#assassination

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winged sun
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so i posted a pic

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idk why get mad about it

hard river
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you can send fatebound details as outlaw and i would be like hell yea brother. dont worry i support fatebound supremacy

spice spire
solar wyvern
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Yeah i was just being extreme, i just think its not a problem to be "annoying" and assert your ideas in a confident way when youre passionate about stuff but some people feel that way which is fine ig.

runic hinge
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hey get in line

marble hemlock
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ye, like schmeeps posted a bit earlier, the problem atm is that its not the first time things started this way, and then never had any fruitful followup.

round vapor
marble hemlock
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have you considered that?

winged sun
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like im not trying to say like yo im the m+ pusher and ur all wrong, i think everyone has his own valid points + can be wrong too including me

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fatebound just did good dmg in my run and the run was smooth

winged sun
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nothing really went wrong so i decided to post it since it has potential especially after kb fix

solar wyvern
keen spruce
marble hemlock
winged sun
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with all due respect i dont think im wrong here for posting a details screenshot on fatebound being good

earnest remnant
marble hemlock
round vapor
marble hemlock
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ye, i think "handful" is a bit of an understatement

frozen glacier
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what in tarnation is going on in here today

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wheres the garfs

coral ibex
solar wyvern
runic hinge
nova aspen
marble hemlock
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but like, legit, no one is gonna be upset about you wanting to contribute more and cook more, but it needs to be handled in a way that isnt gonna annoy/piss off the person who will likely be handling most if not all of the load of codifying it into the APL. so if you wanna cook, not just for yourself, but to the benefit of more people, you kinda gotta find a way to work together, no?

tight ginkgo
coral ibex
visual sun
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!upgrade

light mountain
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
marble hemlock
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and if you just wanna cook for yourself, why post about it in a public discord

visual sun
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anyone got the ilvl chart for s3?

obsidian halo
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How does rogue/assa currently look compared to other classes

runic hinge
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with its eyes

coral ibex
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we appear to wear leather armor and wield daggers

earnest remnant
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its got daggers and shit

obsidian halo
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I regret everything

frozen glacier
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what the hell man @coral ibex has them premium garfs

hard river
marble hemlock
runic hinge
coral ibex
runic hinge
marble hemlock
runic hinge
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REAL

cyan epoch
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The tier set looks like a mortal kombat character

marsh fjord
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anyone else gonna do 10's when season 3 hits to get full vault

cyan epoch
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so looking pretty good

coral ibex
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i'm never doing m+ again i will gear for mythic raid via delves exclusively

frozen glacier
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big brain

winged sun
# marble hemlock but like, legit, no one is gonna be upset about you wanting to contribute more a...

thats exactly what im doing tho im trying to work together, saying that im the M+ pusher and i have ego because i play M+ when i never mentioned any of this btw in an ego way, i dont think im wrong at all here im sure you'd agree that i dont have to be a theorycrafter and post sims when its ptr and its not even sim viable right now because its "ptr", posting a simple screenshot on this build doing very well in a run that went well in ptr is not wrong no matter what

hard river
marble hemlock
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m+ is cringe, idk why anyone would ever wanna spend 10+ hours a day in there, for weeks on end garf

winged sun
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crashing out about it and 10 people slamming me with msg's for 2 hours is kinda amazing

winged sun
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im trying to work together as you said

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and contribute

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thats why i posted the screenshot

coral ibex
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so true, so true

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seli's posts to truth ratio is 100%

marble hemlock
winged sun
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whatever u say dude

main bridge
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bro is taking the PirateSoftware approach to criticism

hidden torrent
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LOL

coral ibex
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its crazy to say you have no ego when yesterday you were saying people who do 10's shouldn't even count for balancing

hidden torrent
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that response

winged sun
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half this chat always behaves this way

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cringe 24/7

hidden torrent
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man playing the victim now, love it

nocturne quail
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bro people mad becasue they do tank dam in keys and then they see a real player overall and they get mad

trim raptor
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Bro zeross youre the most obnoxious person in this channel my god

marsh fjord
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I think this never get solved talking about this in a discord full of people with different opinions

earnest remnant
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lets just ehm

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not make this anymore fckingc childish than it already is

main bridge
earnest remnant
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and not make it personal against eachother yeh

harsh anchor
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I only do +10s my input means nothing

marble hemlock
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yeah i dont think theres any solution here, tbh

earnest remnant
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or ill have to order multiple bahamas trips

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and im very busy playing urf right now and would rather not

marsh fjord
marble hemlock
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like, i could respond further, but i dont think its gonna go anywhere sadly. which really is a shame.

coral ibex
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the bahamas are beautiful this time of year

runic hinge
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I will never play urf again

marble hemlock
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lets go back to being homoerotic with one another @spice spire

marsh fjord
coral ibex
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i gotta get back there one day

earnest remnant
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its random i aint got a choice

marsh fjord
bitter trout
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Racoon man laying the law down?

