assassination

[red schooner]

Congrats!

[haughty flicker]

doesnt count since it wasnt on rogue but grats

[marsh fjord]

Go to your talents and hover over caustic spatter it will makes sense why you use deadly

[royal lantern]

honeslty

sounds like as if after 4 weeks you basically go fulltime cringebound

cus most adds gonna start explode before you do meaningfull dmg i gues

aka what happend this tier

[hallow glade]

They didn’t fix kingsbane did they?

[balmy condor]

not afaik

but who has tier set on live

[marsh fjord]

Me

[thick juniper]

hello, for bleed, is iron wire not worth it? what should i give up if i want it?

[normal mist]

depends

its a dps loss for a chance to save your group from wipping

[wind totem]

Any PTR gamers can tell me if there are any fights where Fatebound's 90sec cd is preferred over deathstalker's 2min?

[normal mist]

you get rid of 2nd shiv for it

ST fights

[thick juniper]

awesome, thank you!

[wind totem]

Are there any pure ST fights?

I

[split veldt]

so circe is dogass now right?

[normal mist]

Whispyr said we might see fatebound in 5/6 fights

[wind totem]

I've seen nothing of the new raid cuz im lazy like that

[normal mist]

depends if adds die really fast or not

[marsh fjord]

was dog already when you had a mythic ring

[royal lantern]

? you allready replaced it this patch lol

[wind totem]

I see so gotta get used to it for raid week.

Thanks

[waxen oyster]

i feel only boss that had terrible spatter value for undermine late on farm

was rik

[wind totem]

I mean Sprocket had 0.

[gray raven]

stealth animations are all jacked

[waxen oyster]

yeah the one st boss of the tier

[wind totem]

My pedantic ass couldn't resist it. Sorry.

[waxen oyster]

yeah usually st bosses

arent relevant tbf

[normal mist]

NA?

[waxen oyster]

damage checks at best

[gray raven]

yeah - it keeps me in the crouch when out of stealth

[waxen oyster]

sprocket is a rare case

[normal mist]

Good luck beta tester! 🫡

[waxen oyster]

unemployed na people be like

[normal mist]

Moroes is down

[royal lantern]

??

good spatter dmg when the paladin and priest get MC once again

[zenith prairie]

are there no bountiful delves out today?

[marsh fjord]

you dont even want to do them anyway

you want stack keys

but no they are not out

[waxen oyster]

who has

ret paladins

on the real

[zenith prairie]

Oh do you stack keys til next week

[marsh fjord]

yes

[waxen oyster]

No bountiful ye

[fallow canopy]

Here we go again

[waxen oyster]

8 gives higher upgraded

[normal mist]

deleted really quick

bang bang

[marsh fjord]

Not to sure

if was allowed

mb

[waxen oyster]

Well

free vacation for me

if it does

[normal mist]

It's an exploit if it works

so we dont do that here

[marsh fjord]

my bad flux

[normal mist]

(it wasn't me)

[royal lantern]

we have 2

[marsh fjord]

who ever deleted it

my bad

😄

[normal mist]

No worries

we love you

[main bridge]

Exploit early exploit often

[fallow canopy]

Too late bud they are coming for you

[waxen oyster]

am i diabolical

if i try to sabotage ret trials

whenever i can

[marsh fjord]

no they deserve it

[royal lantern]

1 of our rets is the 0,1% of ret players that actually has a brain and plays good

[waxen oyster]

I misdirected the devoker trial

[royal lantern]

like

[waxen oyster]

on every gally add set

[royal lantern]

the guy is actually good lol

during the first stix kill, we had a ball set where both boomkins got a ball

RL calls out "both boomkins on balls, need heavy bomb dmg"

[waxen oyster]

doesnt ret like lose 0

for hitting another target

[marsh fjord]

Now people are dming me about it

oh no

[raw marlin]

you love the attention

[royal lantern]

and that guy pops wings, runs out and kills the far away bombs almost fully solo

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[waxen oyster]

dont you just press wake

and it gives you wings

idr what ret ability converts into hammer of light for ret

[haughty flicker]

wake

[royal lantern]

ye wake gives wings

[waxen oyster]

idk ret doesnt even lose damage hitting something else

not like judgement is a long cd

[rustic thunder]

im a bit confused about sending dry shivs with arterial precision talented: should I just send one so that I have two charges ready for the next deathmark or use it on cd and be left with just one shiv for the window? rn i send two shivs in first deathmark and then it's sometimes kinda random

[shy creek]

@balmy condor might wanna update title to season 3 11.2

[balmy condor]

true

[shy creek]

Is fatebound still only good in pure st

Or is it viable in some amount of cleave

[hoary remnant]

Is kingsbane bug fixed ?

[marsh fjord]

Whispyr can we have a fatebound command please.

and a kb bug fix command 😄

[vast pond]

We won't really know until we have tier I think

[balmy condor]

what does that even mean

[raw marlin]

!kbbugfixedcommand

[marsh fjord]

people keep asking about FB bug

[balmy condor]

okay?

[raw marlin]

Im asking about mouse bug, is mouse bug fixed?

[balmy condor]

it's not even relevant until tier

[marsh fjord]

so mabye with fast !kb we can tell them that it's not relevant 😄

[royal lantern]

Rat>Mouse

[balmy condor]

sure

[normal mist]

i like the way you think

[marsh fjord]

I like the way you exist in my life

[deft shard]

just response yes or no

[normal mist]

DAMN take me to dinner first or something

[marsh fjord]

omw

[normal mist]

For anyone interested to watch bug testers work!!!

