#assassination

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spice surge
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Unacceptable

quiet oriole
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!up

distant fog
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For full keys though really watch casual

hexed harbor
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i remember someone from dragonflight called chirpytv or something but i havnt been able to find him anywhere

marsh fjord
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Guy is new to this discord slandering my goat

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get him out of here

distant fog
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Youre newer then me

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Bud

marsh fjord
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I can tell

distant fog
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I just left this discoed

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And renoined

placid sparrow
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lol

distant fog
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I veen here since years

marsh fjord
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i've been in here since 2017 bro

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sit

haughty flicker
buoyant herald
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This is some next level glazing I’m not used to this in the rogue chat

placid sparrow
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another d measuring comp

distant fog
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No ban

marsh fjord
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don't slander my goat

distant fog
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Just quit

marsh fjord
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he got banned 100%

buoyant herald
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Is this casuals alt account or something

marsh fjord
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hahaha prob

buoyant herald
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Nah that guy seems chill enough I can’t imagine him doing that

balmy condor
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YOURE BAD

runic hinge
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True

distant fog
marsh fjord
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Number 2 rogue in the world and he is slandering him

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i can't even say nothing

solid canopy
haughty flicker
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?

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makes no sense

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this is who we let run the discord

thorn thorn
balmy condor
distant fog
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Thats peak male physique

haughty flicker
solid canopy
balmy condor
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it's not my fault I live in the third world country of san jose california

distant fog
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When yall think void dh coming out

haughty flicker
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its already out bro

distant fog
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Will be the new fotm and whispyr wont be tortured anymore

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I used to live in california

marsh fjord
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i know why this guy got banned from this discord now

balmy condor
distant fog
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It fucking sucks

solid canopy
brave comet
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what the hell is this room

marsh fjord
haughty flicker
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that is definitely a room

placid sparrow
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its part of having your cloak upgraded

marsh fjord
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it has like 5 rooms to pick from

placid sparrow
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each delve has a random chance to proc that portal and once you finish it the delve is over

humble verge
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including undercoin

unique lake
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arakara and lily are good in st right ? like for raid ? which trinket should we aim for M+ atm ?

distant fog
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Lily

unique lake
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as it's a 1min30 cd and we're a 2 min class, doesn't signet from priory give more stat than lily ?

marsh fjord
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You dont want lily in m+ because thats on fatebound

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and you don't run fatebound in m+

unique lake
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yeah i thought that too

runic hinge
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Just run whatever you can get

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It’s week 0

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It’ll be ok

vestal geyser
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I feel so much less special now that the cloak has execute for all dps classes

marsh fjord
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Signet is a bit less at the moment since it's hard to get mastery from it because our rating of crit is very close to mastery at the moment

unique lake
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yeah i know atm but basically which item do we want to aim next wednesday ? i'm a bit hesitating between pacemaker, signet ?

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i mean i want to aim for them both but idk if there is better way

distant fog
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@unique lake roll the coin in normal and heroic euns

marsh fjord
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I would just sim yourself is the best answer here

vestal geyser
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Basically whatever you can get your hands on, youre not going to have bis trinkets week 1

distant fog
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And try to get a real trinket

unique lake
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mh yeah and lily arakara for raid i think ?

marsh fjord
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Lily and atenna would be best

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when you get 4p

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because it lines up with fatebound cooldowns

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There is a really good trinket section on wowhead

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i dont know if you have seen it

unique lake
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i did but its for raid

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they put signet B tier and arakara a tier

unique lake
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arakara is not a m+ trinket definitely

marsh fjord
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yeah if we speaking m+ then prob araz trinket

humble verge
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so ure saying

marsh fjord
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  • atenna
humble verge
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lily that is in fact

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better stat wise

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one shouldnt go if ure not running fb

unique lake
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idk bc of the 1min30 cd

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thats why i'm a bit lost with this tirnket

marsh fjord
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Why are you running lily on 1.50 timer when you are darkstalker

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when can get araz trinket

humble verge
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why does it matter

marsh fjord
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and sync it

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because you want stats on your cooldowns/?????

humble verge
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i would still use hoc over signet

humble verge
marsh fjord
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Araz would be way better then lily

humble verge
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do you use a trinket outside your dm?

marsh fjord
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because you are running DS

placid sparrow
marsh fjord
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I mean HOC was really strong.

humble verge
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literally

marsh fjord
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thats why

humble verge
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AND SO IS LILY??????

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hello

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????

marsh fjord
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Lily is quite undertuned at the moment

unique lake
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mh yeah u're right that s quite a good argument xD

humble verge
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lily will 100% sim better

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like

haughty flicker
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lily is definitely not really strong

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its fine for 90s classes

humble verge
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it doesnt matter

haughty flicker
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you wont use it as a 2m

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unless you have literally nothing else

humble verge
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if u go for 90s trinket

marsh fjord
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i rather have 25k mainstat in my 2 minut cooldowns then 9k mastery on 1.50 cooldown

thorn thorn
marsh fjord
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i dont know about you

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You litteraly only would use lily.

humble verge
marsh fjord
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  • if your trinket choices are bad
  • or if you play fatebound in m+ which you dont do
unique lake
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yeah honestly that's why i asked it there, i don't rly think lily's a rly A++ choice when we have signet, pacemaker

