#assassination

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balmy condor
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unfucking believable

visual sun
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time to mute youtube for a while, them tier list about to rain

red schooner
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I enjoy data but at least I can say that the data isn't good in this case

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I like looking at numbers

normal kindle
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@balmy condor I love the reaction hahaha AIZEN is the truth AIZEN is a GOD he is predicting the META with all those spreadsheet ....

earnest remnant
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we should make our own tierlist, a "dumbfucks RH stereotypes tierlist"

royal lantern
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according to them, sub is the #1 rogue spec and needs nerfs

balmy condor
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I can't even be mad at the dipshits making the sheet

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they make them knowing full well there's enough stupid schmucks out there that will click

earnest remnant
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ive only slept 2 hours today i can be mad at everything

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just tell me what to be angry at

lunar pond
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The row with number errors is the hidden DH spec isn’t it?

rotund oak
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cant have the kid running around nameless!!Shame on u!

marble hemlock
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thats an interesting name for a cat

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is it a boy or a girl btw?

earnest remnant
rotund oak
marble hemlock
earnest remnant
marble hemlock
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im sure theres a chinese family somewhere that named their cat "katt"

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so it all evens out

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balance in all things

dense cedar
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can't believe assassination will be unplayable and perma benched next tier, wow so sad

hidden bay
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90th percentile etc. on ptr kills

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spreadsheets

hidden bay
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cuz the rogue switched to sub for some bosses

zenith elm
indigo mulch
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We love the PTR spreadsheet season, its when you have all of these people coming in and dooming. We specifically love that izen guy. Always so correct in his videos.

spice surge
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Love when they put "90th percentile" as if theres not like a dozen parses of a bunch of the specs Classic

zenith elm
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I'm gonna say we are doomed, even if we are not

rotund oak
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why would assa be unplayable?

zenith elm
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he should have said /s at the end lol

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be i hope it's sarcasm

rotund oak
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trying to decipher the thought process behind the claim

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like why

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but if u examine whats being expected makes it crazy

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like we get a good tier set

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if anything sin will be better

red schooner
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People are baiting about the spreadsheet, it do be that way garf_sit

zenith elm
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yeah, its only bc its bait

marble hemlock
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doomed with stupid people following those spreadsheets is what we are

zenith elm
red schooner
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Like it matters outside of rwf garf_sit

zenith elm
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I have my RL who asked me to be able to swap between the 3 specs perfectly for each boss

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i was like "yeah i will do that" will still spam Ass Rogue

red schooner
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If my RL asked me to play outlaw id tell him to fuck off kekdog

ocean elbow
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are we using stix trinket only in st/raid?

zenith elm
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And just say i'm not good with either specs

rotund oak
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if he is ''sure''

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yeah why not

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funnel that gear

red schooner
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My RL asked me to have sub as a flex but sub is pretty fun so its fine

zenith elm
golden loom
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I can flex a different game garf

zenith elm
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Outlaw is like a different beast than ass rogue

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and i dont like that beast which is ADHD

rotund oak
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pirate will be fiiiine

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just dont trigger the condition behind it 😛

zenith elm
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i like being able to use my hands

rotund oak
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gets a KS animation rework

zenith elm
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i want to have working finger by the end of season 3

rotund oak
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i think pirate will be okayge,all 3 rogue specs will be but depends the content,like the fight is pivotal to what spec is better so idk

red schooner
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I was looking at learning it anyhow because, I wanna be at least useful on adds

zenith elm
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depends which adds

rotund oak
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(only thing that matters is boss dmg)

zenith elm
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we're good on adds, if its on boss and we dont need to swap lol

rotund oak
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(unless ofc its more than 1 boss)

zenith elm
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we're still the best spec in AOE so we'll see with the 3 boss fight

rotund oak
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we will get sht on by many specs on 3 target cleave fights

zenith elm
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Yes

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But not normally by outlaw or sub

tulip flower
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Hi. I now have played assa for this season and I am in mythic progress, my problem is I seem to still make extreme mistakes with my rota. I have read all kinds of guides, have watched tons of videos, tried hekili, rogue WAs ... etc. etc. But I can't seem to get good parses. Would someone mind helping me out a bit and provide me with some coaching? I have been maining Rogue since vanilla but had a loong break and are only really back this season. Here are some parses from last week: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bwdhYAtaMFRvy4Kc see Martika

zenith elm
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so i'll still gladly have my spot as Ass rogue

golden loom
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I mean 3 target cleave sounds very good for assa

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You just have infinite energy and get to spatter + CT, problem is how stacked they stay

zenith elm
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on the second boss

tulip flower
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cauldron ?

zenith elm
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Nope sorry, warcraft logs is just insane and only track after 100 energy

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you use too much builder but not enough spender

golden loom
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well from the opener, you didnt ambush from stealth (I assume something went wrong since u knew to vanish ambush later) and you also didnt envenom before cds

solar wyvern
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40 envenoms on richard reverberation. Me thinks you're not finishing at 5+

zenith elm
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and you dont always envenom on your supercharged spender

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you need to always envenom on KB and DM

golden loom
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the kingsbane window is very weird, you shiv before KB but dont have 1 for the 2nd half and do weird globals during it

zenith elm
tulip flower
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I do not know, but rik I always feel super gimped as assa with the switch to the adds

golden loom
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eh I mean not really

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you can rupture there just fine, as long as you have envenom buff up