[raw marlin]

ok i changed port, no idea how to actually test it without bricking someones key lol

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

!fb

[prisma monolith]

Only changes for fatebound are macroing cold blood to kingsbane and vanishing during the cold blood buff during deathmark in order to double flip coins. Otherwise regular rotation, finishers on 5+

Min-maxes currently only include using shiv before deathmark with the Fatebound 2 piece equipped in order to buff the coins. The 4 piece is worth using, and you will want an 1:30 trinket (lily or prism) to buff your deathmark windows accordingly.

[balmy condor]

!kb

[prisma monolith]

The Kingsbane Bug associated with the Fatebound 2 Set Bonus was not fixed on PTR. We have no way of knowing if it is fixed on live servers, as tier is not available until next week. Fatebound sims reflect the bug and are still much stronger.

[balmy condor]

merry christmas

back to questing

[vestal wren]

[haughty flicker]

[marsh fjord]

oh no fuu is typing

[pliant remnant]

merry chrysler

[vestal wren]

I did this graph earlier for patchwork, its not very meaningful,
but its interesting to see how the specs spread their stats.

[marsh fjord]

Interesting

[raw marlin]

graphs are always fun to look at though

[proven willow]

wym key its s3

oh eu i see

cant u just hit a dummy or somethin

[pliant remnant]

NA acknowledging that other continents exist

bless

[shy creek]

@balmy condor
Idk if this is just how wowhead works

But the assa rogue tier set reads as the outlaw one

it just reads as both ig

idk

[raw marlin]

im not even in the game but yeah, i can hit a dummy.. but i think @marsh fjord is not free

[humble verge]

we are now 2,5m ritch, maybe ill finally live off wowsub from wowtokens

[marsh fjord]

WTF

[balmy condor]

yep, that's just how it works

the tooltips that are embedded into the items include the bonuses from both specs

[raw marlin]

youre my dummy though

[serene mason]

when and how can i start to farm the pvp trinket?

[raw marlin]

ask in pvp? I have 0 idea

[warm vortex]

Whispyr what are you going to give me for Christmas

[serene mason]

aye next week... ty

[shy creek]

Is fatebound still good in ST without tier set, or is it tier set specific that makes fatebound better

[balmy condor]

it is, yes

also sims are up

so

[hoary remnant]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bronze heath]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[raw marlin]

np glad i could help

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[raw marlin]

fuufuu

y no sims for fatebound sin

I know sims are all bollox but sin always sims less right? due to the nature of the HP of the sim targets?

because otherwise its like 1.4mil behind those sub trickster sims lol

[umbral sigil]

some may call that a spoiler so i removed

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/mikonay-gif-8204616735090447433

[mental trout]

Any good YouTube videos for sim guide? Thag covers every thing in one video? Looks dry, or like I have to watch multiple and piece together what’s current

[normal mist]

Do you know anything about the spec?

oh sim guide not sin guide

sec

[umbral sigil]

well wait

[normal mist]

wait

[umbral sigil]

did they mean sin or sim

lmao

[normal mist]

lmaaao

[mental trout]

Lmao

[worldly nebula]

Is helm enchant still from visions? I thought that was gone or reset?

[brave stump]

Assassimation

[umbral sigil]

WHISPYR

I played maplestory today

[mental trout]

I meant sin, yea. I haven’t played sin in a few years. Just wanted some thing to listen to while driving

[umbral sigil]

its your fault

[raw marlin]

shindigs video prob

[normal mist]

hmmm you have 2 youtubers that cover stuff, whispyr and shindigg

[raw marlin]

is 40 mins long and over the top

but it covers everything

from last season

[mental trout]

That goes over M+ rotation

[raw marlin]

yh

[umbral sigil]

bleeds go brrrrrrrr

there

[balmy condor]

did you have fun

[umbral sigil]

covered it

[mental trout]

Yea I’ll do a deep dive on whispyr videos when I have the time

[umbral sigil]

i made an explorer cause i didnt know what to make and im going for nightlord

[brave stump]

Pop a Monster for the immersion

[umbral sigil]

have 8 different canned drinks for immersion*

sorry im talkin shit let me stop

[balmy condor]

on kronos?

[umbral sigil]

im still mad at work

[umbral sigil]

on kronos actually

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna make a s3 guide some time this week covering everything

[balmy condor]

nice, if you need help lmk

there's also a bunch of pins in #1372478130568171531

[umbral sigil]

i skimmed but got distracted and then servers came up 3 hours early lmfao

[brave stump]

Holy content back to back

[mental trout]

That would be huge, I’m coming from outlaw for a few seasons. So I need every thing lol

[brave stump]

Cant wait for the "i press those Buttons they do good damage press it too or dont i dont give a fuck because you are a degenerate if not"

I love these little sub messages from whispyr

[warm vortex]

Whispyr
If you had to theoretically marry one world of Warcraft char who would it be

[balmy condor]

honestly xal'atath is up there as an option

my gf of 10 years is mexican

I'm used to the sass

[brave stump]

Wait

[tropic jewel]

10 years ?

Married/ Kids ?

