its just small dmg optimization but youll get used to it
#assassination
buoyant herald
It does sound weird but those envenoms get to crazy numbers so the payoff is there
haughty flicker
its probably a larger gain next season with tier too no
lethal arrow
yeah itll be a fatter gain with new tier set
haughty flicker
buffed darkest night
marsh fjord
When you have lingering darkness up + darkest night. you just shiv + envenom and done
haughty flicker
giga envenom
small garnet
Yea tbh the weirder thing is what fs dh is doing casting fucking essbreak out of meta just for chaosstrike
Turbo doomed
marsh fjord
i did a 32 dry shiv on vexie
lethal arrow
yeah my highest on vexie was a 45m or something
umbral sigil
wth is a dry shiv
marsh fjord
if you see those numbers my peepee gets hard
lethal arrow
its a shiv with no cds attached to it
buoyant herald
I got a 42 on vexie
shy lily
Hi guys is there a deep guide of how to ASSA?
lethal arrow
no kingsbane/no deathmark
lethal arrow
Hi guys is there a deep guide of how to ASSA?
wowhead
kindred breach
Guys do we know if the one use for valorstone will disappear on release or no?
polar rampart
valorstones stay
kindred breach
since valorstones themselves doesnt anymore
polar rampart
so we can sit at cap
buoyant herald
I also got a spattered 16m on gally when his adds spawned and skyrocketed to the top of details 😂
marsh fjord
wth is a dry shiv
umbral sigil
you werent shivving in between KB cooldowns?
polar rampart
oh, i dont know if the on use ones disappear
lethal arrow
I also got a spattered 16m on gally when his adds spawned and skyrocketed to the...
welcome to padding
if you wanna pad on gallywix, you just hold cds for add spawns
kindred breach
Yeah i miss like 800 rn and wondering if im using the one use or farming them
marsh fjord
Yeah i miss like 800 rn and wondering if im using the one use or farming them
if you have 1200 you have more then enough
you wil lget so much valorstones
by doing content
lethal arrow
in fact the real gamer move is to hold cds for gallywix and then shiv off the lumbering rage
marsh fjord
also you can go to the renown vendors when patch go out
small garnet
So dry shivs will big time improve st
marsh fjord
you can get valor stones
small garnet
Do you only dry shiv in st
normal mist
So dry shivs will big time improve st
its a small optimization
marsh fjord
So dry shivs will big time improve st
numerically it's around 1%
marsh fjord
Do you only dry shiv in st
yes
small garnet
numerically it's around 1%
1% is better than 0%
small garnet
Still better than 0
lethal arrow
+dmg is dmg
small garnet
I need a 3rd dh spec idk how long i can keep going havoc for raid
small garnet
+dmg is dmg
Real
lethal arrow
you will always perform better than someone not doing it if you do it
so why not do it
marsh fjord
annoying part next tier is gonna be if you go DS on bosses. you DM - Shiv - Kingsbane
and if we are FB we do Shiv-DM-kingsbane
im gonna fuck it up 100%
lethal arrow
You'll get used to it
raw marlin
dw i fuck it up already
lethal arrow
esp if ur on a boss for a while
raw marlin
my keybinds on my mouse is middle left dm, middle mid shiv, middle right KB
I can just swap the keybinds up
haha
easy
swap with talent swap
marsh fjord
my keybinds on my mouse is middle left dm, middle mid shiv, middle right KB
what a gamer
lethal arrow
tbh i'd prefer they also buff DSM so i dont have to swap between bosses
but thats their decision to make
marsh fjord
tbh i'd prefer they also buff DSM so i dont have to swap between bosses
yeah same honestly im a old man
raw marlin
i wish they would make fatebound giga chad in m+
hearty reef
fateboundbros are we ready?
raw marlin
but the way whispyr explains it I know imma fuck it up when I play it on like 2-3 bosses the entire raid ever
hearty reef
runic hinge
Don’t let math wake you from the dream
hearty reef
burnt venture
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deft shore
Are we even playing fatebound before we get 4pc?
maiden sierra
Prob not
runic hinge
You’re probably not playing it on anything with adds at all
tight ginkgo
Don’t let math wake you from the dream
or marh. marh should also not wake you
lethal arrow
in fact we might end up only playing it on the tetris boss
cuz thats the only one with 0 adds 100%
marsh fjord
Are we even playing fatebound before we get 4pc?
you are
The power is not in the tier set
umbral sigil
Am I misunderstanding the wowhead write up or is there information somewhere else about Fatebound being "better" in ST?
marsh fjord
the power is in the buffs itself
lethal arrow
Am I misunderstanding the wowhead write up or is there information somewhere els...
whispyr has some youtube videos out abuot it
go watch them
marsh fjord
Numerically if there is 6 adds fatebound is dead.
it keeps getting worse up to 6 and at 6 the talent is dead
( i believe)
I thought it was 6% per add
and up to 30
distant helm
it is, at 6 targets the talent is nullified
maiden sierra
realisticly, we are prob playing fatebound on 3 maybe 4 bosses
haughty flicker
im playing fb on every boss
and any boss i cant im playing sub
no mark gaming for me
maiden sierra
based
honestly, i wish for that 1 talent rework so that fatebound would be king on all bosses
or at least, fatebound should be better at 1-4 targets in my opinion
marsh fjord
I think whispyr said if the boss has like 2/3 adds its still worth it.
or it might be worth it
opal mango
i have a question regarding Deathstalker hero talent
So i am in stealth and my next ambush should put a death mark on the enemy right? does this apply to mutilate too? because i heard that i dont need to put ambush on my action bars?
