I cant tell if this is ragebait or not, but please dont.
#assassination
shrewd night
maiden sierra
I cant tell if this is ragebait or not, but please dont.
ragebait? in assassination channel? we would never
shrewd night
waxen oyster
Do I go vulpera chat
rotund oak
Do I go vulpera chat
Orc
red schooner
or just be a small furry dude and live your best life
waxen oyster
I been stoneform man for the past 2 years.
waxen oyster
maghar skintones match my mog better
maiden sierra
orc for bloodfury is a nice dps gain
waxen oyster
than green
rotund oak
orc for bloodfury is a nice dps gain
yup thats what ive said
red schooner
play troll, regain 5hp a second, life is okay
waxen oyster
its usually very strong first season of an expac
maiden sierra
yup thats what ive said
rate my mog
waxen oyster
then gets weaker since the value is flat
red schooner
rate my mog
why pretend to have fox ears when you can be a small fox
i ask of you this
rotund oak
rate my mog
u forgot ur weapons
red schooner
you're halfway there just commit
rotund oak
rest is okayish
maiden sierra
why pretend to have fox ears when you can be a small fox
because vulpera yelps when you stab are very obnoxious
maiden sierra
u forgot ur weapons
they are there
spice spire
Turn game sound off
rotund oak
they are there
ik im pretendign they are not coz i dont wanna scold u
spice spire
As god intended
maiden sierra
i use sound ques to tell whats going on in game
red schooner
in game sound interrupts the music that i use to pretend i'm not playing the game
rotund oak
based
maiden sierra
ik im pretendign they are not coz i dont wanna scold u
well i could not find any daggers that fit the mog 😦
rotund oak
well i could not find any daggers that fit the mog 😦
hold on searching
novel dragon
My sim is telling me 684 junkmaestro's > 671 HoC is this true or am I being baited
I just feel like not having signet or hoc is not the move- this would have me running pacemaker and magnet
but I usually blindly follow the sims
maiden sierra
get mythic house of cards, problem solved
rotund oak
well i could not find any daggers that fit the mog 😦
Betrayer's Shadowspike with Undying Spirit ''enchant''
u can thank me later
maiden sierra
wowhead dressing room is so ass
cant see the enchant on the weapon
guess ill have to log inn to see it
plain spruce
with a mythic HoC, do you just save it for deathmark and treat it like a 2min cd?
spice spire
with a mythic HoC, do you just save it for deathmark and treat it like a 2min cd...
Yes
waxen oyster
You just replace signet with hoc
and use 13
will just use it with dm
Use 14 macro people pour milk before cereal.
spice spire
Exceptions being like at the end of the fight if you’re sub 30s from dm etc. but like 99% of the time it’s just a 2m
maiden sierra
Use 14 macro people pour milk before cereal.
i heat up my cereal
spice spire
14 is for people who openly admit to being bottoms
deep gyro
should i use bleed build on a 16? a friend roped me into 1
spice spire
Bleed is fine still
waxen oyster
Yeah hoc has niche cases where you can use it 1-2 more times.
deep breach
Really struggling with the ST in bleed build
rotund oak
<:Notok:1099409310255165572>
💀
waxen oyster
sin st in keys is nothing to write home about
maybe 1.6-1.8?
idk
pull trash with boss
or just accept its a bit lower
rotund oak
maybe 1.6-1.8?
with a PI or couple mobs pulled into the boss we okayge
sonic pagoda
so i have all mythic pieces and crafted at max besides my helm and gloves are heroic....if i craft gloves i have to use the vesrs over haste helm instead of my crit mastery helm and put crit mastery or crit vers on gloves....gloves have lest stats but if craft helm, ill be stuck with the haste over crit gloves
more stats from crafting a helm as far as agi and stam...idk simmin it like 3 times
fallow canopy
normal mist
You're probably at a point where it barely matters @sonic pagoda
sonic pagoda
yeah
tier gloves come off couldron....tier helm comes off OAB and Gally mythic wise i dont raid besides pugging first couple
deep breach
anyone have a mouseover garrote/rupture macro they can c&p? i hate writing macros
sonic pagoda
i mean im 681 ilvl...if i craft it bumps me to 682 i could jsut not craft but idk lol seems worth it to craft lol
robust nymph
Pacemaker or Mechano?
normal mist
Sim
robust nymph
( for m+)
normal mist
Sim it my friend
normal mist
you are
somber sparrow
Use 14 macro people pour milk before cereal.
drink a sip of milk, and then pour in a bite of cereal into your mouth directly. keeps everything fresh
but really i use 13
fast phoenix
so i have all mythic pieces and crafted at max besides my helm and gloves are he...
basically neglible...agi all that matters
waxen oyster
mechano loses usually purely because it caps out at hero track
Pretty sure it is the best passive hero trinket generally speaking though.
fast phoenix
was so excited for my HoC and then H funhouse lens dropped finally
fast phoenix
yeah haste still fine tho
only using HoC on longer fights with my eye of kezan
otherwise its H mechano and H funhouse lens for my ugly 667 ass
fast phoenix
yeah it shows 0.4-0.5% above for my sims
waxen oyster
i want it hero on warrior though because pwar with that thing
both stats are super nice with cds
at 1.5
like 10,500 is alot of secondary
sonic pagoda
basically neglible...agi all that matters
yes i understand its negligible except sim is saying an increase of like 27.8% dmg with dungeon slice from crafting gloves.... but to sim crafted glove variations ring variations and helm variations is too much so i broke them down individually did helm vs gloves it picked gloves for some reason...so then did crit vers vs crit mast gloves it chose crit vers gloves then unequipped my crafted ring and said to use circes....but in sinle target build and patchwerk and patchewerk with 5 bosses it tells me to use crafted ring instead of circes....its all a bit of hog wash
buoyant herald
its more correct to say ilvl matters, agi is worse than all of my secondaries already
buoyant herald
once you free yourself from thinking there are bad stats, you'll feel so much more relaxed
sonic pagoda
I dont think there are bad stats....
