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waxen oyster
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Yeah azralon ret pally

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so double whammy

sharp viper
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
solemn echo
silent compass
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Hey, trying to get parses on heroic but when i go AOE on vexie i cant deal dmg to adds cuz they die too fast... Is it better to go full single target?

balmy condor
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no

silent compass
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Full single with caustic then?

humble verge
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pretty much

balmy condor
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Like every boss yeah

royal lantern
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uhm, sprocket

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🤓

balmy condor
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“Full single target” just means you’re swapping caustic out for internal bleeding

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And internal bleeding sucks ass

humble verge
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sprocket

balmy condor
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So unless your caustic is doing less than 1.2%

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No point swapping

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That’s why we play caustic on cauldron for example

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No aoe, barely any cleave

silent compass
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Oh didnt knew that

balmy condor
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But internal just sucks so damn bad that the clash alone is enough to take caustic

silent compass
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Arterial or tiny toxic then?

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On single and 2 targets

balmy condor
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Arterial always

silent compass
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Gonna try above 95 now, thanks 🙂

signal sail
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Is there a reason why you are supposed to vanish during your kingsbane window other than extra crit?

humble verge
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yes

signal sail
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what is the reason

balmy condor
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During deathmark you get improved garrote

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Which happens to be during kingsbane

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But in raid we don’t run either talent and there’s no point in vanishing

signal sail
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got it thank you

silent compass
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Ah also i dont understand why internal bleeding is bad, is it because of low dmg?

waxen oyster
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its just spatter is really good

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for the singular point

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unless ib did at least 4% dmg yeah

silent compass
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Got it ty for info

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Unless pure single caustic then

hallow glade
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Caustic probably a st/prio gain in aoe as well because of singular focus

thorn thorn
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You still havent learned garf_sit

silent compass
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Aww only 91 on vexie

humble verge
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me wooping through as lb again

thorn thorn
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So no you havent learned

humble verge
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nah im just bored

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i need gear on my alts

thorn thorn
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Bro play MW

humble verge
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you said to play my monk

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:3

thorn thorn
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Yes

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Play MW

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Normally I hate MW cuz Mw are terrorists

humble verge
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goat HPS

thorn thorn
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But spec is fun

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Bro

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Take your ass to peak of serenity and talk to Swirl or something dracthyr_hehe

humble verge
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im like

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630

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lulw

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my frames are in the top left corner lul

thorn thorn
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bro

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676k is like

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580 ilvl hps

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lol

humble verge
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yes

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i have like

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2 pumpers doing 3m each

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:3

thorn thorn
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Do you have an agi wpn

humble verge
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no its intellect

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staff

thorn thorn
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Excellent

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You just gotta shrimply ramp harder and snipe them

coarse moss
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Hi im doing aoe opening with 2 fok than 2 rupture and garrote to finish with muti/crimson and than st rotation...what am I doing wrong?

thorn thorn
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Or bribe your evoker to assassinate one of the healers so you can pump lmao

humble verge
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not enough hp to take the frontal more than once besad

thorn thorn
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Arent you supposed to avoid doing that in general

humble verge
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idk

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i dont care

thorn thorn
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Since it gives you a debuff amping damage taken

humble verge
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lul

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it expires tho

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wdym

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lmao

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the healer that was meant to coem in to help

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died LUL

thorn thorn
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Ya but typically you just swap people who soak it instead of just everyone soaking constantly, else u die

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Cuz it hurt

humble verge
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i do know about that

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you do group 1

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group 2

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or left and right

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you know im a CE raider right :3

thorn thorn
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Of course

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But you mentioned soaking it twice so corncerned

humble verge
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yeah

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first soak

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skip 2nd

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then third

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cause then the amp is gone

thorn thorn
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ye

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I thought you meant like

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Soaking it twice in a row

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lol

humble verge
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naj

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stoopid

thorn thorn
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Pres fort brew bro

humble verge
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i could prolly do like

thorn thorn
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Diffuse magic the second one

humble verge
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diff magic on the 2nd one

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yea

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but like

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im not used to these bøttons

waxen oyster
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my god

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people are absolute animals in keys lately

thorn thorn
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Correct

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Did you see the details I posted earlier

waxen oyster
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no

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honestly imo anyone who plays male races

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is a red flag

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besides hunch orc

humble verge
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i play femlaeo roclc

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yes

waxen oyster
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male orc has giant shoulderpad appeal at least

thorn thorn
waxen oyster
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how much do brews normally overheal

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that comp is a yikes in general

thorn thorn
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This is my overhealing to him

humble verge
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kek

thorn thorn
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But he also was close to death constantly

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He used celestial brew like 3 times the whole key

waxen oyster
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idk how to feel about that mog

thorn thorn
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And fort brew zero times

waxen oyster
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anytime i play male characters i usually go for shirtless mogs

solemn echo
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Perma red stagger omegalul

thorn thorn
humble verge
thorn thorn
waxen oyster
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so dk from temu?

