#assassination

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royal lantern
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^

quiet oar
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i woudl argue

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Mug'zee is more hell for melees

golden loom
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I mean thats my point, as melee there is nothing

quiet oar
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and Gally is for Ranged and Melees chillin

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I can see that argument on Lockenstock

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and Bandit

royal lantern
strange python
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The argument of parses not mattering has some kind of limitation if ur grey and green parsing on average ur doing something wrong

quiet oar
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But Bandit as Melee isnt as easy as some want it to portray

strange python
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To me at least

quiet oar
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Those damn Flames

strange python
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Each to their own

quiet oar
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just coming out of the boss

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or wall

open jolt
quiet oar
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cant see shit in melee

golden loom
open jolt
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If you are not at least a blue you are VERY wrong

quiet oar
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But Ranges still have more to do there

open jolt
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So if you are below that parses need to be focused on

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See what you did wrong

quiet oar
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If you parse Grey

golden loom
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idk its more that in my mind this tier the only job you have as melee is to maximize dam

quiet oar
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use 1 Button Rotation

open jolt
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Improve, and then do better

quiet oar
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except Lockenstock and Bandit

strange python
golden loom
open jolt
# quiet oar If you parse Grey

I have seen people in my old classic guild that once we failed on heroic we went to normal and they were still grey parsing while I had a 90 while playing bored

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....

golden loom
quiet oar
open jolt
quiet oar
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thats not a range only thing

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and are Monks a joke to you on mugzee?

golden loom
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yeah I guess but I would assume most people tend towards ranged for that

quiet oar
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Idk

open jolt
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It also didn't help that they legit were doing fights like halfus wrong. Not pixel stacking drakes so I could cleave as combat and get that sweet sweet 150k dps

quiet oar
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I think thats mostly how you look at it

golden loom
quiet oar
golden loom
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yeah ofc, I guess its just my anecdotal perspective

royal lantern
quiet oar
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Only Bosses the argument is valid is Lockenstock and Bandit

golden loom
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thats also the 2 bosses we spent the most time on so maybe thats just fried into my brain

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cause especially sprocket was 120+ pulls of waiting for ranged to figure it out

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cause melee has it so fkin easy there

royal lantern
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holding CDs for years

golden loom
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(also I do not mind doing assignments, I played fkin expose armor rogue before retail kekdog , but from my pov atm theres not much to do)

strange python
royal lantern
open jolt
golden loom
open jolt
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And until you are mid to high end for a guild they matter a lot for guild climbing

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To get into a better guild

royal lantern
quiet oar
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I MAY HAVE TO DO IT ON MOP

open jolt
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They can make rogue #2 be expose bitch

golden loom
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well its also probably a bit different doing it in MoP

quiet oar
strange python
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Enlighten me what is expose armor rogue

quiet oar
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there aint another rogue

open jolt
golden loom
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cause u have other stuff to press aswell

open jolt
royal lantern
quiet oar
open jolt
quiet oar
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It was basically a raidbuff

golden loom
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and in classic you dont have the energy income to do much other than applying that debuff over and over every 30 seconds

royal lantern
open jolt
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Once you are up there it matters far less

strange python
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So you were playing a raidbuff all fight basically

open jolt
royal lantern
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yep

strange python
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Holy fuck that sounds miserable

quiet oar
royal lantern
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its classic/old wow

golden loom
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cause you have to do a 5 combo point expose for it to work

quiet oar
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or Hunter pet?

royal lantern
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ofc its misserable

strange python
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Yo that’s the first iteration of aug

open jolt
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You are the raids bitch

golden loom
open jolt
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It is the same as how in SoD you had 2 ferals

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One for dps

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One was a LotP bitch

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(Before we hit 60)

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In like P3 when the cap was 50 and we were doing Sunken Temple

strange python
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The more I learn about older iterations of wow the less I understand why people like it, but you probably had to be there to understand why

royal lantern
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nah

open jolt
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Well SoD is recent

royal lantern
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expose armor sucked

open jolt
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That is one of the seasonals

royal lantern
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there is a reason nobody wanted to do it lol

golden loom
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the only good thing about expose armor is that its a 100% guaranteed raid spot OMEGAKEKW

open jolt
golden loom
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thats also why I did it cause I wanted to experience the raids

strange python
open jolt
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Was NOT dealing with getting into that raid

golden loom
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35 hours of cata classic (now mop prepatch) this week so far garf

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strange python
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Nah I mean I started playing wow very late, any iteration of classic is just not for me

open jolt
strange python
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I can’t stand leveling forever, stuff like that

golden loom
open jolt
strange python
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Altho I really wanna play mop feral

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So it’s very tempting

open jolt
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You will have to heal weave though

golden loom
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theres something super satisfying with this version of arms warrior, stuff just feels amazing to press

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makes me wanna try arms warrior on retail aswell, only played fury

strange python
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Well i quit feral for rogue in tww because they went back to feral being low apm so im not sure if I would actually enjoy playing it

