im gonna riot
#assassination
royal lantern
indigo mulch
indigo mulch
Atleast name the npc Voidthion
static glacier
Might be a good idea to copy pasta the tier set effects into this pin
indigo mulch
I really hope they do put some changes into fatebound aoe. I hate to see it being dead on arrival because the raid is cleave heavy again.
humble verge
probably.
royal lantern
if he doesnt show up with his wardrobe of cloaks im out
dont need a "lore reason" or anything like that
its a Special cloak
just lett him show up and say "yo, new cool cloak for you!"
limpid flume
okay its time to cook how dogshit is it to run fatebound over deathstalker xdd
i am sick of deathstalkers mark
royal lantern
@runic hinge what will stu get for his birthday
static glacier
Who was phone
I’m on phone
haughty flicker
can confirm im the phone
runic hinge
<@221124352861667340> what will stu get for his birthday
A full walnut and some new toys. Probably some orange too
royal lantern
lethal arrow
Shiv increases the effectiveness of all Deathstalker damage effects and damage bonuses by 50% while active.
doesnt this just mean the dry shiv is now 100% mandatory
so our rotation doesnt even change
marble hemlock
please stop using chat GPT for shit like this. like, just stop.
we got an aura buff and big changes to ambush (that changed our talent selection) in the class tuning at the end of march, and NO class got changes in 11.1.7 so what is it even doing there
royal lantern
so our rotation doesnt even change
maybe some small changes like "dont use shiv when DN is up"
but both sets seem passive
the fatebound set just has the more interesting effect by making you a 90sec spec
lethal arrow
maybe some small changes like "dont use shiv when DN is up"
yeah i figured it reads like it wont change too much
marble hemlock
we got major changes to vanish/master assassin/subterfuge too, so anyone saying that assa didnt get any attention since TWW launched is just talking out their ass, and id like them to pull their pants up
prime hull
we got major changes to vanish/master assassin/subterfuge too, so anyone saying ...
Yes this subterfuge change was very nice, one of my favorite changes they did.
marble hemlock
assa probably got more changes since TWW launch halfway into the expac, than it got in bfa+SL combined
royal lantern
assa probably got more changes since TWW launch halfway into the expac, than it ...
allright, i fully agree with everything you said
but "more changes them bfa+sl combined" is not a big thing in the first place 
marble hemlock
but ye seriously. if you wanna make a proper point/engage in an argument, actually put in the work yourself, and stop relying on generative AI. it pisses me off.
just cause youre called lazyshadow, doesnt mean you have to be lazy.
indigo mulch
I mean it is in my name :p
pliant remnant
marble hemlock
Quite the come up of having a new user clover and now a Shadowblade. Congrats
bribes are acceptable and encouraged
harsh anchor
indigo mulch
Its just way easier to use something like gpt to sum up something than diving through all of the patch notes. Whenever you agree with me or not, we did not get that many changes over this 10 month period. I'm not saying we didn't get anything but going through 2 major patches without anything really happening to the spec does feel bad. Thats my opinion. I'm sure there are other people feeling the same way even if you don't agree with it.
indigo mulch
We don't have to agree about everything, but that's my point of view at least.
main bridge
yeah you said that like five times
indigo mulch
I keep saying it so noone gets offended :p
white sandal
Give a few days for everyone to logg
zenith elm
How ?
white sandal
new patch, new logs
lethal arrow
stall ur cds
zenith elm
Yeah but it doesnt see to touch some enemies sometimes
Like first set of adds, do i need to be on the adds to for caustic splatter to apply?
marble hemlock
Its just way easier to use something like gpt to sum up something than diving th...
youre essentially saying
"it is way easier to use something that is very likely to give false information that will help me prove my already weak argument im trying to make"
zenith elm
Even for rupture ?
white sandal
WOuld you apply a bleed to regen energy sometimes or just never ever swap ?
zenith elm
Does it changes our dps a lot ?
grand trail
Seli very mad
marble hemlock
thats why i said to just stop. its not getting better. assa got changes almost every patch/class tuning, 11.2 is the first exception in it, and we dont know if more stuff is coming down the line. maybe it wont, but even then, its fine
marble hemlock
if you want regular major changes to your spec, go play shadow. they get one every other patch, and over half of them are trash
prime hull
im just excited because this means the rogue rework is actually coming in the new expansion instead of the last patch for once
zenith elm
And i cant do anything about it i guess ? 🤡
waxen oyster
sabotge your devoker
marble hemlock
im just excited because this means the rogue rework is actually coming in the ne...
prime hull
and to be honest assa plays very well atm and has been for a while. Only sub is in dire need of changes imo
zenith elm
Caustic apply only from 5m from the boss + melee strike around me no?
marble hemlock
and to be honest assa plays very well atm and has been for a while. Only sub is ...
outlaw too, but not for the reasons outlaw players would say
marble hemlock
but any spec that has a 0.8sec GCD and >60apm in a game like wow is fundamentally fucked
prime hull
The new last boss is the size of stormwind, we will caustic the entire map
lethal arrow
Like first set of adds, do i need to be on the adds to for caustic splatter to a...
i like sniping ruptures for energy
but basically
u wanna just hold ur burst for after he spawns the guys
zenith elm
Not on the shields ??
prime hull
but any spec that has a 0.8sec GCD and >60apm in a game like wow is fundamentall...