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same as you dont need to envenom on supercharged points (unless ur dry shiving then you ofc do that but), supercharger is just extra combo points so if you have to refresh rupture it you do

zenith elm
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Oh, i always rupture just before sooo i never used it there

balmy condor
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I mean if you're swapping to adds that's kinda the problem to begin with

golden loom
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from cauldron, you are GIGA wasting combo points

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finish on 5+ unless you have darkest night

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this looks like you are chasing 7 every time

dense cedar
dense cedar
balmy condor
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on anything

golden loom
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only thing you should ever think about swapping is specs, not target garf

zenith elm
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if in one point of the fight we need to swap, then assa isnt the most good spec for it

golden loom
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well u just dont swap

solar wyvern
dense cedar
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the finishing 2 below max thing feels so gross

zenith elm
solar wyvern
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On mobile so i cant look too closely but based on the image uwu posted that leads me to believe that being the case

tulip flower
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Well I got kicked for not switching to adds and sometimes you are forced to kill one far away because its going down too slow. Raidlead is complaining either way ... but ok the wasted CP is a good pointer too look out for

solar wyvern
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Also 72% envenom uptime is incredibly low

golden loom
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well low uptime would be a result of building to 7

zenith elm
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
tulip flower
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I dson'T even know how to determine these factors from warcraftlogs

golden loom
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cause you would be wasting energy

golden loom
solar wyvern
dense cedar
manic quartz
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i would def hate if we had to finish max every time

zenith elm
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if you really need to hard swap, swap to sub lol

solar wyvern
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Ah from the days of 5cp

dense cedar
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actually having to get to max everytime would be awful

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so this way of playing is very comf

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works nicely for mut rng anyhow

tulip flower
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Where do you get the stats about wasted CPs in the logs?

manic quartz
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resources > change hit points to cp

golden loom
solar wyvern
tulip flower
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What would be an acceptable rate of wasted CPs?

coral ibex
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idk if thats a meaningful statistic

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you will waste many cp thru correct play

golden loom
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Well as long as you follow 5+ and only push to 7 for darkest night, wasted cp is up to rng

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Cause you will just overcap naturally sometimes

tulip flower
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Yes thats why I asked for an estimate

manic quartz
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This is me from Vex 95 parse

zenith elm
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yeah

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near 95 percent of unwasted CP

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even going as far as 98 sometimes

balmy condor
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mutilate/ambush waste should be near 0

manic quartz
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Yeah, but i bet some of those are because getting to darkest night from 6cp or so

balmy condor
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note the usage of the word "near"

golden loom
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From sprocket, find one flaw

zenith elm
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Mine on rik myth 81 parses

tulip flower
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How do you keep track to make sure? Especially in Myth I feel thats also an issue of economy of attention for me.

balmy condor
zenith elm
balmy condor
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economy of attention

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fucking

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what

golden loom
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Poisoned knife enjoyers basegcat

zenith elm
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What is that

balmy condor
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min-max caffeine intake I guess?

golden loom
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It did 21k damage kekman

tulip flower
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Too much shit going on on the screen and getting old ^^

golden loom
dense cedar
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i think seeing how many combo points you are at is just something you should be on top of as a rogue

zenith elm
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just press your buttons lol

marble hemlock
golden loom
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Fair

zenith elm
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no but tbh, if you know the fight by heart, it gets wayyy easier for your attention

balmy condor
zenith elm
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do you have a weakaura for your class?

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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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like if you're having trouble seeing your combo points going to 5 then maybe world of warcraft isn't the right game for you anymore

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cause that's the entry to playing the class

dense cedar
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Make your combo point weakaura really annoying

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like make the 5th cp glow or something

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whenever its filled or past filled

zenith elm
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yeah, like make it make a sound

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like a "USE IT" sound

manic quartz
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i can vouch for Devlins WA. immaculate

tulip flower
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I think its good to know that there is the main issue. If I know whats the main issue I can work on it. I just did not know what exactly to look for.

zenith elm
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i did a duck sound everytime i have Darkest night up

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so i know i need to reapply my 7cp envenom

dense cedar
zenith elm
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Yes

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I'm gonna get fucked either way

dense cedar
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gonna have to change it to a cow moo or something

zenith elm
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cause we're doomed

dense cedar
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or right

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unplayable

tulip flower
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I think an audio hint is a good idea for me

zenith elm
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I just cant play

manic quartz
dense cedar
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gkicked for being in the spec while in a city

zenith elm
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If you see me, please remind me that we're doomed

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if not, i'll start to have hope for our spec

dense cedar
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outlaw best spec next tier cos they got that really cool icon update for killing spree

primal jolt
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i hear a MEOW when i hit 5 combo points garf

tulip flower
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The WA I have does something like that as well. Got the Luxthos one

dense cedar
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S tier change

golden loom
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I still only look at base ui combo points while still having the WA pack in the middle of the screen basegcat

zenith elm
dense cedar
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as long as ur getting the info at least

tulip flower
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Which of the WAs maakes it easy to set audio hints ?

dense cedar
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WAs are magic to me, idk how they actually work at all

zenith elm
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I can log in rn, so i cant help lol

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can't

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and i cant log in

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i'm fcking stupid

primal jolt
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never say that again in the sin channel not even as a joke

balmy condor
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idk how luxthos does it but generally you could just add an action on show to your 5th cp

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should just work

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unless he's doing some insano jank

