#assassination

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subtle tundra
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also having a roommate

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or being born rich

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WHY DIDNT I RNG A RICH FAMILY?

feral wasp
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Bro imagine you have 4 kids you dont have to pug anymore

subtle tundra
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and what if one of them is a shitter at the game

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what you gonna do

quiet oar
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Getting all your kids to paly WoW

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is like Abuse

haughty flicker
quiet oar
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and Dogsitter

haughty flicker
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imagine you wake up one day

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and your son tells you

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he wants to main mage

subtle tundra
midnight mist
subtle tundra
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i save good money cause i live with mom

midnight mist
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imagine having to play with 4 terrible players

subtle tundra
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and she makes good food

quiet oar
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Which also saved a lot of money

subtle tundra
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can i also buy house from her

quiet oar
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no its mine

sonic schooner
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Imagine having to play with zac talking baguette

midnight mist
quiet oar
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i have the 2nd floor

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and she has the 1st floor

midnight mist
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seems like she scammed you bro

quiet oar
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Not really

midnight mist
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imagine you buy a house from someone and they stay living in it

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💀

subtle tundra
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zac you should get a loving mother

midnight mist
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biggest scam fr fr

quiet oar
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I mean she is also a Dogsitter

midnight mist
quiet oar
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and makes the garden

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Free Services

midnight mist
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She watches my streams and tell me she doesn't understand shit

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W

hearty seal
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love working with nerds ngl

ripe sphinx
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why r u here @midnight mist

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go back to outlaw

midnight mist
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im bored

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whats up

subtle tundra
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the sky

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hahaahahhha

royal lantern
midnight mist
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you guys are funny in here

subtle tundra
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thanks

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i try

tall jay
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
zenith elm
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Hey zac

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its been a while

midnight mist
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hi

zenith elm
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how are you doing ?

midnight mist
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im fine

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playing outlaw as always

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guns and shit

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you know how it goes

subtle tundra
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yikes

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hope you heal well

midnight mist
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dont yikes me noob

zenith elm
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noice

sonic schooner
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which means it doesnt go well for him because outlo so shit

ripe sphinx
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uwu something

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i cant find

midnight mist
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No

royal lantern
sonic schooner
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tuning wise? bfa. Gameplay wise? Post df rework

royal lantern
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mate, no outlaw player was born during BfA

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except guy

small garnet
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Is there any new talent builds for assa for ptr testing?

balmy condor
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no, the builds haven't changed

small garnet
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okay thanks trinket wise i guess the forge?

balmy condor
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yep

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forge until blizzard wakes up from their coma and realizes that they tacked on an extra 0

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would not be surprised to see that trinket get like a 30-40% nerf

small garnet
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yea so far from all classes ive tried on ptr everyone runs this

balmy condor
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45k primary stat when the alternatives are like 8k

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yeh

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that'll happen

small garnet
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also sadly fatebound is turbo dead right?

balmy condor
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it's outperforming in exactly 1 target

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so fractilus

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but playing it is very cancer

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if you have full 2min cds like racial/forge, you're better off playing it without the 4pc and playing it like now

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if you have a 1:30 trinket you can play the 4pc for a minor loss, macro cb to deathmark, and then play 45s kb, 1:30 dm, 3 min vanish

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and those are kinda the best ideas we got right now

thick sigil
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Man Blizzard really cooked with that set bonus huh?
Tho i guess when you cook with a giant pile of shit, its always going to be shit

small garnet
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damn man

subtle tundra
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blizzard once again with the cool ideas

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and shit execution

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bravo

balmy condor
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the set bonus is really cool

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it's just built on top of fatebound

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like the underlying issue isn't tier

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it's fatebound being shit

small garnet
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yeah when i read it it didnt sound that bad

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but then i looked at pins

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and doomed

winged quail
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Blizzard forgot that fatebound is tied to CB and vanish and forgot that they wouldn’t line up with a 1:30 playstyle

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Oopsies

small garnet
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theme wise id also love outlaw but

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i just cant play that for shit

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tho rogue is just my alt from time to time

thick sigil
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Same, i hope for sub supremacy because another season of deathstalker 🫠

balmy condor
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like you can just untalent imp gar these days

winged quail
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True

balmy condor
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but the fact that forge is so insane as a 2min

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and then the fact that vanish still does something

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and cb doesn't line up

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it's just too much

winged quail
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Forge does a little bit of damage to you so it makes sense it’s twice as good as every other trinket garf

balmy condor
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yah

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blizzard logic probably

royal lantern
lean plover
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whispyr have u slept today?