humble verge
waxen oyster
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isnt brew a beans spec

humble verge
thorn thorn
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Brew is actually good if people can play it

waxen oyster
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if

thorn thorn
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But frequently you get these animals that are just perma red stagger

south nebula
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Male goblin master race

thorn thorn
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And healing them is just pain and suffering

waxen oyster
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what's the most idiot friendly tank anyway

south nebula
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Prot war

thorn thorn
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Prolly bear

humble verge
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i forgot to swap my belt

thorn thorn
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Or protwar

waxen oyster
fresh kelp
royal lantern
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prot warrior after it

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but druid overall

waxen oyster
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i see alot of prot warriors who do

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piss dam though

royal lantern
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yeha cus 99% of wow players are not good at the game

thorn thorn
waxen oyster
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yeah if i see a halfassed mog on a male nelf dh

solemn echo
waxen oyster
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easy floorpov

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like why would you ever play male over female nelf

solemn echo
waxen oyster
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The only good male races in wow are

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orc troll undead

thorn thorn
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No tauren or kultiran?

solemn echo
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I liked my look back when I was DI dwarf, I looked like a murder hobo

waxen oyster
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who the fk plays tauren

solemn echo
royal lantern
thorn thorn
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Idk people who want thunderstomp idk

waxen oyster
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because meld

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is goodge

royal lantern
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yeha sure

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mr barefeet "transmog"

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meld

thorn thorn
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Knife ear sympathizer in chat

waxen oyster
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either way discussion was male over female nelf

thorn thorn
main bridge
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do you just use shadowmeld for another stealth opportunity?

thorn thorn
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Is male draenei a tornado warning

waxen oyster
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Yeah

royal lantern
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  • doesnt work on Bosses
thorn thorn
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Meld is buried in spaghetti

main bridge
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i'm a dwarf now but i hate how gear looks on it and i want to be a tall sexy race

royal lantern
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biggest cope racial in the game

thorn thorn
humble verge
main bridge
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it seems like stoneform is less useful on a rogue

thorn thorn
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Flash back to the dino boss in AD completely breaking if anybody shadowmelded

waxen oyster
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no stone is great on rogue

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tbh

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you can hold your cloak

solemn echo
royal lantern
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looking at racials is cringe by default

solemn echo
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It solves the main weakness of rogue, bleeds

royal lantern
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only Losers look at them and think it impacts them

waxen oyster
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dark irons do look much better

royal lantern
waxen oyster
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than regular dwarves

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however

thorn thorn
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Most are unimpactful

main bridge
thorn thorn
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But drac on priest and warlock is lifechanging

main bridge
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oops wrong reply

thorn thorn
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Glide very good on both classes

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But thats about where the benefits end

waxen oyster
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You trade

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for a terrible login screen

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and armory page

thorn thorn
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For glide

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Yeppers

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For shadow pretty good trade

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Cuz priest mobility is cringe

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Feather is stupid ability

royal lantern
thorn thorn
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The the bleed just did a ton of damage for no reason

main bridge
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do you not run PSF or?

thorn thorn
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But you also just brought a paladin and lizard and ignored it

solemn echo
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Yeah that bleed was dastardly

thorn thorn
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Cuz without dwarf racial, bop or caut people just wouldnt live the bleed at high levels

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Dumb boss

royal lantern
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well, m+ is desinged for +10 keys

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not high shit

thorn thorn
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Even at +10 the damage it did was very cringe

royal lantern
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its literally just "can everything do +10? we dont care beyond that"

thorn thorn
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But not enough for it to actually be important

royal lantern
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and like, yeha, you have to draw a line somewhere

scarlet orbit
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Dont we now have some dungeon abilitys which dont scale after a certaint key level?

thorn thorn
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It doesnt feel like thats the case

scarlet orbit
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Not sure anymore but i felt they did some chance like that to certain stuff in df but it could be me just dreaming about it 😄

humble verge
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honestly

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i might just start boosting keys for my weekly

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so its somewhat worth it

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cause i just cba garf_sit

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even tho the gold isent there

thorn thorn
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Mentioning DF M+ reminds me of this bangar screenshot from the S2 PTR

humble verge
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its fine t ome

thorn thorn
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And this one

royal lantern
thorn thorn
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Thorned?

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I have that one too

royal lantern
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one of those things where i dont even know how it could leave the drawing Board

thorn thorn
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Very funny

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Cant believe this actually made it into the game

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Even in a testing version

royal lantern
thorn thorn
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Who thought this was a good idea dracthyr_hehe

thorn thorn
# royal lantern wowhead comments and forum told me its a skill issue, so shut up

-Damage is based on 10% of the mobs auto attack damage (increased when their damage is)

-There is an ICD of ~3 seconds and thats per enemy so in large pulls you will be taking lots of hits

-DoT ticks will trigger it

-Pet damage triggers it, and it gets sent to their owner

-Thorned can miss

-Thorned is raw physical and is affected by armor

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Very funny affix

pliant remnant
thorn thorn
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I cant remember if it was S2 or S3 that changed sanguine to basically not exist

