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yeah
š
i started about 14-15 searching
conquered that like
10-15 years later

guys
why are we talking about women, this is rogue discord
we've never seen one
plus its pride month
love your homies
oh yeah i love them a LOT
weird flex
It's not weird, it's MARVELOUS
"i fucked a couple of months ago" okay bro and i havent whats your point
just kidding, congratulations :>
im sure you'll be a fine dad!
Ahahaha nah, I'm way too chill
ild go crazy,dunno how u handle it
take courage brother
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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I just want it to be outside so I can teach it to say daddy and rogue
Hey guys, is there a use for shadowmeld in rotations?
Ok thanks!
Doesn't work on boss fights (the getting the stealth part) but useful to avoid casts on you
@balmy condor How do I increase the alpha on the utility spells?
@worthy fable press the buttons harder
I wonder that How much damage everyone can do in dungeon single bossļ¼ If you use assassin talent
Pure ST in bleed build?
Nothing, no deeps here
ahhhh, relaxation levels increase
gally down
any of the smarties in the discord rn?
i got a problem
#showtooltip deathmark
/use 13
/use 14
/use deathmark
my signet of the priory is often not casting on the same global as deathmark, even if it's not out of sync or anything
other trinket is just the seafforium pacemaker so it's not even on use
Are you in range and pressing it when you can use a global
I'm pretty sure DM is not off gcd
maybe ur spamming deathmark while ur on GCD yeah
Does it matter what you send your supercharged combopoint on?
but it also doesnt really matter if u cast signet a second before deathmark
it's usually activating deathmark just fine but not launching the trinket
and im spamming the macro
like im a spammer so it usually looks like this
well thats weird
it was a non-issue with skardyns
is it happening in M+ on keys below 12s?
i know that the one thing can push it out of sync below 12
that's not it . it happens so often im staring at both spells being available
to be sure.
does it happen if ur just hitting a dummy
not just now but i think i did replicate my issue on a dummy before
miau
anyways u have potion macroed to trinket separate from deathmark?
I have 2 binds but use the potion one 99% of the time
only time I use the one without potion is like if raid fight is 1 pot only and theres a late lust or damage amp
i watch them side by side and only one goes š¦
i can just separate it
it lasts longer than our cds anyway
iirc ideally envenom, but better to use it to refresh CT than let it drop
at least in keys
So atleast one on envenom?
Atleast one pref two Envenoms
But not worth to send on Rupture?
i try to hit all envenoms yeah
rupture you can refresh ahead of time
before cds
means being proactive about making sure you slap a new rupture on before going into cds
doesnt matter
you ignore it exists and just play like ussual
Thats probably an issue with your macro
Works just fine
real chads /use 14
or they're pressing the macro before their gcd finishes spinning
so the trinket goes off but not DM
self reporting as a bottom is wild
Tell these frauds
Hey is the siphoning stiletto just a never use?
correct
Should call it suicide stiletto
there is an item like that
well, does that effect
well I know what I'm getting after work
Deoesnt work at current max level
Well that's a shame
I love when they add a bunch of toys and make 80% of them unusable the next expac
Real chads type /use signet of the priory in the chat after using DM
Need to have a contest for highest parses by only typing out ability uses
Is the stats fine or should I lean into one more than the other
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Thank you
Hey, just coming back from few month out. From what i can see on pins and talents, bleed is now meta ? According to Whispyr video, rotations should be updated, however, both on icyveins and wowhead it still show kingsbane. Am i missing something here ?
You didnt scroll down to m+ section of wowhead then
Bleed is very prevalent, some people playing hybrid build with KB, or a cleave build with KB
Thereās title range keys with both build archetypes
F**k i'm stupid, just stopped by and looked at "Best Assassination Rogue Opener" and played with the "ST" and "Multi target" filter and though it was just that.. my bad
