assassination

[cursive hatch]

I'm just hoping for more sub buffs, because some of the fights are going to be really annoying to play DS on with target swaps

[burnt star]

Even if u had vanish.. the timing to use it on a fight with constant damage ia fkn crazy

[main solar]

Like there isn't even a "this is cool" part to it

[crude helm]

Yeah like DKs get a horse and at best I get a tiny coin covered in combat sfx

[versed mica]

I just hate doing all this fine tuning with my rogue rotation, just to have something stupid fuck up

Meanwhile, when I play my DH alt not even looking at the proper rotation, I do huge numbers no problem

It's so fucking stupid

[half tartan]

with sin getting 10-13% net increase, won't sub just be so much behind? Doesn't this just make sin that much better relatively?

[cursive hatch]

depends on the fight design, sub can do well with damage phases if they align, or if we need to target swap a lot, etc., but yeah I think its generally behind at this point until they give it more buffs

[half tartan]

I want a razsageth style fight

[cursive hatch]

I know my sub sims were 250k~ ahead of my sin sims, but that was before all my upgrades this week. Haven't checked, and sub is harder to play than sin

[normal mist]

Sims shouldnt be used to compare classes / specs

[plush isle]

sin gonna be pretty shitty at the demon hunter fight

[normal mist]

how come

if i understood correctly you could reliably stick all 3 targets together ish

crimson tempest bonk

[cursive hatch]

until your target goes and hangs out outside of the arena

but I haven't checked current timings on the fight

[main solar]

Don't they jump around a lot like council of dreams? Or is this one more manageable?

[normal mist]

i've heard this was more manageable

[cursive hatch]

they do, though they can be grouped up by following one of the bosses like council of dreams

not as spread out

[main solar]

good, cause I hated that fight lol

[sour skiff]

the mythic fight was horrible with mark imo

[normal mist]

Oh there was mythic raid testing already?

[plush isle]

maybe my group wasn't that good but the whole dh shtick with charging at random targets, at the tank, trying to juggle all the bleeds felt terrible, deathstalker design not so suited.

[sour skiff]

i also found forgeweaver araz horrible for deathstalker as well

[cursive hatch]

forgeweaver and potentially 2nd to last boss are the main reasons I'll be practicing sub a lot. DH bosses could be manageable

[plush isle]

Nexus-King will also require you to juggle the mark because he won't die before the intermission.

[sour skiff]

yup, definitely hoping fatebound is playable or playing sub

[main solar]

Fatebound needs jesus to be playable, and trying to do that with such little time until the patch seems sketchy.

[rich dragon]

dagger or sword? or no difference?

[coral ibex]

if you can equip a sword as assassination rogue

[main solar]

Dagger, assassination can't use anything else.

[coral ibex]

ill eat a shoe

[plush isle]

Imagine Deathmark wouldn't be such a pain in the ass and could be applied with mutilate or shiv, if you swap a target and fuck up than its your fault.

[rich dragon]

got it, thx

[normal mist]

Are you playing retail?

[rich dragon]

yes

[cursive hatch]

I'm surprised its not just applied by Shiv, or worse case all ambushes so you can fish for a blindside proc to apply it

[normal mist]

Okay okay... the only spec that really uses swords is outlaw

[plush isle]

Let's be honest, this is actually one of blizzard's biggest design mistakes when it comes to rogues, at the beginning of a season when you craft your items and you're pretty sure you're going to build a weapon, are you going to decide to throw away 2 weeks of progress by building a weapon that can only play 1 spec of the class ?

[winged quail]

that only happens if you choose to play outlaw which is always the wrong choice

[balmy condor]

wait until you hear about the other like 7 classes where that's also a thing

[midnight mist]

whioiiiispyyyr

[winged quail]

some classes need 2 sparks for their weapons sucks to suck

[midnight mist]

am i blocked currently or can i ask a question

[normal mist]

Feel free zac, i'll pass the message

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-grin-trust-me-gif-12168675

[midnight mist]

i dont trust you

never !

[balmy condor]

this is a concerning way to ask a question

[midnight mist]

its spatter that double dip right, with aura buffs

cause its in the aura list

[balmy condor]

yesn't

[midnight mist]

wtf does that mean

[balmy condor]

it doesn't double dip, it reverses the numbers back out

but it is on the list yes

[dapper cradle]

nice pin, I didn't even think about the mark + mut/ambush interaction

(i'm a dumb donkey)

[magic echo]

Hey team, have some of you recently having trouble with stealth in game, just walking around ingame, with no damage, no mobs around, and just get ported out from stealth ?

[coral ibex]

there was someone who was complaining about that a week ago

[balmy condor]

blade flurry for example is also on the outlaw list

[coral ibex]

and idr the resolve

but it was something they were doing

[winged quail]

i stg if it's the int dagger again lol

[midnight mist]

idk what this means now

[coral ibex]

oh right

its the int dagger

[midnight mist]

im confused

[balmy condor]

what are you confused about

[midnight mist]

also bf is bf press prolly

im confused about this

[coral ibex]

you shouldn't have crafted an intelligence dagger

[dapper cradle]

are you using an intellect dagger? check your weapons

[midnight mist]

doesnt mean anything to me

im talking about aura buff, what numbers would be reversed

[balmy condor]

caustic spatter is magic

[magic echo]

Is that a actual thing ?

[balmy condor]

it just works

[coral ibex]

yes, you shouldn't be using an int dagger

[midnight mist]

ok wahtever i didnt really care that much about the answer anyway

i dont need to understand

[balmy condor]

thanks for wasting my time I guess

[midnight mist]

yep my bad cuh

[fallow canopy]

When is fatebound's funeral btw?

[magic echo]

cheers bud!

[winged quail]

Fatebound will be burried in an unmarked grave, nobody will be in attendance

[main solar]

There was no next of kin to notify

[fallow canopy]

theres still some weeks left until the patch

[lunar pond]

TBF they are easy 100 parses

[winged quail]

it'll take more than a few weeks to fully rework fatebound

[lunar pond]

because no one plays it

[lofty mango]

With envenoms is it best to always max CP or just Smash them out at 6 when possible if more procs great

Surely you are wasting globals by going for full CP everytime

[marsh fjord]

You only go to max CP if you need to proc darkest night

otherwise it's 5+

[lofty mango]

Perfect thank you

[polar rampart]

my ptr keeps bricking on loading screen, gets to like 3/4 and stops, any idea to fix?

