assassination

[tropic jewel]

I‘m so used to Play the non garrote Build from ls (was playing 19/20)

[balmy condor]

deathstalker tier gives you infinite funnel

so meta atm seems to be dragging a bunch of mobs into a boss

and arcane/assa funneling it into the boss

[tropic jewel]

Seems legit

[balmy condor]

we'll see what happens with the meta but dunno

[gaunt sigil]

What ilvl are we looking at to go into M0?

[balmy condor]

660 is probably good enough to struggle through it pretty comfortably

[coral jewel]

From memory, it wanted me to open with garrote and not ambush. Also it didn't tell me to vanisn for IC buff

[balmy condor]

it'll tell you to ambush from stealth if you're playing deathstalker, which is where it's required

on fatebound opening with garrote is totally fine

and I'm not sure it suggests vanish at all

it doesn't do major cooldowns

so no vanish, no deathmark

[gaunt sigil]

It took awhile for me to not open with garrote

[balmy condor]

you'll have to press those yourself

[coral jewel]

Ill give hekili a go i guess

[vestal geyser]

same, after opening with garrote for so long with IC all through DF

[gaunt sigil]

yeah I just got back into wow and completely forgot I need to not open with garrote and it took me a day or so to realize

still S3 DF brained

[vestal geyser]

also you dont need to open with ambush from stealth if you have the darkest night buff

you can go straight into the garrotes

[gaunt sigil]

So is going into tomorrow at 650 adequate?

I didnt have much time to grind my 2 mains much higher than that without ratting M+

[balmy condor]

bit low but probably fine

[gaunt sigil]

Bet

My rogue is honestly geared really well just low ilvl

[coral jewel]

That mightve been a case. Im gonna suss again tomorrow and compare it to hekili. Coming from a 3 button spec in cata, retail is way more involved

[gaunt sigil]

Warrior gear is kinda trashed but both have 665 weaps so we will pump

[balmy condor]

bro nothing hits harder than the spotify auto play into dubstep at 3:30am

how blessed am I

[velvet mural]

any easy way to achieve this? just dinked 80 and got the belt still ilvl ~570

[balmy condor]

80 ilvl in 3 hours?

you're kinda cooked

[velvet mural]

im eu

[balmy condor]

well

then you're probably best off chain spamming m+

but realisitically you're still cooked

[velvet mural]

bruh thats what i didnt want to hear

[balmy condor]

probably just a get gear when patch comes out

[pliant remnant]

Just spend a couple mill on the auction house and buy some BoEs

[balmy condor]

not a big deal

[pliant remnant]

ez ez

[balmy condor]

you can just spam heroic dungeons and m0's

and then m+ the week after

you'll be aight

[velvet mural]

yeah the catchup gear will appear tommorrow i suppose

[sullen violet]

guys im just switching to rogue do you know of a good way to learn and drill the rotation i have about 8 hours a day to play

[balmy condor]

play.... the game?

[velvet mural]

just do the rotation?

[balmy condor]

hit a dummy?

it's not rocket science idk

get up bleeds, sync cds, press envenom a billion times

[velvet mural]

whisp you play assa exclusively

[dense cedar]

hardest spec in the game

[velvet mural]

?

[balmy condor]

yeah lately I have been

[dense cedar]

Whispyr is a huge Fury Warrior fan

[balmy condor]

I used to play sub a ton in shadowlands

[dawn pollen]

i would play you exclusively

[velvet mural]

dm

[dense cedar]

has an alt account just for playing it on the down-low

[balmy condor]

but after assa rework I haven't seen a reason to spec out of assa

I played sub a little in dragonflight pre-work

and like a boss and a half in amirdrassil

but I was getting PI on assa in amirdrassil in my guild so

assa and sub do pretty much the same thing these days

[velvet mural]

i wonder if my fotm will get nerfed soon

[balmy condor]

unless there's a giga niche for 1:30 and fatebound isn't playable, sub is just purple assa

[viscid spear]

Whispyr is an even huger fans of people not doomposting in the channel

[dense cedar]

doom posting is bad, but what's worse

is delivered doom posting

[gaunt sigil]

Circlet and the delve belt, the delve belt is super easy and quick to get as you can spam lvl 1 delves

[balmy condor]

W filter hit

[gaunt sigil]

Then just craft what you can with sparks and spend all stones and crests you may have

[rotund oak]

there is an even worse stage than that

[midnight mist]

only 8 hours a day?

you are cooked

[small garnet]

Gearing a rogue is cursed

[velvet mural]

do stones reset?

[gaunt sigil]

Yes

[viscid spear]

Wish they would skip right to the "I'm playing <class> now!" and just leave

[small garnet]

Im hard overcapping mastery while everything else is not even at 10k

[golden loom]

nope they are not

[dense cedar]

bunch of classes have weirdness with weapons

[rotund oak]

hard overwhat

[golden loom]

but if you are spamming dungeons anyways u wont run into valor stone issues

[dense cedar]

but rogues having a completely unique piece of gear is fucked honestly

[dawn pollen]

valourstone does not reset ?

[warm vortex]

As in daggers?

[golden loom]

they are not resetting this season

[dense cedar]

ye

[viscid spear]

Also remember the Valorstones transfer is going away today, in case anyone needs to know that

[golden loom]

so do demon hunters

[dense cedar]

they don't gotta use them tho

we have to

[gaunt sigil]

Oh wait they changed valorstones going away

[pliant remnant]

Rogues having a completely unique piece of gear is great

[dense cedar]

crafting mostly solves this being an issue at least

[golden loom]

I mean its not a issue imo

[pliant remnant]

Just be the only rogue in your guild and you'll have an inventory full of daggers

[viscid spear]

It's fun being the only Rogue in your guild

[dense cedar]

also loot changes help also

[rotund oak]

based

[gaunt sigil]

I love watching the raid tilt cause 2 myth daggers dropped off the boss and I’m the only rogue

[dense cedar]

mythic raid personal loot

[peak pagoda]

Not at all, can play a diff spec

[unique lake]

Hello bros, after few years (df) im coming back to wow and it seems that sin is better than outlaw actually ? (I usually play the best spec between them two as i love them, i just dont like sub) what u guys think if u had the chance to try the spec?