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I m reading posts from 5 am and u still here

red schooner
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Standard whispyr posting hours

royal lantern
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its almost 1pm wdym

thick sigil
balmy condor
lean plover
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that already answers my question lol

balmy condor
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I mean like, have I slept in the last 24 hours

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yes

royal lantern
subtle tundra
lean plover
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Whispyr raw dogging the age of sims with no sleep

balmy condor
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fatebound is making me physically ill

subtle tundra
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disregard it

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and lie

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say its bad

royal lantern
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flip better bozo

lean plover
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Pookie is too dedicated to do that

red schooner
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The fact the kingsbane buff bug is still there vexes me uglyassdog

balmy condor
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we just tried 0:00 all cds, 0:45 kb, 1:30 kb, 2:15 all cds as well

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that wasn't good either

subtle tundra
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hard coded?

balmy condor
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I'm running out of ideas

lean plover
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Also i read eleem say the extra 4 seconds of kb are useless, is it bc of the bug? or would it be bad even if fixed

balmy condor
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bc of the bug

subtle tundra
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kb does 0 dmg without the buff

lean plover
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Rogues and bufsdracthyr_love

red schooner
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Surely the buff bug gets fixed.

balmy condor
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the kb bug is legit like 200k dps

red schooner
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Surely

lean plover
balmy condor
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doesn't help the TCing though

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when I try to sim the gains of getting extra kb casts

subtle tundra
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well i wouldnt think its a bug

balmy condor
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but the extra kb casts fizzle

subtle tundra
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its just an oversight

balmy condor
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non-dm kingsbane are already so weak but now they don't even have the extra 4 seconds to ramp ICANT

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how am I supposed to tc anything under these conditions

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trinket that's 2x as strong as the next trinket

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tier set bonus literally being unequipped

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other hero talent tier set is barely better than s2 tier

red schooner
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I'd say at least you have us but that probably doesn't make it better kekdog

golden loom
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dw they will fix deathstalker tier with a small 400% buff

subtle tundra
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then you still have to consider the shitness of ds mark gameplay

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;3

balmy condor
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like it's gotten to a point where I'm considering just inventing imaginary buffs and slamming them into the sims so I can theorycraft what things might possibly be like after reasonable tuning

subtle tundra
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rogue full hero talent rework when

balmy condor
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"what if I just remove 10s from cold bloods cd so it lines up"

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"What if I just make the deathstalker tier 90%"

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"what if I simply sim kingsbane without the bug instead"

golden loom
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remember to also tune forge trinket while ur at it

balmy condor
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yeah

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might as well just fix the entire game in my fantasy land of simulations

midnight mist
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all of that for it to be useless if there is a single add that spawn in teh fight

balmy condor
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YEP

subtle tundra
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man fire is gonna get more buffs and youre gonna be HAPPY

balmy condor
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deathstalker 4% behind in single target, 3.5% ahead in cleave add

midnight mist
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you know whisp

spice surge
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And regardless of what you do people are gonna complain about rogues sandbagging sims

balmy condor
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fatebound losing literally 8% overall when there's an add up sometimes

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very cool

golden loom
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even if that add is immune / not meant to be hit garf

midnight mist
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if both outlaw and assa stop playing fatebound

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maybe they finally rework it

golden loom
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I mean assa playrate is already 0%

balmy condor
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literally if you compare how far behind deathstalker is in single target and how far ahead it is in just 3 target

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the swing is 13%

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THIRTEEN

golden loom
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so up to u outlaw players to stop playing it!

balmy condor
midnight mist
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thing is its like 6% ahead on st

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but ye add a target and suddently its already like 8% behind in prio

golden loom
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but there is ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE single target fight per tier

balmy condor
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trickster tier sucks for you guys

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or what

midnight mist
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its alright

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15% or so

balmy condor
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oh nice

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nearly double the deathstalker tier

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cool cool

midnight mist
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they just absolutely dunked on trickter

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when they you know

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doubled ks cd

balmy condor
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makes sense

midnight mist
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and the only thing they did to fix that is just chain buff ks damage

subtle tundra
midnight mist
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so now you just play ks with fatebound

balmy condor
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deathstalker tier is like around 9%

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sub trickster is 30%

midnight mist
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ye

spice surge
balmy condor
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balance is VERY good right now

subtle tundra
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what

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balance the spec

unreal fern
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Isnt it like all 3 rogue spec close to tank? 😄

midnight mist
balmy condor
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who fucking knows man

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none of these numbers are adding up

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for any class

unreal fern
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🤣

subtle tundra
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you know what i dont get

midnight mist
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I routinely get out damaged by my tank in st/prio in keys

balmy condor
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you got half the specs in the game under 5mil, the other half at like 6.5mil

subtle tundra
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how is assa so behind after buffs on ptr when on live its good

midnight mist
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So I don't think the sims are that far off tbh

subtle tundra
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what happened that it got worse on ptr

midnight mist
balmy condor
unreal fern
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maybe just other classes het better

midnight mist
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And then you also have the fact half the specs get reworked

spice surge
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Assa isnt good on St on live either

balmy condor
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and then sub gets like a 20% boost

midnight mist
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So it shuffle everything

balmy condor
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buffing assa by 6-7 %

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doesn't make it good

unreal fern
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and icy veins have tier list from 27.07 like wtf ;d speculations

spice surge
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Like if you look at sprocket parses assa is not doing well, its just really good at dealing damage to adds with caustic

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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caustic is a cancer to the spec

midnight mist
subtle tundra
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and ive been saying it since it got introduced

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CT should be the main aoe

midnight mist
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caustic made you relevant in m+ ytou should be happy

unreal fern
subtle tundra
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highly skilled

golden loom
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you can also cheat quite a good amount of energy on any fight with any type of add aswell

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like mugzee for example, just the lil rocket fella / the helicopters add up

spice surge
balmy condor
subtle tundra
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been called the mythical creature known as "Him"

balmy condor
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it's the same for wowhead

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our diablo 4 build tier list is the most clicked page for the entire division

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people just want to see tier list

midnight mist
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Money is ruining everything!