[hoary remnant]

Whisper when video? 😄

Need some content

[lofty mango]

Also with Shiv is it best to

Get to 5 CP

SHIV into envenom spam ?

[marsh fjord]

You dont use shiv for combo points.

Just press it whenever is needed

[sour skiff]

i'm in the same boat, different characters don't work

[polar rampart]

if you figure it out let me know

[lofty mango]

No I’m specifically talking about using it prior to envenom spam

No for the CP that just was saying basically have combo points already stacked to not waste GCD

[sour skiff]

are you talking in CDs? are you talking dry shiv? are you talking m+?

your question just sucks

[strange python]

You idiots still don’t get it? The true meaning of Fatebound is that we are bound to the Deathstalker hero talent…and that is our fate

[polar rampart]

bound to play the other hero talents

[lofty mango]

Dry shiv outside of CDs

[sour skiff]

you can shiv at 1 DSM if you can fit the DN in the shiv window

[marsh fjord]

i mean if you dry shiv you wanto cp+7 anyway because you gotta proc darkest night. to dry shiv

[normal mist]

Video out

[hearty reef]

scuse me mr whispyt in the pin you say TLDR but where the long version?

[balmy condor]

oh

whoops

[haughty flicker]

[spice spire]

Need the pookie video

[runic hinge]

Hi it’s me the pookie

[hearty reef]

i wanted to read the 80k words yapp

[dense cedar]

Stupid question: With the new tier set would it be better to reapply shiv early if the window to use it would end up landing during darkest night?

[balmy condor]

maybe with the 4% env buff

didn't matter for shit like 3 weeks ago when I checked

[dense cedar]

idk how important that deathmark shiv thing is

just seems like more brainwork if not a damage gain

[winged sun]

Dont think it’ll change anything honestly

[dense cedar]

just a fun little treat as it accelerates how many marks you go through

[winged sun]

Shiv usage was never too flexible atleast on gameplay

So

Things like these barely happen

[dense cedar]

I suppose the increased duration would mitigate this happening anyhow

presumably

[polar rampart]

i'd rather him explain it to me ad nauseum in discord

[worthy rose]

i used to do that to whispy

dunno if hes blocked me yet

[royal lantern]

try to do a emote on him

if it gets auto deleted, you are blocked and can judge

[runic hinge]

Maybe he’s just ignored so you can emote but he doesn’t see the ping

[worthy rose]

based im not blocked

"but based on what?"

[spice spire]

Whispyr rarely blocks mfs

[balmy condor]

My block list is entirely spammers

[drifting cloud]

and me

[balmy condor]

At least rn

[balmy condor]

Hate watching is still watching

[drifting cloud]

[haughty flicker]

[midnight mist]

im also blocked

but i deserve it

i was mean

[main bridge]

wow zac toxique

[midnight mist]

yes true

i am

sorry

[dense cedar]

if you're mean to Whispyr you probably have a Tiny Toxic Blade

smh smh

[royal lantern]

we dont shame

all blades are loved

except Outlaw weapons

i have still some standarts

[median root]

there's an irony in that

[river vapor]

Is sin APL updated currently?

[balmy condor]

updated for what exactly

[midnight mist]

For most optimal damage doing whispyr

[main bridge]

i DMed Whispyr and he sent me the secret 0day PTR sims that unlocked my full potential

[haughty flicker]

i DMed whispyr and he sent me a zip file with nsfw paladin pictures

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-gif-10393001

[normal mist]

Getting better treatment than me, I was left on read

[river vapor]

Mfs can never just answer the question 🤦🤦

[balmy condor]

[normal mist]

You didn't really explain

[balmy condor]

bro we don't know what you're asking

what does it mean to be updated

what are we updating for

mfers can never just ask a clear question so that I can answer instead of having to sit here and read your mind 🤦 🤦

[normal mist]

It can't be because of today's ptr patch notes right?

Those are... Ptr

[main bridge]

bro didn't even talent into Detect Thoughts

[cerulean walrus]

[main bridge]

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-of-judgement-judgement-bird-army-intensefies-gif-20318504

[midnight mist]

Mutilate got buffed by 11%

So I should be pressing 11 times more over 5 min

Is this reflected in the new apl whispyr

I assume you already finished working on it

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-mind-blowing-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-8014586781964501542

[balmy condor]

yes I'm actually already working on 12.0 apl

[runic hinge]

What do they do with hero talents in 12.0?

[haughty flicker]

do we play fatebound in 12.0

[runic hinge]

I need to know

[balmy condor]

where did bro go

I'm still waiting for whatever it means to be updated

[worthy rose]

can i be updated

[balmy condor]

is this what it feels like to work at a starbucks and some guy just walks up and orders a coffee

and then they get annoyed when you ask what kind of coffee

and what size

[thorn thorn]

"I have a frappichino for Johnathon"

"I asked for a iced coffee"

"Are you johnathon"

"no"

Everytime

[delicate imp]

SIN ROGUE BUFFS 😄

[cerulean walrus]

I want a REGULAR COFFEE

REGULAR!

[balmy condor]

I have a friend that got yelled at by a boomer for watering down his americano

[cerulean walrus]

[thorn thorn]

aintnoway

I bet thats the guy asking if the sin APL is updated currently

[runic hinge]

Imagine drinking boiled bean water

[thorn thorn]

I prefer cold bean water

[rich dragon]

does over bleed damage increase works on gushing wound?

[balmy condor]

No

Items are not buffed by class mechanics

[thorn thorn]

I can prove this false but its a stretch and a massive meme

[cerulean walrus]

But Whispyyyy! Mega Magnet during Lingering Darkness

[balmy condor]

They fixed that on ptr

[thorn thorn]

Felrush is a class mechanic, and on something like terros it gets you killed, and grieftorch is buffed by deaths

[cerulean walrus]

Wowie they did it

[spice surge]

I didnt check if they did for assa

[cerulean walrus]

[spice surge]

But for sub they fixed it working on itmes

But it no longer works on plague damage

So

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

Ptr is so undercooked that I actually cannot find enough fucks to give about testing all the old bugs and shit

[spice surge]

Ofc, i didnt go through the list

I saw they changed something about lingering in the spelldata

Thats why i checked

[cerulean walrus]

Did they fix the bug where I pop out of your monitor and tickle your balls when you press poisoned knife while in subterfuge?