I thought I left this server iv met way too many dipshits night guys be cool :D
its simply just not my fault any of the 15 keys ive pugged into this week none of them get timed
ret pallay doing barely 3 mil overall in a rookery is a problem
tank pulling double diffuser into the double oracle room and a hunter standing in melee with the big circle is not my problem
is it common for assa to just gap ppl even in 15 keys? or they are just bad at their classes?
becasue this is starting to get frustrating....no on invites rogues and then i top meters and they wipe us or do piss poor damooge
Youāre in hell ELO brother
That sounds like bait
Hes just a free spirit (a wrong one, but atleast hes free)
also im doing like 1.8-2mil on bosses....wth is going on lol assa is fine ppl are bad at the game or there are bad rogues they have come in contact with ruining my experience lmao
how long are your boss fights
at what point do people decide to start using authority of radiant power instead of authority of the depths
at any point you do m+ or raid
idk but im wooping ret palas and mm huntards on aoe and boss fights for some reason
MM hunter should beat assa rogue
should it?
and the sheer amount of ret paladins in the game is obnoxious
i guess mm only does good dmg with PI?
and 15s arent very high
gamer varas lololol
so the quality of the players is low
in df when pros were doing the 32 keys i was doing 28s on a frost mage whne fire was meta
but is ee that popint being made quality of player being low
what
i only been back a month i feel as if this elo are just ppl that have been hard stuck withn max gear the whole season
Bro had a stroke.
players are bad in 15s
its annoying
how do you not understand to take the rookery big purple circle out of the group? and LOS it especailly as a fuckin hutner
we have a good pace then they decide to double pull room before second boss with lust....and then commence to wipe
like holy fuck why?
life uhm... finds a way
i just want to run physical god comp and win thats it
LIke i fuckin wish most classes would beat me on the meters in a dungeon...then maybe we would time it
welp 15 WS with gauradian and resto druid at least i got a war bfuff
its even worse this season cause of resillient keys
i think resillient keys are brilliant
motw is better than battleshout
now my keys dont get bricked becasue shitters
didnt say its bad
i get both XD
u better hope they release resillient delves if u ever wanna get the belt fully upgraded bucko
Nah the downside of resil keys is eventually
the bad players bang their heads enough
i just said pugging is worse cause of resilient
until they get carried
through volume the bad players just pug until they get carried in a key
ive seen it ive carried them
well youre still playing at a low enough level where people can get carried
but at the same time when i push my own key and getr resilients its nice and nice to help my friedns push too i guess
gamer varse is doing 20s everyone hes a pro
with 14s timed
and they invited a fuckin hunter
fuck off
you are calling 15 and 16 keys low and saying resilient keys are bad over and over again
youre doing 15s and complaining
you have a fuckin ego and a superiority complex
send license to be horny too just to confirm
complaining about bads
quake how about you show ur 4k io before u start piping up?
i dont even play
i watch the streamers run 16s and 17s and they stand in shit lmao
varas we need your input on why green orc over brown
Racism
cause i paid for race change before they buffed brown
WAAAAAA
he doesnt push becasue pugs have pushed really high with resilient keys and learned how to run the dungeon and its ruined his experience
Fwiw 15s arenāt really high keys
20s arent high either
xd
i dont pug anymore
684 ilvl with a team guys time to push
well i dont pug cause i dont play, but i also wasnt pugging before
havent found inner peace smh my hips
Proof?
Hot
Iām always raging
Canāt be baited
true you are usually the master of baiting some would say
dustxW
Finish Clair Obscur in the meantime
That requires acknowledging the French
Iād never
i cant cause i stopped playing and im watching gameplay
Ty king
honestly that game made me reconsider my stance on the fr*nch
Listen I'm all for bashing the french. But this time, they cooked