iron carbon
Mutilate is automatically changed to Ambush when you got a proc
But you still got your stealth bar
It only apply to Ambush btw
opal mango
wait as a rogue u have a stealth bar? i guess i dont see it in elvui
iron carbon
It automatically change your bar 1
balmy condor
elvui lets you turn off the action bar paging
opal mango
somehow it doesnt in my case, so i guess i will have to check on elvui
balmy condor
good chance it's off for you if you downloaded some preset
iron carbon
elvui lets you turn off the action bar paging
^
In my case, my 2 bars are the same, I just changed mutilate by ambush in the stealth one
You also can keep the stealth bar not activated and use a stance macro for mutilate/ Ambush
It should work
And good evening Whispyr! Thanks for uploading the guide, I'll try to check tomorrow
opal mango
You also can keep the stealth bar not activated and use a stance macro for mutil...
oh that sounds better - i will try to find it now and test it
iron carbon
Unfortunately, computer is off.
buoyant herald
welcome to padding
To be fair this was just good timing and unplanned (it was our first heroic kill) but yeah couldn’t have padded harder if I tried
frank trench
Huh I learned something new lol I use mutilate and ambush separate but I’m so used to it now
vapid terrace
Is fatebound going to be used ever in m+ or is it purely our ST and thats it?
balmy condor
if you're okay not doing any damage in aoe, fatebound is great in m+
buoyant herald
Very unlikely you play FB in keys except for funsies
frank trench
lol I’m not 100% sure I am even going to play fatebound even though I want it to be great :/
Unless it’s wildly more dmg for those 2 fights
vapid terrace
I haven't touched it at all, looking for the bare minimum over here lol
balmy condor
Unless it’s wildly more dmg for those 2 fights
it's around 10% ahead in pure st
frank trench
Well looks like I’m a fatebound single target player now 😄
maiden sierra
i think we need a pin saying dont play fatebound in m+ so people stop asking, but then again the people that ask these questions usually dont look at pins 
distant fog
FOTMMMMMMM
frank trench
Good thing I watched your entire video on how to play it
It looks cool and fun…..Shiv first, vanish after for three double flips seems like the gist
Dang it now I need to watch video again
oblique sorrel
Deathstalker dead or is it the set bonus?
normal mist
??
frank trench
lol what 😄
oblique sorrel
For sin now
normal mist
??
balmy condor
deathstalker is great
frank trench
Ty for updating the wowhead guide whispyr ❤️
normal mist
Where did this random info of deathstalker dead even came from?
balmy condor
np
haughty flicker
streamers were playing fatebound
oblique sorrel
The swap to fate bound
normal mist
LOL
balmy condor
The swap to fate bound
for like maybe half the fights in raid, yes
oblique sorrel
I’m high so I just threw it out there thank you for clarifying guys
maiden sierra
I’m high so I just threw it out there thank you for clarifying guys
hi high, im dad
oblique sorrel
😉
buoyant herald
Where did this random info of deathstalker dead even came from?
lol you fool things can only be gigabis OP or donkey-dead in the water
weary spear
Petko and zorthas tierlist has Assa S tier
oblique sorrel
I’ll take the former
balmy condor
lol you fool things can only be gigabis OP or donkey-dead in the water
water? 
weary spear
Guys are we in?
balmy condor
we're in a random tier list I guess, yeah
weary spear
Everyone basing tierlists off casuals stream
balmy condor
well you see
such is PTR
so what happens is one guy who's really good at something, plays with other people who are really good at something
pops off a couple times
and then someone makes a list
weary spear
Yeh lmao
weary spear
Honest question tho
balmy condor
based on that list
weary spear
Based on tier set power
Are we gonna be stronger in the first couple weeks comparitively to when other classes get tier
buoyant herald
I’m pretty sure someone did a tier list tier list as a joke a few patches ago
Quality content for sure
weary spear
I haven’t checked tier set dps % just see that it’s lower isn’t it?
balmy condor
yeh our tier sets kinda suck
oblique sorrel
I thought so
haughty flicker
I’m pretty sure someone did a tier list tier list as a joke a few patches ago
some of these content creators make so many tier lists you could do a tier list solely of their tier list
yoda tier list tier list when
oblique sorrel
That’s why all the buffs then
haughty flicker
thats why you just claim to be playing sub so you get given tier
weary spear
Outlaw alt going in the dumpster next season tbh
gilded bone
Hello guys i'm wondering if deathmark doubles the dots already applied to the target or if i should re-apply them under deathmark ?
umbral sigil
Hows sub looking? Id ask over there but those guys are stinky
raw marlin
Follow normal rules
raw marlin
Hows sub looking? Id ask over there but those guys are stinky
terrible
raw marlin
imma go tease them
lethal arrow
we are in fact a playable class and spec
haughty flicker
big if true
lethal arrow
they shuldv made the tier set just make darkest night have a chance to chain into more darkest nights
casino spec
raw marlin
they should just make the buff of mark
just be an aura to our fucking player
so i dont have to fucking stick daggers into one unlucky fool
marsh fjord
tier set should make the mark spread
Imagine
Darkstalker spreads mark around to 6 targets and evenom now finishes all darkstalker stacks on enemies
Don't let me cook
raw marlin
tier set should make the mark spread
Blizzard should add a new currency called Mythic Points and a Mythic Vendor from the Adventurers guild comes into any m+ dungeon instance, and they sell 1 time use items like
item 1 - 5% magic buff
item 2 - 1x CR
etc.. and that way, we can play whatever the fuck we want!
lethal arrow
yeah something like that
weary spear
I screenshotted in March
lethal arrow
i think blizzard should introduce a system thats lets you upgrade your skills by farming fragments off mobs
sweet plover
Has anyone done PTR testing using current gear and S2 tier set, using the new buffs etc.
marsh fjord
Has anyone done PTR testing using current gear and S2 tier set, using the new bu...
