assassination

[normal mist]

Tierlists

[waxen oyster]

im like one of the lowest belt damage specs

in our raid

so

[mortal wave]

wowhead archon and icyveins have such different lists that I'm confused

[brave comet]

thats not how it works

those tierlists are redundant

[waxen oyster]

i dony play boomy though unless i can payphone pressing starfall

for the whole fight

[normal mist]

Tier lists suck and they only exist so new YouTube videos / wowhead posts are made

[gloomy helm]

Archon has us at A tier too

[normal mist]

Archon also sucks

[gloomy helm]

So then is the real answer that Assass sucks? Lol

[brave comet]

yes

its very bad

[normal mist]

Sucks where?

[brave comet]

dont play it

[waxen oyster]

I mean we have really good aoe

[normal mist]

M+? Raid?

[mortal wave]

at least archon provides dps chart

[gloomy helm]

I'm a strict M+ player. I just can't play sub or outlaw because I have carpal tunnel so I have to retire the rogue when Assass is considered "bad"

[normal mist]

Damn

[fresh kelp]

its good

[normal mist]

You pushing 20s?

[waxen oyster]

sub isnt even that fastpaced

[gloomy helm]

17-18s currently

[waxen oyster]

outside of its 15s burst

[normal mist]

And yet you think assa rogue is bad?

[spice surge]

Sub is the slowest spec in the game outside of cds

[fresh kelp]

people doing 21s on assa spec is good

[waxen oyster]

burst for 15 then rip a bong till 90s cds are back

[gloomy helm]

@normal mist I jump classes a lot. Trying to get back into figuring out what I want to play every once in a while

[spice surge]

But it has a bunch of off-gcd buttons to press in cds

[mortal wave]

is there a tldr or some command that explains how bad is it to rip all garrotes and ruptures into same target in massive aoe

[spice surge]

So the overall apm is decently close to assa

[normal mist]

!ic

Hmm

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[waxen oyster]

honestly to me

the only genuinely super high apm spec

is outlaw

[normal mist]

We have rogues doing 21s and they are doing great, the belt didn't make or break anything

[waxen oyster]

go back to df prepatch outlaw where it was fr an over 100apm spec

[spice surge]

I mean if you measure it by APM sub is about the same speed as assa

So ye its definitely only outlaw thats high among the rogue specs, the others are very slow

[mortal wave]

are these rogues ripping bleeds into the same target in massive aoe is what matters to me(as a +8 pusher)

[waxen oyster]

i love being able to grapple every 5s

and cloak every 20

[normal mist]

Rogues doing 21s are most likely moving away from the bleed build

Into cleave//zeross build

[mortal wave]

other build doesn't have ic?

[normal mist]

I believe every build does

[gloomy helm]

Oh hey, just announced Charged Bolt getting nerfed by 62%

[normal mist]

If you're doing 8s, just garrote/rupture the same target 2/3 times and crimson tempest, pack will be dead soon anyway

[waxen oyster]

cleave build focuses on the fact ct is overtuned asf on multitarget

and spatter

[normal mist]

Unless your group is extremely gear starved

[normal mist]

Yeah, didn't last long xD

[gloomy helm]

Ye, not sure where Icy Veins is getting this from

[mortal wave]

of course it's enough to bleed one target in probably most levels, just want to know how not "perfectly" I'm playing 😄

[brittle shuttle]

u lose 1 extra bleed each time u send into same target

[waxen oyster]

they buffed vers proc by 50%

likely bis

[mortal wave]

if it's barely any difference I'd just continue going into same target

[normal mist]

You're losing 1 spread every time you garrote or rupture a target that is already bleeded

That's it

[mortal wave]

yeah I know but I'm wondering is it 1%/5% loss?

[brittle shuttle]

i cant be bothered to swap when im spreading bleeds and im at 3600 rn it isnt make or break by any means

[normal mist]

I doubt Seli wrote that

[mortal wave]

ok that's cool

[normal mist]

That must be those general articles

[hidden bay]

you know who wouldnt write such things?

Whispyr

i miss him

[waxen oyster]

People read icyveins in 2025?

[marsh ferry]

ChatGPT hallucinating?

[gloomy helm]

Written by Starym

It's a "general tier list update" post

[waxen oyster]

Who tf is that

[hidden bay]

either go here https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-easy-mode or here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps

[waxen oyster]

I need an article written by gromnak

[hidden bay]

dont go anywhere else

or read in this discord, here are only the best of the best rogues

@winged sun stop slacking

[red schooner]

I joined just to bring the average down a bit

[fallow canopy]

are you kicking me out?

[normal mist]

I'll be honest, just forget those tier lists, they offer nothing.
You're better off checking logs/raider.io/class discords than using tier lists as a reference

[hidden bay]

gaslight yourself into thinking that rogue is the best class in this game

dont need anything else

[dense flax]

why does rogue get a spot in phys comp still over hunter?

[pure moth]

Better cc/interupts is my guess? Plus hunters cant keep themselves alive.

[spice surge]

Its not like a strict thing

[cerulean walrus]

Because hunter stinky

[dense flax]

no but for the phys groups pushing 21s they're using warr, rogue, feral atm

was surprised they weren't using the old warr, rogue, hunter with the druid tank for buff

might have more to do with monk tank getting buffs tho than anything to do with rogue or hunter

[haughty flicker]

its just one of the best ways currently to get all the buffs you want

normally shaman healer for windfury

then you want some combo of monk/druid/war

so you just pick the best of each of those

[dense flax]

yeah that all makes sense but why the rogue?

[haughty flicker]

because outlaw pumps

[solemn echo]

They must got it from whomever yoinked Whispyrs account

[haughty flicker]

and assa but a lot are playing outlaw in that comp

mm is good but its not outlaw

and bm/sv are not good

[dense flax]

ah I see, just better dmg/survive than hunter, got yah

[spice surge]

Its a different set of people

Thats why

They like to play different things

[dense flax]

it's the same warrior I've been following since week one, haven't been paying attention if he changed team mates tho

[solemn echo]

Also outlaw/mm are just different profiles, it depends what the group wants needs

Explosive shot does nutty damage

[spice surge]

I think people are really overcooking trying to minmax their comp instead of just finding players that are good at playing their spec

[haughty flicker]

i dont need a good comp to farm transmog

real endgame

[solemn echo]

Super fair

I'd rather have a giga blaster off meta player than fotm reroller anyday

[dense flax]

I think most top tier teams have a few players that can flex

[versed mica]

Whispyr where's my FUCKING PIN

😇

[polar rampart]

i don't read pins anyway, it's more fun to ask

[somber sparrow]

Sadly the charged bolts getting nerfed by 62%. It was too good to last long

[bronze pike]

hes no longer with us.

