for all 12s
#assassination
zenith elm
Its easier to reroll rn haha
waxen oyster
our trial said he was gonna play fatebound on sprocket
humble verge
well
waxen oyster
he quicckly realized that was a terrible idea
zenith elm
True
indigo mulch
he quicckly realized that was a terrible idea
Oh my..
zenith elm
I need to have my gallywix kill, its the only one i miss
humble verge
cooking with the stats
zenith elm
Noice stats
waxen oyster
yeah similar to mine
warrior seems weird how
they're good in raid
but kind of a meme in keys
zenith elm
True also 🤣
indigo mulch
I dunno I don't think dps war are memes in m+
waxen oyster
pretty sure prot warrior doesnt have selfheal
humble verge
honestly
zenith elm
It does now
humble verge
it feels weird actually pumping dps
waxen oyster
unless you play indomitable
humble verge
even without signet/hoc
zenith elm
Bc of bloodletting
zenith elm
Yeah true, i was talking ptr build
zenith elm
Whats your favourite tank ?
zenith elm
I love prot warr, like the dam makes me feel goood
waxen oyster
might play mop just to abuse vengeance
obtuse robin
i know we sometimes shiv to buff a darkest night but do we ever also press tea for that?
winged sun
yea send it if u need the energy
winged sun
i know we sometimes shiv to buff a darkest night but do we ever also press tea f...
^'
ideally you want tea's for kingsbane windows
so make sure u have one for each kingsbane window
obtuse robin
cool
iron carbon
Morning Zeross, did you sleep tonight?
iron carbon
so make sure u have one for each kingsbane window
Also got a question on that
winged sun
Morning Zeross, did you sleep tonight?
Good morning, im about to sleep
winged sun
Also got a question on that
Sure
iron carbon
If I had to skip a KB cast, my tea and kb are desync, better keep sending tea when I need energy or better avoid auto proc so I can sync again?
Happened to me yesterday
winged sun
If you had to skip a KB cast ur dps is already fucked, i think tea usage wont matter in comparison to you skipping an entire kingsbane
However
If you can avoid wasting the tea, try to do that but if u do consume it its not a big deal
It doesn’t matter that much
Mainly for tea, key places you can use it on is last few ticks of kingsbane during deathmark window, knowing that kingsbane does its ticking damage every 2.00 seconds
So make sure ur tea is used before 6.00 seconds
Tea’s big role is to use it on a raw kingsbane when deathmark isn’t ready
Because u wont have much energy otherwise to stack up kingsbane
So if you feel like your in trouble and you dont have tea or energy just afk before kingsbane is ready at high combo points (make sure darkest night isn’t up) for auto atk dmg, then send that envenom into kingsbane since u pooled a good amount
humble verge
native turret
Ofc
iron carbon
youre french
Belgian*
iron carbon
If you had to skip a KB cast ur dps is already fucked, i think tea usage wont ma...
Sorry, was driving. It happens when pulls end when KB come back than we start another pull and I got 30 sec left on DM. I assume it's better to skip kb than delay dn/KB for 30 sec
humble verge
Omfg never say that again
iron carbon
So make sure ur tea is used before 6.00 seconds
Kb doesn't proc at 0 sec? It only deals at 6,4 and 2 sec left?
iron carbon
So if you feel like your in trouble and you dont have tea or energy just afk bef...
Thanks, trying to optimize and pug situation makes cd coordination a bit weird sometimes
earnest remnant
Kb doesn't proc at 0 sec? It only deals at 6,4 and 2 sec left?
?
iron carbon
I don't get what Zeross meant then
Cuz it says press before 6 sec left
But it should be between 6 and 4 then
earnest remnant
think he just meant to say to cover the last 6 seconds, but im not sure
iron carbon
Yes, I assume it's impossible to cover the last 4 ticks unless you frame perfect use tea
sleek spear
of course i open my timewalking box and get the exact same trinket after, buying it with 3x puzzling cartel chips
😭
what are the odds of getting the heroic gallywix trinket ><
drifting cloud
maybe like 1:20, im not online to count the loot table
but kezan isnt really a good buy for rogue in general unless you had nothing else to get
iron carbon
https://tenor.com/view/same-different-but-still-gif-18224441
I hate you, officially
iron carbon
but kezan isnt really a good buy for rogue in general unless you had nothing els...
Quite good if chain pulls are well done
Prolly better overall for outlaw
drifting cloud
well this is assa channel and unless youre doing some really high keys with a premade that thing is going to fall off
iron carbon
Okay bozo
brazen ivy
Does anyone know the name of this embelishment (like on the auction house)
royal lantern
Does anyone know the name of this embelishment (like on the auction house)
writhing armor banding
marsh fjord
Does anyone know the name of this embelishment (like on the auction house)
You can check them here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/bis-gear#embellishments
brazen ivy
thanks guys
shy axle
excited to try out bleed spec + 8% buff + ds tier set in m+, at least sounds strong
shell crater
So are we expecting assa to be strong in S3 as it stands?
marsh fjord
So are we expecting assa to be strong in S3 as it stands?