What does this even mean
lethal arrow
think hes trying to min max the short period where our gear will overlap
sweet plover
using current gear and tier but with new buffs to rogue
runic hinge
I screenshotted in March
It’s from may 2024 hehe
marsh fjord
using current gear and tier but with new buffs to rogue
oh no i think people on the PTR used the new gear pretty sure.
green dragon
Hiiiiii Thunda 😊
marsh fjord
but you can do the count yourself, you are just 13% stronger
frozen glacier
Guys should we preemptively start complaining about nerfs before they happen
runic hinge
No
sweet plover
Jinglez YOOOO
haughty flicker
we do that in sub channel not here
sweet plover
you playing the rogue s3?
green dragon
Yah
sweet plover
feeling nice in m+ on ptr
grim hornet
!fuu
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green dragon
feeling nice in m+ on ptr
Yeah I watched the streams seems like we can get invited to pug keys now 😂
sweet plover
It could be a sub angle for some raid bosses though, or just deal with DS
green dragon
It could be a sub angle for some raid bosses though, or just deal with DS
I am not looking forward to learning sub, I am a one trick pony haha... I tried outlaw and my M+ dam was dogkaka
frozen glacier
Blizzard: Rogues are top dps and now get easy invites too keys. This was not intended. -25% damage aura
lethal arrow
Yeah I watched the streams seems like we can get invited to pug keys now 😂
we've always been able to get invited to pug keys
just be top ilvl
raw marlin
Yeah I watched the streams seems like we can get invited to pug keys now 😂
link me the streamVODs? I cant find any lol
green dragon
we've always been able to get invited to pug keys
definitely felt harder at 15s mid season... 🙁 everyone wanted a boomy or a lust
raw marlin
definitely felt harder at 15s mid season... 🙁 everyone wanted a boomy or a lust
rogue doesnt have lust ... buff 25% all damage sources
green dragon
link me the streamVODs? I cant find any lol
Oh I watched petko's stream he just does general dps testing but you can get to watch all the top IO people in his groups quite regularly
raw marlin
Oh I watched petko's stream he just does general dps testing but you can get to ...
yh i meant i wanted to watch someone without a complete ass UI
with sin rogue specifically
shindigs has done some but his UI is on a mini-laptop or what?
thinkg casualaddict has left his DK behind
and finally back on rogue lol
anddddd hes on sub
lavish geyser
is it more important to have Envenom up for the full duration of my cooldowns, or to empower Darkest Night with Supercharger. was thinking in terms of the opener. like do I go, 2x rupture -> CT -> deathmark -> shiv -> kingsbane -> envenom
or 2x rupture -> CT -> envenom -> deathmark -> shiv -> kingsbane
marsh fjord
is it more important to have Envenom up for the full duration of my cooldowns, o...
Are you talking about m+ or ST
lavish geyser
Are you talking about m+ or ST
m+
runic hinge
You want envenom up before kb always
marsh fjord
m+
I mean the most important thing in the bleed build is to get your bleeds running and then DM. and you dont even have supercharger in the bleed build
or are you talking about hybrid
lavish geyser
marsh fjord
yeah your playing hybrid
digital venture
!fuu
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raw marlin
So all the recent streamers are just playing sub keys, is sub the meta or they just happen to be all testing it lol
spice surge
Based on key
thorny rain
lol
wild salmon
assa dead confirmed
fact
marsh fjord
assa dead confirmed
Based
raw marlin
i just wanna see a sin key lol
spice surge
Idk casuals been playing sin most of the evening
midnight mist
for weeks
haughty flicker
you dont get it
marsh fjord
i just wanna see a sin key lol
Go to his video of casual and look for a sin key
haughty flicker
i can only see what is immediately happening in this moment
when they were playing fatebound ds was dead
now they're playing sub so assa is dead
marsh fjord
Assa is dead
raw marlin
rogue is dead
earnest remnant
Idk casuals been playing sin most of the evening
im having him playing the Dslice build 
raw marlin
i mean sub was my first ever rogue spec, i love it.. so not even complaining lol
sub PVP pure 1 shots when its broken is mad fun
spice surge
im having him playing the Dslice build <:Cheesin:1004094333458317332>
Ye but hes still using rotten and storming 
lavish geyser
is there a way to gear assa and sub at the same time? like how much vers can assa use?
earnest remnant
Ye but hes still using rotten and storming <:garf:1320173032743899157>
yeh he wants rotten
marsh fjord
is there a way to gear assa and sub at the same time? like how much vers can ass...
You gear for sub because assa doesnt give a lot about secondaries
lavish geyser
You gear for sub because assa doesnt give a lot about secondaries
even in m+ as well?
spice surge
its nice QoL
I agree, but i see why the sim doesnt like it
earnest remnant
yeah
spice surge
Since unseen blades 2x does more than BP
marsh fjord
well if you play the bleed build haste is kinda nice for assa. but for the rest it's pretty close. we like crit. we like mastery. @lavish geyser
spice surge
So its like ye you end up using evis instead of BP which does less
But your builders do like 6x
marsh fjord
wrong channel eleem 😄
lavish geyser
well if you play the bleed build haste is kinda nice for assa. but for the rest...
great to hear.
spice surge
wrong channel eleem 😄
No 
buoyant herald
Get this propaganda out of here
runic hinge
Since unseen blades 2x does more than BP
Can I play dark brew
dusk crane
if I use a lower CB rupture does it replace the already fully CB one that's on the target or how does that work?