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Wtf !

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Remove money

subtle tundra
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back to trading cows and chickens

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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how much for your corn sir? 10 chickies

spice surge
midnight mist
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i mean

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yoiu guys dont at least rate them

subtle tundra
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the outlaw bug last? tier is how high

midnight mist
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from like

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bad to worse

balmy condor
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what if we revived the github bug list and just made the labels into tiers

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instead of "high-impact"

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it's just S tier

midnight mist
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the github bug list is too much work man ...

balmy condor
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yah that's why it's rotted for 3 expacs

spice surge
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Fucking love tierlist man, s tier

midnight mist
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tf i have to prove everything with 10 logs and write 10 pages on it

subtle tundra
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What does S tier mean? Doesnt change much in terms of dps, is fun, ruins the gameplay???

balmy condor
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doesn't matter varas

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S tier

subtle tundra
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need to make a manifesto on tiers meaning

balmy condor
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that's the beauty of tier list

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you just make shit up

subtle tundra
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they mean nothing but they mean everything

red schooner
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Right, time to close my eyes and apply specs at random

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Good tier list content

balmy condor
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even better when you do tier list based on like subjective things

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"most fun"

red schooner
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Which spec is lucky or not tier list

balmy condor
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you can literally just slot things around randomly on the list

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and as long as you have like 30-45 seconds of yapping

golden loom
balmy condor
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you've done it

golden loom
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I do love hours of yapping content

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like this video as well,
do I care about the horses? No
Will I listen to the video mindlessly? Yes

zenith elm
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HAHAHAHA

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fucking why? xDDD

nova kelp
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you guys are shocked at a 5 hour tier list?

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wtf

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do you guys like listen to music or some shit in your spare time?

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that's quality background noise

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34 minutes on tywins sex tunnel

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sometimes I put on anime power scalers yapping for 6 hours about how x bleach character scales to golden superman or some shit

golden loom
unkempt sphinx
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on a scale 1 - 10 how bad will be rogue in next tier? from some preliminarly digging i see it will be there just because of the debuff even some guilds told me they consider dropping rogue for another of the op specs

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asking because i'm swapping for my guild to rogue since we re missing one and i have to allign my expectations if it will be fine or im mechanics bitch boy

earnest quail
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4.83 bads according to my calculations

unkempt sphinx
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damn thats low

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well if i minimize details to show only 1-2 ppl and make myself always shown i can see myself first

normal mist
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In a scale of 1 to 10 a solid How do you expect us to know based on numbers that aren't real

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Assassination wise our gameplay didn't even change

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Also, if your guild is making decisions based on ptr numbers

balmy condor
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royal from 0% to 100%

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what's the overlap of people taking the PTR numbers seriously

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and the people who wear socks to bed

normal mist
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Hmmm... I'd say around 70 to 80%

balmy condor
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I guarantee some of these hooligans slice butter lengthwise

normal mist
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Hehehe

red schooner
zenith elm
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i dont wear socks while i sleep, i guess i'm in the 20 percent

zenith elm
red schooner
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Its more efficient

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Don't summon zac wtf

zenith elm
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I like Zac

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and he is the truest baguette connoisseur

red schooner
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Let him nap

balmy condor
zenith elm
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I like socks with sandals, am i a freak?

red schooner
zenith elm
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in a tub? nice

red schooner
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I only buy sticks of butter for when I'm baking, general use butter is in a tub

golden loom
red schooner
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The butter tub exists purely for use on jacket potatoes and nothing else

haughty flicker
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mmm

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butter tub

red schooner
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The proper way to buy butter

midnight mist
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you dont ?

balmy condor
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No I’m not a fucking animal

midnight mist
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like i have my butter on the lenght, and i slice some slices from the lenght but not the whole lenght

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so it make some sort of staircase a bit

spice surge
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What the helly

red schooner
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The tub resolves this issue garf

midnight mist
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idk if you dont

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have a staircase butter

balmy condor
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So you’re saying

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You see this

midnight mist
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its legit skill issue or

balmy condor
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Right

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You see stick of butter

midnight mist
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ye

balmy condor
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And you go

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Lemme cut my butter

midnight mist
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i do this

balmy condor
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Youre literally not human

midnight mist
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slice

balmy condor
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What the fuck is wrong with you

midnight mist
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vbut i dont need all of that tho !