[versed mica]

W-wait

Is this a joke???

[bronze pike]

he got h ackered again

idk how

[versed mica]

Bro 😭

[hollow river]

Same hack

They just retook it somehow

[versed mica]

Whispyr there is no Nigerian prince how many times do we have to tell you 😭😭

[hollow river]

[versed mica]

Jokes aside, I hope he gets his account back damn

[eager condor]

What we hitting without bolts now ?

[spice surge]

Crit

[versed mica]

I'm assuming the mastery one

[eager condor]

Crit or mastery I assume. Haste … sim?!

[jaunty sparrow]

charged bolt is dumpstered on next reset lol

[versed mica]

I don't think sims reflect the changes yet

Changes were just announced 2 hours ago, prolly haven't had time to update things yet

[spice surge]

The general simc wont be updated until it goes live

[eager condor]

I don’t raid again till Tues I’m sure someone smarter will figure - but I’d guess master or crit yeah

[bronze pike]

last update i saw

was woli trying to help him

[jaunty sparrow]

guess I'd better do my last 8mask run before charged bolt gets dumpstered on tuesday

finished org already just gotta do stormwind

[spice surge]

I mean the bolts arent great in aoe anyway

[jaunty sparrow]

aoe everything dies fast, it's always 1 or 2 dangerous stragglers that screw me over

or bosses

[keen spruce]

@humble verge

spotted at the world series of poker

a few days ago

[thorn thorn]

👀

[humble verge]

wait worng

[keen spruce]

good enough for 3rd place in that tournament

[stark halo]

so instead of charged bolt do we default to Electric Current after reset?

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nehuyaneponyal-gif-15660627897541399471

Opening sin chat like

[vestal wren]

You can sim it

override.spell_data=effect.1232881.coefficient=0.3424
override.spell_data=effect.1232886.coefficient=0.1505
override.spell_data=effect.1232963.coefficient=52.9531```

[fast phoenix]

guild is hanging it up until season 3... right when we were just about to do one arm pulls, womp womp

[humble verge]

yeah, oab would make your guild disband tho

[fast phoenix]

nah its mostly RL friend group

wasnt even supposed to go into mythic so its all good is what it is

[coral ibex]

yea my RL friend group had a guild that was reaching beyond the content it was capable of and now half of them dont speak to the other half, a 2 page manifesto was written, and the guild is long dead

[haughty flicker]

Based

Always need a good donezo manifesto

[thorn thorn]

2 pages

[somber sparrow]

our guild just did vexie on mythic. check out our incredible logs lol https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x9QfgjchqGVr18KL?fight=last&type=damage-done And I was only 29 percentile for my ilvl, so not really that great haha. But it's a feat for us, we're mostly friends in real life or people who know the guild leader in real life. We've made a "how we're related" graphic before of how we were invited to the guild

[humble verge]

whar

[fast phoenix]

yeah they only care about AOTC not mythic, so was new for them to even step into mythic, took some convincing on my end

[hidden bay]

then its time for you to look for a new guild

clearly they do not have the same ambitions as you have

leave em!!!!!!

[fast phoenix]

thats usually what i do and they suck me back in like black tar

but works out, too much of time commitment for most mythic guilds

[runic hinge]

Can you link

[split veldt]

can whispyr stop having a life, i need the pins to tell me how to feel about this belt nerf

😭

[polar rampart]

yeah, he picked a bad time to have his account compromised

[split veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-really-skeptical-surprised-impressed-gif-4317894190384967926

[coral ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024102972269002812/1286101901292863538/U3V7FRh.png?ex=68573bbb&is=6855ea3b&hm=ca93c1b272d0d8a898e30202159fd83aaec9f98b4b94dcd23fe6e230669504a5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=769&height=1064

this is not all of it

the context is mythic castle nathria

[haughty flicker]

Brother plotting a coup instead of just leaving and making their own guild with the people who felt the same

Lmao

[viscid spear]

Got kicked from a Freehold for suggesting we just head straight to Harlan

Gave me the 30min Deserter debuff too, so that's a kick in the pants

[royal python]

Any changes to built priority after bolt nerf ?

[novel star]

idfk just sim it when the patch drops

[fallen forge]

This is the best thing I read in a while

[runic hinge]

This is unhinged. I love it

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-will-ferrell-beautiful-its-beautiful-wonderful-gif-3547414

[frozen glacier]

what in tarnation did i just read

[royal lantern]

i open it and the first thing my eyes see is "poll manipulation"

🍿

[gritty laurel]

i wish someone would manipulate my poll

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats often the reality of guilds that try to get into mythic but dont commit into it

heroic->mythic is a HUGE jump for everyone involved if you dont want to spend 6+ months of progression nonstop, a good chunk of people think they can do it->try it out->it falls appart

is why guild hopping is sadly somewhat common for mythic raiding, cus you want to get a group that actually is able o actually play on that level and not fall appart the first time they have one and a half week of progress on a single boss + no loot because of that

[thorn thorn]

[keen spruce]

"good job on AOTC guys, anyone want to JUST do the first 1-2 bosses of mythic for some loot upgrades? just for fun ofc?"