I know theres pandemic but like, how does it work when you mix / match combo points
runic hinge
What do you mean cb
haughty flicker
cp i assume
normal mist
yeah
haughty flicker
if I use a lower CB rupture does it replace the already fully CB one that's on t...
the new rupture will overwrite the old one
so dont do that
spice surge
Pandemic is based on the duration of the dot you are applying
haughty flicker
90s
marsh fjord
it's a on the bench spec
haughty flicker
with dances in between
haughty flicker
well prism is quite good for them
marsh fjord
i mean there is a very good 1:30 trinket
haughty flicker
since they dont care about losing value from lust on pull
digital venture
Silly random question, are the sims from the spreadsheet from !fuu the highest dps combination he managed to get or what's behind them?
marsh fjord
Silly random question, are the sims from the spreadsheet from !fuu the highest d...
They are not updated at the moment
so dont look at them
( for assa)
raw marlin
Silly random question, are the sims from the spreadsheet from !fuu the highest d...
nothing behind them
digital venture
I will not, I'm just curious if it's purely the best combination of items or something else
marsh fjord
Well its bis gear + the APL but the APL isn't finished atm
digital venture
I generally not chase after any "bis list" I just sim and pick what the sims tells me xD
subtle crown
!fuu
digital venture
aight thanks. but as I said was just curious, I tend to sim and just go with what gives me more
peak helm
bis list is all 5 tier pieces? that's interesting
runic hinge
Assa doesn’t have bad stats so why not
raw marlin
https://www.twitch.tv/shindigwow/clip/EntertainingBlitheYamEleGiggle-PRLDiEmIa80IrKkM
Sin isnt dead btw
confirmed
ez
sweet plover
lol
runic hinge
Twitch is such a dumb platform lol. Why does that link open the app just for it to open a webpage to play the clip
raw marlin
cant you just click 'play' in this discord?
runic hinge
No. At least not on mobile for me
marsh fjord
cant you just click 'play' in this discord?
were you genuinely worried assa was dead?? or trolling lol
visual sun
Its opening mine on the app via mobile
visual sun
Oh im clicking the link, not the thumbnail
dusk crane
what's your tell that you should revanish and ambush for fresh deathmark?
severe silo
Which spec looks most promising for raid?
normal mist
what's your tell that you should revanish and ambush for fresh deathmark?
You somehow lost your mark
normal mist
Which spec looks most promising for raid?
Ask again in a few weeks
dusk crane
so like using it but not getting another ambush proc?
normal mist
If you have mark going, you don't need to vanish and ambush
haughty flicker
theres no reason to vanish to reapply deathstalker mark unless it somehow falls off or you need to swap it immediately and you dont have dn up
raw marlin
were you genuinely worried assa was dead?? or trolling lol
trolling obv
dusk crane
so when would I want to vanish in ST?
normal mist
I'm sure the guides cover that
(I can't remember because I barely played rogue this season)
Just checked
You don't
There's no point to vanish in st because raid st builds aren't using imp garr nor MA
dusk crane
what bout in m+?
brave comet
I am guild free, time to look at the 50 thousand guilds that asked me to join in the past 2 months zzzz
normal mist
I wouldn't vanish in ST myself, just because you're only gaining imp garrote and MA to 1 target, and your st is low anyway. I'd save that vanish and apply it later on packs, but I'm not a +20 pusher
opal mango
Does someone have a video or text guide how assa rogue functions in m+ and how to deal with adds from pull to pull?
i am a bit confused 😂
So do I reapply rupture and garrote in a pull and do i apply it to every single add in a pull?
raw marlin
Does someone have a video or text guide how assa rogue functions in m+ and how t...
rupture yes, not all but 5+
candid sun
Or prio
weary spear
bis list is all 5 tier pieces? that's interesting
It’s usually like that for Assa
polar rampart
assa just likes stats
normal mist
Stats are good
dusk crane
Idk how everyone else does it, but i spread till i have 20 stacks of scent of blood then go ham on the main target with envonom
raw marlin
Idk how everyone else does it, but i spread till i have 20 stacks of scent of bl...
20?
dusk crane
20 stacks of scent of blood
normal mist
20%?
polar rampart
i think thats what he means
dusk crane
normal mist
Each rupture = 4%
polar rampart
thats 5 stacks, but yeah
normal mist
4x5=20
opal mango
Quick maths
dusk crane
so ya, i spread till i have 20% and then go ham on the big guy for envenom cleave damage
normal mist
Also garrote stuff during IC
dusk crane
^
opal mango
so i need to track the uptime on rupture on adds and reapply it manually?
normal mist
Outside of IC just on the main target
dusk crane
^
normal mist
so i need to track the uptime on rupture on adds and reapply it manually?
Yes, or just vanish and use IC
normal mist
🍪
opal mango
Does IC allow me to reapply Rupture in quick succession? I couldnt find the talent node but i noticed that i can spam it 😂
bronze python
Is this the most difficult rogue spec?
normal mist
No
bronze python
Is it the least difficult?
marsh fjord
There is something you can do on sin that you can't do on any other specs
laugh at your team mates when they die to mechanics
normal mist
Is it the least difficult?