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which I mean

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it is luxthos

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so kinda likely

primal jolt
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this message was sent 10 minutes ago thanks discord

tulip flower
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I mean I am an IT guy ... but I despise the fiddly mess of dealing with WAs. Got enogh of that at work ^^

primal jolt
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it wasn't for you

zenith elm
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Oooooh

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np mate

primal jolt
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yea

dense cedar
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only started some M+ this week, and I'm getting my lil baby key depleted pensivewobble

zenith elm
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WHEN ARE THE NEW TRINKETS SIMMED ??? CAUSE IF WE DONT HAVE THAT WE ARE DOOOOOMED

primal jolt
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we are always doomed

zenith elm
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sorry, needed to play braindead

balmy condor
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ironically they're mostly simmable I think

primal jolt
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next season drogbar rocks are bis

zenith elm
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Time to sim? ❤️

dense cedar
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Simming is evil, just guess instead

balmy condor
dense cedar
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Use your powerful brain muscles to simply know the correct choices

primal jolt
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im guessing that sin will be fotm garf

tulip flower
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I mean I don't even know where to start to add a conditional sound to the WA, not even an unconditional one.

primal jolt
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as always

manic quartz
zenith elm
primal jolt
zenith elm
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I tried to push for trinkets sims, guess we won't have dessert yet

balmy condor
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it's pretty disgusting how far in advance people want to know things for a patch they can't play

main bridge
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Whispyr please divine the future and tell us if we are good

dense cedar
zenith elm
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sorry, i was only playing a braindead ppl

tulip flower
zenith elm
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i'm actually not braindead yet

balmy condor
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patch in august = what % dps is my tier

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???????

golden loom
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Between 0-80000000% should be a good estimate

zenith elm
primal jolt
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!8ball is sin rogue bis next season

golden loom
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Idc me hit buttons

primal jolt
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damn

primal jolt
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idk the command

balmy condor
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the biggest meme of them all though is when the people try to argue with me that it's important to know so blizzard can tune

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I love people that are entirely disconnected from reality telling me what to do

zenith elm
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like they aint gonna tune two weeks after the season start

primal jolt
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so what im getting from this is, if sin is garbage next season its whispyrs fault

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noted

zenith elm
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bc they are gonna have A WHOLE LOT MORE data

dense cedar
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Its my fault actually

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I'm at Blizz HQ just turning knobs

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I'm gonna split TB and Shiv apart

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to give us an epic new keybind

thick brook
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i read that whole thread and this is what offended me the most. im yung i promise

golden loom
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We gotta poach some retail guide writers to the cata/mop classic wowhead guides tho cause good god are they useless

zenith elm
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Make KB an empower button pls

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so i can die knowing we are really doomed

dense cedar
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as you wish

primal jolt
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they should make the entire kit passive so you just auto attack

ocean sluice
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Does Thistle Tea auto go off?

balmy condor
# zenith elm bc they are gonna have A WHOLE LOT MORE data

forget that, before any of that they're already making the assumption that:

  1. blizzard cares about sim numbers
  2. blizzard can't do the math on their own
  3. blizzard trusts that I won't sandbag it
  4. blizzard trusts that the sims are accurate to the game
  5. blizzard tunes using the numbers some random discord rock dweller posts into the pins
primal jolt
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yes when low on energy

balmy condor
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like the logic is so backwards

dense cedar
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<30 iirc

coral ibex
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me when reading

ocean sluice
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gotcha ty

dense cedar
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i don't actually know why it does that

balmy condor
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removes a button

coral ibex
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because that's what the talent says

dense cedar
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is it just to make the rotation vaguely more complex

ocean sluice
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yea i guess i can unbrind it

balmy condor
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how does it make the rotation more complex

coral ibex
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yes removing a button makes the rotation more complex

balmy condor
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it's literally doing the work for you

zenith elm
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I want a fancy rock

dense cedar
balmy condor
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yes?

dense cedar
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and that's good?

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oops

golden loom
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!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

coral ibex
dense cedar
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i've been using it with shiv/kb

coral ibex
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what

fallow canopy
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Just drink tea garf_sit

balmy condor
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you just macro and then spam

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and if it procs that's fine

coral ibex
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yea you always get a charge with your kb

dense cedar
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ok

coral ibex
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that's how time works

balmy condor
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and it'll come up for your next kb

coral ibex
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xd

balmy condor
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and that's fine too

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and you ignore it otherwise

dense cedar
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it being 3 stacks means u just have this extra one

coral ibex
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me when i get a charge of tea every minute and kingsbane is a 1m cd

balmy condor
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extra what

golden loom
dense cedar
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the third tea

fallow canopy
coral ibex
balmy condor
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the third tea

coral ibex
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a third tea has hit the channel

balmy condor
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what are we cooking

hard river
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my reasoning for posting numbers tends to lean more towards "the data is cool" rather than trying to influence blizzard

fallow canopy
dense cedar
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im confused at the miscommunication

balmy condor
coral ibex
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no you're confused about how important it is to micro your tea

fallow canopy
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But things get... out of hand

coral ibex
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you can literally forget that tea is a thing

zenith elm
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The data is cool, but we are a

coral ibex
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entirely

zenith elm
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doomed

coral ibex
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you dont need to think about it

junior goblet
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anyone else ever have p[roblems with their cursor in game disappearing?

coral ibex
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auto procs are fine