[thorn thorn]

It always starts with the first 1-2 bosses

[keen spruce]

went through 2-3 of those before joining an actual mythic guild

[fast phoenix]

exact words i used to lure them in

[keen spruce]

actually I ran one of those

[keen spruce]

well every AOTC guild has the following:

• about 33% of people that aren't even good enough for AOTC that got dragged through the raid kicking and screaming (these are the ones that won't leave)
• 3-4 players that could probably play in some level of mythic guild (or think they can) and leave as soon as they have a single mythic parse to put on an app
• 1/3 of the people that would be good enough to learn to play in a mid-mythic guild but have 0% interest in ever setting foot in mythic and will likely quit if mythic becomes the norm
• 2-3 officers making all of it happen, half of them will quit when the exodus starts

in my experience

then you're left with a not-even-AOTC guild full of shitters civillians for-fun players

[thorn thorn]

If you base it off of the character I ran with my guild to try and get them to aotc (a very undergeared shaman) I am very far from aotc level

But honestly i have nfi how to play shaman

I just played it so we would have skyfury and the max hp buff from rsham on gally

[keen spruce]

elemental shaman, the gentleman's spec

I moonlight as a warlock sometimes

https://tenor.com/view/sometimes-maybe-good-maybe-shit-gif-15610659

[fast phoenix]

yeah pretty much hit the nail on the head with that, raise that # to probably 40% and its perfect

i dont mind it though, its a nice slower change of pace from regular mythic group.

actually co-lead a RWF guild for several years so anything is better than that, basically ful time job

[keen spruce]

Late tier CE and pure AOTC are the most fun I’ve had raiding

But I never tried to do HoF cuz I’m pretty Dookey at everything besides assas

[buoyant herald]

pure aotc has a place i think, but man the 4 or 5/8M guilds that hit a wall and quit every tier are brutal

[humble verge]

noob

(i am also noob)

[haughty flicker]

i too have never tried HoF because shmeeps is dookey at everything

[humble verge]

i just wanna boost 6/8

ffs

reeee

but this cocksukka wont answer me in DMs

[fast phoenix]

yeah i may try and find a group to kill one arm and mugzee

[thorn thorn]

Pure AOTC guilds are just chaos unleashed

[thorn thorn]

More boost trouble hmmmm

[humble verge]

nah but like

he said i could get in

since im not a rem

and got a brain

im just trying to know when he does boosts

so my ID doesnt go to waste

[misty holly]

Will Critical Chain or Static Charge be worth using next week after the buffs?

[snow hamlet]

yes you can sim it yourself

see fuu's pin in sub channel

[viscid spear]

Thankfully no more Charged Bolts

Having to spam the button to make sure it cancels the aura before it pulls another group was tasking

[misty holly]

I wonder if there is any Static Charge gameplay optimization we could do considering the effect falls off the more abilities you press.

Like wait for a proc and then hold for max effect.

What about when static charge procs you press vanish to also get the +20% crit boost while waiting. Stacking buffs is good, right?

[spice surge]

Last i checked some of the dots triggered it anyway even if you wait

[misty holly]

dots can trigger a proc, but surely they don't also trigger the -5% thing. that would be messed up.

[spice surge]

They do

But it also doesnt really matter, the spec is envenom now anyway

[snow hamlet]

Do you mean it will decay a stack every 0.75 seconds?

[spice surge]

So not casting means no envenoms

[misty holly]

Critical Chain it is then lol

[viscid spear]

Just did a dunegon with it, quite nice imo

[ocean quiver]

Question

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rtE48aDbPmgFtCb6y98zww

Worth wasting the crests and stones to use the dagger?

Or just wait until I get a better one

[hidden bay]

Offhand irrelevant

Upgrade your trinkets

[ocean quiver]

Trinkets only champ*

[wide gorge]

upgrade ur hero magnet

[ocean quiver]

[hidden bay]

Focus on getting most dps outside of upgrading offhand to finish all keys on 12 if possible

[ocean quiver]

Planning on getting it to all 12s but perma decline

but once I do, myth trinkets insta

[hidden bay]

Run heroic raid, run +10 for hero trinket, pretty sure you get my point

[ocean quiver]

Yeah

[hidden bay]

Run priory/floodgate till you have em from +10

[thorn thorn]

[ocean quiver]

My plan was to just try push 12s asap, then buy the myth versions, as I don't need to buy jastor anymore as got in vault

and nothing else worth taking

[candid basin]

hello guys, lil update from my build change, from hybrid to bleeds at low keystones 7-11:

It's been way better

there's only one thing I still can't manage to do

energy management

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[candid basin]

i feel I'm just wasting it, and I'm currently going out of energy, any advice?

[ocean quiver]

in packs?

[candid basin]

not with packs

but

i'm below 50% in packs

sanguine blades don't work

with bosses is way worse, awful

I don't rly know how to not spam haha

like, in what moments can I stop spammin

[ocean quiver]

in 7s?

[candid basin]

7-11

[ocean quiver]

How you dropping below 50% in packs?

[candid basin]

man, that's why I'm asking

[ocean quiver]

this was my overall in 11 rookery

3.46m

[candid basin]

this is my first character ever

[ocean quiver]

I aint the greatest but

I think you just godda spam less? like slower

I think it's called pooling or something

[late ravine]

^^

[candid basin]

dude you're not helping, you're just flexing

thank u, I'll ask somewhere else

[glad swallow]

Rupture needs to be on all targets, this is what gives the most energy regen. Also making sure you're not letting thistle pop automatically, if you don't have enough energy and press a button thistle will consume and you might not want it to.

[thorn thorn]

By packs do you mean 4 or more targets

[candid basin]

so I need to change target when I'm out of the stealth buff?

[thorn thorn]

Do you have a log

[ashen totem]

no, you can just mouseover rupture

[ocean quiver]

??? what flex im showing the breakdown diff between ours

[keen spruce]

Packs should never live long enough at that key level to need to reapply rupture

But yes

If you’re in that situation where bleeds are dropping

You need to reapply manually or use vanish to get IC up again

Your breakdown is a little odd. Are you getting bleeds on ~all of of the targets in a pack?

Or are you following a static opener

[candid basin]

i guess static opener

Like, I apply my bleeds right after I get out from stealth

[glad swallow]

Do you use weak auras or platers to make sure all targets have bleed?

[candid basin]

I use a plater

[keen spruce]

So like on a 5 pack, you’ll only need to cast 2 garrotes and 2 ruptures. But if it’s like 10 mobs you need at least 3 of each

[candid basin]

I don't know what wa helps with that

[keen spruce]

Need to be a little flexible with you opener

To make sure you’re getting bleeds on as much stuff as possible

[candid basin]

I always apply only 2

[keen spruce]

Ye that’s often not enough

[thick basin]

I'm general, what's more important priority once bleeds are placed? idling at >50 energy, or moving to envenom caustic spam?

[candid basin]

the third one should be on a target that has not been apply on right?