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No longer stacked the healing effect so it was much weaker

scarlet orbit
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Dmg reflecting stuff is either useless or the stupidest thing to play

thorn thorn
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Thorned was just straight up a healer affix in disguise as a tank affix

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They wanted it to limit how much tanks pulled so they would think about their group

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But the reality just like bursting is that they will just take the healer with the highest output and still pull big

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And you wouldnt take priests

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Cuz they would just die to Thorned

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Unless it was current disc

royal lantern
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it was just insane how they went "we want affixes to be less impactfull and you focring to play around them"

and then released THOSE affixes on the ptr

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it felt so insanely disconnected from reality

thorn thorn
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I dont actually remember the others

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I only remember Thorned because Thorned was just so insanely dumb

main bridge
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i am glad i missed that one

thorn thorn
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It was not a fun testing phase

royal lantern
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tww ptr was wild in general

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OG oracle

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aka "nobody could play this in reality, what the fuck are you doing"

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yes priests, just paly around randomly rotating buffs you give your mage at the right moment every 50seconds

while also having all your normal gameplay, and as disc ramp timers

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just do it, go :3

thorn thorn
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Og Oracle was a massive design failure

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And another mystery it even got past the drawing board

silent compass
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For bandit parses, do i leave dots on adds or just keep pumping on bandit

royal lantern
thorn thorn
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Kinda like Fatebound

royal lantern
silent compass
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Aity

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No garrote on the add?

waxen oyster
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if your tank sucks gg

silent compass
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Its pug so...

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I dont know

waxen oyster
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Yeah

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so 95% chance

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parsing in heroic is kind of a meme

silent compass
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I know, just want to see what i can do

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Thats where im at rn

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I dont know what i need to do on cauldron xD

main bridge
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probably attack both bosses

hidden bay
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ask your guild to play 2 healers on first 5 bosses garf_sit

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or even 1 on a few

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easy killtimes, better logs garf_sit

lusty kraken
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you hold kingsbane for intermission

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so you cleave them both

waxen oyster
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It kind of just

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aligns

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idk

lusty kraken
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yeah

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not like you have to hold a lot

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just a couple of seconds

waxen oyster
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but its basically an st fight

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My 99 on it is from march though

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XD

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i havent done a non skip boss on rogue in months though

spice surge
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For example on cauldron specifically the best kill timer is ~4:30

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Because then they die immediately after you cleave with execute

silent compass
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As expected tanks did not move the boss

lusty kraken
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yeah pug tank players this season are quite special

silent compass
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Trying to get my avg on 95 is not gonna be easy like this

humble verge
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why do you need 95 avg

silent compass
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Just to feel good

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No other reason

lusty kraken
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why not

humble verge
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reasonable

main bridge
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big number feel good

lusty kraken
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I am trying to get 99 avg

silent compass
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I got good ILVL with i think good stats so, why not go for it

lusty kraken
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just for fun

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I can't parse on bandit to save my life

silent compass
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Idk if i need anything more than that

lusty kraken
main bridge
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you could be 684

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quit slackin

silent compass
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My bad

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Almost there xD

main bridge
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hell yeah

silent compass
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Fuck jastor diamond i hate that shi

main bridge
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get mythic jetpack now

humble verge
silent compass
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Go-pack?

main bridge
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yeah that

silent compass
silent compass
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Kill tomorrow hopefully xD

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I think i did good w total 8 days playtime

fleet pagoda
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!up

main bridge
royal lantern
royal lantern
silent compass
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Then started with a lot of free time

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xD

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I think i only took like 4 vaults? Not sure

main bridge
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damn you got lucky

waxen oyster
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all my tier is from m+

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XD

waxen oyster
humble verge
dapper cradle
silent compass
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Not on the trinkets but

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Others y

silent compass
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Who needs a mog when u can fullset it xd

thorn thorn
silent compass
sharp viper
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can't kill trash if you're busy taking selfies

gilded wasp
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Hey guys , returning to rogue assa from season 1 , did the rotation changed ? do we still have shitty st ? i ve heard that we don't use garrote on adds anymore ? can i have more details about it ?

scarlet sequoia
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yes

normal mist
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Just maintaining garrote on your main target is enough (outside of IC)

waxen oyster
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just forget my alts with less gear do more st

rain coral
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guys any other way to farm rep in Legion zones other than doing quest

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i remember you could kill some specific rare mounts in mist of panderia, is there such thing in legion zone

normal mist
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no

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your best bet is waiting for legion timewalking

waxen oyster
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idk what legion rep unlocks

marble dew
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hey guys , ima kinda new to sin rog , with this build , do i use vanish in combat to reapply my bleeds ?

main bridge
normal mist
waxen oyster
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@normal mist the abosolute pain of a shoe transmog you want for your alt

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is from aberrus normal

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on a class you didnt play much that season

marble dew
normal mist
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you dont have MA

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nor imp garr

waxen oyster
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yeah and garrote is kinda poopy

marble dew
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ye i meant just to spread the bleeds

normal mist
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Yeah, ruptures go wild

waxen oyster
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I mean you dont play that build until higher keys

