You leveling in town? Impressive
#assassination
iron carbon
grim jay
You just tried to pick smth trivial and I doubled down 
iron carbon
And I don't think fps are lower in town than under lust on an unoptimized overwhelming mechanics boss with 19 other people spamming their abilities
BUT I might be wrong
iron carbon
Tbh, fps stay clean in fight
Just sometimes, I got strange freeze
Not every pull, not every mech
Randomly
grim jay
Could be everything, but I doubt its a gpu thing. CPU is even more important for wow tbf
I sometimes had issues with gsync causing random small freezes every now and then
red schooner
7800x3d should be more than fine
iron carbon
Yeah, it should
grim jay
7800x3d should be more than fine
Certainly, its still one of the best CPUs
drifting cloud
you killed mugzee or gally so it unlocks bosses infront of them
humble verge
oh
grim jay
Cost/perf it's goat
humble verge
didnt know this lul
grim jay
Not only cost/perf
humble verge
we did kill mugzee
drifting cloud
they put it in in like s2 of df
winged quail
It was changed to work like that in S2 df yeah
humble verge
well nice
iron carbon
Not only cost/perf
I prolly need a proper reinstall
I did change MB + CPU last year and didn't reinstall
Cuz I'm a lazy mf
grim jay
I only do a clean one for drivers if I change MB and CPU
Not Windows or anything drastic
iron carbon
Maybe some WA/addons error then
But I plan to change GPU this summer
And I move out so I will do a full reinstall as soon I'm out
humble verge
WELL ILL BE DAMNED
2 WEEKS BEFORE THE NEW TIER AND I FINALLY GET A NECK
but also the sprocket back
red schooner
Get the back, go fast
red schooner
Swap that out when you can, just cos we get the new cloak when patch drops
humble verge
i know that
ill swap to wrists
i just havent bothered to craft it
might just do it now
grim hornet
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
ancient rain
I did change MB + CPU last year and didn't reinstall
the first thing u should do when swapping mobo/cpu is clean windows reinstall
grim jay
the first thing u should do when swapping mobo/cpu is clean windows reinstall
I dont know a single person that actually does that
And some folks of those are quite knowledgeable
iron carbon
You can do if you got big drivers issue
ancient rain
Well, what can I say. I don't know a single person that doesn't do that and some folks of those are quite knowledgeable
main bridge
Get AI’d nerds
iron carbon
we never reinstall OS at work when changing hardware
iron carbon
I guess you waste time for nothing
ancient rain
i'm sorry brother. u seem to have computer issues while also being very sure that you're doing everything fine. sorry, i just wanted to help
pure moth
Take it to off topic. Let others chime in on the drama
iron carbon
I think it's more a wa/addon issue that create these little freeze
Coupled to my old GPU
normal mist
Maybe your PC is just cold
fleet copper
Anyone do a log review?
red schooner
Royal is an expert reviewer
torpid schooner
How is assassination looking for next patch
tepid sphinx
Hey I'm newish to rogue and although I have read about it from various locations, I'm struggling with energy on single target a decent bit. Is it worth stacking more haste to help with that feeling of energy starvation? For reference, I'm around like 7% haste.
Is this really a situation of just deal with it or is there more than can be done about it?
normal mist
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
normal mist
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
normal mist
@tepid sphinx answers above
tepid sphinx
Thank you!
normal mist
Be sure to actually read everything or you might leave with the wrong conclusion
brave comet
is it true you cant cleave the boss from the prison on the last gaol set on myth mug?
icy geyser
when can we expect wowhead guide to be updated for s3?
main bridge
After PTR at the earliest
icy geyser
which ends next week or when?
main bridge
Aug 5 I think
sand aurora
guys when i press Kingsbane, shouldn't the cooldown timer immediately pop up? instead what happens is i click > wait 5 seconds, then it shows the timer
why is that a thing?
lethal arrow
tbh I can also say from firsthand experience, you don't need to reinstall windows
I swapped my mobo/cpu/ram at the beginning of LoU and it was completely fine
iron carbon
guys when i press Kingsbane, shouldn't the cooldown timer immediately pop up? in...
On what? Plater? Wa? Spellbar?
grim jay
Stream? Phone? Tablet? Android Auto?
fresh kelp
Are you lagging really bad
iron carbon
Did you turn it off an turn it on again?
sand aurora
Are you lagging really bad
nope
iron carbon
I guess you lagging
sand aurora
nah ive been playing with 80-90 ping my whole life and it didnt do this
the thing is, i press it, and the ability is working, like i everything is fine its just the cooldown timer not showing
grim jay
Does it happen if you walk up to the Dummy and ONLY press kb
Nothing else
No skill before
sand aurora
its kb, deathmark, even evasion
ok nvm one of my addons was completely fucking it
its good now
iron carbon
Which addon?
sand aurora
anyway, what wa do you guys use for assas ?
sand aurora
Which addon?
lemme see
iron carbon
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
normal mist
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
normal mist
Fuck
iron carbon
Get rekt loser
normal mist
I got beaten
sand aurora
Which addon?
either method raid tools or mythic dungeon tools
iron carbon
Weird
normal mist
That's subjective
iron carbon
These shouldn't interact with spellbar
sand aurora
in your opinion
normal mist
I don't use any of those
iron carbon
Ahahahaha
sand aurora
These shouldn't interact with spellbar
yeah idk i turned it off and it worked
grim jay
Legend says if you dont use whispyrs he will fuck up your sims
raw marlin
hey @normal mist why you got a dagger?
iron carbon
Cuz he's a cool kid
normal mist
I thought it was cool
sand aurora
Legend says if you dont use whispyrs he will fuck up your sims
wby what do you use?
normal mist
Lololololol
grim jay
wby what do you use?