Yes
bronze python
Can't you do that on all rogues though?
marsh fjord
Can't you do that on all rogues though?
nah on outlaw your to busy spamming 120 apm per minut
and on sub you gotta be a mathmician
bronze python
Ok I'm sold already
I can keep up with high APM fine, but accidentally pressing the wrong button while trying to ram my rotation down spellqueue's tiny window is annoying
marsh fjord
Sin is pretty low APM wise. but it feels very engaging imo
nova kelp
I could personally use more APM, but I agree it sits at an engaging level
I do love me some zoomer sin though
visual sun
Pretty sure outlaw players have them heartbeats per minute tracker beside their apm ala starcraft players
sweet plover
tbh, i would play outlaw more if it could main hand a dagger
keen spruce
I think that means you just don't like sin
cuz that was the most un-assas the spec has ever been
nova kelp
there's a massive gulf between outlaw apm and sin apm, you can like double sin and still be clear of reaching outlaw lol (exageration but still)
don't be up in here with "I like high apm"
"oh so you fucking HATE sin?"
lol
runic hinge
keen spruce
I mean, it's very intrinsic to the spec design
nova kelp
I love sin, but I wouldn't mind higher apm, but you even get higher apm with like the ma build as opposed to vv
you don't have to take every statement to it's extreme
you can just chill
it's allowed
nova kelp
maybe I could elaborate by saying I wouldn't mind having more energy to use
rather than perhaps imply that I mean filling baseline gcds with more ogcds (I too would dislike that if it went even a little bit too far)
normal mist
runic hinge
Assa is like 58 apm already. It’s barely dead
keen spruce
normal mist
What about a hug and a kiss
nova kelp
agasin you have more in the ma build
runic hinge
nova kelp
it's not like it's wild
runic hinge
Newest garf on the block
sweet plover
With fatebound, do we max cp our cold blooded envenoms or still stick with 5+
runic hinge
5+
candid sun
@nova kelp Your pfp is cursed
humble verge
nova kelp
according to the tier lists we instantly become the most broken class of all time in m+ as of log in tomorrow
according to reality we get like a 4% bump
idle radish
how
viscid spear
idle radish
a gajillion?
balmy condor
So you can do your heroic dungeons
balmy condor
As fast as possible
idle radish
whispyr i just want to reclear as the most OP spec tomorrow for vibes
marsh fjord
rate my wallpaper ( got made for me a while back)
its animated
but you dont see that
balmy condor
whispyr i just want to reclear as the most OP spec tomorrow for vibes
-100 aura
idle radish
amii crazy or is this not more than 13%
nova kelp
it's not a rogue so 4/10
viscid spear
whispyr i just want to reclear as the most OP spec tomorrow for vibes
You got a time machine?
idle radish
what does that even mean asshcat
marsh fjord
if you fotm rerolled to rogue
haughty flicker
you people
why does this read as a slur
idle radish
why does this read as a slur
becuz it was my intent
nova kelp
to clarify, to be perfectly fair, 4/10 is a perfect score for a non rogue
haughty flicker
go back to mage nerd 
idle radish
farts on Bel
haughty flicker
every channel in this discord is just a different flavor of cursed
fiery quartz
Do we stick with Deathstalker until 2 set? Or are we pure Fatebound players now?
balmy condor
Whatever sims higher for you when you’re going into the raid in 8 days
fiery quartz
Lit lmao
nova kelp
cringe response tbh
raw marlin
Whatever sims higher for you when you’re going into the raid in 8 days
but i dont wanna play mage
nova kelp
just give us all the answers whispyr
balmy condor
Iunno shit gang
nova kelp
better yet, could you just play my game while I do something worthwhile like grind in destiny 2 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
marsh fjord
I heard logging out on assa is the best DPS sim wise
balmy condor
I’ve been dealing with bimodal distributions all day, can’t figure it out for shit
marsh fjord
My raid leader asked me today how much % increase my 2p and 4p is
balmy condor
You don’t understand, he’s gotta know bro
marsh fjord
i told him
nova kelp
I feel like tons of guilds talk about 2/4p % gains and then just do the "everyone gets 2 piece prio" anyway
;so like whats the point
raw marlin
time to bench me
I was in a guild once who gave the one hander BIS from that specific raid to a resto shaman because it 'gave him more DPS' but I was like.. BUT HE IS A RESTO SHAMAN.. noone seemed to understand lol
nova kelp
you're just a selfish parse chaser obvs
marsh fjord
I was in a guild once who gave the one hander BIS from that specific raid to a r...
rip
raw marlin
that same guild then brought alt runs and were trading loot prio to main raiders, I needed that same weapon.. it dropped and got given to an alt DH or some crap and I was like.. 'hmm, isnt that mine this time' and they said 'yeah wtf' and then he instantly equipped it and left
bro it wasnt even a very good weapon lol
can't believe that guild died in that tier, could never of guessed
astral current
that same guild then brought alt runs and were trading loot prio to main raiders...
roaches are worst guildmates
same thing happened to me in s1, i was about to get void blade for outlaw but fucktard DH just rolled it
even despite the fact RL said "everyone pass"
hollow talon
where do i move my embellish craft to from boots? since we use boots from raid now
astral current
wrists
hollow talon
roger
raw marlin
also in SL slyvanus dagger dropped (was it personal loot still here?) And the ONLY rogue didn't loot the chest but he got caught on someones stream opening it but not looting it..