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anyone telling you tea opti matters is coping

golden loom
hard river
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I don't envy that your tier requires actual work while outlaw is just unga

junior goblet
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lol no

dense cedar
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shiv 1 has tea, shiv 2 has a tea, and the third one just activating because I run myself dry is just like

balmy condor
dense cedar
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compeltely unimportant

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is that right?

coral ibex
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correct

dense cedar
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cool button

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why do we ahve it

coral ibex
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who knows

balmy condor
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we don't, it's passive

fallow canopy
zenith elm
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Love a passive buttons which does absolutely what it needs to do

dense cedar
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I should jsut be happy that the class tree doesn't incentivise taking Cold Blood

zenith elm
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i hate Cold Blood

dense cedar
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Its just very dull

zenith elm
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True

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i'm eager to try Dimensius btw

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i wanna know how hard its gonna be

balmy condor
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we'll see during the race I guess

main bridge
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i think it's gonna be insane

dense cedar
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I'm a bit lost of the way they talk about the guy

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saying he's huge

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like

main bridge
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he's as big as Stormwind

dense cedar
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are we fighting his arms or something

primal jolt
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we are fighting in 2fps

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thats where

dense cedar
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or we doing DW spine stuff

main bridge
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but yeah it's kinda confusing how we could possibly defeat a being that large

primal jolt
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here

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i posted it in general

dense cedar
main bridge
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nice slideshow

dense cedar
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Runs like one

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But yeah, they talk about him being huge but if that doesn't like play into the mechanics at all who actually cares

primal jolt
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tbh undermine was just random bullshit go mechanics

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i hated it

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no actual mechanics imo

dense cedar
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that's thematic

balmy condor
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guys

formal galleon
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how is assa looking on ptr?

balmy condor
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what if the boss being as big as stormwind

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is a marketing tactic

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from a company

dense cedar
balmy condor
primal jolt
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we got daggers and like

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poisons

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its great

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garf👍

dense cedar
primal jolt
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they forgot to put a big red button that you cant press in the raid, then id be interested

prisma cypress
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it's a video game

balmy condor
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do you buy chips because you saw a doritos ad?

primal jolt
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but the sheer amount of energy drinks i drink is enough to negate my healthy life

dense cedar
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fair, but to be literal, idk if i've ever seen a doritos ad

prisma cypress
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uncultured

dense cedar
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if I have it must not have worked

zenith elm
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i drink at least 3 monsters per day

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i have a resting heart rate of 45 in the day 38 while i sleep

primal jolt
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i used to drink 3 per day back in highschool but then id start shaking really hard

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so i had to stop because heart would hurt

coral ibex
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expecting advertisements to work like "oh i saw this ad now i will buy this product" and not like "i cannot force my brain to forget the ad i saw and it is influencing me silently"

balmy condor
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it ain't about paying a sub because the boss model is big, it's about "Holy shit the next boss in wow is HOW BIG? that's wild" and you weasel your way into conversation and drum interest and hype

coral ibex
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guys

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cmon

zenith elm
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my cardiologist doesnt understand how its possible

primal jolt
dense cedar
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tbf all food ads just kinda make me sick cos of food aversion

zenith elm
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Next boss? its wow ITSELF

balmy condor
primal jolt
dense cedar
primal jolt
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:(

coral ibex
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i heard the 12.0 raid is gonna have models bigger than the actual earth

zenith elm
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its just our PC trying to stay alive while turning on the game at this point

coral ibex
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holy moly!

main bridge
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next boss is Whispyr and he enrages when you ask too many questions about PTR balance

zenith elm
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That means he is already in enrage ?

dense cedar
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I honestly wonder if wow marketing really gets anyone other than returning players who are still clued into those news sources

balmy condor
zenith elm
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but we aint in execute range yet

dense cedar
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I never hear any stuff about wow outside of them

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Idk how the game actually gets new players

zenith elm
coral ibex
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well there are new players playing every day

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so you might consider that your experience isn't universal

dense cedar
coral ibex
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people consume different media

zenith elm
prisma cypress
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noobs are eternal

fallow canopy
balmy condor
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one of my friends was hyped that the patch was goblin themed and he's never played the game before

coral ibex
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there are actually some people who play wow, like it, and then tell their friends about it

dense cedar
coral ibex
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???

balmy condor
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it just happens

coral ibex
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new people join the discord every day

dense cedar
balmy condor
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the internet?

dense cedar
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liek once the hook is in you I understand the draw

zenith elm
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I always find myself talking to the same ppl everytime

coral ibex
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so they see

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different things

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to what you see

balmy condor
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wowhead articles gets hundreds of thousands of impressions

dense cedar
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I'm genuinly asking what this stuff is

balmy condor
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wow youtubers get millions of impressions combined every time there's a new patch

coral ibex
#

you're asking how digital marketing works

dense cedar
#

and how it reaches them

zenith elm
fallow canopy
#

the internet finds a way

coral ibex
#

look up the word "outreach"

midnight mist
#

@balmy condor where sims ?

prisma cypress
#

the algorithm always finds a way

balmy condor
midnight mist
coral ibex
#

people with marketing degrees get paid a lot of money to figure out how to reach new eyes

zenith elm
balmy condor
#

think about it like this right

#

I release a video

#

a very niche

balmy condor
#

very specific video

#

targeted towards a sub-community of a sub-community of a sub-community

#

it gets 3.3k views

midnight mist
#

wtf insane thumbmail dude !

balmy condor
#

but the video showed up

#

for 33k people

primal jolt
#

whispyr i always watch your videos

#

im a genuine fan

midnight mist
#

same

#

]

primal jolt
midnight mist
#

and idc about assa

zenith elm
#

I love your videos btw

hard river
#

]

midnight mist
#

i dont even know why i watch the videos

#

but i watch them

primal jolt
#

i liked the podcasts too when he talkes about rogue

dense cedar
#

impression is just like

zenith elm
#

He is chill, thats why

dense cedar
#

literally seeing it exists right?