Im going to enjoy the forced killing spree dowtime
zenith elm
Or are you talking about 2.50 min when he spawns the 4 adds ?
zenith elm
Yeah i do that
lethal arrow
tbh im holding anyways cuz i like soothing all of them
lethal arrow
could link ur log
also kill time matters
we killed during my 2nd pot towarsd the end
marble hemlock
too low dmg on a boss where damage literally doesnt matter? 
zenith elm
Nope
zenith elm
Yeah ? So Rl and officiers are smoking ? Lol
lethal arrow
so pre 30% it looks like shit
marble hemlock
do they know that youre a class that always looks ass on the meters because most prog pulls arent in execute?
marble hemlock
cause if youre 10% behind everyone else during most of prog, thats you doing fine, cuz youll make that up with 2nd pot during execute and full CDs lmao
zenith elm
I know, just want to do better you know
marble hemlock
ye thats totally fair
but gally is legit just a "dont die" boss, the dps check on that boss is incredibly light
lethal arrow
I can send you a vod of our reclear
marble hemlock
assa cant do much on that fight other than hit boss
zenith elm
I can send you a vod of our reclear
I'd like that haha
zenith elm
Will watch it when i wake up tomorrow
prime hull
To be honest assa shouldnt show up in rhe top 5 at all on gally
lethal arrow
just skip to the end of it or so and thatll be the kill
yeah i dont think so either but hey
it is what it is
marble hemlock
To be honest assa shouldnt show up in rhe top 5 at all on gally
real
zenith elm
Thanks man, love you all
velvet ridge
yooo new stealth potion?
nova kelp
oh we got a killing spree fix to what I used to suggest in bfa
should be fun - nothing says "trickster" like pulling out a gun and firing blindly into the crowd
I hope we get a better way to manage deathstalkers mark on sin
winged sun
no raid buffs no scent of blood 22m envenom
looks like sin might be spattering too hard in M+ next season
gg
45k agi trinket + tier bonus is going crazy
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winged sun
45k agility trinket ye
zenith elm
Is it active ?
zenith elm
Raid or dungeon??
indigo mulch
Thats going to be interesting when everyone uses that @2min 😄
The entire raid dips kekw
nova kelp
we all gona be playing 90 second coin flipper though!
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
haughty flicker
make assa 90s class
add op 2m trinket
nova kelp
bring back class wide dance, rework sub
winged sun
idk
haughty flicker
agi spymasters
winged sun
yes
theres a crazy mastery trinket
but idk how good it is
stats look super super high
but
its from delves
zenith elm
2min priory
I hate priory
distant helm
bunch of options
zenith elm
raid has 2 good on use for stats too
Oooh yeah? Main stat and what else ?
distant helm
can tell you in a sec exactly once im past this loading screen (spoiler it will take a while)
waxen oyster
double on use season?
indigo mulch
Is there no other 1:30 trinkets so far? D:
distant helm
ye i said the thats the one zero linked
indigo mulch
45k agi for 30s is kind of nuts. 😒
distant helm
it decays
indigo mulch
Even if its decaying
waxen oyster
yeah we'll see how fast it decays
are you fr gonna be spending one trinket with dry shivs
indigo mulch
I mean if it decays every second. Its 1.5k agi per second that your losing.
winged sun
thats like
double the mastery i already have
theres no way it doesnt get nerfed
14k mastery vs a 30k mastery trinket
winged sun
it basically says increase ur mastery by 200%
indigo mulch
but collecting balls 😦
In raid 😦
I still see the stupid ball floating off the last platform on ansurek 😦
rip trinket.
haughty flicker
i dont see any balls to collect
indigo mulch
oh
haughty flicker
it just grants you a fragment, doesnt say anything about having to go gobble balls
indigo mulch
Ohhh
Then yeah, its good D:
I thought it was like small fragments that drops on the ground that you have to collect.