I'm just saying that sims are wild
and for me inconsistent
buoyant herald
that wasn't directed at what you said sorry lol
waxen oyster
Idk i just sim patchwerk
sonic pagoda
ok good im like do what
waxen oyster
sonic pagoda
i mean the circes righ is 5.5k mastery
waxen oyster
im wearing crafted pants since i have myth track in the other 4
sonic pagoda
but losing out on agi main staty and another secondary its weird simmin it
yeah i havent gotten lucky with myth track helm or gloves yet
ive crafted pieces for both outlaw and assa so crafting crit versa gloves is nice for both specs
sonic pagoda
just my lovely heroic helm with a socket with crit over mastery for assa doesnt get used when i craft gloves
i have 0 sparks and 0 cata charges now lol
but 682 ilvl after crafting lol
sonic pagoda
if you dont mythic raid and you catad a cloak and bracers lol
waxen oyster
Well there's technically no reason to cata those slots
sonic pagoda
catad chest piece this vault lmao
i mean are you 684 ilvl with 4 cata pieces?
technically actually logically
waxen oyster
681 because heroic hoc
waxen oyster
i have crafted bracers
worthy fable
@balmy condor Do you know how big the dmg increase/loss on ST with induction build in m+ staying above/below 150 energy?
sonic pagoda
heroic house of cards no myth pacemaker and no mythc signet
sonic pagoda
sub has the same gear as what?
waxen oyster
assa
waxen oyster
You change a neck and maybe a ring
sonic pagoda
niuce conversation
worthy fable
Whispyr typing up a storm
sonic pagoda
you are telling me sub doesnt take as much vers as outlaw?
waxen oyster
They really dont besides assa likes some haste
sonic pagoda
you are trolling out of this world
sonic pagoda
no yyou dont know how to play outlaw
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> Do you know how big the dmg increase/loss on ST with induc...
it's like 0.5% worse ir something like that I'm pretty sure but only because if you followed the rules to pool above 150 you'd have like 8% extra sanguine uptime or some shit like you're just never in a state to be pooling like that
sonic pagoda
just stop
waxen oyster
I've played outlaw entire tiers
got me fucked up if you think im playing killing spree
sonic pagoda
you got me fucked up with half the shit you just typed its like you dont read anything
or sim anything
worthy fable
it's like 0.5% worse ir something like that I'm pretty sure but only because if ...
ait big
sonic pagoda
no they dont
assa is mastery over crit
sub is vers over mastery with crit no haste
sonic pagoda
as you get more gear assa likes some vers single target it likes a little haste in m+ it likes 0 haste and mastery over crit into vers no haste
waxen oyster
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
sonic pagoda
they do not like the same stats or gear
yeah that command is proabbly right for ppl who dont push end game content
that dont reach max ilvl and push high keys
or run sims
fallow canopy
sonic pagoda
Xiani just stop
golden loom
waxen oyster
Yeah i've messed with different secondary craft combos
i gain a whole 2k dps
in some setups
sonic pagoda
xiani shutup you just said to play sub you only swap a neck fcrom assa you are a troll
coral ibex
haste is great in m+ what
sonic pagoda
nooj lmao
coral ibex
waxen oyster
Yeah you can swap a neck and be fine for assa
golden loom
Everytime you look at this channel lately its dust saying random shit
waxen oyster
that has some haste
sonic pagoda
yeah i need haste with infinite energy from rupture sniping sure
hollow river
xiani shutup you just said to play sub you only swap a neck fcrom assa you are a...
you're putting way too much stock into stats bud
scarlet orbit
If you play bleed you want haste if not not so much thats it
sonic pagoda
we already choose a talent that speeds them up what?
sonic pagoda
the end goal is not bleed build lmao what are you guys smoking?
sonic pagoda
actually the sim i just ran improved dungeon slice from 3.4 to 4.2
solar wyvern
Memememememem i LOVE .01% GAINNNS
sonic pagoda
not quite what you are thinking
scarlet orbit
the end goal is not bleed build lmao what are you guys smoking?
What is your definition of end goal? Pretty sure there are 20s timed with bleed
sonic pagoda
mr...i just run patchwerk even for m+?
golden loom
Charrend you change 10 pieces between sub and assa right
solar wyvern
Yes sir i do sir
sonic pagoda
if you think you walk into a 20 without playing hybrid you are wild
hollow river
actually the sim i just ran improved dungeon slice from 3.4 to 4.2
yeah that wasn't just stats there's no shot
solar wyvern
Just trinkets
waxen oyster
Wait what trinket do you swap
red schooner
fast phoenix
its more correct to say ilvl matters, agi is worse than all of my secondaries al...
usually increase in ilvl is agi haha, as long as number go up ^
spice spire
What if you never drop combat
golden loom
Everyone is trolling yeah
spice spire
solar wyvern
Yeah if your group pulls correctly and you use worn doll you dont drop stacks except for very very long downtime
spice spire
Like if you run eye, you pull very differently
runic hinge
You pull like quakewar
runic hinge
Never out of combat fuck your healer fuck your rogues
sonic pagoda
what keys are you timing with sub charrend?
