#assassination

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balmy condor
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aighyt

cunning basin
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Careful, if you keep going down some homie in glasses is gonna start calling you Mister Anderson and philosophizing at you

cursive root
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lets all have some tea

balmy condor
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logging off

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I can't fucking do it anymore

normal mist
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Good night homie

red schooner
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Bye Whispyr

fallow canopy
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Good night sorry for the ragebait

zealous moth
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have a good night

cunning basin
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I miss when whispyr was here

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It was a better time

cursive root
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he's drinking tea man leave him alone

fallow canopy
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Feels like so long ago

zealous moth
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i miss when tea wasnt aotumatic

cunning basin
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15 seconds ago

zealous moth
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my parses dropped so hard since then

thorn thorn
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Bro got ragebaited so hard he set himself to do not disturb

cunning basin
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💀

haughty flicker
red schooner
haughty flicker
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good times

cursive root
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!autotea

normal mist
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To be fair, it is really stupid that a really really small optimization gets this much attention

red schooner
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Whispyr adding 'tea' to the filter as we speak

normal mist
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auto tea is fine

red schooner
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Moroes gonna have a field day

thorn thorn
fallow canopy
thorn thorn
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Auto tea just stands out since its easily one of the least significant optimizations

iron carbon
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It was just discussed earlier

balmy condor
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stop calling it an optimization

cursive root
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HE'S BACK

balmy condor
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an optimization is a dps increase

haughty flicker
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W BAIT ROYAL

balmy condor
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you're literally just normalizing delusions

cunning basin
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LMAO

thorn thorn
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Anything worth less than 1% is not and will never be worth thinking about

balmy condor
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actual fucking mental illness

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these people see fucking ghosts

normal mist
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Yo you can't be mad at a heroic raider

iron carbon
balmy condor
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and they refuse to believe otherwise

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you shut the fuck up

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with your tea shit

gritty laurel
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i just love that remembering to dry shiv is more significant than 99% of the questions that get asked in here (from myself included)

balmy condor
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I'm tired of you

cunning basin
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Hell yeah crash out

cursive root
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i wish blizzard would auto shiv for us

iron carbon
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Okay, sorry Whispyr

balmy condor
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it's impossible not to crash out it's been OVER A YEAR of tea this tea this tea last 6 kb tea auto tea not auto tea macro

royal lantern
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sorry, cant hear you over me rng proccing poison bomb 4x on pull and having a 100 cus of that

my skill is just higher then yours

waxen oyster
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just use OBR

balmy condor
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it mattered in amirdrassil when KB was TWICE the damage

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TWICE

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TWO TIMES THE DAMAGE

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now it doesn't matter for shit

iron carbon
haughty flicker
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i agree buff kb

balmy condor
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I ain't reading that

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fuck off

iron carbon
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I'm not the one telling it

cursive root
balmy condor
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I don't give a shit what he's saying

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literally could not care

fallow canopy
cursive root
royal lantern
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what a shocker

balmy condor
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anything other than "tea proccing doesn't matter" is just delusional

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last 6 kb or whatever the fuck

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doesn't matter

humble verge
iron carbon
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So, why do you fucking matter?

balmy condor
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I don't

iron carbon
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Lemme press tea when I want

balmy condor
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none of us matter

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it's just objective math

normal mist
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wdym i matter

balmy condor
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that nothing you do with tea

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will make it better or worse

humble verge
humble verge
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we are a state of matter

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in the laws of physics

fallow canopy
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Be a tea scalder not a tea malder xla

zealous moth
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my thistle tea got cold while waiting for kb what do?

royal lantern
iron carbon
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I never said it was dps increase

fallow canopy
thorn thorn
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Feelycraft

humble verge
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so your own way of percieving matter is a cause to believe you might lack intelligence, and be under 100 iq ☝️ 🤓

fallow canopy
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You get thirsty during kb?

thorn thorn
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Like always

iron carbon
gritty laurel
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highrolling on a good kill timer and pretending that your tea timing was what made you parse higher?

royal lantern
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@thorn thorn cute pfp btw, joltik is the best

thorn thorn
iron carbon
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I just fucking want to be able to chose when tea is use

fallow canopy
thorn thorn
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Then do it

gritty laurel
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you literally can do that

thorn thorn
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Actually very easy

gritty laurel
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it won't be better, but you absolutely can

haughty flicker
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guys what do i make on mop classic

zealous moth
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just don't ever go under 50 energy

haughty flicker
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im only doing it for the mount but maybe i enjoy it

royal lantern
worn geyser
balmy condor
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you think I want tea to be an auto-proc macro shit? I don't fucking want this, I want energy to matter for something, but it fucking doesn't and neither does tea and neither does pooling and so I have to sit here and argue for the thing I fucking don't even want because some dipshit shows up and pretends like they have the keys to the kingdom and invents some min-max that doesn't even exist out of pure spite to math itself and then round and round and round we go about the same stupid fucking delusions every god damn week for a year and a half and I'm so sick of this community jesus fuck okay I actually need to close discord

fallow canopy
balmy condor
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fuck all of you

grim jay
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I love how its all just a big cycle of endless nonsense, now we are back at tea stupidity

grim jay
fallow canopy
rugged cobalt
cursive root
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auto tea 📈

gritty laurel
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that's the spirit

cursive root
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love this community, im now pro auto tea

red schooner
iron carbon
thorn thorn
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Skill issue

iron carbon
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Prolly

gritty laurel
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wym i sit at under 30 energy all the time

worn geyser
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you can do that already

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u just ignore the tea

polar rampart
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when should i tea?

grim jay
cursive root
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where would we be without autotea, seriously

zealous moth
thorn thorn
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People dont wanna ignore the tea cuz they think its a ting they need to worry about