Answering would probaly be very useless because there is still 4 weeks of PTR and anything can change.
i heard some people say that sub/sin are pretty close by esp because the raid has some damage amps
shell crater
Fairs
cedar elm
another season of assa
main bridge
velvet cairn
Fairs
in raid most specs are viable, due to ptr not being locked in and prob lots of bugs or tuning its nothing set in stone. you can most likely play what u want and a meta comes after some weeks
spare kayak
hello back boys
zenith elm
Lol
icy geyser
is the bleed build finally good in ST also, after the 8% buff?
waxen oyster
You dont play bleed in raid
iron carbon
It's true you never do ST in dung 
iron carbon
He was playing Zeross build? Kekw
normal mist
That's why straight up copying others makes no sense
iron carbon
Facts
harsh anchor
I always copy builds. Just push your buttons and it’s gg
iron carbon
But, playing the build you prefer is also not a crime
If it doesn't fuck up the runs
harsh anchor
I play no green no red icon build
ocean quiver
That's why straight up copying others makes no sense
Did you make your own build or did you copy it from wowhead
normal mist
"straight up copying" assumes you have no idea why you are picking the talents / you have no idea what that build is supposed to do
I use bleed build because I like it and I understand it's pros and cons
Meanwhile there are people going to archon and copying "handmade" builds by the top % that only works well in high lvl keys and use them in their weekly +10
"why am I using the TOP build and I can't do DMG???"
Rant over
marsh fjord
Does anyone know after a m+ run you get certain points. and a bit later a points get deducted? earlier today i was at 3049 and now im at 3048 lol
Is blizzard trying to hold me back 
normal mist
That's weird, never saw that happen
iron carbon
It happened to me in the other way
iron carbon
Key timer got nerfed so I won rio
jaunty matrix
you gain points when they nerf dung timers
marsh fjord
jaunty matrix
maybe servers lagged out
and you finished a few seconds after your actual finish
as far as the server is concerned
marsh fjord
unlucky
marsh fjord
yeah no big deal was just wondering
how am i getting invited now with 1 less point
marsh fjord
haha i know 😄
marsh fjord
Quit the game
never.
humble verge
winged sun
Yes, I assume it's impossible to cover the last 4 ticks unless you frame perfect...
Same thing
You can maximize tea earlier if you get 50 stacks early
If not you just wait for the 50 abit
And yes kingsbane does its dmg on 0 like i said every 2.00 seconds
sharp viper
iron carbon
You can maximize tea earlier if you get 50 stacks early
You track the stacks?
winged sun
Yes
iron carbon
And yes kingsbane does its dmg on 0 like i said every 2.00 seconds
Yeah, checked that, your sentence was a bit confusing
winged sun
Idk i yap alot
iron carbon
You did ahaha' did you sleep well?
iron carbon
What wa you use for kb stacks?
winged sun
Cant share my kb WA in specific
Its a private one
Just use anyone on wago
Or do yours
Figure it out yourself if you want to really learn wow at a very high level
Its a very easy WA to make
Instead of always copying ppl’s WAs
earnest remnant
cant wait for blizz to nuke all wa's (i quit when that happens)
winged sun
cant wait for blizz to nuke all wa's (i quit when that happens)
Wow will truly die if they remove WAs
Especially addons
coral ibex
lol
winged sun
they are trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist
which is fairly common on many games
wow has no issues, its nature is that its only good in combat
and no where else
if u dislike wow its not for you
coral ibex
i cant wait for it bc everyone who says theyll quit over it will continue to play
and just doom post
winged sun
removing WAs and addons will only make it worse
winged sun
i cant wait for it bc everyone who says theyll quit over it will continue to pla...
i mean im not even playing myself rn
playing osrs nowadays
royal lantern
wow has no issues, its nature is that its only good in combat
the far far far majority of the playerbase doesnt play WoW for only its combat mate lol
winged sun
respects your efforts alot more and its fun everywhere no content is old
every content matters
winged sun
the far far far majority of the playerbase doesnt play WoW for only its combat m...
?
im not talking about mount farmers
coral ibex
bro thinks his perspective is the only one that exists
winged sun
ppl that login 1 hr a week
and pretend they love wow
real wow fans love the game for its combat
nothing else
everything else is so bad
runic hinge
I'm sure the people who log in and do 10 hours of pet battles a week would disagree with you
earnest remnant
i cant wait for it bc everyone who says theyll quit over it will continue to pla...
honestly depends on the systems they themselves are making to take its place, if its good enough i might keep playing, but looking at the rotational wa thingy they have it aint it (for me)
coral ibex
lots of people play this game in many ways that have literally zero overlap with how you play the game
winged sun
I'm sure the people who log in and do 10 hours of pet battles a week would disag...
ye as if theres a million of them
royal lantern
- they dont "remove wa and addons"
its "we try to add more features from them into the baseline game so you dont need a 3rd party tool for it, and then block a 3rd party tool doing that feature so we can better Design around it"
which IS a good goal
will it be a shitshow in someways? oh yeha, ofc, but they literally want to add addon stuff into the game itself lol
winged sun
ur crazy if u think someone logs in to do 10 hours of pet battles a day
ur just making shit up
red schooner
As long as they let me have my little buff/debuff tracker thing on the screen I'll be chill.
runic hinge
I said a week
winged sun
not really
the best players in osrs do everything in the game
why not us too? in wow?