France looks like a mess
I got linked a video of riots in the streets over, soccer.
I'm just chilling with promise mascot agency now, need the happy game to combat the pit of grief that was Clair Obscur

celebrating is ok but what they did...? no words
after the PSG win?
I'm a football fan but ultras are just the scum of the football culture
Yeah I mean excessive fans of anything in general are...
Well, niche retro collectors are cool usually.
why do they insist on a parasale in a 15 rooke?
just do fuckin dmg lol and you dont need it
because a streamer did it
these kids need to just play the game instead of being a fan lol
im never joining a key with wizards again
tbf, doing techs in pug groups that REALLY dont need it often just cause more harm then good
THis this part...doing tech is for when youve hit a wall....its not for non 3.1k players that havent even timed all their 14s trying 15s for the first time...too much to fuck up they want the tech becasue they cant do dmg with 682 ilvl gear or they arent using tier 3 consumes just a bunch of different reasons why its not a good ide
Anyone know which parts of sin are counted as physical vs magic damage? Like where are bleeds physical and nature damage magic?
Kinda trying to figure out how DH/Monk debuff impact the damage profile
like, sure if somebody says "hey i wanna try out a skip" its allright
But when its a +10 key and suddenly they wanna skip the meadery patrol with meld and fuck it up, what are we even doing
like 5% from sham buff
the same kinda
wiping and wasting time to dumb shit
in m+ monk slightly better
in raid DH slightly better
and like mate
all bleeds are physical
wow dmg types are simple
physical dmg and bleeds = physical
literally EVERYTHING else = magical
shaman buff is our best buff XD
no? warrior buff is the best one for all that can use it?
Details also shows the type of damage in the breakdown iirc
ah maybe sham buff is best for the outlaw but yes shaman and warrior buff XD
monk buff is meh doesnt matter
in a m+
its like
warrior>shaman>the rest
and its more or less the same for all that can use those good
zug zug
melee comp please...i dont even trust hunters
teh whole meta thing is hilarious
they see that S tier boomy mage dk comp and think they need it in every key lmao....then you see bansherz comp phys god comp doing 19s and 20s in mdi then you see on the leaderboard after turbo boost just everything doing 20 keys

stuff trickles down
always does
sadly just how it works
and huge parts of recent design choices from blizz encourage it even
yeah it does i seen an mm hunter said he wont invite rogues becasue what does a rogue do for him lmao
like it does more dmg than your bum ass lookin for pi war buff and druid buff and shama buff
turns out, when people cry for years "why cant my alt be fully geared in 8 minutes??????" until blizz does it
rerolling characters becomes trivial
and more do it
and it becomes more "expected" to do

i mean ...ive tried every class
besides preist and the dragon useless classes
those classes are lame
every toon to 645 ilvl only takes like 8 hours lmao
and i regret it but it let me know what i like to play...
rogue and mage
and feral druid but why play feral when i play rogue
did yall swap to cleave for 17s or just stayed bleed
oh yeah becaue aoe stops
this whole block feature is not very effectice, i still feel the urge to read the hidden messages

i ran some 12s and 13s with the same ppl and then they wanted to reroll to meta comp to "push" here i am now 200 io above them and my mage that i rerolled to is where there mains are lol
discord block is anti help
shoves it in your face even more
yeah but at least it tells me when this chat is full of nonsense so i can ignore it for a while
back to studying for an exam 
IM ready for my summer classes to start tomorrow less focusing on wow better for life
enjoy wow more when less time invested cant miss something that you are surrounded in all the time
real
Hey yall, planning to make an alt for phys comps; been leaning towards sin. Before I do the research and read all the guides & actually start gearing, whats the downside to sin and how does it compare towards outlaw. Like whats sins niche that outlaw cant do and vice versa? (Prolly gonna cap around 17-18 keys if that helps with context)
Low count keys favor outlaw (think of workshop after first pull) theyāre also slightly higher on st.
Sinās weakness is single target in keys.
I see, if theres ever funnel does sins value skyrocket? I play mage so not sure if the routes are the same in phys comps but usually every boss has a pack with it is where im going at
does outlaw do more st than hybrid/cleave tho?
Funnel is good for us. Itās not arcane level but itās up there
Probably not FI.
is that delve belt something like the ring in s1 or delve-specific
Its similar to the ring
Ahh i see, wasnt really planning on trying to farm 2 itemsets just due to the time it will take but with how phy comps usually go do you think it would be better to gear towards sin or outlaw? I assume its based off damage profiles on the other classes but just a general consensus what do you think is brought more in phys comps for rogues?
Depends on how your tank is playing tbh
So true lol
Rogues want warrior and shaman mostly those are our best buffs
MotW is pretty good
I assume this is just based off target cap? & if doing packs with boss?
hi
priory is pretty good for assa rogue
doing 5.5mil overall then i have a survival hunter with 4 kicks doing 3 mil overall gg
Kinda yeah
and a frost mage doing 4k gg i guess they dont know fireball 1 shots ppeeeps also tank not moving shit out of consecrate its a wrap
Though if we talk high high keys i think it doesnt matter too much
Where does sub fall in to this? Im just completely new to rogue so not sure on how any of these specs damage profiles look like
We only have 2 specs
o rip i see, thanks!!
Theres some stuff sub is good at
like assa rogues used to go out of rookery and spec into sub for last boss
your not going to play sub...also you wont do well with outlaw if youve never played rogue unless you have played enhance
unsure if they still do
Sub is good in raid, but for keys sin/otl is better atm
Is that just due to apm?
if youve been playing arcane with prio dmg and a time windo just play assa
apm and all the stuff you have to track and the conditions of button priority...just play sin
I see, thanks for the help everyone!
Outlaw apm is half fake anyways
U do press a lot but just same button over and over if u have good rng
thats not a lie just slmamin sinister strike and BTE most times
No
..?
i mean but isnt ret palla high apm with just 4 buttons and 2 cds at 45 seconds?
you dont build much as sin in aoe either
Yeah
fok rupture
stop stealing my questionmarks guy
It sounds like you have never touched the spec
fok ruptrurex4 fok CT
I mean apm in general is just a fake stat
weaving mutilate and envenom every 8-10 seconds
oh dont forget the garrotes with the buff
Outlaw is a high apm spec that is reliant on reacting to procs
with a weeb name like kawai do you even play rogue in keys?
Yeah its so hard to hear a soun that your bte reset
and just press it
what a reaction
wow btw gave me all my cp back press again
I can't tell if you are genuinely stupid or you are putting on an axt
Comparatively high apm*
And I can't tell which is dumber
IT'S THE HIGHEST IN THE GAME NEXT TO LIKE FURY
What are we talking about
dont forget ret apm
Yeah and the game itself isnt high apm
and hance up there too just a little behind

