assassination

[sly spoke]

yo boys how tf do i time an 18/19 rook as sin rogue only

feels impossible to kill last boss in time

[scarlet orbit]

You can portal out ot spec to sub for that boss like we did in nw

Oh as sin rogue only. Pray your other 2 dps kill the boss fast enough. Arcane mages are prefered

[small bane]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thorn thorn]

Sounds like a question for Zeross

[cosmic sandal]

Off topic but your discord user is the same name as my ex gf and idk how to feel about that

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

[marble hemlock]

you should call her, clearly

[spring moat]

@spice spire

[viscid spear]

Finally got around to making crafted bracers to replace my crafted belt 😥

[spring moat]

Same. and it came out not max level

[viscid spear]

I need to get more Crests so I can recraft it that extra bit

[solid hemlock]

pull in adds for first dmg amp with bl

idk i do a fuck ton of dmg last boss rookery

[sly spoke]

will try it next time in case the tanks down for it

[solid hemlock]

its the pack of smallies you can skip between those two caster guys

i also depleted the key twice bc people needed to dodge puddles and pulled them by accident

so theres that

i timed the 19 with feral/udk - we even waited on dk cds (or the feral rather, assa is afk on shield lets be honest)

for 20 prob need to swap sub

[sly spoke]

i see, i hope i manage to pull it off cuz rn all my attempts felt like i simply did not have the damage for it

im aware that im absolutely trash at the game since im new to it but even still it felt demoralizing af

[spice surge]

Sub is just significantly better on that boss, it just is what it is

[sly spoke]

yeah if i had gear/spec knowledge id reroll for sure

[solid hemlock]

its an insane boss for sub yeah

[spice surge]

Like the damage assa is putting out with funnel during BL is what sub does on every phase

But the shield damage coming in from sub leaves much to be desired for sure

[solid hemlock]

there could be multiple reasons tho, like if your grp is not pumping throughout the key - last boss feels impossible

but if timer is decent and you 3 phase it

its timed

[sly spoke]

mightve been having a fury war but even still im sure that im not playing it right

lotta rogues finished their 18s w ~4.4m dps while i struggle to hit 4.0

3 phase feels impossible to me lmao

[solid hemlock]

even without the add funnel

just make sure you have enough energy for the amp, its good to pre BL it

and just send full cds

second is KB

third is full cds again

depending on comp you might wanna wait with shield (90s cd classes)

but not hitting 4M overall is gonna make it rough no matter what ngl

[spice spire]

Hello

[worthy rose]

so for next season since we have an artifact cape

does that mean we wont get any drop capes at all?

or is blizzard going to fking troll us and give us wasted vault slots and wasted drops

[wanton mirage]

Oh you sweet summer child..

[worthy rose]

time will tell i guess

i didnt play during legion but as far as i can see weapons didnt really drop right during legion since there was the artifact weapons

[marble hemlock]

ye, legion didnt have any weapon drops beyond cosmetic ones

but we also had a legendary cloak in mop and raden dropped 4 different cloaks anyway so

who knows

but seeing how this one is gonna be "required" for some of the bosses, its likely that at least the raid loottable and new dungeon wont have capes in them

the others might

[thorn thorn]

I was pretty fond of legion artifacts even if they were just talent trees

[marble hemlock]

doubt theyd adjust the loottable for older dungeons

same, they had some cool shit in there

and not just DPS stuff

which is what i liked most

[winged sun]

ye with how easy it is to obtain the cloak in PTR atm, we're supposed to not get cloak drops

because its only chapter 1

so its likw

1 hr questline

but the powers didnt unlock, idk how to unlock that yet

maybe new patch or im missing something

[ocean quiver]

To the guy that said I should use the bee trinket

I hate you

@red schooner I hope you're happy

[winged sun]

btw

[thorn thorn]

Your fate has been sealed

[winged sun]

apparently the tier set isn't buffing the energy gains from darkest night

idk if thats intended on ptr

[ocean quiver]

I think so

[thorn thorn]

You were destined to bee a bee tamer

[ocean quiver]

I think so

all I need now is one of you guys to just boost me through some 12s real quick

[thorn thorn]

[ocean quiver]

Literally stuck with champion trinkets

had a friend that was gonna list his resil 12 keys for me but he been playing other game so no luck :(

[pliant remnant]

Not a very good friend then, is he

[ocean quiver]

Nope fakest friend ever fr

boosted character all the way to where it's at too ;(

[main bridge]

that thing is so fucking troll

it propels you forward

i learned this after propelling myself into the swirly on first boss in workshop

[ocean quiver]

Yeah I used it on my paladin alt

when I had no other trinket

so shit for damage too

[viscid spear]

We can finally be bees

[cyan surge]

Damn we are getting a lot of crit/mastery pieces next raid. 2 on the first boss.

[ocean quiver]

hacker

[snow hamlet]

632 BFA timewalking chest have more agi/str/int than 684 chest lul

6760 VS 5771

[ocean quiver]

On a real tho

Prio trinket better than HoC

if it's myth vs hero

Myth prio vs Hero HoC

[thorn thorn]

prio trinket?

Signet????

[spice surge]

Yes theyre the same strength

So if you have one with higher ilvl

Use that

[ocean quiver]

Yeah

[thorn thorn]

What eleem said

[ocean quiver]

I don't plan on getting myth HoC at all so next best myth signet it is

[thorn thorn]

[ocean quiver]

ty

[snow hamlet]

475 second stats change to 1000 main stats

[spice surge]

Ye unfortunately the ilvl is too low compared to decent stuff

But it is indeed quite a bit better than other shoulders/helmet/chests at the same ilvl

[ocean quiver]

huh

[snow hamlet]

BFA timewalking chest/helmet/shoulder have more main stats than their ilv scale

[ocean quiver]

oh right

[ocean quiver]

At what point do we start using the kingsbane build in m+?

[manic haven]

As things stand, is our damage profile changing much season in keys in terms of prio/funnel?

Trying to make sense of notes

[ocean quiver]

Like is there a certain key level that you swap it for?

[thorn thorn]

17+

[ocean quiver]

kk

ty

[limpid flume]

hey so is echoing void still fucked

[uneven crag]

anyone know how to fix this macro?