spice spire
Never out of combat fuck your healer fuck your rogues
I watch healer mana
Idgaf about rogues tho
runic hinge
Yeah idc either
solar wyvern
19 rookery, top basically. Assa is just better
sonic pagoda
yeah sub is dog water
runic hinge
Fatebound doesn’t run double vanish tho so I might care now
solar wyvern
But mechagon has merit for sub too
But as the dungeon gets more optimized you can pull trash onto bosses so assa wins out usually
sonic pagoda
xiani had no idea what they wre tlaking about so they called you in to talk about sub as if it wants same stats as assa to perform properly then just totally blew outlaw with the wind when talking about what gear and how to optimize
yes
assa iis good outlaw is good and fun
waxen oyster
Because sub and sin can use just about the same gear
sonic pagoda
sub is burst one thing do nothing for 1 -1.5 mins until burst again
on prio danger add
waxen oyster
and outlaw has a meme haste tax that blizz added for no reason
sonic pagoda
just becaeu you cant play the class you are dogging on it
solar wyvern
Oh I don't care about the stats convo tbh, stats don't matter on assa as long as you aren't being a complete dumb and stacking haste and nothing else
sonic pagoda
i mean with how large the gear has gotten and what you have mandatory on tier pieces
waxen oyster
Because stats dont matter
besides mastery is terrible for outlaw
same mastery since 2009
sonic pagoda
off pieces just compliment...bigger crit bigger evis but we are reaching dr's so it starts to tell you to grab some vers and other stats
solar wyvern
Mastery isn't bad if its on demand,.like HoC on outlaw goes pretty hard
sonic pagoda
mastery is pretty bad on outlaw however mastery is good for on demand burst and single target dam
solar wyvern
Big pack, press HoC, bladeflurry go brrrr
buoyant herald
same mastery since 2009
Tragic that it’s also been bad and boring since then too
scarlet orbit
What class has interesting mastery? Ele shami maybe?
sonic pagoda
double spells is cool i have an ele sham
looks cool at first then it gets boring
unless yhou have perma PI
also i just said the sims telling me to craft crit vers gloves is nice becasue i play outlaw as well so thats an up crafted piece for both....and in single target sims it tells me to use a fuckin haste vers ring on my ass over circes...i guess mastery isnt weighted as high as crit in single target scenarios
buoyant herald
Most mastery is boring in a gameplay sense
buoyant herald
Ele is a good example, great visuals at least
Enhance giving increased SS resets is kinda nice too
sonic pagoda
xiani do you actually comprehend what you read?
waxen oyster
Yeah assa secondaries literally dont matter
buoyant herald
But outlaw, yikes. Literally just extra auto attacks in a sea of tiny damage events
waxen oyster
You go for agi aka ilvl
sonic pagoda
but yes circes is a .6% increase over a 681 crafted ring in dungeon slice but a negative in st situations
sonic pagoda
yeah drop all your mastery and stack haste tell me a story
waxen oyster
even less when its an st loss
fallow canopy
waxen oyster
you’d have to actuvely go out of your way
sonic pagoda
1% of 100k is not a lot
zealous moth
stacke haste vers on your assa rogue and tell me a story
the healer rogue
sonic pagoda
Xiani you are and were no help fyi and what you said did not make any sense....you said nothing of value
normal mist
dick measuring now
subtle tundra
dustx is just ragebaiting
sonic pagoda
he brought it upon himself
subtle tundra
holy moly
fallow canopy
link your io now 
waxen oyster
im not mentally ill enough to do keys
fast phoenix
unzip the pants lets see em
waxen oyster
and not get title
hidden bay
post logs now 😡
fast phoenix
im not mentally ill enough to do keys
man of culture
normal mist
Dicks on the table RIGHT NOW
hidden bay
or you suck 😡
fallow canopy
or you suck 😡
I suck regardless
sonic pagoda
ah see he sucks and tells opther to play better
zealous moth
im not mentally ill enough to do keys
cringe but based
sonic pagoda
he says sims are garbage
zealous moth
amazing
waxen oyster
fast phoenix
unless you have an immortal title just take your dicks out
golden loom
unless you have an immortal title just take your dicks out
Delve one? I do!
fallow canopy
M+ers 
solar wyvern
Ngl man I don't do sims for m+ anymore because versatility is just required for survival at a certain point
sonic pagoda
i have bloodsail im half way to insane
hollow river
he brought it upon himself
they brought it upon themselves.. by trying to tell you mostly correct shit? just drop it man
solar wyvern
So no point
fast phoenix
Delve one? I do!
zero deaths in 25 man IC
sonic pagoda
they brought it upon themselves.. by trying to tell you mostly correct shit? jus...
nah brother he didnt say anything correct at all
solar wyvern
Its why my assa and sub sets are similar, they both play 16000 (14%) versa
sonic pagoda
pushing for title like what? getting better at the game? why even play the game xiani? if you mythic raid and dont get CE what are you doing?
solar wyvern
Cause versa op
fallow canopy
nah brother he didnt say anything correct at all
I disagree but I'm just here for the giggles
normal mist
I disagree but I'm just here for the giggles
i can share popcorn
hollow river
nah brother he didnt say anything correct at all
"stats barely matter for assa" is correct
zealous moth
If you do keys and dont get title
i mean you are getting crests, gear, vault, just doing a different type of content that's not raid
fallow canopy
i can share popcorn
waxen oyster
2% more damage really matters
sonic pagoda
Cause versa op
it was like a week or two ago i got in an arrgumeent about stats sayinv vers is op and there comes a point where you have to take more vers.......
waxen oyster
when you get onetapped
solar wyvern
it was like a week or two ago i got in an arrgumeent about stats sayinv vers is ...