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so

haughty flicker
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mmm

red schooner
haughty flicker
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stair butter

inner swift
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what's the name of the trinket that people say its beyond overtuned ?

midnight mist
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i make a lil hole

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like so

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idk if the drawing is good

balmy condor
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Dude you’re not real

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You’re some ragebait ai

midnight mist
balmy condor
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This cannot be serious

zenith elm
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He is very serious

kind forge
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So you just mutilate our block
of butter piece by piece ?

kind forge
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Instead of scraping a bit off for your bread ?

zenith elm
inner swift
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45k : |

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wtf

balmy condor
inner swift
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its like a whole spymaster with no downside

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XD

spice surge
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Tbf it decays, its not 45k for all of it

balmy condor
spice surge
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You lose like 1.6k a second or so

zenith elm
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1.6k a second?

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ridiculous

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like either it need to decay more, or you slice it in half

spice surge
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Well it lasts for 30s

midnight mist
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long ass time

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maybe thats an outlaw trinket

zenith elm
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yeah, and you can reduce the decay in half

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and the amount total in half

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and its gonna be better than what this abomination is

midnight mist
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you are an abomination wtf !

zenith elm
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Thanks, i workout

spice surge
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Prism gives more per use, but obviously you cant have prism stacks on pull

normal mist
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I want to complain about something

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Why dafuq is YouTube auto translating videos titles

midnight mist
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bro right

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pornhub does the same

inner swift
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haste mastry bleed build D:

midnight mist
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makes no sense

lean plover
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the creator is the one that has to disable ir afaik, but its awful

normal mist
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Like if I wanted to see Portuguese videos, I'd watch Brazilian youtubers

lean plover
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idk why they did it

normal mist
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And translations are so cringe it hurts

gritty laurel
inner swift
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surely you watch a french rogue player for english

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wont*

normal mist
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Zac exists

inner swift
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fuck him

normal mist
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So I would

midnight mist
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wtfff

inner swift
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no offence of course

normal mist
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Portugal Spain and France are like the 3 amigos

inner swift
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dont squeeze in france there

normal mist
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France being the one amigo that is less liked

inner swift
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mucho more than less liked

normal mist
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I've heard a Spanish joke that I can't stop think about

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"if you have Spanish friends, tell them mucho, it means a lot to them"

inner swift
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XDDDDDD

lean plover
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portugal yes

normal mist
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Are you my neighbor?

lean plover
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I am

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and you are my good neighbor

normal mist
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Fuck yeah!

lean plover
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the ones at the north arent

red schooner
lean plover
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ones to the west are brothers that deserve all the goods

lean plover
normal mist
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🇵🇹 🤝 🇪🇸

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I hope that's the Spanish flag

lean plover
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It is

normal mist
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Fuck yeah, geography

lean plover
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at least you didnt use the dictatorship one lmao

normal mist
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Wouldn't even know which one that is honestly

lean plover
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a couple years ago at some sport (rally i think) they put the dictatorship song with the flag

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10/10 hilarious moment

normal mist
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I love Instagram reels where Portugal and Spain just bond and the comments are just "our hermanos"

lean plover
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Yep thats basicaly it

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for a very long time spain and portugal were the same country too

normal mist
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Yep!!

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Let's not forget that instead of throwing hands we basically decided to "yeah let's just divide the world in 2, I get an half you conquer the other one"

lean plover
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Chad moment

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i love portugal

normal mist
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I've never been to Spain but I do love our hermanos Over there

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The fact we speak somewhat different languages but still can understand like 70% of what the other is saying

lean plover
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i went to porgual and i understood about everything

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Spain is nice just, extremely hot

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temperature dropped this week tho, now only 39°garf_sit

normal mist
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Where did you go? Main cities like Porto/Lisbon?

lean plover
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somewhere to the south, just went to the beach

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and at night drive homd

normal mist
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Probably Algarve

lean plover
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I just took a road to the beach idk where i was

zenith elm
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What do you think about Belgium? Chill or no chill?

normal mist
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Never been there

zenith elm
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Can we replace France in the friends trio?

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We have good fries and chocolate

normal mist
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Sure, I don't parle pás Franços

lean plover
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That depens belgarath

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whats your main language?

zenith elm
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🍑

normal mist
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You're in

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Pack your bags

lean plover
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Ass language? def in

nova kelp
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why are we talking about french in sin?
outlaw* in sin
frenchlaw**

lean plover
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Frenchlaw is good, i respect zac

normal mist
zenith elm
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whats your best dish

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i wanna try it once

lean plover
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Portugal fish is top tier

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delicious

zenith elm
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mmmm

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If i go there, i'll try

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cause i dont like our fish here 🙁

lean plover
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i love seabass

zenith elm
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If you need to try belgium dishes

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you need to try mussles

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really good with french fries

lean plover
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I love mussles, i live at the south so seafood is generaly amazing

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specially shrimps

zenith elm
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damn i wanna eat shrimps

lean plover
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Huelva shrimps is god tier

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s tier, we are at tierlist age

zenith elm
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potatoes are really good in belgium

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and you can fry them really good

lean plover
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french fries are from belgium

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France stole the name

zenith elm
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YES

lean plover
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Well tbf it was americans having 0 clue about geography

zenith elm
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its the biggest betrayal they could have done

lean plover
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Jo, it was the americans

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they thought they were in france