[balmy condor]

neither, I just turned 26

[harsh anchor]

This discord is enough to ward off the desire for kids

[umbral sigil]

all my kids are playing healers

[warm vortex]

The toes are temtping yea

But idk

I feel like khadgar would be chill

[tropic jewel]

Good time to start thinking about Kids mate… my wife and me Are now together for 14 years and wie have a 2 year old son … when he turns 3 in december he will be a big Brother

[balmy condor]

I mean

given the world currently

if you asked me to have a kid or kms

I'm gonna kms

[warm vortex]

Not reallt for me haha

[jaunty sky]

Also ignoring all that, kids are expensive as fuck and we're not really swimming in money

Like on average

[proven willow]

kids are pretty big tax writeoffs

[bronze pike]

kids is a huge commitment that i dont think the majority of people who have kids are ready for

but granted no way to actually be ready for kids

i love my new lil cousin to death, would die and kill for her

[spice spire]

Think it’s more of a statement of the world that we’rein

[bronze pike]

but god

[spice spire]

It’s a scary world for kids

[bronze pike]

im getting snipped as soon as possible

and like im worried

about the struggles she'll face in the future

for a new and scary world that even im not all that familiar to right now

[proven willow]

why are we making kids sound like quantam anomaly's

not hard to have kids xd

[bronze pike]

not hard to have em

just

[jaunty sky]

Its hard to raise em man

[proven willow]

or maintain or take care of them

[bronze pike]

but are you doing it right?

[limber swallow]

Nobody knows if they’re doing it right

[bronze pike]

yep

the whole thing is just scary

[brave stump]

Just have pets

[limber swallow]

We’re all just freaking idiots fumbling in the dark hoping they don’t break

[bronze pike]

and how can you take care of a child in a world thats warping into a fucked up clown world version of itself

[limber swallow]

My kid is 2. First thing he said to me this morning: “daddy, go to work!”

[bronze pike]

with people in power being bad people who abuse children

[marsh fjord]

What did you say. oke im gonna vanish

[brave stump]

Already a slave of capitalism

[bronze pike]

[umbral sigil]

im gonna doordash burger king and fart all night ill cya guys later

[bronze pike]

gn

[wicked zodiac]

guys i can change on next week the gem of the cloak?

[normal mist]

isnt it a normal gem?

you should be able to swap whenever you want ig

[wicked zodiac]

no

[limber swallow]

No good answer to that one. Just hug the kid and do the best to keep him tolerating your shit.. My kid is super funny though

[balmy condor]

you can just swap the gem

[wicked zodiac]

is the gem you can get on the quest

[balmy condor]

they're crafted

you can swap

[wicked zodiac]

oh

ty

[tight ginkgo]

you're the gem i'll never swap

[wicked zodiac]

i can buy on action house?

[normal mist]

either that or crafting orders

since ive no idea what gems those are

[wicked zodiac]

ty

[fallow canopy]

I believe tailors craft them

I assume the recipe is from doing something in the new zones so maybe not much people can craft them rn but I'm speculating

[wicked zodiac]

oh ok

[vast pond]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tender dagger]

Is season 3 raid Fatebound or Deathstalker

[balmy condor]

both

[tender dagger]

Ok ty

I’m guessing FB when it’s pure st fight

[normal mist]

As it should

for more info check whispyrs latest youtube video

[raw marlin]

lol housing comes early with pre-orders

[runic hinge]

Any pre-order

[raw marlin]

obv the most expensive one lol

[glad ferry]

The Talent copy links don't seem to copy the same talents as the ones indicated on WoWHead

Am I dumb?

[normal mist]

what are you trying to copy?

[balmy condor]

could be

which ones are broken

[glad ferry]

Import has 2/"2 Vicious Venoms and 0/1 improved garrote

[balmy condor]

yes

sounds correct so far

[glad ferry]

but the link says 1/2 VV and 1/1 Improved garrote

[balmy condor]

weird

for fatebound raid, yeah?

[glad ferry]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/fatebound/DANFVVFBRRUVZiBRCVAMVURUUFYVURoVBUEFVVUBU

Yes

[balmy condor]

okay I'll get it fixed

sometimes the macros are a bit dumb

and don't update properly

[glad ferry]

So the copied one is the correst one yes?

[balmy condor]

2/2vv is correct

[plush isle]

When i look at the new pins

[vale shore]

anyone else get stuck in stealth animation after breaking stealth? or is it just me?

[balmy condor]

jfc

[balmy condor]

yeh

[normal mist]

yes

[vale shore]

our new rogue walk makes us the most-unique class in the game!

[glad ferry]

and is this correst if we're not playing MA?

[balmy condor]

yes

[bronze pike]

Explain

[vale shore]

we get to walk around in our stealth animation without being stealthed

[bronze pike]

Pog

[glad ferry]

I'm gonna sound very stupid here probably but why vanish if no MA? Is that a fatebound thing I havent read

[marsh fjord]

its fake

[balmy condor]

yes

[raw marlin]

dont let the peasants have houses

[marsh fjord]

there is litteraly a DF picture in it

[balmy condor]

double jeopardy

[marsh fjord]

😄

[raw marlin]

we should have to pay rent for the houses

in wow tokens only

only real money paid for ones

[glad ferry]

Ah ok I see ty

[woeful galleon]

dam fatebound meta now?

[raw marlin]

no

[woeful galleon]

oh are sims just off rn?

[normal mist]

@balmy condor you gave me the opportunity i took it

https://www.twitch.tv/whispyrttv/clip/HealthyTastyArugulaKeyboardCat-J3yune1Mhjed-3hH

[normal mist]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[normal mist]

Fatebound is a thing for the things it always did right

single target

[warm vortex]

When does patch release for eu

[woeful galleon]

i always simmed higher deathstalker in st

[normal mist]

patch tomorrow morning

[warm vortex]

Ah Kk

[broken lynx]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

maintenance at 4am for like 2-3 hours then u can game

[split veldt]

what gem we putting in our cloak

crit?