You would be right, try cinderbrew 20 with 5% vs 18% versa
sonic pagoda
you dont get onetapped if your not bad
fast phoenix
i was naughty and crafted some verse mastery items, was a difference of 0.1% per item, game breaking
solar wyvern
Throw chair is a lot scarier
zealous moth
you dont get onetapped if your not bad
i mean
zealous moth
trueish
cerulean walrus
golden loom
Throw chair is a lot scarier
Just dodge 
sonic pagoda
if you have enough vers and you press defensives you dont get 1 tapped lmao
zealous moth
but m+ is full of damage you can't avoid
fallow canopy
Just dodge <:basegcat:1107701282577334292>
fucking muscles have aimbot smh
sonic pagoda
and to say assa doesnt mind all stats is kind of true
solar wyvern
Just dodge <:basegcat:1107701282577334292>
When i press feint cloak for dr and i natty dodge it...
zealous moth
shouldn't get one tapped but you can make a mistake
sonic pagoda
in raid it will tell you to grab some haste becase you will become starved in m+ you want more versa
thats all there is to it
balmy condor
I'm having to pay attention to outlaw for like another hour can you guys maybe postpone your screaming until after
waxen oyster
lmao haste for energy
solar wyvern
Wait
cerulean walrus
Haste for energy is a turbo meme
normal mist
We're talking about the 0.1% of the playerbase that does keys above 18s right?
solar wyvern
Lets move this to the outlaw channel! Problem solved
red schooner
What happened in outlaw
spice spire
What happened in outlaw
Stuff
subtle tundra
I'm having to pay attention to outlaw for like another hour can you guys maybe p...
what are the children upset about
haughty flicker
Lets move this to the outlaw channel! Problem solved
zealous moth
since whyspir dropped here i'll ask my stupid question
balmy condor
what are the children upset about
been a long day of bans
fallow canopy
lmao haste for energy
1 more apm per 10% 
fast phoenix
Haste for energy is a turbo meme
zerocool loves his algari mana oil for more haste for more energy
zealous moth
is mechano chore amplifier still better over all other M trinkets or is the wowhead site just outdated?
subtle tundra
been a long day of bans
good, any recognizable names?
red schooner
Did whispyr finally shoot Zac
normal mist
not yet
cerulean walrus
is mechano chore amplifier still better over all other M trinkets or is the wowh...
BiS list is a meme
hidden bay
is mechano chore amplifier still better over all other M trinkets or is the wowh...
yea wowhead outdated, no BiS for delve belt gg
spice spire
No Zac so fine for now
balmy condor
is mechano chore amplifier still better over all other M trinkets or is the wowh...
idk it's about equal but the wowhead bis lists are also outdated probably because I'd rather shoot myself than update those ratshit ass lists
zealous moth
idk it's about equal but the wowhead bis lists are also outdated probably becaus...
LOL
spice spire
But the reaper is coming
Call me the reaper
subtle tundra
if i could id hammer zac myself
fallow canopy
yea wowhead outdated, no BiS for delve belt gg
whispyr is outlaw police now, no times to get the belt on 
solar wyvern
idk it's about equal but the wowhead bis lists are also outdated probably becaus...
Based
balmy condor
good, any recognizable names?
ryukage
normal mist
free money hack
free direct link to www.raidbots.com
subtle tundra
its cool that i have dodged being banned so far
hidden bay
@haughty flicker post a giant Glorp please
haughty flicker
fallow canopy
its cool that i have dodged being banned so far
miau
balmy condor
spice spire
Please stop
zealous moth
balmy condor
figured it probly wasn't better than a M Signet
some guy dm'd me why like a belt or a boot or something wasn't crit/haste because he simmed all the items on the bis list and then found improvements
I just blocked and moved on
balmy condor
cannot have a discussion with these single cell aliens
zealous moth
i'd do the same
fallow canopy
I just blocked and moved on
sent you new bis pics pls respond
hidden bay
some guy dm'd me why like a belt or a boot or something wasn't crit/haste becaus...
shouldve updated the list, why you just block improvements?????
balmy condor
sent you new bis pics pls respond
yeah please the hyperoptimized wowhead bis list
thorny rain
with how fast these fights are getting now on Mythic, are people trying to still get Eye of Kezan for their 2nd chip? I have myth Pacemaker and Jastor, Hero Signet and kinda debating what to get next. Either HoC heroic (since I missed the kill) or what lol
balmy condor
if you can tell me what it's bis for I'd love to know
coral ibex
with how fast these fights are getting now on Mythic, are people trying to still...
mythic signet
bronze pike
after all the other times
hidden bay
my gear is BiS, take that as list. theres no improvements
bronze pike
what did he do?
hidden bay
bronze pike
did he not like our new pfp
spice spire
he had to do something horrible to get yeeted
Turns out
normal mist
what did he do?
enough
zealous moth
with how fast these fights are getting now on Mythic, are people trying to still...