keen spruce
marsh fjord
earnest remnant
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it was karthus 3 games in a row

marble hemlock
marsh fjord
spice spire
keen spruce
golden loom
tight ginkgo
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back to gachiblacksmithing like the good lord intended

marsh fjord
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i just want season to start again so i can spam @golden loom again with logs

marble hemlock
marsh fjord
golden loom
keen spruce
tight ginkgo
normal mist
gaunt sigil
red schooner
golden loom
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I need the season to start so I can do more gaming

spice spire
marble hemlock
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imagine playing wow

marble hemlock
coral ibex
red schooner
coral ibex
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wait do people actually launch wow via icon

red schooner
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All that lasagna? Straight to the void

coral ibex
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doesn't that make you log in in the game client

keen spruce
lean plover
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to the point it disappears

keen spruce
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pure conservation of energy

lean plover
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no poop needed, just efficient gastric acid

keen spruce
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all lasagna gets converted to energy and heat

coral ibex
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garf is perfectly evolved to consume lasagna

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0% waste

marsh fjord
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@marble hemlock i saw you were also playing wuchang, you finished it already?

coral ibex
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100% conversion to energy

marble hemlock
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okay i tried to google "does garfield have a butthole" but that didnt exactly get me the kind of information (or images, rather), that i was hoping for

lean plover
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garfield may be, in fact, the most energy efficient being in history

marsh fjord
marble hemlock
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1h sword

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but not magic

marsh fjord
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feathering?

marble hemlock
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ye

marsh fjord
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cooool im doing dual swords with leech

marble hemlock
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well i played frostbite stuff

marsh fjord
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and clash

marble hemlock
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until i got the zhenwu sword

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and then full feathering, ye

golden loom
marsh fjord
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you gonna do ng+?

marble hemlock
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nah

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long weekend ahead of me with guides and proofreading and stuff

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and then its RWF prep etc.

marsh fjord
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Ahhh kinda cool game tho. would rate it 8/10

marble hemlock
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ye definitely one of the soulslikes that more closely hits the high notes of exploration and area design of DeS and DS1

coral ibex
marble hemlock
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but not without its issues either

marsh fjord
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Yeah. did you also struggle with act 1 final boss?

marble hemlock
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the eyecandy was nice too ofc

lean plover
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oh seli u do rwf?

marble hemlock
harsh anchor
marsh fjord
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Most people did lol

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took me around 40 tries i think

marble hemlock
quartz relic
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@winged sun my love, I don't care about your ego, I care about the compilations, at the end of the day I'll only see what the top players are playing, I don't care if they have egos or not, I liked your compilation without a garrote, I hope the 2 hero talent options are good.

lean plover
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aah i see, cool stuff anyway

marble hemlock
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lets not reheat this please

lean plover
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agreed

marble hemlock
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it took garfields butthole to change the topic last time, itll only get worse from here

lean plover
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lets go back to homosexual behaviour with complete strangers pls

golden loom
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RWF nexus king is gonna be complete cinema

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Cant wait

winged sun
round vapor
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Seliathan peered into the abyss a moment ago. Heed their warning.

marsh fjord
lean plover
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btw i know optional boss is needed for hof, but is it needed for rwf?

winged sun
golden loom
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Yeah rfw is about being first guild in HoF

marble hemlock
marsh fjord
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max was talking a few weeks ago if this boss would be to hard they would skip it. but now they can't anymore

winged sun
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back in uldir in bfa, liquid (originally limit), made the mistake of extending

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its easy to kill earlier bosses unless the boss ends up being giga overtuned

marsh fjord
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nobody will ever extend anymore after that.

lean plover
marsh fjord
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Gear is way to important for that

winged sun
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afaik in ptr testing it was giga easy but all bosses were undertuned to be killed anyway

marsh fjord
winged sun
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thats why they may kill the boss

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it drops a tier set

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shoulder i think right?

lean plover
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yes shoulders

marsh fjord
lean plover
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but im sure they can kill any boss with 4 less mythic items

marsh fjord
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so they will def kill it.

marsh fjord
lean plover
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well it will be based on how hard is the boss tbf

winged sun
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ye, i mean on ptr testing the boss was mechanically easy

lean plover
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if its 5 pulls for sure they go

winged sun
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we'll see tho what happens on live

marsh fjord
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PTR testing everything is undertuned.

lean plover
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if its 300....hell no

winged sun
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oh also

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i think

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it was one of the bosses where we 1 shotted it

marsh fjord
winged sun
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yea prob

marsh fjord
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if something hits very hard but mechanics easy still pretty hard

winged sun
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it was the 3 demon boss i think right?

marsh fjord
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Yeah

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You get chained to 3 people

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or 2 i mean

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your the 3th

winged sun
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ye it was giga easy mechanically but idk how the tuning will be

marsh fjord
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i dont think that boss will be a huge problem.

winged sun
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they'll prob change few mechanics as usual

marsh fjord
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won't take more then 50 pulls i reckon

winged sun
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usually the mechanics are very close to ptr

winged sun
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like 10-20 for liquid

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quite basic mechanics idk why tho

marsh fjord
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But nowadays it's so hard to know how they tune the raid.

