assassination

[proven willow]

yeah always arms warrior

[harsh anchor]

It's always at the end when the bio of the author is printed.

[balmy condor]

seeing that much pink just reminds me of the stupid prot bug where it sucked off a party member to do like 900 bajillion hps

[thorn thorn]

I would love to M raid but im a work slave so I have effectively one reasonable day a week to raid

[harsh anchor]

Read the WHOLE guide or you ain't it

[thorn thorn]

I saw logs of this happening, its very funny

[tight ginkgo]

i do not have the mental fortitude to ever be happy with juggernaut

[thorn thorn]

Occasionally people would just lose millions of hp from the prot pal stealing it

[strange sleet]

ANd you liked all iterations of arms warrior over the last 18 years? That's super weird sry bro

[gritty laurel]

damn i had to step away but wombat just cooked like he's got a rat in his hat

[royal lantern]

i loved prot paladins taking dmg, draining 60% of my HP and then a random targetet hit just kills me 0,3sec later :3

[proven willow]

some are better than others, warrior is a bland class overall it never had insane reworks besides 2

thats also why i play alts into myth track

[balmy condor]

bro I got an angel on my left shoulder telling me to do good, a devil on my right shoulder telling me to be evil, and a rat on my head teachin me how to cook

[royal lantern]

i mean, i was OK with most versions of assa in the last 18years lol

[proven willow]

game makes it easy af

[kind flint]

Mortal Strike, Mortal Strike, Mortal Strike

[marsh fjord]

Im gonna ask a clueless qeustion. the daggers that drop from the raid that are agi can they also be int based? for casters? or is it only for us?

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

[crystal bay]

same, in 18 years what I most hated of assa are the hero talents we have now lol

[harsh anchor]

I liked the stupidly hasted bfa sin in s4

[royal lantern]

? ofc they are agi only daggers

[runic hinge]

It’s me the rat

[haughty flicker]

big fan

[kind flint]

Came straight off the dome

[tight ginkgo]

i have a raccoon on my head telling me how to play sub

[marsh fjord]

Thanks. im the only rogue in my guild and i was wondering if it drops someone can takei t from me ( casters) i dont know bro 😄

[royal lantern]

i mean, SL launch assa exists lol

that spec felt barely functional

[balmy condor]

I have a hack for this

[marsh fjord]

whats the hack bro

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/items/weapons/daggers?filter=82;2;110200

database with daggers yeh?

[marsh fjord]

Yes

[balmy condor]

if you hover and they say int, they don't drop for rogue, but drop for casters

if they say agi, they only drop for rogue

[marsh fjord]

Cool thanks

[harsh anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[marsh fjord]

Was a dumb ass qeustion thanks for answering

[balmy condor]

if they for some reason say [agility or intellect] then they drop for both

[crystal bay]

I mean yeah, but it was mostly a number tuning issue not a QoL issue

[marsh fjord]

ty goat

[balmy condor]

np

[dawn pollen]

there are no dumb questions

[royal lantern]

nah, SnD with no CttC lol

[balmy condor]

okay that's a fucking lie

[marsh fjord]

there are 😄

[balmy condor]

but this one wasn't dumb

[dawn pollen]

xD

guys cmon

[strange sleet]

Guys how many hours do you have total at wow? Some of you smell like 10k+?

[tight ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[royal lantern]

you where legit endlessly circleling trought appling bleeds->apply SnD->apply Bleeds->apply SnD with 0 dmg

[tight ginkgo]

this is a dumb question

[harsh anchor]

I miss pressing SnD

[marsh fjord]

i dont know how much but it's def above 10K+

[haughty flicker]

finally the bleed spec of my dreams

[royal lantern]

i wont check

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna check but it's really low cause I'm not an m+ fiend

[haughty flicker]

ask @radiant raven next time you see him

[balmy condor]

m+ fienders rack up an insane amount of hours

[royal lantern]

i miss the time before you said that

[nova kelp]

I have 1100 mounts. I think thats enough of a guage

[royal lantern]

depleting 17 keys in a row takes time allright

[balmy condor]

I guess I'm at 10k hours

[strange sleet]

That's just the rogue yeah?

[balmy condor]

well yeah I don't play anything else

[haughty flicker]

i lost all of my time /played from before bfa when i transfered my characters to this account

rip my 10k

[harsh anchor]

Facts, I lost my first rogue from classic to wod

had to start fresh in bfa 🙁

[nova kelp]

You don't have 10k hours SINCE BFA? Casual

[haughty flicker]

i'll check but i dont think i do

[strange sleet]

Have you guys ever stopped playing wow for more than a year?

[harsh anchor]

yes, in legion

[proven willow]

you can smell my hours for sure i have 7 accounts merged into 1 from when bnet came out for the most unhinged reason imaginable

[proven willow]

missing the best xpac is crazy

[haughty flicker]

i do long breaks followed by long periods of time playing

[vapid terrace]

I sold my 1st account at end of wotlk, got married n stuff. So im slowly grinding back up. I was a legit hermit for so long, 18+hr days literally every day.

[haughty flicker]

or i did before i started mythic raiding anyway

[proven willow]

bro i used to start a new account every expansion LOL

i cant even explain why

[harsh anchor]

I played until Nighthold, I got addicted to Overwatch

I guess the timeline between those is a little wonky but I was in school at that time too

[proven willow]

i opened a ticked and blizz was nice enough to take every char from all the accounts and merge them onto 1. big W by blizz support

[thorn thorn]

10k hours

Damn whispyr you old asf wtf

[haughty flicker]

yeah im not even close

[spice surge]

Soo many uncs in here tonight

[haughty flicker]

i easily wouldve had it with my mop-bfa numbers though

[balmy condor]

I've been playing since wod ye

[thorn thorn]

Im a DF baby

I think evoker has like 70 days on it

[crystal bay]

if we could read that message without our reading glasses we would be mad

[proven willow]

youre both young wtf

[nova kelp]

I've been playing since classic lol

[balmy condor]

yeah so I've been theorycrafting almost twice as long as you've been playing the game

[proven willow]

old wow is vanilla/tbc/wotlk

[strange sleet]

Yeah in WOTLK i was the same. I had so many 36hrs playing sessions...

