assassination

[worthy rose]

Omg there’s 3 fking dungeons from shadowlands next rotation

That’s gonna be cursed

Why tf the fascination with fucking shadowlands

Bros gonna get blocked

[lusty kraken]

Because shadowlands dungeons were good?

[quiet oar]

Wdym

That 3

were banger Dungeons

Bro doesnt know what he is talking about

[red schooner]

I never played them so, gonna be something new to learn at least

[midnight mist]

I mean they are good dungeons tho

wdym 3 tho

[worthy rose]

theres no way you just said that

https://www.wowhead.com/news/war-within-season-3-mythic-full-rotation-revealed-377226

[midnight mist]

ah ye taza gambit are both sl

[worthy rose]

theres 3 from shadowlands apparently

necrotic wake and theatre of pain so far

fkin cursed

[lusty kraken]

I liked necrotic wake and theatre of pain

only dungeons I dislike were spires of ascension and de other side

[worthy rose]

me and my friends got griefed by a trap mage

for 130 deaths on necrotic wake

coz fucking amarth

has a team wipe whenever one person dies

i lost my goddamn mind like 4 times that dungeon

[red schooner]

[worthy rose]

that mage dies

boom

wiped

[midnight mist]

but like

[worthy rose]

repeat that like 10+ times and me losing my shit over discord

[midnight mist]

HOA is an all time favorite

[quiet oar]

Hating on SL Dungeons

[midnight mist]

and both tazavesh dungeons were good

[quiet oar]

But Harunie prolly loves BFA dungeons

Cursed man

[midnight mist]

I much prefer current m+

[opaque bolt]

group vote disband moment...

[midnight mist]

rather than doing the same dungeon for 3 years straight

"new" dungeons every season is a mega banger

[worthy rose]

my friends kept wanting to finsih it

thats prob their fault trying to continue tbh

it wasnt worth the cost

[opaque bolt]

hope you have recovered mentally since that ordeal

[worthy rose]

still got a burning passion of hate against shadowlands dungeons

[midnight mist]

hm

i mean i didnt like mist/necro/top

but hoa

dos

taza

kinda good dungeons

[quiet oar]

DoS is bad

[worthy rose]

WAIT

[midnight mist]

only if noob

[quiet oar]

too fucking long

[midnight mist]

!

[worthy rose]

MISTS OF TIRNA SCYTHE WAS SHADOWLANDS TOO???

[hearty seal]

because they're closer to modern design, I expect

[worthy rose]

FUCK ME NO WONDER I HATED THAT SHIT TOO

[hearty seal]

yes
that's literally Ardenweald

[midnight mist]

[worthy rose]

💀

i am decesased

[quiet oar]

Just a SL hater

[worthy rose]

this has furthered my hatred

of everything shadowlands

[midnight mist]

Ok but

Hoa

[worthy rose]

i swear to god if i was playing during wow shadowlands when it was new

[midnight mist]

Is priory

Basically

[quiet oar]

Whats you opinion about BFA

[worthy rose]

i would have immedaitely quit the game

and never looked back

[midnight mist]

With less annoying casters

It's an open AOE dungeon

[worthy rose]

what are dungeons from bfa?

[midnight mist]

No one dislike hoa

[hearty seal]

anyway
any meaningful skips in HoA/Tazavesh? I don't think any of the returning S1/S2 dungeons have any good ones, IIRC

[midnight mist]

we were doing a lot of skips

hoa you would shroud right with some routes

then you skip everything after first boss

stuffs like that

[hearty seal]

interesting

would be fuckin stupid to have a season with no good Shroud usage

[midnight mist]

i mean

i dont really care about shroud ngl

[hearty seal]

me neither but I need to cope about having utility

[midnight mist]

People do shroud routes when they have shroud

And don't when they don't

And it doesn't change anything

[hearty seal]

and atrophic/numbing ain't ever getting buffed to be more noticeable

[normal mist]

Honestly shroud can create more problems than not

[worthy rose]

ive definitely experienced troll tanks who dont know how shroud works

[normal mist]

1 wipe or bad release and gg

[worthy rose]

they wait at hte back of the group thinking i go first

and im like no the fuck

always tank goes first

especially at the start of TOP

[hearty seal]

yeah that happens sometimes

nah start of ToP isn't that bad

[worthy rose]

so i have a macro to explain how the eye mechanic works

and why tank always goes first

[hearty seal]

what's way worse is Mechagon second-to-last pack skip

[worthy rose]

oh yeah

tank needs to go firs tand lead the two robots into the boss room

[hearty seal]

ToP, you fuck up, you can either suck it up or go again

[worthy rose]

otherwise rogue gets oneshot smacked and then everyone loses shroud

and aggros the platform

ask me how i know

[hearty seal]

Mechagon, you fuck up, you just wasted the whole run

[worthy rose]

so far its gerneally the tanks fault when that happens

coz tank didnt go first

[hearty seal]

ye

[worthy rose]

/For the mobs that have the eye over them, please let the tank go first, as in TANK GOES FIRST, the eye mobs will aggro the first person they see in stealth, and they also have increased detection range against stealth units, PLEASE TANK GO FIRST

very useful macro

[quiet oar]

Atal Dazar, Motherlode, Waycrest Manor, Mechagon, Freehold, Siege of Boralus

[worn marsh]

Is it actually increased detection vs stealth? Like if you walked up to them unstealthed you could get closer?

Ok that's what I thought, just got a little confused on the macro wording

[humble verge]

noway hes back

[worthy rose]

siege of boralus was fun, mechagon is aight but with some tomfuckery, motherlode is fine except for hte minefield

not sure about the others since i havent experienced them yet

[worthy rose]

yes im fairly sure it is

theres been a couple times im in stealth right next to my friends and they dont aggro

but when the mobs with eye walks by

[quiet oar]

SL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BFA

[worthy rose]

they immedaitely come to me

and bonk me

[zenith elm]

Any good trinket in raid ? 😄

[worthy rose]

too soon to ask

youre gonna get blocked by whispyr if you ask

[zenith elm]

Ok sorry

i dont want to be blocked, i love our rogue jesus

[worthy rose]

exactly

gotta give the ptr players some time to figure things out

plus theres prob tweaks and changes anyway so wont know for usre

until closer to the time

but at the very least

theres gonna be a signet/seaforium/sacbrood which may be good options

high likelihood dk takes sacbrood as a bis option just cuz haste

maybe outlaw too

they like haste

[zenith elm]

Maybe us too?