[normal mist]

probably whatever

you choose

(what do those gems do? stats?)

[hexed root]

these things

[woeful galleon]

mastery

[normal mist]

its just stats then

[hexed root]

i went with crit oops

[woeful galleon]

https://imgur.com/IZdlsWN

[hexed root]

there's 2 different stat priorities listed QQ

[woeful galleon]

u can buy a different one for 100g

[normal mist]

crit or mastery is good

[spice surge]

It also kinda doesnt matter, both are good

But yes you can just buy another one

[royal lantern]

imagine increasing your crit raiting

like, just crit man?

why waste gear on it

[main bridge]

i just shadowstepped to a mob and i got stuck between some barrels. i couldn't get out until a player walked by and i shadowstepped to them

[hexed root]

huh?

[normal mist]

its a meme

[hexed root]

ah

[haughty flicker]

No memes in my serious competitive discord please

[spice spire]

Look in a mirror pal

And you’ll find a cutie

[haughty flicker]

[runic hinge]

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-cat-funny-wall-hungry-gif-2831864459693607895

Guys i got a new game

[runic hinge]

Sorry I only play world of Warcraft

[zenith tree]

Who's got the chart of upgrade tracks and sources?

ik there's a command for it and I never remember what it is

[rotund kindle]

Anyone else fucked up in the wrapped up mission?

[high sundial]

Hi guys and ty for video/guide Whispyr. For Faithbound we want to Shiv -> Deathmark -> Kingsbane.
Would there be a noticeable penalty for doing the same sequence in Deathstalker?

(For simplifying rotation while swithing between ST raid and m+)

[spice surge]

Well as he explained the reason you do it is because of the coins, as deathstalker you dont have those

[viscid spear]

I've heard this is one of the most chill games ever

[spice surge]

So its not worth

Better to do the old

[high sundial]

Ok thanks! Yeah i totally get it while in Faithbound, I was just wondering if that rotation is viable in Deathstalker also. But I get it, thanks!
Fatebound*

[nova kelp]

you know, imagining the flavour difference, I might actually prefer being faithbound than fatebound, more scary religious zealot and less jingling bag of coins

[balmy condor]

it's not awful, but it is definitely not recommended

deathmark is a dead gcd for shiv on deathstalker

and you would be losing shiv uptime during lingering darkness

which is very good

[high sundial]

right, make sense, thanks!

[devout temple]

Is Assassin a good spec to go for someone wh ohasn't played in a long time?

for 11.2

[balmy condor]

yes

[timber basalt]

whispyr, are you going to update your plater for s3?

[balmy condor]

it's incredibly simple

[balmy condor]

yep

[devout temple]

yeah seems not bad but i gott wrap my head around this death mark stuff

[urban zinc]

is it me or can we not /cancelaura darkest night anymore?

[devout temple]

why ambush stealth weird

[nova kelp]

there's a toy that makes you do the stance/walk/run animation, unsure why youre' being slowed though

[devout temple]

For this you guys make a weak aura?

[nova kelp]

if it's anything to do with stealth you should be going faster

;we're not playing classic here

it seems more like something not stealth related

[balmy condor]

yes

[gritty laurel]

yeah the animation bug to stay in stealth walk is a thing. it's not slowing you though

[neat flame]

why wont my fatebound play flip 11 consecutive heads like whispyrs video? Am i doing it wrong? /s

[marsh fjord]

guys am i going crazsy or is this not doomblade?

[balmy condor]

that is doomblade

[lavish geyser]

is it common not to be able to get caustic splatter on dummies?

[balmy condor]

it is if you're not fulfilling the requirements

have it talented, apply deadly poison, apply rupture, press mutilate

[red wolf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[marsh fjord]

wanted to remove it from my plater profile but for some reason it still shows up after i blacklisten it

[balmy condor]

if you hover it, what's it say

[lavish geyser]

lol. must have misclicked. had instant poison on :/

[marsh fjord]

#showtooltip
/castsequence Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison, Crippling Poison, Atrophic Poison

makes it so you never have the wrong poison on.

change it if you want the other non lethal

[lavish geyser]

clutch

thanks

[dusk fox]

seems like dumb question but how do you unlock wq

[marsh fjord]

it was mutilated flesh LOL

[balmy condor]

yeah that's doomblade

[marsh fjord]

yeah i thought the spell id woulda be doomblade

and not mutilated flesh

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah

[haughty flicker]

Follow campaign

[dusk fox]

im 3/5 of campaign and have to wait till next week to unlock more and did all my reshii wrap stuff

[pulsar ice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[haughty flicker]

Should be unlocked then

Make sure you did the phase diving quests too

[dusk fox]

bugged addon, disabled and it shows.

[hardy rapids]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lavish geyser]

im dead. is this dmg infinite?

the boss wont reset XD

[velvet ridge]

yo why the new mogs suck, i just wanna have leather wraps looking ethereal mother fucker, non of this metal wearing thicc boi bullshit

make leather leather again

[burnt venture]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[harsh harbor]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1402339140078665841/Dark_v2_1.jpg

[crude helm]

max trying to learn assa is content right now

[lethal onyx]

xdd

[balmy condor]

does he have envenom bound

[lethal onyx]

hes learning kinda quick ngl

[true rapids]

its the lad

[normal mist]

1 hour later
Me and GF cleaned a whole house
WTF IT'S 1AM ALREADY?!?!?!