Whispyrs
iron carbon
Maj, just try them all
And pick the one you're more confortable with
Or do one yourself
raw marlin
I thought it was cool
i agree, im just jealous
give me dagger
like my name?
@raw marlin so good
potent turret
like my name?
No
normal mist
Not bad, you look cooler cooker
potent turret
Not bad, you look ~~cooler~~ cooker
Cooker
raw marlin
dont be editing it broski
normal mist
To late now
raw marlin
edit it back to being wrong
sand aurora
Or do one yourself
thats too much work
potent turret
Why do you have green name btw?
main bridge
Royalty
raw marlin
Why do you have green name btw?
i dont
iron carbon
thats too much work
Get one in the list then
normal mist
Why do you have green name btw?
I guess it's a perk of being cool
main bridge
potent turret
I guess it's a perk of being cool
But what makes you cool?
iron carbon
Why do you have green name btw?
He's good at deepthroat
So they give hime a green name
normal mist
potent turret
dont respond to gold names
iron carbon
You do have one?
raw marlin
You do have one?
techincally but i glue it shut
potent turret
You do have one?
Yoda?
potent turret
a mistake I made
No worries cutie. <3
iron carbon
:cute:
raw marlin
🦶
potent turret
use a gif uwu
golden loom
no
raw marlin
any cool mounts/transmog i should get for sin/rogue with the bounty?
potent turret
https://tenor.com/view/sad-cute-uwu-cat-teary-eyes-gif-17321485
moist
frozen glacier
potent lance
a question guys assa is good with magic comps?
hallow glade
Yeah usually with a shaman
potent lance
Yeah usually with a shaman
yeap i ahve shaman healer and VDH tank
i didnt saw any videos in the internet for assassin rogue PTR tests
is there anyone who uploading videos of dungeons and things for assa? in PTR i mean
hallow glade
You can watch twitch vods of people like shindig zeross and casualaddict
potent lance
You can watch twitch vods of people like shindig zeross and casualaddict
oh okk ty
meager plank
!up
prisma monolithBOT
rich dragon
is there a macro for ambush and mutilate? like when ambush is available its ambush and mutilate when its not? I found stealth bar annoying so I removed it but I know its 2 keybinds and sometime im still pressing ambush when its not available
silk sundial
Mutilate becomes ambush without a macro. I just I have 1 keybind for both
golden loom
yeah when blindside (the talent that lets you ambush outside of stealth) you literally cant cast mutilate
like u could type /cast mutilate and it would still ambush
golden loom
so just make ur stealth bar a exact copy of ur out of stealth bar and just have ambush where u normally have mutilate
gusty mirage
Yeah they changed it in DF, mutilate automatically changes to ambush when blindside procs
rich dragon
iam casting mutilate here
rich dragon
so just make ur stealth bar a exact copy of ur out of stealth bar and just have ...
i think i removed my stealth bar lol. How do I find it again
golden loom
idk about elv ui sadly cause I use default 
rich dragon
fk me i thought making it 2 separate press was smart but now I feel stupid
iron carbon
fk me i thought making it 2 separate press was smart but now I feel stupid
It was, 2 years ago
You just a bit slow
iron carbon
Looks like 2560x1440?
brave comet
idk about elv ui sadly cause I use default <:garf:1320173032743899157>
uwu, you'd know, how does cleave work out from inside the gaols, they definitely reach out to the boss right in the last set?
nova aspen
ultra-wide monitors are based
golden loom
uwu, you'd know, how does cleave work out from inside the gaols, they definitely...
I think so
but from last week I just dont go into the last gaol
rich dragon
Looks like 2560x1440?
3440x1440, i have my work stuff to do but dont want to buy second monitor. Screen is good for opening 2 windows. also works well on games lol
brave comet
I think so
i see youre holding your deathmark for another 15 seconds at the 4 min mark
is it actually better?
golden loom
i see youre holding your deathmark for another 15 seconds at the 4 min mark
yeah was nice to avoid potential frost boots + cleave gaol adds
brave comet
oh i never checked for a long time but thats not an uncommon strat
rich dragon
is there a macro for ambush and mutilate? like when ambush is available its ambu...
figure out a macro if anyone's wondering this
#showtooltip
/cast [stealth] Ambush; [stance:2] Ambush; Mutilate
main bridge
Mutilate already changes to ambush automatically
rich dragon
i mean i just posted a video saying that didnt apply to me for some reason
golden loom
i mean i just posted a video saying that didnt apply to me for some reason
yeah the thing where it transforms is when the blindside talent procs
rich dragon
i know this talent thats why I want this macro, you guys saying it transforms but the video i showed above didnt really transform any of the button it only makes amush available
golden loom
i know this talent thats why I want this macro, you guys saying it transforms bu...
you didnt have a proc in the video
you only had subterfuge active at the start
warm vortex
Whem the proc happens, you can see an overlay effect
golden loom
warm vortex
Iirc
warm vortex
haha no worries
rich dragon
no i mean the different case, i only mean subterfuge
rich dragon
ya but that mutilate didnt transform to amush in subterfuge
thats why I was bothered
golden loom
yeah makes sense but also thats normal
rich dragon
well i figure out a solution for my own problem lol. that macro makes it amush when its subterfuge and mutilate when not
thick zinc
guys, when I am at mythic plus, do I keep CT on single target fights like boss fights?
rich dragon
my stealth bar does not detect subterfuge
warm vortex
guys, when I am at mythic plus, do I keep CT on single target fights like boss ...