Cause i have seaforium and priory combo

Hate*

[steel ridge]

yo fellow 90 second sprinklers

[subtle tundra]

90 seconds on a good day

[steel ridge]

could this be the actual rework idea for fatebound... to make it serve a different purpose than deathstalker?

like not make fatebound and DS compare on numbers only

[spare kayak]

Sprinkling hard af

[steel ridge]

but actual timing

[vestal cliff]

another varas banger

[steel ridge]

Varas... Varas never changes

[subtle tundra]

miau

[waxen field]

since the fatebound set reduces by 30s dm and 15s kb, wouldn't it be a hassle to not be able to press both on a 90s cycle ?

[subtle tundra]

er what

you press both on pull
45 sec kb
1:30 dm kb
2:15 kb
3:00 dm kb and so on

[golden loom]

vanish de-synced

[waxen field]

that'd need to have 2 proc of the set right

[golden loom]

no?

you can only proc it once

u cant have more than 1 lucky coin

[waxen field]

but like kb goes on cd up to 45s then should come back on 1m45 ? or did i missread and it jjust reduce the cd to 45s till the end ?

[subtle tundra]

it reads like you need to proc the coin multiple times

but you dont

[golden loom]

you use it in opener -> you proc tier set and the CD of KB is 45 seconds

not 1 min

[subtle tundra]

while the coin is active, they have reduced cd

[shell plaza]

math aint mathing

[golden loom]

like you use a 1 min CD kingsbane, but it procs the tier set

so u get CDR

and from there

u have 45 sec cd KB and 90 sec cd DM

[subtle tundra]

imagine you die

lollllll

[golden loom]

like dying with darkest night and no vanish....

gg

[waxen field]

ah so i both missread and had no idea how fatebound worked mb and ty

[red schooner]

Couldn't be me (it was me several times)

[nova kelp]

you know what ALL sub players loved, shadowdust

[winter prairie]

Hi, is there a know youtuber for assassination rogue?
I have some questions and it will be nice to have a video that explains rotation

[amber yoke]

oh is there

https://youtube.com/@whispyr5793?si=VN8ZOtr-S0_s_TlR

[red schooner]

Whispyr has a YouTube channel

[nova kelp]

some say whispyr knows his stuff

[winter prairie]

ahh ty!!!!

Just leveled my rogue, starting playing this class

[lusty kraken]

I assume m+ testing starts next week?

[winter prairie]

is the hybrid build okay for low keys as well?

[zenith elm]

Yes

just not optimal

[red schooner]

It can work, but, bleed build is very fun

[nova kelp]

go the bleed build in keys

[red schooner]

And better for low keys

[nova kelp]

easy and effective

[zenith elm]

in 2 weeks i think

[red schooner]

Bleed build best build

[zenith elm]

THIS ^^^^

[half igloo]

pressing this in combat will only remove charged bolts tho right? guess no spamming stealth in hopes of squeezing it in between my tank's chainpulls

[nova kelp]

bleed build feels almost criminal on a rogue in terms of througput:effort

[zenith elm]

True, but it's fun

[subtle tundra]

that macro is literally just pressing the stealth button and removing the buff
do you think its doing some magic to remove you from combat or what

hidden tech what the top .1% dont want you to know
here how the best rogues get restealths in combat with this one simple macro

[half igloo]

my brother in Christ I was asking to confirm how it works because I am curious if I could find a way to only remove the buff when out of combat

class discord memebers try not to be aggro for 0 challenge

[subtle tundra]

why are you pressing stealth when in combat

[loud hearth]

You should be able to add [nocombat] conditional yes

Or a /stopmacro combat

[nova kelp]

a lot of recent roguers will often do what they do on other classes and try to constantly stand next to their party in the event of the trollish 1% on a mob pulls

hang back a sec or 3, get your stealth, then move in

[loud hearth]

Stealth button also Mutilate button 🙂

[half igloo]

#showtooltip
/stopattack
/cancelaura [nocombat] Shadow Dance
/cancelaura [nocombat] Kevin's Oozeling
/cancelaura [nocombat] Charged Bolts
/cast !Stealth

[nova kelp]

if they'r edoing PROPER chain pulling, then that's a good thing

[half igloo]

that should work

I guess

[nova kelp]

you don't desperately need restealths

[half igloo]

yes however the tanks I find in my 17/18s don't quite do that

the good old chainpul for 0 dps gain while something is 3% hp

[nova kelp]

if your tank isn't chain pulling correctly in a 17 18, get a new tank

[half igloo]

I pug kekw

[golden loom]

what now

[red schooner]

Even easier to get a new tank then!

[half igloo]

xd

not wrong

but yeah

[loud hearth]

Cant 100% remember if you can use conditionals on cancelaura, but other way would be:

/use Stealth
/stopmacro [combat]
/cancelaura Charged Bolts

[half igloo]

think the one I linked will work

cos it's written with

all the previous xpac bs in mind

I go test

[nova kelp]

if your tank doesn't chain pull correctly in a 17 18, and you're pugging
get a new tank

[half igloo]

if it doesn't work I try urs

[half igloo]

well yes, however the dungeon also has to finish first

[half igloo]

the !stealth line is also very useful I find cos it lets me mash it

[nova kelp]

then go with the standard bleed build for 2 vanishes, and be a night elf for a 3rd safety restealth

if you need more than that

idk

reroll

[loud hearth]

Yes I just didn't add anything extra cos typing on phone is aids

My macro in game has all that

[half igloo]

once again, random class discord players chiming in to be toxic instead of useful for literally 0 reason

[loud hearth]

It was to show fundamental structure

[zenith elm]

do you macro stealth with shadowmeld?

[nova kelp]

there's literally not much else you can do in terms of restealths

[zenith elm]

cause sometimes i cant restealth while in shadowmel

[half igloo]

won't work during boss combat

[nova kelp]

if the group isn't going to give you an opportunity for it, then it is what it is

[subtle tundra]

once again random people cant take a joke from other people

[zenith elm]

Yeah i know about this

[half igloo]

:^)

[subtle tundra]

lighten up

[half igloo]

then idunno, I play human sadly

[subtle tundra]

if the discord was just ask questions and leave it would die

[half igloo]

I imagine the new nelf potion will be good for some of the stealth specs

[golden loom]

problem is that its a combat pot

[zenith elm]

!stealth

[nova kelp]

I mean, it's not really a joke though, at that level you're up to date on the happenings of the class, you're a good player, you probably have a handle on most of the little things we do

beyond that, if your group isn't letting you out of combat, you have limited tools for a foreceable restealth, it is, what it is

[golden loom]

so idk if it will ever see play

[zenith elm]

On tanks it can be useful?