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I just heard its good

open jolt
strange python
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But the people telling me it’s good like that they changed feral back to slow

open jolt
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You have 4 builders

strange python
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So it’s oof

open jolt
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But ig it is low apm compared to classic

strange python
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Having 4 builders doesn’t help when you don’t have the energy for it

open jolt
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I prefer shred spam feral from classic

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Shred spam berserk is BIS

strange python
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DF Feral was peak gameplay to me

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I loved every aspect

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Besides when you didn’t play bloodtalons that was a bit boring

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But s3 df feral was peak

quiet oar
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50% EP Bonus, + 20% from events

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and Heirlooms

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FAST LEVELING

open jolt
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ICC feral was absolutely disgusting

golden loom
strange python
open jolt
golden loom
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sheesh, got rank 3 cauldron even though this is how the fight ended OMEGAKEKW

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royal lantern
# strange python Nah I mean I started playing wow very late, any iteration of classic is just not...

playing since TBC (on the same Rogue because im mentally ill) and like, i saw all those things people HATED for good reason, and then 10years later go full blind nostalgia and tell you how it was the best thing ever

reforging was a bullshit system that was a bandaid to stat problems, people where happy when it got removed and the stat problem got resolved, and years later its suddebly "omg reforging was so good because i forgot that the item lsot 40% total stats!!!"

being a buff/debuff bitch sucked because you had nearly 0 gameplay, nobody wanted to do it because it was boring, made solo content a hell because you skilled and geared for buffs/debuffs, and then years later people start yelling OMG BUT IT WAS SO MUCH CLASS FANTASY TO PRESS NOTHING BUT EXPOSE ARMOR AS ROGUE OR BEING A MANA BATTERY AS PRIEST!!!!!!

literally everytime people say BRING BACK COMBAT!!!! when combat was literally just sinester strike->eviscerate + red buff lol, 0 theme or depth behind it at all

i can go on for days

open jolt
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Just didn’t get to raid outside of lfr because people are snobby about raider.io

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Couldn't get into a normal raid

strange python
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Ah well ye

open jolt
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Couldn't get into raiding

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So I dropped it

strange python
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Feral banged when you got ashes trinket and 4set

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Before that it was kinda eh

open jolt
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I don't like current feral

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Or df feral

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i don't like the brutal slash playstyle

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I prefer shred spamming

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If they removed brutal slash I would drop rogue for feral

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In a heartbeat

strange python
royal lantern
strange python
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OGs kinda won with the rework

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And all the new schoolers hate it

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Fun fact tho

open jolt
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I have played every iteration of feral

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And have been a cat

strange python
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Loads of people that wanted this so bad aren’t currently playing

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I guess that playstyle ain’t so good in modern wow huh

royal lantern
strange python
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It is

open jolt
strange python
open jolt
strange python
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Going from feral to sin was a no brainer

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And now I can play 2 specs and am not limited to one playstyle

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Rogue is just superior it is what it is

royal lantern
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tbf, my opinion on energy rn is

its sooooo half assed

"energy matters and you play around it" is a good thing and should exists

but at the same time blizz makes the optimal gameplay just spamming stuff

so like, can they decide what they want lol

open jolt
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But I love feral when it has savage roar(essentially slice n dice) and then the main builder is shred

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I don't like brutal, I don't mind keeping thrash up but it is meh

strange python
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Bro I’ll be honest if you like savage roar and slice n dice

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I don’t think you’ll be happy

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With any iteration

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Ever

red schooner
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I'm happy I don't have to hit slice it's a stupid button

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Fuck slice

open jolt
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Im happy with every iteration of feral before dragonflight

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Wym

royal lantern
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either make energy matter, or make energy endless like all other resources in the game, not this weird "you have talents that drain energy but they all kinda dont matter and you spam anyway"

strange python
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So you liked SL feral or what

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Something ain’t right

open jolt
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I didn't mind it

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Still didn’t like brutal slash

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Because that was when it started

strange python
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I don’t get what the brutal slash hate is

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Why do you like shred

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But don’t like brutal slash

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It makes no sense

open jolt
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Because shred spam goes brrrrrr

strange python
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?

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In df

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In raid

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You literally

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In berzerk

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Went

open jolt
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In tww your #1 prio spell is brutal

strange python
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Shred bite shred bite shred bite

open jolt
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Shred is lowest prio

strange python
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Not in s2

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Shred bite in st

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Perma

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In berzerk

open jolt
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No, only in berserk do you shred bite

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In your basic st roto shred is lowest prio

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Actually 2nd lowest

strange python
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That’s the only time you do damage, you played incarn back then which lasted 30 seconds

open jolt
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Bite is the lowest

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Never bite unless it is free

strange python
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You had a lot of shred bite

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Bite is the lowest???