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undermine was extremely easy

winged sun
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ya

marsh fjord
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2000 guilds have CE

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last time that happend was CN

winged sun
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ye i mean for sure we cant know if its an easy raid or not

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but that boss specifically was the easiest one on ptr

marsh fjord
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I honestly really dislike what happend in undermine. i want the CE boss to be the hardest boss out of them all. but then there is mugzee

winged sun
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easier than 1st boss aswell

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it was honestly a 1st boss level of difficulty

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soak charge dodge few things and boss dead

marsh fjord
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haha yeah doesnt sound to bad

golden loom
winged sun
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ya enrage looked abit hard actually

golden loom
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yeah I have high hopes for the raid

winged sun
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ye it for sure wont be same as undermine

golden loom
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but even past that I just wanna fkin grind early season

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wanna gear rogue/dh/warrior

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like this tier I just cba'd playing alts

winged sun
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as much as we meme on blizzard alot but

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blizzard never fucks up 2 raids in a row

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legit never

golden loom
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with all the random stuff coming out and didnt play early on them

winged sun
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blizzard's been always rly good with designing raids

marsh fjord
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CN was easy, but after CN there was Sanctum of domination

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which was hard af

winged sun
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CN was goated, sepulcher was goated too

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ye sod kinda sucked ngl

golden loom
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like I am actually such a fan of the theme idk

royal lantern
marsh fjord
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Also im not biased towards any guild but if the raid is harder mostly echo takes the win.

winged sun
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they lost alot of ppl this tier

marsh fjord
marsh fjord
winged sun
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its literally impossible for echo to win this tier

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if they do ngl they 10000% deserve it

lavish hazel
golden loom
marsh fjord
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It's method or liquid i think

lavish hazel
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liquid 1 method 2 echo 3 imo

golden loom
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nah echo is still more likely than method

winged sun
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ye method or liquid but method prob not ready yet

marsh fjord
winged sun
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idk but i think method > echo atm

golden loom
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yeah for sure

marsh fjord
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Yeah same

winged sun
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echo is prob a disaster rn

golden loom
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the core of echo is still there though

pliant remnant
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Stay in the slipstream

winged sun
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they prob know that and its prob gonna affect them psychologically

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losing that many players in 1 tier is gonna take a big hit

lean plover
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how many did they lose?

marsh fjord
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do you guys remember the uunat race

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with pieces

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that was peak content

winged sun
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clickz i think too?

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idk

marsh fjord
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Method also has zealia despite what happend i think he is the best healer in the world

winged sun
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oh yea lmao

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that'll be crazy to watch

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hes so good at the game

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rly cool to see him back

marsh fjord
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You saw so much a difference echo with zealia and without zealia

winged sun
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hope things go well with him

golden loom
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To win a race you need problem solvers tho

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And not just good players

winged sun
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ya

marsh fjord
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scripe also said that it was a huge problem with healers this tier

winged sun
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u need actual gamers

golden loom
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That roger brown fella is so fkin smart

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And meeres is insane

winged sun
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echo lost their race at mugzee

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for obvious reasons

marsh fjord
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Noggie is also insanely smart

golden loom
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Like tanking at rwf lvl while raidleading a big part

winged sun
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they could've easily won the race with better dpsers

marsh fjord
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but hes in method now

golden loom
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Is so fkin insane

winged sun
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cool guy i pushed with him alot this season

marsh fjord
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i dont know i really dont think echo surpasses method this tier but who knows.

winged sun
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very smart

marsh fjord
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i think method is gonna even overtake liquid

winged sun
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big M+ problem solver

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like

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when we pushed m+

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whenever we had any issue

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he solved it for us

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he knew how to solve things that are like

marsh fjord
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Do you know whats funny me and some friends boosted narcolies on his alt in a 12. and he did more DPS then us kekman

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he was 20 IL below us

winged sun
marsh fjord
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Dont want to make excuses but it was a top 😄

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and he was playing ret 😄

winged sun
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i still remember narcolies healing ghuun mythic

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in rwf

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he didnt even know beacon of light existed on holy paladin

marsh fjord
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Holy ghuun thats a throwback

winged sun
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until they killed the boss

marsh fjord
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HAHAHa what the hell

winged sun
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absolutely demonic day

marsh fjord
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I remember that the dog boss was so overtuned that tier

winged sun
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ya

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that was his first time speccing to holy

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in his life i think

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officers were like

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narcolies

marsh fjord
winged sun
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our healer cant come tonight

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so we need you on holy

marsh fjord
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But what a gigachad tho

winged sun
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they still won

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no beacon of light kill OMEGA

marsh fjord
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i would just say, hello im in a tunnel my connection is breaking out

deft shard
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grand trail
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so much reading, what a day to be alive

frank trench
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So dumb question, would it make sense to put a focus on every ability but rupture so I could set primary target as focus and pump everything into death marks but still tab target ruptures?

indigo mulch
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Wait the kb bug is still not fixed? O.o i thought it was doing decent damage for fatebound. D:

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I really should just make a weakaura to check it next time ._."

thorn fjord
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
obtuse robin
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kb not even working right yet

brittle shuttle
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whats the talent set being played on PTR rn in m+?

spice surge
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Standard bleed

brittle shuttle
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damn even for big keys?

