assassination

[hollow river]

lmao

[rotund oak]

chicken salad (arugula,spinach,mini tomatoes,cuccumber,olive oil,vinnegar,cottage cheese) with sparkling water

[hollow river]

singular focus has been like this all expansion, but i haven't had much issue with meld

[plush apex]

as i said

its since DF

infinity combat for assa

i couldnt restealth

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lobo-salivando-lobo-lobo-mau-pica-pau-gif-11152800497749808612

[plush apex]

i couldnt meld restealth

my macro is good

[shy axle]

how do you position yourself on the last boss rookery? just always in the "middle" section and go right/left if needed for pillars to be in healer range all the time or do you stay on your "pillar-side"?

[plush apex]

i tested it with AHK

its just shouldnt work like that

im staying like 10sec behind pillar noone touching me

and i couldnt press stealth

and leave combat

[hollow river]

like, during DF?

[plush apex]

ye

since df tier set

[hollow river]

idk what you're experiencing then

[plush apex]

now its talent

[hollow river]

corrupt the blood isn't the issue though

i remember df tier or w/e

but the thing causing you to be stuck in combat now is singular focus

but like i said, haven't had much issue with melding

[main bridge]

i usually stay near a corner so the healer can reach me, but making sure i don't cover the area in the void zone. there is plenty of time to walk to your pillar when you get the circle

[hollow river]

you can't go for clean restealths, the stealth will break if you have bleeds out+a marked target

[rotund oak]

its also a range check thing

u might as well have agro'd anything coz close proximity to combat

thats why meld is unreliable

[hollow river]

ye

sometimes meld bugs on it's own, regardless of anything to do with assa

[runic hinge]

Meld is pretty consistent for me in arena. It’s way worse in pve

[hollow river]

same

[rotund oak]

yup,although i dont enjoy nelf in pvp alot it can do some rly crazy stuff

[hollow river]

there's like a 5% chance for it to bug when you're trying to meld an incoming cast/cc

just depends

but i very rarely run into issues when i'm using it offensively to get a subterfuge window

[rotund oak]

since ive seen whaazz doing those crazy melds of stormbolts etc

and meld vanish traps and fears and coils

im like ok,its prolly the best in terms of doing insane plays

no doubt about it

human still remains my favorite though

[plush apex]

i didnt asked for clean restealth

i couldnt even press stealth basically

to get subterfuge

to get master assasin talent for 12sec after u went from stealth

etc

ofc i know that i will come out of stealth insta

[hollow river]

oh i thought thats what you meant by standing behind pillar for 10s, mb

[plush apex]

na

i couldnt press even

single stealth

cuz of infinity combat

i cant leave combat by sitting behind pillar on arena

literally NOONE touching me

and i couldnt get a stealth

even tho i went out INSTANTLY

[hollow river]

the combat thing is normal, but not being able to get subterfuge is weird

[plush apex]

i could sprint/shadow step cheapshot/garrote

etc

ye im telling u

i know that u leave combat after like 5-6sec

or w/e

but i cant leave combat for 10 or even more seconds

to JUST press stealth

[hollow river]

ye, thats normal

[plush apex]

to get subterfuge

[hollow river]

its been like that all expac ye

meld->stealth normally works fine for me

but just pressing stealth alone isn't gonna work most of the time

[shy axle]

@main bridge thank you. Do you actively try to place the void zone at the edges far away?

[hollow river]

if you can consume your deathstalker's marks first, you should be fine

deathstalker's mark+bleeds on another target are what cause it

so if you have Darkest Night up and no Marks out, you can drop combat fine

[main bridge]

the idea is to make sure you have a path to the pillars and a place to stand when you attack the boss

[shy axle]

thank you

[plush apex]

its only started since DF tier set

thats why i cant even meld stealth

even with AHK with 100presses in 1second

cuz its just bugged

[hollow river]

idk man, i haven't been experiencing it like that

[runic hinge]

it's worked like 95% of the time for me in pvp and probably 60% of the time in pve, idk how it's going so badly for you

[plush apex]

could u tell me what i did wrong?

i havent pressed a single global before meld

i waited like 1-2sec before it

[runic hinge]

did you press stealth?

[plush apex]

bro

#showtooltip Shadowmeld(Racial)
/cast [nocombat] !Stealth
/cast [nostealth,combat] Shadowmeld(Racial)
/cast [nocombat] !Stealth

its macro

u can even see how fast i press

meld macro

[runic hinge]

that's what I use and it works fine

[haughty flicker]

smeld

[runic hinge]

[plush apex]

thats bad macro

[runic hinge]

works for me

and yours doesnt lol

[haughty flicker]

[plush apex]

it wont work in arena

while ur pressing globals

[runic hinge]

it does

[plush apex]

doing rotation

etc

like mby it does

if u just go to dummy

[runic hinge]

I did it plenty

[plush apex]

and press 1 2 3

i just maked

macro

/castsequence Shadowmeld(Racial), Stealth

[runic hinge]

It worked just fine for me in sw on the dummy you're hitting idk bro

[runic hinge]

also i don't think you need the (racial) part

[winged sun]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[plush apex]

what am i pressing wrong?

[winged sun]

THEY NERFED OUR TIERSET

NO FUCKING WAY

16%

????????????????

[plush apex]

i did ur macro

on video

last

u can see it

[winged sun]

no way our deathstalker buff is 16%

[plush apex]

it literally doesnt LET me press stealth

[winged sun]

instead of 50

[plush apex]

while im in meld

[plush apex]

like whats wrong with it?

[winged sun]

[quartz kelp]

still 50 if u mean this part

[winged sun]

must be a visual bug or someshit

it says 16% for me

[quartz kelp]

when did u log in

[winged sun]

now

[quartz kelp]

maybe it updated

ive been on for an hr

[winged sun]

idk

[quartz kelp]

ill restart surely they didnt nerf it

[golden loom]

shiv a dummy and see if the tooltip for darkest night says 90%

[vivid seal]

any recomendations on what to remove for cold blood if i wanna try FB?