[crude helm]

i think so

[balmy condor]

pog

he's learned it then

that's all you need

[crude helm]

he wanted to play it bc of DoTs

[haughty flicker]

real

[balmy condor]

OH MY GOD

[crude helm]

I tried to tell him hes in for a rude awakening

[haughty flicker]

surely

[balmy condor]

dot spec yes

[haughty flicker]

i love dots

envenom like 40% of my damage

but i love dots

[crude helm]

he took off the envenom bar on his class weakaura, chat tried to tell him not to

[gritty laurel]

is there even a point to tracking envenom uptime after ttk got changed at the start of season 2?

[stark matrix]

sims just borked?

[chilly viper]

Which one should I take? Or doesn't matter

[haughty flicker]

kinda not really yeah

you just press envenom before kingsbane

[normal mist]

are those the stat gems?

[haughty flicker]

dont really need to track it to know that

[chilly viper]

I think so yea

[normal mist]

crit or mastery then

[balmy condor]

you fucked up the import

[chilly viper]

I haven't read much into next patch 😬

[normal mist]

or whatever color you enjoy the most

[balmy condor]

sims work fine

[chilly viper]

Fair

[stark matrix]

just ctrl+c and ctrl+v the /simc

[balmy condor]

have you updated

[stark matrix]

everything is updated

[balmy condor]

worked fine for me

[urban iron]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[stark matrix]

the weird thing is it worked fine earlier

[balmy condor]

I mean did you paste it weird or something

[stark matrix]

don't think so

it brings in everything properly

I don't get the simc error until after attempting to run the sim

[balmy condor]

dunno man

[dense cove]

is mastery fiber the best one to take for now?

[stark matrix]

I'm assuming it's related to specific items

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter probably

[stark matrix]

so I unequip this one and it works

yeah lmao I equip the old dagger and then run the same sim with selecting the new dagger and the other things that I wanted to sim and it works all of a sudden

[marsh fjord]

UI is starting to look good

[mental trout]

what posion do we run for m+

poison*

[runic hinge]

Any that you talent into

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[mental trout]

thanks

[humble verge]

guys

i did it

i finally killed him

it only took me 18

[analog field]

Whispyr in fatebound ST do we garrote ambush once and send rupture regardless CP? or 5 like usual? I saw Max's chat someone said send with 3 and It seemed weird

Mutilate*

Also the guide shows one mutilate that's why I am asking

[chilly marsh]

we go for mastery cape right?

not sure if patc changed anything about stats

[runic hinge]

Finishers should be 5+

[normal mist]

It's kinda whatever

Just choose whatever you like more

[quaint spindle]

can someone TLDR me and confirm if i coldblood Kingsbane

[haughty flicker]

short answer yes

long answer also yes

[quaint spindle]

beautiful

[pliant remnant]

shorter answer ye

[marsh fjord]

I dont mean this in a offensive way but never listen to twitch chat bro. always ask here if you are curious

[analog field]

Ofc just curious as we have been playing DS the whole exp and you were forced to finish with 5+ CP but now with fatebound this isn't the case.

[main bridge]

that is not actually true

even with DS you only send envenom with full combo points when you are in darkest night

[analog field]

I said 5+

[marsh fjord]

When you say 5+ you mean 5

Stop fooling yourself bro

because you actually need to go to 7 for DS

not +5

[deft shard]

+1

[analog field]

What do you mean, didn't understand

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosolostan-gif-22443651

[worthy timber]

so for fatebound rotation, after coldblood/kingsbane, we vanish into a mutilate?

[wide flame]

does this work to get a map for a hero item this week?

[marsh fjord]

Yes

you do that because of the flip hero talent

[marsh fjord]

My guild said it did.

but im not sure

[worthy timber]

thnx just confirming

[pliant remnant]

They don't either, don't worry

[tough gorge]

Im sure someone has mentioned this, but I think my talents glitches, I have access to bleed build and cleave build

At the same time

Anybody else got this?

[strange niche]

is fungal the fastest delve rn?

[main bridge]

sidestreet is pretty fast too

[balmy condor]

only one of them is active at a given time

if you /reload it'll look normal

[tough gorge]

Ok

[tough gorge]

Didn't fix it. I can still do both builds

Nvm fixed, reloaded again lol

[main bridge]

i vanished in this delve and the delve boss isn't respawning

cool game

[marsh fjord]

Muffin

you always make me laugh bro

i can't take you serious

[frozen glacier]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1402339140078665841/Dark_v2_1.jpg

[wanton remnant]

do we have new talent builds yet? or is that going to be later in the week?

[balmy condor]

the talent builds haven't changed

we got no changes

therefore no talent changes

[real solar]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[vast pond]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[vast pond]

It's like a tiny ritual forge

[wanton remnant]

ok thank you.

[burnt star]

soooo.. sbs procs the cloak

were trying to do achievement, and watching it proc is kinda funny

[balmy condor]

yah cloak procs off any damage dealt

[dense talon]

if we are not taking dragon tempered blades, what are the two poisons to apply?

[balmy condor]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[humble verge]

me when im fat

man its 4am almost

laying here

considering just staying up until maintenance is done

[marsh fjord]

Gonna be around 9 I think

[humble verge]

i did take 2 melatonins earlier tho

wait, are there spanish realms on NA?

[vital flicker]

So with the new tier set Iron Wire is now an even more dead talent, right? Like what would you even drop for it

[humble verge]

ironwire in 2025

[past bobcat]

is cas spatter working for everyone?

or is it just me

[vital flicker]

Yeah I thought as much

[balmy condor]

yep

[humble verge]

whispyr

wait i forgor

[restive falcon]

should u be able to be rank3 cloak?