spice surge
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Yes

robust pulsar
brittle shuttle
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im confused what changes made bleed build stronger than cleave? i thought CT nerf and envenom buffs would have the opposite effect

runic hinge
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they buffed rupture and garrote and they also had aura buffed before they nerfed CT so it's actually not that much weaker

upbeat otter
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does the bleed build want different stats than mastery>crit?

main bridge
frank trench
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My colorblindness makes me lose my mouse cursor super easy and I end up jamming rupture into the same target over and over so trying to do the inverse or when I’m not trying to I’ll accidentally to be moused over lol

main bridge
frank trench
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I use the super awesome cursor weakaura that turns my cursor purple when my target is in shadowstep range

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I’ll try that though

real pike
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Just saw the latest tuning, am I gonna be playing FB next season?

robust skiff
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Hey all. I’ve recently reembraced my rogue heritage and am loving it. I’m wondering about the viability or status of pickpocket these days. It used to be fun and worth while. Are there any fun pick pocket farms or activities in the current expansion? Also wondering if anyone can recommend a macro so that it automatically pick pockets before an attack?

harsh anchor
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There’s the wax you can get from the candle people

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Replaces whetstones

golden loom
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but also worse than whetstones

prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

red schooner
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Wait, why do we have a FOTM command? Did a big streamer put us in S tier or something uglyassdog

spice surge
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Something like that ye

real pike
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If I have to play FB in raid I'm going to be mildly disappointed

real pike
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Maybe even moderately

dreamy rover
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i found rogue tag

real pike
marsh fjord
rotund oak
dreamy rover
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^ this is sub rn

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no one fucking knows blizzard is unstable

real pike
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I'm already sandbagging by playing this useless class

rotund oak
spice surge
marsh fjord
real pike
spice surge
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But idk think sub is really solid for raid and probably good in keys

rotund oak
dreamy rover
marsh fjord
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If you don't play in top 100 it really doenst matter what you play. but i understand the statement that you want to do the best DPS. but just play what you enjoy brother

dreamy rover
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was life not kind to you today?

spice surge
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Ill play sub anyway, i like it

real pike
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I do enjoy rogue dw but I also enjoy the sweet taste of success and we want to push for top 500

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But it's finding a balance fo sho

rotund oak
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Same i think ill try it although dragonflight progress xperience was awful,couldnt parse at all in that guild

marsh fjord
real pike
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Also we have a new rogue that's kinda decent so every little helps in that regard

real pike
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But ye tuning can always change so we'll have to see

marsh fjord
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but if there are adds anywhere in a boss you will revert to DS

real pike
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Exciting times

marsh fjord
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It's not that different

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it's mostly passive

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You go to 1:30 spec and you use coldblood

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thats it

real pike
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Having the option to go 1.30 is actually lovely

dreamy rover
marsh fjord
dreamy rover
real pike
dreamy rover
bitter trout
real pike
marsh fjord
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Also sub is looking really good for those amps

real pike
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Also and possibly more importantly I sucked balls at it

marsh fjord
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B ut i will always tell people to play what you enjoy

dreamy rover
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I smashed my head against my keyboard until i got decent at it

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was hard though

marsh fjord
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And you macro CB so you dont even look at it.

dreamy rover
real pike
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That's same as assa really

solar wyvern
marsh fjord
winged sun
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hopefully the kb change changes things

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it'll feel alot smoother in m+

slow snow
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Have you tested the pure poison/prio build in m+ yet with the KB changes?

marsh fjord
slow snow
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Unlucky!

robust skiff
tough gorge
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does seem like with how fatebound wants kingsbane obviously, maybe we get 2 different m+ styles. fatebound cleave vs DS bleed

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DS bleed will win tho

marsh fjord
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So yes if fatebound is very strong i can be taken in m+ but DS has to suck so much for that to happen i feel like.

maiden sierra
subtle kiln
balmy condor
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fatebound could be good in mythic+ but unless there's a way to leverage the single target, it's difficult

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deathstalker has legit 3 talents that don't even activate unless there's multiple targets

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while fatebound is just doing less and less as you add more

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so like in theory the coins could caustic like crazy, the bigger the aoe the less impactful it actually gets

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which is just a brutal gap to overcome

marsh fjord
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I actually hate design like that.

balmy condor
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and idk how one would go about finding a way to bridge that

maiden sierra
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so what youre saying

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its the outlaw build

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5 target max

marsh fjord
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Bleed with DS is just better atm

balmy condor
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like this talent simply doesn't exist anymore

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if you have 6 targets

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completely removes itself

chrome mirage
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How strong is our tier bonus compared to other zenith users

maiden sierra
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that is such a cooked talent

chrome mirage
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And how can I convince my raid leader to funnel to me

balmy condor
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which makes it hard when the alternative is like "your crimson tempest does a billion% more damage"

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and "you're giga funneling a gabornilion dps back into your primary target"

maiden sierra
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blizz employes are honestly a different type of breed of humans for coming up with talents like that OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
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like how do you keep up with that

marsh fjord
chrome mirage
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monk war lizard

spice surge
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Turns out singular focus is good when its number gets to like 13%