Or did you not discover that one yet

[bleak ledge]

its wild that after and 8% aura buff and then across the board ability buffs, it still feels meh

fingers crossed for some wildly unexpected Amirdrassil launch

[oak eagle]

Spatter doesnt splash on Carnage when they meet in the middle, right?

[spice surge]

it does

[balmy condor]

Yeh it does

[oak eagle]

rip

aight cool

thought it wouldnt

[balmy condor]

And it’s better than internal bleeding

Notably so

Cause internal bleeding is so giga shit

[oak eagle]

fair enough

[errant heath]

cant parse more than blue on reclears

[sharp turtle]

W Buffs?

[spice surge]

ST buffs, neutral on aoe

So ye good

[meager prism]

AOE wasn't really an issue I didn't think so that sounds good to me

[spice surge]

Slightly less yapping about boss ST in keys

[hallow glade]

all he sent me was a paladin render executable

[unreal kayak]

pls juse delete rogue hero talents at this point

[thorn thorn]

How long until we can say we are like WW with the amount of neglect Fatebound has gotten

[night vessel]

Same here. No cleave on mug zee bc the jail adds die to fast already 😦

[still steppe]

full send it into boss

you'll still get a press decent parse

[night vessel]

I do, but we also dmg stop on 2nd jails bc we are slightly to slow to push it in phase before the jails

[still steppe]

oh if you're still doing 2nd jails then its kinda hard

you'll have to skip 2nd jails to full send into boss

[night vessel]

Yes. We will try to push it with 3 heals and prepot next reclear but we were slightly off every time

Kills my log

[gritty laurel]

the secret is to not care about parsing

[gloomy silo]

"Is Assassination log performance usually this inconsistent? I got a 97 in Mythic during patch 11.1.5, but now in 11.1.7 it's only a 78..."

[spice surge]

Well there was the belt, more gear and more raid renown buffs

So yes something that was a 97 a while ago is not gonna be a 97 now

[gloomy silo]

So in the end, does that mean I'm just not performing well enough?

[coral ibex]

are you talking about a historical log?

or did you just get a 78

if you got a 78 that's just how you performed

[gloomy silo]

ㅠㅠ

"I’m not really sure what the problem is... I’ve been going through top players’ logs and everything."

[balmy condor]

have you tried just padding harder

and ignoring more mechanics

[gloomy silo]

yes hh

Honestly, if I get Power Infusion, my parse turns out decent, but without it, my score just crashes

[harsh harbor]

Ok, gonna go sin and stay sin for the whole season

I always say im gonna do it, and never do it

[novel star]

have fun

[still steppe]

@balmy condor

is there a way to sim execute dps?

[balmy condor]

@still steppe

[gloomy silo]

One last question, haha. When I try to compare single-target DPS on the training dummy, as an Assassination Rogue, the dummy's health drops to zero quickly which makes the DPS appear higher. How should I practice in this case?

[lusty narwhal]

Are you using a normal dummy or a raid dummy

[gloomy silo]

"The raid dummy is too strong and I end up dying... so I’ve been practicing on the single-target dummy up north of Durnholde Keep."

[balmy condor]

is he

hitting the tanking dummy?

the dps dummy doesn't hit back lmao

[snow hamlet]

[main bridge]

owned by a dummy

[balmy condor]

you can still practice this btw you just compare to execute dps with buffs off

[gloomy silo]

"Yeah, I practice without buffs. The problem is, as the dummy’s health goes down, my Assassination damage-over-time and free Ambush keep proccing, so my DPS gets way too high and it’s hard to compare."

[main bridge]

what's with the quotes?

[gloomy silo]

I'm using ChatGPT to translate, haha

[main bridge]

Whispyr is saying it doesn't matter if the dummy's HP goes down because you can run a simulation using Patchwerk-Execute so that it matches - execute would also be low HP

[gloomy silo]

oh !!!

Oh, I see! Thanks, that screenshot above was exactly that!!

[slim copper]

can someone give me the talent loadout code for M OAB please

[balmy condor]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZDWmBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwCA

[main bridge]

could pick one of these https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/onearmed-bandit

[balmy condor]

I mean it's also just

the same talents as everything else

[slim copper]

ya ok didnt think about that nothing changes from H OAB

im a little derpy thanks though!

[west crown]

Are we maybe going to have higher prio to imp garrote all targets that will live for bleed now? Is 13% enough for that?

[balmy condor]

were you not applying imp garrote to things already?

[buoyant herald]

There’s a temptation to apply it once and then not again but that obviously depends on how long stuff lives

[winged sun]

Yea if ur not doing r1 keys

Bleed everything ofc

[runic hinge]

I be spamming garrote every global of IC

[west crown]

Meh, I'd rather do suboptimal damage and play cleave in 15s than ever play bleed. So boring

[prime isle]

guys, been out of wow for a while now, do you think that assassin is the strongest for m+?

[rich dragon]

im trying the class on pvp currently. It seems that vanish is not a "get of out jail free card" as I thought. What are the situations where it does not work? is it like when you have some dots up on you?

[west crown]

They've buffed us to the point where we are just below meta past couple seasons

[coral ibex]

#pvp

we dont talk about pvp in this channel

[prime isle]

so, outlaw can be better for m+?

[coral ibex]

play what you want

[rich dragon]

ic, i will ask there

[coral ibex]

you'll get the same number of invites

[prime isle]

ooh ok, thanks

[runic hinge]

Rogue is just not super meta for m+ but it is good in the physical comp

[winged sun]

With dh assa, with brew outlaw

Both equally as good

Dh comp is more consistent and better but its only slightly better

Way better in some dungeons

Like rookery where dh and dk shine

[hallow glade]

There’s also 10x more dh than brew

[thorn thorn]

Outlaw now???

[winged sun]

yea it was good ever since the BF not hitting dead mobs fix

[worthy prism]

Guys, what does CT stand for?

[winged sun]

crimson tempest

[inner swift]

so now we on par with frost dk or whatXD

[tight ginkgo]

bro so i havent played sin much and dude, getting timing darkest nights on technicians on gally is stupid fun

[solar wyvern]

ASCENNNND

[quaint spindle]

I feel like a CT nerf was odd

[runic hinge]

How much ct damage

[rotund oak]

idk about the DK's gear but if i were him ild have srs thoughts about quitting

[runic hinge]

Crazy that’s gonna go down to 3%

[drifting cloud]

[solar wyvern]

yeah that math checks out

14%-9% =3%

!