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its just less damage than bleed

hallow glade
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The only thing vanish does in that build damage wise is applying death stalker mark and spreading primarily rupture

normal mist
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yeah

waxen oyster
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or you keep vanish in case you lose mark

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because no subterfuge

hallow glade
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It helps if you are comm with your tank and you know when he’s gonna chain

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Keep in mind if you die with darkest night up you lose the buff and the mark

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🙈

marble dew
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ok tyvm

waxen oyster
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Idk what goes through most tanks brains

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random 1% chain helps nothing

hallow glade
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Also compared to the subterfuge builds, ambush absolutely must be your first ability if you don’t have darkest night in stealth

waxen oyster
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I never do low chains when i tank

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i dont have cds whats the point….

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and its less damage for me to keep stragglers behind me

spice surge
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Like if youre not instantly attacking the surprise inspection guys in floodgate

waxen oyster
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Though is it toxic to spam ping pugs who die to stupid

spice surge
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Theyll jump on you and you lose the mark

pliant remnant
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or the two mobs after 3rd boss in workshop

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where you're supposed to focus the farther one

waxen oyster
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we love shadowstep

hallow glade
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One time I died with Dn up in fg and the tank just kept pulling and pulling and I had to just pretend it was OK and hope no one noticed my non hero talent damage

waxen oyster
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Idk i feel tank players

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get dumber every season

hallow glade
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They are getting hit too hard

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It’s impacting their brain

waxen oyster
hallow glade
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Tanks can only do fluxflame a few times before the damage is permanent

waxen oyster
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My favorite thing is asking tank players

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do you choose to do more damage if it makes your healers life harder

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answer should always be yes

hallow glade
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When vdh is no longer meta healers are gonna have hell to pay when tanks aren’t 90% self healing

waxen oyster
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Yeah i notice it

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when i play pwar

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the difference

hallow glade
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My resto sham just puts riptide and earthshield on the tank and then continues putting the Boomie on life support

waxen oyster
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Its ok im usually

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3rd on overall dps

humble verge
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makes sense

hallow glade
waxen oyster
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Idk i beat ret paladins half the time

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on st

humble verge
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thats a bad ret

waxen oyster
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as soon as boss reaches execute

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wtf is ignore pain

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wasted button

hallow glade
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I love prot war doing 1.7 st on last boss in ML

waxen oyster
waxen oyster
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then as soon as we reach something i can reflect

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they suddenly remember

hallow glade
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Kaze interrupt anchor on the spell reflect mob is op

waxen oyster
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ngl

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I just dont kick casts targeting a prot warrior

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usually

waxen oyster
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How

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the fuck

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I feel you get more shield block uptime just from pressing shield charge

thorn thorn
waxen oyster
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😭

thorn thorn
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I dont play tank

waxen oyster
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i just wait for my cds to come back

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so i can do more damage

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got me fucked up if you think im pulling the next group with ravager funhouse lens up in 10s

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instead of waiting

thorn thorn
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Ya idk anything about tanking

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I just eat damage and do damage

waxen oyster
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i like when i need to meta first 10 seconds of start of priory because dps cant hold dicks

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and healer refuses to put a hot on me during the gather

waxen oyster
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i play like a dps

haughty flicker
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press damage buttons and if i die its healers fault

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just like normal dps

thorn thorn
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I gotta find Whispyrs post on chain pulling

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Its in one of the discords

red schooner
prisma monolithBOT
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Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
  • Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
  • Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
thorn thorn
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mmmm

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So basically when the casters or big damage dealers are gone

nova pollen
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any1 have a streamer they suggest to watch?

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new to rogue and wanna wathc somee peeps

polar rampart
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like shindig or zeross probably?

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if your looking for assa

nova pollen
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yeah sorry assa

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okay ill look them up!

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ty

humble verge
surreal lotus
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Is echoing void still underperforming for DPS?

surreal lotus
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!guide

surreal lotus
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!sims

prisma monolithBOT
wispy iris
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is there anyway to check which stat you got from alchemical chaos from logs

plain jetty
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hey guys, if my guild is still progging gallywix, so theres next to no chance i reclear that boss on my rogue alt, do i just send my first 3 dinars on a heroic jastor?

granite skiff
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I’m using the macro for shiv and thistle tea. But it isn’t consuming thistle tea.

coral ibex
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get rid of the thistle tea in your bank or bags

granite skiff
granite skiff
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Thanks I will do so in the morning.

granite skiff
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Appreciate the help. I just want to get better.

hollow river
oblique jackal
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Does anyone have a mouseover macro for rupture that will also work if you arent hovering over a nameplate

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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

coral ibex
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just add [] to your macro

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after the mouseover part

oblique jackal
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Hmm, it's not working for me :/

balmy condor
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What’s the macro you have

hallow glade
austere olive
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how should I use vanish in keys on bleed build

kindred flare
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When the tank chain pulls and you want to get carnage rolling again.

austere olive
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ok

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do u save both charges for that or like

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1 with deathmark one save for that

hallow glade
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vanish when the pack is ~35% hp for sudden demise

sonic zinc
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is it worth rupturing the immune adds in m mugzee if theyre nearby but still immune and u arent in cds

balmy condor
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yah

sonic zinc
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perf

proper holly
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are we supposed to keep Crimson tempest up in ST now this patch?

waxen oyster
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Depends on build

sonic zinc
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if bleed build ye

waxen oyster
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on ST

jaunty lotus
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Bleed build uses CT in ST?