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Its been a hot topic ever since auto tea

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And no amount of "not worth thinking about" will get people to stop trying to think it matters

zealous moth
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probly using tea after sprint bc you'll need to rehydrate after running so much

thorn thorn
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real

gritty laurel
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it used to be more important before kingsbane was nerfed and people apparently can't let that go

grim jay
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Head first

red schooner
royal lantern
worn geyser
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like its not even an ability u need on ur bars in M+ or raid its like not a gain at all to change how u play around it cause ye it lines up by default

thorn thorn
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They act like before we didnt just macro it to another ability

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Instead of KB its shiv

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KB isnt even really a "burst" window cuz it got nerfed so hard

worn geyser
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macro to shiv , forget it exist and go 95 parse and cry about how ur enh sham blew up the adds 1 second faster due to his procs cause that has more impact on ur dps than trying to gamify tea

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or if u really want to press it with a separate keybind, just press it same time as you press shiv gg

iron carbon
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Sure

thorn thorn
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The legendary Whispyr crashout is going in the Ravenholdt hall of fame

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We all deserve some time out for that one

iron carbon
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Yep, pray for his mental break down

cunning basin
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We all deserve a time out, some more than others

cursive root
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the clear fix here is make tricks function the exact same as PI

thorn thorn
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He will be fine

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Probably

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Just use tricks on the next in line to receive his wrath

haughty flicker
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i could play devils advocate but i dont want to be shot in the head by the ghost of whispyr

haughty flicker
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no i'll save it for next time

cursive root
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just whispyr it

haughty flicker
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cant blow the whole load at once

shell crater
thorn thorn
humble verge
iron carbon
waxen oyster
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tbh

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tricksing your devoker or ret pally would give you more dps

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than "optimal" tea use

thorn thorn
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Friendly reminder to always use tricks on your local devoker so they rip aggro and die

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This message brought to you from Wyrmrest Temple

waxen oyster
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you mean the place that has been under siege like 4-5x?

iron carbon
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I got to much evokers in my roster

thorn thorn
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Not the actual place

waxen oyster
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you know

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we wouldnt have SL

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if bolvar didnt lose the square up to sylvanas

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think about it

iron carbon
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Bolvar, that loser

thorn thorn
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Bolvars biggest mistake was not being the favorite of the writers

cunning basin
thorn thorn
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Massive skill issue on his part tbh

iron carbon
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Beaten by a waifu

haughty flicker
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bolvar isnt a hot elf he was doomed from the start

thorn thorn
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Real

thorn thorn
zealous moth
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best macro

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i have it

thorn thorn
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how do it work

iron carbon
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You are so sick

zealous moth
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you press it

iron carbon
zealous moth
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and you get feet

cunning basin
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😩 xalatoes

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I mean

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Who said that

thorn thorn
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Yall are weird

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Im making a WA that outs people who use it

zealous moth
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no shit

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we play rogue

thorn thorn
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Its gonna play a message in chat that says "(Player) likes feeties"

normal mist
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Any feet enjoyers in the chat?

iron carbon
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Now I made Whispyr alt+f4, Time to bed, good night boyz

iron carbon
normal mist
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:3

fallow canopy
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:3

haughty flicker
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:3

thorn thorn
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:3

runic hinge
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:3

bitter bane
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
thorn thorn
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Whispyr has returned

frank trench
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Ooo 8% across the board buff that’s neat

royal lantern
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i mean, its a adjustment for its performance on the ptr

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tuning, the thing they do during it (and after it)

frank trench
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Yeah but it doesn’t mean that it’s not neat

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I like neat things.

royal lantern
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fair

marsh fjord
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yo whats up gang

royal lantern
marsh fjord
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Are you up

royal lantern
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no im tryan

marsh fjord
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Are you gonna grind DN?

royal lantern
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yes

marsh fjord
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nice

red schooner
main bridge
# balmy condor you think I want tea to be an auto-proc macro shit? I don't fucking want this, I...

you think I want tea to be an a-auto-pwoc macro shit!!11 I don't fucking want this, I want enyewgy to m-mattew fow something, but it fucking doesn't and nyeithew does tea and nyeithew does poowing and so I have to sit ^-^ hewe and awgue fow the boops your nose thing I fucking don't even OwO want because some dipshit shows up and pwetends wike they have the boops your nose keys to the boops your nose kingdom and invents some min-max that doesn't even OwO exist out of puwe spite to math itself and then wound and wound and wound w-w-we go about the boops your nose same stupid fucking dewusions evewy god damn week fow a yeaw and a hawf and I'm so sick of this communyity ;;w;; jesus fuck okay I actuawwy screams nyeed to cwose discowd

haughty flicker
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god that goes hard

red schooner
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I don't know where the line is between people joking with whispyr and people trying to annoy him is but I hope people are aiming for the former

main bridge
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There are people here whose entire personality revolves around trying to make people mad

red schooner
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And those people need to... Not

haughty flicker
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shitposting must be tempered with knowledge

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lest we stray too far from god

main bridge
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Agreed but it’s very unlikely

red schooner
thorn thorn
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But I dont touch obvious rage bait topics

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Like auto tea

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Cuz not even I am that dumb

haughty flicker
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ngl i still think there is a valid reason for auto tea to be a choice node

red schooner
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Yeah, I like to shitpost sometimes but like, dunno, doing it to the point of inducing someone to leave, too far imo

haughty flicker
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not for any current optimizations or whatever like people say

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but because in the future tuning very well could change so that tea actually does matter, and then it'll be annoying

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but most of the time its people saying its bad now bc of x or y when right now it doesnt matter at all

thorn thorn
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Why talk about that when we could talk about how ass Fatebound is