[keen spruce]

Ideally yeah but it kind of depends

[thorn thorn]

In aoe you wanna spread as many garrotes and ruptures as you can with IC

[tawdry root]

If you’re in a big pack and only put up 5 ruptures, those adds might die and the remaining adds don’t have bleeds on, which slows your energy regen

[keen spruce]

Like 5 targets you can just ic off the main target

But 6 you technically should hit different ones

That’s not an enormous deal though

You can do title range keys just hitting the main target

But just make sure you’re getting garrotes and ruptures on as much stuff as possible

[candid basin]

what weak aura helps me with bleeds'

[keen spruce]

A good player profile is the best

[tawdry root]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

The envenom buff is not something you really track or care about

[keen spruce]

So it shows it on the nameplates

[candid basin]

I have only luxtho's group

[spice surge]

And for the most part staying over 50% can be ignored, its very niche and a small gain but its easy to tunnel too hard on it and lose damage

[tawdry root]

Some WAs track the number of ruptures you have up (or scent of blood stacks)

[glad swallow]

the WA should give you a number of targets with rupture

[keen spruce]

Grab one of those plater profiles

[tawdry root]

In my plater profile, I went to buff tracking and made it so the only tracked buffs on enemy plates are rupture/garrote/CT

[keen spruce]

Cevs and whispyr’s are both good

[spice surge]

(since the only time staying above 50% purposefully is a gain is outside darkest night, outside cds and when all of your bleeds are up)

[thick basin]

I notice a lot in smaller packs, 2-4 mobs, once I put down my bleeds, when I move to spamming knives and envenom, I'm often under 50 percent energy. In those cases should I just chill and let the bleeds do the work?

[spice surge]

No

[thick basin]

Oh ok. That's makes sense then.

[spice surge]

But also 4 targets is more than enough for infinite energy

[thick basin]

Yeah it happens most on small packs. Think final pull of flood gate.

[glad swallow]

you are throwing in a mutilate to keep spatter up tho right

[thick basin]

Yes. Splatter always up.

[tawdry root]

the 2 lightning hobgoblins? 2 target might make you a bit energy starved yeah

[spice surge]

Keep bleeds up, hit envenom

[glad swallow]

^this is the way

[keen spruce]

And DN

And spatter

[oblique sorrel]

di you guys have an auto tank md?

[thick basin]

I'm glad to not have to worry about energy over 50. That's a good answer to hear lol

[spice surge]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[keen spruce]

Yeah

[oblique sorrel]

does it need a wa?

[keen spruce]

That one that eleem linked very gud

Yeah

[spice surge]

Its a WA

[keen spruce]

Wa is linked

[spice surge]

That needs a macro

[oblique sorrel]

/wa

woops

ty btw

mines stopped working

[foggy jasper]

Anyone know the spell id of the debuff Shiv applies to target?

Doesnt seem to be 319504 or 424800

[trim plume]

5938

[ocean quiver]

So i'm currently 5 dungeons from having all 12s, I have not spent my tokens yet. This is my character, I have 111 guilded crests, is it worth upgrading my hero stuff now because I have nothing else to upgrade? or wait until I can buy myth trinkets and max them both. Only myth item I have rn is the boots

[coral ibex]

i think you should be crafting all non-tier slots to be gilded

oh ur basically there

craft boots and start praying for myth armor in tier slots

to catalyze

[main bridge]

top gear can tell you what to upgrade too

[ocean quiver]

I have myth boots right now

but they are haste mastery

[ocean quiver]

basically crafted all the pieces I had low ilvl on and upgraded them

was thinking of doing cloak 681

as I have champion haste mastery

[ocean quiver]

Idk how to really sim stuff like that tho

[main bridge]

droptimizer can do it also

[runic hinge]

good stats

[ocean quiver]

Yeah for crafted items

Might craft claok tbf

[ocean quiver]

Sweet so I got decent boots then

I should be able to get all 12s done tomorrow maybe

[runic hinge]

the thing is, all stats are good right? and if you think you have too much of something like it's gonna proc your signet wrong you can just recraft some crafted pieces and it's fine, but generally anything is myth its good

[ocean quiver]

Ah sweet perfect then

[sick radish]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[zenith elm]

versatility isnt THAT good in ST, but it gets better in dungeon than in raid

[runic hinge]

it's also not that bad

[ancient rain]

For anyone that might care, I turned ReBar on in nvidia profile inspector and my fps in Dorongal went from ~80 to ~95. Needs to be enabled in both bios and nvidiaProfileInspector for this to work. Writing here because assa is the best rogue

[burnt juniper]

any of you nerds know if the DS tier buffs DN

[zenith elm]

It doesnt

oh wait

shit it does

just use it at 1 stacks

[warm vortex]

Rare sighting of Graham outside sub!!!

[burnt juniper]

IM SORRY

be nice to me, i'm not in here much

(or abuse me, either or)

[warm vortex]

Tbh me neither at this point

I’m most likely rolling BM or SV next tier

[burnt juniper]

the sub trickster tier set looks dope af, so i'm excited to play around with that

[warm vortex]

If it works

[spice spire]

Dead to me

[ripe bobcat]

I have to say: Rogue feels good on ptr!

[old lily]

i feel like the tier bonus is kinda meh

is that just me

[grim palm]

Any modification on belt for next week as the bis effect is getting a nerf

[normal mist]

TBD

[lavish hazel]

hello with belt nerf what do we play

still charged bolt for st ?

[red schooner]

Apparently you can sim it with some overwrites, I'm going to try it now assuming I don't somehow break it

I sent the sim with belt at 691 ilvl, I got the following - this is using charged bolts as the baseline -

Critical chain - +1.0%
Spark Burst - +1.0%
Electric current - +0.9%
Static charge - +0.7%
Charged touch - -1.1%
Energy shield - -2.1%
Cauterising bolts - -2.2%

Keep in mind, I eat glue, I have probably fucked something up

So take these numbers with a VERY big pinch of salt.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9mYEzfhGteYZ4Hs9RbeX4o idk if someone who knows how simc works wants to double check this, but ye

This is also just patchwerk, not tried it in dslice.