Reading is hard.
haughty flicker
even if you could read its a blizzard tooltip so cant trust it in the first place
fallow canopy
it just grants you a fragment, doesnt say anything about having to go gobble bal...
dissapointed
visual sun
I trust sadwhispyr pins more than I trust blizzard
haughty flicker
dissapointed
its ok can still find time to gobble balls in free time
winged sun
theres absolutely no way
fallow canopy
its ok can still find time to gobble balls in free time
I wanted to mix business with pleasure for once
haughty flicker
wrathion is hiding it
distant helm
distant helm
cant wait for everyone and their mother wanting the boots
winged sun
are the most busted trinkets i've ever seen in a long time
literlaly more busted than boon
in s1 DF
royal lantern
mate, its newly released stuff on the ptr
winged sun
8m opener on M+ build is literaly crazy
royal lantern
the numbers say 0
winged sun
its literally just trinket
and tier set
this shit is like
doubledipping my dmg
or someshit
distant helm
i mean yeah but they will adjust most of this stuff most likely still
winged sun
yea 100%
distant helm
the design of the trinkets is defo good though
indigo mulch
I mean all of the numbers dosen't really matter at this point tbh D:
Is there an agi trinket at 90s though? D:
distant helm
Is there an agi trinket at 90s though? D:
yes the new dungeon has one
6 item lootpool too, should be easy to farm
gives mastery on use
distant helm
dmg does tend to double going from tier to tier tbf
haughty flicker
Subs tier doesnt work
sub is bugged?
indigo mulch
lol, has sub's tier worked on day 1 ptr ever?
flint tusk
lol, has sub's tier worked on day 1 ptr ever?
You're assuming it ever gets fixed. pretty sure S2 tier for sub is still bugged xD
marble hemlock
might just be a thematic thing to allow us to move between different areas
i hope theres no actual mechanic tied to it this time like on tindral with the rings and shit
bronze pike
the boss i huge
runic hinge
tindral pog
The best boss of all time
hollow lily
i hope theres no actual mechanic tied to it this time like on tindral with the r...
Bad news
distant helm
i hope theres no actual mechanic tied to it this time like on tindral with the r...
did sound like that when i was reading it tbh
hollow lily
There is
scarlet wyvern
if i am in a grp with vdh, priest, mage and ele is Assa best pick or can i play Outlaw too?
distant helm
and theres a bunch of stuff you seem you need to dodge including not flying into the boss otherwise you die from what i could tell from the journal
nova kelp
imagine all the thematic parrying you're going to miss out on
nova kelp
lol better get ready to loooooooooooooose your mind
cosmic robin
So Xal is helping us, huh
nova kelp
probably more that helping us temporarily is helping herself
I hope she sticks around forever and we get a persistent threat for a change other than
"I wonder who the next traitorous horde character is going to be"
or
"oh a new old god for us to kill in a single patch"
fallow canopy
The best boss of all time
My PTSD is already kicking in
haughty flicker
last guild died to tindral, time for this guild to die to the next dragonriding boss
harsh anchor
Tindral trained us for this boss
nova kelp
fark
nova kelp
tindral and fyrakk were cool bosses imo
distant helm
yeah my fyrakk opinion is prob ruined bc we had massive weakaura problems
runic hinge
I thought they both were kinda hot
fallow canopy
I thought they both were kinda hot
They were
spice surge
Well ye fyrakk stinky because WA
nova kelp
looks like our first tindral kill was pull 290
distant helm
yup
nova kelp
tindral was fun if you were featherbombing
haughty flicker
fallow canopy
tindral was fun if you were featherbombing
Ye although the fun didn't last enough for my mental to not go boom
haughty flicker
idk it was pretty fun dying midair and watching your body fall to the ground
was also when pings were first added iirc so we were just pinging each other as we fell
hidden bay
i didnt play shadowlands/dragonflight no idea what you talk about
nova kelp
we had a ton of pulls with the midair death because our RL tank would see someone out of position and just deliberately do the soak circles incorrectly to obliterate the raid
haughty flicker
our tanks just messed it up natty
died so many times to it a bunch of us changed our details names to mushroom puns
feral mason
tindral was fun if you were featherbombing
speaking of tindral
what are we thinkin about dragonriding in raid fights
it may be making its return on the big boy
haughty flicker
thats what brought him up ye
feral mason
Ah
haughty flicker
void feet lets us fly
feral mason
my raid is not dodging those planets
nova kelp
my favourite bit was when someone would try and do something midflight, and not realise it will dismount you
so their falling body would hurtle to the ground for 3 solid minutes before finally wiping
feral mason
I was going to check out the cloak on ptr just to see what that phasediving thing is and how it’d interact
But that questline is long
just gotta datamine it
Been up for a while
Unless it went back down
mightve crashed 20 minutes or so ago i left the computer
coral ibex
feral mason
i opened some class discords after patch notes
shadow priests were talking about “pulling a warlock” (not doing any sims whatsoever to sandbag their power level)
so theyre doing okay I think
median root
Yo they kinda cooked with these sets, the ability to be a 1.5min or 2min class on demand is cool
visual sun
mine takes like 5 mins to load before wow screen pops up
main bridge
Whispyr is running like five bitcoin miners so that's probably why
winged sun
for belt?