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And how it somehow hasnt gotten a redesign

plain solstice
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is there a rogue cc on the gorillas during mythic cauldron that works to pop them

fallow canopy
haughty flicker
thorn thorn
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We said that last season bro

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At this point its gonna be in the last season of midnight it finally gets changed

haughty flicker
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i didnt say it last season

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so it didnt happen

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now im saying it so its true

red schooner
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A part of me still hopes for tweaks this season but like, we're just gonna get aura buffed instead ain't we?

thorn thorn
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Probably

haughty flicker
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they've already designated the classes that get actual changes this patch cycle

thorn thorn
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If they are doing massive aura buffs during PTR they either dont have any plans for major changes, or are just doing it as a bandaid fix for testing

haughty flicker
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we just wait for next one

red schooner
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Which is crap when the same criticisms of it have been brought up since beta

thorn thorn
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Greedy mages and priests have to get all the changes

haughty flicker
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i mean this patch is priest/dk

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and hunter to a lesser extent

thorn thorn
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I just like to blame mages

haughty flicker
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fair

devout hazel
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why i see top players in rio for assa m+ with seaforium

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and bis gear see other thing

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about the best trinket

red schooner
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Ignore bis lists

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Just stop

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Don't look at them

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They purely exist for SEO optimisation and they have zero bearing on the current game

devout hazel
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so

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what should i pick based

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if i want to do a lot of dps

red schooner
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Sims

west crown
red schooner
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You sim yourself and your upgrades

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And equip bigger number

devout hazel
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between of the trinkets i can equip in the chip store

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that is the best one

west crown
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just get ilvl. if you are playing the game next season, 50% of your gear will be replaced in the first 2 weeks

red schooner
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The only advice you can get for gearing is to sim outside of some strange use cases

devout hazel
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from the store

red schooner
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Like kezan in pug m+ for example because I aint sure how dslice handles it

devout hazel
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and all same illv

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haha

red schooner
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Pick biggest number

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Life is simple

west crown
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you only really have 3 options. House of Cards or Signet or the Priory and then Pacemaker. Not a lot of choices this season

red schooner
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The robot does the thinking so i don't have to

thorn thorn
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I feel bad for the robot so I do all my thinking myself

red schooner
thorn thorn
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I do pure vibes based gearing cuz life is too short to worry about optimization

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Thats a complete lie actually

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I vibe based gearing cuz im too lazy to sim

red schooner
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Real

uneven plume
cunning basin
gloomy silo
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단일딜 심크에서 원래 가속값이 높나요?? 랭커들은 12~14정도 인거같은데 제 캐릭기준 가속이 17이에요; 심크대로 올려야할지 아니면 가속일정수준까지만 맞춰야 할지 조언을 구해요

main bridge
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not sure how many people here speak Korean chief

thorn thorn
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Something about key levels and builds

main bridge
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!builds

prisma monolithBOT
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Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
  • Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
  • Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
  • Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
main bridge
thorn thorn
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Either that or something related to uptime on something

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I cant tell

main bridge
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my GF wants me to learn more Korean but all i know how to say is hello, thank you, and delicious

thorn thorn
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Oh its a stat question actually

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Think they are asking about haste

pure moth
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Per Google

runic hinge
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haste

thorn thorn
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Thats similar to what I got, my translations are dodgy at best

haughty flicker
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no hablo espanol

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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nie mówię po polsku

thorn thorn
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That sounds like a maybe

snow hamlet
haughty flicker
snow hamlet
frank trench
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Can someone clarify dry shiv timing for me based on guide? It’s before second kingsbane right after third deathmark pops on the full combo envenom?

coral ibex
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its during lingering darkness

frank trench
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That’s it? It’s not like before the big envenom or anything?

haughty flicker
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any time you are in lingering darkness with darkest night up

polar rampart
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that is the big enbenom

haughty flicker
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idk what the rest of the shit you said was but thats irrelevant

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can do it after every deathmark if it lines up

frank trench
haughty flicker
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ok but what was that second kingsbane third deathmark stuff

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bc none of that is relevant to dry shiv

frank trench
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Well cause you arent going to do it after the lone kingsbane cause you have to build to have 2 shivs for the death mark and kingsbane window

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Right?

haughty flicker
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you wont do it after the lone kingsbane because you wont have lingering darkness

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you can only do it in the 30 seconds after a deathmark

frank trench
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Ohhhhh

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Ty bel

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I was confusing that and popping the last mark in a deathstalker

fallow canopy
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Which is fair

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But yk

frank trench
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Yes sorry :/

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That’s what was effing me up

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It’s all clear now ty homies 🙂

rotund oak
obtuse walrus
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
jagged sierra
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Is it worth using Crimson Tempest on Single Target bosses

main bridge
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if you're using bleed build yes

jagged sierra
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Always or justy when Im using death mark?

main bridge
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always

jagged sierra
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Figured as much but thank you much for confirming ^^

zenith elm
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Good morning fellow Rogues

dense cedar
zenith elm
iron carbon
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Morning

zenith elm
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Hello 😄

humble verge
zenith elm
humble verge
radiant snow
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why is sin looking so rough on ptr logs atm

balmy condor
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cause PTR tuning is whack and always is and it makes PTR logs entirely pointless

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some specs log into a new patch and have tier sets worth nearly 50%

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and some specs log into a new patch and have tier sets worth 2%

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some trinkets are like 10%, some are like 2%

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that's why it's a TEST realm

shell crater
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I always get so damn anxious on a new patch lol cos I feel like theres no way to choose the right spec to compete

balmy condor
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numbers make no sense on that realm and never do

earnest remnant
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u got loads of time

earnest remnant
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and lets be real for the last like 8 tiers