[drifting cloud]

my calculator isnt working but it seems right

[solar wyvern]

Who needs a calculator

[drifting cloud]

me

[solar wyvern]

just do math off vibes ong

[runic hinge]

That’s what I do

[drifting cloud]

is it too much to ask if that pic is a boost or just pugging/playing with friends

[hearty seal]

hmmmm
ST buffs that are gonna be noticeable in M+
sounds good to me

[runic hinge]

Also I thought ct was reduced by 11% so that’s my b

[drifting cloud]

all good!!

[solar wyvern]

That was just a pickup group we rammed my 20 cinder into a few times haha

[rotund oak]

rly?

[drifting cloud]

you hot sexy thing with your 20 resil

most popular guy on the block

[solar wyvern]

unintentional subtle flex mb

lmao

Zac got resi 21 its fine

hes the real flex

[drifting cloud]

oh sorry I wasnt trying to mean that

I know youre like top10 rogue on io since season start

[solar wyvern]

bro you wouldnt beleive that dm's from people i've never plyaed with

being like

[runic hinge]

Free feet pics?

[solar wyvern]

"hey friend if u ever have ml 20..."

[drifting cloud]

🥺 for me?

[fresh kelp]

resilient gamers

[solar wyvern]

just a lil bit of ur time (4 hrs) for this 20 cinder pls 🥵 🙏🏻 🤔

[fresh kelp]

ick

[drifting cloud]

is score still going up at a decent rate or what, how many 20s will be needed for title end of the season are people thinking

[solar wyvern]

probably 3 if i had to guess

dfc ml and top/mech/cinder

but 2 may be cutoff in NA

[drifting cloud]

you have to sell your prog services then

[solar wyvern]

nah i just like to play the game tbh

[drifting cloud]

if you care about gold ig which you might not

[runic hinge]

Ryler will you carry me to 3 20’s

[drifting cloud]

best I can do is a single 14 tony

[solar wyvern]

Like once in a while ill get invited to a sale and ill just take the fre gold but im not looking for it haha

[drifting cloud]

I dont think Ive done a key higher than 10 since I was like 665 ilvl

my 3k "journey" took like 3h with a guild pug in April thats the whole season

[runic hinge]

I already have a single 14 or did you stalk me and know that

[drifting cloud]

no thats my highest key done

I dont even 12 resil

[runic hinge]

Oh same lol

[drifting cloud]

my priory is still on 10

[runic hinge]

I do have 12 resil

I thought about going for more but then I was like who am I a pusher?

[drifting cloud]

and next season seems like its going to be even easier at start, hurray for me!

[runic hinge]

Yay. Season over early!

[drifting cloud]

hey Im just realistic, not good enough to go for title, even if pugging it wasnt going to make me want to commit sudoku

[runic hinge]

Yeah I can’t pug

[drifting cloud]

and there isnt even 5 people that push keys in my guild I think

[runic hinge]

I did s3 of df and I wanted to die by the end

I have one guildie who did resil 15’s maybe. That’s the highest

I did a 23 EB and the resto shaman healing talented out of kick!

I didn’t pug again

[drifting cloud]

were all just dirty raid loggers

I think some got title in s4 df or something, maybe s3 as a 4-5 guild stack but thats about it

I just play other games and rage there instead

[runic hinge]

Let’s play some cs

[drifting cloud]

I dont own cs

[runic hinge]

It’s free

[drifting cloud]

dont you need an account or you just play with hackers 100% of the time instead of 90%

I just play way too much lost ark and mtg

[subtle tundra]

you play with hackers regardless

[runic hinge]

He’s right

[fallow canopy]

its hackers everywhere

[coral ibex]

play cs 🙂

its good

[runic hinge]

Can I have your knife

[fallow canopy]

sheesh

[coral ibex]

you wish haha

[runic hinge]

I do wish

[coral ibex]

me too

sold it, needed cash for a car repair

[runic hinge]

Kinda ugly

[coral ibex]

i play with a classic knife rn

just something cheap

ill buy back the butterfly later

maybe for my birthday in a few months

[runic hinge]

Someone asked me how much I paid for it and I said “idk it was free” and they said yeah it looks like it

[coral ibex]

lmao

it gets the job done

[runic hinge]

My cousin won it gambling and gave it to me for free

[coral ibex]

nice

i opened a karambit 2 years ago and traded it for the butterfly

[runic hinge]

Yeah. He just pulled a ruby Doppler skele knife

He won’t trade me for it

[coral ibex]

skeles are cool but i dont like most of the finishes

i like vanillas a lot

[runic hinge]

Idk what I would want if I was actually spending money

[coral ibex]

i sold my vanilla butterfly in 2015 for $200

[runic hinge]

I sold some stat track shadow daggers for 50

Had the aziimov awp sold that for 35

[coral ibex]

dude i had a super high float asiimov

[runic hinge]

How was I to know

[coral ibex]

like top 100

blackiimov

[runic hinge]

Damn

[coral ibex]

and then cs2 made it fucking GREY

[runic hinge]

Rip

[coral ibex]

my awp now

pulled it during the austin major

[runic hinge]

Wow

I’m using a chromatic aberration I pulled a while back

[coral ibex]

underrated skin tbh

there's a lot of clean awp skins

some guy i was playing with yesterday had a 0.0004 awp corticera

[runic hinge]

Wow

That’s sick

[coral ibex]

you never see those

[runic hinge]

I’ve been playing to much wow to play cs lately

Too many mounts to farm

[coral ibex]

i'm not much of a mount andy so ive been grinding cs

logging in for reclears wondering if they'd run without a rogue so i can queue more premier

[runic hinge]

I wish I wasn’t trash

[coral ibex]

cs is less of a game and more of a discipline

[runic hinge]

I’d have to play more to get decent. But I don’t and then cry more about being trash

[coral ibex]

that shit is hard lol

yea

[runic hinge]

When I played 4 maps a day minimum I was okay. Now I play 3 maps a month and wonder why my aim is so ass

[coral ibex]

like i need to warm up before i play actual matches or ill just be shooting blanks the whole time

back in the day these eyes were sharper

now i gotta wake up the old bones to hit a juan deag

[runic hinge]

No warm up. Load in with the boys at 5k premier. Get smoked. Wait two weeks to queue again cause it sucked so bad

Life’s hard when you’re old

[coral ibex]

[raw marlin]

Nerds.