humble verge
ur crazy if u think someone logs in to do 10 hours of pet battles a day
a former guildie unrionically did this
winged sun
because wow sucks
wow is only good in its combat and im sure 99.9% of all of you agree
and your just arguing to aruge which i totally respect
coral ibex
yea that's why you played like 1500 hours of it this season
runic hinge
their sub costs the same as yours and there's more of them then there is title m+ players
coral ibex
bc it sucks
royal lantern
real wow fans love the game for its combat
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST
literally nobody in this game beyond a handfull of people do mythic raids or m+ beyond +10 keys
the game is alive because of people that do other stuff
you cant be that dense and think they are "not real players", you engage with edge case content they barely Design around, mythic raids and high m+ is the furthest away drom "real wow" as it gets
winged sun
yea that's why you played like 1500 hours of it this season
1500 hours of m+
which is combat
coral ibex
bro this is typical zeross posting
coral ibex
idk why ur surprised
royal lantern
m+ is desinged around +10 keys and raids around heroic, that is the "real game" they make the game for
winged sun
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST
literally nobody in this game beyond a handfull of people ...
wdym alot of ppl do M+ even if its a +2
coral ibex
he let the attention from cooking up one single talent build for m+ go to his head and now he thinks he's a mover and shaker
winged sun
normal, hc raids are popular
winged sun
red schooner
lean plover
people that do +5s or +8s or whatever dont do 10 hours a day of that, they do othr stuff in game
iron carbon
Instead of always copying ppl’s WAs
You're right, I usually modify or merge existing wa on my own but I'll follow your exemple
winged sun
everytime i say something in here i get 10 people replying the opposite of what im saying
just to disagree
and all of you write some random ass things that dont mean shit no cap
earnest remnant
thats the internet for ya
gritty laurel
i mean i agree that basically everything outside of combat is pretty ass, but i recognize that the M+ and raid communities aren't funding the full development of the game with their subs alone
lean plover
no zeross, its just that theres a fuck huge ton of people that couldnt care less about wow combat system, they just farm mounts do lore and quests oet battles etc
coral ibex
"people who disagree with me are just posting random stuff they're not real"
red schooner
I spent like 2 expansions as a solo content only person, you can like wow without engaging with the combat systems.
coral ibex
lean plover
i mean theres people that pvp in wow
winged sun
no zeross, its just that theres a fuck huge ton of people that couldnt care less...
ye i agree dude but that part of wow is way less popular now
'its like
coral ibex
do you even read what you write before you press send
winged sun
a shadow of what it was long ago
coral ibex
i know the answer is no i just had to ask
earnest remnant
oh people still care
winged sun
i used to be a very big open world guy btw
lean plover
lore is worde for sure
royal lantern
honestly depends on the systems they themselves are making to take its place, if...
like i said
the intention is good, but they REALLY have to cook with it, or its gonna be a painfull ~1 full year until they finally fixed the stuff
best case would be if they take it really slow and go with "we made 1 feature, you can try it->update its shortcommings->update->update->now its in a great place and we can block it from 3rd party tools and we go to the next Feature", a really slow and delicate process
lets hope it will be like that and not just "release->block->feature is ignored for 6months and then gets a single half assed update and we call it a day"
winged sun
i guarantee you its not even as half as good now
lean plover
your experience doesnt define other people ones
grim jay
i mean i agree that basically everything outside of combat is pretty ass, but i ...
game would be entirely dead if there were just the subs of >m+10 and heroic+ raid people
earnest remnant
like i said
the intention is good, but they REALLY have to cook with it, or its...
yeah i mean if they dont do it slowly over time but mass drop it on our ass, its gonne be a shitstorm like no other
winged sun
but people still care about it
?
lean plover
thats why they did story (history?) mode for raids
winged sun
i said lore is awful and you agree, did you ever check how wow's popularity went down by a shit ton?
iron carbon
Bc/ wotlk are just Killing the famous guys with a lot of inconsistency
lean plover
yes, i think lore ks shit
red schooner
like i said
the intention is good, but they REALLY have to cook with it, or its...
I'd have had more faith if they didn't release the cooldown manager as it is. Like, I know its still early in the process, things will change, but releasing it as it was is... a bad look.
winged sun
i said lore is awful and you agree, did you ever check how wow's popularity went...
because i dont think u guys are checking that part
ALOT less ppl are playing wow
compared to years ago
lean plover
does that mean that theres no one in wow that cares?
winged sun
but
lean plover
yes
polar rampart
yeah bro, they just write "modern" stuff no one likes :p
winged sun
maybe even bigger
m+ scene is way bigger than years ago
and its not even close
but
the other parts of wow
reduced
sure still the majority is there
i agree on that
but
its alot less than years ago
polar rampart
lore completely died in shadowlands
red schooner
Shadowlands wasn't canon the characters took some bad drugs
You can't convince me otherwise
earnest remnant
ive played wow since cata, and im not ngl. ive never given a shit about lore xD
i just like raiding
winged sun
now i dont, i believe most M+ers are the same but idk if they loved lore too and stuff
polar rampart
we wake up from a bad dream in the expansion 2 after midnight
earnest remnant
im in dire need of wow to release another Sepulcher / tomb diffculty raid again
lean plover
sure still the majority is there
then why say that real wow fans only love wow for the combat?