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its mostlikely just gonna be sub

earnest remnant
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and you get like all the info you need tuesday when the season starts

shell crater
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Appreciate the info, I'm still getting used to trying to optimise my start of season

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I'm pretty nooby when it comes to that

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But cos my guild is pushing for CE now I wanna be best prepped you know? XD

earnest remnant
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imma be honest if the goal is to hit the first CE next patch

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what you choose the first 2 months wont really matter

shell crater
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Well we're currently trying to kill gallywix so we could get it this season, but yeah

earnest remnant
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at that point comfortability is 10x more important than a 10% dmg diff in specs (if played right)

shell crater
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True, I guess it'd be better for me to high purple/orange one spec instead of high blue all three

balmy condor
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I one-trick sin nowadays and it's totally fine

earnest remnant
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but i will say if its a decision that weighs alot on you, just tune in to RWF splits and see what the rogues are playing and copy that for the first few weeks until the meta actuall settles down

balmy condor
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honestly unless you're like pushing for a 6-8 week CE

shell crater
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Yeah sin is my main

balmy condor
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you can one-trick and vibe

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being good at one thing

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is much better than being mid at multiple

earnest remnant
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i mean i raid in wr 50 area

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and i used to fully OTP

balmy condor
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yeh

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it's totally fine

earnest remnant
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so its def more than fine

shell crater
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Aight I get it, maybe I'll just stick with sin then, I was getting oranges on it but I quit the game for a couple months so just gotta dust the rust off

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Thanks ❤️

earnest remnant
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now i just swap between sub and assa depending on what i think is better

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for the given fight

shell crater
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Yeah, outlaw is super fun but the apm is a bit much for me

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Slightest bit of lag or I even get hand pain after a while lol

earnest remnant
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yeh, i dont touch outlaw with a 10 foot pole, i do not enjoy that spec

royal lantern
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CTS is no joke

shell crater
earnest remnant
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depends on the pain

shell crater
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Was kinda in my knuckles and finger joints would be the best way to describe it

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Probably me getting old 😂

zenith elm
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i tried outlaw, started to hurt in my hands, didnt play outlaw

dense cedar
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I've warmed up to outlaw over time, except the current version

zenith elm
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So you ... didnt warm up to it ? xD

dense cedar
zenith elm
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Oooh ok ok

old lily
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when playing the forced induction build how heavy do we lean on Scent of Blood during aoe

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like if the mobs have 90 mil hp left and 10 second ruptures do i reapply them?

solar wyvern
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If you mean the no garrote FI build then almost not at all

old lily
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or do i stay focused on envenom for caustics and CT

balmy condor
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scent of blood kind of very important

old lily
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so we only apply them at the opener for energy then?

balmy condor
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considering you're also not using garrote

solar wyvern
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Oh i miss reas

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I thought u said Sudden demise topkek

balmy condor
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so if you don't have scent of blood stacks, you lose a shit ton of damage, and then also don't have energy

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and then also lose CT damage

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so

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kinda GIGA suck

old lily
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so it's definitly worth to keep it up on 5 mobs then

balmy condor
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yes, it is your entire engine

solar wyvern
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Yeah ruptures very good if pack living lmao

old lily
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just wondering about the durations to mob hp since it feels dumb to apply on 50m hp mobs if the pack is dying

balmy condor
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% agi, all your energy, all your sanguine damage, your ability to cast the envenoms in the first place, lethal dose stacks

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rupture is a very good button

solar wyvern
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50m hp is like 6-10 seconds of combat it is worth it to reapply a few at the very least

balmy condor
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and you recover some of the lost damage from sudden demise

old lily
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yea i get that, it's just often that i'm not certain if it's worth it

balmy condor
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so it's still good

old lily
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but i guess it should generally be then?

balmy condor
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if you're not omega capped on energy it's ALWAYS worth it in fact

old lily
balmy condor
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like rupturing something that dies in 1 second would still be worth

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if you can make use of the energy

old lily
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alright

balmy condor
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ye olde rupture snipe

solar wyvern
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The only time i don't reup my ruptures is if theres like 1 mob with 20m hp and we just say eh we play for restealth and I'm not ooe and it dies in 2-3 globals from group dps

old lily
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Kingsbane only shows up as 3% of my overall damage, but i assume a bunch of the damage KB does is also tied into spatter right?

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so the actual value is much higher

balmy condor
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yah but 3% is kinda shit

#

are you holding it randomly or something

solar wyvern
#

That seems low even for overall

balmy condor
#

yah

old lily
#

i did hold 2 of them poorly

balmy condor
#

especially with a cleave build

#

should be much higher

old lily
#

so i lost out on 2 in hindsight

#

and i had 2 that didn't get properly stacked due to me having to run out of aoe due to the boss being stupid

solar wyvern
#

Never hold, even if a mob will die halfway because you want to sync it with deathmark and if you dont sync you're delaying your deathmark and its really bad

#

Unless you know a pack lives only 1:10> seconds and you're not going to deathmark it anyway

old lily
#

i feel like my KB stacks super fkn slow

solar wyvern
#

I.e second pull rookery lasts 1:10ish seconds on a higher key so your deathmark will come back up when everything is 15% hp so you rip kb on the pack even if it delays dm