[quartz kelp]

yea still 50 after restart

[coral ibex]

follow the wowhead guide

[golden loom]

or 69%

[golden loom]

supercharger

[coral ibex]

there's one fb talent page

[vivid seal]

thanks!

[runic hinge]

what happens if you wait for IC/MA to end does it work better then?

[plush apex]

what IC MA means?

[runic hinge]

indiscriminate carnage / master assassin

lasts 12 seconds outta stealth with subterfuge talented

bro idk, it's like 50/50

[spice spire]

Either it will or it won’t

[runic hinge]

i try to move a little away so i don't auto or anything and wait out those 2 buffs

[spice spire]

So real

[timber plume]

In some situations, how do you guys determine whether to tab target bleed vs envenom main target for caustic spatter?

Like in raid for example

[runic hinge]

in raid i'd rupture snipe an add for energy but generally just sit on boss

[timber plume]

Gotcha

[keen spruce]

[hidden bay]

this is the way to buff fatebound

by just nerfing deathstalker

[quartz kelp]

deathmark just disappearing when killing arcane collectors

[silk bane]

WYM OUR?

bro betrayed the ship

make him walk the plank

and take his soups

[winged sun]

idk

maybe a weird tooltip b ug

[winged quail]

Maybe they are actually nerfing the tier because they are changing deathstalker

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[hidden bay]

nono

nerf that fatebound looks more attractive

[gray raven]

they didn't really nerf it though right? just a bug?

[solemn echo]

Surely xd

[manic quartz]

If the new tier set makes shiv consume one stack of mark, what happens when you have DN up and shiv?

[worn geyser]

unless u vanish ambush , nothing happens

[gilded rune]

fatebound does sound so fun next szn

[worn geyser]

if u have a fresh DSM application with DN up, it reduces it to 2 stacks when you shiv but you keep DN, then when you slam the DN it doesnt over write

[sour skiff]

fights have been aids for me with DS mark so far

[worn geyser]

the council boss is pretty aids but i kinda fuck with it on DSM its like hella fun to try and perfect getting a DN to transafer it when they phase

altho everything ive tried i feel like i do zdps ngl , 2+2 set felt good on the council boss but that might be troll asf idfk

[hidden bay]

yes and no

[frozen glacier]

@winged sun how we feeling in m+?

[hidden bay]

if they manage to make coldblood go on cooldown once you press it instead of going on cooldown once you used both envenoms then yes

[fallow canopy]

ye that's pretty awkward

[winged sun]

idk hard to tell in this dungeon because its a bad melee dungeon, also the 2nd boss removes ur mark on every intermission which is cringe

so far sin looks pretty bad

the tier set is dogshit

[worn geyser]

yeah

[frozen glacier]

😦

[worn geyser]

the set feels fine, so numbers will be changed before live anyway

[normal mist]

Purple and Whispyr having exactly the opposite feelings towards the set is amazing

[sour skiff]

i like fatebound tbh

[buoyant herald]

i mean ofr course its gonna be dogshit when you can't leverage your hero talent on a boss(es)

[worn geyser]

the fatebound set part is really cool, dsm part is fine enough just feels numbers weak compared to other certain classes (spriest...)

[royal lantern]

FB is cool because changing a specs CD timers AS A CHOICE is simply really fucking insane as a concept

deathstalker is more passive, but atleast its a bit more interesting then the ussual "poisons/bleeds do x% more dmg" tbh

[hidden bay]

fix coldblood issue and give more aoe to fatebound

and we cuh

[vestal cliff]

fractillus seems pure ST so good with FB maybe!

[slate bough]

Which tier set slot should not be used?

[autumn idol]

😭

[fast mural]

fatebound sucks

[normal mist]

sim it

Bis lists are stupid so just go with whatever you have and sim stuff

[vestal cliff]

fatebound on fractilus feels fun

[lucid nexus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

fractilus fatebound we are so back

[fast mural]

idk i feel on PTR ds pumps

ds fractilus 3K

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean fatebound pumps too

just not when there's adds

[fast mural]

maybe, what trinks are you playing on fate

[balmy condor]

spymaster and some random shit idk

it's not ideal cause the dungoen trinket ain't on the vendor

and fatebound tier is bugged

but ya know

[vestal cliff]

hell yeah its so fun right???

sadly group disbanded on last boss

[fast mural]

ah cool

another bug

😄

[rose inlet]

What’s up w fatebound tier

[vestal cliff]

more like , one boss fatebound

[lucid silo]

we dont use languaged like "bugged". its differently coded

[fast mural]

Deathstalker shiv that you skip on mark is awesome

so helpfull

[gilded rune]

yes because extend kb

no because fatebound

did I get it right :D

[hidden bay]

I totally forgot about that bug aswell

[hasty saddle]

once you collect gear as assassination, do you have to get new items for sub/outlaw for correct stat distribution?

less crit more haste type deal?

[normal mist]

Assa doesnt really care about stats

sub doesnt really care about haste

outlaw wants a haste cap and no mastery at all

^ TLDR

[ashen pecan]

sup guys, assa doing good in testing?

[balmy condor]

it's fine

some specs have like 40% tier sets

so

that's a bit cringe

[winged sun]

assa looks op

[fallow canopy]

nexus king looking fun af

[winged sun]

ya

[fallow canopy]

can't wait to lose my mind on prog

[worn geyser]

that fight is very fun

[ionic arrow]

I dont have access to myth cards. So I think myth signet > hero cards?

[ashen pecan]

Not bad (?)

[frozen glacier]

HOLY BIG DEEPS

[fast phoenix]

have you tried hitting the boss?