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That’s your spender bro

open jolt
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No

strange python
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If you didn’t bite between cds in df s2 you literally didn’t play feral

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You played what you think is feral

open jolt
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Bite is only used (the non free form) if you have a perfect window that won't fuck up your rip or destroy your energy pool

strange python
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Wdym you didn’t spend between cds

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XD

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Energy in df s2????

open jolt
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Im not talking about df

strange python
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Are you sure you played df

open jolt
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Im talking about the current patch

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Right now

strange python
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You never mentioned swapping topic from df to tww

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My bad xd

open jolt
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I did tho

strange python
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Because I said df

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I hate tww feral

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Hence I’m a rogue main now

open jolt
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I swapped to add context

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I don't like brutal because it is a lame stacking ability that feels boring to use

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Also older iterations of feral like way back didn't even bite in berserk

strange python
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Idk brutal slash was fine in df it’s just a different shred

open jolt
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It was a dps loss

strange python
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Sure I’m not talking about older iterations tho

open jolt
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It was berserk and shred only

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Which I love

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High apm feral

strange python
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I am sure you didn’t have higher apm with pressing shred only in berzerk than any df iteration

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That’s just nostalgia hitting

open jolt
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I mean I have just played those iterations though

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And actually highest apm is SoD believe it or not

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Shred shred powershift shred shred

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That was your roto

strange python
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Idk you do you, I don’t personally think pressing only shred is fun

open jolt
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And if you were not running out of mana mid fight you were doing it wrong

strange python
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I don’t see anything that’s fun about pressing one singular button on repeat

open jolt
strange python
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Huh

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No

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Ur saying sin is only pressing mutilate in cds

open jolt
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One button while managing rupture and then envenom uptime

strange python
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It’s building and spending yes

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Your fantasy is only building

open jolt
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Yeah that is what feral is

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Lol

strange python
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Bro

open jolt
strange python
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You said you liked feral the most

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When you only pressed shred in cds

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XD

open jolt
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The versions of feral that I am talking about still manage rake and rip

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Lmfao

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While spamming shred

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Managing rake and rip is default for feral

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So it is not in your "rotation"

strange python
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I do think you are underestimating what sin is doing in cds vs shred spam feral a bit

open jolt
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So yeah my "one button dream" feral still manages rake and rip

strange python
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But this conversation is kinda pointless

open jolt
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And savage roar

strange python
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Everyone likes what they like

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And that’s good

open jolt
strange python
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Otherwise game boring

open jolt
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Played sin

strange python
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We are not in cata man

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Df is retail

open jolt
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Idk why are are saying df

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Im talking about the core of rogue and feral

strange python
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Because that’s what I’m talking about 😭

grim jay
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Why are you guys even arguing about the design of two specs that may or may not have something in common

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Sin is in its prime and feral at the end of the day is not only a different spec, even a different class

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Just play what you enjoy and kiss eachother

balmy condor
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Yes yes, kiss yourselves like davyn said

keen spruce
hardy echo
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since the talk is about kissing each other, can we keep the gay swords server icon? pauseChamp

final star
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let outlaw have a tier guys!!

solar wyvern
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What if you and I kissed under the Patch 11.2 July 3rd PTR??

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Haha jk

final star
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who's with me

solar wyvern
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.... unless?

final star
grim jay
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But... Outlaw...

royal lantern
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make outlaw a real spec first

midnight mist
royal lantern
zenith elm
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Outlaw is ADHD is given a spec

grim jay
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#reworkoutlawtoduelist

normal kindle
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#reworkROGUE

quiet oar
zenith elm
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WE ARE DOOMED

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sorry, needed to say this

stable apex
quiet oar
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It will never be a prog spec

stable apex
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ofc not

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unless they change damage profile

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but who cares

quiet oar
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Not only dmg Prfile

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The Uptime dependence is the Problem

zenith elm
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what is best prog spec? ass or sub?

stable apex
quiet oar
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Depends on the tier

stable apex
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but current tuning made sin way better

quiet oar
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It was Sub a long time, since rework its sin

stable apex
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but sub can still shine on gally for example iirc

primal jolt
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ah damn i missed out on garf sit

zenith elm
quiet oar
red schooner
royal lantern
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Stockholm themself into thinking its fun

stable apex
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it is, its the only reason i play wow, if they would change outlaw too much i would prob stop playing 🤷‍♂️

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legit fall asleep playing anything else

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sin is fine, but waiting for energy is making me like law more

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and sub idk, that shie is ass, pressing backstab inside dance for danse? bro what, having to bind backstab and shadowstrike seperately is so stupid imo

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or pressing backstab for 30 secs between cooldowns hitting for 300 dam 😴

royal lantern
stable apex
subtle tundra
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pooplaw

stable apex
subtle tundra
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im a sin player

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nvm im not a player at all

stable apex
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whatever makes you happy 🤗

subtle tundra
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not playing does make me happy

primal jolt
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why are we talking about THAT spec in the sin discord

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icky

normal mist
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Real

hollow sphinx
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Question can you shadow step the gaol cages on mugze?