Depends on build i belive
rich dragon
so when its out of stealth its out, like I can only cast ambush once
warm vortex
Bleed, i think you do? But hybrid you don't
But im not to sure, so someone else can probably verify
waxen oyster
CT is worth over env filler on st yes
royal lantern
guys, when I am at mythic plus, do I keep CT on single target fights like boss ...
if you play bleed build yes
otherwhise no
waxen oyster
very few people should not play bleed
iron carbon
3440x1440, i have my work stuff to do but dont want to buy second monitor. Scree...
Neat
hard river
#showtooltip
/cast [stealth] Ambush; [stance:2] Ambush; Mutilate
btw, [bonusbar:1] will cover all stealth stances (stealth, vanish, subterfuge)
outlaw uses a similar [bonusbar:1] ambush; sinister strike
rich dragon
btw, `[bonusbar:1]` will cover all stealth stances (stealth, vanish, subterfuge)
wait so its only /cast [bonusbar:1]?
hard river
yeah, that will detect stealth
stark matrix
iam casting mutilate here
this is because you don't have a stealth bar/have both on the bar
once again blizzard ui chads stay winning
rich dragon
stealth bar seems like a really terrible idea to me at the first place so I deleted it. like are you suppose to actually put stealth ability on that bar and cover your entire first action bar? like if I put garrote on 1 and I literally cannot use garrote for the duration of subterfuge. Or are you suppose to copy paste ur entire first action bar to stealth bar but only except ambush/mutilate? then if I need to change anything on the first action bar I have to change the stealth bar too, which I might as well just use that macro and delete stealth bar
runic hinge
mine are just mirrored except ambush where mutilate is
nimble tartan
guys… wow is so back in a few weeks
shy axle
analog field
What talents are we playing in stix nowadays ? CT ? or go the classic ST?
runic hinge
guys… wow is so back in a few weeks
We’re so hype 
nimble tartan
hell yeah
dude im so old that a player in my guild has a dad that plays wow and we carried him for a mount yesterday
im unc
deep gyro
What talents are we playing in stix nowadays ? CT ? or go the classic ST?
Um neither vicious venoms and spatter
runic hinge
i forgot abou tthis
There’s a mount for filling it all out
half tartan
Is there any third build variation that would possibly be used for a possible boss fight? Like maybe a Crimson Tempest for an aoe boss?
Hypothetically for raiding
waxen oyster
Probably the ovinaxx build
if that many adds
unlikely
spatter is all you need to do aoe as this spec
half tartan
Figured
humble verge
There’s a mount for filling it all out
oh alright
analog field
In the start of the season we were playing the ovi build for Stix no ? I think that was on the wowhead guide
humble verge
There’s a mount for filling it all out
so how am i even getting these tho
main bridge
Mouse over them
runic hinge
so how am i even getting these tho
You do the other delves but you fill the belt by doing overcharged delves
Can just repeat either of the two of them on level 1
haughty flicker
It didn't work
i mouseover in discord and it no show
abrasive muffin lied to me
main bridge
Get owned nerd
humble verge
You do the other delves but you fill the belt by doing overcharged delves
wait, am i maxing the titan console on 1 char
and i can max it on alts as well
or is it per character then
oh wait
i was thinking the console worked outside the delves lul
im still sleepy
fallow canopy
its account wide
waxen oyster
have you not been playing?
fallow canopy
you can do them on tier 1 if you don't need to farm gilded or don't want to do the harder ones, as long as they are charged (overcharged? don't remember the exact term)
humble verge
honestly
either charged
or i got spark burst
Xd
i didnt bother to do it
were not doing reclears so i dont see nay reason to em
waxen oyster
tf
humble verge
sorry im just lazy doing new content sometimes
waxen oyster
i mean on a guild not doing reclears
humble verge
yeah but
you still have to gather 20 people
and not everyone can be available at the same time in summertime
waxen oyster
Imo if people cant commit to even 1d on farm
waxen oyster
humble verge
I dont enjoy raiding with people like that
but would you rather spend the whole summer knowing you cant go on vacation cause your GM somehow needs you to stay 1 day every week for reclear
when youre in your mid 30s
with 3 kids
humble verge
well yeah thats normal, but most companies i know make their employees atleast take a week or two break in the summer
waxen oyster
If i take vacation i usually post out for a week.
humble verge
???
humble verge
because not all countries are like California where there is constant 25 degrees all year
so you wanna go where its hot once in a while
get a tan
go swim
waxen oyster
I hate the heat
also i tan super easily
from just being a responsible adult and doing things outside
Though am i an asshat for slapping people who sunburn easily
in their red spots
humble verge
marsh fjord
Guys, if you know you not getting other deathmark or kingsbane? and you like 1 shiv charge up. do you just shiv before boss dies?