[winged sun]

yea i did

sin bad maybe buff soon

[slim cradle]

When i was playing Nexys King , my group had Mark bugg happen again, and only 1 assa benefited from hero talent

[fast phoenix]

whispyr was doing 4 million on Nexus King lie

[worn geyser]

our dev evokers were doing actual crazy damage ngl, i feel like i was going crazy and something had to be bugged but im checking logs and it all seems fine so idk

just ptr tuning things itll be fine anyway

[haughty flicker]

me when the strong spec that got a strong tier set continues to be strong

its early ptr plenty of time for them to chop evokers balls off

[midnight iron]

Dragons dont have balls since they lay eggs

[worn geyser]

the fights were really fun tho

[midnight iron]

Or smth

[fast phoenix]

thats cute you think they will let their newest class fall off

my sweet summer child

[cerulean plume]

what the least thinking required rogue spec atm

[midnight iron]

Not rogue

Definitely not outlaw

[frozen glacier]

dont worry guys the night janitor that sneaks into the class dev offices will make changes to us soon

[midnight iron]

Diablo rogue

[cerulean plume]

so outlaw hardest rn, then sub then ass?

[midnight iron]

Yeah or just like, play a simpler class or swap to Diablo if u want braindead gameplay

[royal lantern]

i saw enough art that proves you wrong

[haughty flicker]

brother dev has been the skeleton at the bottom of the swimming pool ever since aug came up

[cerulean plume]

I have to play a rogue for a charity event next week, so I cant really :/

[haughty flicker]

until they finally gutted aug

[cerulean plume]

we all have to play a class we havent before

[haughty flicker]

they have no problem with dev rotting

[royal lantern]

evoker was mostly Mid during its launch expansion

DH was mid-to-bad during its launch expansion

Monk was mid during its launch expansion

but sure

[midnight iron]

Idk why people care so much about braindeadedness of spec’s sounds like “i dont want to learn/git gud, how can I still perform without doing the things I need to do to perform”

[royal lantern]

[midnight iron]

Just play what’s fun and get gud

In the most non-toxic way possible

[fast phoenix]

for a short time***

[haughty flicker]

honestly at least the fights look fun

i think all of the ones ive seen so far are cool

[royal lantern]

i mean, aug was just a giant mistake

and like

aug also removed dev/presvoker from the game

like, literally nuked out of existence

[fast phoenix]

aug is just a spec they should of never brought into a 20+year old game, buffing others is messy - misnomer

yeah aug was a mistake in itself

[worn geyser]

they all feel so much fun, although 2nd to last boss and 4th boss could have really cringe damage holds i think if tuned poorly

[royal lantern]

devastation lifecircle was

class comes out and it was allright, next tier it was allright again, aug released->literally gone until this patch

lmao

[haughty flicker]

yeah i saw the phasing is %hp based which is always a recipe for disaster

you'd think they would learn but oh well

[worn geyser]

like our group was blasting the last boss on pull so hard we were skipping a clear of the debuff

and thats with scaled down gear

but all good we cope that they make it just auto clear the stacks if u phase gg

[fast phoenix]

devoker has been very strong for majority of its lifecycle

[buoyant herald]

Dev was actually pretty good but just horrifically overshadowed by aug as soon as it dropped

[fast phoenix]

sure theres peaks and valleys, but that comes with all tunings

[haughty flicker]

if a spec is tuned well in a forest and nobodies around to hear it is it actually tuned well at all

aug is a scourge upon the land

its death will be celebrated for generations to come

[runic hinge]

They shoulda just made a tank spec

[cerulean plume]

its np ima just do whichever one is least dmg lost on 1ba prob so looks like im playing ass

[runic hinge]

And called it a day

[fast phoenix]

yep always said they should of made it a tank spec or melee in some capacity, not making it tank was such a miss

or a melee caster w/ shield like some NPC's

[royal lantern]

better idea

they delete outlaw

not related to evoker, but its always a solution

[midnight iron]

Noooooo a fun high apm class 😭

[fast phoenix]

no dagger throwing spec is a miss too

[midnight iron]

Pew pew pew

I want my pews!

[fast phoenix]

3rd DH spec should be a warden/sentinel like from W3

[royal lantern]

what have wardens/sentinels to do with DH

[fast phoenix]

they hunt demon hunters

if you played warcraft 3

[royal lantern]

sentinels are Hunters, Wardens are literally just nimble fighters

[fast phoenix]

theyre a society really

[royal lantern]

no they dont because DH didnt exist until WC3 illidan sucked on the skull

like

they where just, like the name says, Wardens against stuff they think is evil lol

[fast phoenix]

theyre just guards, im being a bit facestious with the lore... dont trip over the semantics

[haughty flicker]

wardens are literally just special police

[fast phoenix]

never stopped blizzard from stretching things

[haughty flicker]

i feel like they should be their own class instead of just a spec

nimble arcane fighters in plate

very cool space there to work with

[fast phoenix]

they should of and were asked to be by the community for many years, but 20 years later, just be easier to tie it into the DH spec

could easily tie the lore in

[royal lantern]

i mean, the community asks many things

and its REALLY good they dont listen to everything lol

[midnight iron]

Mage Rogue when

[fast phoenix]

i mean yeah that could be said about a lot lol

[royal lantern]

mage has spellsteal

actually more stealing stuff in its gameplay then the rogue class

smh my head

[midnight iron]

I am joking but that’s cool actually thinking about going fire mage for ranged dos alt

[royal lantern]

btw about Mage Rogue

i will never forget blizz being blizz

Dalaran falls

the ROGUE CLASS HALL npcs are in dornagal

in a hidden chamber

who gets a special interaction with the ROGUE CLASS HALL npcs

mage ofc

[fast phoenix]

youll be ok

[haughty flicker]

I mean it's millhouse too, the joke is that valeera won the polymorph spell from him in strip hearthstone

[royal lantern]

ye sure

[haughty flicker]

I never really got that complaint

[royal lantern]

its just funny af

[haughty flicker]

Kind of just mage hate

But I love mage hate

So it's fine

[royal lantern]

mage and boomie hate is always good

no wrong time for that

[ocean quiver]

When there's a pack of like 15 mobs, (low key too so like 12ish) do we have to swap targets and spread or can we just keep focus on the main guy?