#

like yt sidebar?

primal jolt
midnight mist
balmy condor
#

on average across most media on the internet, you will see between like 3-10% click through rate, big channels like asmongold or something will be like 4%

coral ibex
#

unless you have literally no digital footprint (unlikely) then digital market companies pay tons of money to find out who might be interested in the products they're selling and then they pay to get those people to look at the product

balmy condor
#

impression is showing up anywhere

#

side bar

coral ibex
#

you have a digital footprint, companies know what you want to see

balmy condor
#

home page

primal jolt
coral ibex
#

they pay to put their ads in front of your eyes

balmy condor
#

subscriber email

primal jolt
dense cedar
#

idk if people actually use the yt homepage except by accident

coral ibex
#

???

#

what

midnight mist
#

hm

#

I onyl uses that

zenith elm
coral ibex
#

ok you actually only think that people behave like you do

main bridge
#

yeah i basically just refresh the YT homepage to find stuff i want to watch

balmy condor
#

I only use the youtube homepage as well

dense cedar
#

I just have my sub box bookmarked

midnight mist
#

i only watch youtube through my recommended

coral ibex
#

i promise you

#

everyone is very different

#

your experience is not universal

coral ibex
#

i scroll my yt homepage every day

dense cedar
coral ibex
#

no you just dont get it tbh

dense cedar
#

obviously osme people use it

midnight mist
#

I dont go to my subscribed thing cause im subscribed to too many things so its useless

balmy condor
#

I feel like you're not making a point

dense cedar
#

otherwise they wouldn't bother having it wokr like that

coral ibex
#

the range of human experience is so wide

zenith elm
#

Vansolo is getting his perception on the world blown away

coral ibex
#

you are just not aware

somber sparrow
#

i only go to my subscription page and see if anyone has new stuff, I don't get notifications from any youtube channel. Trying to keep my email clutter free... If I go one day from cleaning up my inbox i'll have 100+ emails. I feel like that's a problem.

dense cedar
#

but i can't imagine its something that is that big

coral ibex
#

right, you can't imagine

#

that's your own issue

#

that doesn't mean its true

#

digital marketing is bigger than you can imagine

#

its more pervasive than you can imagine

#

it knows more about you than you do

balmy condor
#

just this preview probably hit 5+ million feeds

zenith elm
#

True

#

i dont know much about myself anyway

balmy condor
#

shorts? crazy

primal jolt
#

whispyr when blue hair again

midnight mist
#

only 370k views ?

#

washed up game

coral ibex
#

dead game fr

dense cedar
#

I ca'nt fairly judge shorts

normal kindle
balmy condor
#

this short with 63k views probably also got upwards of like 2-3 million impressions, cause shorts go bananas

dense cedar
#

I got an extention to disable clicking it

balmy condor
#

shorts are insane impression farm

dense cedar
#

cos my pc is made of wood

#

and was going on fire when I clicked itlol

midnight mist
#

i got an extension to disable shorts

#

cause i was watching them

#

and i could feel the brainrot

#

i couldnt stop

coral ibex
#

i'm not afraid of shorts, i lived through vine

hidden bay
primal jolt
#

i was using shorts when it was like just starting off and stopped since, it's too time consuming

dense cedar
coral ibex
#

and vine had a max duration of like 8 seconds

midnight mist
hidden bay
dense cedar
#

does yt shorts like

midnight mist
#

i watch short

dense cedar
#

autoplay?

midnight mist
#

next short start

dense cedar
#

that's evil

midnight mist
#

i watch short

zenith elm
dense cedar
#

and also annoying

primal jolt
midnight mist
#

next short start

zenith elm
#

but i let it consume me

midnight mist
#

i watch short

#

10 hours later

#

i watched a lot of shorts

#

too many

#

brain is rotten

zenith elm
primal jolt
#

no self control gg

midnight mist
#

ye

dense cedar
#

the impression thing is funny

coral ibex
#

instagram reels > yt shorts

dense cedar
#

i kidna wish yt woudl show me stuff I'd wanna see

#

in the sidebar

#

since i'm forced to see that one

primal jolt
zenith elm
primal jolt
#

ew

coral ibex
#

no i'd rather give all my data to the zuck than the CCP sorry

dense cedar
#

Is tiktok a popualr place for wow stuff?