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I missed that when I tried bleed build, maybe that's why my ST sucked

slim copper
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
#

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
sonic zinc
#

!bleed

prisma monolithBOT
#

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
  • Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
  • Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
  • Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
sonic zinc
austere olive
#

I assume its better to reapply bleeds in pandemic with low cap then to let them fall off and reapply with 5+ cp right?

plain onyx
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
plain onyx
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

hot pasture
#

!spreadsheet

prisma monolithBOT
safe patrol
#

got the full on ret paladin experience (cinder 17, my last 17) first screenshot is before the key, second is after we timed it and I tried to kinda educate him but it was pretty waste of time but yeah I should also have predicted that

#

my vs his harvester and big gobbo dam

#

the censoring was a bit bad but yeah whatever

#

this is obv not the ret discord but surely you dont full divine storm the last 4 adds before last boss that regen as well, only on procs or?

#

he went full ds on the men

red schooner
#

You can't fault the ret pally for that. As soon as a second target appears all of their buttons just turn into divine storm.

#

It just be that way.

safe patrol
#

hahahah yyy

#

oof that tilted me so much am dissappointed in myself

#

I think I also did every barrel on benk buzzbee

royal lantern
#

dont play m+, problem solved prayge

safe patrol
rotund oak
#

imagine arguing for stuff visible on the meters

#

absolute cinema

safe patrol
#

that guy strictly watches overall and prob dont understand a breakdown but I kinda knew that so dont know why I tried

#

if I wanted to fight him on the overall I would have just played bleed but yeah if there was 900 important civilians for the survival of the mankind gathered around 1 dangerous monster, my man above would have still spammed divine storm so hard and went to bed with a smile on his face

red schooner
#

Its like boomkins and starfall

safe patrol
#

normally dont pick a fight with people in whispers and just ignore but that "lol no" "assa rogue got no prio" before key just tilted me off earth but is what it is

#

cant vibe with everyone

red schooner
#

Its one of the things that majorly puts me off of key pushing, you seem to run into a higher proportion of absolute maniacs than I do in my normal vault keys

safe patrol
#

hahahah yeah its a bit hit and miss like with everything. I got a premade sort of but there I have to play enh for bl so gotta pug on my main love sadly

#

I do really enjoy the phys comp doe, so if I ever get a premade phys comp I will cry happy tears

tall crane
#

Hey, sorry, Noob question here. Trying to use the Shiv / Tea macro linked above but I can never activate my Tea with it. My tea only ever procs when I'm low energy. What am I doing wrong?

dense shore
#

works just fine for me

#

did you accidentally put a space or a letter somewhere?

balmy condor
jaunty matrix
#

does evasion work in mythic mug mines like it does in heroic ?
where we take no dmg at all from the soak
the soak of the mine itself, not the two small soaks that come after

viscid spear
#

Trying to do Horrific Visions, what talent could I drop for Iron Wire?

scarlet orbit
jaunty matrix
#

hmm

bleak sun
#

@viscid spear Just go cleave

#

I've done 8masks solo ( 681ilvl)in 2 try,3 orbs left, go forge then rush right side keep a gamon/titan proc before rexxar or use an orb,then tp, go for 2 last zone left

low remnant
#

Which spells are you tracking on enemy nameplates as assa rogue? Trying to keep it minimal with bleeds (rapture, garrote, crimson tempest) + poisons (weapon poison + splatter), but wondering if poisons are essential to track...

scarlet orbit
#

You dont need to track poison. Some also dont track spatter on nameplates but in their class wa`s

viscid spear
#

Another one down, two to go

spice surge
#

Garrote is pretty good to track, can have CT tracked if you dont have it elsewhere on your UI if you want to, its fine

#

But besides that you dont really need much, the rest is just clutter

humble verge
dense shore
#

heya, is it worth keeping cyrce's or can i swap it to a crafted one? seeing conflicting info on archon and on guides

main bridge
#

what did your sim say?