[nova kelp]

we can bemoan good pulls or bad pulls, but we only have the tools to control it so much

[half igloo]

ye but when your deathstalkers mark gets randomly eaten by one of the 30 bugs blizzard can't seem to unfuck and you know there's no restealth/vanish in the forseeable future it's prob bigger dps gain to slam the nelf potion and get ur mark back for the next idfk 5 packs than get a combat potion off

[golden loom]

feel like instead of making a shadowmeld pot

just fkin do something about meld

[red schooner]

Just let us choose racials

Like

Cmon

[half igloo]

they can't do that cos it's a huge profit sale in the shop

[subtle tundra]

i make my team KNOW when i lose my mark

[nova kelp]

nooone will have a go at you for dsmark issues, it's got a clunky usage case. it's annoying to transfer, for sure. Sometimes you'll end up in a sitch where you're FORCED to dry envenom at max cp just to keep a darkest night active

[loud hearth]

You're playing the game???

[nova kelp]

if you lose it... you lose it, hopefully you have a safety net set up to get a stealth, or a party that understands it's importance

[subtle tundra]

shut up ill have you rimmed

[half igloo]

hmm

[nova kelp]

but there is a point where you'll hit your limit of what we have in the utility belt

[still steppe]

send it over

[nova kelp]

after your batbelt is empty, the only thing you can rely on is the party giving a shit

and honestly, there's like 12 rogues that actually play the game so noone really does lol

[red schooner]

11, varas freed himself

[midnight mist]

i was so ready for them to finally get rid of racials ..

[half igloo]

addmittedly I don't think meld is that big of an issue on roles other than tanks

[nova kelp]

racials should be a character selection

you just get all of them

[half igloo]

and this kind of fixes the tank meld situation

[nova kelp]

pick one

[midnight mist]

it is in keys

idk if thats even the biggest issue

[half igloo]

yes, as I said meld on tanks is a huge issue meld on non-tanks is marginal

[midnight mist]

there is a lot of things you meld in hgiher keys

abilities i mean

[half igloo]

cos meld on tanks will let u do a skip that will enable a whole route that's viable

and doing a non-viable route will legit limit you from reaching the title range in a season like this one

[midnight mist]

wait

whyspir

you were purple no?

there is something thtas been bugging me

ye

the color

[half igloo]

and on everyone else 1 more defensive won't make or break whether or not they'll be able to reach title rating

[midnight mist]

no ye i was wondering what was wrong

[half igloo]

like sure meld is problematic for literally rank 1 highest key in the world but that's like 50 people blizz can't make their game around that same as they can't make their game around rwf

[bronze pike]

When do u get purple back

Seeing u orange

Reminds me of shadowlands to much

[subtle tundra]

its problematic cause theres a tournament where everyone can see how op it is and its explained by the casters

not cause its used by the people

[golden loom]

meld has also been broken in pvp for 20 years

[subtle tundra]

cause % wise, its not a problem

[half igloo]

pvp is dead sadly

[midnight mist]

i just wish they would finally look at racials

[nova kelp]

I once saw a guy try to meld off the agro from a ret pally in an arena...
it was amazing

[midnight mist]

im so tired man

i just wanna be an elf forever

not a dwarf ..

[golden loom]

why are u dwarf

[half igloo]

idk I don't think a dwarf/nelf will prevent u from reaching the title range, yes it will 100% cause u to not be able to do some world first key but I think u can reach title range as any worthless racial

if people can do it as nightborne* anyone can do it

[golden loom]

you just have extra damage while playing elf though

cause ur hot

velf my goat

[half igloo]

wait weird tangent, shouldn't vanish also be macro'd in a similar way (like cancelaura belt/w.e other effect)

[golden loom]

no

cause you vanish in combat

and u also want the effect in combat

or u wouldnt run the belt

[half igloo]

yeah but can't it knock u out of vanish?

like obv. it'd have to be written in the oposite way, where it cancels the aura after u vanish not before

[golden loom]

I mean you vanish and break urself out right away anyways most of the time

[half igloo]

fair

[fair hearth]

What is the best effect to apply to the belt released with the patch for rogue assa? This topic has probably been covered before. is wowhead up to date ?

wowhead : the first effect. Not the mastery effect ?

[half igloo]

pin

but yes, the zap seems best

[fair hearth]

oh sry i miss the pin

[royal lantern]

lol

if you think meld and stoneform are only problematic for "like 50people"

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-9360083726644374992

[drifting cloud]

wtf new (old) whispyr

[hearty seal]

real
I have no idea why they're enabling it, it sounds more like bug abuse than clever usage of mechanics to bypass stealth detecting mobs with meld

[solar wyvern]

Meld on arms warrior enables skips, meld on rogue enables extra stealth actions, meld on healers lets them drink or rez, meld on monks enables skips, meld on....

[half igloo]

yes however my point is that none of these little extras will completely swing the key if the key is going fine

[red schooner]

Enable us to choose racials

[solar wyvern]

Not even to mention the degenerate eye of kezan stuff going on rn

Bear cant do all of the meld skips, so you require another class that can handle mobs (evasions or dbs usually) to do the skip for you. These skips do swing keys even at 16/17/18 levels which aren't top of the world

[golden loom]

Also blood elf demon hunters are cooler and should not be held back by Big Meld Incorporated!

[solar wyvern]

Also lowkey, i can imagine everyone using these meld pots ontop of shadowmeld to enable more skips/mechanic cancels or as a defensive

[flint tusk]

I’m looking forward to making money on the pots being bought by people who are clueless

[red schooner]

True, you thought meld was bad, now you can do it even more

[solar wyvern]

It shares tempered pot cd which is the only limiting factor but idk, i can see some real degenerate use cases

[broken lion]

Whats the most important thing to pump raid dmg?

[winter prairie]

I really dont like the bleed build 😦

I leveled up thinking I will use kingsbane and all the poison just to discover that the mostly used build is the bleed, do you think it will change next season?

[steel ridge]

thats their style of problem solving... just like they try to fix hero talents by giving each spec 2 tiersets

why go the obvious route when you can take a few extra steps

[red schooner]

Bleed is just better for lower keys, in higher keys more poison focused builds get used. You just need targets to live longer for the other builds which you don't get in lower keys

[steel ridge]

also you will play kingsbane in raid

[winter prairie]

Higher keys is 10 plus?