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(for m+ at least)

marsh fjord
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I dont know mabye its just me but i rather have 25k main stat on my 2 minut cooldowns. then 9k mastery

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and delay the trinket for 30 seconds

balmy condor
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cause everything here is insane

unique lake
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but thx for your answers guys i see that we're all lost here, also i know that i'll just run whatever i loot ^^ but for next wednesday as we'll start farm hero track item, i'll definitely look for the best trinkets fast

unique lake
nova kelp
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How is your interwebs doing now mr whispyr sir?

balmy condor
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same as before

marsh fjord
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You can also sim yourself with all the trinkets and do like 1 minut fight 5 targets or something

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and see what trinket gives you the most

thorn thorn
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Christian is a traitor

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Unreal

unique lake
thorn thorn
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We thought he was a real one

haughty flicker
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who the what

unique lake
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as lily's a 1min30 trinket while we re a 2' class

balmy condor
thorn thorn
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That was the one who said they would help Whispyr

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But he turned out to be a traitor

marsh fjord
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but then i get flamed LOL

balmy condor
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yeah

thorn thorn
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Or maybe comcast executed him for actually being useful

balmy condor
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I mean that's just trinket balance

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forget m+ trinkets

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the tuning sucks

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you either get a forge

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or you're a noob

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welcome to s3

nova kelp
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How good is the prism for sin? Is it just fuckiing horrible? Or fine?

unique lake
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ffs

balmy condor
nova kelp
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Hmmm

marsh fjord
balmy condor
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except instead of buffing on pull, you buff on the later ones

humble verge
nova kelp
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I kinda just wanna get my hands on an upgrade and not worry about the crowd in line for forge

balmy condor
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yeah

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but what is the alternative

marsh fjord
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i think we will be stuck with HOC for a while honestly

nova kelp
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Yeah hey

balmy condor
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you either play prism/lily on fatebound cause you can't play forge

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or you're playing deathstalker and so you play forge

exotic hearth
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So fatebound is only for ST meaning like 2 fights? Right?

balmy condor
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and if you play deathstalker without forge

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you're just bad and wrong

haughty flicker
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you play fatebound on every fight you can and play sub the rest so you never need forge

marsh fjord
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😄

humble verge
marsh fjord
haughty flicker
nova kelp
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Numbers has a gargantuan Schlong?

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Nice

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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just get it in your first vault i dont see the issue

marsh fjord
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do normal/heroic/lfr every week

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and pray

balmy condor
placid sparrow
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we arguing forge over lilly when youn only have a couple chances a week at forge vs infinit chances at lilly idk why dudes getting flamed for saying lilly is good

balmy condor
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run more splits

thorn thorn
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Understandable

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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i mean you'll want to get lily regardless if you plan on playing fatebound

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so

haughty flicker
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but yeah just get forge

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4head

marsh fjord
haughty flicker
balmy condor
haughty flicker
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so yeah 1:30 works with 1:30 spec

nova kelp
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I can't wait to lose forge to someone who gets it in the vault right after

haughty flicker
humble verge
jaunty sky
marsh fjord
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Thats what i said. if you play fatebound in m+ lily works. but who the fuck plays fatebound in m+

marsh fjord
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yeah zerros and the other guy

marsh fjord
humble verge
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NOOOOOOOOOOO

nova kelp
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Honestly. I'm just going to shoot for a prism in the hopes it can all round me through specs and content well enough to laff at people when forge gets gutted

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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bloodmallet is just the highest simming st profile so yeah get fucked

humble verge
placid sparrow
gritty laurel
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forge getting "gutted" would just put it in line with the other trinkets anyway

marsh fjord
spice surge
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Prism buffs

nova kelp
thorn thorn
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The forge situation is actually reminding me of skardyns for some reason

autumn idol
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who up skarring they dyn

gritty laurel
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the guy called "numbers" messes up a number and pretends it doesn't matter, make it make sense

marsh fjord
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and im not bad with numbers just a typo

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😄

raw marlin
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any sexy rogues know how to fix this?

thorn thorn
marsh fjord
marsh fjord
thorn thorn
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Is what that means

raw marlin
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but i updated my nvida to play bf6 and now this happens lol

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it works fine in rogue voice

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but not in another server but people are literally IN THERE

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TALKING

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lol

thorn thorn
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Tldr its having issue connecting to the server you are in

nova kelp
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My nephew says "nummers"
People have started calling him numbers. Are you my nephew?

raw marlin
nova kelp
main bridge
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working now tho

marsh fjord
stuck moat
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
nova kelp
marsh fjord
thorn thorn
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What on earth

jaunty sky
# balmy condor better than forge?

Yeah, i lose one use since the on pull one does nothing but every following 12 stack prism gives more than the forge on use. Not a lot more to be fair(25056 as 12 stack prism vs 23168 on forge at 662 ilvl which was the first one i found on wowhead), like 8% IF you always use forge on cd and prism at exactly 12 and not 13 stacks. If i ignore the different duration and decaying stats on forge id need 13 uses of prism to make up for that loss of the first pull which should be very possible in an m+ run.
Forge also decays over 30s vs prisms constant buff for 20s, which i dont really know how to value
But also
DentTyping

nova kelp
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Those
Are words

balmy condor
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yeah it's very hard to napkin math

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prism I'm sure is fine

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but it's also most likely giga undervalued in dungeonslice

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cause pulls simply don't last 30 seconds

marsh fjord
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if you had prism in raid context. do you just use it on your second DM?