lol playing ddr and pressing your rotation is what this game iss see if you can ddodge 3 dirfferent swirlies on the ground and kick and cc something
Never mind fury is a beta class
Knowing all the conditions on outlaw when to roll esp when u play kir 1fan build when to spend your fan stacks is hard but spending cp is just btw more often than not
Only reason colossus is lower is because itās a channel 
Ya lol
This is just rage bait I CBA
Pwar is fun as fuck tho
I'd say 1 apm average is pretty high
given most mmos have hard GCDs
High Apm= low iq
Fuck me
they fucked it up this season pick between ignorre pain/shield slam and revenge wand you dont have rage gg fun game
1 button press per second is pretty fast in mmo terms
Depends on how you actually look at the situation I guess. Korean mmos are usually way faster
Iām enjoying it. Think if decision making isnāt an option the class is super brain dead
outside of lost ark
which ones
Bdo for example
because p sure they have 1s GCDs
My issue is that Pwar has no niche. Well the niche is damage but it got GIGA dicked
non-tab-target mmo's can go faster
Yes sir
im pretty sure eso's combat is faster than 1aps
Probably, if the A stands for Action combat in that case. Tho its still an mmo
since you have to click for every auto attack between spell casts
yyeah but its just idk i pug most keys so i heroic throw a pack to get them to group and morst pugs just start hammering the new adds before i even have time to thunderclap and revenge lol aggroe on war is weird with the rage starvation its pick defensives or threat management
yeah but ARPGs vs RPGs have very different standards ya know?
ARPGs by design are more interactive
Yeah for sure. Iāve had a few oops threat moments
Busted
Oh sorry that my class is capped and my dps is like āpull more pleaseā
Fwiw that just happened to me in a 14 last night 
target cap deez nuts
He likes to press taunt and then run from the mob he taunted too
So when you hit it, it claps you
he's gonna harp target cap for the rest of his wow career
dog I tricks him on CD
yea im looking at an old ESO vid of mine and i was clicking for autos at 1 auto per second plus spells, so eso combat is def around 1.8-2 aps
wait how do ppl even pull threat with rogue????
Do we ever have to really think about reapplying poisons in a fight? Or is it just totally passive?
yyeah i mean it was a pull of a bunch of shitter mobs, you want me to dm something that dies in 4 seconds or what

tank on honk shoo mode
only way

I taunted the big guy at the bottom of the stairs
when your tank likes to make the excuse that he's target capped, and social aggros a mob and runs away usually
Because my rogue didnāt blind chain mobs 
which rogue
Either
nah don't put that evil on me chief
also my blind was on cd and so was tricks i just overlapped with something else
we were in the courtyard