[winter prairie]

I don't like liberation of undermined 🙂

[steel ridge]

more like 16 and above

[winter prairie]

Oh I see

[steel ridge]

also bleed is just so much better for questing

[winter prairie]

It's so hard to get used to be above 50% energy

[red schooner]

Demise in quests is fun

[red schooner]

You can ignore that, it's a tiny optimisation

[winter prairie]

Ah k

[steel ridge]

well, it wont kill you if you dont

[winter prairie]

Ty

[red schooner]

I forget the numbers, but it's sub 1% I think

[steel ridge]

in AoE you have unlimited energy

and your ST is dogshit anyway

i mean sure the fatebound stuff is great, but its another layer on top of something that is clearly not working great, to fix that thing

so when the next patch comes around and the 90 second fatebound tierset is gone, its either rework that thing entirely or bake it into the hero talents

not saying its a problem

its just aknowledging that the hero talents lack something without saying it directly

but saying "hey here is a tier set that fixes stuff"

its a fix, but not the most straight forward fix, if you get what i am saying

whats the issue with the meld potion?

[final star]

they can still change their hero talents whilst retaining the tier set functionality too?

as long as the core related functionality remains

[steel ridge]

nah we got 1 rogue change announced, thats enough for the next 3 PTR cycles... calm down

[final star]

:/

The tier sets are pretty good, idk what to say

[steel ridge]

they are

not saying they arent

enough internet for today it seems

[red schooner]

Can I doom just a little bit, as a treat

[steel ridge]

see ya tomorrow

[final star]

They are cooking this patch

Rogue deserves more changes, sure

and the hero talents are still bad currently

But everything else is goated

the patch is gonna bang

[nova kelp]

to be fair, peeps been dooming for a good while on rogue like since the rework
numbers wise we've been fine, but peeps are just sorta reaching their patience with little changes
both sides have a point - dooming doesn't achieve much and it's cringe
but also if they didn't have something to doom about overall rogue numbers would be better than they have been for a long while now

it's not about the meta/throughput etc

[winter prairie]

Whispyr ty for all your guides!!!

[nova kelp]

peeps just always dooming on the littlle intricasies that annoy them

rogue has a bunch atm, has done for a while

is what it is

yeah but from a doomers point of view, every other class is getting a lot more blue posting

so they doom

and each time it happens they doom harder

they have a POINT, but just choose a cringe manner about it

[normal mist]

Would we be happier if we were Shadow priests?

[nova kelp]

to be fair though, I wouldn't have to deal with them nearly as much as you guys do

so like that's a thing

lol

[royal lantern]

im happy because i got 9hours of sleep

[normal mist]

banger

[plush umbra]

but then we'd have to deal with psychic link that gets buffed and nerfed twice every patch

[normal mist]

But they get blueposts

[plush umbra]

true, but it's the same one where they adjust psychic link by 5% every time

[plain quest]

can any assy skilled rogue help me out with some questions? i feel like im playing it terribly wrong

[nova kelp]

honestly, sometimes I think some peeps would be happier even if the blue post was a nerf - just so long as there's something in the list

[normal mist]

did you read any guide?

[plain quest]

i have read several. i have some indepth questions

[normal mist]

aight whats up then homie

[nova kelp]

why... do more people not call the spec "assy" I don't hate that

mut*

lol

[solemn echo]

Gratz on getting ur acc back Whispyr ❤️

[plush umbra]

how old was he when the spec was last called mut? like 4 then?

[nova kelp]

think it's about time for me to play my alt rogue

[normal mist]

kultiran rogue

[plain quest]

so i am playing a full bleed build and i feel like my damage is just not on par with what i see on ... lets say streams.

so i have few basic questions like:

Do you swap targets while applying garrote and rupture?

Do you build combo points with garrote and then spend it on rupture?

do you have to use deathmark in large pulls? and why as it seems like it has a huge focus on single target dmg

i sometimes see that sudden demise does not get triggered before the target dies. is this supposed to work like this?

i have read that during i am supposed to use mutilate for caustic splatter once every 10 seconds. i dont exactly understand why its neccesary when i am spending most of my doing FOK.

also. this may sounds like a obvious question but, where should the primary dmg of assy rogues come from, in terms of ability

i have seen few rogues in M+ in mythic dungeons like cinderbrew's first room but never managed to get to that lvl myself. i must be definately playing it wrong

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[normal mist]

@balmy condor you're the guide writer, good luck!

[nova kelp]

my favourite bit is when you tag a medicade station and they go "MEDI...MEDICE...ME...MEDICA...D STATION!"

"AMMO FOR YOU SHOUTY MAN"

[red schooner]

Just vanished the mechanic off onto someone else, damn.

[nova kelp]

we covered this earlier, it was a nelf racial

[nocturne quail]

You’re probably the wrong race

Jk my b

[red schooner]

[royal lantern]

oh wait, whisp got his acc fully back?

[normal mist]

yes

[red schooner]

Ye

Happywhispyr arc

[royal lantern]

was he not a purple name or am i dumb

[red schooner]

Or at least, happywhispyr until us dumb fucks ruin it

[normal mist]

he will soon hopefuly

not that it matters, his name alone creates fear already

[nova kelp]

ngl, I wasn't actually sure what to expect there...

[normal mist]

Whispyr is a good guy, i was expecting this wall of text too

thats why he writes guides and i dont

[nova kelp]

it's like when you had friends over as a kid and you were making too much noise, but it was also friday...
you hear your dad come stomping your way
50/50

[red schooner]

I was gonna try and answer but I'm on mobile and it was a lot of typing

And then I remembered I'm dumb and may not give good advice

[royal lantern]

50% "do you have fun? :D"

50% " WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT MAKING SO MUCH NOISE???? YOU ARE JUST LIKE YOUR MOTHER"

[plain quest]

thank you for the info!

[nova kelp]

what's the alternative?

[normal mist]

I didn't vanish the questions... i redirected them

[nova kelp]

oh I was going to say playing maplestory

[normal mist]

question: do you even play d4?

[nova kelp]

mate - I have that issue with playing games other than wow
I could practice speed running in things
but then my delves remain incomplete...

[scarlet orbit]

Whispyr on your pin. On the deathstalker section. Should that mean mean death mark right or do i miss something?
Notably does not impact shiv, so shivs will feel a bit weird, 2 on deathstalker, 1 on kingsbane, but it still lines up fine.