red schooner
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Apparently you can but the timing is ridiculously tight so, it ain't worth it

hollow sphinx
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Okey thanks for the info 🙂

zenith elm
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Hey @subtle tundra how are you? 😄

normal mist
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He's good

subtle tundra
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I WANT HOME I DONT WANT TO BE EMPLOYED ANYMORE GIVE ME INFINITE MONEY

normal mist
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He's gonna complain

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He complained

subtle tundra
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im just being reasonable

normal mist
primal jolt
zenith elm
royal lantern
quiet oar
zenith elm
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thats why we love him

deep gyro
subtle tundra
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who do we love

zenith elm
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you

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and everyone else

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cause we are lov

primal jolt
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no we dont love everyone

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wtf do you mean by that

zenith elm
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i do

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we are all frends

quiet oar
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and we love you belga

zenith elm
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who love the same class/spec

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Thanks Tiramil

primal jolt
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im not friends with those

zenith elm
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Its just we like slow and they like SPEEEEED

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but they are kind and cool 😄

primal jolt
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blocked

zenith elm
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😦

quiet oar
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Perona kicking Friends out, when they have Problems

primal jolt
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blocked

zenith elm
primal jolt
red schooner
primal jolt
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ofc

red schooner
primal jolt
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big friends sub rogues

zenith elm
primal jolt
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not those sword using freaks

red schooner
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We give you parry protection

primal jolt
zenith elm
spice surge
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Sub still has to be behind the boss for backstab to apply find weakness garf_sit

quiet oar
red schooner
zenith elm
quiet oar
spice surge
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Those bosses often count as from the back either way

quiet oar
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wasnt that a bug

spice surge
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Like gallywix does

red schooner
zenith elm
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ooooh ok ok

quiet oar
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Eleem do you know

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if Parry stuff got fixed

spice surge
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I dont think its been fixed no

red schooner
quiet oar
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So its technically still a Raidbuff for sub and outlaw

red schooner
quiet oar
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ofcourse

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i dont trust you

zenith elm
red schooner
zenith elm
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i always shyv the adds

quiet oar
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You can

zenith elm
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cause its easy

quiet oar
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and you will

zenith elm
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to dmg and de enrage

quiet oar
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You just cleave from Boss

zenith elm
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yes

quiet oar
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you aint switchting on adds

red schooner
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Raid leader says to do a thing I do the thing even if it hurts my soul uglyassdog

red schooner
zenith elm
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no but i can shyv on them since i have arterial precision

quiet oar
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huh

zenith elm
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anyone know the exact range of arterial precision?

quiet oar
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I didnt have arterial

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Just ST with spatter build

red schooner
zenith elm
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Ooooh

spice surge
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Very large range

zenith elm
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so yeah not that easy to know

red schooner
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So it shivs a mob 8 yards away, it then hits another mob within 8 yards of that mob. So like, you could do a 50+ yard shiv

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That's my understanding of it

zenith elm
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but

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on gally

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when is it 8 yards ?

red schooner
zenith elm
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starting from when i cant hit him in melee?

spice surge
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Idk i think its longer than 8 yards too

quiet oar
red schooner
spice surge
red schooner
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I like arterial

quiet oar
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Adds die way too fast

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at my guild

zenith elm
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arterial is very good

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i love it

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helps with bleeds and Apply shiv to small adds for spatter dmg

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quick question, why does raidbots like haste so much compared to versatility ?

nova kelp
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coz it's good?

zenith elm
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yeah but i feel like crits is even better ? and it shows otherwise

subtle tundra
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???????

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you feel?

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compared to you know, actual numbers?

red schooner
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We trust in the robot

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Robot says it's good, I follow the robot

primal jolt
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if raidbots told you to jump a building

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would you do it

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(no it does not increase dps)

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i see the comments

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incoming

red schooner
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Ye probably it means I don't need to stay at work

visual sun
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it told me to eat poison, combined with echoing void

primal jolt
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that's a dps increase

red schooner
primal jolt
royal lantern
primal jolt
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i mean if its a dps increase

grim jay
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Maybe it really is time

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(Should be the default result of stat weight sims)

zenith elm
grim jay
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We dont feelcraft here

quiet oar
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So you hate me

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i thought you loved me

nova kelp
zenith elm
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Hey ! true

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but still

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i like feelcraft sometimes

grim jay
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Now its joever

grim jay
quiet oar
nova kelp
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if you REALLY wana see a conversation, hit whispyr with a forbidden ping and ask him about stat scaling through gear sets, using 1 point in vicious venoms coz spreadsheet, and say sin is more confusing than sub

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you'll light the world on fire

zenith elm
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Ooooh

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that would be amazing

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i wanna see a whyspir full blownout bc someone unironically said we are doomed bc of spreadsheet

grim jay
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Already happened

zenith elm
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yeah but it was a small one

red schooner
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I don't wanna see a whispyr blowout, dude needs to have some chill time

nova kelp
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you gota hit like all the markers of trollhood in one go for true effect

zenith elm
grim jay
zenith elm
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now he need hate and despair

grim jay
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And one wasnt small

zenith elm
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really?