hypothicalyl speaking in raid
marsh fjord
But if youi dont get other KB off, lets say boss is around 200 million hp or something
humble verge
no, cause i dont shiv outside kb window
hearty seal
I mean, yes, if I can make a quick approximation of "KB comes online in 40 seconds and this MF has like 300 mil left", I just shiv'em
marsh fjord
Yes thats what i meant
hearty seal
(tbh I'm not sure why I said 40 seconds, you shouldn't have a shiv at that point, let's pretend I said 30)
marsh fjord
haha i know what you meant don't worry 😄
humble verge
So your gonna sit on that shiv charge and do nothing with it 😄
no, cause outside kb window i forget i have shiv
rain coral
does shadowmelt from night elf has any useful effects other than juat vanishing from a fight
waxen oyster
drops combat lets you restealth on trash
balmy condor
No shot you just said shadowmeld is useless in m+
People literally race swap to night elf SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of m+
rain coral
People literally race swap to night elf SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of m+
as a rogue?
rain coral
drops combat lets you restealth on trash
ye but no master assasin and no carnage
balmy condor
as a rogue?
as anything honestly
prisma carbon
you play meld to avoid casts on you or to do skips
rain coral
y but why as a rogue ?
thorn grotto
How am I to blame my healer if I actually live though?
prisma carbon
on IPA in cinderbrew you can meld the dot off you
balmy condor
I don’t think that works in rookery
But there’s plenty of cheese and even if you can’t cheese you get to restealth sometimes if it lets you
So it’s just really REALLY good
rain coral
i get the drops combat thing, but its not like an extra vanish, so what the efect than?
balmy condor
Well you can drop combat and then stealth
Shadowmeld itself doesn’t give you stealth, but you’re not in combat, so you can then stealth
balmy condor
Well when you stealth you don’t use a vanish charge, do you?
rain coral
no but lets say we are amids fight
prisma carbon
you are missing the point
its not a dps button like vanish
golden loom
i get the drops combat thing, but its not like an extra vanish, so what the efec...
you meld -> press stealth bind
rain coral
and it wont use my vanish?
balmy condor
YOU ARE PRESSING STEALTH
rain coral
even if the fight is going on?
prisma carbon
xd
prisma carbon
...
balmy condor
How are we gonna know how that works
red schooner
Meanwhile me casting berserking in m+, slightly more damage, worth.
red schooner
rain coral
and iam asking if you can stealth in a fight
balmy condor
Yes, meld lets you stealth
rain coral
ahhhh oke 🙂
golden loom
but iam asking cause i got stealth and vanish on a makro
wait but if you use that outside of combat u would also use a vanish charge no?
red schooner
wait but if you use that outside of combat u would also use a vanish charge no?
Could be a macro that changes buttons based on combat/no combat
balmy condor
I’m guessing it’s like stealth !stance:1
rain coral
no if iam outside a fight
red schooner
I have one for shroud/kingsbane
rain coral
my makro uses stealht
red schooner
For I can't be bothered swapping a bind.
golden loom
what the helly!
rain coral
but if iam in a fight my makro uses vanish to go into the shadow
i just checked my makro works
🙂
if iam in a fight and do shadowmelt, i go stealth and dont waste a vanish
so yea you got 3 charges of vanish than actually with shadowmelt
oke well thats massive than^^
golden loom
I think you should make the meld/stealth macro tho
cause otherwise if ur trying to meld -> press ur stealth bind and combat doesnt drop
u will just vanish
rain coral
my makro works fine that way
cause i got stealth --> than in fight i go vanish to get my vanish on cd, than shadowmelt and than restealth and than if necessary my last vanish charge
- my vanish is on cd 🙂
rain coral
just checked it out on the puppets and its crazy ^^
well it feels like cheating ^^
3 charges of vanish^^
stiff fern
In a pull like first of priory, if you're playing bleed, is there a point you stop spreading rupture and focus on splatter?
royal lantern
"meld is insane for rogue" is something people think cus they kinda dont know that it ultimately isnt a big deal
stiff fern
Or is rupture on as many targets as possible the play assuming they'll live long enough.
royal lantern
In a pull like first of priory, if you're playing bleed, is there a point you st...
well, you dont spread too small stuff that dies anyway
rain coral
well i mean on trash that doesnt detect should be fine
royal lantern
your priority should be spreading bleeds too important targets where dmg matters but not spend 20seconds doing FoK->rupture on repeat
rain coral
and why its not working on bosses?
royal lantern
because it doesnt work on bosses
spice surge
Bosses keep you in perma combat
golden loom
cause combat wont drop on bosses
royal lantern
and it has nothing to do with detect on trash, sometimes you just dont get out of combat 
like, if nelf was a BIG deal
more people would play it
but it never really was
its nice and one of the better ones avaible ofc (especially with all the meld skip bullshit you can do in m+, but tbh dps isnt really doing that often rn), but its not "ill get another vanish" that gives you +10% dmg
waxen oyster
The biggest dps gain of meld iirc
was SL s3/4 outlaw
where meld dispatch was an extra buff
golden loom
yeah like meld on tanks is kinda cringe gamebreaking
waxen oyster
that was also when you had the conduit that basically was high enough by s3 to have like a 97% chance of another buff
waxen oyster
yeah like meld on tanks is kinda cringe gamebreaking
dwarf too on some bosses
golden loom
yeah that aswell
waxen oyster
where bleed dispel matters
royal lantern
that was also when you had the conduit that basically was high enough by s3 to h...