coral ibex
#

reels > tiktok

zenith elm
dense cedar
#

tiktok kinda dropped of the face of the earth as far as people sharing stuff off of the platform

normal kindle
#

@balmy condor we want your melee DPS Tiers List Please !!!! for raid and M+ A TIK TOK 2 minutes video

zenith elm
#

and league of legends

dense cedar
#

for like any content

dense cedar
#

Got so used to every video I click on and social media just being a tiktok reupload

primal jolt
#

i dont want brainrot whispyr videos birbTT

dense cedar
#

I suppose yt shorts and reels kinda negated the need to share tiktoks since people probably jsut crosspost

coral ibex
coral ibex
#

my instagram feed is local schizos and videos like this

#

i built this algo brick by brick

zenith elm
#

mine is military shit i laugh to

#

and league, and wow

dense cedar
#

myo nly issue with algo stuff is it just assumes cos I like 1 thing related to it i'm gonna enjoy other things about it

zenith elm
#

and sometimes, ppl getting fucked bc they are bad

dense cedar
#

takes a while to course correct it at all

coral ibex
#

like there's this one account where his whole bit is he gets something for lunch like a sandwich or pizza and then he eats it on the highway at 70mph on his 3 wheeler bike

dense cedar
#

that sounds fast

coral ibex
#

pure content

zenith elm
#

it is

coral ibex
#

yea its pretty fast

#

he'd get pulled over for speeding in my neck of the woods

dense cedar
#

the lens choice is superb

#

funny that he's near you

zenith elm
#

My kind of tiktoks

coral ibex
#

epic

dense cedar
#

Assassination rogue discussion chat finally working as intended

zenith elm
dense cedar
#

letting me see a guy speeding in a still image

dense cedar
coral ibex
#

idk where this guy is, i assume 70 is the speed limit where he is

zenith elm
#

bc, why not?

coral ibex
#

idk i feel like 70mph is where "ok now ur going fast" starts

dense cedar
#

i mean he chose not to make it just going really fast

#

ah ok

#

lemme just do the convert real quick

coral ibex
#

many places in america have limits around 65 or lower

quiet oriole
#

Making videos breaking the law and posting them is wild

dense cedar
#

oh yeah thats fast

coral ibex
#

he doesn't show the speedometer, you can easily argue that the image on screen is just an image and not an accurate speed measurement

dense cedar
#

65 sseems basically identical to freeway speed limits here for the most part

#

actualy question: the catalyst mentions every 2 weeks to get more, is that tied to just to if its an even week for the tier, or is it a personal 2 weeks if it was capped at 8 before I used any?

spice surge
#

Even week, not personal

dense cedar
#

Ty

#

the insidious marketing thing is annoying me now @coral ibex you ahve ruined my brain

#

Sad how late I'm getting to this tier, no one running the the little keys that much anymore

#

How large is Airborne Irritant?

ocean sluice
#

Is Echoing Void fully fixed yet?

main bridge
dense cedar
#

Like the "nearby" size

hard river
#

think whatever is going on with it they have not deemed it worth the effort

dense cedar
#

the pin says its stil bugged

real pike
#

I drove on the autobahn recently, once you get to a certain speed it stops feeling any different when you get faster

#

Some Euro countries have painfully low limits

shy axle
#

worst is if you travel 150 kph for a longer time and have to go back to 30 in a village

#

just feels unreal

dense cedar
#

you have 150kph limits?

#

I dunno if I've ever experienced that

shy axle
#

100/120/130 is when there are limits most of the time, sometimes 80. Some parts are open

#

depends if there is cunstruction etc

dense cedar
#

130 is the highest i've ever seen iirc

#

surprised it goes all the way down to 30 in normal areas for you

#

School Zones here are 40

shy axle
#

citys have like a mix of 30 and 50. some citys have all 30 with enviroment regulations etc. Mine has still 50 most of the part, but its a small city in rhineland palatina

dense cedar
shy axle
#

no, what is that

dense cedar
#

the thing that makes blind aoe

#

struggling to find where the actual range is listed

hard river
#

perhaps it is this

dense cedar
#

ty

pliant remnant
#

Bro is gonna calculate when to press Blind down to the yard

hard river
#

dont see anything else in spell data that reference blind radius

dense cedar
#

like

#

I can't actually tell 10y in the moment exactly

#

but its nice to know it isn't like 5y or something

#

the ascendant affix is basically a non-issue but kinda annoying how rogue interacts with it

balmy condor
#

it is indeed 10y

dense cedar
#

double ty

real pike
#

I maxxed out at 182 in Germany

#

Car literally wouldn't go faster

#

And then these Porsches would just fly past me effortlessly 😂 😂

#

Pretty depressing

coral ibex
#

kph?

#

or mph

real pike
#

Lol kph bro

coral ibex
dense cedar
#

mph would be nuts right?

coral ibex
#

i'd be wondering what he was driving and what porsche passed him

real pike
#

Not even all Porsches can reach 182 mph

#

I saw one guy in an Ariel Atom I think it was

#

Absolutely flying

coral ibex
#

ive seen 140mph briefly

real pike
#

Was crazy to see

coral ibex
#

in my dad's old 740IL

#

that shit flew

real pike
#

Also I think most street legal cars are limited to 155mph by law

barren zenith
#

is it possible to cancel the knockback in sprocket with step? thinkge

#

don't want to int my raid trying it

coral ibex
#

most of this is dead straight with 0 police

barren zenith
coral ibex
#

oceanview flying

strange tundra
#

@coral ibex miss u

humble verge
#

man

#

why am i rank 54 on sprocket

#

doing a goddamn boost

drifting cloud
#

boss lived long enough for 3rd dm

harsh anchor
#

You push your buttons. That’s probably why

waxen oyster
#

That kill time

thick forge
#

is it possible to do shadowstep+rupture mouseover macro or no?

rotund oak
humble verge
waxen oyster
#

Technically sale runs should be better parse on some bosses no?