if you're ass and can get M+ loot probly just skip H HoC and go for M Signet
spice spire
No one reported half the shit he said
fallow canopy
if you can tell me what it's bis for I'd love to know
to read sin channel every once in a while with popcorn and tea and have a few laughs
zealous moth
otherwise eye only seems good on later M Raid fights as it takes around 5 minutes to fully stack
bronze pike
like i did for felhammer
sonic pagoda
if the fight is less than 5.5 mins eye is worst trinket in game
if the fight last longer than 5.5mins eye is best trinket in game
zealous moth
i simmed eye - M Signet - M Pacemaker a while back and it didn't beat a single sim
hidden bay
ok bro
zealous moth
only up to like 10 minutes of fight it was ahead by like 3k dps
haughty flicker
my dad sims higher than ur dad
zealous moth
so probly just get myth track trinkets
balmy condor
ad revenue
no like we have 3 bis lists, an overall, a raid, and an m+ bis list
but the lists themselves are the best items FROM that content, not the best items FOR that content, so like if you look at the bis list and go "ah I need X for raid" or "ah I need X for m+", neither of that makes any sense cause that's not how it's set up
it's just generalized recommendations but it has to say "BIS BEST SUPER UBER ITEM" in the header or else google hates it and it doesn't show up in search and I'm gonna fucking scream
balmy condor
I have people bitching at me about how the wowhead guide is laid out as well like shit with oh but why is everything across so many pages or why are the headers so confusing
because they don't realize that I don't control those (I kinda control headers sometimes), and 99% of it is for google optimization and not human reading eyeball optimization
and it's just like
man fuck
read the room, understand the world you live in
jaunty sky
But I'm lost without content catered for me and only me
waxen oyster
People complaining about free content
jaunty sky
true rapids
But I'm lost without content catered for me and only me
Because of the way algorithms work these days all your content is catered to you already
hidden bay
guide should include saying "learn to play the class on your own and use raidbots"
jaunty sky
It's giving me what i want but not what i need
hidden bay
balmy condor
guide should include saying "learn to play the class on your own and use raidbot...
unironically I try to sneak in "don't read that part, just sim yourself"
onto like 8 different pages
hidden bay
its not working
balmy condor
sometimes I get caught
red schooner
Just select items for the bis list where the first letter of each item spells out 'sim yourself'
balmy condor
I had a whole thing above the bis lists that boiled down to "BiS lists are awful trash don't listen to any of this don't read it, don't bother, just sim"
and that didn't work
hidden bay
in the past 2 years i have been writing instructions/guides/tutorials, however you want to name it 
and its so hard, so so so hard to make it idiotproof you know
balmy condor
so then I moved it under the bis lists
and that didn't work
so then I hid it in the recommendations
but no one is reading that
jaunty sky
in the past 2 years i have been writing instructions/guides/tutorials, however y...
The more you idiotproof it the more convoluted it gets
hidden bay
even made simple videos on how to do it instead of reading the text
and people still cant figure it out
hidden bay
jaja moroes
hollow river
red schooner
in the past 2 years i have been writing instructions/guides/tutorials, however y...
Me when I tried making IT instructions for work systems instead of having to manually guide people through it each time
It didn't work
hidden bay
Me when I tried making IT instructions for work systems instead of having to man...
yes!
balmy condor
<:HmmHmmHmm:917288643373195305>
he's outta line but he's right
red schooner
I'm not even IT
balmy condor
I'm not even IT
you'll never be IT, because you're HIM
red schooner
I'm finally him, I made it
hidden bay
you'll never be IT, because you're HIM
when raid
radiant otter
otherwise eye only seems good on later M Raid fights as it takes around 5 minute...
eye has a lot of variance but on average it's 1 stack every 10 seconds, so on average 3m20s into a fight. if you see 5 minutes somewhere that's someone saying it takes that long to make up for the time it was low stacks
hidden bay
or is your guild dead after clear?
balmy condor
or is your guild dead after clear?
We have like 6 trials
somber sparrow
guilds have to make their gold back after millions of gold in repairs
hidden bay
or let me join discord and you stream
ill hang out in voice
and just play stupid sounds
balmy condor
I think the tank streams
red schooner
guilds have to make their gold back after millions of gold in repairs
Imagine having repairs paid for
balmy condor
We lost our mage
red schooner
Couldn't be my guild
hidden bay
making millions of gold every week from boosting people so they can use their dinars 
@sonic pagoda if you need a carry to get rid of your 3/8 let me know
cerulean walrus
Ryukage about to call up Comcast
spice spire
<@1076594046765637823> if you need a carry to get rid of your 3/8 let me know
Dog ain’t no way
hidden bay
ah true, hes NA
hollow river
sonic pagoda
making millions of gold every week from boosting people so they can use their di...
sure thing and if you need a carry to 3.5k io let me know i got you
sonic pagoda
making millions of gold every week from boosting people so they can use their di...
also no carry needed i use to be a top 25 us raider back in the day shits easy you all just suck and stand in shit for the most part....
spice surge
kungen level
Bro his stream came up in my recommended on twitch like a week ago
How is bro still cookin
hidden bay
well theres still people... who follow him
i mean majority is trolling chat but still
spice surge
Truly a strange kitchen
hidden bay
sure thing and if you need a carry to 3.5k io let me know i got you
if i get more interested in the game and the content isnt dead so fast ill just open groupfinder and do it myself 
fast phoenix
not even top 25 worldwide? psh
hidden bay
And if your main is not your rogue, you can stay quiet
balmy condor
Stop screaming at each other
haughty flicker
We have like 6 trials
invite me
spice spire
What if this is just their foreplay
fallow canopy
not even top 25 worldwide? psh
top 25 in my house
spice spire
Dw I’ll Pwar next tier for u bb
fallow canopy
and I'm not # 24
fast phoenix
top 25 in my house
no one can take that from you, stay strong
spice spire
and I'm not # 24
Crazy
balmy condor
Slow mode is
Slow mode is what I call it when I get you
bronze pike
Slow mode is what I call it when I get you
THATS IT
haughty flicker
half compass
Was looking at the top rogues on raider io. They all seem to be stacking vers instead of crit mastery, is that just for survivability? Or is there a break point at which you want to stop going / crit mastery?
spice spire
WERE FIHTING NOW
balmy condor
Was looking at the top rogues on raider io. They all seem to be stacking vers in...