[viscid spear]

And then make your raid team pissed because dagger drops for the 6th week in a row

[rotund oak]

hey bro,dont do the mistake,its not worth it

[dense cedar]

idk if playing a spec that plays and does damage so differently is exactly a real choice to make

[viscid spear]

glances at channel name

[unique lake]

Coming back to hell.. mistake already done.. we all get back to wow

[golden loom]

[unique lake]

No my question is : is sin rly that good? I made my choice but i m just asking for sin

[pliant remnant]

Kingslayers

[peak pagoda]

Exactly that

[dense cedar]

beautiful

[red schooner]

Sin is good, outlaw is good, both are fine

[pliant remnant]

Nah Sin is bad, don't listen to the tier lists

[viscid spear]

We have too many people that can use non-dagger Agi weapons

[pliant remnant]

Reroll Outlaw

[dawn pollen]

try both and paly what you find most fun

[unique lake]

Ty for the decent answer

[velvet mural]

oh you get full 642 set by doing new campaign in 11.2

[golden loom]

gotta have it in the inventory to matchfix the wowaudit logs

[velvet mural]

no point in gearing then

[strange onyx]

There are two dagger specs, one is called «sub», surely the other is better

[viscid spear]

No, reroll to Balance Druid

[midnight mist]

thats true on live, you would be crazy not to play sin for s3 tho so

[red schooner]

Who hurt you

[pliant remnant]

Reroll to Balance Druid, and main alt Aug

[viscid spear]

That's my next best character

Only like 5 ilvls off

[unique lake]

I hate sub since they destroy it after legion

[rotund oak]

If u want an honest answer outlaw is a wildcard,it will do ALOT of dmg BUT sin is a more well rounded spec,less to worry.If i were you ild play sin but u can always try both and see what u like

[tall pawn]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[midnight mist]

are you guys aware s2 is over in 1 day btw

[red schooner]

Yeah

[golden loom]

are u ready for some goddamn gaming zac

[pliant remnant]

ty zac

[unique lake]

Yeah was the same at DF, i prefer consistent dmg, i thought maybe there were some changes since they added the new heroic talents, will give it a try

[midnight mist]

idk im just checking

maybe you guys have not been following ptr tho

[pliant remnant]

Yeah, there were some changes

Assa got an annoying minigame added to its rotation

[balmy condor]

we have an annoying minigame?

[viscid spear]

It's called tracking buffs

[balmy condor]

why did no one tell me

[rotund oak]

must imply DSM

but but we coinflipin'

[midnight mist]

do yoiu enjoy ds in m+

[balmy condor]

I do

[midnight mist]

like the actual mark mechanic

[balmy condor]

I think it's fine

[pliant remnant]

I don't really even mind DSM tbh

but it's not not annoying

[balmy condor]

if you need to move it, it gets a little awkward

[midnight mist]

Wtf is dsm

[pliant remnant]

Deathstalker's Mark

[balmy condor]

but like 95% of the time it's fine

[solar wyvern]

Mark would be cool

[midnight mist]

Ok just say mark like a normal human

[solar wyvern]

if it didnt randomly disappear on envenom

[balmy condor]

you just slap it on a thing and it dies and you move it and gg

[pliant remnant]

ok mark zachary

I will say mark

just for you

and not DSM

since that's so ambiguous

[kindred breach]

Nah i was confused too tbh

playing it only since S1

[balmy condor]

what

[midnight mist]

L

[balmy condor]

DSM is a very common abbreviation

[pliant remnant]

fr

[balmy condor]

you guys live under a rock

or what

[midnight mist]

bdsm or

[kindred breach]

Guess im slow or smthh

[dense cedar]

its called dsm because playing assassination is listed in the dsm-5

[pliant remnant]

dsm and bdsm are kinda the same thing so

[rotund oak]

like u play the hero tree for more than half a year or something

[kindred breach]

only correct answer here

[rotund oak]

u dont know dsm

start questioning what u know

[midnight mist]

tbf rogue only have cursed abvs

[shy axle]

DTSTLKRSMRK

[midnight mist]

between bdsm

[dense cedar]

ass

[midnight mist]

and cp

and ass

idk

[quiet oar]

Zac acting like an AMerican askin "WTF IS A KILOMETER"

[pliant remnant]

[viscid spear]

I just say DS because this isn't Archeus.

[pliant remnant]

wtf is a km

[balmy condor]

wtf is ctb or ctw even

[pliant remnant]

just say european mile

like a normal person

[rotund oak]

just dont imply its a nautical mile

things get complicated

[quiet oar]

Real

[balmy condor]

what if we just prank new FOTM rogues and instead of ctb we call it cbt

[viscid spear]

when your gf smiles instead of skilometers

[golden loom]

I highkey hate abbreviations so I usually try to type out the whole thing unless its something kinda obvious like KB

[pliant remnant]

Keyboard, right?

What keyboards do we all have here

[golden loom]

razer huntsman tournament edition

[red schooner]

Keyblade? Are we kingdom hearts gaming now?

[balmy condor]

corsair k100

[viscid spear]

Killing Blow?
#pvp

[pliant remnant]

Quefrency

[golden loom]

that looks freaky

[pliant remnant]

It's based

[viscid spear]

Whatfrency?

[zenith elm]

I have some keyboards

[pliant remnant]

I have a Function key in the middle of my Spacebars

[balmy condor]

?????????