polar rampart
cuz thats the best thing about it
lean plover
it is
by far
at least for me
doesnt mean there arent s lot of people that cba about it
coral ibex
its just not true, most of my friends that play wow barely get into combat beyond leveling, they just like the class fantasies and exploring zones and collecting mounts and mog
winged sun
then why say that real wow fans only love wow for the combat?
now they do the most
marsh fjord
Shadowlands best expansion after legion
winged sun
and ye combat is the best
btw
wow combat is better than any game in the world too imo
marsh fjord
wow combat is better than any game in the world too imo
100%
lean plover
agreed
winged sun
thats why alot of ppl vouch for wow cuz of it
nowadays im playing osrs, combat is rly good but not as good as wow
but
earnest remnant
personally i like lost arks combat more, it doesent hold a candle to wow's raiding / m+ tho
earnest remnant
but the combat design itself is better to me
marsh fjord
This is why i was kinda bummed about the one button rotation because figuring out a spec is actually a really good feeling.
winged sun
1000 raids
and they're all relevant
they dont become like
old and weak
no
its like as if it was released day 1
royal lantern
This is why i was kinda bummed about the one button rotation because figuring ou...
why does that "bumm you out", you do 0numbers with it lol
winged sun
but u can get more powerful with gear etc
royal lantern
its literally a acessability feature
marsh fjord
why does that "bumm you out", you do 0numbers with it lol
Because i want people to have the same 'good feeling' instead of just having to click one button and not learn.
earnest remnant
not everybody cares about it
red schooner
personally i like lost arks combat more, it doesent hold a candle to wow's raidi...
I still miss Wildstar combat
lean plover
again, lots of people cba about wow combat
earnest remnant
not everyone wnats to sit down for hours to learn a class / spec
marsh fjord
I understand that i'm just saying how i feel about it. you guys don't have to share the same opinion about me. it's fine to have different opinions lol
royal lantern
if they want to be halfway decent about the game and learnig, they will learn cus One Button has shit performance lol
its literally a aid for people that cant/dont want
its such a non issue
earnest remnant
some people just wanna relax and do mount runs, farm mogs / achievements and farm gold and shit
hard river
one button is terrible but the assisted rotation can be pretty good for some specs
royal lantern
one button is terrible but the assisted rotation can be pretty good for some spe...
and assisted is literally just ingame hekili which existed for like a decade
hard river
ye
lean plover
and assisted is literally just ingame hekili which existed for like a decade
it surprised me the amoutn lf people that use hekili
royal lantern
it surprised me the amoutn lf people that use hekili
if you are in a class discord, you allready exist in a high level bubble compared to everyone else
thats why it suprises you
earnest remnant
if you are in a class discord, you allready exist in a high level bubble compare...
now imagine being a mod in one, thats like peak cringe
earnest remnant
i spend more time lurking, making sure people dont act like fckwits
than i do playing wow
its great
tbf shit usually hits the peak idiocy while im sleeping during like prime NA gamer hours in the evening for them
royal lantern
tbf shit usually hits the peak idiocy while im sleeping during like prime NA gam...
you are blessed
runic hinge
tbf shit usually hits the peak idiocy while im sleeping during like prime NA gam...
5 pm est tuesday ptr notes hit while stealthi 
earnest remnant
i usually go bed like 2 hours before they come out
fallow canopy
Its joever i know raccoon sleep schedule, now I can cause some ruckus
earnest remnant
one thing i can gurantee you
is that you will not be able to follow my sleep schedule (my body cant even)
royal lantern
the sleep schedule of "falling asleep after 18hours awake somewhere at 5am" 
earnest remnant
18 hours is rookies numbers
royal lantern
im closer to 30 then 20 raccon man
my old frail body cant do the 28hours things anymore
normal mist
i can't even go to bed after 1am because im so tired
earnest remnant
im closer to 30 then 20 raccon man
so am i
iron carbon
i can't even go to bed after 1am because im so tired
True, 30s hitting hard
normal mist
i wake up at 7 am every day, maybe thats why
iron carbon
Prolly mate
normal mist
this year, the only time i actually gamed all night was when monster hunter wilds released
normal mist
Yeah i think so too
earnest remnant
https://tenor.com/view/racoon-gif-26743156
me when i wake up to pings in RH
earnest remnant
im only 27
fallow canopy
Went to sleep at 3 am and even tho I woke up late my body still feels like it got dry shiv'd
fallow canopy
I think most of mmo players are around 30
No need to call us out 
rocky zodiac
i didnt really follow ptr testing. how are the rogue specs looking in general and against each other?
iron carbon
All shit
rocky zodiac
marvelous
royal lantern
im only 27
same bestie
royal lantern
age is just a number anyway
royal lantern
I shouldve died 2 years ago
you cant do this too us 
marsh fjord
I'm 35 soon
grandpa how you doing
runic hinge
good mostly
humble ginkgo
im only 27
jesus christ
grim jay
you cant do this too us <:angery:433318454502752258>
dw, I wont be gone that fast. even if you can feel like that sometimes
hallow glade
i didnt really follow ptr testing. how are the rogue specs looking in general an...