Survivability yes
hidden bay
Was looking at the top rogues on raider io. They all seem to be stacking vers in...
follow what zeross is doing, hes quite decent 
bronze pike
sonic pagoda
And if your main is not your rogue, you can stay quiet
what are you talking about? brother ive been playing wow since classic....i got like 400 days played on druid lmao....idk how much i have across 4 rouges this class is easy ....CE means nothing pushing m+ is a lot harder than mtyihc raid for the individual player.
hidden bay
😂
half compass
what are you talking about? brother ive been playing wow since classic....i got...
rookie numbers
balmy condor
What part of stop screaming didn’t you hear
spice spire
https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-marvel-hulk-spider-man-me-when-i-get-you-gif-204466402644843222
red schooner
New copypasta unlocked
golden loom
Meow meow meow grr grr woof woof
hidden bay
sonic pagoda
Was looking at the top rogues on raider io. They all seem to be stacking vers in...
there is a also a breakpoint of DR wshere the sims tell you to take vers in the dungeon slice sims
balmy condor
That’s kinda dependent on build and gear and stuff though but yeah, any stat can beat any other stat in theory
trail scarab
what is the command for the spreadsheet with builds ? 
drifting charm
rookie numbers
sonic pagoda
Yeah there is not set stat we shooot for but the sims tell me 24k ish mastery is good in m+ and then crit and vers it tells me to stack idk lol
im only telling the information ive read in the pins the wowhead guuides and what my own sims tell me to do
radiant otter
crit is good because you get combo points and so it's less good in dungeons where you get combo points easier. hope that helps
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
balmy condor
crit is good because you get combo points and so it's less good in dungeons wher...
Incredible
sonic pagoda
this rogue spreadsheet is dog water....what this spreadsheet says and what you actually see happen in game time is completely different
normal mist
everything is dogwater man
drifting charm
Harder hit no likey
normal mist
even playing the game
sonic pagoda
oh yeah lol damge profiles and niches is wild comparisons
agile kestrel
Does anyone happen to have the simc lines to add to quick sim for consumables?
gritty laurel
i always saw the spreadsheet as a "rule of thumb to figure out what to focus on next" at the start of the season
balmy condor
Does anyone happen to have the simc lines to add to quick sim for consumables?
Pinned in #tc-research
agile kestrel
Pinned in <#266712108861751296>
tyty
balmy condor
i always saw the spreadsheet as a "rule of thumb to figure out what to focus on ...
So item level 
haughty flicker
i always saw the spreadsheet as a "rule of thumb to figure out what to focus on ...
the spreadsheet is how i pick what spec i play
if it sims highest its the best
half compass
there is a also a breakpoint of DR wshere the sims tell you to take vers in the ...
yeah, i was confused simming this morning it told me to swap like 3 things around that had vers / mastery on them. I'm only at around 32% crit so wasn't sure
sonic pagoda
item level above all else idk the bis lists are fun to farm for in M+ fuck that raid list lol
gritty laurel
i mean, yeah ilvl pretty much sums it up
sonic pagoda
you have more crit then i do fella
normal mist
I'll be honest, at this point you're already talking just to yourself
drifting charm
Pass the pipe already
balmy condor
I do that sometimes
rancid wind
Is there a bleed based raid build yet?
balmy condor
No
normal mist
Not yet baby
spice spire
Not yet
spice spire
🥀
balmy condor
So no
dapper cradle
🧎🏿♂️
gritty laurel
i remember when officers in my guild tried to tell me to swap to M+ build on heroic gally because adds weren't dying fast enough
fallow canopy
if it sims highest its the best
you are so based its scary
spice spire
“just play it” - Herp, fatebound apologist
spice surge
Play bleed deathstalker in raid and fatebound in keys
spice surge
Truly the pinnacle of assassination
hidden bay
“just play it” - Herp, fatebound apologist
its true, just do it while its still possible
sonic pagoda
i remember when officers in my guild tried to tell me to swap to M+ build on her...
bruh this old guild i was in said to swap to m+ build on rik lmao insted of the 4 bm hunters just playing MM
golden loom
its true, just do it while its still possible
I play deathstalker to enjoy it before the fatebound takeover next season trust
spice spire
M+ build for Rik 
gritty laurel
it was very much a "sure thing boss" then not do it moment
balmy condor
Take carnage double vanish for the sudden demise on barrels it’s so logical
jaunty sky
I mean they always spawn nice and bunched up in melee right
red schooner
M+ build for Rik <a:AINTNAURWAY:1122187161173757973>
Use it to demise allies who get mind controlled
spice surge
I mean you would do more damage to barrels
red schooner
Gotta teach them somehow
sonic pagoda
ye its the best i just swapped to oulaw man and did 2nd most barrel dmg next to a furry war cant be arsed
balmy condor
I mean you would do more damage to barrels
That’s the goal!
golden loom
I mean they always spawn nice and bunched up in melee right
No thats why you also take flying daggers
drifting charm
I mean you would do more damage to barrels
No barrels no energy baby!