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Who woulda thunk

balmy condor
marsh fjord
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singular was doing 10% of my damage in a 17 ara kara earlier.

balmy condor
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with the tier its just crazy

spice surge
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Mastery double dip goes crazy

balmy condor
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you get infinite prio for free and deathstalker has enough AoE tools for both hero talents combined

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so it's just like what the hell are we doing

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flip a coin kaboom you just did 75% of an envenom

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versus literally every AoE talent known to man

marsh fjord
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I think it been a major mistake on blizzard side to add talents to hero talents that are focused on ST/aoe

balmy condor
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I think that's fine actually, but deathstalker and fatebound just take it to insane extremes

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like this choice node

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is legit just

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fok+ct damage

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or fok+ct damage

wooden star
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I don't think that's the issue it's the opportunity cost they associate with it. Like give us cool shit to focus on St or AOE but don't make it feel bad to actually take them

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It's just weird

balmy condor
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singular focus and that choice node and arguably clear the witnesses is 0dps in single target

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but deathstalker is still competitive with fatebound in single target, especially with m+ builds

wooden star
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Exactly

balmy condor
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so like you're playing half a hero talent and keeping up in single target

#

deathstalker just crushes when you get to aoe idk

#

how does fatebound ever hope to keep up

wooden star
#

But fate bound is the opposite like you said

balmy condor
#

it would have to be so silly overtuned

marsh fjord
#

if you have hero talents with one focus on ST and the other one on AOE. you are 99% of the time forced to take the aoe hero talents in m+ and mythic raids otherwise

#

You don't really have a choice i feel like

#

If those talents dissapear from fatebound

#

you can actually play fatebound

crystal knot
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
marsh fjord
#

but now you get punished by going fatebound in m+

#

which i think is bad design

balmy condor
#

the fact that the hero talent balance between deathstalker has a full 12%+ swing from single target to 3 target

#

is diabolical

marsh fjord
#

Yeah thats what i mean

balmy condor
#

and idk how blizzard expects people to actually theorycraft this even

#

like fatebounds self-nerf and deathstalkers aoe-enabling

solar wyvern
balmy condor
#

is so insane that I'm convinced you could route a dungeon differently

solar wyvern
#

(yes its bad)

balmy condor
#

and it would just change the balance

haughty flicker
#

we bacc

solar wyvern
#

LOL

bitter trout
balmy condor
#

like fatebound in rookery or something would be so much better than throwing fatebound into halls of atonement

haughty flicker
#

no shot triple fatebound HOLY

wooden star
#

"alright guys we have whispyr on FB sin this run. Pull three mobs at a time ez in time"

solar wyvern
balmy condor
#

but even then like if you're pugging your weekly key and your tank is scared and pulling small

wooden star
#

Not wrong

balmy condor
#

maybe fatebound is better then

#

but then you do like a +19 with an ego tank that triple pulls

#

and fatebound is shit

cloud basin
#

As long as i get to play fatebound in raid this tier we good😂

balmy condor
#

how do you combat any of that

solar wyvern
#

Yeah no it absolutely sucks ass in big pulls

#

Like unfathomably bad

#

but on bosses

#

not too shabby lowkey

jaunty sky
#

run balance and whatever the 2nd best mass aoe spec is

wooden star
#

When does it actually lose. 4 targets? 3?

solar wyvern
#

also you would not believe the talents i played

balmy condor
# solar wyvern not too shabby lowkey

yah after the buffs, coin is like 18% damage in single target or something, and in 6 target aoe you lose a full 30% of that, so you're just flat out down 6% of your overall just for existing, which then also hurts your spatter by that amount cause the coin isn't doing damage anymore

#

it's legit like talenting into kingsbane and then not pressing it in aoe

#

I don't get it

solar wyvern
#

this and this

#

with this

#

cursed

balmy condor
#

okay hear me out though

#

do you remember amirdrassil cleave

#

how much did your CT do

solar wyvern
#

yea thats what i played for

haughty flicker
#

coin>ct

balmy condor
#

KEKW what if you just sack CT

haughty flicker
solar wyvern
#

thought about it

#

but for what?

balmy condor
#

get rid of spike/dashing to go into scent

#

go through shrouded

#

get imp gar idk

solar wyvern
#

cant

#

im gated

jaunty sky
#

sanguine gaming

balmy condor
#

hm

solar wyvern
#

still gated

maiden sierra
#

ARE WE COOKING???

#

🔥

golden loom
#

for more ST

haughty flicker
solar wyvern
#

1/2 sanguine worth it over sbs? i dont think so

balmy condor
#

hm?