I stopped in pandaria tho. Left it at around 8k total playtime. Then just light playing from there on

[nova kelp]

Vanilla*

[haughty flicker]

classic just came out thats nothing

[maiden sierra]

i started playing in bfa, i feel like a new player still ngl

[nova kelp]

Actually I played vanilla beta

Lol

[thorn thorn]

Can I call you Great Uncle Whispyr

[harsh anchor]

Me too but I was like 6 or 7

[balmy condor]

preferably not

[nova kelp]

I was there when the old lore was written

[haughty flicker]

gruncle whispyr

[nova kelp]

I played enfos in wc3 map mods

[tight ginkgo]

unc

[kind flint]

I "started" in cata but I really started playing playing in legion

[thorn thorn]

gruncle whispyr yea

[crystal bay]

I remember the time I had WoW weekends with my friends that consisted of an unhealthy amount of monsters and doritos.....looking back idk how im alive

[marsh fjord]

i thought i was higher lol

[harsh anchor]

I was a LOAP and Twilight's Eve RPG kind of guy in WC3

[thorn thorn]

When was everyones least favorite version of this spec

[royal lantern]

whisp

when updates for which bosses you play FB now and what you do different and what pants i should use tomorrow

[proven willow]

ayo how you do that

[marsh fjord]

addon

[proven willow]

actually i dont wanna know

[marsh fjord]

😄

[haughty flicker]

whichever one your favorite is

[maiden sierra]

current

[marsh fjord]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/playtime-total-playtime-tracker/download/5560041 if you want the addon

[thorn thorn]

Same

[nova kelp]

Same tbh

[crystal bay]

WoD one shot pvp exsanguinate, it was short but it did made me happy lol

[strange sleet]

So anyways, next time you want to flame some fucking normie in a +10 remember you guys have all autism and wow is engrained in your brains

lol

[nova kelp]

I've played too LONG to flame people

I ascended beyond that need

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-enemies-dog-butterfly-gif-7312308025622510390

[nova kelp]

Actual though

I don't know if I was EVER a rager at all. I play to many fighting games to even recognise an MMO players passive aggressiveness.

[proven willow]

so i have to login and out of everyone for it to work yeah?

[marsh fjord]

yes in all characters

and then just go to a random character

and do /playtime

[crystal bay]

same but with MOBA's

[proven willow]

omg i have like 40+ chars lmao

[rotund maple]

I've got at least 360+ days on my paladin.... Don't want to see a combined amount

[marsh fjord]

btw

[spring moat]

ive got one of ea class.. this gonna be interesting

[marsh fjord]

Because of the final patch notes are in does that mean we wont get any tuning anymore till patch hits?

[balmy condor]

correct

they're on a freeze probably

at least for classes

[nova kelp]

Rofl fighting game rage is all for the love of the game. Its a part of the culture. Moba rage is a step away from a hate crime

[balmy condor]

they might try and ram in some trinket tuning or some shit

[proven willow]

archi said we will likely get another hotfix before

[balmy condor]

and then patch goes live and they'll push more class tuning

[proven willow]

if not before then he said right after release

[harsh anchor]

I hope they buff forge

[marsh fjord]

I think they do tune just before mythic no?

[balmy condor]

they tune every week for like a month after the patch goes live

[marsh fjord]

its weird because there is no hc week now

ahhhh oke

[nova kelp]

11.2.5 we'll get a full rework with the reintroduction of actual dot specs...

[balmy condor]

like we are not even remotely close to done with tuning, but they have to cut it off at some point and push a patch to their servers and stuff for rollout

so the fact we got patch notes means this is probably what we're getting

[maiden sierra]

meh, i guess i am a raid logger after all

[balmy condor]

and then once servers are rolled out they'll go back to it

[marsh fjord]

[balmy condor]

1171 days, 1100 of which spent in /wa menu

[white lance]

damn right

[strange sleet]

holy shit, that's kinda insane

[white lance]

a bit yea, but its over 20 years

[strange sleet]

yeah yeah. If I played nonstop since 2006 I probably would have around the same

But thats whats insane tho. The consistency

[marsh fjord]

fun time isnt wasted time

doing WA's is actually really fun

[strange sleet]

it's not

[harsh anchor]

It is if you like solving problems

[strange sleet]

i'm just impressed

[white lance]

i actually didnt play mop at all

[thorn thorn]

WA making is fun when you are making something degen and irresponsible

[white lance]

so missed out on some /played there 🙁

[strange sleet]

Like wow is my favourite thing ever and I only have like 8k in 19-20 years

[spring moat]

11k hours lmao

[marsh fjord]

Every tier im atleast doing my entire UI of WA's and that takes me around 2/3 days

[thorn thorn]

weak

[strange sleet]

yeah... and 6k are between tbc and pandaria

dailys/artifact power/ all that shit killed wow for me

[nova kelp]

If you played mop you would have done 6k hours in just dailies

[marsh fjord]

i think i have the most time in legion

bring back artifact power

i beg

[proven willow]

legion bis

[marsh fjord]

yes sir

[thorn thorn]

Legion was bis after bad rng didnt brick your character

[nova kelp]

Legion was bis after the qol patch

[marsh fjord]

yeah the legendaries were shit in the start if you were lucky you were good. if not you just switched character and try again lol

[strange sleet]

I sold my SP with bis legendarys to a guild mate

[marsh fjord]

sold?

[strange sleet]

yes

[marsh fjord]

You sold your account?

[strange sleet]

No, just the caharacter

[marsh fjord]

how do you sell the character???

Im confused 😄

[strange sleet]

he created a new acc with my name in it and I tranfer the char to that acc

[dusk crane]

does it matter if i hit kingsbane before or after deathmark?

[marsh fjord]

wtf

didnt know you could do that

[marsh fjord]

Yes it does.

[strange sleet]

well back then you could

[dusk crane]

which order should i do it in

[marsh fjord]

Deathmark first

then shiv

then kingsbane

[dusk crane]

but I can pre-bleed or do I also need to garrote / rupture during deathmark

[marsh fjord]

well obv you dont deathmark with 2 seconds on your rupture/garrote you reapply at that point first.

butr you can press deathmark if they have like 10-12 seconds

and then re-apply in pandamic window

And the reason you want the deathmark first because deathmark also doubles your lethal poisons

[proven willow]

damn i found the twink hunter i had in reckfuls guild

😦

[thorn thorn]

the what now

[proven willow]

in cata when twinks were popular i was in reckfuls pvp guild

[marsh fjord]

level 19 twinks back in the day

was fun

[proven willow]

yeah i loved that

wsg premades

[marsh fjord]

yeah

they should bring back like a event where you are a 19 twink against other 19s twinks in wsg

how cool would that be

[proven willow]

i did 29 too but nothing higher

some people did weird brackets

39, 49

never understood that

[marsh fjord]

yeah but remember back in the day

we couldnt lock our exp

that was scuffed

[proven willow]

that was very scuffed

i remember how alive it got when u could lock

id say for a good year or so before it died down

[marsh fjord]

i also remember the reaction of people if you were like a twink

that it was awesome and so on

[proven willow]

man thats true nostalgia

forget this classic business bring back twinks

[marsh fjord]

😄

twinks events

[proven willow]

yeah they should make it like the remix events

[strange sleet]

It depends on the class a little too. There were nice weapons for certains brackets

[proven willow]

true but i just mean the population of players doing it drastically fell off

i always wondered if they had like groups

[nova kelp]

How did MMO characters ever adopt the twink moniker lol

That's still a wild one to me

[proven willow]

its from earlier games called MUDs (multi user dungeons) as a slang term

im talkin like 1970s

old af

[tropic rover]

@balmy condor

[nova kelp]

Its from gay culture lol

[proven willow]

no its not

thats a new slang

no idea what woke concept made they

[balmy condor]

HOLY

[proven willow]

twinking is old af and from video gamers

[balmy condor]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOULD BE

[nova kelp]

Oh araz nerfed?