[lofty gazelle]

think it's only r2 this week

[restive falcon]

hmm i seen someone in city with rank3

707

[lofty gazelle]

oh then idk

[lyric crater]

are we really playing fatebound for raid ?

[restive falcon]

is it an exploit for rank3 cloak this week?

[kindred flare]

has anyone mentioned not being able to /cancelaura darkest night anymore?

can't right click it off either

[humble verge]

wait, u guys use cancelaura macro?

i... i just click it on my buffs 😔

[kindred flare]

i feel like we're missing the point

[reef timber]

are the guides up to date for telent trees?

[balmy condor]

yes

[lyric crater]

never though we have fate bound spec for raid

[tacit hedge]

Has the bleed rotation changed for us this season at all?

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

but....why

[haughty flicker]

[deft shard]

@balmy condor i know u did a vidéo but its could be good in the future to have a little memo to which boss we should play fatebound fullmono or DS in wowhead guide

[kindred flare]

? why what? I use it in m+ when i have few combo points to reapply with ambush

[deft shard]

🫄

[humble verge]

me omw to bench 120kg

[haughty flicker]

you dont have to cancel aura dn to reapply mark with ambush

so uh

[kindred flare]

I'm aware, but with darkest night up you won't lose stacks of death mark... so uh?

[haughty flicker]

what

[balmy condor]

well

you consume the DN

so what stacks are you losing

[haughty flicker]

you either consume dn and end up at 3 stacks

or press ambush and end up at 3 stacks

[balmy condor]

ye

[kindred flare]

The way I played it was when I didn't have many combo points, I'd cancle it and reapply so I could spread bleeds and not worry about not losing stacks

otherwise I ahve to throw out an envenom first instead of ruptures/CT

[humble verge]

but hes talking about wasting 7cp by double applying DT, by not consuming it on a new pack

[kindred flare]

exactly, am I insane? I wouldn't want to have to build from 0-7 on a new pack jsut to envenom instead of spreading bleeds immediately, right?

[haughty flicker]

you

dont have to do that

[humble verge]

i think u just decided to overword it

[haughty flicker]

you press ambush

then spread bleeds

cancel aura is not doing anything for you

[humble verge]

he just wants to remove

the extra DN

he hasnt consumed

[kindred flare]

yeah, but then I'm not consuming death marks stacks on the target

because you don't consume stacks with darkest night up

[balmy condor]

that's fine

[humble verge]

ja

[kindred flare]

its fine not to consume stacks? seems like a damage loss

[balmy condor]

you're not getting anything out of it in aoe

[haughty flicker]

thats like 500k plague damage and 50% bonus damage on two muts

[tough gorge]

Sounds overly complex for no gain

[haughty flicker]

and in sacrifice you're dropping a dn envenom

[novel star]

mark uptime matters more than the cycling of it by a lot

in aoe

[kindred flare]

that seems insane counterintuitive to just cancelling the aura and reapplying it, it might not be a lot of damage but it's something and the sooner we consume stacks the sooner we can swap the mark if a priority gets pulled or something

[balmy condor]

you're not even cycling towards something though

cause like

you already have darkest night

[haughty flicker]

you're giving up what you wouldve been cycling towards

[pure tide]

when can we replace the overcharged belt

[haughty flicker]

probably next week you'll get a replacement early in m+

[novel star]

the scuffed dn that does nothing to your stacks is still a guaranteed crit and everything right

[pure tide]

i havent simmed yet not home, but would m0 belt be better then?

[haughty flicker]

idek what ilvl m0 goes to so no clue

can just sim if you get one to drop

[cyan dew]

Boys, what I need to do to make the 2 last keys for vaults? I'm resetting the DG and the bosses are alread dead.

[novel star]

ur spamming envenom so often in aoe i don’t think the prio target thing is real or relevant

unless it’s like a full on chain pull

which you should be holding vanish for :3

so it also doesn’t matter :3

[haughty flicker]

m0 are weekly lockout so you can only get to 6 afaik

[kindred flare]

yeah, none of it matters really

[haughty flicker]

resetting m0 doesnt reset the bosses

[cyan dew]

so, how do i complete vault?

[haughty flicker]

you dont

[balmy condor]

yes

[cyan dew]

oh.

[haughty flicker]

do delves for hero vault

thats more valuable anyway

[novel star]

then yea it doesn’t do shit

[balmy condor]

like you can side by side what cancelaura-ing would do right

you either ambush, have darkest night and your mark at 3

[cyan dew]

ty

[balmy condor]

or you cancelaura ambush, lose darkest night, have your mark at 3

then you cycle back to your darkest night

what does cycling give

extra mut dam and some tickle dam from the mark

not relevant at all

and you're munching most of the mut dam anyway

[kindred flare]

i mean, sure, but at the end of the day, why can't I cancel it now? regardless of all of this, that's how I played, why did they change it?

[novel star]

if you’re using mouseover ruptures it changes like not even the mark dam right

[balmy condor]

no clue why you can't cancel it

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

I'm just saying it makes no sense to cancel it

so its' not something that matters if it changed or not

[haughty flicker]

knowing it has been changed will now make me cope it will disappear less often

[kindred flare]

then it seems so arbitrary to change it

[novel star]

the answer to this is just game bad blizzard bad

they probably had no idea people were canceling it and have no idea they changed it

big game

lots of things happen on accident every patch

lol

[balmy condor]

I mean they probably didn't change it on purpose

[humble verge]

hello veuko !!!