[pliant remnant]

so instead of having a separate Function row, I press a Function key + normal numbers

I couldn't play WoW without it

[balmy condor]

but why

[pliant remnant]

[balmy condor]

I mean I guess you get used to it

but holy hell

[pliant remnant]

I get if it seems weird

[balmy condor]

key in the middle of my spacebar would be a tilter

[red schooner]

Oh sure, he can get used to it but my keybinds are apparently a monstrosity. Double standards

[pliant remnant]

I mean, my left thumb's always stationary when I play

and then I use my right thumb when typing

on different spacebars

[kindred breach]

How u jump between evenoms

[viscid spear]

Who needs a keybind for /mountspecial, you weirdo

[balmy condor]

/jump macro

[red schooner]

Important button

[zenith elm]

Whats your keybinds

[pliant remnant]

My Envenom's on 3

[red schooner]

It was deadly poison being bound to 2 that caused the most issues

[pliant remnant]

so since I need to jump and Envenom non-stop all the time

I can do that

[zenith elm]

WTF

[kindred breach]

based

[zenith elm]

You're a monstruosity

[red schooner]

It used to be bound to an ability years ago, that ability got removed so I just... Slapped something else there

To fill it

[radiant raven]

[kindred breach]

He must do the never let poison fade challenge

[red schooner]

My entire keybind setup is scuffed as a result of 18 years of me trying to change as little as physically possible

[kindred breach]

or something

[radiant raven]

honestly high5

[golden loom]

guess what happened here

[kindred breach]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-bridge-hoverboard-woah-no-hands-gif-16859719

[red schooner]

I don't like tweaking it so I just make as few adjustments as possible which leads to chaos over the years

[golden loom]

I was spam jumping and ADAD spamming on monkey side of cauldron until I stunned myself so had to human racial

[red schooner]

But its chaos I'm comfortable with

[pliant remnant]

lmaooo

the warrior player in you

going mental

[golden loom]

it was also rank 3 at the time

I ended the fight by having to run to dino

and shadow stepped into beam

never lucky with being on the correct boss dying..

[radiant raven]

this owns, 10/10

[balmy condor]

guys.... bed time is looking so realisitic

the light

at the end of the raidbots progress wheel

[pliant remnant]

[red schooner]

Soon.

[kindred breach]

Until you find something newly fked up in the SIM and your addicted brain needs to find the reason

[balmy condor]

no

no more

I know there's skeletons in the closet

but I left comments in the APL for me to check them later

and I have a notepad of things I know are probably chopped

[kindred breach]

Your APL be like

"WTF IS THIS"

at the end of each line

[rocky sluice]

you guys crafting your slots somewhere else with the cloak coming out?

was checking out fuus sims

was thinking head or wrist

[jaunty sky]

Head??

[balmy condor]

wrist like we did in s2

always offhand/wrist

[rocky sluice]

haste mastery or crit masterty D: which did you pick. I know i should sim but I got work soon hha

[golden loom]

vers crit

or haste crit

or haste vers

[balmy condor]

craft without a missive

[kindred breach]

It will change based on the sim specifically

[balmy condor]

it legit doesn't matter

I've been crafting with no missive all expac

who cares

[rocky sluice]

word thanks guys lol

[pliant remnant]

Go Haste/Vers

for the culture

[golden loom]

neck/ring is probably the things you want missives for but the lower stat pieces do whatever

[balmy condor]

ye

[rocky sluice]

tyty!

so excited for new content

[balmy condor]

worst case you enchant/gem something else I guess

[rocky sluice]

word I can always change it later

[balmy condor]

yeh

[rocky sluice]

wish I had socket on these guys before hand :c

didn't think about that

oh well

[sullen violet]

what about the old contend? 😄

[balmy condor]

💤

[golden loom]

then again this is the difference between crit/haste - vers/mastery - 3 ilvl higher mastery/haste for me

[balmy condor]

let me sleep man

[golden loom]

nothing matters...

[kindred breach]

Long ass sims lol

[balmy condor]

gotta use cocaine for thermal paste on these raidbots servers or something

there's gotta be a way

[balmy condor]

I started ts 16 min ago

it's going for another 20 at this rate

I'm fucked

[kindred breach]

yeah its wild lmao

[frigid relic]

at least your premium has it running at 2x power 😎

[kindred breach]

i took the big subscription at the beginning of S2

did a 30min one at most

all stuffs+gems and shit

so long

[balmy condor]

I could've run a bigger sim from CLI but that would actually have taken all night

you don't know the horrors man

when they do like big augmentation sims

that require a full raid group to buff alongside the aug

some of those sims are legit like 3-4 days

[hollow sphinx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[frigid relic]

so cooked

[balmy condor]

half a week of ocean-boiling just to simp the mages for the 17th patch in a row

https://tenor.com/view/knowing-better-kb-know-better-gif-25459195

[kindred breach]

another reason to delete augs

[frigid relic]

assass looking good again "rogues aren't getting away with this BROKEN spec"

mages: yeah fuck them

[balmy condor]

okay so we did 10% in 5 minutes

I need 70% more

[kindred breach]

what time is it where u live boss lmao

[golden loom]

how about you find a 10% gain

[balmy condor]

4:16am

[kindred breach]

wild xDDD

[balmy condor]

I mean, I did

[golden loom]

what the HELLY

[kindred breach]

back to work in 15

i imagine what u endure

[balmy condor]

fatebound got like 11% worth of APL uppies

the vast majority of that being "play 90s you stupid clanker"

[golden loom]

c word

[shy axle]

[balmy condor]

wirtual bonk cup upload

that'll get me to the end of the sim

blessup

[tawdry root]

Question about sanguine blades: is the 30% duplicated damage and 2 energy consumed when you reapply rupture/garrote/CT when above 50% energy, or does the extra damage just happen passively?

[balmy condor]

the check/trigger happens on every tick

any single bleed that ticks

when it ticks, checks if you're above 50%

and if you are, it'll eat 2 energy for a duplicated 30% tick

[kindred breach]

that must be wild calculation on the games side

i'm not a dev and that shit always amazed me

[balmy condor]

I hate to break it to you, but it's actually one of the easier ones

[tawdry root]

thank you!

[kindred breach]

wow for real?