Trying to cast stealth, ToT (macro to auto target tank), and then shroud of concealment.

/cast stealth
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/cast Shroud of concealment

[spice surge]

Probably not changing much no

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[spice surge]

The WA page has some things you can do to troubleshoot

(but if you didnt have the WA installed thats a good start)

[burnt star]

whats up with the belt doing weird shit on cauldron

had 2 trigger on 2min 45

is it somehow targeting toy?

[hard river]

rppm is low

can very well proc 2 times or 11 times in 2:45s

[burnt star]

love those rng

rik proc

considering invuln phase

[hallow glade]

does it hit toys?

[burnt star]

im wondering if it does

cose on 4 fight so far

[hallow glade]

might be under events

[burnt star]

cauldron is the only one

[hallow glade]

if you check casts of the belt

[burnt star]

unable to see it

only see it in the damge done part

clearly something going on.. on all boss so far im getting around the same number of proc (35-42) up 1 arm bandit so far. excep that cauldron

[fresh kelp]

its just rng

the only bosses its sus on are bandit/mugzee and mildly vexie (since it can hit the non amped adds)

[burnt star]

i mean this show everyone doing 30+ ish hit (wich goes with what im seeing tonite on 6/7 boss so far)

doing 8 is sus

[fresh kelp]

well that log is from cauldron

[burnt star]

belt targeting random target means its gonna be hard to reproduce

[chrome cedar]

don't listen to that guy

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-well-where-is-it-looking-for-something-gif-5291661

[autumn frost]

What's the cooldown usage for first phase of mythic gallywix?

the timings feel like they suck

[cyan trellis]

im wondering that too

ive been holding 2nd kb for when adds ?

idrk

[upper dock]

Use lorrgs

[cyan trellis]

isnt lorrs just for padding lol

[novel star]

you just asked a question about padding 2 messages ago

?

wtf is this

do you want add dam or not

[buoyant herald]

2min cds come back up at a bad time on gally, when you're moving him to the adds during suppression

just wait til you're back on him i guess?

[fresh kelp]

time to cloak bucko

[last iris]

If you throw your CD's after the hard soak in mythic gallywix, when he spawn 2 set of adds at the same Time, you get your CD's kinda sync up for the add spawns

[red schooner]

I am

[junior goblet]

Hi Guys, i know SIM is always the way to go; however, i feel like Cyrce's Circlet shouldnt still be ahead of a mythic Ring of Perpetual Conflict at this point. Any thoughts? maybe im simming wrong? lol heres the link: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eTrXPHbDWaWhDDEyPVX459

[subtle tundra]

hi whats the best trinkets in season 3

[nova kelp]

probably the healer ones, they always have op trinkets

[hallow glade]

Come back in 2 months 👍

Probably the prism

[subtle tundra]

wrong answer

whats the worst tier piece

[junior goblet]

the one you dont have

[red schooner]

Head slot

It's always head slot

Because I never get that slot to drop

[subtle tundra]

biased answer

ignored

[junior goblet]

if you check Murlok.io, youll see the most common gear for higher ranked players

[buoyant herald]

Seems fine. Bleed likes mastery

[subtle tundra]

good bait

oh nvm

youre new

[junior goblet]

?

[red schooner]

I get all of my gearing advice from maxroll u should check there Mr varas

[junior goblet]

whats thta supposed to mean

[subtle tundra]

i meant for next season...

this season is dead

[junior goblet]

cool

[hollow river]

murlok is kinda frowned upon

as it's just another Armory data scraper

[junior goblet]

whats bad about that

[red schooner]

Because whatever top players are using is pointless when there's like 700+ items that'll sim within the margin of error

[hollow river]

you don't really know what you're looking at

the player's raid gear? m+ gear? raid talents? etc

[subtle tundra]

because popular != best when it comes to things that have a lot of randomness involved

its probably fine-ish this late into the season

[buoyant herald]

Top players as per those scrapers are also often gearing or talenting for specific purposes that the average person won’t benefit from

[cobalt hemlock]

how is ass loking if i wanted to try getting into the game again next patch im just max lvl. no special gear

[golden loom]

Its fine atm and with noone knowing anything about next patch atm it will probably be fine then aswell

[red schooner]

Unless you're playing RWF or pushing title, just play whatever spec you enjoy.

[cobalt hemlock]

ah hell no i did CE once that was a lot of effort and stress. if i play again ill probably just be a details fiend/logs fiend on hc or early mythic lol

maybe if wow got rid of the time wasting mechanisms

[red schooner]

Yeah so you can just play whatever, you vibe with sin? Play sin. You vibe with outlaw? There's therapy for that probably

[cobalt hemlock]

actually the only time i like outlaw was liked a week before it was reworked because i figured out how to play it at least to some extent lol

yeah just for vibe and big dps on ST and malding the tank isnt letting me restealth in m+ hehe

[novel star]

there really isnt that much shit that wastes your time nowadays

turbo boost as a concept was really cringe

major miss

but ignoring that its kinda fine?

if youre a raider the biggest time waste is the raiding itself lol

weekly m+ takes a day and 0 brain power, the belt took like 10 minutes

[cobalt hemlock]

if i take time to get my key up and then a person leaves because the healer died twice in First minute i feel like uninstalling

and so i did currently lmao and my key depletes

[novel star]

okay but now youre talking about a completely different thing

just a moment ago you were talking about doing ce being stressful because of wow having "time wasting mechanisms"

which implies like necessary content wasting your time

pushing high m+ is just for fun shit that doesnt mean anything

if your key depletes thats what you signed up for

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah key depletion is designed to wasted peoples time

[cobalt hemlock]

no high just high enough for max vault rewards

[novel star]

if youre in a ce guild and managing to deplete 10s then i dunno dawg

😭

somethin crazy happening there

[cobalt hemlock]

well i used to pug only

well sometimes there would be a guildie and then its easy obsiouly

[novel star]

self inflicted torment

either dont pug or list your own key and be picky about invs

but the best answer is really just dont pug, do keys with your guild or add the good players you find in pugs so you can whisper them for shit

we r playin an mmo

[cobalt hemlock]

usually everyone has their own m+ group already and now you have to be bothering people all the time. wish blizz would just make m+ pugg not terrible. which i guess they made a small step recently

[urban anvil]

So what are you guys thinking about the new tier set for season 3

[red schooner]

Seems pretty interesting

[north rivet]

@still steppe

[worldly wave]

Do we have a page for neq tier sets?