you know a bit too much about outlaw mate
golden loom
but also the fraction of the population where that matters
royal lantern
waxen oyster
i play all 3
golden loom
is kinda whatever
waxen oyster
nah my rogue was created in wod
golden loom
had a good killtimer on sprocket today also, good day 🤝
royal lantern
by reaching the "i dont give a fuck anymore and play the spec that i think is fun rn" point a couple years back
idk
cba anymore constantly swapping
waxen oyster
had a good killtimer on sprocket today also, good day 🤝
my last sprocket died just as my dm came back
royal lantern
not like my spec choice matter when we literally never died from dmg
pure moth
how tf do you play rogue for 8+ years
Ive played sin since wrath.. its a thing
golden loom
not like my spec choice matter when we literally never died from dmg
yeah that was last time I killed it aswell, didnt get to send a deathmark 
and now it died right after kingsbane which is kinda perfect
royal lantern
like, if somebody in my raid would tell me to swap specs for prog
I want them to swap out the people that chain wipe us all the time
waxen oyster
i liked dfa sub
royal lantern
it kinda turned into assa only somewhere during BfA
golden loom
I wanna try some sub next tier, mostly cause I kinda feel like I cant learn it on a dummy
so I wanna prog a boss on it
royal lantern
I wanna try some sub next tier, mostly cause I kinda feel like I cant learn it o...
i can never learn a spec on a dummy
some basic graps, sure
golden loom
yeah
royal lantern
but actually learning stuff only happens in real fighs for me lol
red schooner
i can never learn a spec on a dummy
I've gotta spend like 2 hours on a dummy before I feel confident trying it in any piece of content
golden loom
like u need stuff to be automatic and if you learn that while playing fight mechanics thats perfect
royal lantern
idk, when i have to pay attention to boss mechanics while doing my rotation im no familiar with, it feels as if i get a grasp of it faster
golden loom
yeah
fallow canopy
ye that's the flow state
red schooner
I just panic about being dead weight in groups so I feel like I have to hit a certain level before I can do group content
golden loom
just gotta be good enough at games to not be the worst player in the party even on a new spec
red schooner
just gotta be good enough at games to not be the worst player in the party even ...
I'm normally not the worst but I gotta hit my own standards
golden loom
yeah own standards while learning are even more fun imo
storm forum
I've played wow since WotLK, nothing made me learn how to play better besides joining a mythic guild and getting slammed by bosses.
golden loom
cause u see the improvement, not just the mistakes
storm forum
I was a turbo shitter until BFA
royal lantern
I've played wow since WotLK, nothing made me learn how to play better besides jo...
playing with other good people is a wakeup call
its REALLY easy to pug midlevel m+ and heroic raids and think you play good cus you do top dmg most of the time
golden loom
like when u feel like ur at a point of being "good" or whatever, you start to get mad at mistakes you make instead of being happy with whatevers going on
royal lantern
then you go into higher content, see more actually good players and its like "oh shit"
red schooner
I've played wow since WotLK, nothing made me learn how to play better besides jo...
I was a casual player mostly til this expansion and then I got tricked into mythic raiding
golden loom
then you go into higher content, see more actually good players and its like "oh...
no no no you got that wrong, if you are being outdamaged that means the enemy (teammate) spec is broken!
royal lantern
no no no you got that wrong, if you are being outdamaged that means the enemy (t...
i have no enemys
except boomkins
red schooner
'Hey goat, wanna mythic raid? It'll be fun', followed by straight into kyveza and court prog
royal lantern
'Hey goat, wanna mythic raid? It'll be fun', followed by straight into kyveza an...
from the best boss this expansion into the worst
red schooner
I got tricked
royal lantern
you saw it all
fallow canopy
from the best boss this expansion into the worst
facts
storm forum
playing with other good people is a wakeup call
During EP my guild had like 6 rogues and I think that's when I really leveled up from not bottom of the meter most of the time to actual CE capable raider
red schooner
you saw it all
They had me do webs as well
royal lantern
They had me do webs as well <:uglyassdog:1370509827280867400>
i mean, unless its a trainwreck guild thats a good thing, cus it means they think you can handle a important mechanic
red schooner
i mean, unless its a trainwreck guild thats a good thing, cus it means they thin...
I mean...
Dunno I had a low bar to clear there 
royal lantern
ngl, if my 2nd mythic boss ever was fucking court, i would just delete my sub 
storm forum
I got tricked into mythic raiding too. My brother didn't wanna play WoW alone/just with his pvp friends so he roped me into joining a guild with him
red schooner
ngl, if my 2nd mythic boss ever was fucking court, i would just delete my sub <:...
It wasn't a fun time
golden loom
During EP my guild had like 6 rogues and I think that's when I really leveled up...
it might've made me into a Parse Peter but my classleader (very classic thing) when I started last year had been maintank for world 3 Argus -> swapped to parse hunting on classic rogue and that made me want to improve to not get flamed
red schooner
I got tricked into mythic raiding too. My brother didn't wanna play WoW alone/ju...
Never believe their lies.
golden loom
and then I had to play expose armor
humble verge
finally somewhat rich weee
royal lantern
and then I had to play expose armor <:garf:1320173032743899157>
expose armor slave lmao
storm forum
finally somewhat rich weee
This is too many digits can someone good at math help me out?
red schooner
I went from 2 expansions straight of no group content due to massive anxiety issues to CE raiding. Things escalated
royal lantern
I went from 2 expansions straight of no group content due to massive anxiety iss...
tbh, my best friend started playing the game as a healer and 2months later was healing Mythic Tomb of Sargeras
sometimes it happens
golden loom
https://tenor.com/view/kill-stacy-bitch-4k-that%27s-crazy-caught-gif-39801414261...
atleast now I have the knowledge of never ever taking on such an assignment again
red schooner
tbh, my best friend started playing the game as a healer and 2months later was h...