main bridge
which dungeon gives electric current power
mouse over the belt modules it tells you where
winged sun
ok ok, idk why it has 30 sec cd when i equip
main bridge
you can just do a tier 1 also
worthy rose
does the delve belt outscale the 681 crafted belt
am i gonna have to change out my rogue belt
feral mason
it should
worthy rose
charged bolt perk seems pretty pog
fuck i wasted 90 crests on rogue
and prob 5k gold
proper schooner
I guess thats it im top 1/5 658 ilvl rogues on heroic
worthy rose
never gonna financialy recover from this
proper schooner
by ilvl parses
Yea im just built so diff its crazy
I can quit the game happy now
tall jay
Do we just keep running the delves to get the “gem” slot for the belt? I must have missed something
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spice surge
Do we just keep running the delves to get the “gem” slot for the belt? I must ha...
No
It just has it
And a regular gem
tall jay
Ok so how do we get our bis
worthy rose
the gem socket on belt is prismatic
throw in your favourite gem
you do delves or do whatever to unlock perks for the belt
then you use the belt to switch what perks you want
theres a wowhead guide on how to unlock perks
but currently im pretty sure charged bolt is the best
and thats the default starter one
so just leave it on that until further notice
tall jay
Ok that makes sense I was confuse
spice surge
Ok so how do we get our bis
You have the charged bolts already
Just right click the belt
tall jay
Confused
worthy rose
yes
click to use the belt
it opens up the customization menu
and you can choose with perk to use
charged bolt should be the default one
tall jay
Awesome muck love fam
haughty flicker
kum
tall jay
🙂
sacred zealot
Yo they kinda cooked with these sets, the ability to be a 1.5min or 2min class o...
it won't make you a 1.5 min class anyways, if you proc it once per two minutes, it will make your deathmark 1:30 sure, but your kingsbane 45 sec interval, which you end up having to hold deathmark for another 15 sec
haughty flicker
spice surge
You dont need to hold
sacred zealot
its 2:30 am give me a break man
lmao
how does that shit proc again?
never fatebounded in my life
median root
Gdi spinz you make me doubt myself
sacred zealot
ahhh gotcha so its not a rng thing its a sure thing
spice surge
With the new set yes
sacred zealot
my logic was like this in my head: so lets say i have 40 sec left on deathmark and kingsbane cuz i've used them obviously together, and i proc that shit, then its 10 sec left for deathmark now, and 25 left for kingsbane
because it reduced 30 sec on deathmark and 15 on kingsbane
in this case you'd need to hold deathmark for another 15 sec to cast together with kingsbane so im not that cooked, i just didn't know how fatebound works
spice surge
150 is an unfortunate timer to cap
But theres is a decent 2 min that decays too, but that one you linked is probably the play for 90s like sub or fatebound
spice surge
Well ye
feral mason
Can just send at 120 without much loss
spice surge
But if it took 3 minutes to cap instead of 2:30
It would be more fine to hold longer
Since you wouldnt lose anything
(like using it every other for sub as an example)
worthy rose
can i just double check
with u peeps
rogue next season bis trinkets as far as we know
are they still dungeon drops
marble hemlock
that trinket is basically "ashvanes razor coral at home"
worthy rose
or do we have to actually raid
worthy rose
i said as far as we know 
marble hemlock
we dont
thorn thorn
the PTR literally went up today
Hi is sin gonna be meta next season
marble hemlock
no. only DH can be meta, no other class has that spell
worthy rose
outlaw will be meta
thorn thorn
Real
worthy rose
killing spree is now shooting spree
spice surge
no. only DH can be meta, no other class has that spell
True and based
spice surge
Outlaw gets a cool new animation but sub cant get kyveza clones copy pasted onto sectech
thorn thorn
If Fatebound is playable next season I will play sin
But for now its looking like im gonna become evil blue man in robes
thorn thorn
I want my stronger kingsbane
marble hemlock
its not stronger, just lasts longer
thorn thorn
And stronger kingsbane is currently being held hostage by fatebound
marble hemlock
but it climaxes at the same speed
thorn thorn
Is 10% not stronger or
marble hemlock
10%?
oh yeah that
ehh
its mostly the 4sec duration thatll make it solid
2 extra ticks at max stacks is kinda bigly
thorn thorn
So if fatebound bad then rip
worthy rose
unholy and frost look promising
assassination looks like no changes at all
the only reason id play rogue is if the trinkets we need are dungeon drops
and i can rush acquire a set of hero track
marble hemlock
kinda unlikely looking atm
but i mean
arakara+priory trinkets should be good enough for a while
thorn thorn
i dont even know what to play next season
Spin a wheel
Wheel told me to play BM
And mage
jaunty lotus
Is that... up to 55k AGI on use?