Fron the first look it seems we wilk go into fatebound and kibgsbane procs?

[urban anvil]

Depends on the proc chances i guess

And deathstalker prio dmg is damn good for m+

[worldly wave]

Hmm guess so

We also lose 40 energy and rupture dmg if we go coin. Which in turn may make haste more favorable

[grim jay]

Hu

Why would it favor haste

[red schooner]

Fatebound set looks good, just issue is fatebound pretty much falls over when there's adds in a fight

[grim jay]

Hint: dont say energy regen or you instantly lose

[grim jay]

Depends on further tuning

Also more kb more spatter

[red schooner]

Yeah, hopefully some tunings happen but you never know

Gonna be interesting to see what it looks like, changing sin to a 90s class is neat

Does mean that we're gonna need the 90s trinket though, I think there's one in the raid, not sure about if there's one in the m+ pools

[grim jay]

I hope they finally wrap their head around making stat on-use trinket CDs adjustable at some point

Its just plain stupid

Easy issue to fix

[red schooner]

Then they just need to make raid wipes reset cooldowns under 2 minutes

I beg

Pls

[grim jay]

Which is another easy fix

[red schooner]

So, a couple of expansions away

[grim jay]

Probably

[red schooner]

They do have items like best in slots that have right click toggle modes on them so, the technology is there

[worldly wave]

Haste energy regwn is th!t bad? I zhought it would give extra kb procs and compensate the wnergy loss from deathstalker

[grim jay]

I had hopes with the int on-use tome

With the stacks

[grim jay]

You need a fuckton for it to be noticeable even

The energy part of haste really is minor, its a fine stat for the other reasons

[brave comet]

rank 15!

[fathom minnow]

any fukin fatebound build for m+ to test?

idk how to play this sheeeattt

[brave comet]

i think most people will tell you not to play fatebound in M+ whatsoever

[red schooner]

I don't know anyone who's played FB in M+, it's a fair bit behind deathstalker I thought

[golden loom]

No its -30% in m+ compared to deathstalker

[fathom minnow]

sorry boiz, i mean for ptr

to test new tier set bonus

[worldly wave]

Gz!

[brave comet]

it was tough, i got rejected for not having raiding experience over hundreds of times!

[dawn seal]

HELLO I AM BACK

[red schooner]

HI BACK

[dawn seal]

are we cooking on new season or what

[urban anvil]

New tier set cooking

[sharp viper]

how does one parse on gallywix? i got a raid with 2 fury warriors, 3 destro locks nuking the everliving essence out of any adds

oh and +2 rets once their hero talents are fixed

[brave comet]

i mean my parse isnt the best either. its really all luck imo

[golden loom]

Fuck gallywix

[sharp viper]

boss gets to platform adds in p1, adds are below 20%

[golden loom]

The way to parse is to do sales so you have noone nuking adds and you also delay killtimer to get 2nd intermission

[sharp viper]

muh paddingfunnel dmg

[sharp viper]

[brave comet]

is that a thing?

[wide ibex]

Guys, for your average 12 (pugging). Do you guys suggest the Kb Hybrid build or the bleeding one ?

[sharp viper]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[golden loom]

Well if you looked at top logs like a week ago everyones just 400 gazillion spatter damage

And only way to get that is if noone else is touching adds

Theres only so much you can do in a normal raid situation idk

(might be copeing extra hard cause I've had to shiv at awkward times to soothe )

[brave comet]

well me too, they make me soothe as well

the one time i didnt the adds nukes our tank

so after that point i just always did

[wide ibex]

Ty mate

[golden loom]

Yeah it sucks but at the same time Assa can legit aoe soothe and its at a time you want to shiv anyways

But it creates some awkwardness for sure sometimes

[red schooner]

I soothe but our evoker doesn't and what is life

[worldly wave]

Isnt bleed build only ok till like +8?

I ve been doing hybrid in 12s

Guess this is why my dmg wont go above 50% of class....

[red schooner]

Til like... 17s, and people have timed 20s with bleed

[worldly wave]

Wooow

Well

I guess its time to do all 12s again

I shudder at the letters top

[real pike]

I hope hybrid goes back to being the better build next season

There I said it

[red schooner]

[brave comet]

i fucking hope youre right, people love bleeds

but i loathe it

[quasi pine]

real for that

[red schooner]

Nah I love bleeds just let me bleed man

[quasi pine]

something just feels off without KB in your kit

Anyway both are good this season, maybe the same for s3?

[red schooner]

Yeah, having the choice would be nice

[static glacier]

Hybrid is largely competitive with bleed

IMO also better in mass aoe

[sharp viper]

you need a big boy to hit with hybrid, otherwise it's garbage in aoe

compared to bleed

[quasi pine]

bleed is really good when you have no prio target, and the packs are composed of small adds

[warm vortex]

Based

Still probably playing survival or BM though. I might look at Assa’s tier set to see if it’s interesting

[red schooner]

Oh hey vens alive again

[warm vortex]

I’m back

Just stopped playing wow as the season went on as usual

Bro wth is this fatebound tier set

[red schooner]

We 90 second class boys

[warm vortex]

Isn’t the lucky coin the one where you have to flip one 7 times in a row

Oh wait read the entire pin

Eh?

I prefer DS and they made it so boring

Oh wait
Dire beasts now obey KC

Okay probably locked into Bm now

[zenith elm]

Rat gameplay once again

[warm vortex]

Rats aren’t dire beasts
They are homies

[worldly wave]

Jsut to be clear

Bleed buold used till 17 keys

Is without spatter also?

So you jsut spam tempest fan and mutilate?