Sub and assa are mid, outlaw is quite poor. Check the mythic logs as these are from the testing with the most recent tuning
lean plover
im from 1993
im sorry but everyone born last century is, for me, a certified grumpy grandad
marsh fjord
im sorry but everyone born last century is, for me, a certified grumpy grandad
Happy to be one. can give solid advice if needed
lean plover
no grandpa, im not going to a mcdonalds interview with a suit
humble verge
such a 2024 trinket smh
marsh fjord
no grandpa, im not going to a mcdonalds interview with a suit
hahahahahaha
Can someone check this
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tGAh1VeRDzGXRRMCfRxTMw
and check if it right.
It's basically telling me to swap my circlet for a max crafted ring crit/haste ring
spice surge
Yep seems fine
kind forge
club 27 missed me
Youngling
marsh fjord
@spice surge sorry for the ping but does 34% crit seem a lot to you?
kind forge
<@212854714197344256> sorry for the ping but does 34% crit seem a lot to you?
If your robot tells you to use that, then do it 
marsh fjord
yeah it also removes 6% mastery but gains 9% haste.
runic hinge
Robot knows optimal numbers, I wouldnt think too much about them myself
kind forge
Don’t question 🤖
jaunty matrix
always question 🤖
runic hinge
yeah it also removes 6% mastery but gains 9% haste.
lemme put it to you this way
the difference between this
and this
is .3%
marsh fjord
Lose or gain 😄
runic hinge
you can shuffle stats plenty and come to the same outcome
.3 is blue so its a sidegrade
runic hinge
yeah and if the robot says that's gucci then it is
runic hinge
the robot knows the best combo of the current gear you have to get the most dps
That's what it does
marsh fjord
Yeah i know
runic hinge
It's why I dont think about the numbers I just let the robot do the adding for me
waxen oyster
I mean for most people with primarily crafted items you might have a lean to mastery
due to jastor
34% crit sounds like alot without critical chain or pacemaker procs
kind forge
His sim does have electric current
waxen oyster
Yeah his mastery isnt terribly high so checks out
waxen oyster
I accidentally forgot to take off eye on cauldron this week fml
humble verge
royal lantern
yooooo gz man
ocean quiver
4th reclear, did this one on my rogue
my damage is dogshit on gallywix
:(
Idk why tho
royal lantern
was the last guy that dropped the mount in the guild
ocean quiver
There's another week of clear
he traded me by accident and I redeem it
and he ask if I did I said yeah, so someone else gets it next week instead of me
too ez
red schooner
Possibly because at this stage in the season the adds die almost instantly, less chance to do caustic things
ocean quiver
Possibly because at this stage in the season the adds die almost instantly, less...
ah
Yeah I mean I get 1 hero talent full combo point envenom and that's it
red schooner
and look at boss dmg in logs
Thats what I did. Mid in overall damage on the kill, 2nd in boss damage.
ocean quiver
and then we have tons of melee alts for this clear
royal lantern
cus unless you are in a group thatt lets you aoe pad like crazy, its kinda near impossible to get a good one rn lmao
ocean quiver
<@463888269114081281> are you 20 renown?
Yeah
marsh fjord
I also think getting good logs is pretty hard right now. but green sounds low.
ocean quiver
This was my first time playing rogue in gallywix tho so maybe just because it's all fresh, and I had to stop attacking a few times due to having overload of melee
so when mechanics were coming I just played safe and ran out
so didn't really have 100% uptime
I am also canisder soak 1
so sometimes tank doesn't bring boss close enough to attack while in it
but I got the crit mastery helmet from raid
I got a tier token
and the mount
winged sun
ok
i played abit of ptr
sin bad
8% not close to enough 💀
raid numbers fake cuz sin op in ptr in raids no cappi
ruby shoal
What do you think guys will assa be good next season ?
thorn thorn
🔮
iron carbon
What do you think guys will assa be good next season ?
Yes
balmy condor
🔮
thorn thorn
Whispyr
balmy condor
Ponder my orb
humble verge
the crystal ball says
balmy condor
Is fatebound playable
No
balmy condor
Like it’s probably the same as now
Where its like fine in st
But no reason to ever play it
And the places where you would have reason to play it, it sucks
iron carbon
Do you think it would be okay if fatebound was just not nerfing aoe damages?
Or just the hero tree is bad
Cuz lack of def/utility
icy geyser
do any of you happen by any chance to have this issue? while in combat (M+), your target randomly swaps to another target
main bridge
maybe you have action targeting on
icy geyser
I've installed the right click modifier to disable right clicking in combat, but it didn't solve the problem
icy geyser
maybe you have action targeting on
no, only sticky targeting is turned on
main bridge
something pressing your tab key?
icy geyser
something pressing your tab key?
no, I don't use tab at all
iron carbon
Happen when I right click allies I think
icy geyser
from what I've heard, there was a weakaura helping with this, but stopped working in 11.1
it's really annoying, especially when you are a prio garget type of class
main bridge
well it's not a normal behavior
iron carbon
It never happens to me playing the rogue
main bridge
something is doing that
lean plover
do any of you happen by any chance to have this issue? while in combat (M+), you...
yes it happened to me sometimes very annoying
never knew wtf caused it
iron carbon
I would say clicking on allies when moving camera
icy geyser
it's not only on rogue, It happens on my dk and dh also. so what it does, if you right click in combat tolook around, if your mouse is over a target, it selects that target
iron carbon
it's not only on rogue, It happens on my dk and dh also. so what it does, if you...