[static glacier]

generally sounds like stats will be the way to go

[ripe bobcat]

I was skeptical but the CD reduktion is cool. And the longer shiv is insane in the dungeons

with bleedbuild

[static glacier]

instead of this annoying stealth breaking dmg proc

[solemn echo]

I forgot to take it off while running thru ptr questline

Just kept pulling xd

[zenith elm]

i also eat glue, i cant complain

[warm vortex]

Implying you ever treated me better in the first place

[zenith elm]

can you launch dungeons in ptr in M0?

[atomic bison]

when does the bleed build start falling off compared to the kingsbane cleave one?

[prime hull]

whats this?

[prime hull]

i switched at +18

[solemn echo]

Kinda depends on comp too, but as John said I see a lot of people swap 18/19

[civic imp]

for the PTR learning assassin for first time: "This effect retroactively reduces the CD, and with the new set bonus you are guaranteed a 7-flip in your opener, so this is not RNG at all." What does my opener look like to pull this off? Do I need to be spec'd into cold blood?

[hidden bay]

yes

[hidden bay]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#raid-build-fatebound

!coldblood

theres somewhere a command here for macro

to use Kingsbane and Cold Blood together

[serene mason]

Did we ever blame Poison Bomb for being at a higher visual layer than ground effects?

cant see shit on the ground

[civic imp]

!kingsbane

hmm

[civic imp]

ty for the link

[hidden bay]

its just

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

[civic imp]

is the reason for vanish in the opening for Double Jeopardy? or to reapply garrote in KB window? or both?

[hidden bay]

yes, you want to vanish before your second envenom in full cds

Vanish for Edge Case instead, but still apply your Improved Garrote

[civic imp]

stupid question: I read that, but Edge Case reads as: Deathmark flips a fatebound coin and causes it to land on edge heads and tails" which I understand that part, but not how that's related to vanish

[hidden bay]

it gives you coins of both

in case you were unlucky before

just go to a training dummy and test it you will understand

[civic imp]

okay 😄 sorry for all the questions, I appreciate the answers tho

[hexed frost]

I hate Envenom: The Game but 3M DSM and 20M Envenom in keys just hits different

[maiden sierra]

@humble verge do you have a weakaura that has 1 of your meme characters dancing when lust is up?

[humble verge]

no, i should make one tho

or figure out how to make one

[maiden sierra]

hit me up when you make one

[steel shadow]

What’s this for

Kb cb

New tech?

[waxen oyster]

ngl

im tempted to spam report tanks who "chain" pull at 10%

[pliant remnant]

People jorkin' their shit over Fatebound for next patch I think

[scarlet orbit]

Its just used for fatebound. Since that hero talent existed. But that hero talent did no one touch for longer then a few trys

[waxen oyster]

fatebound might not even be better

if you need a 1.5min spec sub exists

[runic hinge]

If it stays unchanged it will only be better in full single target. Even then tho who knows. Probably depends on fight timers

[ocean laurel]

Yo, its posible to leave mugzee earth soak with ss?

[waxen oyster]

no only velf

you shouldnt even be in gaols to begin with

[red schooner]

Yes but the timing is like... 0.1seconds left or something wild.

So it ain't worth risking it

[waxen oyster]

Just wipe if you get the gaol on you

"accident"

[ocean laurel]

sounds like challange for me 😄 but gonna have to talk with rl 😄

[gray raven]

Is whispyr still in the cyber gulag?

[waxen oyster]

rogue shouldnt be assigned gaols anyway

[red schooner]

Nah, cos if you fuck it the pulls dead

Just accept the gaol time

[royal lantern]

who is whispyr

[lunar gorge]

Is there anyone that could possibly help me with logs? I feel like i'm really messing something up ❤️

[humble verge]

ok im making one @maiden sierra idk if itll actually work tho

since im doing the pre-work with GIF-TGA and mp3 downloading

[shy creek]

Yes, what do you need?

[runic hinge]

some german twink who got banned

[jaunty lotus]

I expected him to make a third account

[haughty flicker]

he got banned irl

[native turret]

Can someone post whispyr lore? Like what exactly happened. All his second account posts got deleted?

[haughty flicker]

he got got

got it back

then got regot

[solemn echo]

He got phished, into installing a fake game

[native turret]

Hacked?

Lmao

[haughty flicker]

he definitely had a virus

[native turret]

No way he fell for that my boy

[haughty flicker]

well it was apparently someone he knew irl

[native turret]

My brother in Christ why

[solemn echo]

The game put a UEFI rootkit in his PC which is a pita to get rid of and didn't know it

[haughty flicker]

so its a bit more social engineering and a bit less nigerian prince

[solemn echo]

That's nuts

[native turret]

Yeah that happened to my friend and we all said fuck no you don't program games and blocked him

[haughty flicker]

also it wasnt a game that got him, thats the scam the compromised account was using on others

[solemn echo]

So due to the rootkit after he got his shit back they got his new deets and the alt account lmao

[solemn echo]

Ahhh

[native turret]

He didn't clean wipe??

Rough

[solemn echo]

Not sure if a clean wipe deals with the firmware

[haughty flicker]

im told he was in the middle of doing that when it got jacked again

[solemn echo]

F

[native turret]

If you factory reset it should for phone, otherwise PC clean install should as well

[static glacier]

hacker is orange parsing on whispyr

[haughty flicker]

important lesson to never talk to people irl

[solemn echo]

LMAO

[native turret]

Never make friends

Don't even trust yourself

[solemn echo]

The real twist, he is using hekili

[native turret]

One button rotation weak aura

[royal lantern]

it was not a game

it was a irl person he knew messaging him with his first Name and a link saying "yo, somebody made a 3D render of my Paladin"

[red schooner]

Good advice. I am well aware of my own fuckwittery

[royal lantern]

which is like

belivable af

[red schooner]

Yeah, can't really say Whispyr was being dumb with that one, someone he knows using info that that person would know.

[solemn echo]

So was the friend the culprit or was he compromised

[native turret]

I didn't say it was a game just replying to ppl but good to know

[haughty flicker]

still disappointed the goat got got by a paladin

[royal lantern]

who knows

[native turret]

What is whispyrs name

[royal lantern]

found the hackerman

[native turret]

Tell me he a Dave

[haughty flicker]

its john

john blizzard

[native turret]

John blizzard

[royal lantern]

no its John WoWhead

[solemn echo]

Not John again

[haughty flicker]

john blizzard and john wowhead have always been one and the same

wake up sheeple

the shadow government is here

[royal lantern]

thats why they get another rework?