[lusty kraken]

honestly I don't know if you will want to play fatebound

given this trinket drops from the raid

[shy axle]

no it has splatter

[shy axle]

you keep up your dots and splatter if they are up

[zenith elm]

There is also a 1.5 min Active trinket which gives mastery

and its in a dungeon, much easier to farm

[lusty kraken]

sure but it's not as strong as this

[zenith elm]

Maybe they will nerk it

nerf*

[red schooner]

You spatter. Or you just take internal bleeding and commit purely to bleed only. (Don't do this)

[lusty kraken]

they should, it's ridiculous

[worldly wave]

I see tybm

You use shib in aoe situations for bleed buff

Or save for deathstalker finale envenom?

[lusty kraken]

the bleed build doesn't use the talent that buffs nature damage

no I'm dumb

ignore me

but afaik the bleed build is more liberal with the use of shiv

[buoyant herald]

well you're not locked into shiv with KB so yeah it's a bit more up to you

shiv for more value during MA? shiv for demise maxing? the world is your oyster

[worldly wave]

Tnx 💪

[real pike]

is this not at odds with the ramping nature of KB

will there be a sweetspot where you have to active it X seconds into KB for the max effect

or even right at the end so it's used for the big dry shivved envenom

[lusty kraken]

No idea, I will let whispyr do the math for me

[zenith elm]

The only real answer

[grim jay]

Hopefully it will die in a fire

And im pretty sure it will just be together with kb

[winged sun]

Guys

Un-guys

I take it back

[sick scarab]

guys just to know.. what is the setting are you using for spell queue window ? i am curious

[royal lantern]

i never changed that in 18years of playing

[sick scarab]

so 400 then

and you feel it fine ? not cluncky ?

[grim jay]

Brotherman

Spell queue is pretty individual

Depends on how you play

Some people dont notice anything aswell

200-400 is what most people use ig

[sick scarab]

i am on 200 atm

raised from 160

but i am spammer guy and sometimes spell doesnt shoot

so i am trying to figure it out the reason

[grim jay]

I think I did change it to like 175 once and never had any issues

[sick scarab]

playing on 30 ms

[grim jay]

There definitely is a too low and a too high point

Im playing on 12ms iirc

[sick scarab]

12 ms is nice

[waxen oyster]

Sin isnt fast enough

where lowering spellqueue matters

[grim jay]

Its about your personal input speed more so than spec apm

[serene mason]

but also think about that this 12ms is kinda an median value

you can have single packets peaking above 150ms + inputlag and so on

[grim jay]

Idk I personally dont care much about ping as I never have any issues with it

[serene mason]

yeah but i just want to remind that you can loose an input if your spellqueue window is too low.

[grim jay]

Ye thats why I said there definitely is a too low and a too high for it

[waxen oyster]

default is literally fine

unless you’re playing a spec like outlaw or sub

on over 100ms

[serene mason]

sub will be even more eviscerate spammy in s3

maybe mousewheel bind angle

[waxen oyster]

at least its not sepulcher

[royal lantern]

isnt Sub one of the slower specs lol

[grim jay]

It still literally isnt only decided by apm

[waxen oyster]

during cds

its kinda fast

then its kinda slow

[nova aspen]

ye u need every single possible gcd in cd's

outside of cd's u go get a sandwich

[past marten]

I think sin and sub have comparable apm, but for some reason sin feels like a snoozefest and sub doesn't. Probably because of what malarki says.

[royal lantern]

iirc sub has a slightly higher apm

but its like

assa is just always 1 ability every 1 sec cus it has not really offgcd stuff

[waxen oyster]

sub has more ogcd abilities

[royal lantern]

sub has multiple off gcd abilitys during cds

so it "feels" faster

iirc sub is slower then assa during downtimes

[waxen oyster]

sin feels fast if you proc blindside every mut

and crit them

[past marten]

yeah, sub does nothing outside of dance

if it wasn't for the cdr you could probably go afk and lose like 10% damage

[winged sun]

Buff sin plz

Very bad

[wide gorge]

@winged sun have you tried ptr sin? it kinda feel awfull....

[winged sun]

Cooked

It feels very nice

Im very happy about the new tier set’s design

Wish it was stronger tho

[waxen field]

i like how the fatebound tierset is bugged, the ramping of kb goes back to 0 after 14s

[royal lantern]

bugs on the ptr

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[midnight mist]

bugs on the ptr that makes it to live every single time

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[winged sun]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/G4U0IHpXS-bqhBW9ONq97XE2HsM38oeY0-DjYuwbYqc/https/media.tenor.com/CNI1fSM1XSoAAAPo/shocked-surprised.mp4

Why is my cat scuffed

@midnight mist help

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[nova aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/877558608097857566/1184535973896392705/ezgif-1-c9490f446a.gif

[feral mason]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[winged sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1070871565035655239/1086502908394209390/orig.gif?width=603&height=603

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22968526

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-ghoul-gif-15685393113271845735

[placid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/locked-away-for-eternity-cat-cat-locked-in-bag-gif-19834648

[spice spire]

Always looking at tier design and not tuning because tuning can happen later v based take mister Ross

[dapper cradle]

That’s why our king is getting promoted to shadow

[normal mist]

New whispyr

[kind forge]

Where is he

[normal mist]

Vacations

[main bridge]

hacker compromised his pacemaker too

[kind forge]

Oh he got hacked ?

[normal mist]

Discord issues

[static glacier]

Yes, in any real keys you will have a target to hit, spatter is uncapped while bleed has rupture and garotte only apply to 3t, hybrid gets to push for spatter damage much faster on mass aoe pulls and isn’t as reliant on IC for dps in that situation while generally winning slightly too. 2-8 targets bleed wins, 9+ is hybrid / zeross build territory

[hidden bay]

aslong as theres no new pins from Whispyr means that i dont trust the new pins those guys have no idea!!!

[nova aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lazy-sleepy-looking-window-gif-18131947

[mortal wave]

is it worth to spend on consumables in M+(below 10)?