[balmy condor]

THEY HIT THE TOWERS

[tropic rover]

From Uliras discord so grain of salt

[gritty laurel]

yeah twink was a game term first

[balmy condor]

oh

okay I don't care anymore

[tropic rover]

No care cause some of it is confirmed real lol

Feral TC/datamine guy confirmed the araz nerf

[nova kelp]

That's back from like the 50s. Not woke culture

[tropic rover]

And this is netherprism

I think it's real

[proven willow]

no because it was born from the gamer lingo

[nova kelp]

Twink was most definitely not game terminology first

[marsh fjord]

From the fatebound side how does fatebound makes us a 1 minut 30 spec? doesnt DM still stays 2 minutes?

[proven willow]

it was take 3 seconds and look it up

[nova kelp]

The slang version of twink was in dictionaries from pre 60s

[proven willow]

its from the 1970s

because its from the game type

[balmy condor]

you keep making it worse

[proven willow]

what ur talking about is someone trying to say it came from a british word twank LOL

[nova kelp]

The etymology of the game version might be completely separate. But it's not before the origin of the gay culture version

[proven willow]

thats a big gap

[tropic rover]

pretty sure it's real but I feel ya

[thorn thorn]

Sael mentioned a hotfix an hourish ago that caused some changes to Aug

Possible intentional or not who knows

[proven willow]

damn turns out im a true seasonal gamer

[slim copper]

really excited for the buffs we are getting as sin in 11.2

[marsh fjord]

don't be that excited yet

[gritty laurel]

i too am excited to slam some big fat envenoms in raid and some chunky motherfuckin CTs in dungeons

[marsh fjord]

my friend just did his and it was 26.000 hours lol

[balmy condor]

hotfixes don't seem live, the numbers are the same

or it's like a 3% nerf or some useless number that I can't tell

[marsh fjord]

Wait whats happening?

[balmy condor]

at least for forge

which is the one I give a shit about

guess we wait

[tropic rover]

@fresh kelp was saying forge used to give 45k agi now gives 40

[balmy condor]

yeh ok so useless nerf

realisitically they could've nerfed it to like 30k and it would've still been giga bis

[gritty laurel]

maybe i'm stupid, but i feel like forge could be cut in half and still be good

[balmy condor]

SE LA VIDE

[nova kelp]

Lol it's such an insane number considering it's talking about main stat

[fresh kelp]

forge lost 5k primary, prism can stack 30s longer, pacemaker lost like 25% of its crit i think?

[marsh fjord]

What number is araz getting?

[balmy condor]

pacemaker 25% is good

[marsh fjord]

Where are you guys seeing this?

[balmy condor]

but araz not losing like 40%

is insane

[balmy condor]

staring at in-game numbers

[marsh fjord]

Oh

[gritty laurel]

but numbers is in discord not in game

he's right there

[marsh fjord]

hahahaha

[balmy condor]

not obliterating ritual forge is crazy work

arguably the strongest trinket in like 2 expacs

[spice surge]

Its literally just ashes no

[nova kelp]

Somewhere at blizzard probably:
"Hmmmm araz still seems overturned. We should funnel more sin damage into envenom"

[balmy condor]

its ashes but stronger

[vapid jacinth]

I haven't played much fatebound... if it ends up being better, are we happy to actually be able to target swap and not worry about mark? or is there some other annoying mech?

[gritty laurel]

you aren't gonna be playing fatebound in any scenario where there's more than one target

[marsh fjord]

you will still play DS in aoe situations

not FB

Since FB is so shit in aoe

[vapid jacinth]

even with bleed builds? 🙁

[spice surge]

Idk pretty sure an upscaled ashes would give more

[marsh fjord]

Even with bleed buils

[balmy condor]

fatebound is not playable in m+

[marsh fjord]

You litteraly do reduced damage if more targets

[spice surge]

Also shiv before deathmark as bleed probably a thing right

[quaint flare]

reduced to the prio mob

[marsh fjord]

reduced is mabye the wrong word.

[vapid jacinth]

ugh... i mean i dont mind ds in m+ it's just annoying for prio adds in raid

[quaint flare]

not reduced

[marsh fjord]

yeah reduced is the wrong wording

sorry im european 😄

[balmy condor]

unplayable there too

[upper wraith]

so what we playing for m+ and raid

[balmy condor]

Im not sure if I tested it on specifically bleed build

[gritty laurel]

it self nerfs spatter damage with 2 and 3 targets, then doesn't scale past 3 targets whereas the funnel from DS loves those extras

[balmy condor]

the same thing as now

[upper wraith]

10-4

[balmy condor]

I mean forget that, deathstalker has 3 full talents that only trigger in aoe

fatebound is actively hurting itself

[gritty laurel]

fair

[balmy condor]

while half of deathstalker isn't even active until you get more targets

[marsh fjord]

Do you mean with the extra shiv count?

[spice surge]

Yes

[gritty laurel]

if you're doing double shiv instead of iron wire it might be?

[balmy condor]

it's definitely not a thing with kingsbane

but without kingsbane maybe

shiv->dm->kb was legit like -0.5%

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

deathmark is just a dead gcd

you're essentially saying 1 tick of bleeds is worth wasting a gcd of shiv

[thorn thorn]

Is it? and here I was thinking it was decent

[balmy condor]

I mean the cooldown is really strong

but the gcd itself

is actually nothing

[thorn thorn]

oh

reading fail

[marsh fjord]

whispyr is trying to say that it doesnt matter when you press it in form as a GCD

[balmy condor]

your character just blacks out for 1 second and does absolutely nothing

[spice surge]

I was moreso thinking trying to get arterial on as much of the imp garrote as possible

But ye im aware its not good with kb

[gritty laurel]

i guess it won't really matter with next tier set since double shiv should cover more than the entire DM window, yeah?