[native turret]

Well I miss whispyr hope he gets it sorted out

[haughty flicker]

honey its time for your annual spriest rework

yes dear

[native turret]

In the mean time anyone wanna look at this render of my entropy demon hunter

[main bridge]

as long as it's a zip file because my hd is filled with high-resolution naked paladins

[runic hinge]

if only it was exciting

[native turret]

I zipped it to save you space

[main bridge]

whew thanks

[native turret]

Password is muffin

[haughty flicker]

idk 2 shadow crash charges goes hard by itself

i didnt even look at the rest

that was enough for me

[native turret]

Muffin has his own emote

What a gamer

Orange parsing discord

[humble verge]

man

this shit is getting advanced

wait

did whispyr get his acc back

adn then lose it again

[hidden bay]

Yes

[humble verge]

lmao

[humble verge]

@maiden sierra i got the gif to work, but i have no sound lmao

[maiden sierra]

extract sound from the video and add it as a seperate file

[humble verge]

im following this https://wago.io/IAp4TEoHH

but it doesnt seem to work

the guide

ive added an extra folder in interface, added the MP3 file and then also pathed it to the sound

it doesnt seem like the sound is working tho

i am trying something now with sharedmedia but idk if itll work

gonna relog and try again on my shaman

and see if sound pops or not

because the trigger is pretty much there

idk what else i could be doing

[worthy timber]

Are we still wanting the charged bolts on the disco belt with the upcoming 62% nerf?

[humble verge]

no idea

[coral ibex]

sim it

[red schooner]

I sent the sim with belt at 691 ilvl, I got the following - this is using charged bolts as the baseline -

Critical chain - +1.0%
Spark Burst - +1.0%
Electric current - +0.9%
Static charge - +0.7%
Charged touch - -1.1%
Energy shield - -2.1%
Cauterising bolts - -2.2%

Bare in mind, I am an idiot with limited simc understanding

So

The numbers may be completely fuckin' off

[main bridge]

you are simming with current values?

[red schooner]

Updated

[fallow canopy]

Did you close the game and opened it again after copying the files?

[humble verge]

yes

[red schooner]

There were overwrites in the sub pins

So I yoinked them

[prime hull]

assa life

[red schooner]

If I yoinked them correctly is an entire different natter, because, I'm dumb

[humble verge]

hehe, u havent seen mine

[runic hinge]

That’s just solo dps life

[red schooner]

But I tried to help and that's all I can offer

[prime hull]

i thought invites would be better with archon addon but i have timed 5 18s and still cant get into an 18 in pugs

[solemn echo]

Oh what tracks that lol, wish I had that last season oml

[prime hull]

When most people apply to my key they are blue logging hc, im always happy to take ppl with better logs if they are 50 io under some other guy who green log mythic

but im surprised it doesnt seem to help me much, i guess m+ players rly dont care

[solemn echo]

Remember going a full hour without an invite at some point haha

[humble verge]

most of this is last tier

[prime hull]

how can i see this

[humble verge]

when i was doing 16/17s

[prime hull]

the character lifetime view

[humble verge]

it should show all?

[prime hull]

mine only shows current session

[humble verge]

hm idk

ive had it like that since the beginning

wait

im fucking stupid

no wonder the sound didnt come, the sound channel is on music, when i have music off 😭

[solemn echo]

LMAO

[waxen oyster]

m+ andys with like

full green logs are

a special type of ego

[humble verge]

i do hope, turning on the music itll work but

[solemn echo]

Yeah I don't trust them

[humble verge]

cant be hopeful lmao

[waxen oyster]

even when i play like shit on alts

i can at least blue in hc

[solemn echo]

I think there is a way to change the output channel

[waxen oyster]

how tf do you consistently get green

[humble verge]

yea i did change it to sound effects

[solemn echo]

Green in heroic is particularly something LMAO

[humble verge]

ill try and see if that works on my evo

[prime hull]

yeah

my shit alt is purple

idk

[humble verge]

IT FUCKING WORKS

😭

[solemn echo]

Nice!

[humble verge]

HAHAHAHHA

this is so good

i think i should make the gif the whole screen

and make it opaque

lmao

this will look so scuffed

😭

[solemn echo]

LMAO who needs to see

[maiden sierra]

YOOOOOOOO, LINK

[humble verge]

heres the WA export, and the .ogg file with the song i used lol

you do have to do something like this tho

going into the wow and then retail folder

to add the folder and the .ogg file

and it SHOULD work

i think

its kinda scuffed

but theres that

[maiden sierra]

God bless

keeping this on next tier mythic prog

[humble verge]

idk if i should cover more lmao

[maiden sierra]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[maiden sierra]

i think this needs to be added to this list fr

[humble verge]

but hmm

would need to upload it

and add it with the .ogg file somehow

thats what im trying to find out how

or i just add the sound as a google drive file in the weakaura and you download it from there

:3

[ancient tangle]

the spatter dmg is affected by singular focus no ? it is "redirected" (5%) on the main target isn't it ?

[zenith elm]

I think so, never looked at it but i think so

[solemn echo]

Whose that last plater?

[humble verge]

honestly, this shit is gonna look so funny when i start using warcraftrecorder for all the fights too next tier 😭

we have like 4-5 people using it including the RL

[maiden sierra]

[humble verge]

could also make this into the BL wa lol

just loop the video so it hits 40s

[summer cape]

After the belt nerf for charged bolts, still worth using or better to change it?

[coral ibex]

its an impossible question to answer, who knows

[brittle shuttle]

nerf not active til next reset, its prob mastery buff after tho

[coral ibex]

consult your dreams for the numbers

[summer cape]

Yeah a friend told me that it was already activee 😐

[waxen oyster]

I saw a guy trying to play cleave build in an 11

the fuck

[solemn echo]

It's what all the pros are playing it's gotta be the correct choice

[waxen oyster]

pros?

damn people get paid to play this game?