BRO literally STOLE his own fucking dagger hahahaah
hollow talon
raw marlin
he had to apologise to everyone
nova kelp
actually just FUCK the sylvanas dagger
nova kelp
even after months of farming in the tier like
I STILL never saw one until we got the fucking fated tier
stupid fucking bullshit fucking cock ass dagger
fuck personal loot
raw marlin
SL was personal loot yeah
yh so he opened chest, looks at it for like.. 30 seconds, then walks away.. doesn't say shit.. gets found out but the funniest thing is.. he is the only rogue so obv he would of got it lmfao
i played dh back then, no idea what that dagger does
idle radish
farts
peak helm
If I wanted to be able to do the damage as sub and ass both, the strat would be to priotize stat weights that sub cares about because assa probably is fine with that and doesn't care as much, yeah?
peak helm
Tight, though for a bit it's all ilvl anyway so w.e
raw marlin
you sub to the ass its tight.
peak helm
my dog just ate the ass out of my wife's panties so theres that
raw marlin
you dog just ate your wife's ass?
nova kelp
I absolutely needed to read that several times to properly understand
sonic lodge
If I wanted to be able to do the damage as sub and ass both, the strat would be ...
this may work properly?
nova kelp
noooooooooooooooo but my stat priority says...!
raw marlin
noooooooooooooooo but my stat priority says...!
talking of stat priority, is marvel rivals even good?
nova kelp
VERS LAST SO VERS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST FUCKING THING IN THE WORLD
hard river
my dog just ate the ass out of my wife's panties so theres that
let's be normal
nova kelp
I NEED TO AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS
sonic lodge
yh just gears for sub
gotta do that so i can actually do something in raid (after i learn sub properly once and for all)
marsh fjord
Assa dead
raw marlin
!commands
marsh fjord
confirmed
marsh fjord
@balmy condor where is command
raw marlin
!broken
marsh fjord
WTF
raw marlin
!wtf
sonic lodge
Guess the command was stolen
raw marlin
marsh fjord
Tadutadutadu
raw marlin
!whispyr
raw marlin
btw serious question
marsh fjord
oh no
raw marlin
is there a chill game to just throw on and afk play
like rivals? or something that isnt dog shit
marsh fjord
is there a chill game to just throw on and afk play
when i want to chill i play story games really
but you could play like maplestory
or the sims
nova kelp
just play expedition 33 and enjoy something for once
raw marlin
when i want to chill i play story games really
yh but i have loaded bg3 like 500 times, i just want to have stream on in background and semi-afk play
marsh fjord
yh but i have loaded bg3 like 500 times, i just want to have stream on in backgr...
can play mobile games
raw marlin
expedition 33 requires reading?
marsh fjord
on a emulator
marsh fjord
just play expedition 33 and enjoy something for once
i actually cried 3 times on that game
sonic lodge
yh but i have loaded bg3 like 500 times, i just want to have stream on in backgr...
bush simulator
marsh fjord
no cap
sonic lodge
bush simulator
(jk)
raw marlin
I was going to get death stranding
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> where is command
moroes died
nova kelp
literal GOAT that game
marsh fjord
death stranding is not a chill game
nova kelp
actual GOAT
marsh fjord
you gotta pay attention to death stranding
nova kelp
expedition 33 is god tier
marsh fjord
gotta press 2 keybinds constantly
raw marlin
expedition 33 is god tier
is it just a poor mans bg3?
marsh fjord
to not fall over
nova kelp
it does require reading, it's not chill, but you won't want it to be once you start
betterr than bg3 by a long margin imo
raw marlin
rimworld is a good afk game
marsh fjord
rimworld is a good afk game
rimming is also chill
nova kelp
cant' rim if your wife has no ass after the dog ate it
marsh fjord
LMAO
nova kelp
it is the sin disc though, someone might volunteer tbh
marsh fjord
sin disc is diabolic
we dont even have commands in here
@raw marlin you rekt the commands
marsh fjord
marsh fjord
https://tenor.com/view/dumb-porpoise-i%27m-stupid-dumb-idiot-moment-porpoise-gif...
me when i get two set
raw marlin
<@268843601935597573> you rekt the commands
no it wasn't it was.... @normal mist
raw marlin
what patch?
marsh fjord
patch dn
raw marlin
bro what patch
marsh fjord
the patch on big old forehead
raw marlin
the ass patch in the knickers?
raw marlin
can i complete expedotionas 33 in 1 ady?
nova kelp
if you play e33, you will probably just forgo the first week of the patch and keep playing
nova kelp
and your guild will be like "wtf dude"
marsh fjord
but this week there is nothing to do anyway
nova kelp
the good thing about e33 is whenever someone asks you "if you could play 1 game for the first time again, what would it be?"
you'll have an answer for the rest of your life
marsh fjord
Yeah that game was really beautifull
i genuinely cried
a few times
also the music
chef kiss
and i always mute the music in my games
marsh fjord
so good
nova kelp
fuck me up
marsh fjord
what about when you fight the guy who can change himself i forgot his name
sterile swallow
the good thing about e33 is whenever someone asks you "if you could play 1 game ...
That is Disco Elysium for me forever. E33 did not hit me like others.
marsh fjord
like thats also a banger
nova kelp
That is Disco Elysium for me forever. E33 did not hit me like others.
you mention DE, I won't argue with you sir
raw marlin
the good thing about e33 is whenever someone asks you "if you could play 1 game ...
yh it would be KOTOR
I never bought DE3 because of the whole.. publisher fucking up the guy who made it
what about battlefield 6?
wait that is october fuck sake
vast pond
nova kelp
actually, if you want a game you can take super super casually that's just a blast and log off
40k darktide is fucking banger
raw marlin
DCUniverserve online or Star Trek online?
raw marlin
i can glorp again
wtf is a glorp
haughty flicker
marsh fjord
wtf is a glorp
lock in
raw marlin
bro making weird noises in his mouth?