You werenāt in that key
rofl rogues complaing about dieing to threat pulling are bad
just vanish
easy game
or blind or kydney idk lol
that entire key was a bit of an xd
True
never again
but yhes war has threat issues gotta wait for 5 sunders
Arent the majority of arpgs pretty slow? Im quite positive they are mostly story driven with short fights
when an assa rogue is top dps on a boss
or at least 2 thunderclaps lmao
it's rough
no
^
lol
you're thinking of souls games I think Davyn
You make me sweat
ARPGs are traditionally thought of as diablo, diablo 2, poe, d4, last epoch, torchlight, grim dawn, etc
action rpg != arpg
Ah alright, I had those Anime Story games in mind
even though the a in arpg stands for action
those are jrpgs
"arpg" means specifically diablo-likes
Aaaaaah ye
so cant they just give assa top boss dmg while taking its aoe talents? i mean our aoe stops are not as good as war ret or dk
and we are way squishier
diablo likes...
idc what ppl say i feint on aoe dam and use evaision and cloak on cd for most mechanics are healer sjust not aware? or its jut a problem
definitely a very meme worthy tweet
but in a parallel universe arpgs are definitely called diablolikes
say what you want about modern diablo, but it did define the genre in the past
reaper of souls was D3's arch
havent played D4 some ppl like it ...POE like games lol
Eternium is fun for tablet or on your phone lol
D4 good 
Itās just season of witchcraft again yeh
No not current, upcoming
PoE2 let me down
The whole dungeon exclamation
i dont want souls like mechanics in my arpg
They nerfed everything into the ground in POE2 i want to blow the fuckin maps up and clear screens not dodge roll and kill 1-2 packs at a time lol
Poe 2/10
So much this
Just play last epoch
It's the best arpg currently imo
Last epoch was decent quick grind tho
Poe 2 leap slam
its loot filter system is amazing
Might be the most hilarious shit Iāve ever seen
Bro has like a 35 foot vertical or something
Takes 3-5 business days to land
I played falcon bleed build. Their pet system was very good imo
Whos falcon
lol i wanted to play a warrior but they sucked armor scaling was dog shit so i just went Pconc and 2 shot everything
oh L.Epoch
The stupid rat from smash

so just like wow very often?
FALCONNNNN PUNCH
I will never get falcon punch out of my head today God damnit
Rat
Last epoch is hands down probably the best arpg or diablo like game right now and the loot filtering system and craft mechanics are nice
I liked Grim Dawn but it kinda aged quickly
Even tho the end game is rather short compared to others its way better then POE or Diablo imo
Waystones in Poe 2 felt so bad
i played last epoch for like 2 hours on launch
or tried to, servers were fucking insanely shit
i should probably give it another try
Is "Lingering Darkness" in the DS tree bugged? No matter if i clear Deathmark by attacking or letting the debuff just fall off after 30 seconds, I never get the LD buff.
You really shouldn't
the worst but remember its still just beta lol im excited to see ho the huntress and druids play out
brother i play wow, my standards for a game are incredibly low
Deathmark is a 2 minute cooldown
Honestly there is too many good games and not really enough time
You still shouldn't
On God
lingering darkness is after deathmark, the 2m cd; not deathstalker mark
Smh i can't read... back to school lol
Itās a classic
100%
@balmy condor you slacker where is the pin for the best belt???
have they fixed the thing they're definitely going to fix yet
we are reclearing stix and i want to ask what talents do we get? do we go the CT one ? or without CT?
should have named it fatebound mark
real
FATEBINDERS MARK
Hey guys, with the titan disc belt going live mid June, is worth to craft a belt with the next week's Spark ? Is the titan belt better right from the release ?
Probably
So skip the craft, kk
Titan belt will be OP just like the old ring
Hadn't simmed it, but can a crafted 681 ring surpass island ring ?
(talking dungeons, other ring is hero gallywix)
!tott
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
For.me 681 ring simmed worse
And 671 jastor was dps.incr3ase
wrong. its 2.000.000 steps forward and 1.000.000 to 4.000.000 steps backward
i dont think d4 does small numbers, does it?
Every PTR we very quickly find a setup that integer overflows