spice surge
Yes
jaunty lotus
God damn blizz
I hope they add cartel chips again so we don't have to keep farming this shit
spice surge
Well theres a regular ass 2 minute trinket thats good too
hollow talon
whos this sadwhispyr guy in the pins am i being phished
worthy rose
i need someone to give me a rogue guid efor dummies
in prep for next season
oneof yall have to play like a fiend on the ptr
make that guide
youl be doing gods work
and that one of yall is probably whispy
runic hinge
Brother there was 0 assa changes
Not a single note
If you can dry shiv you can play assa
spice surge
Moreso waiting for simc to be updated with all the sets and trinkets
They somehow find new ways to make our sadwhispyr more sad
worthy rose
im more talking about a guide for gearing
hidden bay
shit got announced 5h ago
worthy rose
who am i gonna copy next season
hidden bay
calm down guys
runic hinge
Why be a copy when you can be an og
worthy rose
coz i aint good enough to be an og
considering
floodgate and priory are in the rotation still
are we going to be using signet and seaforium again
LOL
that would be hilraious
720ilvl seaforium and signet
runic hinge
Probably
worthy rose
memes of glory
spice surge
No because it seems like the new raid trinkets are not complete dogshit
Like the current ones are
polar rampart
wow, we just do the same content with new skins every 6 months
worthy rose
prayge we dont get forced to raid
actually
sacbrood in rotation too
it might be sacbrood and seaforium
or sacbrood and signet
spice surge
So buy hc
spice surge
No
worthy rose
il wait for gear guides
or copy whoever
based chainbleed
he may be my model once again
visual sun
Brother there was 0 assa changes
i plugged it in chatgpt and gave me this gem
runic hinge
Don’t use AI
cerulean walrus
He’s been working on a game with some friends for the last four weeks.
polar rampart
wow, do you have a zipfile i can download to give my feedback?
bronze pike
i plugged it in chatgpt and gave me this gem
i mean what did u want to see tho
personally
spice surge
Fatebound changes for example for assa
thorn thorn
I have been summoned by Fatebound talk
haughty flicker
it would be nice to not lose damage for free if something happens to be next to me
spice surge
And for sub id like them to fix deathstalker, or but keeping it irrelevant is fine too
New set seems ass for deathstalker though so its fine 
bronze pike
real
bronze pike
it would be nice to not lose damage for free if something happens to be next to ...
that would be nice
but it would be nice if people say that
instead of making weird posts about no changes
cause usually its differentt then what the norm wants
so i like to see the specific of peoples personal wishlists
haughty flicker
my personal wishlist is valeeras daggers
nova kelp
there's a ton I'd like to see for rogue, but mentioning it causes big fluffy conversations sometimes - and sometimes you just can't be assed
haughty flicker
i want to see that in a patch note
hidden bay
I have been summoned by Fatebound talk
nova kelp
there are a lot of things we could do to smooth gameplay with needlessly pointy edges
thorn thorn
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
Im a true believer
hidden bay
same
fallow canopy
Im a true believer
im a false believer
haughty flicker
mfers will call themselves believers then didnt even play fatebound on sprocket
spice surge
there are a lot of things we could do to smooth gameplay with needlessly pointy ...
Deathstalker sub ideally cancelauraing darkest night in aoe is probably more than a pointy edge tbh
humble verge
Im a true believer
cinder geode
Do yall have any tips for mythic gally, my guild is subbing me in tmrw i literally have never gotten a pull on it lol
rose wind
have we determined which thingy is best for the new belt?
cinder geode
advice to beat is do dps dont die thats a pretty low bar im open to any other suggestions
amber brook
Does feint work on mug zee soak mines?
nova kelp
Deathstalker sub ideally cancelauraing darkest night in aoe is probably more tha...
Yeah, it's mostly generalised things, making simple functions less taxing and just branding them automatically as a spec function
like the ability to target switch on sin, or making dsmark just generally not so problematic, making fatebound more engaging etc etc
not necessarily grand changes but functional ones
stuff like that though is a roughy
true nexus
is chargedbolts hitting stuff while yall are in stealth? lol
spice surge
Yes
true nexus
oh i see thers a macro
spice surge
You can macro cancelaura to your stealth bind
true nexus
damage loss macro rip
lethal arrow
where the new trinekts at
amber brook
old whispyr named sao in pins
polar rampart
hacker took over his old life
novel star
fatebound redemption arc 
haughty flicker
maybe you should buy you
thats pretty meta
at least he still plays xenon and lumi
amber brook
Anyone in the phantom cord
runic hinge
How much does he want? 300?