#

but then like you would just take carnage

#

idk

#

1/2 scent but no way to spread

#

W

jaunty sky
#

rupture spreading without scent is what the overlords intented wdym

solar wyvern
#

yeah what id id was 3 ruptures then fan envenom LOL

jaunty sky
#

you gotta set up your dmg

balmy condor
#

I mean this seems at least a little reasonable

#

or this

#

and you just shiv on cd or something

runic hinge
#

why do we need zoldy and AP so badly in this? JW

balmy condor
#

zoldy and ap are large talents

#

right side sucks for single target

#

but fatebound is all single target

maiden sierra
#

why not drop sanguine?

balmy condor
#

for what

runic hinge
#

I see, so we're playing for ST with this

maiden sierra
#

good question

balmy condor
#

realistically it's either the double shiv or MA

#

both of which seem kinda meh

maiden sierra
#

vv instead of saguine

balmy condor
#

I mean MA on fatebound is pretty solid cause you're flipping like a mfer

#

during cds

#

but it also doesn't really like up with CDS

#

so I think just not vanishing with DM and using it for bleeds is fine

solar wyvern
marsh fjord
balmy condor
#

yah but who cares though right

#

you're playing fatebound

#

scent ain't saving you

solar wyvern
#

Truth

balmy condor
#

if you're gonna play fatebound might as well just say fuck it and fully lean into throwing away your aoe

#

zold/AP props it up a bit though

#

like it's not fully gone and dead

golden loom
#

at that point fk it

maiden sierra
#

ive cooked

golden loom
#

play raid build

balmy condor
#

on fatebound no less

spice surge
#

Fatebound doesnt really like vv

balmy condor
#

the thing that doesn't buff VV

maiden sierra
#

the lasagna is burned

spice surge
#

And benefits a lot from more finishers, which vv works against garf_sit

balmy condor
#

Rob, I would like to pronounce you OOGA but you already did

maiden sierra
#

i wont lie

#

i dont know what fatebound does

bronze pike
maiden sierra
#

never read any of it

balmy condor
#

you flip a coin on finisher

#

and the coin either is basically a free envenom worth of damage

runic hinge
balmy condor
#

or an aura buff

#

and during CDS you get both buffs at the same time in large amount

fair coyote
balmy condor
#

and that's it

#

that's the whole tree

balmy condor
runic hinge
#

top, i like double shiv with extra kb time imo

balmy condor
#

bet you didn't know that

balmy condor
#

that's that visual polish

#

that blizzard's known for

#

can't make it do AoE for shit

haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

but if you ever need to know 3/4 of the cardinal directions

#

fatebound has you covered

dreamy rover
#

i love whisper

balmy condor
#

hear me out though right

#

what if

#

instead of fatebound

fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

you play deathstalker, and you press shiv, and your darkest night is a 96% envenom buff that guarantees a crit

#

and you're just happy

#

could be the move

runic hinge
#

me hate mark

fallow canopy
#

poor Mark

balmy condor
#

mark's a good guy

#

he's just misunderstood

maiden sierra
#

ok guys

#

i got a new cook

dreamy rover
#

show

maiden sierra
#

reroll dk

balmy condor
#

okay okay

dreamy rover
#

come on

balmy condor
#

I'm vibing with it

maiden sierra
#

(i think i did the talents wrong)

balmy condor
#

big fan of whatever that thing in the bottom left is

haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

I would say the blue one

#

but that doesn't narrow it down much

maiden sierra
haughty flicker
#

You mean cold blood of course

royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

My favorite talent

balmy condor
#

no

#

this one

#

the other blue one

haughty flicker
#

That's uh

#

Hm

balmy condor
#

blue?

normal mist
#

Oh the blue one!!!

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

Yeah I think so

balmy condor
#

I see

maiden sierra
#

lets play a game

limber swallow
#

looks kinda like a marble.

balmy condor
#

frost pilalr

#

like trundle

#

from hit video game

dreamy rover
#

hey whispyr, can you help me with a question i have?

void mesa
#

Long Winter, yeah. It changed spot 😮

spare kayak
#

any doomers in the chat? rogue is bye bye next patch right?

balmy condor
#

league of legends

maiden sierra
#

i post an image of a talent, ytou guys guess its name by apperence

normal mist
#

I might play arams in a few minutes

golden loom
maiden sierra
flat pier
#

Sorry why would we only take 2set for fart bound and not the 4 ?

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

Actually the icon kinda looks like that frost velkoz skin

main bridge
#

fart bound

dreamy rover
# balmy condor I can

so, what skill are we buffing exactly with CB? Because from what im understanding, CB still crits on only 1 skill but now its not a permanent buff

haughty flicker
#

Or was it a blue infernal chroma

#

Idk

balmy condor
maiden sierra
#

i wish i was Ambessa R'd IRL

fallow canopy
flat pier
#

ahh ok

balmy condor
#

in practice you macro cold blood to kingsbane and move on with your life

#

macro -> envenom twice during kingsnbane which you were going to anyway -> repeat 45s later

dreamy rover
maiden sierra
dreamy rover
#

perfect, tyvm for helping me whispyr

fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

so kb 45s and cold blood 45s

#

and cold blood envenom matching the last flip

#

which was the edge-flip

dreamy rover
#

yhea

balmy condor
#

so you get 2 more edge flip

fallow canopy
#

we just edge a lot

balmy condor
#

so you flip the flippy when flip

dreamy rover
balmy condor
#

flip

#

big fan of edging

dreamy rover
#

dude im actually lol'ing here

balmy condor
#

fatebound the gooner hero talent fr

dreamy rover
#

LMAO

dreamy rover
#

dude the thug hotline was actual gooner shit

#

favorite trinket in game rn

balmy condor
#

yeah dude, fatebound with thug hotline

dreamy rover
#

call in the goon squad

balmy condor
#

so you can summon the goon squad while you edge

#

dynamic combo

#

"inevitable end" -> me when my gf won't stop

#

it's all making sense

maiden sierra
#

GF???