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bc of the language

zenith elm
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OH PLEASE

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french ppl like to make fun of us with that

lean plover
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not joking

zenith elm
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saying they are better

lean plover
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once again, americans and geography

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A tale of two enemies

zenith elm
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true

lean plover
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i went to paris during covid and it was beautiful tho

zenith elm
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i'll do a hot take

lean plover
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it stinked for some reason

zenith elm
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we like french ppl

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just not those from Paris

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which are the most social media persons, so we see them the most

lean plover
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normandy region was rly good

zenith elm
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yeah

lean plover
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i did a ww2 tour

zenith elm
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love their crepes

lean plover
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rly gooz

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good

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Didnt take a swim at one of the main beaches

zenith elm
#

No they are cold as hell

#

never do that lol

lean plover
#

not that, just felt weird after being at a dday museum

#

with plaques of everyone that died there

zenith elm
#

ooooh ok

#

yeah

#

its more macabre

lean plover
#

its like hey we are relaxing at the bwach your grandpa died, skill issue

zenith elm
#

skill issue garf_sit

lean plover
#

Idk felt weird

zenith elm
#

yeah i can guess

lean plover
#

But yeah paris smelt rly bad

zenith elm
#

its also a hot topic in the military

lean plover
#

It was beautiful, but the smell🤢

#

Also i didnt like napoleon tomb

zenith elm
#

it would just be plain bad

lean plover
#

the entire place is amazing, s tier, then u see the brown chair hes buried and....meh

gray hazel
#

Any idea when wowhead will be updated for S3?

lean plover
#

we couldnt go to the eiffel tower

zenith elm
gray hazel
#

ahh

lean plover
#

idk why but the place was surrounded by soldiers

zenith elm
#

at least in Belgium, idk about France

lean plover
#

No clue

#

but anyway im going to make launch

#

im hungry

zenith elm
#

what are you launching ?

#

to where ?

spice surge
lean plover
hearty seal
#

I wonder if tuning will continue to be wack on launch
and how quickly it'll be fixed afterwards if that happens

balmy condor
#

with patch coming out next week this is what we're getting

#

they're most likely on a freeze at this point

hearty seal
#

the funniest universe would have Ion come on Twitter and post a "we'd rather you not play Rogue right now" clip

normal mist
#

I'm just happy I stopped caring about those expensive words, I just play the game and have fun and that's it,

spice surge
#

Might send some aura buffs, but absolutely no fixes

balmy condor
#

they might try to jam in a bunch of tuning last minute before raid launch

red schooner
hearty seal
#

(won't stop me from perfoming better than 70% of my raid's DPS)

#

but it would be funny, it's been ten years since that first one

lean plover
#

Why do people act like once patch comes out there wont be any balance

red schooner
warm vortex
#

Because people hate moonkins

#

HAHA

#

same braincell

lean plover
#

I want boomies to rot

#

but its the wow way

#

mages on top, boomies buff after a couple of weeks

#

Dh or prot pala in m+

balmy condor
#

I think the reality is just that ALL the tuning is happening after the patch comes out

#

they had a 6-8 week PTR

#

and the tuning was non-existent

#

so now they have to do basically all of it after the fact

#

which is just shit

hoary remnant
lean plover
#

it doesnt matter

balmy condor
#

yeh I mean that's not them thinking balance won't happen after the patch

lean plover
#

I know who are already rerolling

balmy condor
#

that's just people wanting to do the best biggest most op broken thing all the time

#

they're idiots for it for sure

#

but like, when tuning comes in after the patch

#

those dentheads will just reroll to the next thing

lean plover
#

Fury warrior s1garf_sit

balmy condor
#

it's an endless caravan

#

traveling from spec to spec

#

with no end

#

as long as there are numbers that could be compared even slightly, the caravan will continue

lean plover
#

Wait i have a question

fallow canopy
#

True, the caravan is moving to fatebound woohooo

lean plover
#

why arent you sleeping

balmy condor
#

I spent the night simming fatebound

red schooner
balmy condor
#

and now I'm gonna get the guide copy paste out of the way

#

and then maybe I slap together some half-assed gear page

fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

idk

lean plover
#

Idk how you do it pookie

little current
#

any bugs going into S3

#

?

red schooner
lean plover
#

!bugs

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
balmy condor
little current
lean plover
#

oh wow its very outdated

fallow canopy
red schooner
balmy condor
#

yeah no one uses that shit ass github

gleaming geyser
balmy condor
#

I mean priests and maybe evoker does idk

lean plover
#

oh its sub one thats updated

#

y bad

balmy condor
#

nah

#

none of the the rogue specs use it

scarlet orbit
#

Whispyr do you see how much each part of your guide gets viewed? Would be interesting if the "bis gear" stuff is way ahead of something like rotation