[balmy condor]

yeh I don't think it's worth inting a gcd

gar not strong enough

[marsh fjord]

isnt shiv 11 seconds now?

[balmy condor]

it matters because you'd prefer the shiv in lingering

[gritty laurel]

ah forgot about lingering

[marsh fjord]

i notice about the shiv in lingering that i mostly dry shiv in the last 10 seconds of lingering because im finishing to fast

before my DN comes up

is that normal?

[balmy condor]

sure

that's fine

[nova kelp]

Are we gettin any adjustments to the crafting cantrips? Like. Are they going to be worth a fucking thing in S3?

[balmy condor]

they're worth crafting, yes

[nova kelp]

Nvm

[haughty flicker]

[nova kelp]

Probably just craft random stat lens items anyway

Barely makes a fucking difference

[haughty flicker]

im crafting a sporecloak

[buoyant herald]

My Beloved

[proven willow]

maybe ill start a new chapter and play sin fotm instead of arms this season

gameplay looks fun in keys

[marsh fjord]

sin is extremely fun

[proven willow]

looking fun enough to break a 17 year same spec streak

[solar wyvern]

hunt them down second place on ST

lets go

[proven willow]

omg my rogue is 70 LOL

[subtle kiln]

Kekw all of the sudden rogue is fun because ptr dmg

[proven willow]

big number fun is it not?

[subtle kiln]

if that’s what floats your boat enjoy

or just play warlock or fdk

[proven willow]

its fun watching 48 mil aoe

fdk is nowhere near sin in m+ now

3 nerfs in a row will get ya

[subtle kiln]

cause it’s going to last.

[proven willow]

i actually havent seen a lock but melee is > everything else

i know mages and hunters still pump

[buoyant herald]

Rogue, esp assass, is super comfy in keys. Curious to see what the pure ST damage looks like since that was the major downbuzz but looks like it should be a comparative improvement on s2

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor just sharing information that im seeing

don't know if true or not

[proven willow]

oh hes the dk goat

[balmy condor]

yeah that's what I saw too

seems accurate to in-game

[tropic rover]

Vindicated...

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[proven willow]

wonder why they hit pacemaker

[tropic rover]

They're gonna demand a recount on the dungeon voting last minute

I mean realistically probably because everyone wanted it but it's a pretty hefty nerf

[pastel roost]

They didn't hit signet of the priory ?

[proven willow]

prob not since 2 minute

i cant believe people actually picked dawnbreaker

[nova kelp]

Why would they hit signet?

[proven willow]

im not sure either it seemed fair

[haughty flicker]

Dawnbreaker is kind of a cool dungeon ngl

[proven willow]

to me its one of those this is cool once

[haughty flicker]

I didn't vote for it but I accept those who did

Unlike the Ara Kara voters who only did it for trinket no one will even use

[marsh fjord]

bro so many people are suddenly saying that assa rogue is so strong now lol

[fresh kelp]

trinket is so doa with forge existing

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[nova kelp]

Mental capacity has been reducing since covid.

[proven willow]

its prob because of casuals stream

thats what got me

[balmy condor]

internet brainrot goes hard

[dawn pollen]

real

[cursive root]

lul

[marsh fjord]

LOL

[proven willow]

damn that guy plays like 10 hours of ptr a day too LOL

[marsh fjord]

ban all fotm rerollers to rogue

[cursive root]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-gif-8540512

[nova kelp]

Lol they're all Gona "fotm" reroll to fatebound sin for m+

Brain rot has ascended

[marsh fjord]

give the deserter buff to rogue fotm rerollers

[proven willow]

hey thats me

[marsh fjord]

Banned

[vale shore]

Shadowheart's day is coming. Those of us running it will be vindicated!

[worn badger]

It's ok. Everyone will delete their rogues in 12.0

[vale shore]

that is going to be the rogue expansion!

Silvermoon, void stuff, Taylor Swift songs...

all the things we think of as rogue!

[haughty flicker]

Midnight=moon=elune=boomkin

[worn badger]

No we only think of owl bears. We covered this last night

[haughty flicker]

It's a druid expac sorry

[proven willow]

im carrying at lvl 70 the hype is real

[vale shore]

lots of druids in Silvermoon?

[proven willow]

this warrior is roleplaying and only meleeing the entire dungeon

[buoyant herald]

Sims come out, brain rot asks if something is wrong with them because assa so bad. 4% aura buff, a few hours of ptr streaming and now assa too good

[worn badger]

Lol

[marsh fjord]

i heard balance is really good now

[haughty flicker]

We're uniting the elf tribes, last I checked nelfs are elves

[wet turtle]

If ur not 680 end of s2 ur not a real rogue

[marsh fjord]

promote him

[proven willow]

ranged dps dont exist, melee surpemacy

[balmy condor]

The sims aren’t even accurate but people are too fucking brainrotted to care about any context they just see number bad bro 😩

[worn badger]

Mythic raiders aren't real

[vale shore]

I made the cut!

[marsh fjord]

Wooohoooooooo

[buoyant herald]

Well now number good so!??

[marsh fjord]

welcome!

[wet turtle]

you have the ability to chat now

[proven willow]

do i have enough time to get my lvl 70 rogue to 680

[marsh fjord]

no lol

[wet turtle]

no, blocked

[worn badger]

If you don't sleep.

[cursive root]

ez

[balmy condor]

[marsh fjord]

fake rogue

[junior axle]

is it way too early to tell what the bis trinkets are going to be next season?

[dawn pollen]

araz seems good

[junior axle]

since they just made some changes to the trinkets

[balmy condor]

The amount of “Fatebound in m+??????” I’ve gotten in the last 24 hours is insanely concerning

[cursive root]

vanish

[vale shore]

Tell them it will be a coin toss...

[wet turtle]

This guy rogues

[proven willow]

what is fatebound

new rogue main asking for a friend

[haughty flicker]

I can't believe whispyr hasn't released the fatebound m+ tech yet

[marsh fjord]

Its balance druid hero talent

[haughty flicker]

If he's hiding this what else could he be hiding

How can I ever trust

[proven willow]

[balmy condor]

Dude I had someone ask me if the kingsbane bug fix makes Fatebound giga in m+

and they’re a good player

And a rogue one trick

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

And I wanted to blast my brains out

How are people this uneducated about basic balancing within their own spec

[worn badger]

I also made you want to blast your brains out apparently

[proven willow]

are they still a good player after asking tho

[dawn pollen]

arent you getting tired of all those questions xD i would

[balmy condor]

According to their io score, ye

[nova kelp]

You're going to need to do a FULL theory/numbers stream/vid for aoe fatebound

[balmy condor]

Sometimes it feels like size of io score is inverse to intelligence about spec

[nova kelp]

Its been decreed

[cursive root]

whispyr should do a video recording discord DMs, that would be peak content

[wide atlas]

hi guys what is fotm and is rogue good ? Like wise decistion to main -good

[buoyant herald]

Getting big io is a reflection of time available to play more than skill

[vale shore]

but fatebound is the rogue that's been roguing for several expansions now. Your abilities just flip coins sometimes!