Exactly
icy geyser
it's by design from the game. I saw a post where a bizzard admin took notice of this, but that was 2-3 months ago...
they should insta disable this..
iron carbon
Would be great
normal mist
but atleast im done
do you have the 3k mount?
iron carbon
funny how the "hardest" key i got the most score in lol
MM signet yoohoo
waxen oyster
did you go to alt run on it
humble verge
wdym
waxen oyster
how did you get magnet
humble verge
oh yeah
i was in 6/8
but had to go on my main for sprocket and bandit
for future boosting xd
waxen oyster
lmao
humble verge
well
it was not guild run
but i was there to not just get vault but also a bit gear
got cape and the trinket
so kinda got fucked xddd
humble verge
yeah u could
waxen oyster
I overthink that spec too much though
clever heron
Dorf
clever heron
Nelf worthless once we get meld potions.
spice surge
It does
worn geyser
the nelf potion is just gonna be a tank thing for 99% of scenarios, its a nice qol for some tanks to get into m+ without having to commit to a race change
theres prolly some cringe skips in MDI thatu u might use it for but otherwise dps no need
balmy condor
Real question is why do we have both mage and rogue with group invis but still need meld skips for shit when blizzard could just remove true sight from mobs and it would have the same affect and not fuck over the meta
humble verge
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
waxen oyster
even without truesight
you got that one guy
who walks on top of the mob
and wonders how he got seen
humble verge
Real question is why do we have both mage and rogue with group invis but still n...
blizart;
balmy condor
and wonders how he got seen
Skill issue my man
spice surge
Real question is why do we have both mage and rogue with group invis but still n...
99% of mages dont know they have mass invis
iron carbon
Truesight to make mob unskippable
balmy condor
99% of mages dont know they have mass invis
Yeah i mean 99% of rogues haven’t hit shroud this expac either outside of first pull top I assume
iron carbon
And player still skips
spice surge
Theyre too busy providing 5 aoe stops per pack in their keys
humble verge
Yeah i mean 99% of rogues haven’t hit shroud this expac either outside of first ...
you dont shroud for your guild? smh
spice surge
While we struggle with providing a single one at 60s cd
iron carbon
Yeah i mean 99% of rogues haven’t hit shroud this expac either outside of first ...
ML first area
balmy condor
you dont shroud for your guild? smh
Shroud is semi-banned in my guild cause you get the mfers that will pull on 7
Also just priest exists
iron carbon
waxen oyster
why didnt you just write
humble verge
Shroud is semi-banned in my guild cause you get the mfers that will pull on 7
im just using it
waxen oyster
boomkins
balmy condor
Mind smooth
humble verge
but like
worn geyser
Real question is why do we have both mage and rogue with group invis but still n...
idk how true it is but ive had the argument explained to me its cause like priest mind soothe is tied to non-true sight so that ability would just be busted if they removed true sight mobs
waxen oyster
we know who it is
balmy condor
idk how true it is but ive had the argument explained to me its cause like pries...
Okay so fix that
spice surge
Mind soothe - 5s cd
VS
Shroud - 6 min cd
worn geyser
i mean i agree
waxen oyster
which melee actually gain uptime from shrouding in
iron carbon
Mind smooth
I don't play with priest 😞
golden loom
which melee actually gain uptime from shrouding in
from what I've heard ret paladin
balmy condor
Like I get a lot would need to change, but it’s legit just blizzard kicking the can down the road again
waxen oyster
bruh ret paladin got a 30yd range
balmy condor
Shroud skips dominated cause nothing could stop it
waxen oyster
perma
balmy condor
Okay so true sight mobs
Now no shroud skip
Okay so now we meld skip everything
Shit well
iron carbon
I agree, it's stupid
balmy condor
Give everyone meld
What’s next
Mobs with bonus aggro range
So you can’t meld skip?
iron carbon
Tbh, just give everyone racials potions
iron carbon
Or delete meld
balmy condor
Yeah
spice surge
If there are mobs that are really tough so people skip them
spice surge
Just double their count
worn geyser
i got u , they just make true sight mobs not work against shroud, then make new omega eagle vision true sight mobs work against it
clever heron
Add shadowmeld to a borrowed power system. /s
spice surge
So ye they might be really rough, but atleast they give massive count if you can take them
Instead of truesight so you need meld skips
Since shroud is stinky
old halo
not a fan of meld, i qeqeqeqeqe to much to stand still when i press meld XD
balmy condor
i got u , they just make true sight mobs not work against shroud, then make new ...
Make the mobs grippable out of stealth so the dk can just push a mob out of the way and you can walk past
waxen oyster
community does what streamers do
clever heron
DIDwarf be better than normal dwarf?