balmy condor
#

it's so much fucking effort

lean plover
#

not the github

balmy condor
lean plover
#

theres a spreadsheet in sub !bugs

balmy condor
#

sure

#

more spreadsheets for the spreadsheet god

#

god bless

lean plover
#

oh im not saying you should do it

#

i just did a !bugs here thinking it was the same

#

i was wrong

balmy condor
#

don't worry, I didn't even consider the idea of doing one

spice surge
#

What about a tierlist

red schooner
#

Bug tierlist let's go

balmy condor
lean plover
#

I would watch that

hoary remnant
balmy condor
#

very few clicks land on the rotation page, and the ones that do end up either reading the small overview and leaving, or skipping to one of the graphics and then leaving

hoary remnant
#

Probably the class has more bugs then specs in wow

lean plover
#

Rotation page on wowhead is goated

balmy condor
#

I'm entirely convinced I could put absolute gibberish halfway into the rotation page and no one would bat an eye

lean plover
#

no pls i do resd it from time to time when i have a question about rotstionf

balmy condor
#

yeah I mean you do

#

99% of my viewers do not

spice surge
#

Its wild to me how much traffic the leveling guides get

sweet sorrel
#

For a lot of ppl it's easier to ask but dont think loud people are the majority

balmy condor
#

it's overview -> leveling -> everything else for wowhead too I think

#

m+ page is higher up in that mess

#

rotation page is lower

#

but like aside from overview and leveling you're already dealing with such a small % of people

golden loom
#

when trying a new spec I look at rotation and abilities page (and talents)

balmy condor
#

how exactly that split lands isn't too important

spice surge
#

IVs overview does have as much info as wowheads does so the split is a bit different

#

But ye leveling gets crazy traffic

tight ginkgo
#

when trying a new spec I look up the wowhead author and determine how cute the author is

balmy condor
#

oh that reminds me we moved over to the new about the author sections

sweet sorrel
balmy condor
#

I have to remove all of the inserts

tight ginkgo
#

glad to know my shitposting serves a purpose 😌

harsh anchor
#

I bet the BiS/gearing section gets the most clicks

balmy condor
#

you are losing that bet

#

very hard

#

gear page is barely top 5 I think

#

like it's squeaking into 5th

zenith elm
#

whats top 1

#

tier list? lol

agile geode
#

Assassination tier s

balmy condor
#

Overview/cheat sheet

pure moth
#

1 button rotation ha

balmy condor
#

Honestly think one button is going to wreck the already low view count on rotation page

coral ibex
#

but that's my favorite page

pure moth
#

Ya prob

balmy condor
#

Wouldn’t be surprised if season 3 rotation page is legit least viewed or bottom 2-3

tight ginkgo
#

Understood, I'll set it to my new homepage 🫡

wooden timber
#

rotation is the best page

balmy condor
#

Ya well

#

Most people don’t want to read

tight ginkgo
#

i might just be getting feeble minded in my old age, but i've had to read it, then practice a bit, then re-read it and find out I skimmed over something important which i didnt understand the relevance of until i started playing more.

#

it isnt rocket science but i guess playing warrior the past few tiers has turned my brain to goo; but all this to say is the rotation section is well written and has helped me a lot thank you

patent iron
#

is there any good news as far as gameplay changes to ASS?

coral ibex
#

if its not in the pins then no

patent iron
#

....pin in the ass

#

theres a joke in there somewhere... might have to peg it for now

normal mist
#

Literally 0 changes

patent iron
#

tough crowd...

normal mist
#

Wrong crowd

fallow canopy
visual sun
#

any class writer pepega pointed to one button macro in their rotation page?

normal mist
#

Yes

#

It's there

candid sun
patent iron
#

laughingtrack.wav

normal mist
#

Says the DMG losses

fallow canopy
pure moth
patent iron
#

zero changes is crazy though

#

surely rogue is a popular class

thorny kraken
#

what is a rogue?

normal mist
#

Baby don't rogue me

fallow canopy
patent iron
main bridge
visual sun
#

is rogue a what?

normal mist
#

Love

maiden sierra
#

That one is a banger

patent iron
balmy condor
#

That would be gear page

warm vortex
#

It's been so damn long since i simmed, is it Dslice for ass?

balmy condor
#

Yes

normal mist
#

Yes

warm vortex
#

Aight

#

Yknow what, imma try spatter for shits and giggles

#

Or hybrid, rather

pure moth
maiden sierra
#

@balmy condor, do you have the power to create a random new page for the assassination page thats just a picture of your cat?

balmy condor
#

No

lean plover
maiden sierra
#

Lame

warm vortex
#

Also every time i run into a tank pulling mobs when the last pack is at around 5% i want to throw up

maiden sierra
#

That would get giga views

warm vortex
#

What about his hog

balmy condor
#

The pages are basically just templates given to us that we have to adapt to our spec within reason

maiden sierra
#

Isint the feral druid banner just some random cat?

balmy condor
#

Coloring outside the lines of the templates can hurt SEO

#

Especially headers and the like

#

So usually I can’t change those

maiden sierra
#

So no meow meow 😦

balmy condor
#

No meow meow

hot jay
# patent iron surely rogue is a popular class

There was a video talking about the potential issues with buffing mystic touch before they reverted it on PTR and it was showing basically that nobody is intentionally not bringing a monk or DH to their gally kill, only like 40-50 kills without those raid buffs