[balmy condor]

I mean the calculation for the tick has already occurred

[kindred breach]

Feel like when i have 12 garrotes and 6 ruptures and 20CT

it must be a thing to identifiy on each tick

[balmy condor]

so whenever the server registers a tick event

it just checks the origin players energy level

and then if X true then fire off a trigger for spell Y

Y being a sanguine blades hit

[kindred breach]

Yeah i see thats basic commands

[balmy condor]

I mean the amount of bleeds you have out is irrelevant in this situation though

like it doesn't matter if you have 1 bleed or 100

it just scans the combat log for a tick event and then if there's a tick event it executes the logic

if there's 100 bleeds it has to do that 100 times more obviously

[grim jay]

Thats really solid, but the real question is.... When does the Whispyr brain server register a sleep event?

[balmy condor]

but like at the end of the day it's just one if X then Y

(idk the codebase obviously but that's just an educated guess based off my work on wowanalyzer/wcl in the past and filtering/scripting the combatlog)

[kindred breach]

when sim is complete -> execute getting out of chair and in the shower

[elfin fossil]

We over 6m in ST sim?

[balmy condor]

no

[kindred breach]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[kindred breach]

u have initial sims here i believe

[balmy condor]

that's not updated

[kindred breach]

woops

[balmy condor]

but the answer is still no

[kindred breach]

my bad then

[balmy condor]

[solar wyvern]

Okay how about now? 6m now?

[ruby shoal]

Do you have guide for fatebound?

[balmy condor]

wowhead/youtube

[kindred breach]

wowhead is updated i believe

[balmy condor]

icyveins is updated as well

[ruby shoal]

Lovely ty

[kindred breach]

(go on youtube he gets more money)

[balmy condor]

it doesn't really change much

cds on cd

[balmy condor]

unironically the youtube money aint shit

[kindred breach]

Even on seasons where sin is huge? like S3 dragonflight with the beginning of it at least?

guess it must draw more attention

[balmy condor]

I mean idc I'll leak the numbers

[elfin fossil]

Sagde, but fatebound is pref in ST?

[balmy condor]

yes

[kindred breach]

Porsche incoming real soon

let me call IRS

real quick

[balmy condor]

s3 df I cranked out an actual ton of content and it was like 150 for a month, 90 the next, then back down to like 20-40

[kindred breach]

[balmy condor]

between seasons I'm lucky if it hits 20

like obviously it's something

[kindred breach]

yeah not paying the rent i guess...

[balmy condor]

yeh

idk

at the end of the day if I were in it for the money, I wouldn't be making wow content

I would get an actual fucking job

[kindred breach]

Yeah and i guess combining the two isnt possible at all?

[red schooner]

That's like... Idk, 20 cans of non-sponsored water?

[midnight mist]

Holy shmoly 33 euro!!!

[balmy condor]

I mean that's kinda what I'm doing now except my "job" is at wowhead

[kindred breach]

yeah i assumed thats what pays the rent lol

[balmy condor]

a good like 75% of the money I make is just d4 stuff

it's good enough

it's a better environment than my last job

nicer people

better management

[midnight mist]

You are 100% on wowhead money rn?

[balmy condor]

I'm happy

[midnight mist]

That's kinda cool

[balmy condor]

yah

[visual sun]

time to put wowhead rogue guides into my profiles (fb, insta,tiktok, wechat, kakao, 4chan, of)

[kindred breach]

shame u dont get some kind of subside from blizz. you're kinda participating to the audience of their game

and i mean u zac fuu or other discords heads

[balmy condor]

I mean blizzard couldn't care about any of this

fan sites will exist and they are their own companies

discord/reddit/social media communities will exist and they are their own platforms too

blizzard can do legit 0 and everything would still exist

[midnight mist]

I actually make like 200/300 e for free just turning on my stream when I play wow and not doing anything

[balmy condor]

so its just pointless for them to even entertain the idea

[midnight mist]

Just for Playing the game that's kinda cooll I'm ngl

[balmy condor]

yeh

200-300 is good for twitch

but you gotta also be an m+ pusher

really hard to get anywhere if you're not like giga io or RWF

[midnight mist]

Ye but I would be doing it either way

[balmy condor]

yeh for sure

[golden loom]

I tune into zacs stream just to see the dancing cats in the bottom right corner of the screen

[balmy condor]

based

THERE IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL

[kindred breach]

Yo its actually big

For somerhing you would do anyway like u Said

[midnight mist]

Ye

[kindred breach]

But yeah like whisp Said it means pushing the game

Which u obviously do well lol

[midnight mist]

It's not like I'm doing streamer stuff like all the big guys that are entertainers it's kinda a lot of work

[kindred breach]

Oh yeah for sure

It becomes ur primary job at this level

You’re showczsing your games

[balmy condor]

zac's primary job is being french though

full time job

[kindred breach]

Yeah I am too lmao

[balmy condor]

my condolences

[kindred breach]

Hard to work with all the croissant I eat each morning

[balmy condor]

all that fromage on your baguette

making it difficult

I feel you

[kindred breach]

🤣🤣🤣

Our cuisine kinda rocks though

Not sure i could change country Without missing it badly

[grim vigil]

hi do we stay above 50% energy in bleed build on bosses for sanguine blades?

[grim jay]

There isnt a single french thing I like to eat that I would identify as french

Am I missing out?

[deft shard]

Pain au chocolat vie perso

[grim vigil]

ah nvm found it

[grim jay]

Oh wait, Mousse au chocolat

[deft shard]

What do you like to eat

[balmy condor]

dawg what

[kindred breach]

There’s a thing called paupiette de veau

[balmy condor]

french food is so fucking good

[kindred breach]

Its soooo goated

[deft shard]

Like, 80% of the dessert in the world are french

Same with cheese

[grim jay]

I dont eat desserts

[balmy condor]

creme brulee is an orgasm

[grim jay]

I had protein powder with that flavour

That was pretty good

[balmy condor]

you'

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

are a monster

[grim jay]

Crossaints are decent, but too many calories

Baguette is alright

[deft shard]

Baguette is bread

U got lot of calories roo

Too

[dreamy rover]

whisyrpr

[grim jay]

Cheese is debatable, only really like Gouda, Emmentaler and cream cheese

[dreamy rover]

help me

[golden loom]

pizza is my favorite french food

[dreamy rover]

im going insane

why rogue so fuckjing bad always

[grim jay]

Ye thats why I said decent

[dreamy rover]

every season roge bad

[balmy condor]

cause you're delusional I guess idk

[golden loom]

whats wrong with rogue now

[balmy condor]

rogue has been very good for a long time

[grim jay]

Worse than Creme brulee protein powder?