#

what other people are wearing isn't relevant to you

humble verge
ebon lion
#

is eye of kezan good for M+? it sims a small bit higher, but from my understanding its only good on longer fights.

spice surge
#

In coordinated groups where you can make sure you dont stay out of combat for long (or at all) its very strong

polar rampart
#

if you maintain stacks

spice surge
#

For just general m+ pugging its not particularly strong no

viscid spear
humble verge
#

@thorn thorn you wouldnt guess to what happened today

thorn thorn
sonic zinc
#

double checking, we just ignore super charger right - ie finish at 5+ regardless of super charger count, and 7 for darkest night?

runic hinge
#

Yes

humble verge
#

killed sprocket and then waited on vexie

thorn thorn
viscid spear
#

Now to get that last 55 rating somewhere

humble cradle
#

Sorry to reply to week old comment but I was trying to use search function as much as possible before asking more questions. So for your build, during aoe packs you would only garrote if deathmark is being used on that pull?

viscid spear
#

Last one was Floodgate. No deaths at all for the entire run until the fish miniboss. Tank tried to get us to skip it by pulling it over to a side and we run by it.
Then quite a few dumb deaths on Geezle.

humble verge
viscid spear
#

I feel more relaxed, time to vibe to some Spotify while I chill

snow spear
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
#

@thorn thorn well the raid per say only lasted an hour anyways

#

only 1 noob wipe on mug

silent compass
#

Hey, mana oil or stone is better?

viscid spear
#

Suppose I should get Myth Seaforium. Then I wonder if I should get Myth Signet next, or be a weirdo and grab an Outlaw weapon

slim copper
#

looking to swap to sub for Rik. Do i need to worry about different gear at all? Im currently heavy crit and mastery obviously

red schooner
#

Though sim over generic stat prios is your best choice.

slim copper
#

barrels 💔

red schooner
#

Imma be real, if your raid team is having issues with barrels at this stage of the tier, your raid leader needs to slap your other dps.

#

But yeah, mastery is meant to be solid, you should be fine without swapping gear, but also, slap your other DPS anyhow for being lazy fucks.

brave comet
#

is damage on adds gone on mugzee yet?

#

or is it next week

red schooner
#

Props to you for looking to switch to help out, but also, the fuck are your other DPS doing kekdog

waxen oyster
#

mugzee add dam is cope

red schooner
waxen oyster
#

Yeah its cope

#

i got a 95 with only 70m spatter dam

#

XD

red schooner
#

Yeah, its kinda pointless anyhow cos the gaol folk are having to hold massively to avoid getting ice.

waxen oyster
#

we didnt hold

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we only got 2 gaol sets

#

its just a cursed timing for sin cds

fresh kelp
#

not a super huge issue for sin but some other specs it is quite cringe

brave comet
waxen oyster
#

why would you not

#

free goon damage

brave comet
#

so goon damage isnt removed?

#

i'm confused

coral ibex
#

huh

hallow glade
#

The shockers get a damage amp on mugzee

coral ibex
#

what makes you think goon damage is removed

hallow glade
#

Those are being removed from logs

#

Not goons

#

Because the sub rogue boomkin is hitting them with sec tech convoke the second they come out

brave comet
#

ahhh so nothing changes

#

basically, still on spatter, thanks

red schooner
waxen oyster
#

i mean why would you not run spatter

#

its not like the adds are being deleted

#

from the boss entirely

hallow glade
fresh kelp
#

holy moly hes a knower

hallow glade
#

LMAO

spice surge
#

Well killing the goons faster isnt necessarily even good, besides the last set

#

Unless the people inside kill it fast enough to still be safe with ice

#

They usually end up holding damage anyway

waxen oyster
#

i dont even get the point

#

its not like you can spawn more shockers

fresh kelp
#

well my guild hasnt ever broken out the 5min shockers

hallow glade
#

^

fresh kelp
#

its a bit risky at times to be swinging the finger gun around

#

and there's no ethical reason to

hallow glade
#

Timings change it as well

waxen oyster
#

Oh right theres people who dont push before 2nd gaols

hallow glade
#

My guild doesn’t break out 3 min shockers

fresh kelp
hallow glade
#

Like most I imagine

fresh kelp
#

before that gun even happens

waxen oyster
#

big pump

hallow glade
#

Also like if you cb sec tech the 1:40 shocker

#

It’s a bit of a difference in terms of total damage, but you’re really just hindering your raid

waxen oyster
#

i usually just rupture them

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to have energy to dunk into boss

#

during 2nd dm

hallow glade
#

Sin isn’t gonna be able to do much to that add anyways

waxen oyster
#

5:06 is giga cursed kill timing

fresh kelp
#

yea its mostly just that the shockers dont really do anything and depending on your strat/raid you can turbo amplify your logs

waxen oyster
#

for sin tbh

#

ermm like 5:18

#

sin add damage just happens

#

ideally spatter a dry shiv on a rocketeer though

hallow glade
#

That’s all sin can do

fresh kelp
#

if you aren't using your DN lingering dry shiv on the shocker itself are you really trying

hallow glade
#

Make sure to pool energy on the shocker to build amp poison

#

For big dry shiv dn

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Before it gets broken out

waxen oyster
#

I feel if we had a min longer

#

would have done way more

waxen oyster
#

because 2nd pot and dm set

fresh kelp
#

I think i held pot for 4min dm last time i played sin on that fight

#

we also hold lust for 4mins so the 2min specs can have it in their cds

waxen oyster
#

yeah i thought we were gonna get another

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big mistake

granite skiff
bitter apex
#

I found that the tea from Venthyr cov also ruins it

winged quail
#

LETSFUCKINGGGOGOGOGOOGO

royal lantern
#

GZ man

red schooner
#

Gz!