Nah, normal dwarf gets better crits.
waxen oyster
see: raid deathskips
balmy condor
Monkey paw now every dungeon is cinderbrew and you have to fight in a 3 pixel wide hallway
worn geyser
thats evil
lean plover
Monkey paw now every dungeon is cinderbrew and you have to fight in a 3 pixel wi...
only if u get testicular torsion
humble verge
free gold for doing 8/8 nerub lmao
balmy condor
”fixing weakauras”
I mean they’re trying but lowkey if they private aura all the fractilus stuff it’s gonna be aids
waxen oyster
who tf is buying nerub
iron carbon
who tf is buying nerub
Mount
iron carbon
Achiev then?
worn geyser
i just dont think they have a way of balancing the power of rogue skipping mobs and that becoming the meta route and rogue becoming mandatory in groups vs shroud being useless , youd have to get it so that the shroud skip is only 5% better than the normal route but also cant be melded
thorn thorn
Yeah i mean 99% of rogues haven’t hit shroud this expac either outside of first ...
True I am part of the 99% (I have not played rogue this xpac)
red schooner
At least on sub I can hit shroud and go fast, so thats.... something
iron carbon
The way to balance rogue skip is mobs %
worn geyser
its nicely useful atm for ultra top keys but i dont think that kinda stuff is even intentionally designed that way by blizz(eg: rookery shroud skip before 2nd boss)
worn geyser
u can shroud thru this whole hall way in 1 shroud
the mob in the 2nd pack has true site but if u hug the wall u dont aggro it
iron carbon
Yeah, and where do you do % ?
worn geyser
let me grab the route sec
iron carbon
Sure ty
humble verge
anywhere else
worn geyser
i believe this was how that route looks , i didnt have it saved so had to recreate rq , on 14 you pull at end of fight for funnel as well
ignore first section cause i forgot optimal way to pull that tho, but all of the mobs in first boss room basically
worn geyser
no its free as fuck
crushers do nothing and 1 caster
little guys just get exploded for free count
as long as they dont buff the big monstrosities its big chillin
iron carbon
Yeah, get 4 charges of crusher
worn geyser
it doesnt do that much damage tbh, and you can kinda targeted cc if someone is getting tripled or whatever
worn geyser
but this route only works in statics so it hardly ever gets used
since pugs its too risky to ujse with since u gotta know how to walk past the true sight mobs in hallway and next to pull 14
iron carbon
since pugs its too risky to ujse with since u gotta know how to walk past the tr...
Hugging right isn't?
worn geyser
both of them you hug the wall to the left as tight as possible
iron carbon
I'm used to "parasol" skip through
worn geyser
if u dont hug super tight then gg
iron carbon
Prolly propose my tank to try
worn geyser
but also you kinda have to do it fast in the hallway cause u basically use the entire duration of shroud to do that skip
thorn thorn
Monkey paw now every dungeon is cinderbrew and you have to fight in a 3 pixel wi...
Why would you wish this upon us
devout hazel
yo guys where i can check bis rogue gear
humble verge
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
humble verge
holy shit
devout hazel
and then getting 681
humble verge
this is bright
red schooner
Sim it
main bridge
you don't need it
thorn thorn
main bridge
you can fix that by changing the snipping tool changes in Windows
this option at the bottom
balmy condor
im between upgrading that, o crafting 675
at this point in the patch, upgrading hero track gear is basically pointless
like there is no world where a crafted item loses to a hero track item
iron carbon
I'm pretty sure you can have whole stuff crafted
iron carbon
Whispyr told everything
balmy condor
upgrading hero track is just a waste of crests
cursive root
whispyr fix sin rogue energy regen being shite please
balmy condor
oh he doesn't know
cursive root
AoE good, ST shite
iron carbon
If you say so
balmy condor
yeah so apparently ou don't know who I am, but that's okay, so I'm whispyr, I write the wowhead and method guides etc etc
and I'm kinda the foremost person advocating that assa energy should stay slow
so asking me to make it fast
is uh
a bit delusional
cursive root
make it better
iron carbon
Give Ass outlaw regeneration and it become broken as fuck ahaha
balmy condor
no, it wouldn't become broken as fuck
cursive root
fast or slow daddy idc, make it better
balmy condor
the spec would simply collapse
cursive root
make assassination great again
balmy condor
it is?
normal mist
make assassination great again
when was it great
cursive root
when was it great
legion when we prayed to the poison bomb gods
where is the old meme
iron carbon
That's why I would say broken
balmy condor
yeah but that's not broken, the damage you get from 100% envenom uptime is piss
iron carbon
Yes but envenom itself
balmy condor
would get nerfed obviously
iron carbon
Ofc
thorn thorn
We no longer become a dot spec
We just become like shadow and dots are just an avenue of mastery or resources
balmy condor
We just become like shadow and dots are just an avenue of mastery or resources
to be fair we're kinda already there
thorn thorn
Most dot specs already are
cunning basin
I miss the simple old days when venomous wounds was like 60% of your DPS(I do not miss that)
thorn thorn
I miss the pre-spatter days
cursive root
i miss legion DFA big numbers
main bridge
Dragons For Azeroth
fallow canopy
I miss the pre-spatter days
thorn thorn
<:xla:1283127722180087808>
iron carbon
But I like the current state of sin
thorn thorn
@rotund oak
@humble verge
@normal mist
humble verge
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normal mist
thorn thorn
Spec is fine im just a spatter hater
cunning basin
I don't even belong in this channel, I just came to meme and read the memes 
thorn thorn
Same
iron carbon
And I'm a big fan of big Envenom spreading damages
cursive root
But I love the design
auto tea 📉
balmy condor
spatter would be okay if it were like half as strong
gritty laurel
auto tea is fine
balmy condor
but really at that point, spatter shouldn't exist
balmy condor
bitching about auto tea in july is crazy
cunning basin
Crazy that spatter is on a choice node with IB lmao. Definitely a decision of all time
gritty laurel
i really thought this nickname would die off quick but it's been evergreen so far
fallow canopy
bitching about auto tea in july is crazy
shell crater
I seem to be dealing with some downtime due to low energy, is this just a thing that happens or am I fucking something up?