[deft shard]

For newcomer try Brie, Morbier, Cantal,

[balmy condor]

I can't help you if you think rogue is bad every season, I would suggest like a therapist or a psychiatrist or something

[dreamy rover]

LMAO

[grim jay]

I know Brie from somewhere

[dreamy rover]

Im just disappointed, had created fake delusional expectations on sub rogue this season that seem to have fallen short

[balmy condor]

sub is fine

[deft shard]

Its the most basic cheese with emmental that does not have a lot of flavor

[deft shard]

I see now assa in tier is like s+ for mm+ (i know it means nothing but its a temperature)

[red schooner]

Just be like me and not like cheese. (I want to like it but it just tastes bad )

[dreamy rover]

whispyr over under 1 month for guild to let me get that tierset?

[deft shard]

What did u try and WHERE

[balmy condor]

I mean how much are you progging

that it takes you 1 month to get your tier

[deft shard]

Because its mostly dogshit out of europe

[red schooner]

Multiple different kinds. I don't like it each time. But it was in the UK.

[balmy condor]

to me that's 3 cata charges minimum

so you're telling me 3 cata charges and no vault rng

and no raid loot

[dreamy rover]

next week im already at 2 cata charges

[balmy condor]

that sounds insane

[dreamy rover]

how long for me to get 2 pieces and complete set

[ashen orbit]

I dont think you are good or nice if people are that mean to you

[golden loom]

just get 4 piece day 1

[dreamy rover]

probably 2nd week of patch im already setted

[deft shard]

Uk Known for its worse food. I hope its was imported. Isok if you dont like it!

[balmy condor]

you get 2 cata pieces in 1 week

[dreamy rover]

im delusional

[balmy condor]

so idk, should get something from vault

and then 1 more?

[dreamy rover]

yhea

[balmy condor]

should be done in like 2 weeks

[golden loom]

personally I am planning on having a hero track tier piece in my delve vault slots

[dreamy rover]

sorry whispyr have a great day i do indeed need a psychiatrist

[visual sun]

we actually had someone like that, got 4pc, pushed 12 early on then bounce for the rest of the season 🤣

[past marten]

Damn, did you copy my todo list?

[balmy condor]

what is this in response to

[deft shard]

But like brie and emmental is very basic like with barely any flavor i think u would like it in a sandwich like ham butter and baguette

[balmy condor]

don't we all man

[ashen orbit]

I read it as his raid not allowing him to get any tier

I might have been mistaken

[balmy condor]

I mean depends

most guilds do it via prio of tier

ours seems kinda low

so it's not unreasonable

if his token doesn't drop, which is just raw rng

[deft shard]

Even if you dont have problem we all should see one!

[balmy condor]

then I can see it

[dreamy rover]

Yhea thats exactly what I was referring to, our tier prio

[balmy condor]

oh I have plenty

[deft shard]

Plenty??

[balmy condor]

plenty of problems

where do I start

[deft shard]

Oh i thought plently of therapist xd

[balmy condor]

it's 5am and I'm updating sims

[dreamy rover]

(Im already off that sert [sertraline])

[balmy condor]

I am giga fucked in the head bro

[ashen orbit]

I hope this is in the top 5

[golden loom]

just gotta send LFR/normal/heroic and pick up the scraps

[deft shard]

Its ur job u love it its ok

[red schooner]

Nah sertraline is great, its the only one that worked for me

[dreamy rover]

Yhea best one, really fixed me up lol

[deft shard]

Just take a lot of place in ur eart but give yourself some time :)

[balmy condor]

fun fact my grandma dropped me like headfirst 5 feet onto a concrete slab as a baby, it's been downhill from there man

[dreamy rover]

BiS consumable list: sertraline

add this to guide whispyr

[balmy condor]

true

[dreamy rover]

[deft shard]

[austere shoal]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[shy axle]

is there another bleed build that is not in the guide? seems to 1 to 1 the same like s2 and i read a few times there are a few small changes this time. Maybe thats bullshit, just to be informed

[balmy condor]

correct

assa got no changes

so neither do the builds

[nova aspen]

garf also got no changes

[balmy condor]

true

[royal hazel]

status update please

[balmy condor]

sims are done but not pushed to github

[royal hazel]

lol

[balmy condor]

its not like raidbots is going to be up for another 12 hours anyways

aint no rush

[marsh fjord]

Whispyr

[royal hazel]

ikr but like i wanna see

[balmy condor]

for fucking what man

[royal hazel]

for the sake of seeing

[balmy condor]

shiny meaningless number

holy shit poggers

[royal hazel]

just ignore me dude

[balmy condor]

I just don't get you people

[royal hazel]

lol

[deft shard]

when the guide will be up?

[royal hazel]

like us rogues?>

[balmy condor]

wanting to see a sim for literally no point

[balmy condor]

they already are

[deft shard]

omg

[royal hazel]

this may trigger you then, i didnt even see the origin on the sim you're simming

i just want see

[deft shard]

mb didnt check îng msg

ping

[toxic kelp]

new sims are out ?

[balmy condor]

jfc

[royal hazel]

but this is only because i hold you in such high regard

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna stfu

you guys are literally demonic

just tiny parasites

[nova aspen]

NEW SIM

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sofia-evil-sofia-smile-sofia-evil-sofia-sofia-smile-evil-gif-17136867

[royal hazel]

did someone say sims

give

[deft shard]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-moba-game-lol-annie-gif-18800673

[royal hazel]

on another front, assa rogu s+ tier for M+

slay brothers

and sisters

[nova aspen]

googles assassination bis list 11.2

[deft shard]

omg no link in the pin message for guide..................................

how can u be that bad whispyr...............