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and then every DM after?

balmy condor
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yeh

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I mean you can still macro it

nova kelp
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Ew gross. Are you saying this is a "realistic use case" scenario? But I can't Sim that...

balmy condor
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you don't lose anything

jaunty sky
marsh fjord
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Yeah. but it just needs to stack

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and before pull you cant stack

balmy condor
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correct

marsh fjord
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what about a turnip

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beforte a boss

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😄

balmy condor
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I think it resets going into a boss but I'm not sure

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that's what they did for spymasters I'm pretty sure

jaunty sky
marsh fjord
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Yeah

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Where does prism drop again

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what raid boss

jaunty sky
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I'll pug 6th boss heroic and get it first kill ezpz

jaunty sky
nova kelp
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Are we still all execute damage? Or do we not suck off the rip now?

acoustic roost
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Once they see it done in RWF it’ll get fixed. Just like Jastors shenanigans

marsh fjord
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is that frag?

nova kelp
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Coz like

haughty flicker
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fractillus

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yes

nova kelp
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Maybe who cares lol

marsh fjord
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hmm oke

balmy condor
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but even without, blindside + zold exists

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so

nova kelp
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This makes me rigid. Like a prism

jaunty sky
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Yeah hold to 18 stacks for giga DM in execute

marsh fjord
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if my raid leader didnt gave me araz im telling him i deserve prism now

haughty flicker
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im just leaning into sub and telling them to give me tier and prism

jaunty sky
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I dont want forge cause with prism i can play both hero talents AND sub

spice surge
nova kelp
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One day were going to be able to replicate the "EXECUUUTE" video

acoustic roost
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Warriors can’t even replicate the execute video

balmy condor
spice surge
marsh fjord
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if you prism 1:30 and you prism again 3:00 minutes. would it be fully stacked?

thorn thorn
marsh fjord
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or does it take longer

jaunty sky
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18 stacks max

marsh fjord
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so 180 seconds

exotic hearth
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Do we macro CB or manually use?

thorn thorn
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Recently Sael discovered that basically all of the stuff added in TWW doesnt work with breath of eons omegakekW

spice surge
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So 90s later you would have 9 again

marsh fjord
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so if you do it on cooldown. you will never have a fully stacked one

spice surge
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Correct

gritty laurel
jaunty sky
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Prism has 20s cd

marsh fjord
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Yeah but im wondering to use a fully 18 stacked one. or just use it on CD all the time

haughty flicker
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for damage amp and execute probably worth

spice surge
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For sub theres no difference in sims between 2 9 stacks and 1 18 stacks

marsh fjord
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3rd boss has a damage amp around 2 minutes. that's prob worth it to hold.

spice surge
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But ye execute and amps

thorn thorn
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3th

haughty flicker
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thirth

marsh fjord
jaunty sky
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Threeth

jaunty sky
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If not

spice surge
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But ye im coping for prism buffs, thats an indirect sub buff 📈 Prayge

jaunty sky
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U just use pull and 2nd DM

marsh fjord
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yeah that's true actually.

jaunty sky
spice surge
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Fine by me

balmy condor
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what are we counting as third boss

marsh fjord
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the one with the damage amp 😄

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you can go both ways right

balmy condor
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forgeweaver?

jaunty sky
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Dungeon journal counting from top is 3rd

marsh fjord
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the one with the mini adds like the pink ones

jaunty sky
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In my world

balmy condor
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okay that's forgeweaver yeh

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idk

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could be a fatebound fight

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depends how strong the adds are

haughty flicker
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just perma hit boss and tell people to go do the adds somewhere

ruby shoal
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Is now fatebound meta for raids/dungs or only pure ST ?

balmy condor
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the shit part about that is less fatebound getting nerfed by adds, and more that moving your mark around is near impossible

marsh fjord
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I thought soulbinder had a amp phase?

prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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salad bar does

balmy condor
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salad bar does yeah

haughty flicker
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but salad bar has add platforms so idk abotu fatebound

marsh fjord
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@balmy condor at what timing did the amp came in your mythic testing

balmy condor
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salad bar probably ds angle

haughty flicker
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depends on if they matter or not

marsh fjord
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when you did araz

balmy condor
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but like it depends how fast you get out of the intermission

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so idk

marsh fjord
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Telling people to hold so we can parse more kekman

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is it this?

balmy condor
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yes

hexed harbor
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This is technically my first time playing assassin rogue, did the rotation change much from last season?

uneven plume
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are we still running DS old build week 1?