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

Images also have SEO implications

hot jay
#

But then it showed rogue

acoustic sky
hot jay
acoustic sky
tight ginkgo
#

SEO? well, i've never metadata i didn't like!

balmy condor
hot jay
#

There were around 500 kills with no rogue NOOO

warm vortex
#

I mean who would wanna play rogue

#

Can't blame them

balmy condor
#

That’s also kinda why the timeline tool exists

#

I used to do images for the openers and stuff

#

But a timeline where you can embed links into each ability holds far more SEO weight than the embeds on one image

#

So opener images are banned

#

And also why I will never be able to remove bis lists

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

My white whale

#

Deleting bis lists

midnight mist
#

the number of times yuo said seo today whispyr

#

this is why wowhead is ass now

spice surge
#

Bis lists are too powerful

#

Why the internet is ass now*

midnight mist
#

too many pages

#

and links

#

and fragmentation

#

and useless text everywehre

balmy condor
midnight mist
#

ye

golden loom
#

What the helly

balmy condor
#

Idk

midnight mist
#

leaked here

balmy condor
#

Stay mad Zac

midnight mist
#

i am ReallyMad

golden loom
#

Cant wait to play void DH

balmy condor
#

Like it’s set up that way because it works

midnight mist
#

meh

hot jay
#

I kinda miss the feeling of looking at a non-trinket, non-cantrip item and thinking damn that really good for me - jewelry is still this way I guess

balmy condor
#

If it was more efficient to just do one page with nothing on it we would

hot jay
#

But every other item slot is just nameless slop I equip

midnight mist
#

It's sure works for what it's trying to do

#

Aka funel all internet traffic into wowhead

spice surge
#

Is wowhead the funnel spec?

midnight mist
#

I can time any random bullshit there will be a wowhead page for it

spice surge
balmy condor
#

Correct that is in fact how our business model works

midnight mist
#

So I guess that's working

#

Ye

#

User wise tho idk it's quite annoying to use a website like this

#

I understand why it's done

#

But ye

marsh fjord
#

We will be getting a new rogue spec next expand anyway

#

We are getting so reworked you won’t even remember this iteration 😂

harsh anchor
#

Sub being stolen for voidman and we get ranged throwing knife spec

midnight atlas
split veldt
#

next week vault gear wont be upgradable anymore right?

#

i think i remember that happening last season

astral current
#

so what do we play in raids in s3? sub or sin?

coral ibex
#

whatever you want

#

aint shit changed just a different day

orchid pewter
#

Play a dagger spec and adjust accordingly

#

Always the play

warm vortex
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
drifting cloud
#

did someone say bis list

astral current
#

@vestal wren why do u sim helm with void ench despite the fact it's gonna be useless in s3

#

or do i miss something

vestal wren
astral current
#

aight, gotcha

vestal wren
#

it is also fairly easy to remove, just remove the enchant= from the head slot

deft shard
#

Do we play fatebound instead of dearhmark S3?

astral current
#

FB is pure ST it seems

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
astral current
#

damn, i hate tww campaign

indigo mulch
#

You will most likley play deathstalker for 99% of all the fights.

deft shard
#

Okay

indigo mulch
#

Just look at it this way, if there is an add extra or anything extra you need to hit, you do not play fatebound.

deft shard
#

Because thè dif dps in mini is huge

#

Maybe sim not equal to real gameplay

golden loom
astral current
golden loom
#

because fatebound nerfs it self if theres even an add near

#

so its unplayable anyways

deft shard
#

Maybe will be a tuning tomorrow Pepegrin

spice surge
#

All the things behind the red bars dont do anything

#

And the set is still stronger than the deathstalker 2+4p

deft shard
#

Pretty sadge

indigo mulch
#

its kind of funny that they still haven't fixed the kb bug for fatebound yet ;o

spice surge
#

Well they havent fixed the deathstalker DN bug that bricks the entire gameplay loop for sub either, and that was introduced around the start of nerubar palace garf_sit

indigo mulch
nova aspen
#

rogue has 1 hero talent for every spec

warm vortex
#

Why would they fix rogue lmao

warm vortex
deft shard
#

Should have choosed hunt bm.....

#

But i like the pov of London

warm vortex
#

Oh it's fun af, tbh hunter has been fun for me so far this expac

deft shard
#

(cutting things)

warm vortex
#

Stopped playing rogue for the first time this tier and it felt like i left an abusive relationshipo

red schooner
#

Yeah but we have the best discord

#

So

#

Its FINE

warm vortex
#

True

deft shard
#

Full of uninged player

warm vortex
#

Probably gets more attention than bliz gives to rogue aswell

deft shard
#

Do you think we will still be the last dps class from the ptr next week?

spice surge
#

I would take the simc charts with a large pinch of salt

harsh anchor
#

I take the simc charts with no salt

spice surge
harsh anchor
#

It’s the only way

astral current
#

fuck dem relationships, gotta grind some shit on new wow account

#

but i think im gonna kms doing this shitty tww stuff

#

excuse me for off-topic in unrelated channel boys, my brain is cooked after 24h shift

vocal cradle
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
halcyon flame
#

can someone give me a bleed build ? that does some ST TOO

#

FOR M+

normal mist
#

bleed, hybrid and cleave are there

halcyon flame
#

I have this atm

#

But idk beside aoe st is horrible

brave comet
#

so at best FB is only played against 2 bosses next season?

halcyon flame
#

And this stats

warm vortex
#

Play a dif spec

#

That's not me like, joking
If you want st in m+ you don't play assa

#

That's just how it be

halcyon flame
#

Ok,I quit rogue in bfa,I didnt know assa got so bad

#

15 years of assa felt nice

normal mist
#

bad?