[coral ibex]

ive got an alt i made for that new account case opening luck

of course its the one that opened the karambit

[raw marlin]

I haven’t played properly since CS2 became a thing. Used to play 10 hours a day when GE and faceit was actually fun.

[runic hinge]

Damn. Maybe I need that

[coral ibex]

15 year old account

never opened a knife

that alt has opened 2 since 2023

[runic hinge]

Yeah my account is old enough to vote

Maybe I need an alt

Cause I’ve never pulled a knife either

[fallow canopy]

Its on the next case trust

[coral ibex]

i remember downloading css in high school like it was yesterday man

[runic hinge]

CSS was my shit lol

[coral ibex]

did you ever play any jail?

[runic hinge]

Hmm. I don’t think so

[alpine grotto]

what is best build for mythic plus 10 for overall damage at this moment?

[coral ibex]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[alpine grotto]

ty!

[runic hinge]

You’re welcome

[coral ibex]

it was an RP-focused game mode on a huge map based on a prison

where the t's are inmates and the ct's are the wardens

only the ct's have guns, t's have knives

it was so fun causing chaos

[runic hinge]

Lmao that’s sick

CSS had so many cool community servers

One of my buddy played on an rp one where he was a wizard and would level up

I mostly just played office no awp maps

I haven’t pulled a knife but I did pull this from my weekly last month

[coral ibex]

office memories...

the ol huge public servers

16k no awps no autos

[runic hinge]

Yess

One sec

Tryna find the screenshot

[brave comet]

god i want this to go away

[coral ibex]

fYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oh midnight i thought it was a blue laminate from the thumbnail on mobile

still sick tho

what condition?

[runic hinge]

FT so it’s like 20$

FN woulda been like 120

[coral ibex]

hey ill take it

[runic hinge]

Yeah I wasn’t mad at it

[coral ibex]

oh dude i should remember to do my weekly box on my alt

free money fr

[runic hinge]

Ez money

[amber brook]

ive done it

[snow hamlet]

gz

[prisma cypress]

anyone else using that WA package have trouble telling if the purple combo point is filled or not

[balmy condor]

I can change the colors

I've been missing it every now and then

[jade abyss]

Is this a US thing?

[brave comet]

yes

[drifting cloud]

BLESS

I got used to it but at the start I was struggling

[runic hinge]

same

[drifting cloud]

(its because im old and colorblind)

[runic hinge]

same, maybe, idk if i am but sometimes I have questions

[earnest remnant]

its supercharger right?

why not just have it be on the 1st and 2nd cp then you are never confused if its filled or not

[prisma cypress]

it’s the deathstalker thing

i’m just glad it’s not just me

[runic hinge]

the very last one turns purple during Darkest night and i can't tell sometimes

[earnest remnant]

ah

so he tracks DN in two places

[zenith elm]

Good morning fellow rogues, i'm also colorblind

idk about old tho

[prisma cypress]

i’m definitely old

playing an old man spec

[balmy condor]

yes

[earnest remnant]

Tritanopia having ass

[prisma cypress]

i think the combo point bar is a better place to track the presence of the buff, but not the duration, so i can understand it being in two places even if it might seem redundant

[balmy condor]

that is why I did it that way, ye

[zenith elm]

whispyr always being the GOAT

[balmy condor]

is the energy gradient too extra

[zenith elm]

Makes me feel like its fuel

which is actually accurate, we are slow cars

so energy is our guel

fuel*

[dense cedar]

gruel

[subtle tundra]

MIIAUUUUUUU

apparently we're gonna have rabbit at work today... the boss bought a live bunny and theyre gonna kill it

he is so cute

[balmy condor]

colorblind check

[amber brook]

Kill it?

[drifting cloud]

is the right one how it looks currently? I forgor

[earnest remnant]

its the border when not a full cp

at*

and left is filled

[prisma cypress]

well they’re not going to eat the poor thing alive, are they

[subtle tundra]

yeah how else do you want to cook it

[balmy condor]

this is the current

[earnest remnant]

he might it alot brighter

[amber brook]

cook it?

[earnest remnant]

made*

[subtle tundra]

you usually kill an alive animal before you cook it

[haughty flicker]

maybe its like lobsters and you have to boil them alive

[amber brook]

balut says otherwise

raw and alive

[runic hinge]

better i think

[nova kelp]

oh hey, look at that, a blue post
kinda leaving me a bit fucking cringeface but I guess number up = yay?

if you were to poll the sin community, what % you reckon is more Envenom big ups vs Bleeds big ups?

like maybe I'm out of touch, maybe people just fucking love bigvenom?

[prisma cypress]

i say if we can’t have big kb, bigvenom is satisfactory

[amber brook]

30mil dry shiv ❤️

[nova kelp]

maybe I'm getting too old
I just wana do big bleeds

and be able to target switch better

[prisma cypress]

sorry, tunneling the boss is assassinations class identity

[nova kelp]

seems so

ah well, I guess if theres no choice at least the raid knows what to expect from me lol

"I HIT BIG BAR"
"Reckon you could do this mechanic?"
"I HIT BIG BAR!"

[gloomy silo]

When running raid single-target sims, do you use Corrosive Spray or Internal Bleeding?

[nova kelp]

if you're trying to boost the sim, IB, if you're trying to sim what you'll be using 99.999999% of the time, CS

[gloomy silo]

For the current Mythic raid, since Internal Bleeding only applies outside Rokhan Stock, I've been running sims using Corrosive Spray all along—is that correct?

[runic hinge]

yes

[prisma cypress]

i would say that because you’re using CS on almost every fight, it makes sense to sim with it, yes

[nova kelp]

I mean, if people are actually being honest, most of them are running spatter on sprocket too

coz they probably forget

[prisma cypress]

how much is IB even worth?

[haughty flicker]

meanwhile i played fatebound on sprocket

and never recleared

based

[nova kelp]

ew

[runic hinge]

1.8% or soemthing

[nova kelp]

I hate that for you

[haughty flicker]

very little

[nova kelp]

I tried FB on a few pulls, it made me incredibly flacid

[haughty flicker]

idk it felt the same as deathstalker

[prisma cypress]

1.8% isn’t bad, if that’s the number

[haughty flicker]

vanish at a different time

w/e

obviously not getting lucky coin on opener felt bad but just dont track that

ez

[novel star]

your pfp makes me feel the opposite big dog

[red schooner]

Yeah, I'd have liked changes to the hero talents but more numbers are also okay i guess?