[royal hazel]

can i post links

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/war-within-season-3

i can

oh sheesh i missed the latest youtube video

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal hazel]

fatebound chat

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

is that enough links for you

do you need more

[deft shard]

hm

[royal hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQzrwLEY0g

[deft shard]

can i have one more

[golden loom]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtlety.

[gritty laurel]

i see we've decided that we're going to DPS whispyr's mental while we wait for the patch

[balmy condor]

shall I perhaps type "wowhead" into your google search

give me your full name and address

I'll come over and type it for you

[marsh fjord]

Go to bed bro

[deft shard]

can i give you acceess of my pc with rustdesk so you could type it for me?

[blazing tulip]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=wowhead

😄

[pliant remnant]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[pliant remnant]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtlety.

[pliant remnant]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[pliant remnant]

!fatebound

god damnit

!fb

[prisma monolith]

Only changes for fatebound are macroing cold blood to kingsbane and vanishing during the cold blood buff during deathmark in order to double flip coins. Otherwise regular rotation, finishers on 5+

[pliant remnant]

!!!

[deft shard]

@balmy condor i have a question my best friendo, why the stat priority order here is different (maybe i didint undestood something)

[balmy condor]

for fun

[nova aspen]

fun?

[deft shard]

[nova aspen]

back when i was 14 i was playing for fun

good times

[pliant remnant]

What happened when you turned 15

[nova aspen]

i became obsessed with parse

[quiet oar]

Did we ever play WoW for fun

[nova aspen]

now i need to parse well to have fun

[runic basin]

Oh wtf happened to fatebound is it now the w2g?

[signal shell]

Is fan of knives proc used in ST?

[balmy condor]

it has a strong season 3 tier and got buffed multiple times

[balmy condor]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[runic basin]

Happy to see some changes 🤝

[dreamy rover]

Fuck it, sawfish

Dont ban me

[main bridge]

dude.....too far

you can't just post a saw fish here

[nova aspen]

is that a new dagger tmog?

[dreamy rover]

😔

[deft shard]

https://tenor.com/view/pescesega-pesce-fish-funny-fish-meme-gif-17025285

[dreamy rover]

Sawfish as playable race?

[hexed flicker]

Do any of you guys remember what the cartel chip buys were for assassination if I had all 12s and no mythic boss kills? Seems the class guide was updated and it's gone.

[main bridge]

likely pacemaker and signet/HoC

some people choose HoC if they want to play subtlety too

normally i'd suggest you sim it but i am not sure if raidbots is up

[balmy condor]

no mythic boss kills means you get signet and pacemaker

and uh

that's it

heroic jastor if you dont' have a heroic jastor

[hexed flicker]

Cool cheers. I have the Jastor Diamond already, that was my first purchase. I spent all day getting 12s so I could get the trinkets and just finished then. Unfortunately, by then the guide was gone.

[hoary remnant]

Can you link me the Guide. I didnt catch it

Also does the Guide explain how to be a good gambler? 😄

seriously ty for the guide btw looks good

[dense cedar]

1. Take out loan
2. Go all-in
3. Repeat until jackpot

[nova aspen]

[glad shuttle]

@balmy condor thank you for your guides, videos, sim contributions and everything! And ofc all the other contributors

[quiet oar]

If you think about its, you can win more than 2000% of your Money, but you can only lose 100% of your Money

[pastel roost]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[kind flint]

Yo Whispyr, just looking at the Wowhead guide, you killed it as always. Good shit

[grim jay]

Cant lose if you keep on winning

Losing is just a mindset

[normal kindle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[normal kindle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grand trail]

Damn we are so back

[lime onyx]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

Ty

[balmy condor]

Ty

[balmy condor]

Ty

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-trick-baby-chad-mcknight-obliterated-three-in-a-row-hooray-hat-trick-achieved-gif-17580541396683475218

[fallow canopy]

yo @balmy condor thank you for lending me your lambo to get my cat to their urgent surgery and the cash to pay for it 👑

[balmy condor]

Np dawg happy to have saved you from that burning building the other day

[lime onyx]

the day i'm actually home not working the server is down for 8 FUCKING HOURS, my whole work day

[balmy condor]

Well

It is a patch day

For a new season

[lime onyx]

why couldn't blizzard work around my schedule better

[balmy condor]

True

[fallow canopy]

you know what they say bLizzard amirite

[wanton remnant]

is dawnthread lining still the go to embellishment?\

[balmy condor]

All the embellishments kinda suck the same amount

Dawnthread is fine

There’s like 4 others that are fine too

[harsh gate]

hey guys, how can I track assa's bleeds on plater? Is there a weak aura or something related to this?

[jaunty sky]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

Turns out 500 stats is a lot better at 630 ilvl than at 720

Who woulda thunk

[thick sigil]

So when we replacing old(current) tier set tho?
Current 2-set is fucking atrocious tho..

[harsh gate]

I want to see only garrote rupture and tempest is there anything like that 😄

[spice surge]

Not having it scale with ilvl is certainly a decision

[limber swallow]

Use whispyr’s plater that is on the list above.

[harsh gate]

tyvm

[jaunty sky]

Ilvl is fine for the casual appeal, i think it should just be a static amount each season

[wanton remnant]

for in aoe outside of how we usually spread our bleeds, should we be tab targetting to others to spread as well? or just stick with the prio target or target ur already on?

[jaunty sky]

S1 its 100, s2 its 150, s3 its 300 or whatever the appropriate amounts are

[grim jay]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[grim jay]

There you go

[wanton remnant]

thank you

[harsh gate]

Is it possible to add it this way without taking the plater profile? Without changing the appearance of the plater?