#

More spatter since less real dps

worn geyser
#

depends on boss, my alt rogue has a better parse on stix than my main cause u can pad on the adds way harder in an alt raid

waxen oyster
#

Stix also depends what ball set you get chosen for.

#

Imo 2nd set is best.

severe silo
coral ibex
#

wym

#

never get chosen, kill after 3rd set

#

after 2nd DM

#

gg

waxen oyster
#

Does stix really die in 3 sets now.

#

LOL

coral ibex
#

i mean my guild limps and kills in the 4th if we fuck around

waxen oyster
#

the 2nd kb timing is always a bit cursed

coral ibex
#

clean kills are between 3rd and 4th

waxen oyster
#

gotta wait till he lands

coral ibex
#

i assume a better guild kills faster tbh

#

oh you just hold cds for 38s

#

on the pull

waxen oyster
#

Yeah I havent done stix in a hot minute.

#

38s oh right

#

to time with add spawns after ball is done

coral ibex
#

the balls are usually rolling into the boss mid-DM

#

for first set

golden loom
#

yesterdays gally kill was not a good time for parsing garf

coral ibex
#

epic cleave moment

golden loom
#

not only does everyone else just nuke adds

waxen oyster
#

It's funny because logs are relatively split

#

for stix

golden loom
#

we also kill it too fast..

royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

It's fairly divided

golden loom
#

well stix is the most fake boss ever made

royal lantern
#

:3

humble verge
#

well 4 is vip run

#

1 of each armor

worn geyser
#

bro on my main i have gotten the first set on every kill, and ive tried to do the delay DM each time

#

it is not worth

#

it feels horrible

waxen oyster
#

isnt delaying better for getting 1st ball

#

else you lose your lingering

golden loom
#

no

worn geyser
#

hell naw

golden loom
#

you delay in hope of not getting first ball

worn geyser
#

so u can pad on hyenas

coral ibex
#

just dont get first set

#

if you do just roll into boss

waxen oyster
#

Well if your boomkins are smart they force first ball

coral ibex
#

"lagged mb"

golden loom
#

if u get first ball you are holding until like 400 minutes

waxen oyster
#

dont they

golden loom
#

thats just taking one tank ball?

waxen oyster
#

Yeah usually

golden loom
#

so doesnt change any rng of you getting it

coral ibex
#

why would you want to replace a dps with a tank hitting the boss instead

#

esp a dps that can also blow up all the adds

waxen oyster
#

Because they dont want the other sets

coral ibex
golden loom
#

yeah there is some moonkin tech

#

but idk if ppl do it anymore

waxen oyster
#

generally you dont need moonkins on the first set

#

when everyone else has cds

worn geyser
#

tbh if i could force first set every time i would also, just cd on pull then ur safe for the other sets which have more pad

waxen oyster
#

3rd set feels giga cursed to get

#

if you cd on pull

#

holy delay

worn geyser
#

idk if uve tried delay and gotten first set but im legit like praying someone hits 3 bombshells

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

the kb variance on stix

#

is funnier though

worn geyser
#

trash boss literally

golden loom
#

if boss is not on all stars idc

#

or if its cringe like gally

worn geyser
#

if they made the ball give u a damage buff based on points gathered per objective u completed with it

#

it could be interesting

waxen oyster
#

Well tbh i messed up so no orange for gally

#

on first kill

#

I delayed my 3rd dm for some stupid reason so i didnt get full value of cds on last set

#

I think we have 5 trials in for this reset? So we might have slower kill due to deaths.

golden loom
#

on prog pull we skipped 2nd intermission add set, on first reclear I died and then yesterday we skipped again

humble verge
#

lmao

fallow canopy
#

these days with no buyers you basically never see that set unless a lot of people die

waxen oyster
#

is 2nd add set at 7mins

golden loom
#

nah its weird

fallow canopy
#

and tomorrow we get +3%

golden loom
#

like if boss is low enough he just doesnt do it

fallow canopy
waxen oyster
#

Yeah

#

That's

golden loom
#

cause we had a pull at like 7:25 and he didnt do it

waxen oyster
#

This happened

#

And I played bad

golden loom
#

and we wiped cause we thought he was gonna transition

waxen oyster
#

btw

golden loom
#

but instead he did supression kekdog

waxen oyster
#

70m of that was spatter iirc

coral ibex
#

my raid is full of unethical padding patricks with burst aoe

#

i never have any fun

waxen oyster
#

I lowk lucked out since both our warriors died

#

and the dk

coral ibex
waxen oyster
#

I HATE the first add set

coral ibex
#

i never get any cleave at all

waxen oyster
#

i miss my dry shiv spatter sometimes because the dragon just pukes

#

on them

coral ibex
#

the adds are getting hit by the ranged and are literally fully spread out

fallow canopy
#

on our comp all the add sets just dissappear while I'm kicking the dude in the back

coral ibex
#

on every set

#

the only set i get cleave on is the 3m set

#

bc they all blew their load at the 2m set

#

so i save my DM for 3m

golden loom
#

soothing is also depressing

#

like 99% of the time the adds die before enrage matters

#

but then randomly we had a pull where I shived early and the adds 1 hit my tank garf