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since no tier set

jaunty sky
uneven plume
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yah sounds about right. But on pure ST

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still DS till 4pc right

lavish swan
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Does assa have a mastery cap or when does it start to fall off?

scarlet crest
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21k i think

balmy condor
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"caps" in general just don't exist and haven't for a decade

uneven plume
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🙂

balmy condor
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fatebound immediately

hot jay
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fatebound owns

uneven plume
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even without 1:30s

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crazy

balmy condor
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yes

uneven plume
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kk

nova kelp
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Sick. I'm just getting myself a prism for a bit till I can get room to cultivate things

balmy condor
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on s2 gear fatebound is like 5-7% better for most people

hot jay
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feels good to play

fallow canopy
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fighting prism with a few people or entering the loot colosseum for forge pepethink

hot jay
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also weird to see mutilate and ambush do damage

jaunty sky
hot jay
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I've never played with vicious venoms

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til now

balmy condor
fallow canopy
hot jay
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not playing rogue except some keys, as an alt

balmy condor
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wait true

hot jay
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lol

balmy condor
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mb

haughty flicker
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imp gar gamer

hot jay
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but now I main swapped

balmy condor
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yeah that makes sense

haughty flicker
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i just think its neat

balmy condor
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I want a talent with the impact of VV but for bleeds

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why can't I have a talent that adds like +130% bleed damg

hot jay
balmy condor
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the same way vv adds +130% generator damage

placid sparrow
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yall losing me , we are running fatebound for raid ? or strictly ST ?

balmy condor
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the more you have adds, the less you should consider fatebound

jaunty sky
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Checked my highest m+ run from last season, 9 deathmarks in 30 minutes wikkd

spice surge
balmy condor
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but it's kinda unclear on some fights

jaunty sky
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Prism stonks are so up

hot jay
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if they fixed it so you didn't lose damage in aoe.... 💋

spice surge
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In keys atleast

jaunty sky
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No im bad

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I told u

balmy condor
jaunty sky
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Was only +15

fallow canopy
haughty flicker
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definitely a prism gamer

balmy condor
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you look at this

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and tell me there's a god

spice surge
hot jay
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m0's felt kinda miserable, there's no target to cleave off of - I was doing good damage anyway but my main target would just melt and then everything else is like equal health at 25%

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just let me poison cleave

haughty flicker
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well thats what bleed build is for

jaunty sky
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Yeah not much better on bleed tbh

hot jay
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yeah I'm playing bleed

haughty flicker
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just put bleeds out and sudden demise giga

hot jay
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but you still got caustic

jaunty sky
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Unless the tank giga pulled

hot jay
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will feel good next week to be able to attack something that doesn't fall over

placid sparrow
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no thank you on prizm , it could give me a billion dps , i ran mage with spymaster season one and nothing feels worse than losing all your stacks right before you roll up into a big pull/ boss

fallow canopy
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DM that shitter low rank blue collar mob on low hp with full bleeds to see a big SD and get that dopamine flowing

brave comet
jaunty sky
haughty flicker
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imagine dying as mage or rogue

hot jay
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I didn't even track my overall tbh, I'm sure there's a details setting to track it even for m0 but I never looked

haughty flicker
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i dont see the issue here

hot jay
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I was competing with the 684 people in the group though

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at 673

placid sparrow
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another dick measuring comp , i forgot everyone in here is rank 1 and never dies

haughty flicker
jaunty sky
spice surge
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We already lose our mark when we die so why not lose prism too

jaunty sky
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Important

spice surge
fallow canopy
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go all in

fallow canopy
hot jay
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details doesn't conveniently total up my dungeon sum in a m0, at least on default settings

spice surge
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(if you had DN up that is)

hot jay
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I'm sure there is some box I can check

haughty flicker
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we lose lucky coin on death too dont we

jaunty sky
haughty flicker
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ive not actually died with it up to test

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so yeah more value in dying

glass raptor
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Do we just play the fatebound build from wowhead?

jaunty sky
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Without tier you might spend 20mins fishing for it

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Its great

placid sparrow
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i will say i feel like a god defensivly on my rogue compared to evoker

spice surge
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Wait until you play the other specs that arent assassination

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Theyre way more tanky than assa for some reason

haughty flicker
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sub gaming

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insanely comfy

jaunty sky
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Outlas is insane survivability

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Perma feint

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Almost

placid sparrow
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i liked sub back in DF season 2 , i havent really touched it since

spice surge
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Just casually taking like 20% less damage passively than assa

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Reasonable numbers

hot jay
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why's that

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trickster or

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sub talent

spice surge
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Both and lots of vers

hot jay
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vers stackers stink

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that shit needs the windwalker treatment

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just gas up haste randomly or something

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like they did for ww

placid sparrow
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probably a dumb question but is there a use for Evasion ooutside of the ocasional times i become a rogue tank , like what all can i actually dodge with evasion

spice surge
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Being bl agnostic is kinda nice

jaunty sky
spice surge
balmy condor
hot jay
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was more thinking about sub, outlaw is outta my ballpark

balmy condor
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otherwise if you're playing deathstalker bait and switch is insane

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and if you're doing m+ you basically need to play elusiveness anyway

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which also makes evasion insane

jaunty sky
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Like u HAVE to have that haste or else haste is your best stat, even over mainstat depending on how far youre away from the needed amount

placid sparrow
hot jay
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I think that is my biggest crime

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I didn't realize how much defenses were shoved into evasion

placid sparrow
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so drop cheat death and trust my healers is what youre saying

hot jay
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after not playing rogue in forever

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I've always just relied on feint and vanish

balmy condor
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vanish as a defensive