[balmy condor]

should be slamming main guy

[ocean quiver]

Aight ty

This goes for any size pack right?

[indigo mulch]

Did you do raid testing today @balmy condor ?

I totally missed it, i had to be a dad.

[runic hinge]

He did some lag testing

[indigo mulch]

Ah comcast strikes again.

[balmy condor]

yes and the vod is up

I lagged a little during the first boss

but it was okay after that

[indigo mulch]

Any thoughts so far? 😮

[haughty flicker]

Probably not

Head empty

[balmy condor]

thoughts are whatever you think of assa now is what you think of assa next season

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drinking-faucet-gif-22640823

[indigo mulch]

I mean i like assassination. So i guess that's good.

[ocean quiver]

most broken spec in the game

[balmy condor]

deathstalker has pretty giga burst now

fatebound is janky

but we already knew that

everything else is the same

don't think there's really much changing other than that

[indigo mulch]

Another deathstalker tier it is.

sadge

[balmy condor]

fatebound was very good on the single target boss to be fair

but the jank from cold blood and vanish just makes it strange

[indigo mulch]

But if its just 1 boss its kind of meh.

[haughty flicker]

How'd you feel about the bosses themselves?

Watching streams they all looked decent but I couldn't play myself

Also confirmed void dh is a ranged spec bc of boss

[balmy condor]

bosses good

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

there wasn't a boss that I immediately was like "wow that's shit"

[zenith elm]

I love DS

[red schooner]

No stix-esque boss I hope

[waxen oyster]

why do people care so much about another dh spec

[balmy condor]

there was some stuff where like mechanic X was really quick or mechanic Y hurt real bad

but like, fights themselves are cool

[indigo mulch]

I just don't want another tier filled with pointless adds to pad on. :c

[balmy condor]

doesn't seem like it so far

[red schooner]

My guild relies on the strategy of, 'foist mechanics off onto the 5 trusted players', so stix was fucking pain for us.

[zenith elm]

All that matters

[waxen oyster]

also stix is basically the idea of a wall for a low end ce guild

where your shitty mechanics player

can wipe you

[balmy condor]

2 of the fights tested today had "pointless" adds

they had like "kill this big fucking guy and cleave these things" type shit

[red schooner]

We caustic every fight lets go

[zenith elm]

Do we need to hard swap sometimes or just full on boss ?

[indigo mulch]

Meh

[balmy condor]

you have to hardswap

[red schooner]

[zenith elm]

Nooooooo

[indigo mulch]

Well we can always pray for some fatebound changes.

[balmy condor]

first boss we tested you literally can't cleave the big add

goes immune if it's within 25 yards of the boss

and then the last boss there's razsageth type platforms

[zenith elm]

Oh no

[red schooner]

At least if we're running VV still it saves vanish for the swaps I guess.

[balmy condor]

split the raid in 2, go kill a thing

[zenith elm]

We are gonna do 0 dps on that add

[red schooner]

So could be worse.

MA builds on things like court hurt

[balmy condor]

I was one of the highest dps on that add

[zenith elm]

What ? How ?

[balmy condor]

envenom

[zenith elm]

Does it hit that much for next season?

[balmy condor]

bout as much as now ye

[zenith elm]

And you didnt vanish or anything to still use DS talents ?

[fast mural]

i just like that when you shiv you skip a mark is so helpfull sometimes

[balmy condor]

that's what darkest night is for

[zenith elm]

Oooooh so you swap when you get Darkest night ok

I thought it was a random moment

[balmy condor]

yes?

how else would you swap lmao

[zenith elm]

No i mean

[balmy condor]

it's either that or you burn vanish

[fast phoenix]

lmao

[zenith elm]

Like even in the middle of the fight you need to swap immediatly

[balmy condor]

yes, that's what darkest night is for

[zenith elm]

Not like wait for darkest night

[balmy condor]

you know when the add is spawning

you either vanish or you darkest night

but you can plan it out

it's not some random spawn that just happens

you just go "oh, add soon, let me not be a dumbfuck real quick"

and then you move and it's chill idk

[haughty flicker]

wtf how am i supposed to do that

[red schooner]

gg

[runic hinge]

Never not been a dumb fuck before

[fast mural]

Did you use on platform Deathmark ?

[balmy condor]

on the last boss?

[fast mural]

yeaon salda

[balmy condor]

probably if you want to parse but I just slammed boss

the beam RNG before the platforms were killing us 24/7

[fast mural]

ah nice, i only fb boss and mark add

kb*

[balmy condor]

is kb up in time?

[fast mural]

off about 6-6 sec

[balmy condor]

hm

[fast mural]

6-7 but depends on blast

[balmy condor]

seemed longer

[gloomy heart]

[fast mural]

I have to check logs

[balmy condor]

I was looking at timers for it on a pull and it was like 15 or 20 off

like not even remotely close

[indigo mulch]

First boss looks like such a happy outlaw boss ;o

[balmy condor]

probably not

[haughty flicker]

outlaw players are never happy

so i doubt it

[balmy condor]

there's a damage amp after the intermission

so

[indigo mulch]

Oh my

[balmy condor]

deathstalker on the intermission is a ride though

you have to kill the 3 pylons

but it's a classic "the pylons don't actually die"

so you don't get a dn refund

[haughty flicker]

[versed mica]