[velvet mural]

so in lare aoe pulls we apply bleeds -> cds -> vanish -> envenom spam -> vanish to reapply bleeds?

oh 3 green leafheart messages in a row

ha ha fotm channel ha ha

[main bridge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[main bridge]

read it

[jaunty sky]

Yes but youll have to learn how to implement it yourself

[odd crater]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[peak helm]

If I wanted to plan to play Sub in raid and Ass in M+, thoughts on the best embellishment pair? Seems Sub wants elemental focusing lens, but that's not listed on the Ass guide as an option

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter

[velvet mural]

still dont know if its worth vanishing to reapply bleeds when mobs are like idk 35-40% or just keep vanish for next pull or smth

[spice surge]

Embellishments suck complete ass

[velvet mural]

ig ill figure it out later in game

[spice surge]

Pick whichever you prefer

[main bridge]

Not sure if you are aware but you do not need to be in stealth to apply bleeds

[velvet mural]

you cant reapply it to 8 targets without being stealthed

garrote has cd : D

[main bridge]

Rupture is a thing too

[rotund oak]

are u living in the same building as whispyr?

[spice surge]

The difference between embellishments are at worst 0.2%, and thats with both om them

[rotund oak]

[spice surge]

So it literally doesnt matter

[real pike]

Definitely worth it for massive SD funtimes

[spice surge]

Dont hit me with the cringe

Theyre worth not even 1% combined

[velvet mural]

ig its still very situational depending on how your tank plays etc

[fallow canopy]

I was homeless and he let me stay in his mansion until I got on my feet

[real pike]

Nah bigger number better

I shall accept no other opinion

[velvet mural]

valid

but it may result in doing zdps next pull

[peak helm]

No no, I'm cringing at them being so irrelevant not at you ha

[spice surge]

Ah mb mb

[peak helm]

np np

[real pike]

That's my secret Cap

I'm always doing zdps

[sleek ember]

sim github updated? I just need to see my parasite and min dps to prove Im S tier

[warm vortex]

Fun fact, Whispyr actually lives in kharazan

[main bridge]

Whispyr is Moroes confirmed

[rose inlet]

Is fatebound any good before new 4pc

[thorn fjord]

Morning sinners

Where them tasty s3 what we should be doing guides at

[jaunty sky]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[thorn fjord]

Week 1 is just RP shit no?

[humble verge]

wait

[thorn fjord]

Not rogue guide

[humble verge]

what raid trinket are we going for

is it the uh

araz ritual forge?

[fallow canopy]

the one with some purple tint in the art

[thorn fjord]

Like the week 1 week 2 week 3 ones… I forget who does them

[humble verge]

its the 4th boss

not bad

[pliant remnant]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1WwbpkS28CeZ7_lqqWLdumjZV7_kwJeGEUQ2O4dWenOc/mobilebasic

[humble verge]

@balmy condor WHY HAVE THEY NOT UPDATED BLOODMALLET YET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[rose inlet]

Forge for ds lily for fb

[thorn fjord]

There it is Ty Ty

[humble verge]

what?

oh nvm

[pliant remnant]

HOW DO I DO M0 WITHOUT BLOODMALLET BEING UPDATED REEEEEEEEEEE

[humble verge]

wait

[fallow canopy]

MAH GAINS TO DO THE WORLD TOUR NOOO THE HORROR

[humble verge]

which one is "lily"

[fallow canopy]

Eco dome

dungeon

[humble verge]

ohhhh

[pliant remnant]

Mastery on-use

[humble verge]

i overlooked it

[pliant remnant]

1min30

[humble verge]

eruyuy8e9yuewreuyhiwuiyhewruewh

yeye

[main bridge]

Hey don’t post my password in here

[warm vortex]

Omg your right

[granite sentinel]

anyone have full sheet?

[velvet mural]

thinking about trinkets from m+, do we want to run lily on deathstalker or farm arakara + peacemaker

[warm vortex]

Sim

[spice surge]

Lily aint great, probably priory if you want an on-use

[normal mist]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[mental flicker]

Lily is just FB ST, no?

[spice surge]

But both prism and forge are way better

[velvet mural]

yeah pug raider here so might take a while to get these

vault prayge

[warm vortex]

Haven't personally looked into the trinkets this season yet
I just shove things into the robot and do what it says

[normal mist]

Same

[jaunty sky]

Lily has more stats than priory no?

[mental flicker]

I took some significance in Whispyr baking it into the Opener sequence on wowhead for FB

[spice surge]

Idk havent checked, but that would surprise me since lily stinks

[pliant remnant]

Press Kill Command

[velvet mural]

was rogue the only class that dungeon slice seems fairly good

or im mistaken

[spice surge]

Idk raid trinkets are way better anyway

[warm vortex]

Holy hell!

Also this season we have to hold Bw

[fallow canopy]

I thought that thing was perma up these days

[pliant remnant]

Lily does give a bit more stats I'm pretty sure though yeh

[warm vortex]

It was in S2
But because of the 4set, we want to hold it sometimes and press smth else

So we can fit 2 beast summons into one lead from the front

[jaunty sky]

both a lot worse than raid still

[velvet mural]

signet ftw

longer duration and giving to allies B|

gotta grab that cyrces circlet

what were the gems we want to socket into it since it diasppeared from wowhead

[pliant remnant]

Stormbringer's, Fathomdweller's and Windsinger's IIRC

[velvet mural]

ty

[mental flicker]

Signet is 2 min and I gather the effective Cd on FB is 1:30, thus Lily over the 2 min trinks

[midnight atlas]

isnt ring from siren island nerfed to ground?

[normal mist]

Nerfed or not tuned yet?