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GOOD ONE

hot jay
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err

balmy condor
#

I laughed

hot jay
#

typo

spice surge
#

Theres always some random ass spell thats coded as an attack you can dodge, like for some reason the dot on first boss meadery could be dodged

hot jay
#

cloak

jaunty sky
balmy condor
#

yeh I assumed it was cloak

hot jay
#

idk why I typed vanish but I was thinking cloak

placid sparrow
#

well that too

hot jay
#

when I typed it

#

lol

balmy condor
#

vanish as a defensive is just such a boomer classic thing

#

I love it when they show up with that

placid sparrow
#

i main heal so yeah i do be pressin the defensives on my dps toons lol

haughty flicker
hot jay
#

vanish is just an offensive cd to me

spice surge
haughty flicker
#

like its just too much value for randomly fucking up

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

maybe i just suck tho

jaunty sky
#

Can just ignore one mechanic per 6min

spice surge
balmy condor
#

you know what elmo

#

maybe I will

#

and I'll be happy

jaunty sky
#

Happy bc u dont have to play it in dungeons yeah

spice surge
#

POG 7 in a row POG

jaunty sky
hot jay
#

tails is doing really dumb damage, even for my catch-up character

#

when I tried it at the dummy

haughty flicker
#

questing as fatebound

#

top damage is tails followed by cloak

balmy condor
#

sipping a marg on the sand

#

feet up sun on my face

#

living life

#

sub players could never understand the bliss

#

keep malding over bugs small man

hot jay
#

time to go fight the world boss

#

15 minutes of combat

#

or so people tell me

haughty flicker
#

it do be long as fuck

#

because people dont know what to do

#

stand on glowing rifts, press extra action button, go down into phase walking and beat his ass during damage amp

jaunty sky
brave comet
hot jay
#

oh nice

nova kelp
#

What's going on here. Eleem and whispyr doing battle?
Watch out eleem he'll lag switch on you

haughty flicker
#

elmo vs whippy GlorpDespair

balmy condor
nova kelp
#

Garfield vs glorp

haughty flicker
hot jay
#

particle density has a "disabled" setting now? MONKA

#

how long has that been there

balmy condor
#

all expac I think

#

they updated the setting this patch

hot jay
#

I might have to try that if I get weird raid performance in heroic week (well, heroic week for my guild anyway hah)

balmy condor
#

but idk exactly what they did

nova kelp
#

Disabling partical density seems like an X-Men mutant power

hot jay
#

cuz my performance with 25+ people in the raid generally stinks

#

compared to the hard locked 20 mythic

balmy condor
nova kelp
#

We can call him the flacidiser

balmy condor
#

oh wait

#

particle density

haughty flicker
#

wasnt there supposed to be something about disabling allied spells

balmy condor
#

I thought spell density

hot jay
#

ah

#

my spell density is on essential I think

balmy condor
#

particle I have on ultra cause you need it to see shit

#

yeah they changed something with the spell density thing

nova kelp
#

You don't want to see the 6837376 lasers firing over your head from the ranged?

#

And the 16 overlapping death and decays?

#

While trying to avoid whatever the fuck is going on with mythic Gally right now?

haughty flicker
#

that bug is so insanely funny

jaunty sky
#

Why is there no race for true world first gally actually

#

Unnerfed

ocean quiver
haughty flicker
#

gally first boss ever where race to world last is harder than race to world first

vestal geyser
#

Isn't there a setting you can turn off that literally disables some mechanics from being seen? I can't remember what its called and I'm not at my pc atm

nova kelp
#

If liquid weren't cowards they give the new Gally a go

vestal geyser
#

Every raid I've ever been in is like make sure this shit is turned on

#

Or you can't see the shit on the ground that will hit you

haughty flicker
#

particle density can make it very hard to see some mechanics if turned down yeah

vestal geyser
haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

you always need projected textures, particle density and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

vestal geyser
#

Projected textures

haughty flicker
#

projected textures ye

#

thats another one

vestal geyser
#

Is the one I was thinking of

balmy condor
#

some other thing

nova kelp
#

I turned up my particle density so much I got burned irl playing my mage

balmy condor
#

idk you can just copy quazii's settings

ocean quiver
#

wow is just a shit game ngl

balmy condor
#

idk I get like 250 fps in dorn

vestal geyser
#

Projected textures I think is natty off

balmy condor
#

and like 90 in raid

#

it's not bad

vestal geyser
#

Which is weird

ocean quiver
ocean quiver
#

that's my fps on gally and I got an i9-14900kf

#

should be more than enough to not get 20fps drop

vestal geyser
#

I have 7800xt + 7800x3d and get around 90 in dorn

#

But I have settings turned up

balmy condor
ocean quiver
balmy condor
ocean quiver
#

every reload

balmy condor
#

and a 3080ti

jaunty sky
balmy condor
jaunty sky
#

And keep pressi g jt

balmy condor
#

should figure that out

ocean quiver
#

maybe actually

jaunty sky
#

OR have it in platee

umbral sierra
#

what would the fastest t8 delve be to clear as assa?

haughty flicker
#

theres plater settings that auto turn on friendly nameplates in certain conditions

#

like entering raid etc

#

probably whats fucking with it

balmy condor
#

it's the explorer league thing

ocean quiver
#

shift v*

#

which I use control v for a keybind so I must be fat fingering it

umbral sierra
balmy condor
jaunty sky
#

@ocean quiver check plater as well just to be safe

dire mist
#

Hey, for the bleed build on dungeon bosses in ST, do I still try to staying above 50% energy? Guide ofc says so, but I feel like I have very little above-50% uptime and find myself just refreshing dots, envenoming with Darkest Night etc for the most part. Is that right?