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damn

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i missed that

nova kelp
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for legal reasons, I need you to realise, I'm most definitely not suggesting ACTUALLY doing this

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mental health is important

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take care of your own and others

zenith elm
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i'm waiting for the but

quiet oar
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the funniest whisp

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is drunk whisp

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Drunkspyr

zenith elm
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never talked to him drunk

quiet oar
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You wake up as European and see Drunkspyr typing

zenith elm
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i shall look at the discord more in the morning

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so that i can have fun

nova kelp
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drunkspyr is a g

zenith elm
grim jay
grim jay
royal lantern
grim jay
zenith elm
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i want a whispyr stream rn

royal lantern
# grim jay

you HAVE to ping me when he streams with alcohol

quiet oar
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!whispyr

grim jay
zenith elm
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me too pls

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i need drunk whispyr

tall dust
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hi guys i'm new in to the game since 1 week i'm lookin for a good plater assasination
if anyone can share theirs with me, I thank you in advance.

spice surge
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!plater

prisma monolithBOT
tall dust
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thanks you @spice surge

zenith elm
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Eleem is the best

solemn echo
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Solid song

tall dust
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when i copy past the profil of Whispy'r plater they write me this in game :

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it' doesnt work if someone can help me 😦

spice surge
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Well youre in the scripts tab

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Instead of the profile tab

tall dust
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my bad first time using plater

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thx

normal kite
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
static glacier
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any way to edit sim to sim infinite energy?

solemn echo
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Would be funny to see tho

tall dust
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hi excuse me again, what add-on that allows you to see scrolled spells ?

sharp viper
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what is a scrolled spell?

tall dust
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hmm the rotation

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during the cycle

main bridge
#

Details has a plugin for it

sharp viper
#

there are rotation helper like hekili, hero rotation or even the blizzard thing which lights up the spell(s) on your action bar

tall dust
#

something like this

main bridge
#

ya it's probably details like the thing i just posted

tall dust
#

oh thx

winged sun
# tall dust

susgebusiness why are u pressing fth and an ambush right after is that the cooked bleed build

main bridge
#

that's shindigs

rotund oak
#

im cancelling work schedule

#

no shot in the universe im losing this

tall dust
rotund oak
winged sun
#

I refuse to encourage anyone to use that dipshit addon

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If you’re using it you’re automatically -100 iq

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Then you take a selfie and this shows up on ur phone right after Dentge

sharp viper
rotund oak
sharp viper
#

People are free to use what they want. While I don't think it's actually good to use such an addon, I wouldn't discourage people from using it

#

not my responsibility

main bridge
#

you probably should if your goal is to help people here

mighty vine
#

Eh, its good for learning a new class or spec. Gotta customize the addon to make it more usable though

main bridge
#

that's the thing. it's not good for learning

rotund oak
#

im very democratic and not oppressing with my views but no,was it in my hand ild delete all rotational helpers from reality

main bridge
#

one button rotation doesn't even tell you what button you are pressing

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the only thing it's good for is getting carpal tunnel

golden loom
#

yeah you learn to click images that pop up, not why or when you should press them

mighty vine
#

I mean, I used it to learn this spec originally now I parse in high 90s without it. To each their own

main bridge
#

in LFR

mighty vine
#

Yep

main bridge
#

that's not high 90s

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88 for ilvl

rotund oak
#

💀

golden loom
#

well ilvl parses are fake

heady drum
#

lumberjacks in chat focusing on the colour of the number

main bridge
#

even if we are going by the other parse it's a 92 which is still not high 90s

rotund oak
#

each parse is an individual meme these days

hallow glade
#

Damn you got dragged in your ilvl parse ngl

#

It’s 4 percentiles less

sharp viper
#

I only want people to have good transmogs

golden loom
winged sun
#

Parses are fake, when i got a 99 on outlaw in DF with my offhand unequipped i proved that shit means nothing, just dont press random shit and you’ll do good dmg

mighty vine
#

Using a rotational helper isnt a horrible thing as long as the person using it is trying to actively learn the class. Being a dickhead about using an addon is cringe af

rotund oak
heady drum
#

parses are fake
proceeds to brag a bit about parsing
yeah I'm a fucking baller

winged sun
#

And yes u can parse 100s with hekili but good luck doing that because im sure your not nearly as good enough if ur using it

sharp viper
#

parse 100 with OBR pepeLchatting

main bridge
#

i'm sure there are people that can parse high playing with their feet but it doesn't make it an effective way of learning or a good idea

winged sun
#

My guy thinks using a robot is alright, its good if u want to suck balls at the game

golden loom
#

but yeah I do agree, people can play however they want idk doesnt bother me

waxen oyster
#

if you want to fr learn

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setting up a wa pack would help more

winged sun
waxen oyster
#

some people like progress bar WAs for their buffs

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but idk i need icons

winged sun
#

99.99% of all players suck anyway, then some squared headed guy shows up and wants to learn and starts to say no to everything