dreamy rover
#

STOP

#

💀

maiden sierra
#

YOURE CHEATING ON ME???

fallow canopy
flat pier
#

So this season is looking like 4set Death for cleave and M+ and 2set Fate for single

dreamy rover
balmy condor
#

my girl be giving me the hand of fate the way our fate intertwined when I got my edge case

#

she be hittin that mean streak until the fateful ending

#

ong

dreamy rover
#

I THOUGHT we were going to CB into KB to get infinite kingsbane crits 💀

maiden sierra
flat pier
#

Just bring back Shadow clone

balmy condor
flat pier
dreamy rover
#

+5 bugs to all rogue specs instantly

maiden sierra
#

father whispyr

#

may i have a sneak peak at the bis list for your wowhead guide

dreamy rover
maiden sierra
#

i need it to spread missinformation

dreamy rover
balmy condor
#

oh boy a ban!

#

!ban @sage pelican spam

dreamy rover
#

LMAO

#

haahahahhaahah

uncut barn
#

Wait

flat pier
#

Kings bane > shadow clone > Coldblood> death from above . Give me all the keybinds back

uncut barn
#

Bring that back I want free Mr beast bitcoin

#

I was looking at that

bitter trout
#

Wait

#

I missed it

#

Wtf

#

BRING BACK MR BEAST

fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

I'll show you

bitter trout
#

Whispyr taking all the Me beast coins for himself

dreamy rover
#

Mr Least

fallow canopy
#

its right there

flat pier
maiden sierra
dreamy rover
#

fake mr beast dude

#

wtf

bitter trout
balmy condor
#

sorry need to find the time

dreamy rover
balmy condor
#

the time to sort through

#

these fucking tabs

bitter trout
#

Error101

maiden sierra
#

dont worry

fallow canopy
maiden sierra
#

i have 100+ tabs as well on my phone

balmy condor
#

it's like this every season when I'm writing guides btw

#

very normal

dreamy rover
balmy condor
#

it's not that I keep a billion tabs open

#

it's that I need a billion tabs of items

#

cause I have to link to a bunch of items and icons and stuff

dreamy rover
#

oh shit

proven willow
#

why dont u just separate the tabs

balmy condor
dreamy rover
#

how much % of the 11.2 guide have you done already?

maiden sierra
flat pier
#

Early peak HOLY

balmy condor
#

we are fatebound players

maiden sierra
#

ah i see mb mb

bitter trout
#

This bis list is kinda sus

balmy condor
#

also yes that is just the backend code of the current BiS list and the forge trinket in S tier and nothing else

bitter trout
#

Doesn’t seem very bis

orchid cedar
#

any raid simulations aviable?

balmy condor
#

no

orchid cedar
#

🙁 Assa looking good?

fresh kelp
#

jumpscare

proven willow
prisma monolithBOT
#

FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

orchid cedar
#

no fotm i was here since the start, but will all the bugs and changes i don't now how the class stands anymore

proven willow
#

likely story

flat pier
#

You lads think the Shadow step bug will be gone for 2nd boss by the time the patch goes live kekw ?

balmy condor
#

Yeah you and me both

wooden star
#

Any raid data ATM is very useless as there has been way too much tuning since then and testing was a little scuffed anyway

fallow canopy
#

I just know I'm gonna be edging

marsh fjord
orchid cedar
#

hows the dmg profile or AOE vs single target?

proven willow
balmy condor
#

Boomkin in my guild linked a sim after the tier nerf and said “it’s over” and I just looked at it and sighed cause it’s still higher than anything I have

flat pier
#

If End boss doesn't have us Stepping off the map then what's the point

tight ginkgo
balmy condor
#

There’s specs simming like <5

marsh fjord
#

Whispyr do you know how likely we would get 2p over the other zenith tier users?

balmy condor
#

And specs that are simming like 6.5

marsh fjord
#

If only DPS% is used

balmy condor
#

Literally just random shots in the dark

uncut barn
#

Huge rogue buffs after the race trvst

wooden star
#

Yeah warlock looks nuts in sims

#

But who really knows

maiden sierra
#

oh shit THE RACE IS ON I FORGOT

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

Deathstalker I would assume probably below average chance

maiden sierra
#

RACE TO WORLD LAST!!!

balmy condor
#

Fatebound maybe above average

orchid cedar
#

there are no tests done in the ptr?

tight ginkgo
#

kb fix hasnt been pushed yet, right?

balmy condor
wooden star
#

There was raid testing but it was almost a month ago now?