balmy condor
#

butter

balmy condor
ocean quiver
balmy condor
#

the guide specifically points out that you only want to be above 50% with literally nothing else going on

#

it should be like MAYBE 15% of the time

hot jay
#

I am on the most boomed pc possible lol so whatever they did with spell density this patch might help me

#

my 20 man performance was amicable at least

#

but "heroic week" sucks balls

#

with 30 people

umbral sierra
balmy condor
#

nah I'm playing bleed

#

Idc to min-max delves

#

that's cringe

umbral sierra
#

its my 2nd toon im doing vault cap for lol

haughty flicker
#

wtf

#

the wowhead guide told me to go fatebound though

balmy condor
#

fungal today you can go ST

#

it's 2 mini bosses and the end boss

#

rest is stealthed

hot jay
#

guess I will max all my delves today

haughty flicker
#

ye fungal is normally a good one

ocean quiver
#

im still trying to figure out how to upgrade my cloak lmao

haughty flicker
#

even if you get one of the slower ones you just group everything and pull it onto a spore to insta kill

balmy condor
prime sparrow
#

Is there an addon/wa channel I'm missing. Full rerolling rogue and wanted to see what the best way to track bleeds and stuff is

balmy condor
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
sterile swallow
#

Even under geared fungle t8 is the easiest t8 delve.

prime sparrow
#

Thanks whispyr

ocean quiver
#

what the helly

#

any tier or?

balmy condor
#

you get your 3 threads a week

#

and that's it

sterile swallow
#

Seen some claim it had to be t7. But got mine on day one from t4/5/6 when releveling them.

marsh fjord
frosty lake
#

dont use it, nothing drops

hot jay
#

you technically can yeah.....but you shouldn't lmao

sterile swallow
ocean quiver
#

sweet ty

nova kelp
#

So I dida world tour. And got a pacemaker. A sacbrood. A signet. And a lily.

Am I fucked for the rest of the season?

hot jay
#

it's not quite as innocent as the undermine rep exploit either (you simply had to log on an alt you hadn't played in s2 or something? and it juiced your rep)

balmy condor
hot jay
#

it will probably be deemed intentional

spice surge
cunning scaffold
#

It’s pretty easy to overlevel your cloak by accident

ocean quiver
#

can't fish anymore

nova kelp
#

Oh shit

cunning scaffold
#

Hell, just do the campaign again on an alt

nova kelp
#

I want a monster

sterile swallow
marsh fjord
balmy condor
marsh fjord
#

i grinded 2k coins for it

ocean quiver
#

clicked ut once and cant do nothing now

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

you can get threads from literally everywhere

nova kelp
#

Literally. There's some in the vending machine downstairs in my office

distant fog
#

Easiest to do delves

#

Just walk through a 4 and afk i their cheeks

cunning scaffold
#

I did 8 m0s last night and didn’t see any threads yet

#

I wonder how many dozen are needed

marsh fjord
#

I got 3 threads from a daily qeust

#

was in the first part of the new zone

hot jay
#

why does leech suck so much, I think I swapped to leech enchants for the memes a few weeks ago (not using them now) to see how much I could get and I think I was at 9%

#

but it feels like it doesn't do shit

balmy condor
cunning scaffold
#

4/6 right now

#

Got a thread from some warrant quest

balmy condor
distant fog
#

You did 8 m0s and youre 4/6 for loot lock ?

cunning scaffold
#

4/6 on the thread count for the week

distant fog
#

Oh makes sense now

#

Go do 2 delves

limpid trench
#

Why is Caustic Spatter the top damage source in the Bleed build right now?

distant fog
#

This tank yelled at me cause i told him he lost aggro

umbral sierra
#

assume ur also having to kill the ethereal people by the 5th challenge

distant fog
#

@limpid trench shouldnt it be crimson tempest for top dps

#

Crimson garrote ect

balmy condor
cunning scaffold
#

Sudden demise is my top dps, but I SD max like crazy in those low keys/dungeons

balmy condor
#

also the deathstalker tier goes stupid strong

#

so that helps

spice surge
#

Singular focus seems balanced when its at like 13%

hot jay
#

yeah looking forward to the deathstalker tier for m+

balmy condor
#

96% darkest night, 48% lingering darkness

distant fog
#

Does anyone have a damage breakdown for a 19 key

balmy condor
#

160% AP damage clear the witnesses

distant fog
#

From ptr

#

Wanna see what build breakdown is

limpid trench
#

@distant fogTheoretically it should be crimson tempest, but I played it a few times and it was always Caustic Spatter. I am very surprised.

distant fog
#

For kingsbane ?