[worn badger]

But then people can't send him feral porn..

[buoyant herald]

Don’t @ me

[marsh fjord]

Tettles is completely shattered in his stream about boomy

[fresh kelp]

good

[balmy condor]

If I post sims on video people will yoink the url and spread nonsense

I know this because that’s what happened in season 1

I’m not kidding

[proven willow]

i thought u said it was broken

sus

[nova kelp]

I don't doubt it

[proven willow]

i took the fatebound icon because i dont konw what it means

[haughty flicker]

[vale shore]

I was once in an LFR with an outlaw rogue who had two daggers equipped. He literally could not use any of his abilities.

[marsh fjord]

its a coin. you farm extra gold

[bronze pike]

No one will @ u to argue that

[buoyant herald]

Good

[balmy condor]

Some bozo legit paused the video, typed out the url, and then sent it to one of the PTR spreadsheeters with no context and it was a nightmare

[buoyant herald]

I’m at work and have very important things to do

[balmy condor]

Literal fiends

[haughty flicker]

Get @ nerd

[nova kelp]

I'm not sure why non rogues are so excited about flipping coins. Is this a thing? Do people all think that Johnny from XRD is a really cool character?

[haughty flicker]

Now get back to work

[balmy condor]

It’s less about flipping coins and more about not flipping deathmark stacks

Even my mage friends are like

[vale shore]

rogues also roll dice. Statistically, they wont do as well as the coin flippers...

[balmy condor]

Wow deathstalker mark is ass

[haughty flicker]

Yeah people aren't happy about the idea of playing fatevound they're happy about the idea of not dealing with mark

[nova kelp]

Im not convinced they think about it that hard.

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

I mean the people I talk to do

[proven willow]

wait is this outlaw speak

[balmy condor]

But I guess I don’t waste my time with dumbfucks enough

[proven willow]

im struggling to keep up

[haughty flicker]

I can fix that

[proven willow]

nice im red now, true fotm reroller

[balmy condor]

I’m sure some people just see fatebound giga buff and start drooling uncontrollably

Cause number shiny

[bitter solar]

it's us, we are the dumbfucks

[balmy condor]

Oooo number up

Wahooooo

[wet turtle]

but will you be red on Tuesday, doubt it you fdk

[vale shore]

https://tenor.com/view/toss-coin-flip-gif-14812148271012822199

[proven willow]

frost is dedge

i was also never a frost player xd

[wet turtle]

sure

[vale shore]

Batman: "Two-face, flipping a coin every time you throw a punch is getting real tiresome!"

[proven willow]

i typed what i mained for 17 years straight

[cursive hatch]

based on the amount of johnnys I had to fight in brackets every week, yes they do think hes a cool character 😭

[wet turtle]

congrats

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/haechan-why-is-bro-still-here-nct-ahgazen-gif-1802967260920180095

[nova kelp]

One of those was probably me lol

[proven willow]

i swear i main rogue

im just lvl 71

[haughty flicker]

[marsh fjord]

@proven willow how many combo points do we get on crit?

[wet turtle]

sure unc whatever you say

[proven willow]

im also a tauren

am i parsing

[wet turtle]

back to classic wow

[worn badger]

Is that you pika?

[proven willow]

tauren is crit damage

big number

FoK should make your next envenom hit up to 8 targets. im a rogue main

[marsh fjord]

trinket tuning is now always uploaded to wowhead

[subtle kiln]

slow mode by tomorrow?

[thorn thorn]

Actually anti-fun gameplay

Like yes I would love for my entire hero talent to be based around a debuff on an enemy and if it ever disappears for any reason I just have no hero talent

What fun fun fun fun fun

[haughty flicker]

You mean acceptable fiction

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-needs-that-little-bit-of-friction-a-little-rubbing-a-little-tension-rub-motorcycle-gif-14848828

[thorn thorn]

God I wish it was fiction

[haughty flicker]

Oh I can't type

[haughty flicker]

Freudian slip I suppose

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[thorn thorn]

Yes the majority of the M+ players are dumb as hell

This isnt new

[marsh fjord]

i know

[thorn thorn]

Already great M+ spec gets flat aura buffs

Literally every M+ player

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-with-hands-in-the-head-gif-27591093

[runic hinge]

Yeah. Me and Herp

[proven willow]

i mean tbf he was doing more than any other class

[balmy condor]

I got you

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[balmy condor]

whenever a fotm dumbass shows up

just spam em with that

[marsh fjord]

Thank god

[balmy condor]

until they crawl back to their cave

[bronze pike]

Cool

[proven willow]

will do

[bronze pike]

Now everytime Zac screams about fatebound

I can hit em with that

[haughty flicker]

We're so Barack that we have a command to combat potential fotm

[proven willow]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[proven willow]

GOT HIM

[thorn thorn]

Its just like S1

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/back-gif-17006612569303876691

[thorn thorn]

People were like OMFG SIN SO OP IT DOES A BAZILLION DAMAGE IN KEYS

[cursive root]

ok guys lets test

[thorn thorn]

Then they reroll sin and do tank damage

Every time.

[cursive root]

hey guys im a fotm reroller is rogue good?

[proven willow]

yes its bis welcome

[thorn thorn]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[haughty flicker]

I do tank damage without having to reroll tyvm

[cursive root]

you passed the test

[balmy condor]

I think my #1 issue in season 1 was not bullying people hard enough

[thorn thorn]

So true

[cursive root]

fake rogue

[balmy condor]

fotm players do not deserve respect or attention for their basic ass questions, they can read a guide like the rest of us did

[thorn thorn]

[cunning needle]

what about in raid/single target

[balmy condor]

you see, the command is targetted at m+ gamers, cause this isn't an issue in the raid community

[vast pond]

Even with the nerf to forge, isn't that still a ridiculous amount of main stat?