#

Since you're forced to delay anyway, but holding kb sucks generally

balmy condor
#

I mean dumb question

#

but are you actually applying all 4 poisons

old lily
#

in my opener i get rupture up, then an envenom, then DM->shiv->kb->enven

balmy condor
#

and autoing the thing you kingsbaned

#

if the answer to both of those is yes, what is your definition of slow stacking

old lily
#

amp,deadly,cripp,atropic

#

i find i often only get about 20 stacks with 8-9 sec left sometimes even though i feel like i'm actively slapping the mob

balmy condor
#

20 stacks in 6 seconds on a non-dm seems pretty reasonable

solar wyvern
#

I dont actively track my kb stacks but that seems kinda normal? Max is 50

balmy condor
#

dm should basically full stack in like

#

6-7 seconds

#

but non-dm might never hit 50

old lily
#

ok then i don't think the stacking's the issue

#

just did a few openers and i seem to hit 50 in a bout that 6-7 mark with DM

solar wyvern
#

Actually tbh i looked at a cinderbrew 20 log and my kb was only 2.5% of my dps overall

#

Since its a very aoe dense dungeon

#

What dungeon was it 3%?

old lily
#

my 3% was in a priory 15

solar wyvern
#

Yeah that could make more sense since its also an aoe heavy key

#

I looked at a mechagon and it was 3.7% of my overall

#

So maybe 3% isnt THAT weird

old lily
#

cheers

jagged yoke
#

is the hybrid build much lower dps?

iron carbon
#

No

jagged yoke
#

oh cool, i liked it probs the best so will stick with that

iron carbon
#

That's what I do, I pref hybrid > bleeds

jagged yoke
#

its decent for m+ and raid or just m+?

normal mist
iron carbon
#

You don't play "Hybrid" in raid

normal mist
iron carbon
#

And yes, Royal is true

#

If you miss DM/Kb windows on pack, hybrid will be lower

jagged yoke
#

ok no worries, mostly just m+ and delves?

iron carbon
jagged yoke
#

lastly, is sanguine blades a lot of dps? i realised i was using iron wire instead

brave comet
#

key level?

shell crater
#

So, potentially stupid question

#

In raid, I presume I’m doing correct by holding both shivs for kb right?

#

Or do I only wanna hold both for dm with kb?

balmy condor
balmy condor
shell crater
#

Ooo I’ll have to have a read

jagged yoke
#

cool thanks!

#

also does kingsbane and shiv still work wiuth caustic splatter?

novel star
#

kingsbane yes, shiv no

#

shiv only affects the main target

forest nacelle
#

unless you got AP 😄

#

then its 8 targets

#

or 7 idk

#

i can't count so.

novel star
#

but yea kb spatter is like a lot of ur aoe dam

forest nacelle
#

mhmm

novel star
forest nacelle
#

yeah, my bad

#

xD

novel star
#

no worries beast ur good

#

not spreading misinformation

#

doing better than most of this discord

forest nacelle
#

i haven't been paying attention so

#

hows the sin life on PTR looking so far?

#

gotta try it later, but going out soon to the movies.

novel star
#

same shit

dense cedar
novel star
#

tuning could use a little work but same gameplay

#

fatebound set is cool but fatebound is still unplayable because it’s fatebound

forest nacelle
#

just add ilvl more dmg kind of deal? good for me, im relearning sin so xD

novel star
#

so you just go ds and it’s the same shit

spice surge
#

Yes, and theres a lot of target swaps in raid

dense cedar
#

I can't get over that bug of going from 6 > 8 on fatebound makes it not trigger

forest nacelle
novel star
spice surge
#

More like you need to actively think about your marks

#

To not have it stuck on targets that go immune/fly away

forest nacelle
#

Dx

#

would sub be good w/ crit and mastery gear? just curious. just in case xD

spice surge
#

Yes, just not haste

forest nacelle
#

fair

#

ok

#

i got like 6% atm

#

haste

tall jay
#

Sin is good 🙂

dense cedar
#

🙂

tall jay
#

See our kill yesterday on gally @forest nacelle hehehe

forest nacelle
gritty laurel
forest nacelle
#

also im only like 670 on my rogue xD

tall jay
#

lol no, not one button, I respect the class to much to do that, besides, Whispyr would take away my sin card…maybe…

forest nacelle
#

xD and forgot to ask you yesterday

tall jay
#

Na, I was gonna just to see if what it would do…but we didn’t even play the same spec you silly billy lol

forest nacelle
#

yeah was outlaw

#

xD

tall jay
rigid yew
#

hey all i did check Pinned messages to start- any front runnners for trinkets on PTR?

zenith elm
#

Its too early to know, you could ask that in 2 to 3 weeks

marsh fjord
rigid yew
#

thank you

runic basin
#

guys are you hyped?

somber sparrow
#

oh, hyped... dang

runic basin
#

fucking phone KEKW

frank trench
#

my god underpin ?? is spicy

pure moth
#

Yep it is. I tried it early in season and never went back. Hah

frank trench
#

yeah i am not sure how assassination rogue does this lol he moves so much during burst windows while your dodging lol

pure moth
#

Ill prob try again later tonight when I'm on. I think we have to move him more often. Just drag him along the walls to get out of shit. We can cloak but prob will only get 2 uses out of it for standing in shit.

frank trench
#

lol i bet this ez af with bm hunter run anywhere do dmg while running and kicking focuing on bombs while still doing max dmg haha

pure moth
#

Ya the only 3 people in my guild to do this.. are hunters.

midnight scroll
#

the underpin is harder than zekvir on it's own imo, but if you bait the adds and kite him correctly, he's way easier than zekvir if that makes sense

warm vortex
#

Underpin sucks ass thb

#

Zek was a much more enjoyable fight

marsh fjord
#

Guys in floodgate right. if you get nailgunned. beside evasion + dwarf is there a way to get out of the root any how?

normal mist
#

probably vanish

pure moth
#

Vanish?

normal mist
#

or you can just pray to god you don't get killed

pure moth
#

That to

spice surge
#

Well you could also blind to stop the bombs from spawning ontop of you

#

Since just being rooted isnt actually dangerous

marsh fjord
#

I was in this 16. and i got nailed gun. had no evasion + dwarf and i was stuck and the auto bots ran into my spinning and i died because of it and i got blamed while my healer or dps has stuns up.