#

Or bleed blesd

balmy condor
#

I don't think that's true though

distant fog
#

Cause my top is crimson

#

Then garrote

limpid trench
balmy condor
#

this is pretty normal

#

they're kinda close

distant fog
#

Wait with current set ?

balmy condor
#

with 4 set

distant fog
#

I have no set

#

So maybe thats why caustic sucks for me

balmy condor
#

reasonable

distant fog
#

Well new tier is 9% for bleed aoe so

#

We back baby

hot jay
#

what are the juiced delve curios this season? not that it is super important or anything

#

just curious if anyone has identified some juicers among them

umbral sierra
#

dunno my bran just hit 32

brave comet
marsh fjord
#

@balmy condor did i do this sim wrong or is this sim saying i would get 40% dps increase if i went 2/2?

umbral sierra
weak plover
#

32 is pretty high NGL

balmy condor
marsh fjord
vestal geyser
#

Yeah was gonna say lol

marsh fjord
#

lol was weird

umbral sierra
vestal geyser
#

s3 max level is also 80

#

😮

brave comet
#

i dont think so

weak plover
#

I've done like 2 delves per season

vestal geyser
#

You should definitely do the delves at the beginning of the season at least

#

If you're trying to max your gear

distant fog
#

do delves today and then ignore for rest of the season

brave comet
#

ye basically try to max out the chance at getting a tier item

weak plover
#

By the time you get gear from them you don't need too..

distant fog
#

well gearing it does matter

#

for things like tier

vestal geyser
#

It takes like 5 minutes

distant fog
#

by the time is like

#

5 weeks from now

vestal geyser
#

Yeah I dont know what rock youre living under but delve gear is pretty relevant

brave comet
#

its mostly for the vault

distant fog
#

its all for the vault

weak plover
#

For maybe two weeks.

brave comet
#

a chance at getting a tier piece is invaluable

marsh fjord
#

only way of doing delves 5 weeks in is if there was a mega OP trinket from it

#

otherwise you just do it for vault

vestal geyser
#

Its really important for easy ilvl boost at the beginning of the season

#

You get hero gear from the maps

distant fog
#

ilvl boost eh

marsh fjord
distant fog
#

not worth

marsh fjord
#

2/2 is 10.8% DPS increase

distant fog
#

we will be full 701 by end of next week so

brave comet
#

huge

weak plover
#

Oh yes. The sacred once a week nap that will give you the one bro slot you already have 😂

#

So good

vestal geyser
ocean quiver
#

How long is shutdown anyone know?

vestal geyser
#

There's literally no better use of your time

distant fog
#

yea and @vestal geyser

brave comet
#

this hush dude has brain cancer

vestal geyser
#

And its guaranteed gear

distant fog
#

we will be 701

#

the only relevant gear from delves will be the vault

vestal geyser
#

Are you blind like I said it drops hero

distant fog
#

and we will be 701

vestal geyser
#

Its fast and easy

distant fog
#

by end of next week

weak plover
#

Just get tier from raid/m+ 4head

distant fog
#

tier doesnt drop off m+ except vaults

#

mb ill be like 699 ilvl cause im wearing some dog shit normal piece for tier set

vestal geyser
#

If you want to spend 40 hours farming gear from m+ then be my guest

weak plover
#

Vault... Bingo

distant fog
#

well 40 hours farming gear and increasing m+ score

vestal geyser
#

Id rather get 4 easy pieces in 20 minutes

brave comet
#

i'm not sure why youre falling for this stupid ragebait this hard rheiad

#

hush is "trolling"

distant fog
#

40 hours next week m+ grind is gonna be a slough but worf it

#

then we clear aotc week 1 and we gucci

brave comet
#

he's probably giggling in his mom's basement cause he got kicked out from his above ground residence by his mom

vestal geyser
distant fog
#

full heroic vault

brave comet
#

cause his laughter is grating

vestal geyser
#

And putting down bozos makes me feel better

weak plover
#

Sorry you're so unlucky that you have to do 14 delves

vestal geyser
#

Lol I dont i do 4

#

And get guaranteed gear

#

Literally the easiest gear you can get in the game

#

That then makes m+ easier

distant fog
#

meh it takes like 15 minutes for a key early then 30 later on

#

not bad

jaunty sky
#

I got t11 delves with extra boss for map done in sub 10mins, idk if m+ can beat 30 gilded crests plus one hero track item in 30mins

blazing parcel
#

Eu is down guys ?!

vestal geyser
nova kelp
#

Are we comparing collecting crests from delves vs m+ or something?

brave comet
#

No

haughty flicker
#

compare dn

drifting cloud
#

hi whats dn

haughty flicker
brave comet
#

The comparison doesnt need to be made to talk about how efficient running a t11 a week for crests

#

Not that you need to, since you cap out instantly week 1

#

Doing your vault dungeons

nova kelp
#

I get to talk shit with my guildies while doing m+ so I wouldn't compare them anyway

#

Who the fuck is coming with me to a delve

#

Lol

brave comet
#

Thats why you get yourself a gf that plays wow

nova kelp
#

My gf plays

#

But she's a HIGH END world quester

#

Big ball shit

gleaming geyser
#

world quester & delver gf gang

nova kelp
#

Its weird. She's terrified of m+ but she just casually rocks around world questing in PvP mode fucking everyone's shit up

jaunty sky
#

War mode questing is fun

nova kelp
#

She's unironically so much better than me at PvP but she will literally die running out of breath to promise that's not true

sweet inlet
#

On Fuu's SIM spreadsheet the dungeon slice Ass trinket Sims includes a horrific vision enchant but the single target doesn't. For M+ do the enchants actually still work?