[quiet oriole]

Ass is still B tier at best change my mind

[cunning needle]

true. fuck the mini gamers

[balmy condor]

but m+ fotm chasing goes sicko mode

[balmy condor]

yes the nerf wasn't nearly enough

[vast pond]

It's got to get hit again

That's insane

[proven willow]

i only asked what fatebound was

i feel targeted

[thorn thorn]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[nova kelp]

Just make a covenant now with the real rogues. Spread the word that fatebound is giga in m+

WE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH

[proven willow]

isnt fatebound not even a sin thing

[thorn thorn]

Moroes is gonna be putting in the overtime

[haughty flicker]

Please don't bring up covenants

[haughty flicker]

Fatebound is like twisted fates passive in league

[thorn thorn]

Yes except the twisted fate is that you either do damage, or do increased damage

Incredible design tbh

[balmy condor]

so you know how specs have two hero talents

[quiet oriole]

New fatebound channel when?

[balmy condor]

and deathstalker is one of them

guess what the second one is

[thorn thorn]

Its

[proven willow]

im a lvl 70 rogue main im not that far

[cursive root]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[balmy condor]

idk maybe he's dumb, that's okay

[nova kelp]

He's a main rogue

Just leveling very slowly

[balmy condor]

main rogue since 3 hours ago

[proven willow]

brothers i have hit lvl 71

i now know the trade secrets

[haughty flicker]

Real

Also my power just went out so gg

[thorn thorn]

fotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotmfotm

[nova kelp]

Riperooni

[thorn thorn]

Unlucky, siphon power from your phones battery

[haughty flicker]

Big storm going on so I might die

I'll miss most of you

[thorn thorn]

Is it like

[nova kelp]

Actually though. How many specs actually DO have 2 hero talents? As in like could/would actually use both for reasons?

[thorn thorn]

A large rushing jade wind or a large healing rain

[proven willow]

warriors use both

[thorn thorn]

At this point not many

[haughty flicker]

Hard to tell because if a tree is even 1% ahead everyone considers the other unviable

[potent dawn]

Demo and Destro Lock I think?!?!?1

[proven willow]

warriors have it perfect one is for aoe one is for ST

[haughty flicker]

But the ones I know of personally are all pretty far apart

[proven willow]

idk why every spec isnt like that

[thorn thorn]

Current season the disparity was small enough you could run what you want

But for some specs the difference is 10%+

I think for shadow archon is like 15-20% behind in ST

[marsh fjord]

People are talking about classic characters intregration to retail blizzard has send out a survuy asking how people would feel about it.

( not confirmed just rumours for now )

but thats insane no?

[balmy condor]

not really

[proven willow]

which classic

[balmy condor]

you could integrate from mop remix

[thorn thorn]

Who cares, game is game

[proven willow]

isnt there like 3 classics now

[nova kelp]

No fuck off

[proven willow]

era sod and mop right

[nova kelp]

If you're telling me that I missed out AGAIN on my quiraji mount I will quit

[thorn thorn]

Mald, cope, and seethe

[marsh fjord]

I never have had the mop challenge modes i didnt play them but that would mean i would do the challenge modes for the sets

[nova kelp]

And the mop specific mounts

[proven willow]

oh mop challenge modes true those are rare

[nova kelp]

Classic characters can stay classic

No

[proven willow]

why u want the AQ mount that ish looks terrible

[nova kelp]

Not challenge mounts I have those

[proven willow]

beettle having azz

[nova kelp]

There's new mop classic only mounts

[marsh fjord]

again this is just rumours for now but just wanted to share

[proven willow]

oh ur a collector

[thorn thorn]

People dont want legacy stuff obtainable unless it benefits them

[proven willow]

its just pixels

[thorn thorn]

They must display their their E-peen is measurably longer than everyone else

[nova kelp]

Its +1

[marsh fjord]

I think everything should just be accesible

[proven willow]

my epeen is bigger than all of yours with my lvl 72 main rogue

[marsh fjord]

I dislike the gatelocking

[nova kelp]

And it's a particular+1 that haunts me

[marsh fjord]

just because i wasnt around i cant get stuff

[proven willow]

we call this a spawn diff

[cyan epoch]

I hate unobtainable items in wow as much as I hate Battle Pass fotm skins

[proven willow]

just like when people are poor, spawn diff

[nova kelp]

I was fucked over on the original gate opening because a random hordie started the gate sequence on my server 19 hrs earlier than people arranged.

[thorn thorn]

In a game as old as wow fomo has a different definition since some people were still shitting in diapers when some of the old stuff was out

[nova kelp]

He screwed like 20 people out of their mounts

[marsh fjord]

but this means yo ucan get the mount if true

[cursive root]

fatebound is really good for dungeons

[haughty flicker]

I'm still shitting in diapers as we speak

[thorn thorn]

I dont kink shame

[cyan epoch]

they could design a fun or somewhat challenging way for new players to obtain old items if the devs cared

[proven willow]

i dont take hero talents until im 80 because i dont want to embarrass my dungeon mates

[cyan epoch]

hell i'd even play classic for the old unobtainable mogs

[thorn thorn]

The anniversary event was neat

Got lots of good stuff from that

[nova kelp]

I think all of the mogs and mounts should still be obtainable

I hate the gating off stuff

[thorn thorn]

Gatekeeping is a certified wow classic

[nova kelp]

If you want my mistwalker title. You should still be able to get it

[thorn thorn]

Thats why there is a WA to /laugh at people that got rare mounts during the collectors bounty

People are haters

[cyan epoch]

Look I get gating it for a couple years even, but after that? Nah

[nova kelp]

If you want my challenge mode mounts and xmog. Also fine. You should still be able to get it

[runic hinge]

Wait for real?

[thorn thorn]

Yes its a thing that exists

[proven willow]

honestly the gladiator xmog matters most

[nova kelp]

If you get glad and want to spend your points on an OLD glad mount. You should be able to.

[proven willow]

i only have one set but so many are sick

[runic hinge]

Good thing I only use store mounts

[thorn thorn]

If someone in your party mounts up on a rare mount they got during July the WA does a /laugh at them

Actual soy infused activity

[haughty flicker]

I really feel like they should apply the vicious saddle system to old glad mounts and elite sets

[cursive root]

big agree

[haughty flicker]

There aren't enough pvpers left to deny the change either

So gib me elite sets

[nova kelp]

Yep that too

All of it available

Who gives a shit anymore about the time gating bs

[thorn thorn]

The boomers do

Thats a lie actually

The people around a long time in the game care

For some reason idk

[nova kelp]

OH NO THAT GUY HAS GHOST DAGGERS BUT DIDNT GET THEM BACK IN LEGION. MY LIFE IS WORTH NOTHING!

[thorn thorn]

It shows some sort of elite status or something ig

I do not see the appeal personally but im also not a collector

The only mount I would consider farming is the one from mythic jailor

[marsh fjord]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nova kelp]

I AM a collector. I don't care. Almost every collector I know doesn't care.