brave comet
#

!!!!!!

grim jay
#

Exclusively using IDs is just way better

#

Because you can barely run into those issues

brave comet
#

so i'm reclearing myth gally, do people still use eye of kazan on reclear

silent compass
royal lantern
#

(never had that trinket)

thorn thorn
humble verge
thorn thorn
viscid spear
humble verge
#

what happens there

thorn thorn
viscid spear
humble verge
wary light
#

Anyone getting higher than this atm? Finally "finished" gearing, every single item is a sidegrade for me now at 683.63 (yes ik sim dps a big meme)

viscid spear
humble verge
#

ive seen 2.6

oblique jackal
humble verge
hallow glade
viscid spear
humble verge
halcyon turret
#

Hey guys, im currently setting up plater and whenever I press Deathmark I get a second set of garrote and Rupture displayed, anyone knows why that is and how to remove it ?

viscid spear
#

The Glorp Council finds you lacking

viscid spear
#

Move out boys

humble verge
#

no idea why it doubles the dots on plater tho lol

halcyon turret
#

Ill see if they have different spell IDs then and blacklist the one from deathmark susge

#

ty tho

humble verge
# viscid spear

i would watch out, usagi was the one who originally knocked out mark, not nolan

thorn thorn
humble verge
#

(he is cannonically a guy who eats a lot)

hasty acorn
#

Hey! It is possible to have a macro to cast shadow meld then cast stealth while I'm in combat?

spice surge
#

No

#

It only works if shadowmeld drops combat for you (which it cannot do on bosses)

hasty acorn
#

okay, sad

hollow river
#

doesn't always work properly, but if you're already nelf you may as well

waxen oyster
waxen oyster
#

I think i gained like 18k going orc

hallow glade
#

2.636 with velf debuff

humble verge
#

havent simmed lately

waxen oyster
#

im pretty sure velf is one of the highest races

#

also theoretically its the best dps race on mugzee

humble verge
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
waxen oyster
#

unless you get zero gaols

humble verge
#

fuu spreadsheat would tell you otherwise

#

(i dont know)

waxen oyster
#

nah you can run the sim in advanced

hallow glade
#

wow -30k is a lot more than i thought

waxen oyster
#

if you really are curious

humble verge
#

advanced simming

#

yeah sorry

#

im not a 🤓

hallow glade
#

nerf maghar

humble verge
#

im only on my pc 16h aday

#

not a 🤓 who does ADVANCED sims

waxen oyster
#

it was, orcs then human velf dwarf

#

iirc

#

human as a spec with no dead stats

humble verge
#

human rep besad

hallow glade
#

human bis for insta brick keys

waxen oyster
#

shaman has a 10min hearth

#

not on a shared cd

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

i was human on warrior forever because cba

#

then i got bored and went dragon

#

so now im a human with horns

#

and glide

humble verge
waxen oyster
humble verge
viscid spear
#

Is the AH down for anyone else? Been down for a while now

humble verge
#

i can access the ah

#

wdym

#

well youre NA i guess so

waxen oyster
#

Oh surprised maghar is that much better

#

is secondary that much more effective

humble verge
#

it helps

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esp mastery

viscid spear
waxen oyster
#

getting crit is kind of meh

viscid spear
#

Been playing for almost 9 hours now

waxen oyster
#

but i feel maghar gives me crit

#

mastery

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most of the time

#

but like in theory i thought 4.9k ap is better than 6.5k secondary

thorn thorn
#

Its not cap

waxen oyster
royal lantern
#

you know people are bored when the shity racial talks happen 3x a day

thorn thorn
#

What am I supposed to do

#

Start posting rage bait from reddit?

#

We could be talking about auto tea terri_gato

waxen oyster
thorn thorn
#

Bro just outed himself as a shit mage

#

gg

royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

i had a wowhead commenter

#

saying melee is braindead easy

#

frost mage otp

#

ok press frostbolt more buddy

thorn thorn
royal lantern
#

not much to do on most Fights

thorn thorn
#

Ask and you shall receive

waxen oyster
#

i meant to play the spec

#

from a dps pov

#

let’s be real you mostly give your hunters the bitch jobs

#

then wait for devokers to stop terrozing the raid with hover

thorn thorn
thorn thorn
#

Dragons are terrorists

waxen oyster
#

Do you know how many times i’ve heard

#

”accidentally pressed hover”