amber brook
What do people get buying discord accounts honestly
runic hinge
Wait what
hollow river
damn man
main bridge
like the early adopter one
runic hinge
Who cares about shit like that lol
hollow river
Who cares about shit like that lol
you'd be surprised
people also buy discord accounts that are old
just to look more legitimate when scamming
runic hinge
Oh shit they’re after me
hollow river
i lost my first account years ago 
grave trail
wasnt it an IRL friend that stole your account?
haughty flicker
a prot pally got his ass
grave trail
O_o
hollow river
wasnt it an IRL friend that stole your account?
or the irl friend's acc got compromised and got him
idk
grave trail
ah gotcha
timber pawn
Confused about something in the tier 3 sets, Whysper states that Capstone is guaranteed in opener, how is this?
season 3*
runic hinge
Zar tried to get me last night but the hacker stopped replying when I asked for a favor back
(It was gonna be feet pics)
somber sparrow
fatebound in s3: good luck timing trinkets to cooldowns!!
earnest remnant
Nuh uh
somber sparrow
I don’t believe in those. Or fatebound
main bridge
fallow canopy
:3
haughty flicker
:3
somber sparrow
E:
timber pawn
will have to come out of the raid, no 90 sec trinks in any of M+ dungeons next season
dapper cradle
timber pawn
PVP trinkets aint gonna be viable in mythic raid, zero chance
earnest remnant
There is 90s trinkets
haughty flicker
PVP trinkets aint gonna be viable in mythic raid, zero chance
yeah sub definitely wasnt using pvp trinket this tier until they got hoc
timber pawn
key word there is until
somber sparrow
I’m definitely interested in trying fatebound one day it’s just not really viable on anything but one boss so I haven’t tried it
runic hinge
Just use hoc
haughty flicker
i'd argue it being your second best trinket is entirely viable
earnest remnant
If there werent we just complain again and they turn one of Them into one
haughty flicker
true
runic hinge
Real
earnest remnant
Like they did with HoC
timber pawn
double passive trink would be boring but I'd wager more viable than pvp trinkets
hallow glade
Have at least crystal and sacbrood this rotation
timber pawn
Sacbrood and Seaforium maybe?
fallow canopy
i'd argue it being your second best trinket is entirely viable
being used during prog this tier surely means it wasnt viable
runic hinge
PvP trinket synced with your cds is definitely gonna be better than double passive lol
I mean it’s champ level
Especially cause we’re a cd spec
Like what are we doing here
earnest remnant
Tin foiling.
haughty flicker
make a joke and get um akshuallyed
main bridge
that's the internet for ya
hollow river
PVP trinkets aint gonna be viable in mythic raid, zero chance
you would be very surprised
timber pawn
the primary stat difference between a champ pvp trinket and myth track m+ or raid loot is going to be massive I guess we will see when they datamine everything and crunch the math
hollow river
its a small diff
runic hinge
the primary stat difference between a champ pvp trinket and myth track m+ or rai...
I mean is it two passive trinkets vs a passive and a PvP on use? Cause like, getting stats during your cds is good. I’m not saying you’d run a PvP trinket all season but until you hit a 90 second trinket you could. Just like sub did this current season.
main bridge
what can i do about low single target damage with bleed build? i feel useless on bosses
haughty flicker
hit the boss harder
runic hinge
Just think about how much aoe damage you do
worn geyser
have yall ever seen the the minibosses at end of cinderbrew die without getting their full hp regain after u kill one? i jus had it happen like 2 got sudden demised or something before they could get their health regen off , is that tech i just didnt know about
on a 10 on my 2nd rogue
subtle tundra
wtf realz replied to my messages and i went to sleep last night
haughty flicker
runic hinge
nova kelp
wtf realz replied to my messages and i went to sleep last night
let this be a lessen to you, sleeping is a luxury, only to be done when you can afford it
neat flame
i love how rogue ptr notes are literally one set of bullet pts for outlaw, and other classes have a small novel
errant swallow
Yep
polar rampart
but changing ks is a win
neat flame
for outLUL yes
i mean that said id honestly be fine with minimal changes for sin, i think the only thing id really like is deathstalkers mark to be self buff to permit target swapping not being incredibly painful
vapid jacinth
i mean that said id honestly be fine with minimal changes for sin, i think the o...