[solemn echo]

Or he's tired of the tank chain pulling and has given up

[waxen oyster]

Pov winning mdi makes you less than working at mcdonalds

in terms of time spent to money made

[main bridge]

people in the MDI probably work a lot more than the average job too

just from practicing and stuff

[waxen oyster]

No you just rage at the tank

till they learn

or leave

either or

[main bridge]

but tbf they probably do get a lot of interest in their channels from being in the MDI

[waxen oyster]

Ok let’s be real here, wow is a terrible game if you want twitch views

Look at wow stream views vs league

[main bridge]

yeah probably

[waxen oyster]

you just watch rwf to watch firedup do some goofy shit

and ig next tier discount firedup too

[main bridge]

i miss when we used to see goofy shit in the MDI

now it's all the same with little innovation

[solemn echo]

Aye 😦

[main bridge]

which is not really the fault of the players, blizz just rejects everything since the plagueborer incident

[waxen oyster]

You mean

to watch echo win

every tourney

[midnight mist]

We had the crazy dh snaps in df

Remember fall of the infinite

Or I think it was rise

Where they did that crazy tp thing

And then reused the idea in that old dungeon

The tower thing

Or whatever

[solemn echo]

Brh?

[midnight mist]

Ye

[shy creek]

did you see ToP mei that shit was insane

[midnight mist]

Ye true

Even the Ml routes were super cool

[solemn echo]

Busting out the old ToP tech was great

[wet spire]

except rwf kek

also isnt most of gingis team on method now?

[waxen oyster]

same diff

[wet spire]

the funniest thing is about the eu vs na hate for each team is its a competition of who has the biggest nerds on their team lol

whoever wins gets to be the champion of the nerds for a year lol

guess that applies to any sport really

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

[thorn thorn]

What is this lol

[humble verge]

@maiden sierra asked me to make a WA of one of the MP4s

[waxen oyster]

I swear

[humble verge]

i used one of the sillier ones

[waxen oyster]

short people on public transit are a hazard

[humble verge]

and then its activated when you BL

[waxen oyster]

i cant see them in direct view

[thorn thorn]

If you want shaman WA I got shaman WA

[humble verge]

no its universal WA for any bloodlust effect lol

you see that i rpess on bloodlust

[royal lantern]

i saw guys playing it in frking timewalking dungeons with lvl 68 characters

[waxen oyster]

doesnt that block view

[humble verge]

intentionally

[royal lantern]

people just mindlessly copypaste those fucking 3rd party scraping websites

[humble verge]

its silly

:3

[royal lantern]

its insane

[waxen oyster]

wtf

[main bridge]

b-but TOP ROGUES

[royal lantern]

a mindblowing amount of players chose talents by copypasting the #1 r.io and thats it

no thought involved

[waxen oyster]

i hate m+ rats

[thorn thorn]

Data collection websites for wow have caused cataclysmic brain damage to the playerbase

[main bridge]

i'm a green parsing m+ rat

[spice surge]

I looked at the top feral builds and saw it was the same as the guides except it had one less button, so thats an easy choice right there

[royal lantern]

like, when i did a +7 on a new character, and there is a assa rogue that plays the cleave build while at the same time is using instant poison and doesnt understand why its wrong

i love data collection sites

[waxen oyster]

instant

[royal lantern]

🙂

[thorn thorn]

instant poison

Hot take but importing talent builds was also a mistake feature

Cuz if he read literally the first 4 talents sin gets he would never touch instant poison

[main bridge]

i don't think importing is really the problem

[royal lantern]

i still think that deadly poison should replace instant poison, just to save the not-so-smart people from themself

[haughty flicker]

they wouldnt read the talents anyway

they'd look at a picture and click icons

[royal lantern]

and just add instant poison back in when you grab DTB or something like that

[red schooner]

pls, i'll make mistakes, i need the import feature

[thorn thorn]

Flameshaper is changing engulf to prevent it from being usable on targets without firebreath

Because a shocking number of people didnt know that if you use engulf without firebreath it actually just does zero damage

[solemn echo]

LMAO

[thorn thorn]

I relate to this actually

[solemn echo]

It's almost like you need flames to shape them no?

[thorn thorn]

Ya

Crazy

[waxen oyster]

have you seen evoker players

[red schooner]

unfortunately

[haughty flicker]

have you seen evoker players

[thorn thorn]

Brother im in wyrmrest temple, and im an evoker main

[red schooner]

fair

[thorn thorn]

I have seen, way too fucking many

That make me wanna uninstall life

I dont invite random evokers to my keys

Ever

[royal lantern]

i dont invite randoms to my keys

cus i dont pug

[main bridge]

pugging is cancerous

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

L doing keys

[thorn thorn]

You dont like outdpsing a 670 character on your 630 rat???

Such a great hobby

[red schooner]

I don't invite guildies to my keys

because i don't do keys

[waxen oyster]

i had an mm hunter attack w pack while i was gathering

no md

so i let him die

[thorn thorn]

Based asf

[waxen oyster]

also a ret

but male belf ret

so expected

[thorn thorn]

Its always ret

You see as shadow i can start ramping on gather cuz I have fade

[waxen oyster]

takes a certain person to play ret

[elfin flame]

is there something like this for assa? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e2w0iHBCVp8K7hdSk1T8RKtUK9lr4FsRqFWd68FCQnk/pubhtml?gid=579089422&single=true ? like a sheet or list of all known bugs

[thorn thorn]

An officer in my old guild was a ret main, and he claimed he was R1 ret in legion but when we asked him for logs he said conveniently his acct was compromised and there were also no logs

[waxen oyster]

r1 ret

so smartest kid in-

[thorn thorn]

R1 player

zero logs

No name to trace

[waxen oyster]

Its a joke

[thorn thorn]

Yeppers

[waxen oyster]

because r1 ret is like

beint an adult and playing basketball with 4th graders

[thorn thorn]

He just liked to gloat about how good he was at ret

How good he thought he was anyway

[solemn echo]

That's a weird way to spell rat

[thorn thorn]

Yup

Always the people who claim they were R1

[waxen oyster]

good at a spec

[thorn thorn]

"oh my acct was hacked and I have no logs"

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

Sure man

[waxen oyster]

no one plays

[thorn thorn]

[fallow canopy]

I'm r1, dont check my logs

[scarlet orbit]

Also a classic. I killed insert Endboss with a guild from friends but they didnt log

[solemn echo]

Just realized your tag @thorn thorn

Lmaooo

[thorn thorn]