Rogue is the spec that is king of being fucked by mechanics

[haughty flicker]

god i fucking hate deathstalker more and more

i didnt mind it at first

[fast mural]

it's about 14-15 sec

[versed mica]

Because we always have to have these weird gimmicks that conflict with boss mechanics

[red schooner]

its fine surely they'll fix it

[gilded rune]

so hows Sin looking so far in raid

missed a lot of ptr testing

[balmy condor]

yeah that's too long

that's half the platform phase

[ocean quiver]

Can someone help me understand something real quick, watching shindig on twitch rn he's doing the big pulls but I never see him garrote? is there a reason why? maybe specific build he's running or something

[haughty flicker]

so what you're saying is

[ocean quiver]

He only seems to do it on bosses

[haughty flicker]

fatebound would line up perfectly

[fast mural]

yea prob, we were progress so i wanted to phase 3

[ocean quiver]

I asked in his chat but he's obviously busy in the keys so not able to reply

[balmy condor]

he's playing cleave

[ocean quiver]

So 0 garrote at all?

[balmy condor]

not in big aoe like that, no

[ocean quiver]

that is rupture

not garrote

[gilded rune]

oh um

[fast phoenix]

garrote dmg is a question of opportunity cost... its not that high of a dmg spell so better to just focus on other things

[gilded rune]

wait

I need sleep

good night

[ocean quiver]

lmao all good

[versed mica]

[haughty flicker]

[gilded rune]

[ocean quiver]

Fairs fairs

[warm flint]

💀

[fast phoenix]

why spend GC'ds on weak garrotes when you have 10+ mobs

[ocean quiver]

Fair enough, wasn't sure as I press it a lot

I play sudden demise build so maybe different I guess

need that extra dot value

[fast phoenix]

hes playing hybrid build in 17-20+'s

but when you have that many mobs, rupture a few and just focus on cleaving everything, fan > envenom the custic target, keep CT up

[ocean quiver]

Fair enough, just came to see why, wont be happening for me this season just curious

[fast phoenix]

yeah garrote just pretty weak and not worth the gcd's sometimes

but dont always copy playstyles from someone at that high lvl of a key

[ocean quiver]

Wasn't planning on it, just curious as to why he wasn't that was all

[fast phoenix]

yeah not a bad question

rogue as usual just a question of opportunity cost

[ocean quiver]

Yeah, I've never really took the game too serious so just ran in and copied talents from top players and did keys as I only planned to get the portals unlocked and nothing more

but now I play the game a bit more serious trying to make sure I got everything on lock on the class i'm playing

[runic hinge]

He’s playing a build that takes like zero bleed talents

So he doesn’t care about spreading garrote

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor council fight looked very good

next time you shoot me a DM that you stream

[normal mist]

Guys i watched Kpop Demon Hunters, and i totally recommend it

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-zoey-kpop-demon-hunters-hyped-pumped-gif-16094993413223605623

[balmy condor]

if only there was some sort of like

[main bridge]

i heard that is a children's show. still watchable?

[balmy condor]

way to notify you

automatically

[hidden bay]

i cant have notifications on

[balmy condor]

when I was streaming

why not

[hidden bay]

i have around 500 pings a day

cant keep track

[normal mist]

I really enjoyed it, musics were really good, everything was really good

[main bridge]

nice

[balmy condor]

That sounds like not my problem

[normal mist]

But yeah the children's show part is good

[hidden bay]

i see how it is

i hate you from now on

😡

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-missed-part-where-thats-my-problem-gif-18535010

[fast phoenix]

"spoon feed me"

[indigo mulch]

2 first bosses is just constantly swapping, how are you supposed to play ds D:

[cerulean walrus]

Vanish

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-parker-im-gonna-put-some-dirt-on-you-eye-mad-gif-15750742

[indigo mulch]

Or they could just fix fatebound 😦

[cerulean walrus]

Or you could vanish

[indigo mulch]

Right, cause vanish is going to help you when the towers on the first boss doesn't actually reset your dn

[cerulean walrus]

Ambush

[runic hinge]

Double vanish in raid

[cerulean walrus]

Yuge

[red schooner]

Bleed build tier I'm calling it

[runic hinge]

Yeah you are

[cerulean walrus]

WOOOOOO

[ocean quiver]

myth hoc vs myth signet assuming hoc is better just because it always gives mastery?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

[ocean quiver]

Might try sneak my rogue in next week then

[waxen oyster]

Brother isnt your rogue like

[spice surge]

Theyre generally identical

[waxen oyster]

not even 670

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah his rogue is ratty AF lmao

[ocean quiver]

it's 670 rn

but

that's because I have shit gear

poo champ weapon

poo 2 champ trinkets

[waxen oyster]

Ok off to crest farm mines

with you

[ocean quiver]

i'm trying to get all my 12s done

so I can buy myth pace

but the last 4 groups

not even finish dungeon

[waxen oyster]

You can craft a cloak

and an offhand

[ocean quiver]

I don't think I can do off-hand

but I can do cloak

I just have no crests

so it'll be like 658

💀

[cerulean walrus]

There’s no cap bud

[ocean quiver]

infinite sparks?

[cerulean walrus]

You said no crests

[ocean quiver]

oh

[cerulean walrus]

[ocean quiver]

yeah

well

[waxen oyster]

We’ve had so many sparks

atp

[ocean quiver]

I had outlaw

so I think I got 2 crafted

or 1

idk

[waxen oyster]

so a singular spark on a wep

[ocean quiver]

and i've crafted

for assassin: weapon, ring, neck, wrist, helmet, (going to do cloak)

idk how many i'm even at/left over

I have 2 halfs in bag

[balmy condor]

Two crafted daggers and an outlaw weapon

[waxen oyster]

i’ve crafted 9 items

on my dh

[balmy condor]

No wonder you don’t have fucking sparks

[ocean quiver]

no

[balmy condor]

Throwing sparks in the dumpster for nothing

[ocean quiver]

I have 1 crafted dagger

1 crafted sword or mace whatever the outlaw one was

[balmy condor]

?