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Like why are u even asking to get better in the first place

waxen oyster
#

or gear

golden loom
#

I am parsing in this lvl 77 mop classic dungeon tho

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winged sun
#

Almost atleast

solemn echo
#

Wasn't there some mage player recently who refused to look at a guide before hiring a coach?

winged sun
#

Anyone who asks for stats needs to sniff some wowhead info into his brain

fallow canopy
waxen oyster
#

my favorite has to be the people who say

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"i read the guide" to the wowhead writer

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and dont realize its the same person

solemn echo
#

LMAO

hidden bay
#

Logs don’t matter guys garf_sit everyone knows that. Just kill the boss and play mechanics garf_sit

solemn echo
#

Yeah

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Play boss kill mechanics

fallow canopy
golden loom
waxen oyster
#

its just funnier when they say it

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to the guidewriter

rotund oak
golden loom
#

gehenas on this char cause its horde

rotund oak
#

dont think ive got anything on gehenas 😦

#

got on Firemaw and Pyrewood

golden loom
#

have a lvl 56 rogue on firemaw kekdog but wanted to play warrior

normal mist
golden loom
#

and some irl friends might want to 10man raid and they were horde so

rotund oak
waxen oyster
#

the biggest issue is uhh

rotund oak
#

rogue and druid on pyrewood

waxen oyster
#

most of my mop friends

winged sun
waxen oyster
#

became adults

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and dont have infinite free time anymore

golden loom
#

yeah if I decide to play a rogue I will just boost a char I think kekman

normal mist
golden loom
rotund oak
novel star
hallow glade
#

“Wowhead said mast>crit>everything else so I have 35k mastery”

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Many such cases

normal mist
#

XD

golden loom
#

like even in melee range you just slam charges for free rage

rotund oak
normal mist
#

You know what's mad??

rotund oak
#

watermellon

normal mist
#

Sap being so cool

rotund oak
#

❤️

normal mist
#

Also watermelon yes

waxen oyster
#

mop ww

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is peak

normal mist
#

Peak... Of serenity

waxen oyster
#

Like idk i just dont enjoy

#

post wod monk

fallow canopy
#

Conduit ww is kinda fun

waxen oyster
#

i like how they gave them

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a plunderstorm ability

normal mist
#

Important question for the homies:

  • who else besides me watched "kpop demon hunters"?
fallow canopy
#

Have it on my watchlist, finishing the bear first tho

normal mist
#

It's worth it

static glacier
#

i googled it, idk why I was expecting a bunch of KR illidan cosplayers xd

quartz kelp
normal mist
main bridge
#

this is a kid's show? corncerned

spice spire
#

I should call her

normal mist
#

Really funny

lethal arrow
winged sun
#

Especially in early 2000s

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They’re famous too

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Disney included

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Its just that kids will never know its bad anyway

#

So they target both audiences i suppose

normal mist
#

Yep

#

Zeross are you a pre 2000 kid?

winged sun
#

1

hallow glade
#

unc status ross

ocean quiver
#

if i'm running legacy raids does sudden demise work?

#

some bosses with immunity might come in handy

#

not that it matters in the grand scheme of things

somber sparrow
#

it does work

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but most legacy raids it won't matter - can solo pretty much anything mythic shadowlands or earlier

plucky stream
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHI4tRcugME&t=2281s&ab_channel=Shindigg

YouTube
Shindigg
TWW 11.1.5 Assassination Rogue Guide but it's super long

Thanks for watching! If you found this guide helpful be sure to like and subscribe!

Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/shindigwow
Discord: https://discord.gg/nvwu8DzTr3

Raid ST: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZBWmBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNLjZA2mZZswYGzSjZbZYy2wwCA
Hybrid 2x Vanish: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzyMmtZAAAA...

▶ Play video
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Just got done watching this

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anybody know what weak aura he is using for his UI

#

He said it would be in video description, it was not

ocean quiver
#

be nice to just quick kill it

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like my arcane mage procced the immunity part at like 1m hp

golden loom
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
plucky stream
#

So based off those above

#

What is the group ones? What do those do?

tall dust
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

golden loom
tall dust
#

anyone know this add on for steatlh frame ?thx in advance

image.png
plucky stream
#

got ya thanks

#

Another dumb question

#

So I make that macro for deathmark

#

and I have nothing attached to kingsbane?