[haughty flicker]

hero talents are not getting changed

[runic hinge]

horny on main! ayo?

[haughty flicker]

thats just the way its gonna be this patch

maybe next time

[novel star]

sometimes you gotta let the goon out

[nova kelp]

I mean number up is good number
I guess
fucking... whatever

[runic hinge]

true and real

[red schooner]

Yeah, I had hopes for it, I shouldn't have had hopes

[red schooner]

Quakes eternal motto

[hearty coral]

Hi i dont play since s1 when assa was the pick for m+. We still good? I want Best aoe with regular st. Thanks

[runic hinge]

yeah we up

[novel star]

sin good aoe good prio bad st

[runic hinge]

they buffed st today

[novel star]

but the aoe and shit are so significantly better you just always play it anyway even with the bad st

[novel star]

ptr notes no?

but ye

investment

[hearty coral]

What does outlaw and sub better than us?

[gloomy silo]

thx~~

[runic hinge]

np

[runic hinge]

yeah on ptr we got buffed

idk if st will be ass still, might be up to mid

[novel star]

sub nothing but st burst i guess, outlaw perma having damage is really nice cause you never have to think about cds

[nova kelp]

somehow I think that this buff might have bummed me out more than a nerf lol

Ima go play something else shit and imagine silver linings

time for some destiny

[novel star]

but like sin also mostly has perma damage

unless ur doing giga keys with cleave

so

[red schooner]

I just wanted fatebound to be fixed at least

[hearty coral]

So staying sin its ok to reach 3k?

[haughty flicker]

no shot dude got depressed and decided destiny was the game to cheer him up

[novel star]

very easily yes

[red schooner]

Any spec can hit 3k

[haughty flicker]

out of everything

[hearty coral]

Ye i know its Just im. Not that good

[novel star]

ye ur fine

if ur set on rogue just play bleed sin

it’s easy and does giga damage

[hearty coral]

How is outlaw st and aoe compared to. Us? I would like to try both

[red schooner]

I wasn't meaning it as a diss, just that any spec can hit that level and in that range just play what you have fun with!

[nova kelp]

st fine, aoe shit over 8 targets, difficulty sky fucking high for average output

[runic hinge]

if i can reach 3k as assa anyone can

[hearty coral]

I love watching poison bomb procs

[novel star]

outlaw aoe worse st better afaik

[fathom flax]

Anyone got some early simc for 11.2?

[red schooner]

I still haven't hit 3k, been at 2987 for 2 months now

[fathom flax]

6mil gang rise up

[red schooner]

I should probably smash out a 13 for the final bit of score but also, I lack the willpower

[hearty coral]

Man you guys are amazing im. So happy i decided to play rogue. You are so kind and help full here, others classes discord are full of trolls

[novel star]

rogue disc pretty high tier yeh

[runic hinge]

@haughty flicker is a troll beware

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[nova kelp]

@haughty flicker likes feet

[hearty coral]

[runic hinge]

hell yeah brother

[novel star]

if you come in being a dumbass youll get owned but generally everyone is nice

[haughty flicker]

[runic hinge]

lmao gottem

[novel star]

don’t we all bro

[runic hinge]

[hearty coral]

Ye we rocks

[runic hinge]

Play bleed build, get 3k ez pz

[nova kelp]

It's true

source: all of us

[runic hinge]

take iron wire and cover for your bad pugs kicks

[red schooner]

Wait but I play a troll rogue wtf

[balmy condor]

it's true

I will stick my tongue down your throat if you show up being a dumbass

[haughty flicker]

promise?

[red schooner]

Don't you threaten me with a good time

[runic hinge]

ayo it's me a dumbass

[nova kelp]

just your tongue?

sadface

[dense cedar]

[buoyant herald]

https://tenor.com/view/jan-nah-kermit-the-frog-relieved-gif-12399724

[nova kelp]

put your thumbs and forefingers together and repeat the mantra
"number up is good number. number up is good number. number up is good number. number up is good number. number up is good number. number up is good number. number up is good number."

[novel star]

Fuuccjkkkkk whispyr im so drunk is fatebound good yet 🥺

sorry

i’m sorry

[ivory swallow]

Hey rogue fellows 🙂
I am new to assa, played sub before.
Should I use my envenom, as soon as I have 5+ combo points, or fill up combo points?

[whole mason]

So they know KB bug but cannot fix it?

[runic hinge]

5+ normally 7 with darkest night

[red schooner]

The rule of thumb is, 5+ normally, but if you have darkest night up, do it on max points

[ivory swallow]

Okay many thanks 🫡♥️

[novel star]

what kb bug

[whole mason]

s3 fb tier

[novel star]

oh

idk its ptr surely it gets fixed right

[livid folio]

RIGHT?!

[whole mason]

not always

[novel star]

or we just don’t care because it’s fatebound and no one is playing that shit anyway

bug or no bug

[thick zinc]

How is assa damage looking now with the new buffs on PTR?

[balmy condor]

about 3% stronger than yesterday

[livid folio]

Afaik buff to envenom, nerf to CT

[thick zinc]

@balmy condor how does that compare to other classes? Are we in a good spot for raiding?

[balmy condor]

probably

there's another months worth of tuning

lowkey who cares

[livid folio]

Don‘t count on your Guild bringing 5 Rouges, but 1 is always Fine

[whole mason]

FB surely would be something interesting to play if they fix KB and FI (Fate Intertwined)

[thick zinc]

Ye, fair enough

[uneven marsh]

Guys, how curse is the management of Mark on the next tier ?
I hard it's a nightmare on at least 3/8 bosses
Is it a "switch to sub for these bosses" angle ?

[balmy condor]

and cold blood, and delivered doom

[red schooner]

Or a swap to VV and have vanish for mark management angle maybe?