[marsh fjord]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nova kelp]

If you go join discords for secrets etc. they NEVER care

[thorn thorn]

We got elitism in wow collecting before we got GTA 6

What a time to be alive

[runic hinge]

If they made it so I could get elite sets if I get 1800 I’d get back on the PvP grind

[nova kelp]

Right?

[haughty flicker]

Yeah, if I could get old elite sets I'd immediately start pvping

[fallow canopy]

mage tower was kinda easy at the end of legion so its not like it was a hard thing to do, it just basically a showcase of "hey you played legion"

[nova kelp]

It would be a good thing for the PvP community even to let go of the elitism

[runic hinge]

Hell if they made it 2150 I’d grind that out too

[nova kelp]

But still they wanna hold onto their "BUT I GOT IT EHEN IT MATTERED!!!"

[gritty laurel]

i didn't farm any mounts during the event because most of the old mounts look like dogshit with the new flying

[thorn thorn]

If I could get old pvp cosmetics and mounts in pvp I would play more pvp but the appeal isnt big enough for me

[marsh fjord]

What's the command again that we can see how much battle shout is for rogues

[thorn thorn]

Real asf

[cyan epoch]

just add a repeatable pvp quest bar that fills like the seasonal mount starting at 1800, you fill it you get a token for a set

[runic hinge]

I’m in

[balmy condor]

bro mage tower was so depressing, they were like "it's gonna be limited time and you never can get it again feat of strength" and I got hyped, banged it out in one afternoon, and then watched as the entire rest of my guild just kinda half-assed it and cheesed it 3 months later

[balmy condor]

we don't have a command for that, it's around 3%

[runic hinge]

S1 I got 2150 on spriest and rogue and I wish I coulda got cooler sets than the ones that were out then. This season I didn’t even do PvP

[fallow canopy]

Yea, gating it under the guise of "it was a challenging thing to do" its bizarre

[haughty flicker]

Also like

[thorn thorn]

Thats just it

[haughty flicker]

They could just make it challenging again

[balmy condor]

idk why they scaled gear instead of just putting template gear on

so it's always the same difficulty

[thorn thorn]

People wanna say "I GOT IT WHEN IT MATTERED REEEEEE" or else they have a meltdown and shit their pants

[thorn thorn]

Too much work

They werent paid enough to care that much

[balmy condor]

I mean that's simply wrong though

[nova kelp]

Template gear would be cool

[balmy condor]

they had to spend so much fucking time and effort fixing cheese trinkets and old ass consumables

[nova kelp]

Everyone has the same challenge

Done

[balmy condor]

hunting down old ass bugs and shit

[thorn thorn]

All that effort when they could have just done template gear?

[balmy condor]

the time they had to spend going back and stopping all the cheese was way more than it would've been to make template

[fallow canopy]

I kinda believe that probably don't want to have to consume or divert people to test and bug proof that with all the new shit since then

[proven willow]

the titanforging system for gear was amazing

[nova kelp]

I'm not above violence

[haughty flicker]

[nova kelp]

MATE

[proven willow]

didnt have a titanforged arcanocrystal?

[marsh fjord]

Titanforged was so good

[nova kelp]

I had this FUCKING FRIEND in legion

[balmy condor]

titanforging was toxic as hell, but at least gear was relevant

[nova kelp]

This FUCKING GUY

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslap-slap-ko-knockout-slap-huge-slap-big-slap-gif-7471918422486227772

[proven willow]

no way to treat a fellow rogue main!

[balmy condor]

its better than logging in every week hoping the m+ trinket is in your vault

and that's on god

[nova kelp]

every FUCKING season he'd link me his new FUCKING mythic level arcanocrystal in like week FUCKING 2

EVERY FUCKING TIME

[proven willow]

LOL

[thorn thorn]

Oh right you fotm

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-hitting-cat-cat-punching-cat-cat-slapping-cat-orange-cat-hitting-cat-gif-6585435513579432745

[marsh fjord]

We need the vault to be to pick out of a loot table of bosses we killed every week.

if its m+ or raid

doesnt matter

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-slap-cats-slapping-slap-cats-fast-slap-gif-3410635898130402885

[nova kelp]

I might just quit actually PLAYING and choose my gear from a Sim dropdown.

God mode

[thorn thorn]

Bro really asked chat gpt what the most controversial hot take was

[marsh fjord]

who did 😄

[balmy condor]

grok show me a picture of this mans balls

[nova kelp]

Dude. I'm still actually really fucking annoyed about my mate in legion with that trinket bullshit

Worse over he didn't raid seriously

[thorn thorn]

🎊

[nova kelp]

He was good too!

[thorn thorn]

Its always the people who dont raid seriously

[nova kelp]

Boi just did lfr and had ONSCENE luck

[marsh fjord]

You dont need grok for that i got you bro

[thorn thorn]

In amirdrassil we had a mage who rerolled to DK cuz it was projected to be good in raid

Got Fyralath on their first ever fyrakk kill on lfr

Then dropped it a week later

[proven willow]

should i be using this fellow rogue mains

[nova kelp]

Every season he'd out gear the fuck out of me. Meanwhile I'm getting chewed the fuck out by star auger

[thorn thorn]

Went back to mage

[balmy condor]

its not the worst thing ever

it's not great either

[proven willow]

does it use the right abilites when stealthed vs non stealthed

or is it not that smart

[balmy condor]

within reason, yes

there's not really much of a difference between stealth vs not

so it kinda doesn't matter

it ambushes to apply deathstalkers mark

[balmy condor]

and it applies bleeds

[proven willow]

will it tab target for me

[balmy condor]

and that's good enough

no ofc not

[proven willow]

wtf refund

[balmy condor]

it also doesn't wipe your ass and feed your grapes

[solar wyvern]

first pull halls. the 60% bonus to singular focus kindof goes insane, thts all shard damage LOL

[balmy condor]

while we're on the subject

[main bridge]

i don't know why anyone would want it to play the game for them at all

[solar wyvern]

680m singular SHEE

[runic hinge]

I want some grapes

[nova kelp]

Honestly. That's probably more than what some people in here do in spite of big talk

[main bridge]

i also don't get what's fun about slamming one button so it's clearly not for people like me

[proven willow]

im lvl 72 and i need to be 680 before the patch

[thorn thorn]

Bro you cant be fotm and using obr

[proven willow]

i need 1 button

[balmy condor]

but I heard some high io rogue said assa has no funnel and singular sucks how could this be

[main bridge]

need is a strange word for that

[solar wyvern]

which goober was that hehe

[vague raft]

hey how much damage is battle shout?