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kaboom raid

thorn thorn
#

Yea its not an accident they just forgot how the ability works

waxen oyster
#

or when its a

#

do not touch color mechanic

thorn thorn
#

If you arent putting in movement inputs when you use it you just use it in place and dont move, and you keep the cast during moving part

waxen oyster
#

sees a deep breath in slowmo

thorn thorn
#

That happens regardless of spec

#

Pres, Dev, Aug

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Happens for all of them dracthyr_hehe

waxen oyster
#

Oh trust me

#

i’ve almost launched myself off platforms

#

on havoc more than i’d like to admit

waxen oyster
#

our dev main in voti

#

never pressed ve

#

all tier until farm

#

first time he used it dragged a ret player through rasz’s breath on accident

#

somehow didnt get clipped by it

thorn thorn
#

Oh you mean rescue

#

Yeh dont worry lack of rescue usage is a pretty frequent occurence

waxen oyster
#

nah ve

thorn thorn
#

VE doesnt move others

#

Unless he mean he used it on a ret and dragged himself through breath

waxen oyster
#

thought it did

thorn thorn
#

Only rescue moves people

waxen oyster
#

since we did have dragons taxi priests

#

through knock

thorn thorn
#

VE is just a self heal or leap to people

#

They did it with rescue

waxen oyster
#

Oh

#

Yeah every tier in df was spend

thorn thorn
waxen oyster
#

10 minutes planning how to move priests wheelchair ass

#

acrosd a boss

#

In SL i selfreported that i took a warlock gateway

#

like once per tier

#

because useless

thorn thorn
#

Evokers have evolved self preservation out of healing priests

#

Between spatial and rescue they have lost all ability to survive for themselves

waxen oyster
#

also calling enhance players

#

external eddies

#

is great

solar wyvern
thorn thorn
keen spruce
storm forum
#

I just tried to tab into ravenholdt cause I thought this was WCP lmao

thorn thorn
tired bobcat
#

Hey guys does anyone know how to disable stealth specific actions bars taking over my primary bar?

#

Whenever I stealth the stealth only abilities take priority over my primary bar and with the subterfuge talent its just 6 seconds of being unable to use some abilites (using elvui)

worthy rose
#

guys

#

is it hilarious i have no idea what im doing on DK

#

and im doing about as good if not a little bit better than i would do on my rogue

#

fucking dk's man

#

dk op

#

anyone who says dk isnt op is cope

humble verge
#

i just have the paging with ambush on 1

#

so i dont have it as an extra on my bar

tired bobcat
#

Yeah thats what it is, thanks alot

#

Couldnt figure out what it was called

worthy rose
#

funny thing is i barely proc blood beast

#

shit dies too quick

#

i just watch it walk up to me after an encounter

#

and pop next to me

#

away from any enemies

waxen oyster
#

play rider ig

worthy rose
#

and im like fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

#

rider is suboptimal tho

#

i just need to do higher keys

waxen oyster
#

so is bloodbeast proccing

worthy rose
#

im still in 671 mainpieces and im pushing 15/16's already

waxen oyster
#

on air

worthy rose
#

kinda crazy on a dk

#

my guild cleared 2/8 mythic again this week

#

and fucking

#

the gloves token

#

for my DK

#

and a warlock doing tank dps got it

#

FUUUUUUUUUUU

#

makes me just not want to raid

waxen oyster
#

he needs it

worthy rose
#

if i lost it to top dps

#

its fine

waxen oyster
worthy rose
#

but its tank dpser

#

and im malding

#

oh well

waxen oyster
#

tbh idk why

worthy rose
#

theres a crafter in the guild that i get them to make shit for me

waxen oyster
#

havoc isnt more popular

worthy rose
#

the amount ive saved not having to tip

#

its worth staying in the guild

waxen oyster
#

just because vdh is in the meta?

worthy rose
#

whatevers meta gets all the hypebeasts signing up

#

the amount of tank damage arcane mages

#

i stg

waxen oyster
#

thats most

worthy rose
#

some of these fotm'ers need to just install hekili

waxen oyster
#

never seen an arcane overall even 3m

worthy rose
#

they need to just

#

stop thinking they know best and follow hekili

#

guaranteed theyd do more damage

#

some peopleare just mad vegetables

#

its like we're out here on some farm

main bridge
#

arcane is prio damage broooo it's not about overall Copium

worthy rose
#

but then again

#

what even is wow

#

other than gear loot simulator

#

all we do is log in get our loot and log off

#

when you hit the mythic dungeoner limit of being fully hero geared mainpiece and 681 crafted offpieces theres nothing you can do other than wait for the weekly welfare vault

#

log in do 8 dungeons log off

#

check on tuesyad/wednesday

#

rinse repeat

main bridge
#

i wouldn't say that's true, but everyone plays differently i guess

#

the way you talk about it, maybe WoW isn't the game for you

#

there are tons of other good games out there to try

worthy rose
#

what else is there to do tho

#

do dungeons and brick keys

#

or do dungeons and clear keys

main bridge
#

i enjoy pushing keys with my friends

worthy rose
#

for the epeen of clearing 17's

main bridge
#

i don't think of it as e-peen really - it's fun to form strategies and work as a team with my friends

worthy rose
#

the whole reason i rolled into a dk is on the higher keys me and my firends try to clear

#

rogue has mad survivability issues

#

feint barely lets me survive shit

#

but dk just tanks it and death strike sit back

#

ezpz

main bridge
#

well it sounds like DK works better for you

#

mage is pretty tanky too

worthy rose
#

im just doomposting

#

wow is a fine game