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Make friends
cant play the game on the class i enjoy
Never wait in queue again 
do you have a guild
i did but they are literally playing hots
this is going to be a long ass season
How many 15 you got timed?
my guild is already split into A: minecraft playthrough, B: CSGO
Damn that’s usually when I start to get accepted
eh
i have a good team but they wont play atm
also been playing the no garrote build just too good
Don’t tell the others, they going to yell at you that it should only be played in 19’s
lmfao

p sure uc an play it in any key level, as long as u execute it
Yeah imagine voluntarily accepting to do tank dam in single target
I mean youre not doing tank damage though

Or well, you shouldnt be
Ye exactly
p sure thats what my bleed build sims
No lmao
oh well
executing bleed build in keys is annoying, for me, personally
so ill stick to this one

Also firm believer that comp matter
Play with a boomy and a dk sometime we don’t need more mass aoe
Dk friend don’t know how do ST
yup
i did 360m on ipa and my hunt did like 220m lmao
Shindig TOP vod he doing 4m overall on Kultharok straight funneling off the adds
One button macro coming soon brother, down from 5 
!wa
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Hell yeah bro blasting, ez in time, always invite rogue 
Now time to not get accepted to 16s
what im sayin
its not a castle, its a monastery
🤓
first boss with fatebound > no lucky coin at all
great start
You're meant to be getting top parses so we can mislead people intro trying fatebound
Pls fix your luck
Thanks
Next boss the coins will behave for sure
dont you feel the HEROIC FANTASY of flipping coins????
i got lucky coin in first cds on bandit!
ez
ok timed a 16 mechagoon 1st try 
forsen
gz
how long did you fall asleep on the endboss
when did you personally switch from cheat death to elusiveness? playing 14/15 right now and debating about it
havent ever thought i needed cheat
why is my weakaura so borked.. :/
Changing load conditions on whispyrs wa just borks it somehow for me, and i cant revert it other than just newly importing it?!
Cd is like, it procs once to some mechanic and then u wont have it for 2nd time that mechanics kills u
elu gives u more defensivness
hope i explained it well
just gotta get it a habit to use feint on mechanics since its p low cd
my cd usage in the 16 mechagoon
It’s Whispyr’s way of marking you as an Outlaw player
all good, i already use it and know how it works, ty wither way tho. Just were wondering because i often had read that people only switch for the higher keys.
gud
All I do is set to load only on assa rogue and it breaks it, removing the checkmark then completely breaks it
because you're setting the load condition on the whole WA group, including outlaw WAs
so everything loads when you're assa
anyone have a good tricks of the trade macro?
!tott
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
legend
@final star
how/where do i set it up then to only load when im specced assa :s
fatebound on gally 
Too strong. Needs nerfs
What I do
Idk this guy asked about you
@potent raven what I do
Thinks you’re the goat

I've been seeing some fatebound rogues. Is that a thing now?
No
Didn't think so lol
yes
Herp is a noted fatebound enjoyer
How is it comparing?
It is useless on any non-ST boss
So it does well on st but not as aoe I'm gathering
Herp also infamous gaslighter smh
He said he wouldn't ever gaslight me and it's just me being paranoid
all around me
ARE WE IN THE SAMEW RAIDTEAM
we literally just had a 0,5% wipe

1,1%
finally fixed my stix log
Just wait for our keys later
from 3,08 to 4,11 
?
me too buddy

Hey guys, I think I saw a command for this info but I can't remember what it was: what's the best settings for simming Assassination for m+?
Dslice
this was me before saj
thanks!
we going crazy with these logs
The dates make it make more sense
oh wait its not sorted by date
yeah
im happy with stix parse being a green
fuck that boss
on the other hand, i need a better OAB and mugzee parse
unfortunatly im on bench duty so the other rogue can get CE
My stix parse is grey because I got brought in for one pull, died and then that was the pull we apparently killed it
Stix prog was great, sit out for 80 pulls, get brought in to fill in a gap for 20 minutes, get the kill