slate crown
wtf is a glorp
BRUH
haughty flicker
raw marlin
Can I glorp?
ember mural
balmy condor
balmy condor
nop
raw marlin
!stillbroken
balmy condor
cause bot will be dead until fuu restarts it
bronze pike
!startdigginginyourbutttwin
raw marlin
lets all wet fart with @haughty flicker
raw marlin
so...
nova kelp
raw marlin
if my dog shits on someones chest, is it my fault?
marsh fjord
yes it is
haughty flicker
marsh fjord
whispyr is to nice
marsh fjord
its because of his brocillie headset
proven willow
actually, if you want a game you can take super super casually that's just a bla...
warhammer mentioned
marsh fjord
@proven willow we dont have a fotm command anymore
balmy condor
its because of his brocillie headset
does bro not know how to spell broccoli
marsh fjord
its ruined
marsh fjord
does bro not know how to spell broccoli
nah im from EU
SHADOW FLAMING MY LANGAUGE???
nova kelp
does bro not know how to spell broccoli
but are you a "brock o lee" or a "brock o lie" person?
proven willow
<@232305529081298945> we dont have a fotm command anymore
why are you tagging me
sus
balmy condor
my guy you weren't even close 
balmy condor
but are you a "brock o lee" or a "brock o lie" person?
I didn't know brock o lie was an option, those people are freaks what
proven willow
Mash lee
raw marlin
i painted my rogue by painted i mean typed into chatgpt
marsh fjord
But do you guys know bloemkool tho?
raw marlin
SHADOW FLAMING MY LANGAUGE???
you absolute carrert head
marsh fjord
i painted my rogue by painted i mean typed into chatgpt
this is kinda bad ass
balmy condor
nice, grats on the small lake you boiled to get some mid-ass generic AI art
nova kelp
i painted my rogue by painted i mean typed into chatgpt
human... MALE?
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy
or are you just desperate for more SHOULDER in your life?
marsh fjord
On a serious note how much % that the APL is fixed and we get some sims going before patch hits whispyr
proven willow
thats so true, i hope AI boils all the fresh water
waxen oyster
i painted my rogue by painted i mean typed into chatgpt
biggest boomer self report
human rogue in bloodfang
raw marlin
nice, grats on the small lake you boiled to get some mid-ass generic AI art
bro if a lake cant deal with its own temperature that is the lakes problem, not mine
slate crown
thats so true, i hope AI boils all the fresh water
I offer my blood as tribute remove me from this mortal coil
balmy condor
On a serious note how much % that the APL is fixed and we get some sims going be...
before the patch hits? literally 0, raidbots is down for maint until the servers come up
raw marlin
or are you just desperate for more SHOULDER in your life?
no idea i dont even use this set in game lol
marsh fjord
before the patch hits? literally 0, raidbots is down for maint until the servers...
rip
raw marlin
biggest boomer self report
hahaha.. imma wear it now ingame
marsh fjord
before the weekend??
balmy condor
100%
marsh fjord
cool
nova kelp
the weekend? isn't he that singer guy?
raw marlin
bro its tuesday
marsh fjord
Thanks brocollie man
proven willow
I offer my blood as tribute remove me from this mortal coil
mortal coil is deep
balmy condor
I'm dedicating to pushing something out before NA servers come up so there will be something available when raidbots comes back from maint
marsh fjord
I'm dedicating to pushing something out before NA servers come up so there will ...
big man
balmy condor
chance of you having a breakdown over the distribution issue?
bro I'm kms
raw marlin
I'm dedicating to pushing something out before NA servers come up so there will ...
NA will be stuck on normal dungeons for a while anyway so no rush
balmy condor
this the type of shit I'm dealing with rn
trying to figure out
the stupid bimodel issue
proven willow
NaN(i)
nova kelp
gota brace ourselves for
"i have 33% crit do I need more haste? sim tells me vers"
raw marlin
this the type of shit I'm dealing with rn
rogue dead
balmy condor
earnest remnant
"some"
marsh fjord
just press enter bro
raw marlin
what is the best stat weight if i want to use one button rotation?
marsh fjord
and its all fixed
marsh fjord
what is the best stat weight if i want to use one button rotation?
bro at that point its best to just unistall
esp because its you
main bridge
Bro is taking about stat weights in 2025
raw marlin
bro at that point its best to just unistall
unistall?
main bridge
Insane
marsh fjord
bro still using pawn
proven willow
anyone ever wonder what wow will look like in 2040
nova kelp
honest to god, I reckon that when the 1 button came out, a bunch of decent guilds probably had a direct dps increase overnight
meanwhile they're ALL in their chats like
"OHOHOHOHOHOHOH 1 BUTTUN LULS"
marsh fjord
anyone ever wonder what wow will look like in 2040
and i know your watching max his stream
proven willow
i just woke up im streamless atm
marsh fjord
WOOOHOOO
proven willow
is max worth tuning into
balmy condor
generally not
proven willow
that sounds terrible ill pass
if we dont have wow 2 by now what are the odds we get it tho
its been a hot minute
nova kelp
race for world last is unironically more fun ot watch than world first
marsh fjord
What are they even gonna do after last titan bro
slate crown
wtf does wow 2 even mean
marsh fjord
azeroth is dead byh then
proven willow
21 year old game that is still alive is crazy work
marsh fjord
wow 2 with new engine
raw marlin
numbers would be like 105 in 2040
marsh fjord
everything is spaghetti code now
nova kelp
but... what about my mount collection...
marsh fjord
numbers would be like 105 in 2040
you are 93 bro
raw marlin
92
slate crown
that's the thing tho everything is always spaghetti
marsh fjord
that's the thing tho everything is always spaghetti
yeah but we need to have some red sauce
you know what i mean
proven willow
they make so much money why would they want another game
marsh fjord
who
raw marlin
i feel like the RIOT mmo is a big farce bro
this.
torpid schooner
So are we pumping boys
vital flicker
so are we FoTM now? is there going to be a flood of people asking how to play sin?
marsh fjord
so are we FoTM now? is there going to be a flood of people asking how to play si...