#

it is amazing lol

#

You just gotta know how and where to do dmg

#

and what build does what

#

!bleed

prisma monolithBOT
#

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
  • Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
  • Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
  • Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
normal mist
#

read that

tight ginkgo
#

there have been a lot of iterations of sin which i didn't like. but yea i have to say it is pretty fun to play rn.

halcyon flame
#

I know ,but atm for me bleed build feels the best ,but I see shindig playing the envenom/caustic type and doing fine and I like that build more ,but it seems in these low keys its just impossible

normal mist
#

Are you doing 20s?

halcyon flame
#

no

normal mist
halcyon flame
#

it was alt this season ,wanna switch back to rogue as main

normal mist
#

if you want ST, you sacrifice your aoe

#

if you're doing low keys, other specs will obliterate your ST anyway

#

so you're better off playing bleed and destroying packs

halcyon flame
#

I might think too much,I should just have fun

normal mist
#

You CAN play hybrid/cleave but will your DM/KB target live long enough for you to start pumping like they do on 20s?

normal mist
lean plover
#

There is no fun

#

only numbers and dooming

#

and you will enjoy it

normal mist
#

This isn't outlaw

halcyon flame
#

I dont like outlaw ,sorry

#

:))

normal mist
#

fuck yeah

#

another safe soul

runic hinge
slim hamlet
#

wait help me understand new supercharged combo points. They just get spent no matter what now? You dont need to hit anything correctly or what

normal mist
#

correct

#

they are just +2

#

or +3

#

in practice you ignore them

slim hamlet
#

Nice

normal mist
#

and do your rotation normaly

slim hamlet
#

so you basically dont need to think about them at all

normal mist
#

correct

slim hamlet
#

Epic

#

Just wasted 30 mins trying to figure out why my supercharged combo point addons didnt work

normal mist
#

its like, every time you shiv, your next two finishers will be stronger

slim hamlet
#

Yur

normal mist
#

fun fact

#

a 7CP envenom with supercharged combo points, will be = a 10CP envenom

#

now imagine a 10cp darkest night envenom

red schooner
#

Now imagine that with an areterial precision shiv and mobs in spatter range

slim hamlet
#

beginning to make more sense why envenom is such a big part of our dmg

red schooner
#

And then, just for fun, imagine all of the above on a boss with a damage amp phase

slim hamlet
#

Do we intentionally go for the darkest night supercharged hits or does it just happen

red schooner
#

Thats the dry shiv.

slim hamlet
#

ohh yea

#

I am reading it now

red schooner
#

In a nutshell, after deathmark expires we get a buff called lingering darkness. So shiv + lingering + DN envenom?

slim hamlet
#

Yo thats kinda cool

#

I like having to think about these different conditions

#

instead of just the 1/2 mins

warm vortex
#

Tbh, when playing assa you don't think at all

#

Brain off, probably melted from all the fumes your inhaling

lusty kraken
#

idk personally I enjoy rogue a lot

#

it has the right amount of complexity for me

warm vortex
#

You mean sub?
Assa is pretty simple

orchid pewter
#

Both

pliant remnant
slim hamlet
#

So I assume you always want max CP for the Darkest Night envenom right? Or is it still 5+

slim hamlet
#

ahh it does indeed

#

so much text, can't read, thank you

hallow glade
#

You can supercharge it to consume it at 4+

slim hamlet
#

oh

#

well then question is the same. I very much assume you still do max CP for the dry shiv one anyways right?

hallow glade
#

Not something you need to think about doing though just consume it regularly

slim hamlet
runic hinge
#

I personally dont ever think about the supercharged combo points, better to just 5+ and 7 if its DN

slim hamlet
#

Yep yep I was thinking the same, besides for the DN one before realizing it only procced on max anyways

hallow glade
#

Sometimes I’ll find myself unable to generate enough combo points to dry shiv before lingering expires so I’ll just supercharge it but that is rare and generally just in m+

runic hinge
#

I dont have supercharger in m+

slim hamlet
#

Pretty epic that lingering actually exists

thorn thorn
slim hamlet
#

was expecting it to just be fully passive in beta

warm vortex
#

fuck aug

shell crater
#

I’m actually stupid as fuck

red schooner
red schooner
normal mist
#

Started middle of the season, AotC with my guild the night i return

#

(it was guild Aotc)

red schooner
#

The raid boss pull tracker really highlights how bad we were on sprocket

thorn thorn
#

Advice from your friendly neighborhood aug main

thorn thorn