#

and i had nothing to get out of it.

spice surge
#

Well ye somebody should stop those, but you can also be on the opposite side of the bots compared to your ranged

marsh fjord
#

and my healer also had angel up ( it was holy)

#

but didnt use it on me

spice surge
#

The bots move towards a random player

marsh fjord
#

Yeah they all moved to me

#

when i was stuck 😄

spice surge
#

They dont all target the same person no

marsh fjord
#

oh well i saw my name under the cast

spice surge
#

So if you had the mobs inbetween yourself and the ranged

marsh fjord
#

so i presumed they moved to me

spice surge
#

Then some would be moving towards the ranged and/or other players instead of you

marsh fjord
#

but beside vanish evasion + dwarf there is nothing else to get out of the root?

#

shadowstep doesnt work?

spice surge
#

No

marsh fjord
#

Oke thanks.

shy creek
#

The bots can be hard cc’s

#

If nobody on your team does it, yoy sie

#

you die

solar wyvern
#

o7

spice surge
#

I mean the dot is kinda whatever, but the initial hit hurts

solar wyvern
#

Idk man i wasn't being healed for the 4 seconds and it straight up killed me lmao

#

That dots a lil nasty

#

But also i didnt use mitigation cause i literally didn't know it had a dot components lmfao

runic hinge
#

#priohealing

solar wyvern
#

#greedyarmswarrior do the box so my healer can heal me

#

#ohhealllllerrrr

#

#lesstalkymorehealy

runic hinge
#

#iwillnotexhilthere

spice surge
#

Its like 1.8M unmitigated per tick, which is not nothing but not that big

solar wyvern
#

Ye its like 4m initial hit and 7m dot

#

Rip my health pool

spice spire
#

How about some fucking prio healing

lean plover
#

just blame healer and move on, its obviously their job duh

warm vortex
#

Keep a blade with healing juices in your back pocket, and stab yourself with it when need be

spice spire
#

I should call her

winged sun
spice spire
#

GM bbgirl

winged sun
stark halo
#

Are we going to want to use the boots from optional boss in the new raid? Switch embellishments to wrists I’m guessing

warm vortex
#

When it comes and and sims are updated for it
we will see

silent compass
#

Just got bandit down finally!

#

I think i did well this time 🙂

azure shoal
#

1.14 billion dps?

#

based

silent compass
#

Yippeee

marsh fjord
#

After 3 months I finally successfully updated my bios 💀💀

#

No more errors 😂

novel star
#

bios updates lowkey scary

marsh fjord
#

Yeah it really is

#

It can fuck up your motherboard

grim jay
#

Yeah if you got no flashback key

marsh fjord
#

I don’t have a flashback key 💀

#

Don’t even know what that supposed to mean 💀💀💀

grim jay
#

You can just roll back to a different BIOS Version if your current one is bricked

#

Without the PC turning on

marsh fjord
#

Oh nah do not have that

grim jay
#

Its mostly in the high end motherboards

#

Because people that have those usually fiddle around with stuff

silent compass
#

Caustic spatter or internal on mug?

stark halo
#

Spatter

marsh fjord
#

i have a high end one. but just didnt hear of it.

civic imp
#

is there a command for the macro for shadowmeld stealth to re - apply garrotes for bleed build? mine never works properly :< sorry I know it's probably been asked a bunch

spice surge
#

Well you need to go into stealth, so you need your meld to leave combat to stealth afterwards

#

meld will never let you leave combat during a boss fight

civic imp
#

I was thinking more for m+ purposes

#

this is what i've tried and it has a hit and miss success:

/stopattack
/cast Shadowmeld
/cast !Stealth

thorn thorn
#

Is whispyr back or are we still in time out

runic hinge
#

Haven’t seen him today

inner swift
#

he is in his anti raga bait mode

zenith elm
#

Nooo i wanna rage bait whispyr 😦

red schooner
#

No you don't

pallid kestrel
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

marsh fjord
thorn thorn
humble verge
#

yes do

thorn thorn
#

No

thorn thorn
humble verge
#

mid ky

#

keyu

thorn thorn
#

Weak

humble verge
#

@gusty mirage

gusty mirage
humble verge
#

is fuu

#

the ownere of the uh

#

streamer bot

humble verge
deft shard
#

!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

humble verge
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gusty mirage
humble verge
#

is it fuu's bot

#

cause its not showing up when i stream :3

#

not that it really has that much to matter

umbral sigil
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
marsh fjord
#

does someone have PI sims for sin i want to know how much of a increase it is for us

humble verge
#

:))

thorn thorn
#

uwa

marsh fjord
#

ty

waxen oyster
#

@thorn thorn do you have dracythr knock mine gif

waxen oyster
#

motherlode

thorn thorn
#

Knocking a lethal mine into another player?

waxen oyster
#

yeah

humble verge
#

HAHAHAHAHAH

humble verge
humble verge
#

kekw

thorn thorn
#

The cherry ontop is it being an augvoker too

waxen oyster
#

How did the priest get back

thorn thorn
#

?