[stuck knoll]

If you want to

Like

You don’t need consumables to time most keys that the vast majority of the community is doing

[spice surge]

But bigger number = more fun

Just depends on how much you value your gold

[stuck knoll]

Yeah like I would probably use flask and food and oils but you don’t need to and it’s not really worth it but also I’m not hurting for gold so

[orchid pewter]

Just use the most important stuff on rank 2

Flask whetstones and shit

[royal lantern]

never used combat potions in m+ unless is some kinda high level stuff

like, most of the time just food+whetstone and thats it

[coral ibex]

i cba to change macros

my DM macro uses my potion

[stuck knoll]

I know people who do and who just have em macro’d into cds

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats why i dont have pot macro with cds

[stuck knoll]

But I forget and I’m not macroing it into my cds so

[royal lantern]

[spice surge]

I have a WA that yells "Potion" whenever i pop cds

[stuck knoll]

I will just continue to forget to use them unless the first pull is massive with lust

[magic thorn]

l

[spice spire]

Same

[stuck knoll]

That’s cuz you’re intelligent and handsome king

[spice spire]

I am quite literally neither bbgirl

[foggy briar]

Its so annoying that circlet is still better than max crafted ring q.q

[coral ibex]

not for me

crafted + jastor is better

[foggy briar]

my ocd is triggered by this 658 item amidst all the 680+ lmao

[solemn echo]

Think it's dependent on ur mastery iirc, if you swap some other pieces might get high enough to be able to drop it

[foggy briar]

How much mastery am I aiming for?

rough ballpark

[spice surge]

Youre not aiming for anything

Just sim the items you have

[shy axle]

are the discs warband-wide for the belt?

[solemn echo]

Haven't hit it yet, sin is my OS and while jastor replacing circlet is an upgrade jastor replacing my other ring is a bigger upgrade kek, maybe if my other ring was myth. As elem said tho just follow them sims

[main bridge]

if you mean the belt modules then yeah

[shy axle]

ty

[old lily]

almost no upgrades left in the game (only play M+)

[solemn echo]

Hot damn

[old lily]

insane vault luck has definitly made it easier

[pastel roost]

A gem slot on your head and you're set

[old lily]

true

[wide gorge]

isnt priory procing crit?

[old lily]

17k crit 21k mastery

[wide gorge]

with pacemaker + pot ur fcked

[coral ibex]

unlikely

[old lily]

hmm, i did not think of that but i guess it can happen

[coral ibex]

he has a lot of mastery

its prob like 23k vs like 13k crit

[old lily]

17vs21

[coral ibex]

pot gives you as much mastery as crit so that wouldnt matter

[strange tundra]

Imagine raiding

[coral ibex]

flask on crit would be rough tho

[old lily]

im waiting for alch chaos to roll crit and htiting dunmmies

[coral ibex]

that plus pacemaker would be almost 7k crit so yea

[fallow canopy]

just always high roll lmao krill issue

[wide gorge]

just take mastery flask and ur good

[old lily]

yep turns out it can proc the crit

so yea mast flask from now on

or maybe re crafting a crit piece to vers like the ring maybe

[spice surge]

Just sim and see, probably doesnt matter that much

[old lily]

yea you're prolly right

btw did whispyr get his stuff back

[spice surge]

He did, but then he got it taken away again

[old lily]

that's rough

[potent raven]

who dis

[small bane]

Gonna start looking in Premade groups for M+ things, but uh...legit only run a single Mythic cause it's been way easier to just get in pug heroic Lib >_<

Wish me luck

[sonic zinc]

thats kosai, a warlock

[potent raven]

how do u kno

[solemn echo]

Also zerocool

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/zerocool-gif-5472975689631546553

[scarlet wyvern]

is bleed build stronger inST or hybrid?

speaking of 19 keys

[solemn echo]

Bleed is negative at DPS

The point of hybrid is because you cannot time keys past a certain point cuz bosses take too long as bleed

[scarlet wyvern]

oh i see

[spice surge]

Nah you very much can time it even with poor ST

But yes most play cleave in higher keys

[scarlet wyvern]

for example mechagon

hybrid > bleed yea?

[spice surge]

If by hybrid you mean the one listed as cleave in the guides yes

[scarlet wyvern]

^yeah with KB

[spice surge]

With forced induction

Yes

Just the one labelled hybrid is not more ST than bleed

[pastel apex]

which % is the cap of mastery??

top dps on warcraft logs

[spice surge]

Doesnt matter

[pastel apex]

put haste enchant

[spice surge]

Sim your stuff stuff in topgear

[pastel apex]

i don't understand

[runic hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[coral ibex]

they just use what sims highest

there is no cap for mastery

[pastel apex]

and then why haste is better than mastery?

[coral ibex]

as you get more of one particular stat, the value of every other stat increases relatively

haste isn't "better" than mastery

its just more damage to have a haste enchant for them vs a mastery enchant

[spice surge]

Stats just does not matter nearly as much as people think they do

Not on any spec, but especially not on a spec like assa where all stats are close to each other

[raw marlin]

Taka taka taka taka taka taka tak 🎧

[small bane]

I did not know that. There aren't breakpoints anymore?

Neat

[spice surge]

There hasnt been since like Mop

[solemn echo]

Aye there are a few exceptions but generally just sim angle

[scarlet wyvern]

so i tried KB build now in Mechagon 19

4m overall till 3rd boss midfight then all wiped

got omega flamed apparently my fault that we wont time but yeah ok^^

"4m overall rogue does with 660 ilvl many weeks ago how can u be so dogshit?"

[normal mist]

have you put them in the ignore list already?

[scarlet wyvern]

ye

i mean the rsham asked "Rogue can u go pls omega ST build? Ret and UHDK will handle cleave/aoe"

i mean i went for it

why do you complain about low aoe/overall xd

[royal lantern]

you pug

[scarlet wyvern]

y

[royal lantern]

why do you pug

[scarlet wyvern]

i dont have frends

[royal lantern]

and why do you pug high keys

[scarlet wyvern]

FRENDS

[royal lantern]

thats asking for self harm

[scarlet wyvern]

ik 😦

but nobody wants to premade with me

[normal mist]

show feet pics first

either it is a turn on or a turn off

[scarlet wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-socks-gross-disgusting-foot-gif-6662447972867821962

[mortal wave]

how many reddit threads about rogues should be created

[autumn idol]

this belt is so nice i love it so much ❤️

[royal lantern]

bro rogue is so bad am right??

like, i paly ret paladin and the gameplay is so good, not like rogue!!!

hey guys, what class is the worst and why is it rogue????

rogue has no class fantasy

but stealth is also bad!!!