This is very clearly 2 crafted daggers no?

[ocean quiver]

very clearly not

[balmy condor]

wtf

[main bridge]

NOT BIS

[balmy condor]

They reused the icon?

Insane

[waxen oyster]

He only has 5 crafted items

in that SS

[main bridge]

yeah Blizzard never reuses icons

weird

[waxen oyster]

I have 9 crafted pieces on my dh

[ocean quiver]

so i'm behind

[waxen oyster]

so yeah you havent done content for your non caught up sparks

[ocean quiver]

by a lot

[balmy condor]

I mean they do but not same expac typically

[ocean quiver]

I cleared nearly full heroic this week

only got 1 half

[waxen oyster]

Idk

i got them weekly

Would not bring a rat alt to oab

esp in a guild where you arent on farm for months

[ocean quiver]

We killed it in like 4 pulls on a reclear

[waxen oyster]

So not 1

[ocean quiver]

we only killed it once before that

it'll do more damage than my boomie trust

that shit is tragic

[waxen oyster]

🧢

[ocean quiver]

got like 23 parse on it 💀

swear I legit had such bad dps

lemme c

[waxen oyster]

Boomy does more on oab

[ocean quiver]

not my boomie

im dog

[cerulean walrus]

We know

[ocean quiver]

here

big daddy oab parse

[ocean quiver]

you aint supposed to agree

what the helly

[waxen oyster]

676

what

[ocean quiver]

this was like

a month ago

but also

I was rocking champion mugzee

and heroic signet

[waxen oyster]

Man you realize

thats 1 ilvl

or 2

[ocean quiver]

and we still use the shitty ring

[ocean quiver]

well buddy

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I think our boomies were 679 on kill

[ocean quiver]

I was playing fire start of season

[waxen oyster]

🤨

whats that mean

[ocean quiver]

fire mage

I was playing that for the first part of season

[waxen oyster]

Its very easy to gear

[ocean quiver]

then started playing boomie so I was late to myth items

[waxen oyster]

so

[ocean quiver]

not when you kill mugzee like 9 times and don't see heroic jug drop once

so you stuck with champion version

[haughty flicker]

champ deez nuts

[ocean quiver]

I might've been using champion bandit too actually

[waxen oyster]

thats just 1 overall ilvl

[ocean quiver]

yeah so i'd be like 677

678 because of ring too

and I think I had like 2 myth items

idk if I can even see at that point

[waxen oyster]

no shot champ best in slots is better

[ocean quiver]

no the hoc

was simming slightly higher because of incarn being shorter cd

so was using that

[waxen oyster]

[ocean quiver]

stop making me angry rn

or else

https://tenor.com/view/meanie-cat-cat-meanie-cat-meanie-mean-cat-gif-10599680892698519833

[waxen oyster]

not myth priory?

[ocean quiver]

at the time we killed it

I only had 3 tokens

and as soon as he died I bought myth bis

do logs show what gear you had on during the kill

if so I can check after this dungeon

having to do 9s

for crests

[cerulean walrus]

Yes

[ocean quiver]

okay I check after this

[waxen oyster]

do 10s for vault slots

[ocean quiver]

can't get accepted

[waxen oyster]

Yeah low ilvl if it isnt your key

[ocean quiver]

here

[waxen oyster]

no jastor pov

[ocean quiver]

Yeah well

my character unlucky

so that's my low ilvl

[waxen oyster]

Do tw quest

[ocean quiver]

this was a month ago

when I killed bandit

that's what we talking about bruh

[waxen oyster]

Point still stands

gotta use every source

[ashen pecan]

fellas, if im only going to get hero raid at this point and prob the key trinkets

what am i getting?

with dinar

[waxen oyster]

pacemaker and signet if you dont just roll them in vaukt

[fast phoenix]

dont let em talk down to you, anything past 670 is null this late into season

(im 671 so im also delusional)

[ocean quiver]

why would it stand

[fast phoenix]

just outplay all those 680+ nerds

[ocean quiver]

my druid has heroic jastor already

what would doing box get me lmao

I don't need hero pieces on my dru

i'm like 682 or sum

[waxen oyster]

didnt buy myth jastor?

i got an hc one from vault then one from dungeon quest a week later

[ashen pecan]

10 k u

[ocean quiver]

not yet

[waxen oyster]

But yeah i would not bring a rat alt to mainraid

[fast phoenix]

if its on farm and high enough ilvl who cares

[main bridge]

what trinkets do i want to use on PTR?

[waxen oyster]

not 670

[fast phoenix]

660 is plenty

[waxen oyster]

not for late ce guilds

💀

[fast phoenix]

most the raid is 670-684, easily overgeared and compensates

[waxen oyster]

i mean you clearly havent done it

[fast phoenix]

ok

if you really think you need 670 for mythic this late into the season... your raid is either full of shitty players or theyre brand new to CE raiding

not necessary, not by any stretch of the imagination

[ocean quiver]

tru tho

[waxen oyster]

Why would you only be 670

on a char you take remotely serious

[ocean quiver]

I only started "seriously" playing it a few weeks ago

I was alting it as outlaw for fun

then want to main sin next season

[fast phoenix]

not everyone cares to spend hours maxing out to 684 ? lol

[ocean quiver]

my main aint even 684 lmao

[waxen oyster]

Most guilds dont allow poop alts in mainraid

outside of possible rerolls

[ocean quiver]

my guild will let me in bud

my rogue is a reroll

[fast phoenix]

sounds like a shitty guild, this late into the season that shouldnt remotely matter

[ocean quiver]

not playing boomie next season

this is my boomie

and it's my main

[waxen oyster]

arent you not even raiding

[fast phoenix]

unless youre selling runs in some capacity and need everyone fully geared for speed