#

I just got a lil confused reading this

static geyser
#

its just incase if use trinket with kingsbane so u have it macrod already

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but u dont have to bother with it

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just macro with dm and chillax

plucky stream
#

ah got ya

velvet cairn
plucky stream
#

that makes sense

#

was wondering why he personally had 2 macros

velvet cairn
#

prob uptime related with different trinkets, you will manage with hoc or signet to DM!

sharp viper
ocean quiver
#

does anyone know how to get this set? I've done the raid 3 times and I just don't get those last 3 pieces, do I need to do something else for them idk

image.png
plucky stream
#

So I went through the guide and it doesn't mention anything about plater profiles, etc

#

Based off this

main bridge
plucky stream
hidden bay
#

Well.. plater is totally up to your liking

plucky stream
#

If not imma just use the one I been using

#

wasn't sure if these are fancy for rogues

hidden bay
#

I play standard plater profile

ocean quiver
sharp viper
ocean quiver
#

are the grasps hands?

sharp viper
#

like get a mythic cloak and use it in the catalyst -> you'll turn it into soulblade cloak

sharp viper
ocean quiver
#

I've had the tier drops tho? Are they different?

#

Like i've used the item

image.png
#

the one that's for rogue obviously

#

and hands but never unlocked? unless bugged

#

okay hands are bugged yeah

sharp viper
ocean quiver
#

says i'm 7/9

ocean quiver
#

I'm saying I used the rogue hands one

sharp viper
#

you might need to relog to update the collection showing it properly

ocean quiver
#

Wish I knew that before I sold all the gear lmfao

sharp viper
#

if you have more questions about transmog #transmog is the place to ask

velvet cairn
ocean quiver
main bridge
#

item restore doesn't go back that far

ocean quiver
#

i'll just wait for reset and get it

ocean quiver
main bridge
#

oh well then you can get it back right meow

ocean quiver
#

idk how to do it

#

and how long do they take

#

ages i'm assuming

main bridge
#

it's instant

#

as long as it takes for you to find the item

#

it's an automated system

ocean quiver
#

you sure that's correct

#

"New request (chinese word) via blizzard support website"

#

why chinese name

main bridge
#

idk what you're talking about

ocean quiver
#

went to sign in to that website and chinese writing in the 2fa thing

#

sketch

foggy mirage
#

Ingame go to support in menu and press item restore

#

The system is literally instant

#

The webpage is slow tho

main bridge
ocean quiver
#

the in-game system takes you to the website

foggy mirage
#

Yes

ocean quiver
#

now to find it

#

Thanks guys

tall dust
rotund oak
#

yeah

peak helm
#

qq - is there a way to do raidbots droptimizer where it looks at both M+ drops and heroic LoU? trying to get a BiS list that assume I won't clear mythic lou

crude helm
#

If you want just 1 item, you could just do 2 optimizers

main bridge
#

you can type whatever you want into top gear search box

crude helm
#

If you want total bis do that ^

waxen oyster
#

Nothing is worth from heroic besides jastor

peak helm
#

As in the +12 M+ gear list will be better than everything that drops in heroic?

waxen oyster
#

vault gear is myth track

#

so its always gonna be better than hero track

peak helm
#

Just getting back to WoW since shadowlands. Way more confusing than then lol

waxen oyster
#

SL barely had bis either

#

besides legos were more impactful than embellishments

#

Bis hasn't existed really since legion

iron carbon
waxen oyster
#

Well pre legion

balmy condor
#

And since highest ilvl > not highest ilvl

#

The raid won’t do you much except for the special ring

waxen oyster
#

jastor is the only item really worth at heroic ilvl

#

And there's two delve trinkets at hero that outperform the rest at hero.

peak helm
#

got it and farming m+ won't get myth track, only the once per week vault will be myth track yeah?

waxen oyster
#

But lose to mythic pacemaker.

balmy condor
peak helm
#

Thanks all very helpful

waxen oyster
#

Yeah you'd be better off just crafting in every slot you don't get in the vault

#

and take the 3 ilvl loss

balmy condor
#

Ye

#

Crafted gear is myth track -3 ilvl

peak helm
#

And for that I just farm +7 until I get enough gilded crests yeah?

balmy condor
#

Which honestly good enough

waxen oyster
#

Do your own key

balmy condor
#

I think these days faster to farm 12’s

waxen oyster
#

whatever you can get into

#

lol

balmy condor
#

But depends on if you’re lugging

#

Pugging

waxen oyster
#

If you pug you wont get into 12

balmy condor
#

Pugging is hell

waxen oyster
#

below 680

#

atp

balmy condor
#

Yeah

timber plume
#

How's ass rogue feel on the ptr rn

balmy condor
#

With pugs you just pray you get into legit any key

balmy condor
timber plume
#

Noted

waxen oyster
#

I still get declined for vault 12 keys

#

at 684

#

👍

peak helm
#

-.-

waxen oyster
#

pugs want mdi comp

#

Even if the tank dies first pull

#

and d/cs

main bridge
#

that's the pug experience

#

people that don't even know mechanics need the MDI comp to carry them

peak helm
#

Dang I forgot about MDI

haughty flicker
#

i wonder if im allowed to use shocking potions in pugs

desert spire
#

They want MDI and 4100 min rating for 10s..

waxen oyster
main bridge
#

GET PUSHED OUTTA THE GUILD!!!

peak helm
#

mdi dps are arcane, balance, unholy this season yeah?