Wrong discord bro
gotta go to the warlock discord
vital flicker
I have just watched a bunch tier lists over the last few days that all list sin in the top 3 specs and I honestly don't want to deal with that kind of heat
marsh fjord
- tierlist are bad to look at.
- assa is good in m+ we have a good damage profile and do ton of aoe damage ( ST still sucks) also good funnel
- our ST is mediocore at the moment in raid
proven willow
^
stark halo
torpid schooner
So assasination isnt worth playing in the raid?
marsh fjord
So assasination isnt worth playing in the raid?
Worth is subjective
you are not top 100 so play what you enjoy
proven willow
top fitty
onyx coyote
question about 11.2 is the difference in damage between fatebound/deathstalker enough to not stay deathstalker if that is what i'm used to?
marsh fjord
question about 11.2 is the difference in damage between fatebound/deathstalker e...
on ST bosses you will play fatebound
if you care about optimization. DS is still fine to play if you want that
thorny swift
on ST bosses you will play fatebound
what percentages are we talking?
marsh fjord
what percentages are we talking?
% on what?
thorny swift
damage difference between Fatebound and DS on ST
onyx coyote
it is entirely passive?
worldly nebula
10-15% ish I think
marsh fjord
it is entirely passive?
i would suggest watching the FB video that whispyr made
marsh fjord
10-15% ish I think
DS alwayt ssims way lower then its intended to
vital flicker
FB will also need a 1.5min trinket to be better tahn DS iirc
marsh fjord
so we dont know
marsh fjord
FB will also need a 1.5min trinket to be better tahn DS iirc
there is a good 1.30 trinket
thorny swift
I'd be happy to have some variance in hero talents
onyx coyote
cool ty i'll check it out
thorny swift
sucks to "have options" but not really
marsh fjord
@balmy condor ive already send 20 people to your video how much is my cut
vital flicker
there is a good 1.30 trinket
there are a few 1.5min trinkets, but then there is a really insanely overtuned 2min trinket
marsh fjord
there are a few 1.5min trinkets, but then there is a really insanely overtuned 2...
yes.
worldly nebula
That Thing will eat a nerf
marsh fjord
it already eaten a 20% nerf
halcyon saddle
Or buff the 1.5 min trinket
wanton remnant
hello fellow rogue friends. was wondering if anyone could point me in the firection of some good weak auras and macros to use for assasination in keys and raid
worldly nebula
Vs 40k main stat
main bridge
!wa
main bridge
RIP bot
thorny swift
F
worldly nebula
I wouldn't be surprised to see double on use viable for FB
marsh fjord
We wont double on use
worldly nebula
Especially with the dmg Amp bosses
marsh fjord
it's the feather trinket
worldly nebula
I know
main bridge
sub angle
thorny swift
ew, sub
worldly nebula
As I said
idle radish
!wa
worldly nebula
I wouldn't be surprised given how op forge is
To still use it on FB
And potentially double on use
Especially on the bosses with dmg amps
marsh fjord
I wouldn't be surprised given how op forge is
the thing is. you just have 1 minut downtime on that trinket. if that's worth it. then yes but who knows at the moment
idle radish
np
marsh fjord
Bot is down
surreal flare
damnit
marsh fjord
**Rogue Spreadsheet - [Light Version](<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/...
.
@surreal flare
potent lance
assassin rogue on top
marsh fjord
whats a assasin rogue?
nova kelp
the truth is noone knows
the amount of times I've thrown a distract in a key and left the entire group absolutely fucking baffled is crazy
barely anyone ever gets to group with rogues
wanton nest
during opener is only time we can get 2 teas in kingsbane right
balmy condor
I mean
You can do whatever you want with tea
But if you have it macro’d to shiv like a normal person then yes
runic hinge
You can’t actually
haughty flicker
barren yarrow
soooo sin rogue = not great for raid or we dont care
main bridge
don't care i will play sub
haughty flicker
ew
main bridge
lots of damage amps in this raid
balmy condor
soooo sin rogue = not great for raid or we dont care
Sin rogue is great what
cursive root
sin rogue is fotm
hexed root
we dont know how sin rogue is yet, the final numbers aren't out yet
waxen oyster
I mean if you dont raid hof it literally doesnt matter what you play
and i mean actual like top 50 hof not sneak in overtiming night before reset hof
balmy condor
and i mean actual like top 50 hof not sneak in overtiming night before reset hof
You can say elusive
proven willow
I mean if you dont raid hof it literally doesnt matter what you play
people wanna feel elite by playing stronk spec
proven willow
exactly u just described average discord chatter
balmy condor
Play stronk spec so you can be top dps while your guild wipes to a Druid failing a mechanic 100 times in a row
proven willow
play stronk spec just to have raid night cancelled from roster boss
balmy condor
What about play stronk spec for 3 weeks
And then tuning happens
And it’s marginally less stronk than before
waxen oyster
When was the last time playing assa actually hindered prog
balmy condor
But you reroll anyway
waxen oyster
for most ce raiders
balmy condor
When was the last time playing assa actually hindered prog
Idk but I progged smolderon on assa and that worked out fine