[waxen oyster]

next tier

[ocean quiver]

Yeah

not gonna raid

[waxen oyster]

They have even less reason

[ocean quiver]

Not everyone is a nob tho

and will let me in

not like i'm leeching

I just need the kill

[fast phoenix]

guy acts like people still need gear from main raid lmao

[ocean quiver]

bandit only

[waxen oyster]

its kind of leeching but yeah

[ocean quiver]

the only thing my guild needs is myth jastor

because we only kill it once

[waxen oyster]

especially if its not an alt you’re good at

[royal lantern]

why do you act as if its normal to leech the raid lol

[ocean quiver]

not really, 670 more than enough lmao

[royal lantern]

like, ofc you get told no if its a very undergeared character you clearly didnt even bother playing

[waxen oyster]

mate the guilds that can do the raid at 670

[fast phoenix]

because its basically end of the season and most guilds are sunsetting or taking breaks?

[waxen oyster]

usually do 1-2 runs a week

of sales

[royal lantern]

lower then 670 is some "this character is not even max level for 3hours" shit

[fast phoenix]

you guys need to come down from 1% mountain, not that deep

[ocean quiver]

i'm only 670 because I have tons of champ gear still lol

reak

real

my ilvl will jump up when I can get myth pacemaker anyway and get a better weapon and cloak

[fast phoenix]

talking like its only few weeks into the new raid lol

[ocean quiver]

fr

[waxen oyster]

why do you always talk about champ gear

[fast phoenix]

not that black and white

[ocean quiver]

because it's dragging ilvl down?

[waxen oyster]

as if hero gear isnt infinitely farmable

and crests

[ocean quiver]

never said it wasn';t

the fact that my ilvl is low is because of champ gear?

if I had all hero my ilvl be way higher

[royal lantern]

mate, you said your character is 671 rn, maybe you should stop talking about gear in the first place

going "uhm, yes im heavy undergeared but who cares" is some weird af take

[ocean quiver]

guess it's illegal now to speak about my ilvl being 671

[waxen oyster]

you can literally get all hero gear

[ocean quiver]

I think you're out of touch with this whole convo

best to stay out

[waxen oyster]

its your own choice not to

[fast phoenix]

yeah this is a very weird elitist take

this late into a season that just increased ilvl caps lol

[royal lantern]

what is elitist about undersanding that a raid doesnt want a rat alt inside until it has some basic gearing done

[ocean quiver]

my guild will let me in?

like what are we talking about

"rat alt" lmao

[waxen oyster]

Yeah our healer geared his monk to 678 in 2 weeks

[ocean quiver]

670 is more than enough to kill 1 boss on mythic

[waxen oyster]

a month ago

[ocean quiver]

and he's unemployed

like gg

what you want me to say? give you a medal or sum lmao

[waxen oyster]

Nah just goes through like 10 redbulls a day

[drifting cloud]

you could have farmed enough crests for like 3 crafts while youve been complaining here

[ocean quiver]

I don't grind 15 hours a day getting max crests max ilvl in 2days

[drifting cloud]

unless youre on 0 sparks

[fast phoenix]

theres a sun outside and fresh grass, guys should check it out

[royal lantern]

average monk player

[ocean quiver]

I've been taken into 1 dungeon (also not complaining idk where you got that from)

[royal lantern]

thats what thunder focus tea actually is

[drifting cloud]

speedrun delves

[ocean quiver]

I'm good

[fast phoenix]

he hasnt complained once, theyve just taken an inch and ran a mile with it

[ocean quiver]

^

[drifting cloud]

yeah better to sit in lfg

[fast phoenix]

talking like its week 3 of the undermine raid or something

[drifting cloud]

so you can get ... crests at same rate

[waxen oyster]

i mean it is being a leech bringing a poop alt to one of the only actual bosses

with mechanics

[ocean quiver]

all I said was since myth hoc is better than myth signet, i'll try get my rogue into a bandit kill so I can buy hoc, and everyone crying like what

[ocean quiver]

maybe your guild struggle with 684's reclears this late into season

[fast phoenix]

they do

[ocean quiver]

but whatever the issue is you have, aint with me bud

[fast phoenix]

thats why theyre so paranoid

[ocean quiver]

Yeah seems it

Never seen someone so pressed before about getting an alt into a reclear lmfao?

[waxen oyster]

The main diff between signet and hoc is hoc gives more gearing flexibility

[ocean quiver]

We killed gallywix first time on Tuesday, Wednesday reset we killed bandit in 4 pulls? like it aint an issue for 1 character to be 670 lol

[waxen oyster]

while hoc mandates you keep your mastery at certain levels

[fast phoenix]

we used to bring alts for fun in raid sales all the time, completely irrelevant

[waxen oyster]

mate you arent doing sales

at 671

[fast phoenix]

you realize the games been out 20 years right?

[waxen oyster]

ok unc

[royal lantern]

what has that to do with the topic now

tf

[ocean quiver]

wasn't echo doing sales with 660 ilvl

[fast phoenix]

as if there hasnt been a dozen other seasons lmao

[fresh kelp]

i mean we play 2x buyers and let alts in that are as low as 670 sometimes

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[waxen oyster]

”back in my day”

[fresh kelp]

i dont think its a huge deal

[waxen oyster]

yeah but your guild’s also way higher

[ocean quiver]

"mate you arent doing sales at 671"

💀

[waxen oyster]

i dont think a just got ce guild can do alts

[ocean quiver]

famous words from Xiani

[royal lantern]

do you know who that guy even is

lmao

[ocean quiver]

More than capable

[fast phoenix]

guys in his first CE guild lol

[ocean quiver]

No lo

[royal lantern]

then shut the fuck up

[ocean quiver]

I'm the only person in the raid that has never had CE before this tier

[ocean quiver]

does it matter?