[balmy condor]

some background thing changed probably and fucked the cancelaura stuff

[novel star]

hello uberscot

[balmy condor]

any number of background stuff could've impacted it

[novel star]

that’s what i’m saying TUBBY quit jacking my swag

[novel star]

sorry

idk why i got defensive

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[balmy condor]

it's okay I like it when you're a little feisty pookie

[novel star]

cmere and lemme see what those big dry gamer lips taste like babe

[balmy condor]

white monster

[haughty flicker]

i bet they call you that

[novel star]

you’re so dreamy

i prefer pink tho

but only the good pink

ultra rosa

[balmy condor]

not strawberry dreams?

[novel star]

not a big strawberry fan

it’s okay

pineapple monster also goated

[humble verge]

jyst

gi

for the

orig monstee

no sugar

[novel star]

eh

[humble verge]

i love fatfingering

[novel star]

regular monster is like fine

[humble verge]

ib my phone

[novel star]

it’s just kinda boring

[humble verge]

ure boring :(

[rain mortar]

any delves that are especially good for rogue that we can just sneak through real fast by chance?

[humble verge]

fungal folly

[buoyant herald]

fungal folly is super fast today

[humble verge]

always

[rain mortar]

okay so same one as for everyone hehe

[buoyant herald]

yerp

[distant fog]

what ilvl outpaces current 4 set ?

11.1 4 set

i have a tiny rogue i wanna ilvl up

[buoyant herald]

idk youd need to sim but

guide says you want to go 2/2 if fatebound

[distant fog]

fatebound is raid spec ye

[buoyant herald]

if youre waiting for new 4set its usually a mix of norm/hero level stuff

single/low tareget yeah

[distant fog]

well

deathstalker still op

you get one catalyst charge week 1

then 1 for aotc right ?

or 2500

then pray for lfr or normal or heroic set pieces to drop for you

[buoyant herald]

spark this week so cata next i think

[distant fog]

pretty sure i saw. acata this week

we get 1 whole spark this week and cata i think

[buoyant herald]

lasy seasons didnt reset

[distant fog]

nope definetly a cata this week

i have 1 ethereal voidsplinter

[buoyant herald]

oh neat

[distant fog]

oh wait

no it was a bug

I GOT TROLLED

[haughty flicker]

[distant fog]

NOOOO

WHY WOULD IT SAY ONE THEN TURN 0

[haughty flicker]

we'll have one when raid launches

[buoyant herald]

[distant fog]

1 during raid 1 for aotc

so garunteed two piece week 1

is there an infinite grind this week for rep ?

[haughty flicker]

probably not an intentional one

[distant fog]

so youre saying theres a chance

[haughty flicker]

theres always some type of rep bug

but they have cracked down on that more recently

[distant fog]

true

[haughty flicker]

so thats one of the few things i wouldnt abuse early and often

[distant fog]

getting that heroic piece kinda nice

how toxic the dragon one was

for a shitty cape we threw away in 5 minutes

[fresh kelp]

yes but i wouldnt recommend doing it

[rain mortar]

Big brain - get it day 1 in pvp. Quick and easy. Then waste it right away to get 2 piece and be a heroic and normal parselord

[astral current]

wtf

[fallow canopy]

Servers are shitting the bed rn

[bright girder]

yes. they. are.

[astral current]

small indie company

[warped lily]

someone is stucked here aswell

or its just me

[naive crescent]

I missed my daughters piano recital so I could grind my toons and this is how Blizz repays me?? Fucking scam artists I'm cancelling my sub

[haughty flicker]

[astral current]

also is there a campaign skip for alts?

[runic hinge]

[astral current]

or i gotta do campaign on all of them

[round fjord]

just fly to the guy who gave the cape yto your main

and skip there

[flint snow]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1402339140078665841/Dark_v2_1.jpg

[raw marlin]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[astral current]

thx

[umbral sierra]

archival assaultis such a free delve

mobs reset and dont snap when u go throguh ports so u can skip to the boss if u got 2 people in the delve

[marsh fjord]

Anyone know if EU is live already

[raw marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[raw marlin]

No one in my friend list is on

Also 5am and not that important

[marsh fjord]

I just got pinged

It’s up

[raw marlin]

Neeeerrdd

[pliant remnant]

It's up

[frozen glacier]

so guys how long will we get to have fun before being beat into the ground by blizzard

[pliant remnant]

we're average in raid so like the whole season

(not copium)

[tranquil bough]

which cloak gem do u pick?

[marsh fjord]

mast

[umbral sierra]

sim it

[grim jay]

Why do you even care

Season didnt start yet

[marsh fjord]

Why do you care if i care

[distant fog]

anyway to get the previous tier set on my rogue ?

[grim jay]

Because you are posting on a public discord channel and I'm curious like that

[marsh fjord]

stop being cringe bro

[grim jay]

???

Alright dented

[marsh fjord]

Blue name is auto dented already

[rustic thunder]

ye

[marsh fjord]

[grim jay]

Its blue for no specific reason. StOp BeInG CrInGe

[marsh fjord]

using capital letters like that in the big 2025

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[grim jay]

Previous as in S2?