[nova kelp]

I REALLY want to like d4...
I super want to
but like... It's just not quite hitting for me

I think maybe I'm just not a fan of the "short season" model in arpgs?

if fucking.. that korean mmo arpg game, I forget the name, if that had oce servers...

see I love destiny - and it has a short seasonal dealio to it these days but also a continuous character

maybe that's my jam

[final star]

Not to the same friction that rogue have

[nova kelp]

I don't think I'm a fan of the constantly starting from scratch

[final star]

Classes like boomkin have problems but not as much friction

same as dev evoker rn

Playing dev after rogue is like the abuse stopping I stg

[nova kelp]

I really enjoy devoker

[final star]

The issues and conditionals just disappear

same as boomkin

press buttons, hero talents additive

Can only speak for those two classes cos I've played them

But if dev is good next tier and I can, I will try and play it over rogue

[lusty kraken]

who is forcing you to play rogue

[dapper cradle]

[lusty kraken]

since it's such an "abuse"

[nova kelp]

I agree that rogue has too much friction to simple gameplay issues
I would like to see things smoothed out a bit at least

we're not entirely alone in that though

I wish the classwide dance wasn't such an issue, that was pretty chillaxed for sin/ol

[amber arch]

Heyo !
Have a sim question.I want to craft up my items and spend coins.I'm able to get only hc raid items.There are too much combination and dont know how to sort the items.Sim 1 by 1 ( i put all the crafted gear in : Crit + mastery / Crit + vers / Haste + crit / Vers + mastery + gems - have 3 crafted gear. )
Exeeded easly the 5m combination 😄
Any trick or just 1 by 1 ? https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Huiva

[fast mural]

Is any good 1.5M trinket for New Fatebound?

The trinket from 4th boss seems overpower

Aha not so overpower for nerf prob

it has decay

I am talking about the Arazs ritual forge

[amber arch]

Wow.. that was fast and accurate.When swap Cyrcle's Circlet ?

[spice surge]

6th boss has a spymaster type thing too, thats probably gonna be it for 90s specs

[amber arch]

Soo as i see HC jastor is BIS anyway.

[nova kelp]

I'm telling you! my ogryn almost counted to 4 just now

[hexed frost]

Is double shiv cleave back on the menu boys?

[nova aspen]

where my pin go

[golden loom]

Cant wait for shiv to buff fatal intent

[royal lantern]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

now it will maybe do 1% dmg

[lusty kraken]

the bleed build will be insane with the new tier set

[native turret]

Finally we are 1:30 spec so subtlety players no longer have to suffer

They can play a fun spec now in raid

[quiet oar]

Hacked

[zenith elm]

Goodbye pin

[quiet oar]

[zenith elm]

lets now ask our questions about the tier set, bc they cant point to the pin

[quiet oar]

TRUE

[solar wyvern]

Hey guys question about the tier set

Does the 2 pc make my crayons taste better? And does the 4 pc add glue to the mix?

Theres no pin

[quiet oar]

Go back 4 Hours in time

and read the pin

[solar wyvern]

I dont lnow what to do

[zenith elm]

As a military guys

i'd say, it makes them green

so obviously better

[solar wyvern]

Ah yes

[zenith elm]

and i'd recommend print glue, better tast

taste*

[solar wyvern]

The military loves green

[zenith elm]

i do

and brown

[solar wyvern]

Those plastic army soldiers

Green af

[zenith elm]

thats why i shit my pants everytime i sleep

[solar wyvern]

Makes sense

So i shiv the military industrial complex to proc my 4 pc?

[zenith elm]

Yes, and be careful around dogs

they dont like when you eat their crayons

[solar wyvern]

What if im cat spec

[spice surge]

The dominos around shiv is busier than usual today

[solar wyvern]

Uhoh

[zenith elm]

even worse

[solar wyvern]

Dimensious has got the best void bombs, the largest portals

We have to take him down

[zenith elm]

i'm praying season 3 brings some new flavor to the rogue spec, it'll be fun

[limpid abyss]

hi guys i would like to ask if someone could help me on assasination i kinda new to it

[solar wyvern]

In actual gameplay speaking tho, fatebound assa was kinda fun on ptr. Sub was already bugged hehe, and trickster outlaw actually has too much cdr

[solar wyvern]

Itll be fun

[quiet oar]

A Green confirmed it

Take eleem accountable if its wrong !

Lying in the internet is forbidden!

[zenith elm]

i will, thanks for reminding me

[solar wyvern]

Lying??? On my internet???!?

[red schooner]

If you've got some questions then go ahead and ask, someone will be able to help!

[limpid abyss]

im just new to assassination and dont know which talets i go with the kingsbane or the one without it

[zenith elm]

without it, much easier

[red schooner]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[red schooner]

Bleed build is the kingsbane-less one for reference

[limpid abyss]

do recomend a youtube video i can watch and get the hnag of it

or to understand it

[red schooner]

If you look on whispyrs YouTube channel he has a video about the bleed build

[limpid abyss]

and another question i read wowhead and the rotation they wrote they said i have to maintain garrote and rupture does it mean even if not procted and press them or what exactly

[red schooner]

They are dots you keep on the target, when a dot runs low, apply the dot again

[limpid abyss]

dots?

[red schooner]

Damage over time effect

[limpid abyss]

so vanish and reapply

[red schooner]

The vanish is just for indiscriminate carnage, which allows the bleeds to be spread to multiple targets

For just single target, you can cast it without vanish

[limpid abyss]

ok thanks i will just watch the video that u told me about and see what happens

[red schooner]

No worries!

[zenith elm]

you'll see, assa rogue is pretty easy to get once you learn about it

[nova bear]

guys, are we losing stealth when our party/raid enter combat because of the belt?