balmy condor
that's the spec, yes
zealous moth
heya ass frens
cursive root
I seem to be dealing with some downtime due to low energy, is this just a thing ...
careful
zealous moth
i just dropped elvui an started getting some addons to overhaul the ui
iron carbon
auto tea 📉
Okay, I love the design but not auto tea
shell crater
that's the spec, yes
Gotcha, any particular way to deal with this? Do I just spam until I get energy or do I need to pool?
zealous moth
i got bartender for actionbars and omnicc to show cds, thing is, elvui had a nice features that showed an ability duration of the current target on the action bar
cursive root
id prefer whispyr tea tbh
zealous moth
(ex rupture duration on my current target)
fallow canopy
Gotcha, any particular way to deal with this? Do I just spam until I get energy ...
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
iron carbon
I seem to be dealing with some downtime due to low energy, is this just a thing ...
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
gritty laurel
the double tap
zealous moth
can't seem to find a way to do this again, does anyone have any recommendations or addons that can do this?
thorn thorn
Are we back on auto tea again in 2025
Where is the whispyr writeup about how insignificant it is
red schooner
Are we back on auto tea again in 2025
wdym back, we never left
iron carbon
bitching about auto tea in july is crazy
I didn't change my mind. Should be a choice node
gritty laurel
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
gritty laurel
hmm, that's not quite what i wanted
normal mist
It is insignificant
balmy condor
can't seem to find a way to do this again, does anyone have any recommendations ...
I didn't know that was even a thing you could do in the first place to be honest
normal mist
a waste of brain power
iron carbon
I do in ST and bleeds build
balmy condor
Where is the whispyr writeup about how insignificant it is
I'm not even getting baited wasting my time trying to explain it
thorn thorn
I'm not even getting baited wasting my time trying to explain it
Is there a writeup from the past
cursive root
i never press tea the game does it for me
gritty laurel
if you macro it to shiv you do that by default
balmy condor
Is there a writeup from the past
probably
thorn thorn
Honestly they should just delete tea and make it a thing shiv does
balmy condor
"macro and forget" has been repeated so many times at this point anyone wanting to do something different is just on their own
live your life
I can't drown a horse
iron carbon
if you macro it to shiv you do that by default
Not when you have to delay kb
fallow canopy
The horror
iron carbon
But if I want to press kb myself
red schooner
I tried the macro, I then muscle memory hit the tea keybind
balmy condor
Not when you have to delay kb
okay nevermind I'm getting baited, what the actual fuck are you talking about
red schooner
This is on me for not taking it off the bar
fallow canopy
normal mist
holy water
iron carbon
Didn't say it was for tea
normal mist
we need holy water
iron carbon
Damn
cursive root
how do you delay tea isn't it auto?
waxen oyster
legion when we prayed to the poison bomb gods
legion sin was even slower
balmy condor
what are you delaying KB for?
fallow canopy
I get what you mean but still its like it prob its not a big deal
iron carbon
Nothing to press kb on
cursive root
legion sin was even slower
ya it was, im coping
waxen oyster
fuck legion sin lmao
balmy condor
we were talking about tea, you replied to a tea thing and said not when you have to delay kb
gritty laurel
i went looking for a whispyr writeup on auto tea and found these absolute gems
balmy condor
okay, so you have nothing to kb
waxen oyster
tea is literally fine rn
iron carbon
Then I'm there, with 30 sec on DM, so I don't KB, but I can shiv
waxen oyster
people could just take their hands off keyboard
thorn thorn
i went looking for a whispyr writeup on auto tea and found these absolute gems
this works thanks king
iron carbon
And if I shiv + tea, J won't have tea anymore for kb
balmy condor
okay
iron carbon
That's it
balmy condor
and the issue with that is?
cursive root
is it ok to not be ok with blizzard making me drink tea automatically, what if im not thirsty
iron carbon
Not a big deal cuz my dps is already fucked
fallow canopy
The dry KB that does close to 0 will do even closer to 0
balmy condor
????????
haughty flicker
i think it is silly tea is so incredibly insignificant we dont play around it at all
but thats not an auto tea issue
balmy condor
what kind of rabbit hole is this
haughty flicker
so idk kind of weird argument
balmy condor
where are we going
iron carbon
But was speaking Zeross telling he try to have a tea for last 6 kb sec
normal mist
somewhere dark
fallow canopy
where are we going
Bring a flashlight
red schooner
somewhere dark
darker