[lusty kraken]

why is a class that is supposed to be stealthy not flashy like my ret paladin????

[earnest flume]

i know i asked a few days ago what a rogue might have to use defensive wise on mythic mug'zee mine pops. people said evasion and i wanted to ask how evasion is the answer. WIth Bait and Switch its a 20% magic dr but the phys damage is like 36 mil, does 100% dodge actually work on that? just trying to understand the class better i guess

[coral ibex]

its a physical attack

evasion provides 100% dodge for physical attacks

oh the mines i thought this was bout the intermission spin

idk about the mines

you can walk thru the physical hand beam during intermission with evasion tho

anything coded as an attack should get dodged by evasion provided you are facing the attack

[earnest flume]

ye mines, unless when i asked the other day people misinterpreted me.

[vocal basalt]

You jest but doing M+ is a pain on higher keys

[spice surge]

Provided you face the target doing the attack*

Most of the time thats the same thing, but not always

[frozen iris]

i have been gone along time. Is Whispyr no longer around

[spice surge]

He is

His discord got compromised so hes figuring that out

[coral ibex]

any examples

[spice surge]

Echo of neltharion

The walls breaking

[coral ibex]

didn't do that one

good to know tho

[royal lantern]

not really, but ok buddy

[earnest flume]

any chance someone with the knowledge could clarify for me on the rogue popping a mine thing? Im trying to help raid plan and we only have one pally(holy not prot) so we need to be a lil creative. Sorry for the repeat

[ashen urchin]

the phys part of the mine is parry/dodgeable so yes you could evasion + cloak to immune all of it if you absolutely had to

[solemn echo]

The magic part is easily livable tho

Just hit a HP pot of ur in danger after

(unless you are assigned to soak them for some reason LMAO)

[earnest flume]

Awesome thank you!

[ashen urchin]

we didnt try it out much so i dont know the exact details on how precise the front angle is to make sure you actually dodge it or if you can press evasion and just stand under the circle instead of just running into them after though

[runic basin]

am I wrong, or are the rogue sets by far the most boring ones coming out?

[spice surge]

Theyre tied to hero talents

Rogue famously do not have the most popular hero talents

[normal mist]

We are the underdogs

[runic hinge]

Idk what is boring about 45 second kb and 1:30 dm but maybe that’s just me

I’m playing fatebound every boss

[mortal wave]

do we always cast shiv in last 8 secs of kingsbane?

[normal mist]

If you only have 1, yes

[haughty flicker]

well you'll always cast shiv in the last 8 seconds with 2 charges too

you'll just also cast it at the start

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-even-mad-thats-amazing-gif-11382871

i got got

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-ghoul-gif-15685393113271845735

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22968526

[normal mist]

my cat sometimes does try to bite my monitor LOL

[solemn echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hungry-gif-3837368692231398082

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[warm vortex]

Tried this?

[normal mist]

i have 4

and i dont have enough tape

[mortal wave]

In what dungs pure bleed is better?

[keen spruce]

Just tape them all together

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cage-lock-open-smart-gif-3533570

[normal mist]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[keen spruce]

All of them

[mortal wave]

in wow head most of them suggest hybrid

[keen spruce]

Until you’re doing 20s

[mortal wave]

even in ToP go bleed?

[keen spruce]

I mean you can play whatever in anything

[winged sun]

Ofc top is the best one even

[keen spruce]

Whichever you like better

[mortal wave]

for pure bleed no kingsbane?

[winged sun]

Yes

[mortal wave]

ok u rule guys

[winged sun]

Its rly good there

The only place where bleed is kinda bad is

Or worse rather

[normal mist]

how high are you pushing atm?

[mortal wave]

like even +8s

[winged sun]

Bro

[mortal wave]

so pretty high !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[winged sun]

Play bleed on all ur keys

[normal mist]

Zeross out here giving advice to the 18+ keys

And our dude not even on double digits yet

[winged sun]

[last skiff]

https://vxtwitter.com/Warcraft/status/1936106807618945115

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Ah yes the S&D pressing

[solemn echo]

LMAO

[winged sun]

Ah nice

[solemn echo]

No way

[winged sun]

Snd big dps gain

Has to be best button ofc

[normal mist]

kingsbane --> Shiv

[solemn echo]

The fact it's an official wow post too hahahahaha

[last skiff]

why they always pick sin

for this shit

[normal mist]

to make us look bad

[last skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[normal mist]

But we are the underdogs already man

[shy axle]

bolt nerf and versa buff 50% buff

okay

[keen spruce]

I miss snd

U guys bullied realz to remove it

[lusty kraken]

what is there to miss?

pressing snd in the opener then never again?

[normal mist]

Thematic

[lusty kraken]

to be fair I didn't really care about snd

[normal mist]

same

[devout mist]

Mooooom do i keep charged bolts or have to swap to something else after the nerf on the new belt? thx ❤️

[normal mist]

Ask later today

[devout mist]

ok

[lusty kraken]

enjoy charged bolts for the rest of the week

[normal mist]

post was made 6 minutes ago homie

[devout mist]

my biggest issue is having to prolly go into a delve again

[lusty kraken]

whispyr is slacking

[devout mist]

yes but u guys are big brain, should be able to tell in 25 secs

i just copy paste

[red schooner]

I hate this belt why is it a thing

[normal mist]

what belt?

[keen spruce]

[red schooner]

the better timeline

[normal mist]

i legit wont get it until pre patch next raid

IF actually necessary

[lusty kraken]

if you're not playing sure

[normal mist]

i'm not

[cerulean nest]

charged bolt nerf

[normal mist]

did what i wanted to do this patch

now i farm tmog

[cosmic robin]

Atleast, we dont need the macro anymore hah

[maiden sierra]

Is "angryWhispyr" "pleadingehispyr"? Or are we not that far into the 7 stages of grief yet

[lusty kraken]

why would whispyr be mad

[humble verge]

jolly wolly today

[maiden sierra]

Did you read the announcment in the rogue discord?