had that happen once in Elin. it bricked my save with no way to recover it. was not amused.
Idk, d4 ptr is about as valuable as a hand full of shit
Cause you get on the PTR, realize thereās an interaction thatās like 27,000% stronger
tfw your save corrupts when your spend so much time travelling that the "days played" overflows the integer and ruins 400+ hours of progress.
And the rest of it is basically just the last seasons build but bugged
And then you
some set getting buffed
to the point where it just outscaled everything else by multiple orders of magnitude
Yeah except they donāt have sets in d4, the d4 way is release a new unique

But they are hilariously bad at it
Earthquake Barb was the Barb build since like season 6
And then in the season 8 livestream they were like āwe want to focus on barbs physicality, no more earthquake everythingā
Nerfed the shit out of earthquake, added a new unique, reworked an old one

And itās not close
They like quadrupled the damage of whirlwind build
But whirlwind builds still just play earthquake
Finally timed a 15
sloppy toppy toppin dmg as assa
usually just plow through as outlaw lol
i mean assa boss dmg aint bad
barely got beat by fury warrio in bos damn and i gapped the warrior and well boomkin just sucks in top
I aināt done no 15s yet but Iām usually top overall
yeah welcome to playing asssa rogue well lol
Furry warrio capped bad aoe but good good boss dam
anyone got some class-specific boss guides?
i think the meta comp is funny becaue if you remove the mage the dk and boomkin would never kill a aboss
Yea they did war and outlaw dirty early In the expansion
Did a 12 with a 650 prot war though
Legendary
erm actually
I want to craft gloves or chest so bad tired of looking at heroic pieces...but ill wait until tomorrow 679 ilvl getting mythic signet tomorrow thats 680 ilvl if i get a good vault piece thats 681 ilvl and then crafted is 682
if your in a group not a pug 660 -665 smashes on 12s lol
vaults tomorrow eh and then our second dinar piece
im getting my hoc tuah
i bout like 6 fuckin heroic jasotrs i regret it on some of the toons
simms are wild btw
every time i sim single target it tells me to take a haste/vers crafted ring over circe
and then on dungeon slice its every other time i sim it tellse me to take my outlaw crafted ring over circe
circe is almost never the picked ring for sims
i guess whats the differenece in 20k and 25k mastery when i can add like 4k verse and haste
yeah and also diminishing returns
and relative value
you gain more power relatively speaking going from low amount of haste and vers even though they might be weighted slightly lower
yeah reaching the drs or whateva
than dropping an equal amount of mastery which you've already had enough of
im not using crafted offhand wep either
it was legit 10k less dmg to just run double rik mythic daggers
and i said more main stat more vers and more mastery
well at one point, if you've had enough mastery even without the diminishing returns, a point of versatility will give you more damage than a point of mastery, relatively speaking
opening upmore crit or vers or elemental focusing on other crafted pieces
yeah thats whats happening
the meters dont lie lol
also i like some versa dont get one shot as much...i can tell in 16&17 keys just from these 15s if i forget to feint an aoe mech and just try and rely on heals im gonna fuckin die
the pvp boss in top when he leaps in middle with no feint its 80% of my health
good thing we have a 40% aoe wall on a 15 sec cooldown
^^^^
i wish it would stack
press it twice and get 80%
i like a month ago would try and save evasion or cloak for oopsie buttons or just to avoid dmg
but now they are apart of the rotations but in pugs its tough to not know when ppl will use externals which i just assume they wont lol
hey, can u evasion mugzee's spinny guns? does any1 know, or just dmg redu?
Walk through him it donāt hurt
physical side you can evasion, yes
getting on the other side, making space for others, less lightning
without running thru with evasion
Hey guys, looking to pick up assassination rogue as another character as I liked the sound of it. Though, is it as micro managey as the wowhead guide makes it out to be? Or is it relatively easy to track things?
I feel alot of people just evasion in case they accidentally stand on a bomb spawn swirlie
yes
It is as wowhead guide says yes
But tracking things is easy with a good wa / platers
Here:
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
I use a good plater profile and UI's etc. But it's more of the actually having to micro manage all the buffs debuffs etc
I just made it very in depth
I'm looking to push 15-18 keys, so, ideally want to be as high performance as I can get
realistically if you can juggle 3-5 bleeds, hit a couple cooldowns at the same time, and spam envenom
then you're good
the best platers in my oppion for assa only is whsypyrs. then try vespereal, and jundies platers
That's the thing. The 3-5 bleeds is ever so slightly off putting. It's why I disliked Affliction lock. Managing that many debuffs just isn't my idea of fun. Maybe ass rogue isn't for me then!
quazi's platers are filled with too much
Thanks for the explanation mister wowhead guide writer Whispyr
idk I haven't used elvui in like 4 years
All I know is
the number of times i hear plater users
complain about lag
or something bricks