shy heron
thorn thorn
#

uhhhhh

#

No idea what you are asking tbh

#

Wait

#

Wasnt jb the one that had the several month long guild trial

main bridge
#

ya and then they were like SIKE NAH right before the new tier

#

i think they knew they didn't want him and just kept him around for splits

thorn thorn
#

Cringe

waxen oyster
#

yeah but he’s big in m+ pepeclown

thorn thorn
#

Mr fancy over here

#

He must not be that big cuz I almost never hear of him dracthyr_hehe

#

I only know of 6 content creators for wow

brave comet
#

someone got really mad at me

elfin flame
#

bump

royal lantern
royal lantern
#

idk if something could even contain all rogue bugs dracthyr_kek

haughty flicker
#

i think theres been a github in the past but i dont think its updated much anymore

thorn thorn
elfin flame
#

there's one for sub/law and it is a large list

#

and im sure sin would be similar just nto sure if its maintained anywhere

haughty flicker
# brave comet someone got really mad at me

ok but did you know that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime?

brave comet
thorn thorn
#

Omegalul

royal lantern
#

checkmater loser

candid sun
#

He'll probably get defensive

balmy condor
# elfin flame bump

We do ones for big expac stuff, like we had one for hero talents, but most of the bugs mid-expac would be like random inconsequential stuff and not really important stuff that needs to be constantly tested and updated in a sheet

#

Just kind of a lot of effort for little payout

candid sun
#

Maybe even call him a Temu Ret

thorn thorn
#

Dad has returned from the store

spice surge
haughty flicker
thorn thorn
waxen oyster
#

Wrong class if you expected changes garf_sit

humble verge
#

still trying to figure out what race to do for my 3rd rogue

#

nelf or dwarf

#

🤨

thorn thorn
#

Drac

haughty flicker
#

velf

#

belf but cheaper transmog

#

bis race

nova kelp
#

Wtf is a 3rd rogue. Just play the first one more.

humble verge
#

nah

#

why would i play a char

candid sun
#

Maybe he likes hoarding rogues

humble verge
#

that i have like completed

haughty flicker
#

need more rogues in case you get sephuz first

humble verge
#

real

#

reaaal

#

rekrpwaokeløkdkpolawdpkolwapkodawpkowad

brave comet
#

exactly a 685 rogue is boring

nova kelp
#

Imagine were one of the lower population classes and there's a bunch of peeps in here with multiple active rogues...

#

Lol

thorn thorn
#

No imagination needed

#

Its probably reality

nova kelp
#

I thought there was 12 of us... Maybe there's only 8

candid sun
#

I have a 2nd rogue I'm leveling to also teach myself Sub but I don't actively play multiple rogues lol

haughty flicker
#

i only have one of each class personally

candid sun
#

Though I considered dedicating each toon to one spec or smth

humble verge
#

2 of my rogues

haughty flicker
#

but i get why people make multiple

nova kelp
#

You don't learn sub while leveling.

humble verge
#

now there will be a

#

Sergeitri

#

and maybe a Sergeifir

nova kelp
#

Sub leveling is
Stealth
Strike
Evis
Stealth
Strike
Evis

humble verge
#

cba

candid sun
# nova kelp You don't learn sub while leveling.

If I don't know how to string shit together, I make a new character so I learn how each ability sequentially works as it's given to me. When I came back after not playing since Cata, you can imagine my surprise when I had symbols of death and other shit

#

Obviously I know now

#

It's just nuts and bolts

nova kelp
#

Yeah no I get the problem. Its just a bigger problem than normal on that spec in particular. You borderline have to learn everything fresh for the end game even if you play the the whole way through.

#

On the upside. God tier FOR leveling

candid sun
#

The best practice comes from doing; I agree. I'm just not going to throw myself into the deep end when I don't have basics covered lol

#

I know assassin

#

I'm a one trick currently

humble verge
#

i wonder

#

will i have worse times crafting stuff on twisting nether with an ally char

#

since i cant whisper horde

waxen oyster
#

Velf is basically belf

#

with better hairstyles

haughty flicker
#

have horde alt, ask in chat, swap and send order

nova kelp
#

Wouldn't know. On oce EVERYONE is ally

humble verge
#

no but like

#

oh true ig

waxen oyster
#

Only reason to play horde nowadays

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

is brown orc is big dam

humble verge
#

idk i have a normal orc

haughty flicker
#

because nelf is for nerds

humble verge
#

i dont like the borc

waxen oyster
#

horde stinks

humble verge
#

gorc vs borc

waxen oyster
#

ya’ll cant even build roads

#

smh

nova kelp
#

Gorc n borc?
Is this the wow version of gork n mork?

runic hinge
humble verge
#

the thing is tho

#

meld doesnt work to restealth on bossfights right

#

iirc

worthy rose
#

are we talking about races

haughty flicker
worthy rose
#

have yall noticed for nightleves and bloodelves

candid sun
worthy rose
#

they make dagers look huge

#

like swords

candid sun
nova kelp
#

Human female yeah

candid sun
#

My legendary daggers look obnoxiously huge

nova kelp
#

MASSIVE weapon models on human females

thorn thorn
candid sun
#

This has been a thing since like Cata too lol

prisma cypress
#

human female is the way, the truth, and the light

candid sun
#

Maybe vanilla

humble verge
candid sun
#

I have human and nelf

haughty flicker
#

i have belf and belf

#

and belf and another belf

candid sun
#

Every time I try to level something that isn't that I get bored -.-

haughty flicker
#

and druid is nelf because nelf is the only race that can be druid unfortunately

candid sun
#

I need motivation to play my draenei enhancement shaman named goatc

waxen oyster
#

human female weapon size got nerfed

waxen oyster
#

the same patch belf female got buffed

#

aka nightold

nova kelp
#

People who level in their free time make me feel GOOD about farming mounts. That shit is a sickness.

candid sun
thorn thorn
candid sun
#

Wild

candid sun
haughty flicker
waxen oyster
#

belf had tiny weapons until nighthold patch

candid sun
#

I had a lot of fun after coming back and leveling a hunter from scratch on a trial

#

Though getting Invincible and Ashes from this mount thing was a pleasant surprise

#

As far as I'm concerned I won WoW by my own standards

waxen oyster
#

imagine not getting invincible years ago

#

from doing the legendary

candid sun
candid sun
nova kelp
#

I will admit. I enjoyed leveling in BFA. But the ally zone in BFA is custom built to be entertaining for me. Pirates? Check. Horror? Check. Cthulhu? Check.