The tier set should help us with that
But yea a perm fix would be nice
fresh kelp
PVP trinkets aint gonna be viable in mythic raid, zero chance
yeah that would never happen
autumn frost
Yay, killed mugzee!
vital flicker
Has anyone noticed that the disc belt energy shield does way too much damage when it expires especially in AoE? Like if there was some way you could proc it consistently without actually taking very much damage. On the 5-target cleave dummies in Dornogal it was doing like 1.5mill per hit so 7.5mill per proc which would be like 180k-ish dps in aoe if you could proc it 1.5/min (which I wasn't able to do and assuming you don't take very much damage). In single target it seems to deal 100% of the remaining shield, also this isn't accounting for crits or vers, so it would actually be more
neat flame
The tier set should help us with that
not sure if the datamined stuff i was looking at is different, but it looks to me like it wouldn't materially change that aspect much
shiv cycling mark a bit faster just seems like a throughput increase to me
spice spire
Can’t believe you got John discord
haughty flicker
John N Discord himself
hearty seal
from what I'm seeing on PTR
no changes (yet)
tier set makes the bursts even more loaded, doesn't do much otherwise
kinda...lame
oh, fatebound gets a pretty massive change to the rotation
shiv CD doesn't match, though, hmmm
worn geyser
wait dks got raid buff and old amz back, when do we get smoke bomb back
hearty seal
you don't
Blizz will make a shadowmeld potion before even considering making Shroud of Concealment more useful, and that ability is already in the game
waxen oyster
damn, I potentially missd out on rank 1 gally || for healing ||
Didnt proc my cheat
What would they do give rogue/feral stealth level to the group?
worn geyser
so sad
hearty seal
I would trade sprint for BoS in an instant ngl
waxen oyster
Thats not a fair trade
hearty seal
even without the snare removal
waxen oyster
hearty seal
and I'd honestly consider trading step for BoS maybe
worn geyser
bos was qol asf for anything outside of raid
waxen oyster
gally reminded me how nice having step is
worn geyser
perma movespeed buff running old raids or world content
hearty seal
wait dks got raid buff and old amz back, when do we get smoke bomb back
what raidbuff
I'm not seeing it, only old AMZ
indigo mulch
2% haste i believe.
waxen oyster
Ig their excuse is we have atrophic now.
hearty seal
isn't that personal only
worn geyser
i thought it was raid wide in death and decay but tbh i could be wrong
hearty seal
Ig their excuse is we have atrophic now.
from what I'm seeing, Unholy Momentum is just Unholy Ground without D&D requirement and 2% instead of 5%
whoops wrong reply
worn geyser
i think u are right and my reading comprehension may be compromised
waxen oyster
Every time I hear people talk about
class raid cds
I just hear the gromnak rally clip
play
main bridge
whatcha pushin BUD
waxen oyster
I mean that is his most infamous one
then maybe gamer gummies
”holy dogshit tradechat buyer” is up there for me
hearty seal
and another at 1:30 yep
yeh i guess
towards the end of KB, I expect
probably could use a WA for that
worn geyser
u just cope ur way there
hearty seal
ngl I kinda expect DS to just stay dominant unless the fight favours 90s cycles very heavily
hearty seal
at this point I expect nothing
waxen oyster
I like how lucky coin
has a chance to never proc
really good design blizz
This is the same company
that made spectral sight a dps cd
for dhs
hasty saddle
thank you whispyr for the breakdown on bleed build on YT. I was able to increase my dmg by 2 mil in m+ dungeons because of it
timed my first 12 today
nova kelp
he's sad about rerolling a dk next season
keen pecan
will you be doing some simc with new tier set on sin some time soon, @tidal raven ? 👀
👍 no rush
cant wait for fatebound sin
nova kelp
groan
I guess at least if it does turn out to be a ripper for fatebound I won't have to get annoyed about dsmark
hearty seal
yeah target swapping will be just regular annoying, not "fuckin hell I just applied DSM two seconds ago" annoying
solar wyvern
From just playing around on ptr with both ds and fatebound fatebound definitely has some merit now
Is kinda nice
My breakdown is like 20% envenom 18% kb and 15% tails
As opposed to 40% envenom kekw
worn geyser
all they need is to just add a nuclear bomb sfx for every dry shiv envenom ez fix
red schooner
HE'S BACK
snow hamlet
red schooner
Are you less sad now?
No more sadwhispyr
Happy whispyr
We're in the good arc
He's one of us now
A commoner
hollow river
hearty seal
John Discord came through?
red schooner
John Discord came through?
At least they're more efficient than Comcast 
hearty seal
escalation successful then
mortal wave
is fatebound more easier hero talent?
hearty seal
damn John Discord, what a guy
runic hinge
NO WAY
red schooner
Glad you got it back though, we have returned to regular whispyr arc
runic hinge
gratz king welcome back
red schooner
Now we just need Zar to be back
zenith elm
I really want to test fatebound
runic hinge
for our other friends
brave stump
Is it the real one tho 
zenith elm
Welcome back god @ashen pike 😎
red schooner
Time to rebuild, with new friends, and new discords
zenith elm
Can i be your friend ? ❤️
red schooner
Ask discord support about it? Should be able to see that ownership changed post hack?
zenith elm
Create another one i guess ? 🤷♂️
red schooner
Idk
zenith elm
Ask discord support about it? Should be able to see that ownership changed post ...