Horrifying levels of progression
storm forum
Wow is crazy sometimes
golden loom
I mean I also started playing wow cause I was waiting for a major osrs update
fast forward 1,5 years
"this will be a fun project for like a week"
thorn thorn
tbh, my best friend started playing the game as a healer and 2months later was h...
Went from barely doing 10s to trying to push keys to getting into mythic they circuling back to AOTC raiding and casual play
Sometimes it makes a full circle
red schooner
I just wanted to dip my toes into maybe some normal raids or low m+ and things got out of hand
golden loom
atleast u got to do some fkin gaming
and then re-progging mugzee over and over
(same boat I know the feeling)
royal lantern
i mean, you do mythic now
that means you are literally playing raids in the top 1% level
can be proud about that mate
red schooner
and then re-progging mugzee over and over
Please don't remind me
red schooner
can be proud about that mate <:dracthyr_kek:1002454136706580620>
Thank you 
royal lantern
and then re-progging mugzee over and over
we killed mugzee in 3 pulls last week 
golden loom
Please don't remind me <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
todays re-clear
thorn thorn
Just remember there are a good chunk of people who struggle to clear aotc each season and cant do 10s
royal lantern
tbh 1 wipe was cus a tank got a dc
thorn thorn
Yall are the elite
red schooner
we killed mugzee in 3 pulls last week <:2ez:587982296066424843>
- 89 pulls
thorn thorn
royal lantern
Just remember there are a good chunk of people who struggle to clear aotc each s...
AotC is ~25% of the playerbase or smth like that
getting CE is literally in the top 1%
golden loom
Honestly what I really want is next tiers heroic raid to be good
royal lantern
sometimes slightly more in really long and easier tiers
golden loom
I did so much heroic pugging in nerubar
have barely done any this tier
like nerubar heroic pugs were actually so insanely fun
thorn thorn
I would love to give CE pushing another shot but I would never get accepted in any CE team with my work schedule
royal lantern
eh, heroic tends to be good most of the time, cus thats what they desing the raid around
thorn thorn
Life gets in the way smh
red schooner
Honestly what I really want is next tiers heroic raid to be good
The social raid got curve really early this tier and then sort of died
golden loom
eh, heroic tends to be good most of the time, cus thats what they desing the rai...
yeah I just kinda hate every boss this tier and I don't think any of the heroic bosses are that great
compared to kyveza/silken/ansurek all being omega banger heroic fights
red schooner
compared to kyveza/silken/ansurek all being omega banger heroic fights
Nah drunk social raid kyveza was horrifying
Mythic kyveza was fun though
golden loom
Nah drunk social raid kyveza was horrifying
this might be the most demonic pug of all time (reminder that circlet is out by this time) idk the boss almost enraged?
6:09 kill time
but yeah idk I never got to do past first 4 on mythic but I just loved heroic pugs
thorn thorn
Nah drunk social raid kyveza was horrifying
Last time I did a social raid we ended up "progging" the second boss of NP for 2 hours
red schooner
Last time I did a social raid we ended up "progging" the second boss of NP for 2...
I got roped into raid leading it
Though second boss nerubar program is unholy
waxen oyster
this might be the most demonic pug of all time (reminder that circlet is out by ...
You have two rogues?
distant cliff
do you do both weapons same enchant.. or do 1 radiatn power and one depths?
waxen oyster
seek help
fleet copper
Is anyone available to help with a log review for me?
nimble tartan
someone in my raid team joined a guild that were progging mugzee in the month we were off basically
we cleared the tier months ago he got a sick brain to want to do that
they killed gally last week though so thats cool
golden loom
Well I am not gonna gear the other 2
thorn thorn
Is anyone available to help with a log review for me?
Post it and someone smart will take a gander
golden loom
But was fun leveling as the other Specs (and doing some pugs) to kinda learn them
red schooner
someone in my raid team joined a guild that were progging mugzee in the month we...
We have someone in a wr 200 guild who finishes prog and then immediately joins our rfwl asses for more prog
golden loom
But like if for example next tier I would play both assa and sub for prog, I would ofc do that on the same char
red schooner
He scares me
red schooner
thats a real sicko
We cleared pre rfwl this season and he looked for a lower ranked guild to merc in
Dudes insane
golden loom
Doing it for the love of the game, what a king
fleet copper
Hoping can get some tips on ways to improve, thanks
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tcJhn62wTdMFKLPZ?fight=8&type=damage-done
red schooner
Doing it for the love of the game, what a king
I think raiding with us animals makes him appreciate his main guild more
'At least these guys ain't chugging glue each night'
waxen oyster
Does he play a meme spec in it
red schooner
Nah, he just plays his alt healer
deft shard
omg did i finally learn to play this class???
hallow glade
Hoping can get some tips on ways to improve, thanks
https://www.warcraftlogs.com...