If it had a sci fi zone I'd have climaxed

waxen oyster
#

they are proportional

#

you play female orc

thorn thorn
candid sun
#

No thanks

waxen oyster
#

like a normal person

candid sun
#

Female orc is fugly

haughty flicker
candid sun
#

I will slutmog a male orc though

haughty flicker
#

one of my favorite ever imo

waxen oyster
#

i got mine doing smourne

#

skill issue really

thorn thorn
#

Im not much of a mount collector tbh

waxen oyster
#

I got warglaives in 5 runs

#

Just loot it wtf are you doing

thorn thorn
#

The only one I would consider getting is the one from jailor

nova kelp
#

So get it

candid sun
#

That is on my list currently

#

The only one I want

#

maybe Mimrion's head

nova kelp
#

I'm a shade under 1100 mounts now

thorn thorn
#

The rest of the time I either use the stormwind gunship or one of the DF drakes

waxen oyster
prisma cypress
#

yeah when this event started i came to realize that there just aren't more than a few rare drop mounts i'd even care to use

thorn thorn
#

And maybe the head from gally?

#

Idk

waxen oyster
#

same kill my bron summon knocked a boomkin into a hole

#

as god intended

nova kelp
#

Big g is kinda eeeehhhhhh

#

Fyrak mount slaughters big g

candid sun
thorn thorn
#

I collect mounts when they are available but most of the time i set the ones i think are cool as favorite and just have summon random favorite mount

candid sun
#

Is it similar to the dutchman mounts aesthetically?

thorn thorn
candid sun
#

Makes sense

#

Ain't time traveling then

nova kelp
#

It came up on the traders too

thorn thorn
candid sun
#

Lmao

waxen oyster
#

Big G is just a flex

candid sun
#

Cute

#

I like it

nova kelp
#

We got our raid group big g

#

Now I expect no-one to log in till the patch

waxen oyster
#

I dont think everyone will get

#

people playing like shit

#

got mine so whatever

thorn thorn
#

I got rasz appearance for the protodrake and the mythic sark appearance for the highland drake

#

Good enough for me

waxen oyster
#

i never got rasz skin

#

sark one was 100% though

thorn thorn
#

Sark one was cool

waxen oyster
#

best drake skin is the s1 pvp one

thorn thorn
#

I only have the free fyrakk one from doing aotc

#

I didnt bother trying to farm that one since i already had rasz appearance and wasnt too interested in trying to get the recolor

nova kelp
#

See the drake skins were pointless to me. They don't give me a +1

#

No extra mount? Nah fuck you

waxen oyster
#

fyrak owl is nice

#

also hunter pet and druid skin

haughty flicker
#

fyrakk owl is very cool

nova kelp
#

The fryak owl is GOATEDA

haughty flicker
#

one of the few mythic mounts i actually like

nova kelp
#

I use it constantly

waxen oyster
#

well next season

#

you get a tbc glad mount

#

with armor

thorn thorn
#

The only reason I wanted the fyrakk owl was just for hunter pet dracthyr_lulmao

nova kelp
#

I wish the black widow spider flew though. Just by running on webs you can see under its feet.

waxen oyster
#

im just thinking

nova kelp
#

That would be the best mount

waxen oyster
#

how many ledges can i swapblast someone off

#

in manaforge

#

i always got to gally first just to wait at the ledge to swap someone coming

marsh fjord
humble verge
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we goin with this @haughty flicker :3

waxen oyster
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Also use jaina’s locket on a warlocke summoning closet

nova kelp
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Oh

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My

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God

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Fuck I'm so doing that from now on

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The best bit is they'd blame the mage

candid sun
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Throwback to when I finished a Mythic GB and our mage put a portal to old dalaran and I fell and died in the crater because I clicked too fast

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Had me giggling

waxen oyster
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Yeah used to put old dalaran portals on ordos group closets

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that was before the tooltip specified which dalaran too

thorn thorn
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Yall are pure evil

waxen oyster
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It took you out of the game and gave you deserter

haughty flicker
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lmfao

nova kelp
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That's fucking terrible

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I tip my fedora to you

waxen oyster
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Why isnt direbrew remote a toy blizz

candid sun
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Goblin behavior

thorn thorn
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Xiani is pure evil

shell crater
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!logs

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

worthy rose
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has someone discovere a way to use ai to review logs

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and give quick feedback

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that could be pretty pog of a function

thorn thorn
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Oh hell no

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We are not about to ask chatgpt how to play assassination rogue

lean plover
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cant wait for people to actively sabotage it

thorn thorn
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Yea "people" is gonna be Whispyr

lean plover
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And its gonna be amazing

humble verge
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ChatGPT > Whispyr

thorn thorn
candid sun
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Whyspyri is just an AI larping as a human

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I can't spell

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W.e

lean plover
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on the other hand, a bot that scolds people for asking the same questions over, trained by whispyr

thorn thorn
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Whyspyri

candid sun
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I like that name unironically

humble verge
candid sun
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On brand for WoW

lean plover
lean plover
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Omg

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train the bot to have meltdowns after x amount of replies

thorn thorn
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Peak asf

lean plover
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and it just pings whispyr and leaves the channel