Does knowing him somehow change the outcome?

[royal lantern]

ofc a guy in the highest ends has different player standarts

like

bruh

[ocean quiver]

What lol

[fresh kelp]

fair enough i didnt read up much

[fast phoenix]

brain rot in living color at this point

[ocean quiver]

It's one bandit kill reclear that my rogue needs, we killed it in 4 pulls on wednesday

i'm sure me being 670 (higher by the time it happens) will not be an issue

1 guy

[waxen oyster]

Bandit is still one of the more real bosses this tier

[ocean quiver]

and yet we killed it for the first time in less pulls than mugzee and gallywix?

[fast phoenix]

i wouldnt even justify it or explain yourself

[ocean quiver]

Yeah he's either ragebaiting or just delusional

[drifting cloud]

bandit easier than stix or sprocket ngl

[waxen oyster]

stix is kind of a boss where one player being bad can wipe you

[fast phoenix]

100% ragebaiting, or this is their first season/expac in a CE/RWF guild so its gone to their head

[fresh kelp]

if you have an excess of spread cleave bandit is a target dummy

[royal lantern]

sprocket is the biggest wall this raid

have to pray every pull that the ranged move their asses out with drills instead of greeding for casts

[waxen oyster]

Ehh i feel at that level you have alot of greedy ranged

who dont move out

and cause wipes

[waxen oyster]

I honestly thought i was going to hear “the top guilds just play more”

[royal lantern]

no, they play better

i mean ofc they also play way more

but in a upper level HoF guild you will have somewhat less the ussual Raiding guild that has 5-8 good players and the rest being basically filler that need to be told that they should stack on the X marker on pull # 193

[waxen oyster]

Or dont step on a mine

at pull 100

[waxen oyster]

Tbh I find it funny when you get the new trial that after 1 night you get the vibe they’re gonna flunk

[hidden bay]

shadow ptr keys looking stronk

time to reroll!

[waxen oyster]

go boomy

[worn geyser]

I mean you never know how someone reacts \ adjusts to new environments it is extremely common for players to get nerves \ social anxiety when coming into a entirely new enviro

and you can start making mistakes you would never make otherwise

[waxen oyster]

Yeah most people cant just walk into a new place

But also theres some consistent shit that makes you go huh

[drifting cloud]

be careful they might get reworked again before ptr ends

[waxen oyster]

doesnt shadow get reworked every patch

its a meme

[worn geyser]

yea i mean sometimes u can just tell, like my only experience is running tryouts for cs but if someone is obviously really bad then unluicky

[waxen oyster]

Very few people can genuinely jump into a convo of established people

and act like nothings different

[worn geyser]

its a practiced skill tho, its why getting lan exposure in cs is really important too, the more u have to quickly adapt to that enviro then the better u get at adapting quickly

but ye idk most people play like 25% debuff first night

[waxen oyster]

Doesnt cs scene at the high end

get smaller and smaller the higher you go

[worn geyser]

yea but u still arent like buddy buddy with every1

[buoyant herald]

i feel like people also like...never discuss the responsibility of the guild/RL to be welcoming to trials rather than intimidating

[waxen oyster]

ig that might be one benefit where you arent 100% strangers potentially

[worn geyser]

and how people behave with different people in the team with you varies alot too, they might be pretty different to vibe with if you have diff teammates being more vocal

so i might know xiani from team xyz and think he plays great but when i combo him with other teammate spark i think is great then the outcome is different than just xiani by himself ya feel

[main bridge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
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LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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[waxen oyster]

good RLs often do tell you to ask any raid questions in your own thread or something

before/after

[waxen oyster]

I feel i had more nerves the first 1-2 tiers i started playing

[worn geyser]

my new raid lead got me confused for a different lucky in the guild and forgot to invite me to the first boss on my first night of trialing lmfao

[waxen oyster]

then it really just became an ask what x guild does different

for fights where this isnt a largely agreed upon “correct” strat

[lethal arrow]

need the guild built on vibes

[worn geyser]

you definitely get better at adapting , like ive played on a few diff teams but still usually the first week or so in CS i play like a bot compared to normal but less so as I joined more teams

[waxen oyster]

wdym guilds that the rl is one step from crashing out are perfectly stable

/s

[lethal arrow]

yeah if u join a guild and its pure silence for 3 hours

[waxen oyster]

Ironically one of my first guilds

and one of the better progged ones

[ocean quiver]

me because all arabic

and im english

[buoyant herald]

the hardest thing i find is feeling like youve got zero leeway for errors

[waxen oyster]

Yep

[lethal arrow]

youre allowed ur mistakes

just not too many of em

[buoyant herald]

i trialled with a guild this tier and watched regular guys pull boss by accident, die first phase of gally over and over

[waxen oyster]

Lowkey why i never liked joining guilds way more progged than me

[buoyant herald]

then get called out when i failed a mechanic first time i saw it lol

[waxen oyster]

or get more nerves

[worn geyser]

im ngl i kinda like that feeling cause i feel like it helps me to sharpen up

[lethal arrow]

its hard asf to join mid tier

tbh

[buoyant herald]

well i joined at the start of the tier

[waxen oyster]

It becomes funny because

[buoyant herald]

did okay

[waxen oyster]

i think im better at gally and mugzee

[buoyant herald]

but got benched for last 3 when GM rerolled rogue

[waxen oyster]

than i am at richard

[ocean quiver]

I joined on stix

first time mythic raid

well 2nd

[buoyant herald]

so had to prog during reclear

[waxen oyster]

like its weird when you sit an early boss for vaults

[worn geyser]

gm rolled rogue and u got benched thats crazy

[waxen oyster]

then never really progged it

I’ve never seen a rogue reroll tbh

[worn geyser]

thats how i feel on sprocket, but not because i got sat just due to coming late in the tier, idfk wtf is happening