Good boss
i wish that was me
on our reclear i drove over a bomb
because none of the bombs around my marker got hit
i felt vietnam flashbacks of prog frustration
!up
best stix parse
I thought you were boomkin on stix
Show us the boomkin pull count
I almost had to Boomie on stix
Raid leader had me practising Boomie on my druid just in case
Because our main Boomie fucking traumatised me and the RL by spending night 1 on stix in single target build
"why is his add damage above 80% non-existent'
'....oh'
first CE 
Gratz! 
It's fine I never had to in the end
just about to start myth gally prog, any rogue specific tips and tricks?
fatebound pretty fun, sadly i got nuked on sprocket from our mage
97 cauldron log, fatebound meta confirmed
2 pulls before this was gonna be a 200 log 
with deathstalker i wouldve gone easy 100 today on gally, its crazy
7:15 fast as fk
yea i have no idea how im supposed to send my cds
all the kill times are so variable
i guess getting cleave is good but it just didnt work out for me
just to be sure i understand it correctly, the stay above 150e for SB dmg you can do in the bleed spec in st is just gar/rupture/ct on boss, no dn next then chill with high cp and pool energy until refresh dot or dn?
on this pull we wiped just as we went into intermission..
yes, it's the last thing you do basically if there's nothing else happening
thank you
tell me about it
gz
Gz uwucutegirl
tyty
Grats 
grats 
on gallywix, when you immune the 3rd soak with cloak in p2, do you pre immune with cloak or cloak after to clear the heal absorb?
pre
thanks boss 🫡
harder or easier than tier 11 delves?
Definitely easier
every delve boss would solo gallywix with a blindfold on
Rexxar on 8 mask clears gally
I wish it was over for me, still on mugzee 
I think we climbed wr somehow

Guys how are you dealing as Assa with the RIK adds?
What did the tanks do
!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtlety.
in this night alone
we had 11 wipes when the boss was at 30% or lower
cus the tanks fucked up taunts and put the soak 2x into the same group
Incredible
Gratz!

Fwiw that phase actually sucks as a tank - p3 is literally just tank mechanics.fight
there is a difference bettwen a phase sucking
and the tanks just randomly taunting
like, literally random taunts for no reason
They’re watching dbm too hard then
If you don’t cd an ego you get way more stacks
And at like 8 it says “yo taunt fuck boi”
congrats you have your life back now
Just say this pmuch
damn and I was hellbent on trying to kill them and felt bad for not dealing enough dmg
0 days since rik reverb barrel dam brought up
!richard
We actually killed it
thanks for advice
I was struggling so hard on those barrels
Wondering if Stix is the same 😄
!stix
what world rank did your guilds get after killing gally?
Thx Whispyr
im curious how many guilds cleared it
its funny how the gap from mugzee to gally is the smallest than any other boss
damn around 250 more guilds cleared gally since last week
turbo ilvl kicking in
my guild cleared it 11 days ago, 300 more kills sheesh
kinda hate that ngl
too much borrowed power
meanwhile im praying we kill cockensuck or whatever tomorrow
this is prob going to be the tier with the highest CE in history
were still have like 2 more months of this season
its so going to hit 1600 clears
bummer... Race to World Last is going to be sad this tier
don't see the issue with more people getting CE
more people clearing it is actually a good thing
It means more players are raiding mythic, less guilds are disbanding, etc
im an elitist that has the unpopular opinion that in a game with 4 raid difficulties, the hardest difficulty should be hard 
mythic raiding is already kinda hard to get into just for the lockout system and the forced 20 man requirement
The hard part about mythic (in a macro PoV) is gathering 20 players that all have good time schedules to be available for 2/3 days raiding per week
But why

Hall of Fame is pretty hard
It's a nice break after nerubar palace difficulty
thats why lfr, normal and heroic exist for
I don't understand those elitist thoughts, sorry
its not
thats why i said its an unpopular opinion
Maybe that's why PvP is in a shit state all around
i know im in the minority
i liked nerubar palace though 😦
I liked it but a 2nd tier in a row of that difficulty would cause burnout I think
I prefer this tier on how the pull count is more spaced out between bosses
nah im more burned out by this tier by how shit the bosses are
And you dont run into 300 pulls into court then another 250 into queen
i dont think i like more than 2 bosses in the raid
Its not even unpopular its straight up alien
Bro is not from this planet with that kind of take
He is from mars
Some ppl at higher rank guilds share the sentiment that this raid is too easy
I knew you were a freak
a freak in the sheets
But I'm having more fun this tier
I think the bosses this tier are a pretty fair balance of hard and easy
Except stix
Stix is cancer as hell
I don't mind the raid being easier this late into the season, before the nerfs, turbo boost, and dinars the raid was a good difficulty
Ye
I also have the unpopular opinion that the raid rep buff shouldnt apply to healing since it makes raid healing more boring as the season goes on imo
But its prolly good for people still progging ig
I think it's wack that it double dips on healers that heal from their damage like Disc and MW
all my healers agree, my guild is literally benching healers so they can get healing logs
Im just aotc but I like the challenge
I dont like the concept of just having to drop more healers to actually be challenged as a whole
But I just heal at the start of the season and when it gets too easy I just dps swap
at what key level do u guys think you should change to hybrid and then onto forced induction builds?