[zenith elm]

if its yours, yes

[winged sun]

sin on ptr rn

is the most fun shit i've ever had

in a long time

the tier set is so nice feels like u have on demand dmg and shiv feels so amazing

holy fuck

[zenith elm]

Yeah? noice

[winged sun]

might not be the strongest for raid

but looks very nice

[zenith elm]

i'm even more eager to play S3 now

[winged sun]

for m+ it looks very very fun to play with

shiv being way longer and consuming a mark just feels great

feels like the gameplay is fluid for once

and not extremely slow

you constantly have good energy in M+ in st

[limpid abyss]

guys have a question in aoe i shouldnt loose all my energy why am i loosing all of it

[winged sun]

no longer oom bad slow gameplay

[novel star]

you don’t have your ruptures out or you don’t have your poisons on

[limpid abyss]

how do i spread the bleed

[novel star]

you press it

[red schooner]

Talent called indiscriminate carnage

If not, target swapping

With carnage up just send ruptures and garrotes into your main target and it'll apply them to mobs nearby

[novel star]

[nova aspen]

which build

[lusty kraken]

You will trigger the boomers in this channel

They find this to be a bad thing

[spice surge]

I mean we didnt get any more energy

Ig cycling the mark a bit more is 1/4 of 40 energy every shiv, but its not much

[lusty kraken]

Where does the extra energy even come from

[solemn echo]

If you think about having low energy outside CDs is thematic to the class

[nova aspen]

zeross just doing zeross things

[spice surge]

But gameplay might feel better anyway with more shiv uptimes

[golden loom]

I mean technically more darkest nights = more energy

[spice surge]

Ye thats what i said below

[golden loom]

Big 40 energy pog

[spice surge]

Its 10 more energy every 30 seconds

[novel star]

zeross likes to type words on the internet

don’t put too much thought into it

he doesn’t either

[white orchid]

I read the 4 set and it sounded underwhelming but I’m just dumb maybe lol

[limpid abyss]

ia their anyone that not busy that can help me find what im doing wrong

[winged sun]

its still good

and idk about 10 energy every 30 seconds

sounds cooked

its way more than that

ur not gonna get only 1 darkest night from 1 shiv

usually 2

[winged sun]

?

im sure none of u guys logged in ptr yet

thats understandable tho

[dawn trout]

@winged sun how does sin feel jsut saw you doing a dung on zorthas stream

[winged sun]

sin unplayable on m0

needs a very high key

[dawn trout]

i hated in m+ on boss fights when you get energy starved is it the same now ?

[nocturne quail]

yeah bro wtf i turn on zorthas and see HoA

[winged sun]

enh st looks funny

[dawn trout]

he had like 3 procs on that fight

he just spams storm strike

[sharp viper]

what is F4 ability?

[gentle belfry]

1 button macro with custom tool tip

[winged sun]

thats their tier set

gives them procs

[wet spire]

I don't like early ptr because it always feels good then they fuck with everything lol

[molten willow]

Do I need PI to parse orange or gold?

[coral ibex]

no

[zenith elm]

Pump more

[molten willow]

word ty

[strange tundra]

what are these quests for, is it worth doing?

[zenith elm]

Like the gym, train a lot and it'll come

[midnight oar]

Hey guys I need some help regarding the assassination in raid.
I'm managing pretty well the spec in MM+ (probably because bleed build is quite easy to play) but in raid I'm a total disaster.
I'm currently 663 ilvl and I'm around 1.4M DPS on raid at best I would say. What could I be doing wrong ? Because I think at this lvl I should more be around at least 1.8M

[zenith elm]

Depends how you're playing the encounter

use wowanalyser first to know what went wrong

[wet spire]

also posting a log would help

[polar rampart]

you gotta hit your buttons harder

[serene mason]

your UI looks funny. Everything is so smooth. May i ask you how?

[golden loom]

Story and cosmetic stuff

[serene mason]

it looks so clean

[strange tundra]

but i have to do it right?

[sharp viper]

lore and transmog

[sharp viper]

nope

it's sidequest level of story

[golden loom]

for power gain no, if you want to do it, sure

[strange tundra]

do u think i will need it for 11.2

[sharp viper]

absolutely not required for next tier

[strange tundra]

@sharp viper@golden loom ty guys

[sharp viper]

and even if so you can do that in like 30 minutes next season

[golden loom]

and yeah I just realized how clean zeross details looks

[strange tundra]

i might tryt it over the weekend, kinda short on time

[winged sun]

its my own ui

i made the WAs

idk i like it structured that way

[golden loom]

idk its something else, your textures look clean af

[vestal cliff]

healers will hate me

[strange tundra]

didnt u have some green + addon, couldnt find it anywhere in ur WA

[royal lantern]

15% is literally nothing

[winged sun]

4k QD-OLED Monitor + mechagnome icons, masque with masque klixui

[strange tundra]

thats all i wanted 😭

[royal lantern]

like

less then nothing

[winged sun]

all of this combined gives u this look

[royal lantern]

passive heal cleave does that by itself

[winged sun]

the monitor may cost the price of a gpu tho

[golden loom]

yeah I guess masque is what I was thinking off

[winged sun]

[golden loom]

you wont see the monitor in action on a screenshot though

[runic hinge]

Leech will save you

[midnight mist]

i thoughts keys were next week

[strange tundra]

how many times do i have to click this shit

[midnight mist]

are you doing m0 or what

[winged sun]

4k u can

[winged sun]

yes m0 2 man is the best

2 dpsers

and unequip cloak or something

[midnight mist]

i see

thats cooked a bit

[winged sun]

unequip necks

and stuff

[midnight mist]

dont you just one shot everything

[winged sun]

mobs are like +5 zac

so

if u unequip things

and 2 dpsers

it becomes good

[midnight mist]

i see

[golden loom]

3 times

[midnight mist]

is the new dungeon m0 here yet or not

[golden loom]

u have to catch 3 fish

[strange tundra]

bro i clicked it like 10 times

[midnight oar]

Here are the logs of one boss for example https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rKWjDkXyPV1nYw4q?fight=13&type=damage-done&source=10

[golden loom]

thats not how u fish

[strange tundra]

OH YEAHHH

[golden loom]

u wait for it to make a lil catch animation thingy

[strange tundra]

forgot

[golden loom]

and u click

[strange tundra]

LOOOOOL

yeah yeah

[midnight mist]

pignonneur crosseplatine

wtf knid of boss is that

ah tahts sproketcumster

[subtle tundra]

cumdumspter

im here right

[midnight oar]

Sorry for being french man

[midnight mist]

ye

you should be

[midnight oar]

I truly am

[midnight mist]

I know you are thomas

I know

[spice surge]

Zac is also french dw about it

[midnight oar]

Then he knows the feeling 😉

[strange tundra]

Oui

[burnt star]

Baguette au fromage

[final star]

the only person more french than zac is razhag

and in the wise words of Mal

[main bridge]

[final star]

"razhag makes baguettes sound English"

[earnest remnant]

lol

[midnight mist]

i talk more often english than french tbf

[sharp viper]

[lapis flax]

Im coming back to assa from DF S3 and feel like I'm having trouble on single target damage in keys... am I supposed to be maintaining near 100% envenom uptime? I feel like I keep dipping low and running out of energy and tea charges on a long enough fight..