balmy condor
#

Which is to say, completely useless data now

wooden star
#

So yeah

spice surge
#

Pretend youre playing sub to minmax tier gain

haughty flicker
#

Real

balmy condor
#

Fatebound assa has gained like uhhh

maiden sierra
#

im loot banned this tier because i took week 1 a bis ring over a tier piece

balmy condor
#

21%? Since raid testing

haughty flicker
fallow canopy
maiden sierra
tight ginkgo
#

ah so the simc doesnt have the kb fix live either? or is that able to be fixed independent of the patch data

balmy condor
#

It’s okay, the legendary cloak got buffed by a combined 176%

#

So we have some room upwards

balmy condor
tight ginkgo
#

Hah classic

balmy condor
#

Notably on sims is that anything publicly available right now doesn’t have logic for 1:30, and the cold blood fix needs to be coded manually so that’s not in sims yet either

maiden sierra
#

the bug wont be fixed wont it

balmy condor
#

All the buffs are in though

prisma cypress
#

how much would goonbound need to outperform deathstalker on ST to justify play on non-ST fights

balmy condor
haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

And I think it might be the move for the last boss even

#

Which would be sick

#

But we obviously don’t know what the hell that fight looks like

#

So we’ll see

#

But it didn’t seem like adds

golden loom
maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

I didn’t see any

#

The only models in the dungeon journal are for the p2 adds

maiden sierra
#

i swear max explained p1 as if there were adds to grip left and right

balmy condor
#

Or the intermission or whatever

golden loom
#

theres some adds after the flying part but seems to be big boy adds

#

or during the flying?

#

who knows

#

hopefully it has less adds than gally

wheat tiger
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
golden loom
#

FUCK GALLY 💯

tight ginkgo
#

wait so it is p1 boss p2 adds p3 boss? holy shit is dimensius ansurek HOLY

haughty flicker
#

Big boy adds you kamikaze bomb after flying

maiden sierra
#

honestly i cant wait for day 1 world first mythic dimensious kill by hackers (again)

tight ginkgo
#

and is ansurek raszageth?

haughty flicker
#

Do 5% per person if they do the mechanic while flying so theoretically you don't actually hit them?

balmy condor
#

which they cannot do

#

obviously

#

right

#

....right?

maiden sierra
#

suuurely

tight ginkgo
haughty flicker
#

Hack to fly right to dimensius using dragon riding

maiden sierra
#

cant wait to kill dimensious with the xalatath feet macro on my screen

tight ginkgo
#

special action button to not be distracted by her feet

maiden sierra
#

/run if not xalfr then xalfr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) xalfr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(512, 512) xalac = xalfr:CreateActor() xalac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end xalac:SetAnimation(1138) xalac:SetPosition(2,0,0)

dreamy rover
#

you gotta be fucking with me

#

does this work?

maiden sierra
#

this is the edging macro

maiden sierra
#

did an entire key with it

dreamy rover
#

opening wow now to test it.

maiden sierra
dreamy rover
#

this is egregious behavior

fallow canopy
#

Fatebound main behavior smh my hips

dreamy rover
#

youre fucking joking

#

this is INSANE

maiden sierra
#

this is the way

dreamy rover
#

lmao

dreamy rover
#

hey @balmy condor you have to add the new sin macro to !macro

#

/run if not xalfr then xalfr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) xalfr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(512, 512) xalac = xalfr:CreateActor() xalac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end xalac:SetAnimation(1138) xalac:SetPosition(2,0,0)

#

this one

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

balmy condor
#

yeah I was using that during raid testing

#

W macro

dreamy rover
#

crazy work

pure moth
#

Whats it do?

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

puts xalatath feet at the top of your screen

#

like the screenshot from david if you scroll up a lil

pure moth
#

Oh

golden loom
#

freaks!

covert jewel
dreamy rover
#

yhea this is crazy work

proven willow
#

ong feet are gross

balmy condor
#

there's also no anti-macro to turn it off as far as I know

maiden sierra
#

how salty do you think xalatath feet soles taste like?

balmy condor
#

so you gotta relog

#

to clear it

gritty laurel
#

does reloading not do it even? that's fantastic

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

oh does it

#

I thought it persisted

#

okay well then yeah do that

maiden sierra
#

it persists through any loading screen but /reload

gritty laurel
#

i'm absolutely dropping that on my guild during prog

balmy condor
#

whack

golden loom
#

it doesnt work on classic sadly

maiden sierra
#

well classic is missing the id numbers

#

for the assets

golden loom
#

thats why retail is better

maiden sierra
#

you could prob get any characters feet macrod if you tried

golden loom
#

hmm /run if not jainafr then jainafr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) jainafr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(512, 512) jainac = jainafr:CreateActor() jainac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end jainac:SetAnimation(1138) jainac:SetPosition(2,0,0)

maiden sierra
#

we need a tester (im not online)

golden loom
#

tried it on classic and that gave me a lua error

#

logging into retail now sec

gleaming geyser
gritty laurel
#

need those patchwerk feet

golden loom
#

lua error on retail aswell garf

maiden sierra
#

wack

fallow canopy
golden loom
#

oh shit

maiden sierra
#

youre using the same model id

bronze marsh
#

does sudden demise damage convert with singular focus

golden loom
maiden sierra
#

try this id im curiouse 77396