I mean big debuffs addon and tell me when can baically make palters non usefull but then you ahve to learn and track all the different mob types its a tradeoff right?
other than on ovinax last tier ive never had any issue with plater
platers are a god send
I heard complaints on tindral
or what was that other old one tidyplates?
and really that was blizzards fault for thinking spawning 40 shitters is good gameplay

i've had the same unitframes from elv since legion
0 issues

I should remove amp poison from my display though
shit is useless to know
blizzard implementing move anything and keybind mode is great no more dominoes or bartender
only took them 15 years to add that shit
listen bro you wanna use native ui you better enjoy the RP that comes with it
wow is for everyone!
Honestly the main reason i used bartender/dominos
was the actionbars on the side was just so annoying
Why can't i put them on top of the other ones
I play alt-Z in first person for true immersion
sheesh you guys play wow hardcore too rich for my blood
i hope your camera spins with the characters PoV everytime you use feint or FoK
otherwhise its no real immersion
Yeah I just changed the code on that weakaura
If my flask of alchemical chaos picks crit then I open and seaforium boosts my crit such that my crist is higher than my mastery will signet give me crit?
i think if you folllow sims you wont have this issue

Idk i can always go maghar
been sitting on a faction change since s1 sale
Although stoneform is so nice to have.
.
then yes
depends what you use first
I mean it matters because whatever order they get cast in gets calculated
when they trigger, they check what stats
since maghar is one of the two highest secondary stats you can still be unlucky 
which order does two ogcds get cast in with a macro
Yeah so you'd want to put priory first
is it just whichever is listed first
though rolling crit on use seems kinda meh?
i would put whispyr first
% increases usually are

green orcs have always fallen off with every tier since their values are flat
if they're both off gcd it could get fucked by networking
does bait and switch stack with elusivness?
i mean my crit is like not even remotely close enough to mastery to have to worry
it'll probably be nerfed though
i might buy hoc next week just to play sub
otherwise its just a second jastors and eye bc why not
which is a very, uninvolved fight for rogue
i watched like 3 povs
mf is just chasing boss
entire time
yes, all auras are multipliers
dont know what you mean, very chill boss 
i am so ready
Okay rank 2 fb logs
ready to jump ship
this tier every boss had adds so next tier no boss will have adds
and fatebound will shine
Surely
Coming for rank 3
fatebound feels like shit
It feels like shit cause you can miss so bad
Also if you get lucky coin and get back to 7 you donāt get rewarded beyond that. Like it hit a 14 stack yesterday but what is the point
I donāt even get the capstone extra damage for getting to 7 a second time on the same face
Deal fate 5 combo points from double muti crit feels amazing tho
Hey guys, in big packs. whats the best way to spread bleeds? is it just from the mob with DM or should i be tabbing to other mobs to spread more? (sorry if this has been asked a million times)
Do we target swap for myth Bandit adds or cleave from Boss?
cleave
Never swap
boss unless prog heavy requires you too
and even then
gm is trolling u
tyty all
How important is off hand daggerās ilevel?
Not at all
Least important slot
shirt ilvl less important but otherwise yeah
rupture adds, stay on boss
debatable
Nah. Need epic shirt
there are only two acceptable shirts and neither are epic
talking about outside of ic window?
i will ty
!carnage
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
On mythic gallywix. Does the frontal target anyone?
For the standard full ST-Specc (Fatebound): Snould I always get Fateful Ending after the opener? And, if not, I did something wrong or is it more or less luck?
it's a 50/50
you need the envenom before deathmark to extend the chain
if it doesn't, you don't get the capstone
got it, thanks (as always!)
Gallywix down!!!!!
ty
congrats :>
Any1 got dc'ed?
yes. EU is dead
yes dc and cant log back in
lulw
smol indie
Game down time to yap?
yes
Always
the beauty of assa is you have plenty of time to yap even while playing
Studying for an exam is making me question my life choices. I hated highschool, why did i think uni was a good idea...
real
holy shit
i cant believ ei spent the entirety of last season playing shadow priest and not knowing i had to recast shadow crash every 20s to refresh dots on aoe pulls
no wonder my aoe damage was so shit