balmy condor
#

they're disabled in sims

#

he just has it on the helm

#

for idk

#

fun I guess

sweet inlet
#

I see, so they are not useable in-game then?

jaunty sky
#

Nah disabled now

sweet inlet
#

Okay thank you

errant swallow
#

Should we update trinkets this week to 691?

buoyant herald
#

Depends what your biggest upgrades are

distant fog
#

dude i just got stuck in a dc loop

#

lol

distant fog
#

how do i talk to a gm again

errant swallow
buoyant herald
#

Time Machine

buoyant herald
nova kelp
buoyant herald
#

Priory not a bad option for now I think

balmy condor
buoyant herald
#

I upgraded my sacbrood

distant fog
#

lol

buoyant herald
errant swallow
distant fog
#

nice

buoyant herald
#

Jeez this guy

#

Yeah I’d probably do priory and pacemaker for now. Ideally you have a weapon as well

#

Then whatever else floats your boat. Not much point upgrading lily since you won’t use it until tier right

errant swallow
#

This is fucking terrible

#

I won't get anything else ever again

fringe spear
#

I also intend to not anything ever

errant swallow
#

lmao, mb

nova kelp
#

It would be amazing to never anything

#

Goals

round coyote
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
distant fog
#

Do we have cooldown timers for bosses yet

#

Especially first and second boss

vocal widget
#

will fatebound see play before s3 set?

distant fog
#

For some raids ye prob

sick aspen
#

what ilvl ring replaces circes? like guide says 710 to replace disc belt

drifting cloud
#

690

jaunty sky
drifting cloud
#

but can be even lower

vestal geyser
balmy condor
#

depends on your stats

#

but pisslow WQ shit should be replacing it

sick aspen
# balmy condor like 680

thanks, tried simming and results showed it higher but it didn't replace it in gear part so wasn't sure what that meant

hot jay
#

the real question is when we can replace the gally ring MONKA

#

this thing is like a bonus trinket

uneven plume
#

Do we just macro CB to KB

#

and forget about it?

nova kelp
#

Yep

uneven plume
#

kk

#

any1 got the macro for the CB KB?

#

i know it sounds simple

#

but icon and timer is weird imo

proud dust
#

depends what you want the timer to be

uneven plume
#

KB prob right

#

atm

#

for now

#

since its 1min still

proud dust
#

then you could just do
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
I imagine at least

misty holly
#

omg you guys, Bellular just said that rogues are going extinct in todays class changes video 🙁

nova kelp
#

They are

#

They have been for ages

jaunty sky
#

I shitpost with the same 10 ppl every day

nova kelp
#

There's like 13 of us total in the game

#

2 of us are sub

#

3 are outlaw

uneven plume
#

yuppp

#

thank you

fathom flax
#

i used the search function and answered my own question

distant fog
#

@misty holly this is good

#

Stonks going up

#

Market theory

misty holly
#

buy the dip?

distant fog
#

The less of us rhe more we can get into good guilds and runs

jaunty sky
viscid marsh
#

It's week 0 but for those doing mythic0, are we still feeling bleed build?

jaunty sky
#

Everything falls over immediately

#

So kinda eh

polar rampart
#

just play outlaw frfr

nova kelp
#

That's part of what makes the bleed build good

#

That just makes SD go crazy

distant fog
#

The demise is nice

#

Cause everything falls over

jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

How. They get literally one shot?

jaunty sky
#

I did have frost and ele in my group

nova kelp
#

It takes like 3 gcds

jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

Which is in the time it takes for them to get 2 skills out

jaunty sky
#

Crimson tempest, garrote, FoK, rupture again

nova kelp
#

If they're literally 1 shotting mobs sure. But then like it doesn't matter what you play

#

But bleed build will get crazier when things die fast

jaunty sky
#

Was the worst in the new dungeon tbh

nova kelp
#

I was finishing ultra chill world tour at like 10 mil overall lol

latent wedge
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
distant fog
#

13 seconds for pure ramp no?

#

Ive been in pugs so everyone is just casual

#

So they stay alive a while

jaunty sky
haughty flicker
#

or everything blew up instantly and he got giga sudden demise value

nova kelp
#

That

#

Its just bleed doing bleed things

#

It would LOOK like I wasn't doing well and then suddenly mobs would pop like zits and the meter would flip

distant lodge
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

thorn thorn
#

@fallow canopy xla

halcyon falcon
#

!deathmark

main bridge
#

what's that supposed to do

balmy condor
#

answer his question I guess

main bridge
#

all right Moroes read their mind and answer it

nova kelp
#

How deathmark?

halcyon falcon
#

I was trying to find the plater mod that tracks deathmark and I forgot the command

main bridge
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
halcyon falcon
#

Just the standalone plater mod. I’ve seen it here before.

balmy condor
#

we don't have a command for whatever that mod is

halcyon falcon
#

That became obvious <3. If anyone has it, I’d be grateful

#

It’s also in the subtlety channel under wa

nova kelp
#

Oh. That makes sense for sub because they don't have a bunch of other debuffs to track and just wanna make sure they're stabbing the one thing that has it

#

For us we have that its just along side a bunch of other visuals

#

Us being sin

thorny swift
#

any1 got kyveza ?? already?

thorn thorn