waxen oyster
#

I kind of just tell people

#

sometimes i get them natty with my rotation

#

but cover the others

#

I mean we have 3 druids 2 hunters and a dragon so it shouldnt ever be an issue

golden loom
#

yeah but they have to notice and target them

#

while usually aterial just makes that shit so easy

waxen oyster
#

Yeah you can usually get most

#

I swear sometimes they delay their cast

#

and its awkward

golden loom
#

yes

#

desynced enrages

#

fun

waxen oyster
#

Does feint actually reduce the tank cannister soak damage

#

i never confirmed

humble verge
#

yes

#

feint work on about almost everything

#

works

waxen oyster
#

Oh good so i wasnt wasting energy using it on cd almost

humble verge
#

nah

waxen oyster
#

almost rank 1 healing though

hallow glade
#

full leech + pot on pull + stand in bombs

#

(healpot on pull)

humble verge
#

real

#

i actually got called out on prog for not using pot

hallow glade
#

can you cheat gally slam

waxen oyster
#

I didnt even proc my cheat on kill

humble verge
#

but i never hit like a point where it would help

hallow glade
#

gally slam probably does 2x + 1 of your max hp so i doubt

humble verge
hallow glade
#

the big slam he does

humble verge
#

what slam

waxen oyster
#

Usually only time i procced it on prog

hallow glade
#

at the very start he does a big slam

waxen oyster
#

was when i walked into the laser

#

and stunned myself

humble verge
#

oh uh

#

just dont stand in it

#

tank is pulling him anyways

waxen oyster
#

I'm the guy closest to the beam

hallow glade
#

for your healing parse to proc cheat

humble verge
#

or u die

waxen oyster
#

so sometimes i walk too close

hallow glade
#

cheat is giga healing

humble verge
#

the first beam second doesnt hit

hallow glade
#
  • health pot
humble verge
#

didnt for me

waxen oyster
#

I do feel I greed healthpot more on rogue than other classes

#

due to vial existing

humble verge
#

i stood in one as he started

#

lul

#

same

waxen oyster
#

Do i use the 30s cd

#

or 5min

#

Crazy to think in legion vial had dr attached to it

hallow glade
#

-25 energy 🙅‍♂️

waxen oyster
#

for assa....

weak anvil
#

quick question, if am doing 3min push on mugze M

#

Do i hold 2nd deathsmark?

fallow canopy
#

no

hallow glade
weak anvil
#

soo just send send send off cd

#

tyvm

#

also saw one of logs for gally m, also hold 2nd deathsmark for the first adds that drop down from sky?

mighty vine
#

Yeah, typically hold for 2:54-3:00 on gally

iron carbon
#

Hey boyz, one of you got his Gally kill PoV to share with me?

humble verge
#

i forgot to record gally all my reclears besad

ruby shoal
hallow glade
humble verge
#

forgot the name but its one of those .io sites

#

lorrgs

dense cove
#

!builds

prisma monolithBOT
#

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
  • Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
  • Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
  • Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
fallow canopy
#

I have one but I died like an idiot in p3 :3

#

on our first kill

iron carbon
fallow canopy
#

sent you a dm

#

with the link

hardy dawn
wind totem
#

Did they fix void ritual? i see majority of top logs using it?

main bridge
#

void ritual was never broken to my knowledge

#

echoing void is bugged though

wind totem
#

right thats what i meant

#

keep mixing them up

#

mb

ocean sluice
#

When running with Crimson Tempest do i want that applied before deathmark or just dont use on ST?

main bridge
#

does anything in DM even affect CT?

#

it doesn't mention CT

ocean sluice
#

kk ty

main bridge
#

for the bleed build you do use CT on ST though

thin furnace
#

Technically another bleed boosts your damage another 2% if i'm not wrong due a talent

#

Dont remember name

#

Icon is like a green skull?

ocean sluice
#

Leathal Dose?

runic hinge
#

Yes that one

#

Dm does not affect CT but you do want it up during dm for the lethal dose stack

static glacier
#

but normally you'd open, apply mark rup gar and ct

#

then send cds

worn geyser
#

ive seen it said a few times that bleed has timed 20s. i was trying to find that run /runs but i cannot find it, which rogue was running bleed in 20s?

static glacier
#

also only bleed build uses ct on st

#

if you have amp poison talented you dont ct on less than 2t

zenith elm
#

OMG WE ARE DOOMED

#

/s

#

from 4 hours of ptr, RL saying rogue could be not taken into next season LOL

mighty vine
#

Its like, second week of PTR

main bridge
#

don't let logic get in the way of your dooming

zenith elm
#

i know

#

i just want to doom

#

please let me

#

@main bridge understand me, thanks brother

#

I just find this fcking hilarious

mighty vine
#

Itll prob be like this season. Sub is better early prog, then sin gets a weird random buff on Mutilate and then we tied at middle of the pack again

midnight mist
#

and every tier i open it

#

and i still dont understand

#

how to read it

zenith elm
#

NP mate

midnight mist
#

maybe im too stupid

zenith elm
#

let me help you

midnight mist
#

or its just trash

#

who know

zenith elm
#

WE ARE ALL DOOMED

#

(its just trash btw)

haughty flicker
#

ive already rerolled based on it

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glad i could get that done early

somber sparrow
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the right side is just specific specs in order. the middle section is the dps regardless of spec, so you have to scroll quite a bit to find what you want.

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if you want to compare various assassination rogues, go to the right side to their section and see how all of them did

zenith elm
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AND WE DID TRASH

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WE ARE DOOMED GUYS

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REROLL FAST

main bridge
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my spriest is ready

haughty flicker
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nah hunter is where its at