- you can macro shiv with thistle tea (you only cast it 4 times the whole fight)
- you can send low-cp ruptures on adds (i.e., electro-shocker) before they die for the energy refund (this is actually bugged and gives you more energy than it should)
- rank 1 log gets a LOT of caustic spatter damage with his 4 min cd set and zoldyck, as sin this is basically a fight thing which you cant always control
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
golden loom
1. you can macro shiv with thistle tea (you only cast it 4 times the whole fight...
while I agree with macroing tea, he also did get his teas used, when it gets auto-used it however does not show up in casts
but u can check resources -> energy to confirm the gain etc etc
humble verge
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
lucid silo
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
weary spear
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
raw marlin
who is the coolest kid in here?
thorn thorn
who is the coolest kid in here?
@normal mist or @balmy condor
Both are very cool people
humble verge
no me
raw marlin
i think its @thorn thorn
maybe @humble verge
def not @marsh fjord
or @potent turret
humble verge
kek
raw marlin
@normal mist was it you??
marsh fjord
are you a dm?
im a mc
potent turret
mindcontrol?
marsh fjord
mega chad
raw marlin
Can i be Royal Not D Flux ?
humble verge
prolly not
potent turret
prolly not
what do you know about it
humble verge
what do you know about it
potent turret
I still havent watched a single one of those
humble verge
missing out
raw marlin
Can we make a petition for Uberscot to not use these fucking rabbit/human animations
humble verge
no
thorn thorn
@fallow canopy 
brazen ivy
Hey guys, is there a macro that I can just click the sharpening stone and put it on my mh, and another one for my OH?
thorn thorn
sorry mid key
fallow canopy
<@197687900878405632> <:xla:1283127722180087808>
humble verge
jaja decided to cast HS, but then he just disconnected - surely not intentional
:3333
potent turret
jaja decided to cast HS, but then he just disconnected - surely not intentional
why +7. thought you was a gamer.
potent turret
people did 20s at that ilvl
potent turret
in dragonflight s1
potent turret
wtf that was so doable tho
potent turret
who said that
humble verge
mage didnt wanna wait
.
potent turret
then that name will be useless?
potent turret
tell him to go back to last season then
potent turret
arcane meta (bad word)?
haughty flicker
m*ge
alpine grotto
!talent
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
humble verge
oh its both
humble verge
:(
thorn thorn
Uberscot is top 5
humble verge
:)
tender ember
Hello
I am new to assassination and rogue in general. How does garrotte works? Does it apply silence without talents?
The iron wire talent just confuses me. It states silence is prolonged but in garrotte tooltip there is no word about silence
meager prism
It doesn't silence without Iron Wire
brisk flicker
Iron Wire states that if you use it from stealth/subterfuge, it silences for 5 seconds
Iron Wire doesn't prolong it. It's the reason it can silence.
runic hinge
Uberscot is top 5
Hey it’s me bottom 5
tender ember
i see. thank you. must be an issue with russian translation
harsh anchor
peanits
misty holly
Has the ptr gone to release candidate build yet? That's the point where I know nothing else is going to be added for us 😦
balmy condor
Has the ptr gone to release candidate build yet? That's the point where I know ...
no and for good reason cause everything is fucked
worthy rose
never forget
balance druids doing 60mil dps
melting a boss in 20 seconds
one dude doing 60 one dude doing 55 and another doing 20
apparently you need 135mil dps total to melt a boss in 20 seconds
thorn thorn
@worthy rose I have decided I am playing FDK next season
Which I guess makes me fotm scum now
worthy rose
join the club
haughty flicker
worthy rose
i went from rogue to dk
and from unholy dk to now testing frost
to try get into the playstyle for next season
forgot how shit rogue was compared to dk
playing rogue and dk back to back
rogue is at mercy of tank and healer
had one racist tank just do the most dogshit pulls that fucked me over for stealth so i just left the dungeon
haughty flicker
depends on tuning but probably yeah
thorn thorn
Leaving dungeons because of no restealth is 
Alexa pull up that Whispyr rant about restealths
runic hinge
why be cringe
It’s all I know how to do
runic hinge
depends on tuning but probably yeah
What if I committed to shadow when they announced 2 shadow crash charges before any ptr testing happening
thorn thorn
What if I was playing shadow this season already
runic hinge
My shadow is 679 and I’ve bricked at least 3 of quakes keys so I mean
I’m doing it right tbh
thorn thorn
my shadow is like 650
and i have carried 10s as disc simply by existing cuz i dont get accepted as shadow
thorn thorn
good in raid
worthy rose
everythings unbalanced
worthy rose
shadow was always good in raid tho
the single target and raid potential of shadow was never in question
its just been horrendously dogshit in mythic dungeons
LOL
thorn thorn
its dead in keys cuz archon is omega dead
thorn thorn
so it just has prio and boss dam as VW and can do decent aoe with almost no ST damage loss
worthy rose
blizz took one look at shadow being strong in one expansion and were like "yeah never again"
thorn thorn
they just forgot to give it aoe during the rework
and accidentally killed archon with it
worthy rose
its interesting to see how frost is getting reworked as a DK tho
obltierate being your one spell to do it all now being split into two
one for aoe and one for single target
thorn thorn
But also archon has mega cringe gameplay with the rework and set bonus so nobody will be playing it for funsies even with it being something like a 15% loss
worthy rose
if i play my priest next seasonm
u best bet im using one button rotationm
coz yolo
thorn thorn
Dont need to
Vw is genuinely lobotomized
its not even in competition with Archon anymore its just better
Archon gets 90s voidform on a 2m cd and if you drop it, its a massive damage loss so you have to play it very well
VW you just occasionally do dam for 12s every 30
And do 15% more dam than Archon
And you can watch breaking bad or something idk
worthy rose
doing insane damage for 12 seconds every 30 seconds?