i am actually inting
no wonder my single target was beastmode and when it came to mythics and aoe i was dogshit
LOL
last night i literally tripled my dps in one simple move
whats funnier is nobody in the priest discord could tell me that
and none of my friends knew either until it took another irl friend playing priest and trying shadow for like 2 dungeons
then watching me play shadow
"wheres your shadow crash on details???"
to be fair they probably didnt expect anyone to just not be using shadow crash

i was under the impression your usual shadow rotation refreshes dots
and it does
but only on your main target
erm the spriest i just did a 12 with barely cast it
so every other dot lapses
LOL
tell him to cast shadowcrash on cd
it should always be on cd and being used
Any expected buffs to sin it feels a lil lackluster compared to the other specs on farm.
the shadow crash itself doesnt do much damage tho
its just to apply all dots to all targets in the area
me but without the 3hours part
they were not blowing my mind
its only a 20second cooldown
it should be more than that
i was doing about 3-3.5mil overall in dungeons at 650ilvl
this guy was 676
thats
fuckin diabolical
surely the scaling from 650 to 670 means he should be like 4.5mil
also thats an epic name
goblin lawnmower
ty
Shadow is not great in keys
it was my gally name
For what itās worth
guys tomorrow ill be spending my dinar on a downgrade
so i dont have to press my magnet anymore
ty
i dont know what to spend my dinar on
smh
i got a house of cards heroic in my vault
magnet owns
and i bought the hero jastor diamond
im getting mythic jastor for sure
i aint clearing mythic raid boss so i have nothing to use it for
heroic eye of kezan is probably not as good as mythic seaforium
so its a dead draw
i got the mythic jastor already
i bought signet first
mhm thats what im gettin hero
look at this nerd with his mythic jastor
herp
jk im jealous
i guess pacemaker would be my final purchase but its a downgrade
So im running Deathstalker ST build this is my break down for 5 minutes on a dummy is my damage distribution here correct or incorrect in areas?
yeah looks about right
Oh hey Whispyr! š
hiya

quite annoyed atm cause the build im setting up for poe1 atm looks pissugly but I can't find a better way to path the tree 
I dont know what i am missing, but i am simming droptimizer ST and i have 636 belt and wrist(crafted from previous season) and belt should overall give more stats if i craft to 681 but on sim it gives less damage than upgrading wrist to 681? 
link the sim
1mil throughout an entire overall dungeon
Path of Exile one?
think i see the issue my bad
it doesnt take the nerubian thing over?
its only a downgrade if you are a min maxer
yah it doesn't copy embellishments
yes
ahh ok
if you play above a minimum effort and become at least a mid maxer its an upgrade
Nice kind of build you going for
making a molten strike of the zenith chieftain for a friend
sim it
im kinda lost tho, do you guys think its worth just ugprading all my crafted pieces from previous season to 681? not going to be able to raid mythic so those 681 items look very nice :D
sparka kinda exist for that
make the 2 embelishment items->use sparks to fill slots
is your mythic dagger in your offhand? @trail scarab
according to that droptimizer link it is
oh dope sounds like it slaps
Belt is gonna be here in three weeks Iād craft that last
ooh right
im just superduper late to the party 