[normal mist]

He actually got got twice

[lusty kraken]

oh

[normal mist]

main acc --> secundary acc + main acc

[lusty kraken]

I thought he recovered his account already

[maiden sierra]

Nah his pc is a walking troyan

[keen spruce]

Gm king

[lusty kraken]

no wonder we don't get a pin 6 minutes after the wowhead post

[keen spruce]

Got hardware wormy

Pooter is compromised

[normal mist]

For now he might be away, too much stuff happening with this discord attacks and he has work to do

[maiden sierra]

Yeah who do we pester for pin updates 5 mins into a new wowhead article???!!!

[keen spruce]

Royal

[maiden sierra]

@normal mist new pin where????!!!!

SIMS???!!!

[normal mist]

If this was transmog, i'd pin stuff

[humble verge]

its 9pm

im jimming

[normal mist]

but this channel is the big homies territory

If anything, ask @marble hemlock :3

(or even Eleem!)

[maiden sierra]

He gave our target

His scapegoat

Chat assemble

[normal mist]

Vanish reset

GG

But as you can see, i do pin stuff,

just not in this channel

[maiden sierra]

@marble hemlock royal told me to ask for a pin on belt nerfs

Hurry up buttercup

[humble verge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6k6AD2MvUVCqN43FTK5fOI?si=L2IZ9jRlRIKtpFI3UsJ6dQ i found the silly song

[steel rivet]

I can't wait to see what belt buff we use now zzzz

[maiden sierra]

Any cool new daggers next patch?

[unreal kayak]

Not for you

[maiden sierra]

I love void theme

[maiden sierra]

Silence xontic

[normal mist]

yes there are

[maiden sierra]

Show pls

[restive falcon]

lets gooooo charged bolts nerf!!! W blizz, didnt fix it pulling out of combot tho

[maiden sierra]

Aint no way

Thats a shortsword!

[normal mist]

we going full ethereal man

[maiden sierra]

Oooh i need a mog with the red one

[normal mist]

i know this aint leather (its plate) but DAMN

[maiden sierra]

🥵

[normal mist]

iirc this is leather

[thorn thorn]

Are you in charge in Whispyrs absence

Or is that Seliathan

[normal mist]

Negative sir, i'm just one of the 3 tmog helpers

My name here is as red as yours

[marble hemlock]

sup

[normal mist]

Seli our goat

The boys eager for a new pin

about the belt nerf LOL

[marble hemlock]

nah sorry

im in chrono odyssey mode for the weekend

[normal mist]

Is that game good?

keep reading that name

[marble hemlock]

having a good time

very dragons dogma-esque in terms of "oh i wanna go to that point" and then you get sidetracked for like 2hrs and end up somewhere completely different

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/raiken-cat-hang-die-bitya-gif-26309780

[maiden sierra]

Man i love cats

Especially when they are 3 meters away from me

[normal mist]

personal space is important

[maiden sierra]

So my allergies dont activate and i can breath air

[normal mist]

my GF fell asleep behind me on the couch

my cat, after she fell asleep, went behind her and its now the big spoon

[maiden sierra]

Keeping my distance from my personal plague

[mortal wave]

crafting 2x everforged stabbers makes sense?

[normal mist]

no

[brittle shuttle]

if u have nothing else to craft sure, offhand weapon is lowest priority for ilvl upgrades tho

[maiden sierra]

Your cat is kinda... flat

[normal mist]

LOL

[maiden sierra]

Also sick painting

[normal mist]

GF enjoys painting

been slacking on that one

but i have some she painted already, let me show

[mortal wave]

damn I've been keeping my best weapon on the left side

[normal mist]

OOF

[brittle shuttle]

u gotta be cappin

[mortal wave]

ass rogue doesnt have main and off hand written

I played outlaw like 2 years ago and it had that I think

how would I think of this shit again

dumb UX just sayin!

[brittle shuttle]

u get free upgrade at least

[mortal wave]

there are like 1000 things that are not spelled out for you in an easy way in this game

that seem obvious when playing for a long time

[mortal wave]

yeah lol

[brittle shuttle]

fair but p much every guide does say main hand weapon dps is biggest upgrade

[solemn echo]

Those are gorgeous

[maiden sierra]

Man i love these

[normal mist]

Thanks. These ones are the one that come with the lines already drawn, with small numbers so you know what color to paint

[solemn echo]

This Also raid bots top gear is everyone's best friend

[maiden sierra]

Always loved art, always hated myself for being dogshit at art

[mortal wave]

Then i gotta google what is main hand in wow and that's dumb already

especially when im left handed irl!

[normal mist]

if you dont have a weapon equipped

and equip one

it goes to the main hand

[maiden sierra]

But im a coder, so drawing is at least not needed of me

[coral ibex]

why does the game have to literally spoon feed you, are you really saying you can't figure out which weapon is in your main hand

[mortal wave]

ok I see now so it's the left one and I've been using it correctly which im now sad about cause no free dps

[coral ibex]

this is some "its my first day on earth" type shit

[normal mist]

okay you were just thinking the opposite

but good enough

no dps loss then

the LEFT slot is the MH

[strange tundra]

Cate

[maiden sierra]

Wow turtorial L moment

Didint teach you whats left and right

[mortal wave]

https://tenor.com/view/the-treacle-people-bill-wizzle-when-am-i-gonna-learn-learn-eye-roll-gif-8556667748450981975

[normal mist]

Honestly, props to you for asking the question

[strange tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188130167541989408/1248897975720345650/argh.gif

[normal mist]

i take that over seeing rogues in LFR with m+ talents in Sprocket, and using internal bleeding in every fight

[strange tundra]

Don't raid

[maiden sierra]

Tbf i go into lft in m+ talents on alts

[solemn echo]

I've seen this too often xd I always send em a dm

[maiden sierra]

Thats usually because i cba going on wowhead or warcraft logs to import talents

[tropic jewel]

it will be elctrix current

[brittle shuttle]

seen rogue in a +2 when i had fresh 80 mage running sprocket build he wasnt hearing it tho

[normal mist]

And thats why i appreciate our rogue homies coming into discord and asking questions

[solemn echo]

So... Just FoK damage?