[proven willow]

the people in here told me i need so i say need

[balmy condor]

mr z

[solar wyvern]

Hmmm

[balmy condor]

like 3%

[main bridge]

OMG you mean that guy that used to be rank one!!!! how DARE you speak against him

[solar wyvern]

Interesting premise

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslap-slap-ko-knockout-slap-huge-slap-big-slap-gif-7471918422486227772

[nova kelp]

Fatebound m+ stream when whispyr?

[harsh anchor]

Does zerocool still play

[balmy condor]

god I hope not

[vague raft]

why is my sim showing like 5% on the dot?

[harsh anchor]

I kind of miss that juice when he was around

[balmy condor]

idk maybe it's 5% then

does it matter if it's 3 or 5

[vague raft]

it does for an internet argument

ty

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

that sounds miserable

[vague raft]

he is

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/zerocool-gif-5472975689631546553

[marsh fjord]

Some people can be very miserable on the internet sadly

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-i-know-him-they're-me-obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-gif-15219886167814879581

[marsh fjord]

Nah your the best bro

[thorn thorn]

Whispyr is miserable because he has to deal with people who want to argue semantics but dont know what they are talking about

[harsh anchor]

The best are often miserable, look at Robin Williams 🙁

[thorn thorn]

And also dont know what semantics means

[harsh anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-kiss-suck-girl-gif-5525710854024677285

[runic hinge]

Damn why didn’t I have that one saved already

[haughty flicker]

Please don't bring up politics here

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslap-slap-ko-knockout-slap-huge-slap-big-slap-gif-7471918422486227772

[cyan surge]

From a mog perspective, that would be great.

[marsh fjord]

Would be dope

[indigo epoch]

M+ s3 for my push group can't decide between playing Havoc DH or Assas rogue. 😦

[proven willow]

rogue for sure

[cursive root]

fatebound too

[marsh fjord]

fatebound rogue is looking good bro

Esp in m+

[indigo epoch]

Rlly?

[marsh fjord]

yeah bro

[cursive root]

it's fotm

[nova kelp]

Please don't ACTUALLY do that

[proven willow]

im playing deathstalker because i like to go against the meta

[marsh fjord]

can ask @proven willow

hes gaming right now

[nova kelp]

People are slow. They WILL listen

[marsh fjord]

Why do you ruin the joke haha

[indigo epoch]

Usually yall doomin in here

[proven willow]

yeah fatebound was a BIG find for me tbh

[cursive root]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[nova kelp]

I'll come in here at like 6pm my time. All you fuckers are in bed. And there will be a legit crew of people raving about FB m+ God mode. And if I try and convince them otherwise they'll gang up on me for being shit

It happens all the time with weird misinfo

[marsh fjord]

Hahahahahaha

[topaz cedar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[proven willow]

i wish sin could use swords

for the mog

[cyan surge]

takes a quick puff Fatebound being bad in m+ is a government psyop, maaaaaaan.

[nova kelp]

Suddenly ill be surrounded by a bunch of lunatics waxing lyrical about FB aoe and coming at me like school kid
LINK IO OR YOU LOSE

[wary prairie]

looks like the bug for fatebound is still active? my kingsbane stacks are resetting still

[runic hinge]

I beat my guildies in dps playing fatebound in 12’s but that kinda made me re-evaluate their skill level when I did the Dslice sim and its -25%

[nova kelp]

The weirdest thing is they'll actually have bubbled themselves in so hard they'll have managed to rationalise a bunch of bullshit that sounds convincing

[marsh fjord]

there are some cool daggers that look like swords

let me link you

[balmy condor]

not all of the hotfixes are live

[dense flax]

do you guys prefer dwarf or dark iron dwarf for assassin?

[nova kelp]

Human

[wary prairie]

yeah ty for confirming... i know it might be coming later this week

[dense flax]

for m+

[wary prairie]

just wasn't sure

[marsh fjord]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=203812/gurubashi-poker

[haughty flicker]

belf

[marsh fjord]

dwarf

[runic hinge]

Nelf

[marsh fjord]

female human

[proven willow]

have that in blue too

[marsh fjord]

gamer

[proven willow]

idk if blue is a sword or not

[nova kelp]

The REAL question is... Would you have a go at chromie?

[indigo epoch]

What's gonna be better in M+ with current changes... FB or DS?

[balmy condor]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[nova kelp]

See!

See what you did!

[runic hinge]

What do you mean have a go

[nova kelp]

You know what I mean

[tight ginkgo]

What about Footbound in M+?

[marsh fjord]

@cursive root

[runic hinge]

Would

[marsh fjord]

hahahaha sorry

[brazen pine]

Don't see a new pin, so I'm gonna bug Whispyr.

This move the needle at all?

[balmy condor]

no

[cursive root]

https://tenor.com/view/perfetto-yes-gif-26163077

[brazen pine]

Still BiS and busted. Got it.

[balmy condor]

it's a 10% nerf to a trinket that should've gotten a 40-50% nerf

[nova kelp]

It might have made it wiggle a little

[brazen pine]

I kinda figured when I heard the number was like 40k main stat

[marsh fjord]

im a new trial in my guild im never getting that trinket anyway

[brazen pine]

but I was curious

[nova kelp]

Like a hesitant oil gauge

[brazen pine]

kinda mad about the changes to the S2 trinkets considering we voted on those dungeons because we wanted them

but it is what it is

just Blizzard things

[nova kelp]

Blizzards gonna blizzard

[brazen pine]

They certainly are

[rigid flicker]

Dark Iron here.

[brazen pine]

though to be fair, it does say season 2 specifically, so idk if that will carry over to their season 3 variants that drop post patch

[polar rampart]

so like the pacemaker they are nerfing going into next season, are they only nerfing the season 2 version, and season 3 will be full value?

or all versions?

[balmy condor]

don't lump reasonable humans into this delusion

[marsh fjord]

no its a nerf for the next version

[polar rampart]

ok

[brazen pine]

I mean, fair, I didn't vote for them

[balmy condor]

the animals that voted for dungeons because of trinket drops deserve literally nothing

they're idiots and should've seen this coming from a mile away

[proven willow]

agreed them and fotm rerollers

[nova kelp]

BUT MAH SPOODER SACK!

[runic hinge]

Needed to vote for only 3 boss dungeons so I could be done mythic plus as fast as possible

[distant plinth]

Rather have giga trinkets from m+ than very rare stuff that everyone needs tbh😵‍💫

[brazen pine]

I do agree with that.

The trinkets from M+ being BiS so that everyone can farm them.

[distant plinth]

Unless we are giga meta and het 100% prio

I dont mind

[brazen pine]

But that's because I'm an M+ andy.