[livid folio]

Just save vanish to apply new mark @uneven marsh

[novel star]

and the out of combat buff drop time

or did they get that one

[livid folio]

Or Play NELF

[whole mason]

Well, CB part is annoying but not terrible if boss timeline not that strict. DD is just numbers, that talent or buff aura, the same or at least similar

[novel star]

you can always plan around mark swaps

it’s not vanish or nothing

just finish at 5 with dn up

[balmy condor]

"cb part is annoying but not terrible"

literally makes the 4pc pointless

GOOD ONE

[earnest remnant]

and if we kiss under the bleachers

[livid folio]

Does NELF stealth count to apply new mark? Always wondered, havent tested it yet

[balmy condor]

no

[novel star]

no

[livid folio]

Why the f not? 😄

[balmy condor]

cause it's not stealth

[whole mason]

why pointless? it becomes 50/98 for KB/DM, significant enough

[balmy condor]

it doesn't give you stealth anything

[novel star]

cause it’s not stealth(rogue) it’s just a mechanic that gives you stealth(invisibility)

[golden loom]

And then you wait for vanish cd anyways

[balmy condor]

yeah and then you desync with vanish, huge

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

if it's 45/90 then like okay

but you start to get like 50, 52 on kb

and 100, 105 on dm

and then what

you just fucking hold

[whole mason]

hold for vanish?

[balmy condor]

yes

[golden loom]

Yeah

[whole mason]

for the coin?

[livid folio]

They should just let the CB cd start when you press it. That would fix everything no?

[whole mason]

no, it must also make CB a duration

so you either no duration but start CD after usage or a finite duration and start the CD after press it

[balmy condor]

you just give it a 10s duration and make the cd start on press

except they haven't done that

for reasons idk

[livid folio]

Either way, thats like 2 Lines of code

[balmy condor]

good meme

you have no idea how their tooling works

but good meme regardless

[whole mason]

i think it is due to very old ability like preparation so you reset all your cd

[earnest remnant]

whats the bigger chance whispyr

FB getting fixed or sub getting combo back

[whole mason]

and for that case you got two CB

[balmy condor]

at this point what's the chance we see anything other than x%

[earnest remnant]

slim

like our sleep schedule

ong

[whole mason]

they would simply +% rather than fix KB

since KB would then out performance env to the top of our damage, maybe

[hearty seal]

it's like
two and a half weeks before the patch is ready for shipping
so, zero

[red schooner]

The fatebound buff bug has been fixed though, right?

[balmy condor]

no

[red schooner]

[whole mason]

not yet

[earnest remnant]

priest takes prio

so nopers

[hearty seal]

what bug

[red schooner]

Kingsbane lasts longer with FB, the buff doesn't get updated

[whole mason]

you dont want aura % numbers in this early. Since in the past, when % came, everything else rests

[red schooner]

So your stacks just get reset

[hearty seal]

oh that's stupid

[hearty seal]

early?...

[whole mason]

not reset, you get a new KB buff that last 14s

[red schooner]

And you lose your stacks, or at least that was my understanding of it

[whole mason]

for test, you'd like all imminent impactful bugs fixed and playstyle confirmed before numbers

[whole mason]

yes, you lost your good stack with the 14s buff and start a new one while your KB has 4s left.

since now it is tricky a bit, you'd like your shiv to cover the 6-14s not the 10-18s

[rotund oak]

Seen the new FB vid,2 things needs to be highlighted :

1. Gato needs petting uwu
2. u are one s@xy mfk@r

[runic hinge]

Thank god you censored yourself

[rotund oak]

i tried..

😂

[austere radish]

does somebody have a talent build for m+ which has the cleave focus & Fatebound?

i know its wild

[balmy condor]

m+ and fatebound

xdd

[covert jewel]

[austere radish]

i will not play it, but i like the idea of it

(im getting banned)

[rotund oak]

why get banned

u didnt do anything outside some weird cook

its ok u can test it but doubt its even a choice,numbers too low

(should check whispyr's new fatebound vid,you will understand why its bad)

[red schooner]

Wait, the pookies got a new video?

Hell yeah

[rotund oak]

we waiting for another one in 3 days

(buy a smol present,our boy has his bday)

[austere radish]

ill do.. i just like to play different things sometimes
not for pushing

for my 14+ im playing the cleave build and focus on priority dmg

[rotund oak]

think that range is kinda whatever,u can play anything and still make ur keys if u are playing reasonably ok

assuming ur gear is good enough taht is,coz u need some gear for 14s

[austere radish]

672 iLvL

need more valor

[zenith elm]

Does anyone still do gallywix mythic? xD

cause the guild i applied dont want to try to kill it anymore tbh ^^'

[novel star]

bleed does hella prio too

tbh

the difference in prio damage isn’t as much as you think

it’s mostly pure st where cleave pops off

[austere radish]

nothing against it, just liking the cleave build
and i like the boss fights more

[novel star]

it’s more fun for sure

no kingsbane gets really boring

[austere radish]

ye, and i dont like how the boss fights play

[rotund oak]

thats on the lowside a bit for 14s but if u can handle ye doesnt matter all that much

[royal lantern]

yeha?

a raiding guild kinda must raid, or they can fall appart quickly

[red schooner]

We're re-killing him once then going on break

Mugzee 'reclear' took 65 pulls

[rotund oak]

imagine raiding

[red schooner]

I'm so tired boss

[royal lantern]

you play fucking PvP you animal

[red schooner]

Part of me is tempted to step down and just go back to being a casual Andy

[royal lantern]

bruh

BRUH

65???????

[red schooner]

LISTEN, I WASN'T IN CHARGE OF THAT SHITSHOW

I WAS JUST DRAGGED ALONG FOR THE RIDE

Also it might not have been 65 I dunno, lemme check

[royal lantern]

first 2-3 reclears being a bit rough is normal sure

but 65 pulls for a boss AFTER you killed it once for the next kill? how did not half the raidteam leave lol

[zenith elm]

We had 50 pulls on mughzee

and its the third reclean

and we did not have enough time to kill gally, which means i still dont have CE xD

[red schooner]

IT WAS MORE

It was 89

[zenith elm]

Shit

Anyone wants to take me and my ID to kill gally quick? lol xD

so ppl wont have to prog on mugzhee (big stonks)

[grim jay]

So you didnt reclear but reprog

[red schooner]

But yeah we got CE, like 30℅ of the raid team stepped down, so we had a bunch of trials in who had never done the fight

And one night our RL was deadset on 3 minute push despite our overall damage being wank

[grim jay]

Suddenly working doesnt sound as bad anymore

[royal lantern]

welp, your raidteam kinda died lol

[grim jay]

[red schooner]