[thorn thorn]

Oh so Rogue dad is just MIA?

[normal mist]

yes

Whispyr is having issues with his discord accs

[thorn thorn]

I bet it was comcast that orchestrated this whole thing

[brave comet]

how much are they nerfing charged bolt by

[polar rampart]

62%

[brave comet]

oh fuck theyre killing it

[polar rampart]

rip charge bolts, we hardly knew ye

[brittle shuttle]

does belt hit incapped targets?

[spice surge]

Yes

[frigid lagoon]

Does that charged belt stealth macro only matter for m+?

[waxen oyster]

yeah until next reset

unlike you’ll play it with such a big nerf

[small bane]

Whatever, will just swap to whatever "is good"

it's not like you put thought into what belt mod is there, it's just going to be "what sims right"

[dense flax]

hey how is assassin with the 1 button? Trying to pick a class to go 0-mythic gally with only 1 button and on controller

wowhead article claims this is one of the better specs but want some anecdotal evidence too if possible

[midnight scroll]

it was good while it lasted i guess?

[waxen oyster]

50% to vers proc is rather significant

[waxen oyster]

go bm hunter

[royal lantern]

dont

[waxen oyster]

or devoker

[dense flax]

everyone except the bm hunters be sayin this lol

[midnight scroll]

go bm if you wanna play 1 button without the 1 button helper

[waxen oyster]

the only downside is if you play bm

[dense flax]

I would do dev but I heard it can't handle charged spells yet

[waxen oyster]

the expectation is to do mechanics

[dense flax]

well that's fine, my dps already gonna be cooked in mythic so might as well be that guy lol

is assassin really bad then?

[midnight scroll]

well the 1 button helper still presses snd so idek what else to expect from it

[waxen oyster]

it pressed shiv 2x in a row

then snd

[tropic jewel]

kek 😄

[waxen oyster]

kb shiv shiv snd

[midnight scroll]

ah yes, shiv, our main builder🤣

[waxen oyster]

what an opener

[dense flax]

on my shaman it just leaves dead gcds even tho spells are up that it's supposed to use lol

so at least it's not that bad

[midnight scroll]

genuine question, why are you even playing on controller? xD

[royal lantern]

im gonna be real with you there

if you wanna raid mythic, why do you not even wanna play the game and do your absolute basic gameplay lol

like

thats VERY unrespectfull to your full raidteam that carries you

[dense flax]

cause I'm done with it on sham?

it's called having fun

[royal lantern]

that doesnt change it

[frigid lagoon]

"I can get boosted through mythic gallywix pressing 1 button" doesn't sound fun but more power too yah

[dense flax]

cause I've done mythic clears on controller for a few seasons with other classes so I want to do it with one button this time

trying to find the class that will be the least burden on the team, more or less

and hopefully the most fun for me

[hot oriole]

full send aug no balls

[dense flax]

you don't have to be top dps for it to not be a carry

[dense flax]

so many people saying this but I don't want my guild to full on murder me lol

[wet spire]

With the one button rotation you will 100% be a carry on any class in mythic raid lol

[dense flax]

you don't need 90% parses to clear mythic

[wet spire]

True but you also need to not do 1.2m dps

[dense flax]

we're like 3 months in

oh is assassin 1 button that bad?

with sham I can get around 2m ST with one button

[hot oriole]

lol

[waxen oyster]

are we talking

the actual shaman spec

or ele

[dense flax]

the real sham spec

[midnight scroll]

1 button is def not something i would do, but tbh if your guild doesn't have a problem with that then go for it

[dense flax]

ele is a trap

[quasi hill]

We go electric current at Wednesday ?

[waxen oyster]

gcd delay of 1button sounds awful for enhance

considering that spec is relatively fast

[dense flax]

I'm just scared to spend all this time leveling to find out the class is like 50% down with one button lol

[wet spire]

Its alot of dps loss lol

[dense flax]

yeah it's like a 40% loss for me comparing logs on enh

[waxen oyster]

it overlaps one of your major cds

effectively wasting most of it

[dense flax]

yup and leaves dead gcds on bosses like stix cause it won't press crash with only one target

vv bad

[waxen oyster]

st builds take crash?

oh stormbringer ig

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-assist

[dense flax]

that's roto assist tho which isn't what I'm gonna use

[waxen oyster]

What is assisted highlight

[normal mist]

button highlights

[waxen oyster]

doesnt the base ui do that

like fdk lighting up procs

[dense flax]

I run a sunderless aoe build in totemic to help with crabs

[normal mist]

i dont understand your question then

[waxen oyster]

i could have sworn the totemic raid build plays no crash or sunder

outside of hothand reactivity sunders

[dense flax]

for pure ST yes, but when we started my guild really needed help on crabs and crash lets you transition more smoothly

it's basically the same build I run for ToP and workshop with a few changes

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i mean i just went by logs

and most people just ran that the entire raid

[haughty flicker]

it highlights what it wants you to press next

its like baby hekili

[waxen oyster]

where the aoe was just lavalash sunders and prim storm

[dense flax]

yeah I'd imagine stix logs involve never switching off the boss

[haughty flicker]

or one button rotation with more than one button

[spice surge]

Youre in assassination chat, no boss includes switching off the boss

[waxen oyster]

like i remember our enhance just dumped pstorm onto booty

for oab

[haughty flicker]

[waxen oyster]

and didnt really aoe otherwise

[dense flax]

yeah if your other dps can kill crabs that sounds like it'd be best

[waxen oyster]

double boomkin

yeah

[midnight scroll]

even if they can't, we got no choice😭

[dense flax]

all the better for one button then lol

[waxen oyster]

”already melded, can someone get these hyenas off me”

[mortal wave]

!snap

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of snapshotting

Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Power Infusion), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.

Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.

[normal mist]

Use new potion

[gloomy helm]

Hey guys, I'm an on again off again Assass rogue, seeing everywhere that the DISC belt suddenly made us really good again. What about it is changing all that?

[normal mist]

Disc belt made us good?

[waxen oyster]

didnt make rogue that much better than anyone else

[normal mist]

That's new

[gloomy helm]

Apparently, we're back in A+ tier for M+ according toWowhead

[normal mist]

LOl