[runic hinge]

[grim jay]

Unless you like it

[charred obsidian]

whats are we taöking about

[runic hinge]

I hope youre having a good patch dayt

[grim jay]

You too. wont be playing until evening tho

[runic hinge]

i just logged in (im in NA)

[marsh fjord]

what about me

[grim jay]

I'll mostly get the bit of new stuff done and think about which alt I might wanna play ig

[grim jay]

Everyone should have a good day

[marsh fjord]

goat

[zenith elm]

Happy patch day guys, and good morning fellow rogues

[distant fog]

hey guys

whats the % loss for not having last seasons et

[marsh fjord]

sim yourself with 4 set and then look at the differences

[distant fog]

my 4 set is like 630 id unno man

[marsh fjord]

Just sim it then with max IL 4p if you wanna know

we can't really answer that qeustion for you

[coral ibex]

what will having that information do for you

does it really matter

[marsh fjord]

i stopped asking that qeustion long time ago 😄

[pliant remnant]

lawd help me I'm 'boutta bust

[charred obsidian]

what the

[pliant remnant]

[rustic thunder]

anyone else having fps issues after the patch? it's like mine dropped by 30 or 40 frames in karesh

[unique lake]

Does sin rogue deal physical dmg ? I m gonna play with a monk tank but idk if bleed and nature are physical or not ?

[red schooner]

Nature isn't, bleed is if I remember correctly

[balmy condor]

Bleeds, melee, and mutilate/fok

Anything that does not say “physical” is magic

[glass raptor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

Im pretty sure if we are to get physical you will think there is a ton of magic to it

[grim jay]

Addons or weakaura checked?

[unique lake]

Ty

[rustic thunder]

checked & updated but didnt help, ig ill update the drivers game is laggy af rn anyway

[hearty seal]

aight
patch day
now just gotta get through work

[grim jay]

Daily struggle

Tho

[hearty seal]

fair

[topaz cedar]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1402339140078665841/Dark_v2_1.jpg

[radiant snow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[charred obsidian]

do we have any rogue st sims?

[arctic tusk]

[distant fog]

I have to do delves tomorrow sad

[merry flower]

Is mastery the best fiber gem for assa?

[charred obsidian]

could be worse

[distant fog]

Yea could be delves today

assasination m+ looks fun as fk

[normal mist]

Looks exactly like s2

[ocean root]

hey guys! Do we need to download new platers or update them for the new patch ?

[distant fog]

So if i dont have

Last season set

How fked am i

[charred obsidian]

yeah assa could very well have the strongest aoe in the game

exept maybe destro on mega pulls

[grim jay]

As much as on any spec

[charred obsidian]

you can come as a new player and not be fked

its totally fine

[distant fog]

I just dont wanna be over 10% weaker

[grim jay]

Depends on your goals

[charred obsidian]

this game make all old shit totally irrelevant the next season lol

[distant fog]

Well im not a new player just returning

Im a mythic raider or m+ spammer

[charred obsidian]

well then its even better

oops

wrong ping

youll get gear fast so youll be fine

[distant fog]

Does anyone remember the % gain from last season set

[grim jay]

You certainly will be quite a bit weaker

[distant fog]

Well i already bought a m0 world tour to be relatively same ilvl

[grim jay]

Until you get some good drops

[distant fog]

Just the problem is set tier

[charred obsidian]

plus. apparently playing with the 1 button rotation makes you better than 70% of players already so i think having a bit less damage but being good will serve you well anyways

[distant fog]

Oh no i dont do that

Im not a new player

[charred obsidian]

it was just an example

it was to show that if youre just good its fine

[distant fog]

Meh ill just super lucky and get 4 piece next week

[sharp viper]

I keep misplacing my daggers as well

[distant fog]

Aotc and catalyst is 2 piece

[ocean root]

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[prisma monolith]

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[distant fog]

well

[charred obsidian]

this season looks really good to me

[distant fog]

I have to craft a dagger this week fk

[charred obsidian]

last season seemed nice but i ended up not liking the raid all that much

[distant fog]

Why cause it was easy and ugly ?

[charred obsidian]

the undermine zone was nice and i like the car but

well it was kinda ugly and some of the bosses were just boring

[golden loom]

Dagger craft good

[distant fog]

Meanwhile this raid looks like eye candy

Ye my world tour gave me a sword and dagger

[charred obsidian]

i didnt like stix, i wanna fight man, not run on a ball half the fight

[distant fog]

I hate flavor fights like that

Theres no flavor fights this raid

[charred obsidian]

its not flavor, its forced bullshit for no reason

they know people dont like it but they make it anyways

[distant fog]

Ima keep my dh well geared

[charred obsidian]

its not difficult, its just plain boring

[distant fog]

That third spec coming soontm

[bronze plover]

hey everyone does anyone skip storyline with alt? because when i skip it doesnt give me new quest automaticly

[charred obsidian]

yeah i really hope its a new spec coming to dh

it looks so neat

[pliant remnant]

What new quest

[distant fog]

You mean reshhii ?

[charred obsidian]

ive had so much of an hard time choosing spec this season too

[distant fog]

If you want the wrap just ask for one from same npc

[charred obsidian]

right now i have narrowed it down to 2 specs

[distant fog]

Meh im between shaman paladin rogue

[pliant remnant]

Yeah, just fly to the tiny island in the middle

[distant fog]

And dk

[charred obsidian]

Sin and Destro

i was thinking demo but they just made it less fun

[distant fog]

I think ill play assa rogue

Finding a guild is easier as a dps

I just need to parse well

[charred obsidian]

im interested in Sin but. yeah. its not that strong in ST as far as i know

[bronze plover]

I mean skipping main story line with alt and get new quest that leads me to get back as wowhead said but after skipping i didnt get any quest

[charred obsidian]

in m+ its fine in packs because our aoe and prio damage is insane

and on bosses with ads

[distant fog]

Naw assa st is doggy pty sure

[charred obsidian]

while im happy sin is insane in aoe, for me at least an assassin feels like a single target spec to me

no complains on the aoe, its neat af

just the fantasy isnt there for me lol

on the damage front

when i think assassin i think nuking in st