Smart
brave stump
Discord Support 
red schooner
I'm back to eating glue now
hearty seal
as someone who didn't play SL
did HoA/Tazavesh have any significant Shroud skips?
brave stump
I had this happen to a friend with a 50k User Server and he never did get it back but actually other og members where able to claim ownership at some point
We Provided everything that proved he was the original owner
But i think it was 2 years ago maybe they're better in this scenario now
slate crown
runic hinge
zenith elm
Only smart thing I'll say all month
I'm savouring
zenith elm
I'm back to eating glue now
I'm also eating glue 😎 we are glue brother
normal kindle
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
keen spruce
come back to quak phishspyr
ur imposter assassinated zar 
The ol' accuracy by volume
nova kelp
HAHAHAHA phishpyr is wild
ew... one of my guildies just farmed the last 100 overcharged tokens to max out his console...
ima need to report him to HR
quiet oar
You need to check him in, in the Mental Hospital
vestal cliff
rogue jesus
orchid pewter
Any smart person here who can tell me if the mined rogue tsets are cooked?
Rogue tsets good or bad?
The data mined ones
quiet oar
WHERE IS MY BIS LIST MR WHISPER
orchid pewter
Ok so
quiet oar
Thanks
quiet oar
novel star
welcome back whispyr
orchid pewter
Sorry i drank too much coffee and my mind is all over the place now
I am overdosing on caffeine rn
quiet oar
Only another Game test request
midnight mist
Hi
red schooner
The discord shall find a way
subtle tundra
woah i think he got his account back thats so cool i wanna lick his toes
quiet oar
in a tier list of "check the pins"
what is the all timer of questions?
"What should i pick from my vault?"
runic terrace
Yo, should the dmg from the belt (charged bolts) be visibile in details? I'm not sure if it works. Equipped the belt, opend it, selected charged bolts but nothing happens, no confirmation, no visual etc.
quiet oar
Ye it should
midnight mist
@tidal raven
subtle tundra
whats the worst tier piece? need for raid leader so he can assign me the BEST ones
midnight mist
ban this guy
subtle tundra
whats the worst tier piece? need for raid leader so he can assign me the BEST on...
nvm i still wont play the game
though the dungeon set is 🔥
runic hinge
Yo, should the dmg from the belt (charged bolts) be visibile in details? I'm not...
Think it’s bugged on dummies
That’s what I heard
runic terrace
ah, okay. will look for an elite to check
runic hinge
I haven’t farmed the belt
quiet oar
nvm i still wont play the game
Can we screenshot this
and give him the receipt when he enters the raid next season
or dungeons
runic hinge
Outlaw without killing spree might be okay for like 3 days end of patch when im bored
keen pecan
welcome back @balmy condor
sorry for the spam (thats my alt disc acc)
nova kelp
imagine sadwhispyr logs back on soon like "so now he's pretending to be me..."
runic hinge
Lmfao
north kiln
WoW disc acc
inland dirge
how do we truly know that this is the real whispyr
north kiln
my main is personal
midnight mist
whispyr
now that you are here
can we fix that rh tag
who tf wants a tag that says rh
when it could be ROGUE
nova kelp
roag
runic hinge
Ruge
midnight mist
bro no way we stays <rh>
nova kelp
general meow
midnight mist
RAVE 
nova kelp
I wana buy the new timewalking mounts, but I'm at 999 and I haven't picked up a big g yet
quiet oar
Not having Big G
nova kelp
I want a cool mount to be the 1k
quiet oar
nova kelp
yeah he keeps giving keys to the other guys 😢
subtle tundra
@balmy condor how has poe been
do you have to write a wowhead article on new tier set?
worthy rose
@balmy condor based whispy
subtle tundra
tell me more about yourself...
worthy rose
Do you know if next season we need to raid for trinkets
Or will we again be using dungeon trinks
Possibility is using seaforium and signet again
Since theyr in rotation
But sacbrood could be good
But then again it’s haste
I care coz it will determine which class I play😭
I don’t like raiding
runic hinge
Ask again in 5 weeks
subtle tundra
50 million billion changes will happen
runic hinge
Then two weeks after that
worthy rose
Aight time to bookmark this chat
Check back in 5 weeks
I will be asking whispyr again
nova kelp
it's only funny when there's a pin to ignore
runic hinge
Real
worthy rose
💀 whispyr blocking me will be diabolical
nova kelp
whats the unders/overs on getting playable bandage bois?
nova kelp
but hows your internets?
shy pecan
Whispyr just wants to be a dom
nova kelp
it's not his fault, the cooking makes it worth it
bronze pike
you are a bottom by definition
real and true
bronze pike
opaque bolt
HI LAKE :D
hi ^^