that sounds kind of like unholy DK gameplay
or even frost dk gameplay with pillar of frost
🤔
im liking what im hearing
thorn thorn
VW is just doing dam after every void torrent usage, 30s cd
It gets stronker every minute with dark ascension
But its on a very short cd cycle
And no gimmic of trying to minmax uptime on cds
You just press cds and shit out damage
worthy rose
i wonder how easy dungeons wil be next season post balancing tbh
coz we are technically 20ilvls or so above what we should be at
so everything feels cakewalk easy
but when ilvl cant crutch anymore wonder how it will play out
thorn thorn
we see how many people got carried by turbo boost
worthy rose
my dumbass made the mistake of forgetting all the people ive carried to 3k
and then when guildies ask me to run dungeons
i look at thie rscore "oh nic etheyr 3050 this will be easy"
no infact it was not easy
it was difficult as fuck
💀
thorn thorn
Im trying to get my 3k but its annoying cuz I rarely get invites for a very obvious reason
thorn thorn
i see myself doing like 20mil dps on a pull
I have had keys where I (aug) beat another dps in aoe by a lot
And it makes me just wanna uninstall everytime it happens
Cuz its an early red flag that the key will not go well
worthy rose
when it happens on the first pull
thats when you kindly say
"oh shit my dogs on fire"
and leave
thorn thorn
And everytime its happened its never good
thorn thorn
I do for the lolz
main bridge
harunie is going to speed run the mark of shame in s3
worthy rose
harunie is going to speed run the mark of shame in s3
im gonna wear it with pride
thorn thorn
(Both of these were terrible keys)
worthy rose
ainnobody about wasting time in this racket
if the team dont cut it i aint part of it
the mark of shame doesnt really matter tho to most people who have a solid team
in the off chance you pug a key and then you leave coz theyr all dogshit
thorn thorn
I make a habit of never being the first to leave a key
Ok actually thats a lie
There is exactly one time in my history of the game I was the first to leave a key
main bridge
most dishonorable
thorn thorn
And it was cuz I got stuck with this trashcan bdk that was always capped on runic power and pressed on DR on stonevault
And we got super stuck on the first boss cuz he just died everytime to the tank mechanic
And after the 4th he would just say "healer external???"
Like nah
Gtfo
Read a guide you lemming, eat shit
worthy rose
you know what hilariously makes me lose my shit
and crash out
when dk's dont use runic power
or when pallies dont use holy power
thats like a rogue who refuses to envenom or use finihsing moves
thorn thorn
He had less healing than the shadow priest
worthy rose
coz thats what theyr building to with runic power dumping or holy power dumping
thorn thorn
If you can believe that
worthy rose
they literally arent using their finishing moves
thorn thorn
He actually spent zero runic power
worthy rose
like what da actual braindead fuck is that
LOL
you just see a full light blue bar
triggering
like WHAT ARE YOU DOING BRO
PRESS THAT DAMN DEATH STRIKE
thorn thorn
I was pres tho so I could carry him on trash pulls if he didnt die
Painfully but feasible
worthy rose
crackup
thorn thorn
But I cant do anything if he dies instantly to tank mechanic on bosses
nova kelp
wait HOW do they not use runic? they'd just be giga rune starved if they don't use runic
thorn thorn
Bro idk
worthy rose
becuase they are giga rune starved
thorn thorn
I didnt ask
worthy rose
they just dont play properly
thorn thorn
I just saw his bar was always blue
nova kelp
like they'd be able to do like a handful of attacks and then just do nothing for like 1 minute
worthy rose
youre thinking about it fromt he perspective fo someone whos playing properly
thorn thorn
And he had less hps than the shadow priest
worthy rose
youw ont understand a noob
thorn thorn
I didnt ask questions or take notes lmao
worthy rose
you cant understand a noobs mindset coz you dont know whats going on in thier mind
or what isnt going on in their mind
they probably dont even understand how the class works and the interactions between abilities tbh
thorn thorn
considering they expected me to external them every tank mechanic so they could survive
Yea
main bridge
i don't understand why they didn't just instantly understand their class like you
idiots
worthy rose
youw ould think after a couple weeks just playing the thing
theyd understand how things work out
but apparently thats too much to ask for for majority of wow players
hell majority of them are too proud to use one button rotation thinking they know best
thorn thorn
i don't understand why they didn't just instantly understand their class like yo...
Its not even that
If that had literally read their abilities minimum
They would realize not spending runic power very bad
worthy rose
a core component to DK'ing is to spend runic power to regenerate runes
if he doesnt understand that he didnt spend enough time levelling and understanding
in some ways im thankful blizz made levlling so easy so i can get up to speed on toons faster
but its a double edged sword coz you get mad potatos
waxen oyster
a core component to DK'ing is to spend runic power to regenerate runes
Most people just dont press enough buttons
as any spec
fathom nimbus
Read a guide you lemming, eat shit
brother i was about to say you sound exactly like a guy i know
and then i checked ur profile
💀
thorn thorn
and then i checked ur profile
Surprise bitch its me
amber brook
does blind work on gally adds?
balmy condor
think so
amber brook
oki
orchid pewter
does blind work on gally adds?
Yes
subtle tundra
miau
grim jay
Meow
vestal cliff
zenith elm
Good morning fellow rogues