coral ibex
#

we need that mp4 on a ! command

#

!pushweek

main bridge
#

i am glad they fixed affixes

haughty flicker
#

im glad 12s became weeklies so i didnt have to do affixs

waxen oyster
#

The affix is inviting a mage into your key

#

and basically doing it with 2.5 dps

waxen oyster
main bridge
#

what's kinda crazy is how many mages suck at using their defensives even though they have the best defensives in the game

waxen oyster
#

Well yeah look at that SS

#

dead with 3 avail

haughty flicker
#

wait how get that

#

i need it

polar rampart
#

mage is good, just most players are bad at mage

waxen oyster
#

Need to ask the healer who has it

plucky stream
#

yo

#

with deathstalkers mark

#

If I open with ambush on like a boss we'll say

#

it applies it

#

do I ever need to technically "reapply" it

#

or it'll be sufficient for the duration of the fight until he dies

haughty flicker
#

yes, but in a different way

#

every 3 finishers the mark will fall off and you'll get the darkest night buff

#

so you use envenom at max combo points and it does more damage and reapplies the mark

plucky stream
#

It's every 3 finishers with 5 combos?

#

then get a 7 combo for the darkest night?

haughty flicker
#

yup

plucky stream
#

so outside of that

#

what's the point of ambushing on opener then?

#

If I will always have the darkest night buff

spice surge
#

Applying it

#

To begin with

haughty flicker
#

because your finisher wont apply the mark in the first place

plucky stream
#

ah so without ambushing it wont ever give me the darkest night buff option

haughty flicker
#

you only get darkest night by using finishers on a target with mark

#

ye

plucky stream
#

got ya

#

so thats why in mythics

#

its important to always ambush after killing whoever I prio in pulls?

#

to reapply that mark

haughty flicker
#

if the target dies you also get darkest night

#

so can move it using full combo points again

plucky stream
#

ok so I got a lil grace period on target death

balmy condor
plucky stream
#

so if im understanding

#

basically on each pull im good without really worrying about reapplying an ambush ever

#

just obviously every pull prio target ambush

zenith elm
plucky stream
#

then worry about ambushing next target unless they're chain pulling

balmy condor
#

Yeah

#

If they’re chaining you just full cp envenom

#

If they’re not you just ambush

plucky stream
#

kk im learning sorry stupid questions

#

Im like reading the guides and hitting a target dummy rn

strange moss
#

In season 3 deathstalker will still be the overall better option or it will change to fatebound? (Maybe it is too early to reach conclussions...)

red schooner
strange moss
#

Ty for the info!

haughty flicker
#

They're fixing fb though trust

plucky stream
#

so been practicing my shit a lil bit

#

so vanishing mid fight is kinda important for me

#

since I am spec'd into improved garrote

#

in between pulls not for the deaths mark application

#

but for that

#

and maybe im also confused about something else

#

in shins vid he was talking about it'll show 4 combo points in our ui

#

but in reality I have an extra 2 free points when I envenom?

#

so it'll hit at 5 if im at 3

#

is that true I cant find it anywhere in my tree

novel star
haughty flicker
#

If you're using supercharger

#

In the class tree

novel star
haughty flicker
#

After you shiv your next two finishers act with bonus combo points

plucky stream
#

ah so since im using the x2 vanish build that's not the case

novel star
#

correct

haughty flicker
#

Ye

#

His video is most likely about the cleave build

plucky stream
#

so I need to always envenom at a minimum of 5 cp during normal rotation

haughty flicker
#

I haven't seen it but that's what I assume

novel star
#

you just build to 5+, finish, repeat until darkest night

#

build to 7

#

finish

#

back to 5+

#

spec learned

plucky stream
#

lmao

#

bruh it aint that easy im struggling

novel star
#

you’ll get there

fallow canopy
#

its the bell curve meme

runic hinge
#

i just press buttons

plucky stream
#

is multi target saying 3 targets or more?

#

to switch from mutliate to FoK

novel star
#

depends on your talents

#

we have a command for it

#

uhh

#

!fok

prisma monolithBOT
#

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

  • Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
    Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
  • Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
    Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
  • Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

celest crescent
#

what corru do you run in raids? echoing void sims highest, is it still bugged or?

novel star
#

5 raid 3 bleed 2 hybrid Okay

novel star
#

stats are nice :^)

plucky stream
#

so the x2 vanish build is considered hybrid build?

novel star
#

nah

#

builds are cleave / hybrid / bleed

plucky stream
#

oh im cleave then ye

#

i think?

novel star
#

cleave and hybrid take kingsbane and some envenom damage talents

#

bleed drops kb to take aoe shiv and shit

#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
novel star
#

wowhead guide has em

#

most likely ur running bleed but shrug

#

cleave is the one that drops double vanish for forced induction so definitely not that

plucky stream
novel star
#

hybrid gaming

plucky stream
#

weird the website on wowhead says M+ bleed build?

#

but shins vid says x2 vanish is better

#

😕

novel star
#

what do you mean