[main bridge]

[final star]

you don't

play for 50% energy and above instead

[lapis flax]

I see, I see. Ok

[final star]

maintain all bleeds

etc

[lapis flax]

So chaining envenoms is less important than 50%+ energy?

[final star]

Is this with the new one button thingy

[royal lantern]

that not true really?

like, ONLY on bleed build and there its a extremely minor 0,something% minmax

[midnight oar]

that hurts

[final star]

Genuine question cos if not

give the assisted thing a try

see what it does

then compare it to the guide

and what the guide says

[runic hinge]

Wish you would assist me

[final star]

and see how you can improve

[runic hinge]

With deeze

[final star]

cos assisted rotation is only -7% dps

and you are like

-50%

[royal lantern]

if you play bleed build, Crimson Tempest has priority over envenom, even on ST fights

if you dont play bleed build, just slam ability and dont care about chaining, you will have near 100% envenom uptime by default

assa st dmg in m+ is nit that high rn unless you 100% build for it (which needs extremely high keys that only a handfull of players do + specific team comps)

[lapis flax]

Yeah I'm gonna drop back to bleed build, I don't have the numbers for the st kingsbane build I think

[runic hinge]

Pooling is irrelevant. Envenom uptime is irrelevant. Just hit button

[burnt star]

What happened to the 4 min deathmark?

Cant tell much otherwise. Im on phone. But u should def be higher then that. Like way higher

[final star]

Everything that can be done wrong, he does

[tawdry root]

Did you die that pull? no casts after like 4 mins and the fight lasts 5

[final star]

So I suggest assisted rotation on dummies

He died, yeah

[midnight oar]

I guess I did indeed I would have hit a few key else

[midnight oar]

Could you be a bit more explicit maybe ?

[final star]

Start learning the spec again from zero

and forget everything you think you know

read through the wowhead guide and look through top logs

to replicate what they do

in their rotation

click casts -> timelines to see

Like how did you manage to not hit boss for 4 seconds

[tawdry root]

One quick thing is that your cd windows seem off. For example in the opener you dont have envenom up for the first 6s of DM/KB, and your second shiv was late with missed a lot of KB damage

[midnight oar]

Indeed I saw recently that I need to evenom first to boost the KB

[tawdry root]

Then on second Deathmark, it takes you like 7 seconds to cast KB after DM

which is a lot of DPS loss

[final star]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps

If you can't understand as it's in English

[strange tundra]

how tf do u customise the DISC belt, the npc doesnt let me

[final star]

Copy the link into chatgpt and get it to translate for you

[final star]

right click it whilst it's equipped

[tawdry root]

so i think one quick thing you can improve on is making sure you can do the CD rotation well, its pretty much always the same

And then just general melee DPS improvements like maximize uptime on the boss, etc

[strange tundra]

legend, how was i supposed to find it out

[earnest remnant]

the belt has a text

[strange tundra]

who reads

[coral ibex]

"how could i be expected to read the instructions"

https://tenor.com/view/jordymarajj-jodiprnt-gif-20989916

[strange tundra]

exactly u get me

i just read this part

[final star]

or this even

[wet spire]

imagine ignoring the most important part lol

[final star]

Is correct

[strange tundra]

🥀💔😭

[final star]

This is what you did @midnight oar

[tawdry root]

Also, not sure what happened but you don't ambush once in like 1:30 mins. For me mutilate automatically changes to ambush when it procs, so idk why its not coming up for you but thats a lot of energy wasted if you're not using the ambush procs

[strange tundra]

and where do i get electric current

at end chests?

[final star]

read the wowhead guide

[main bridge]

or read the item

[final star]

it says it in there

[strange tundra]

bro 😭

[wet spire]

mouse over the one you want and it tells you where to get it

[coral ibex]

yeat reading 💀

[main bridge]

it would have been faster to just read instead of typing in here

[midnight oar]

Normally I don't waste a proc of ambush

[wet spire]

brother you need to read lol

[strange tundra]

i know im in that delve, im just saying does it drop from mobs or at the end in chests

[final star]

I think I've seen @strange tundra on twitter recently actually

@grok is this true?

[coral ibex]

completion

[wet spire]

you get it at the end

[strange tundra]

ty

[strange tundra]

idk if its some joke im supposed to get but im banned on twitter

[midnight oar]

I read it. I probably lack practicing the DM + KB build

[final star]

it's the only build that's really been played in raid

since the start of the expac

So I guess you just played m+

[midnight oar]

I'm back in wow since 2 approx. 2months

and rogue was not my main

[wet spire]

very new player and language barrier probably a little

[tawdry root]

Yeah idk, but it should have proc'd at least once in a minute and 30 seconds lol, so make sure youre using them

[final star]

Seems to line up to me

[tawdry root]

damn so is that just insane rng

[wet spire]

yeah looks like rough rng lol

that feels bad tbh lol

[final star]

This is what good rng looks like

[wet spire]

this is when you parse lol

[final star]

yeah it's straight up like

+300k dps

if you giga proc

disgusting

it's impossible to parse gallywix if you kill it fast now

cos if u skip 7m adds

gg

[wet spire]

bro

i either do 2.8 on m gally or 4 mil

depends on if my group nukes the adds or not

[maiden sierra]

So whats the lore on whispyrs account?

Did he not follow the rogue announcment?

[quiet oriole]

Pretty sure he's the reason for it

[coral ibex]

bro got phished somehow

or got a token session stolen

most likely just a bad click

[maiden sierra]

Whispyr right now:

[runic hinge]

Phisher account was someone he knew from college. Used his govt name. Used the 2d game thing when the guy did some coding. Now I think his pc is infected badly and a windows reinstall didn’t fix it

Oh wait actually it was asking him to check out AI upscale art of his prot pally

[quiet oriole]

I bet it was because of the furrie corn

[strange tundra]

his friend backstabbed him

[coral ibex]

oh right he got actually social engineered in the worst way

by someone he knows

so scummy to do that to someone you know

[strange tundra]

yeah

if u hate someone u can fuck them in other ways

[maiden sierra]

What i love about this community

This could all be true

Or a great gaslight

[main bridge]

well Whispyr said himself this is what happened

[buoyant minnow]

hi

My guild wants me to do cages on Mug'Zee mythic

I think that sin isn't very good for that but is it that bad?