jaunty sky
No thats why you also take flying daggers
balmy condor
But not because he micromanages
drifting charm
Well, he might still be
That double back was crazyyyy
balmy condor
I thought about it for a second
spice spire
golden loom
Im so excited for reclear tomorrow
waxen oyster
raid leaders who try to micromanage
while also not knowing specs
is some memeworthy shit
buoyant herald
Don’t get me started
drifting charm
is some memeworthy shit
During pride month? Sheesh
sonic pagoda
its like yeye raid lead you just sit over there and play bm hunter and call strats leave us to do the dmg
drifting charm
Don’t get me started
hollow river
buoyant herald
I have a Richard reverberation micromanagement story but have told it before
slim copper
!richard
prisma monolithBOT
buoyant herald
And don’t wanna spin out again
balmy condor
my eyes hurt just thinking about reading it
drifting charm
I have a Richard reverberation micromanagement story but have told it before
Hahahah I cackled at Richard reverberation
balmy condor
boss of all time dick reverb
waxen oyster
ngl most hunters i run into
gritty laurel
does that make a BWONG sound?
waxen oyster
are either mechanic andys
buoyant herald
I also got the same finger wagging for stix
waxen oyster
or the dumbest mf known to man
balmy condor
Get it right king
I can't get it right quake why don't you come over and tutor me
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyyyy need to pass my exams
spice spire
I can't get it right quake why don't you come over and tutor me
How about I just Richard u tf down
balmy condor
won't you help me
waxen oyster
also whats with good havoc mains
spice spire
gritty laurel
true gamers
buoyant herald
Since we’re hating on DH. Side note - worst fucking tippers when I craft for them.
gritty laurel
i never know how much to tip either tbh, usually throw in a couple thousand
buoyant herald
That’s pretty normal
But your average DH will tip 100g then ask you to use your conc for free
buoyant herald
Oh sorry bro I forgot to include the chitin armor banding lol can’t you just provide it lol it’s cheap lol here’s my 50g tip btw
waxen oyster
no conc obvs
sonic pagoda
500g tip for recrafts
2k ish for 0to max crafts
beginning of xpac shit was like 15k a craft
fuckin wild
i only made 1 mil from selling herb/mines/fish but still
slim copper
guys fastest way to get vstones? I was gone for almost a month and I am SO far behind
buoyant herald
Most people just say tip whatever at this point I find
agile kestrel
I always want mastery to be my highest secondary when pressing DM+shiv+KB correct?
sonic pagoda
yeah these bots on area 52 have made more than there share of gold hussling kids for crafts and recrafts
agile kestrel
stats are so close Alc chaos would move crit above
simming consumables is erroring for some reason
slim copper
I always want mastery to be my highest secondary when pressing DM+shiv+KB correc...
remember signet if you're runnig it
sonic pagoda
grooss your stats are gross no way you do proper dmg
agile kestrel
yeah that's what I thought
sonic pagoda
oh most definelty wants mroe mastery
flint escarp
I just checked some top rouges talents and it seems most don't run the pure bleed build. Is hybrid more pupular right now in AOE?
balmy condor
I always want mastery to be my highest secondary when pressing DM+shiv+KB correc...
in theory yes, sims will account for it though so like if your flask sometimes pushes you over the border and you get crit then that's fine too, just sim 
!builds
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
sonic pagoda
like i have 24k mastery and 10k crit
nope thats find thats what i got about 2k more crit and then 6k vers and like 2k haste
agile kestrel
and just my opinion but you probably want more mastery than that
we take what we can get from vault my dude
fallow canopy
sonic pagoda
fuckin based
we take the gear we can get
we sit on our cata charges with ful lmythic gear and dont sim anything
agile kestrel
I won't bite into the ragebait
slim copper
sometimes that gear is sockets but...
spice spire
slim copper
this math just isnt mathing... i need someone to explain this to me.
agile kestrel
shit toon
slim copper
i sim my gv... HoC is almost equivalent but its giving at the minimum end of the range 500 more mastery
trail scarab
thats some gear
slim copper
get outta here with your ninja turtle ass
slim copper
make crafted bracers? idfk
agile kestrel
Sims say this is best ¯_(ツ)_/¯
buoyant herald
What’s making you want more mastery then
agile kestrel
The biggest downfall is wep is haste/verse
agile kestrel
What’s making you want more mastery then
just these few ppl saying "you need more mastery"
slim copper
I always want mastery to be my highest secondary when pressing DM+shiv+KB correc...
you asked my guy...
it was unsolicited.
only thing i send unsolicited is weiner pics
weiner dog pics
agile kestrel
well yeah, but the answer was followed up by "i have 20k mastery, you want more mastery" lol
anyways
thank you for your time
i hope you have
a wonderful day
🫡
slim copper
only if you have a better one!
empty tide
balmy condor
i sim my gv... HoC is almost equivalent but its giving at the minimum end of the...
more stat for less time = less stat for long time
trail scarab
i want more vers 
hollow river
pliant remnant
Whispyr p*sh stream? 
hollow river
I'm on farm man don't make me do it
farm some mapple stories
hollow river
whispyr osrs arc when
daring imp
mythic house or mythic signet? both are simming the same for me
balmy condor
they are the same
spice spire
Happy pride month kings
pliant remnant
spice spire
sonic pagoda
mythic house or mythic signet? both are simming the same for me
its the same thing signet will pull ahead by just a tiny bit if a bunch of ppl are using signet
hollow river
okay now this is an idea
I thought that was replying to the whispyr osrs arc for a second and almost got so happy
haughty flicker
lmao
hollow river
spice spire
@hollow river gonna see Jake in September need me to give him anything?
balmy condor
backshots
spice spire
That was already on the docket
balmy condor
frontshots
spice spire
Interesting
balmy condor
while looking into his eyes tenderly and reassuring him that you're not going to leave like the others
royal lantern
hollow river
<@629463378250956810> gonna see Jake in September need me to give him anything?