[midnight atlas]

mispelled

[fallow canopy]

I mean no one escapes father time as they say

[midnight atlas]

forgot the name

circlet

[jaunty sky]

Its just outclassed for s3

[pliant remnant]

I presume he's getting it on an alt or summin

[jaunty sky]

In s2 it was beaten by myth ring in some setups

[golden loom]

I think fathomdwellers is getting nerfed for season 3

[warm vortex]

The ring fucking sucks

As in

[pliant remnant]

Devastating blow for season 3

[warm vortex]

The concept

[pliant remnant]

for uhh

Windwanker

Oh, actually, boomies seem to be using it still too

but fuck boomies anyway

[fallow canopy]

Damn my rat alt got fucked

[pliant remnant]

[velvet mural]

yeah fresh 80 so gotta get that ring

prob will stay with me for week 1

[warm vortex]

Sorry was me

[fallow canopy]

[velvet mural]

where can i get whispyrs plater? stumbled upon it and lost it

[fallow canopy]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[harsh anchor]

His wago page

[velvet mural]

ty

[harsh anchor]

o

[royal mauve]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[velvet mural]

!macros

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[grand trail]

what fatebound like with old tier set (before getting new one)

[velvet mural]

#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover] Garrote

can i make it so it uses garrote on current target if no mouseover?

[worldly nebula]

With araz forge do we delay using the trinket a couple of seconds or use as always?

[rigid tartan]

quick question about patchday, is it still possible to recraft 681 craft items after today? am on EU.. or do i have to put my embellishments on all the craft slots now to be flexible on raid week if I need to swap second embellishment onto a different slot?

[worldly nebula]

now

[jagged wind]

can someone say why there is elusiveness in the wowhead build over cheat death in m+ build

[pliant remnant]

IIRC you just add ";Garrote" after your Garrote in the macro

it's like an if/else clause

[rigid tartan]

to survive mechanics/aoe. Without it youd proc cheat death on high keys way more often than you can afford

[pliant remnant]

if you have a mouseover, it Garrotes, else normal Garrote

[worldly nebula]

think you can also put an empty bracket after the mouseover bracket

[velvet mural]

#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover][] Garrote

#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover][] Garrote;Garrote

both didnt work

[peak helm]

I think this but with Grrote?

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/cast [@mouseover, exists][@target, exists] Shadowstep

[coral ibex]

cheat death protects against mistakes, if you stop making mistakes then cheat does literally nothing

there are no one shots that you need cheat death to survive in m+

[mental flicker]

FB macros Cold Blood to Kingsbane

[velvet mural]

works, ty!

[jagged wind]

so basicly I can keep using CD at the start of season if I feal like. was jsut cahecking is there some new stuff that makes it better

[worldly nebula]

@balmy condor Have you done any testing on this?

[rigid tartan]

yeah especially in lower keys and at start Cheat Death will likely give you a better run through the early farm.. Elusiveness only useful if you know what you're doing and utilize it in high keys it really doesn't help with low keys anyway might as well have the safety net of cheat death to not die from not knowing stuff/not concentrating

[coral ibex]

i mean you just have to press defensives for elusiveness to be valuable

[hot jay]

Is fatebound going to be ahead of deathstalker right out of the box? Or is that only with the new tier since deathstalker tier is kinda whatever

For pure single target

[drowsy bone]

Still a pain in the ass to swap target in dual boss encounters as in season 1 and 2 ? Hated the DeathStalker debuff not swapping auto

[rose inlet]

apl uses it with kingsbane

[main bridge]

Probably don’t want to play DS if you need to swap

Subtlety would be better in that scenario too

[main bridge]

Seems like it. Whispyr has a new video on this

[drowsy bone]

Fatebound is that close to DS or is it better to swap to subtle?

[main bridge]

I havent seen any sim comparisons but I’ll just be playing sub

[hot jay]

I'm learning sub for this new raid for sure

Sub seems to have a possible lottery moment during cds

Can sometimes get 8 coup de grace instead of 4 or something (I think this is with the new 4p)

[indigo epoch]

What ilvl are heroic dungeons dropping now?

[hot jay]

But I'll still have assa in my wheelhouse for the bosses it may be good at

[naive crescent]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923898501529600/1402300975355789403/Dark_v2.jpg

[naive crescent]

fuu sauced on the new chart

[indigo epoch]

Ty

[wary vector]

Hopefully they do a level squish soon

At this pace we’ll be in the 4 digits soon

[midnight atlas]

i disabled damage numbers anyway

but true, damage/level squish should be implemented

[wary vector]

Helps me track my performance

[honest vector]

Lily is simming higher with FB now. W Whispyr

[raw marlin]

is bot back?

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[raw marlin]

hey bot

[honest vector]

(I wasn't ever getting araz anyway)

[raw marlin]

@marsh fjord you playing yet?

[harsh anchor]

I love seeing meaty envenom pops

[marsh fjord]

im eu bro

patch isnt out for me

[normal mist]

That's what details is made for

[wary vector]

Oh yeah this is what i was talking about

Did he mean damage numbers above mobs?

[normal mist]

Most likely

[raw marlin]

yeah i know, so am I.. I just liked to bully you

[marsh fjord]

Liked? that's past sentence bro

[hollow talon]

Are we fatebounding now

[small garnet]

god fuck i have too much mastery

[normal mist]

Yesnt

For more info check whispyr latest video or type ! fotm

[hollow talon]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[hollow talon]

Looks like it could be a forcedtoplaysubrogue.gif

[normal mist]

Ain't no one forcing me to play shit smh

[naive crescent]

My mom is forcing me to play assassination, she said something about "outlaw" and "dobby tier"? Idk she tweakin

[brave comet]

when it comes to next season's target switching, next season. since next season is a bit heavier on target switching

[humble verge]

lads

[brave comet]

would assassination rogue continue doing the same thing where you would cleave off the boss?

[humble verge]

does anyone know if its veteran or champion gear from non-bountiful delves

i guess u muricans are about to get pushed off the servers or nah

[golden loom]

champion from the higher level delves

[humble verge]

as in?

what lvl

[brave comet]

uwucutegirl you're an elite rogue

[golden loom]

past 4 I think?

[humble verge]

PAST 4

WASS

[brave comet]

what do you think is gonna happen next season

[humble verge]

jaja

imma do 11 anyways

[golden loom]

sec will check

[brave comet]

are we target switching or are we cleaving onto adds like this season?

[golden loom]

probably not swapping from target