I've heard that you can cleave both add with caustic by hitting boss even through the cages, not sure if it's true

[maiden sierra]

Tell your raid lead hes been cooked too long in the oven and that you know where he lives

[buoyant minnow]

ahah

[wet spire]

you will eventually get picked for one but you shouldnt need to actaully go in a cage until the last set

[vocal basalt]

I think the bigger issue is maintaining the dn proc and having to potentially sit on it for the add

[coral ibex]

it is better for your cleave to be outside and most other specs are better at being in the cage but if you going in the cage results in faster prog you can just save vanish for it

[buoyant minnow]

I'll bring it in a nicer way but yeah I usually don't argue when they ask me to do mechanics but for this one I think it's particularly bad

yeah I've been keeping vanish for it

[wet spire]

yeah its not good for sin rogue to swap targets like that

[coral ibex]

at this point in the tier you are probably ilvl 683 and damage is not the problem

[buoyant minnow]

But it's also really annoying I kingsbane the boss and have to run to the cage while it's still active

[golden loom]

hit him with the classic

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtlety.

[maiden sierra]

My guild trying to reclear this fight and keep wiping due to silly mistakes while skipping half the fight with dps

[coral ibex]

yea its wild what people will do in reclear

[golden loom]

last week our reclear of mugzee was 45 pulls

[coral ibex]

2 weeks ago we spent 30 pulls on mugzee because people literally just would not soak

[golden loom]

this week it was 3

[coral ibex]

like

what the fuck?

[buoyant minnow]

thanks for the advice I'll ask my raid leader if it's possible for someone else to be assigned ^^

[coral ibex]

yea this week we 2 shot it

amazing what happens when people just do the fuckin mechs

[maiden sierra]

Reclear is the worst, all brain power is gone after getting CE

Guild cooked

[coral ibex]

but the upside is we recruited a bunch of new people so all the old raiders who are checked out can just sit bench for farm

[wet spire]

my favorite is people dying in intermission

[coral ibex]

all the trials are in rn

the vibes are great

bc they all wanna earn their spot

[golden loom]

I am not happy with our kill this week though

[maiden sierra]

Any insider betting on who will pass?

[coral ibex]

probably all of them

[golden loom]

I just fkin walked into tank frontal after cage soak..

[buoyant minnow]

unfortunate

I just killed bandit yesterday but it was such a disaster near the end nearly everyone got a very bad parse

[golden loom]

and on gally re-kill we for some reason lacked damage, got 2nd intermission and I shadowstepped the boss and landed in a beam

I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE shadowstep on gally

[coral ibex]

bro i got 4th ball set on stix this week and died to the hyenas/scrapmasters i picked up

we tried to 2 heal it

im not joking

[golden loom]

I was not in on stix and they 1 shot it with the cleanest kill so far

I think I am the problem

all my homies hate gally (and yes we did not kill him in 2 weeks of reclear before yesterday)

[coral ibex]

11.1.7 numbers are lower than 11.1.5 bc less cleave so logs arent even fun

[golden loom]

+10% billion damage and slower kill..

[coral ibex]

mugzee

[golden loom]

[wet spire]

i wish i could cleave on mugzee

but they put the jails too far apart

sadge

[golden loom]

idk I feel like I have had so many mugzee pulls that went insane

[coral ibex]

i was fully unethical on my last 2m

[golden loom]

just to die

[coral ibex]

i did not go in cages

[golden loom]

and then on kill pulls its just sadge

[coral ibex]

got DM+KB cleave on 2 goons

and then boss died

xd

[golden loom]

I was thinking about it but I am also scared the cage will just 1 shot whoevers soaking

[coral ibex]

never went in a cage btw

[golden loom]

and then you wipe to enraged add

[buoyant minnow]

well raid leader said no I'm still doing the jails

unlucky

[coral ibex]

whats your comp

[wet spire]

i feel that our rl was having us hold dps for like 25 sec

felt tragic

[fallow canopy]

I too enjoy playing russian roulette

[buoyant minnow]

idk what's the most optimal way to post the comp

a kill log?

[wet spire]

yeah probably

[coral ibex]

literally any way

doesnt matter

[buoyant minnow]

we're supposed to have a DH but he recently stopped

[golden loom]

well I hope the warlock atleast is in one cage

[buoyant minnow]

raid leader says he wants melee in them

[golden loom]

..

[fallow canopy]

...

[coral ibex]

warlock, feral, 2 dps warriors, and a frost dk

[wet spire]

bruh lol

[coral ibex]

why do you need to go in

wtf

[golden loom]

warlocks want to be in the cage

[tawdry root]

fire mage too

[golden loom]

well fire mage does not want to be in the cage

[wet spire]

fire could be in both cages and on boss

[tawdry root]

Yeah they can do the displacement/AT tech to soak

[buoyant minnow]

idk my raid leader make odd decision but I usually go with what he said

[coral ibex]

unlucky

[wet spire]

unfortunately you might have to if hes got you in them you might nuke someone if you stay out

rip

[buoyant minnow]

except when he asked me if it was possible to swap to wounding poison for first boss to reduce healing

[coral ibex]

WHAT

[wet spire]

brother

dude is wild

lol

[golden loom]

I am so sorry

[buoyant minnow]

ahah

[coral ibex]

YOU HAVE AN ARMS WARRIOR

[buoyant minnow]

I don't mind doing it though I just want to kill the boss ahah

[coral ibex]

bro

have some self respect

next time a RL asks you to play wound poison tell them they removed that ability in a recent patch

and just never screenshare

"no i dont have that ability sorry"

[buoyant minnow]

I said no for wound poison lol

[golden loom]

just tell them they made it into a pvp talent

[coral ibex]

this goes hard

[buoyant minnow]

ahah

[wet spire]

they removed it with windfury

[royal lantern]

if you have any warrior/monk/hunter/dh in your group, heal reduction is allready active

bruh

[wet spire]

he probably thinks it stacks

[buoyant minnow]

Yeah we had a monk

[bright charm]

try telling him to stop getting high before bosses

[buoyant minnow]

nevermind he sais he'll get the frost DK in my place for the jail

woo

[wet spire]

is there any other way to kill bosses?

[golden loom]

lets go

[bright charm]

get drunk before bosses

[wet spire]

idk about that lol

im not a drinker really

[bright charm]

get sleep deprived before bosses

[wet spire]

thats every raid night tbh, im a degen and stay up until like 2 am and wake up at 6am for work kek

[coral ibex]

ive been raiding 10p-1a for 2 tiers

we're moving back to 9-12 tho!!!

[golden loom]

same, also why im glad we are a 2 day guild

dead every monday though

[wet spire]

lol

we raid tues and weds

[golden loom]

wed/sunday