Just give him a note that says “2147M”
spice spire
normal mist
Guys am i a gaymer now?
balmy condor
no
pliant remnant
no
normal mist
real
balmy condor
34 more points my love
quiet oar
this week for sure
Have you tried getting more points?
normal mist
Yes
quiet oar
Alrihht
worthy rose
hope everyone had a good vault week this week
i had to take a gem socket
im still waiting on fucking mythic shoulders and it just iant dropping
sullen mural
Vaults just gonna be gold for most ppl atp
buoyant herald
I got a heavy mastery/crit ring that could replace my crafted but I’m kinda gear capped so I suppose I should be happy with any upgrade
worthy rose
im still waiting on a mythic shoulder drop to catalyze
the only piece of gear holding me back now is shoulders
or the cyrce circlet
its too good to not use
i prefer using it over jastor tbh
sullen mural
I used both till mastery myth track ring
summer bramble
Anyone done the new dastardly duo event? Idk if it's like this outside of it too but the master assassin buff disappears after 1 application
worthy rose
its either the jastor and crafted or circlet and crafted for me
whats the dastardly duo
vivid seal
is it a big deal for signet to give u crit instead of mastery?
hidden bay
yes
coral ibex
its much better for it to give you mastery
worthy rose
Guys am i a gaymer now?
where the 3k at
balmy condor
Anyone done the new dastardly duo event? Idk if it's like this outside of it too...
bugged to shit i heard
worthy rose
thems the rules
runic hinge
its bellow me, so no, you are bad
M+ enjoyer tryan
humble verge
is the D-Duo not like
worthy rose
is it worth buying a carry and token from a mythic raid run
humble verge
max 619 ilvl?
worthy rose
i need shoulders
i dont think im gona belucky enough to get one on vault
fuck
wonder how much it costs
seems like 100 usd
royal lantern
is it worth buying a carry and token from a mythic raid run
no lol
royal lantern
upgrade them?
waxen oyster
so whats the offpiece
worthy rose
mythic helmet
humble verge
seems like 100 usd
uh, some prices i know - no its not my prices whispyr
worthy rose
crit mastery helmet
waxen oyster
make it tier?
worthy rose
but tier set has wrong substats
balmy condor
uh, some prices i know - no its not my prices whispyr
worthy rose
i prefer to keep it crit/mast
humble verge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159545771998331022/1182291627151200296...
holy shit, ive been looking for this
hidden bay
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159545771998331022/1182291627151200296...
i would like 10 minutes of matching pfp
get that frog
worthy rose
uh, some prices i know - no its not my prices whispyr
but thats 3/8 minimum
i just want a rik reverb
and token
humble verge
when are we doing 10h sleepcall whisp
worthy rose
singular boss coz i cbf about raiding
humble verge
i just want a rik reverb
idk gl
worthy rose
hmm
worthy rose
feels wrong to need a boost tho
im fairly sure i can pull weight
i just dont have the guild for it
or friends
sadge
waxen oyster
idk helm stats are not as relevant
worthy rose
it is what it is
waxen oyster
as ilvl
worthy rose
might have to just eat shit with the hero shoulders
waxen oyster
told him to just cata helm
waxen oyster
and craft shoulders
worthy rose
im crafting bracers this week
LOL
il give it one more week to try get shoulders
if im lucky or not
worthy rose
be a memelord make an outlaw weapon
royal lantern
mate im sitting at a heroic chest and dont give a fuck lol
worthy rose
and grief your team in floodgate
royal lantern
its literally 3ilvl
worthy rose
isnt hero to mythic a huge jump
humble verge
i think im gonna learn sub and outlaw soon
worthy rose
its 671 versus 684
humble verge
(surely that will happen)
waxen oyster
yeah but that requires me to play ks
hidden bay
i think im gonna learn sub and outlaw soon
wasted time
worthy rose
kililng spree is the best part
worthy rose
for the longest time i thought killing spree made you invulnerable to damage like cloak of shadows
jokes
it was just a healer mechanic my friend was doign the whole time
it just spreads damage and you take it after
worthy rose
biggest piece of shit ability ever
royal lantern
isnt hero to mythic a huge jump
no?
worthy rose
wot
yall confusing me
hero maxes out at 671 ilvl
mythic maxes out at 684
crafted is 681
hero to mythic jump is massive
waxen oyster
on weapon its quite big
hidden bay
its more dps and more stamina
buoyant herald
biggest piece of shit ability ever
You trying to be the new Ryu?
hidden bay
royal lantern
is it "paying a mythic boost instead of just crafting a item on the slot" a lot?
waxen oyster
slots like bracers not so much
worthy rose
You trying to be the new Ryu?
whos ryu
does he hate outlaw
if he does hes a brother to me
buoyant herald
Indeed
waxen oyster
think of wowhead posters
royal lantern
wait what??
waxen oyster
lmfao what did he do
winged sun
Tomorrow/next following days for sure
normal mist
<:Zerossthinking:1100799833150861372>
Im not even playing rogue xD
royal lantern
was it his sudden "politics in spec channels" outbursts?
worthy rose
next season i stg
worthy rose
im playing unholy
hidden bay