[solemn echo]

[thorn thorn]

"Previous CE"

Was actually on the bench for a CE guild

[scarlet orbit]

Or they got ce 10 years ago and never again

[thorn thorn]

A classic

In amirdrassil when I was raid leading we picked up this fire mage that claimed he was an aotc booster previously and good with mechanics

DPS bad, even worse on fyrakk cuz i made him do seeds (he could not do seeds)

[scarlet orbit]

Ok but thats just a regular mage then

We got hit by a "cannt start on the ape side because i need to jump in the opener" this tier

[thorn thorn]

[normal mist]

Check #transmog , wowhead released the raid weapons

they are cookin

[fallow canopy]

Daggies look cool

Like kyveza ones but more ethereal themed even

[thorn thorn]

He also had a complete crashout that we gave belor to the aug in the group

Even tho it wasnt even an increase for him

Although with how bad his dps was an on use that did tons of dam might have actually been an increase in hindsight

[thorn thorn]

All of the weapons are incredibly sexy

[zenith elm]

i want all of them

in every rarity

[zenith elm]

dont be mean, he was R1

[thorn thorn]

very true

[bronze pike]

Another point is that Assassination needs other ways to be able to use stealth moves without relying so much on Vanish.

I propose to make Blindside provides a mini subterfuge window after two consecutive Envenoms. Or, any other variation would work better than what is currently on live IMO. That would provide better interaction with hero tree of Deathstalker too.

[thorn thorn]

hm?

[thorn thorn]

Wait what spec were they playing

[strange python]

If they have to jump it must be fire

[scarlet orbit]

Yea it was fire

[thorn thorn]

I am confused

Why would they need to jump

[scarlet orbit]

To not hard cast at some point its easier to perma jump but skill issue

[strange python]

cause when you spam pyro in the opener you might start a hardcast thus losing a gcd

[thorn thorn]

[strange python]

though with how often you're in combust idk how they would play the rest of the fight on gorilla side if they cant play around it in the opener

not like firemage is a burst class atm

[balmy viper]

guys i have a question other rogues seem to be doing a lot more dammage with caustic spatter then me in m+ what could the reason be

example me vs him

[scarlet orbit]

My point exactly. But i got hit with the "yea but at the start we have bl so its harder" btw it was both fire mages

[scarlet orbit]

Thats both the same screenshot

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/twins-twinsies-man-spiderman-spider-gif-12746886

[balmy viper]

oh fuck

my bad

xd

[thorn thorn]

Its either a god tier shitpost or a mistake

[balmy viper]

thats him

[waxen oyster]

Why is envenom 2nd

ever

[thorn thorn]

Are these the same dungeon you are comparing to

[balmy viper]

yes

flood 16 and flood 16

[thorn thorn]

Route diff ig

[balmy viper]

same talents

same gear

literally

[thorn thorn]

The overall looks similarish

Mayhaps they did more aggressive and larger pulls

[waxen oyster]

oh god cleave build

[scarlet orbit]

Do you hold cds? Because he has way more casts

[balmy viper]

wdym

i have 25 kingsbane casts

he has 17

and he did more damamge then me

xd

[balmy viper]

guy im comparing too

[balmy viper]

me

[scarlet orbit]

Mixed it up

[waxen oyster]

same key?

[thorn thorn]

Hard to give an actual answer without knowing the routing

[scarlet orbit]

But maybe just post the log itself

[balmy viper]

same key

[solemn echo]

I mean, routing is a HUGE part of it

bigger pulls = more spatter

[waxen oyster]

if you arent gigapulling

playing cleave is int

playing cleave below 18 keys is int though

in general

[thorn thorn]

You will find that unlike raid log reviewing simply looking at damage break down comparisons for M+ is most of the time going to be woefully inadequate

Could be same gear, same build, same key

But if other persons group is pulling larger and more aggressively fundamentally he will do more damage than you

And the only way to fix that is to be in a group that also pulls larger and aggressive

[waxen oyster]

your tank needs a large dong

average group that tries to large pull without a vdh though:

wipe because no kicks

[thorn thorn]

Also wipes

Wipes are gonna nuke your overall due to timeloss

[waxen oyster]

i love when ranged spread so much

that there is sharpshooters

in all directions

[thorn thorn]

ngl i didnt know the sharpshooters jumped out to ranged until my group asked me why i dont stack for them

[waxen oyster]

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

I heal keys if it doesnt show up on the nameplates there is a 0% chance I notice it

[waxen oyster]

tank the pack in consecrate

[solemn echo]

time to reroll priest

and lifegrip them into traps

[waxen oyster]

bro

there are so many spots to swapblast people off ledges

this tier

[solemn echo]

can you swapblast in keys?

Idk if I ever tried

[waxen oyster]

I got a spriest when he was jumping down to gally’s platform

[solemn echo]

LMAO

GOTTEM

[waxen oyster]

then he released and ran all the way back and i got him again

[solemn echo]

That's diabolical

[waxen oyster]

can also wait by the door to sprocket’s room

and swap someone

[red schooner]

fool me once shame on you

[waxen oyster]

bro could have waited on a rez

[thorn thorn]

Wait what do you mean swap blast

[waxen oyster]

use swapblaster in raid

while next to a ledge

and your victim is running

[solemn echo]

It's an items that swaps your position with another player

I keep it on my bars :p

[waxen oyster]

turn your camera to the the edge

as you’re using it

[thorn thorn]

Wtf

[waxen oyster]

and they’ll run off

[thorn thorn]

Is it a toy or a consumable

[solemn echo]

Just a reusable item

[waxen oyster]

just an item in your bags

[solemn echo]

that you keep in ur bags

[waxen oyster]

from wod engineering

[waxen oyster]

in its first iteration you could cast it while moving

which you can understand why is problematic

[solemn echo]

That's funny

[waxen oyster]

they patched it then mages realized they could cast it while moving with icefloes

💀

[waxen oyster]

the first iteration of swapblaster worked on npcs

i remember people would swapblast the tanking dummy into the auctionhouse

[thorn thorn]

How irresponsible of you to give me this info

[wide ibex]

!log

[prisma monolith]

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[thorn thorn]

@humble verge When is your next contract

[humble verge]

uh idk

this guy said like

2pm tomorrow