And us having to lust early to meet the push part which fucked us for p2

[rotund oak]

yes im the kind of guy that finds fun killing noobs in rated pvp

[red schooner]

Yeah we were like half trials and benched people

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Same, there was a time I really enjoyed pvp

In wod and legion

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Mop pvp was actually goated

Now that I think of it

[red schooner]

But yeah I for once wasn't the problem child of the raid, I was behaving myself, we just didn't have the damage for the push we were trying to do

[rotund oak]

mop was mage mage mage,war war war,lock lock lock

rogues kinda okayish but not outside rmp

[grim jay]

Mainly the monk soloing 3 people part was fun

As he could infinitely selfheal while kiting with health orbs

[rotund oak]

monks were dogs into any caster cleave rly

thats why rogues actually had it rough in mop,coz monks

[red schooner]

Most of the DPS were green logging apparently

[grim jay]

I miss doing clean solo oneshots by being good at your spec

Great days

[rotund oak]

im gonna play pandaland for sure

idk,retail is kinda whatever

might play it but dont rly njoy it anymore

[red schooner]

I didn't even wanna mythic raid , I was a social and they needed numbers and went, 'hey, you eat less glue than most of the other socials, wanna raid' and me being a fucking moron went 'ye sure'

[zenith elm]

EAT MORE GLUE

[normal mist]

I'm honestly thinking about quitting wow by the end of this expansion

[rotund oak]

i just decline every guild invitation coz i know where its gonna end on my rogue

[rotund oak]

its an honest thought for me as well

but dont think ill do jsut yet

[red schooner]

Not raided in 3 expansions, not mythic raided in longer, dragged into fucking kyveza and court prog

Like what in the actual fuck

[normal mist]

I think I'm going to just embrace single players

[red schooner]

But you're still gonna hang around here, right?

[rotund oak]

yeah i had this on sod,ended up wiping 150 times in sylvie,clearing eveyrthing else,same for dragonland,was wiping into smolderon

[subtle tundra]

miau

[rotund oak]

the misery is real

[normal mist]

Obviously, I gotta keep in touch with my boys

[zenith elm]

I still want to talk with you ppls

[red schooner]

All is well

[zenith elm]

please dont quit

i dont wanna be a silly goose alone

[normal mist]

How else will I bring baby news

[grim jay]

Playing games that value your time and have no scheduled days is actually a kind of freedom and can be a gamechanger

[rotund oak]

idk rly,i think more of poe and diablo these days and raid ofc coz im a big boi(top 50 world clan curently)

[zenith elm]

i wished to be a big boi, didnt seems like it would go well

so idk

[normal mist]

Single player D3 was also lots of fun for me

Never played poe

[red schooner]

But yeah 89 pull mugzee 'reclear' has fucking broken me

[grim jay]

I actually always liked online games where you had a valid option of playing solo

Thats also why I stuck with bdo on the side for years

[zenith elm]

same with 50 and no gally kills

[normal mist]

That's what I meant by single players too.
MH can be a singer player even tho it's online

[rotund oak]

im clearing 150 GRs SSF every single season

d3 is a game ive played and mastered

[normal mist]

Highest I got was like... 125-130

During a season where the last season reward was cosmic wings

After a quick Google search "cosmic wings" isn't the right name

[lusty kraken]

we are going to get nerfed in the first week of raid, aren't we

[native turret]

[native turret]

What da fuk

[red schooner]

It hurts

[rotund oak]

above 130 is about having perfect rolled stats/gear and knowing mechanics.above 140 u need to know how to map and how ur dmg comes out,145+ is jsut playing silly OP builds,like bonespear necro,frenzy barb,high paragon DH on guardian's aversion,stuff like that

[normal mist]

At the time I was playing sorcerer, with a weird build to go super Saiyan mode and just kameahmeah

[rotund oak]

Bazooka meteor

[normal mist]

Not meteor

Literally a beam

[rotund oak]

archon

[normal mist]

YEE

THAT'S IT

[rotund oak]

yup thats a nice build

love it

[normal mist]

Teleport beam teleport beam slow on the ground out of resources use missiles

Repeat

[rotund oak]

an absolute menace,feels very nice

[normal mist]

Then you get one tapped and you gotta missiles for CDR

For a while

[rotund oak]

ive played archon for a while,then went hydra and then went into nuclear bazooka build

ppl inv me to onetap rift guardians

so much fun!

😂

[normal mist]

I think the most nostalgic thing I have from those times is:

• hey guys this is rykker

[rotund oak]

bro's a legend

[normal mist]

He was my go to for Diablo content

[rotund oak]

ive followed raxx and wudjo more but rhykker is always amazing

never once what he sais was wrong

[normal mist]

Wudjo was someone I eventually started reading guides from toi

But in all honesty, single player games are just better for your heart

Being able to just pause it is everything

[rotund oak]

10 years ago ild find thrill in clutch plays in rated 3s,now im like okay im so done

washed

[round shore]

ahh yea assa in PTR is finaly back to game boi

[zenith elm]

I mean, yeah its good

Do we need any trinket the last bosses ?

From ptr

[spice surge]

Trinket tuning still whack, but probably no as assa

Most likely the one from 4th boss

[magic fossil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[zenith elm]

and as sub??

[zenith elm]

loving it as always friend

[spice surge]

Probably from 6th boss

But again, trinket tuning is whack

[zenith elm]

So 5th boss bc the optional one is annoying thanks

[frosty nebula]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[analog socket]

[broken chasm]

What build is being played this patch? Is bleed still the best?

[spice surge]

Nothing really changing

[main bridge]

check out two posts up

[granite island]

So a question regarding tea and dry shiv, do you want to play around it so that you will always have tea for it, or is it just an rng anglee

[main bridge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[spice surge]

Besides the first one you wont have tea for it no

[granite island]

aight

[spice surge]

But it doesnt matter anyway

Just get 7 cp and pop the big DN

[latent bluff]

do we expect cyrce's circlet to be viable on s3 as well?

[golden loom]

no

getting gapped in ilvl hard and also didnt it catch a even further nerf?

[normal mist]

Circlet already replaced by myth ilvl rings

It will become obsolete in s3

[spice surge]

The belt is getting replaced by myth belts as well

[normal mist]

Even if they are 20 ilvl lower? Now that's something I didn't think about

[spice surge]

What

[normal mist]

What

[spice surge]

I meant s3 myth

[normal mist]

Oh