I'm not a fan of the ilvl bump ngl
kind of distorted progression across raid and keys
ilvl bump would be fine, if content didint get nerfed and we didint get corruptions
ilvl bump is whatever, helps people who are somehow still progging
but we got all 3
But they also chose to nerf stuff too
So its a double whammy of making shit easier
Doesnt bother me much tho
srs question how do i explain raid lead that assa is not good to go in cages on mug zee?
Im used to being in guilds that will probably get a dps increase from using the one button rotation being added 
I just wonder how insane stats are going to get next season, assuming they will do the usual ilvl bump
and why is it not?
!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtlety.
Can cleave the goons from mugzee while outside of the gaols
Also get the belt
send them the Rik copypasta but for jails
ive not touched a delve once this season, i aint doing that shit
(im going to delve...)
I got my Delvers journey done and now I'm just doing 3 11s a week for gilded instead of m+
I just did 30 keys the week the ilvl bump dropped and now im capped
Ilvl boost was great for me, had enough lower crests to get 440 gilded so barely had to do m+ 
i did 47 keys the wednesday turbo week came out...
hated life
told him this he said you have good single target....
Send him the copy pasta
Just tell him we're shit at target swapping but ye, ain't the worst thing
Sin is shit at target swapping
And if he still doesnt get it
Your raid lead is dumb as fuck
Unlucky
dont we even do more dmg with caustic than target swapping?
do 2 pulls 1 going in goal another not, and show the log of what dmg ur doing
By the time you get bleeds up and amplifying poison stacks they probs half dead or more
@balmy condor my fatebound log is better than your normal log
i challenge you to play fatebound next raid on gally

got it in bookmarks
Are there any helpful WA for Stix?
for the whole raid
messing a bit with bombshells
i think liq
ok
if you rolling it puts a stop sign on bombshells to see em easier if you dont have it
Pro tip: drive into bomb shells so healers can parse
Thats what i did and my MW got a 98parse
On myth that's a swift death lol
very true, fuck stix
Remember to not press defensives so your healers can parse
Pressing feint is a dps loss sorry mr raidlead can’t do it
i did this
and my mw got a rank 1 parse

Did he bug abuse or
🐛
@winged sun almost timed 18 flood with hybrid ome look at this terrible deeps

hunter died on last boss, we had like
3 minutes couldve easily done it but he got stunned and then got the zap too lmao
idk
ah this was 18 resi but
i think our deplete was due to outlaw rng
me when i get hostaged into 18 keys
Do u still need to swap to sub for rookery
you mean dfc?
idk i could remove SD for something else, does nothing in these keys, im just trolling
!richard
It buffs all your Bleeds which still did a lot of dmg in this key by 15%. Not sure if there is a talent point which you can take that give more value for skipping it or am i wrong?
Ye the passive bleed damage is more impactful than the execute
So in your linked log the 15% bleed damage is doing like 6% of your damage since ~40% of your damage is from bleeds
So theres not really anything else thats giving you more than 8% damage
Now i wonder. Does Sudden Demise higher the dmg of Singular Focus because your bleeds to more?
Singular focus is based on the damage the bleed does yes
So if you do more damage with the bleed, singular does more
Unfortunately the demise proc itself does not work with singular focus
Unfortunately singular focus is barely good
Its slightly overrated
Its quite good in big packs tho
Wait? The calculation does not care about the boost of the same talent?
Ah ok was completly confused 😄
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
From all the keys i did, the most thing that allowed me to do the highest funnel was rupture on 5 targets and deathmark, out of deathmark ur basically doing normal dmg to ur main mob on average if ur manually refreshing rupture that is
So half the time ur funnel isn’t all that amazing
Its quite mid
You need to move ur cds around to get the most out of it
And make sin be as viable as arcane
Im sure it seems like alot of you good rogues out there are doing crazy funnel all the time but thats just because ur grp sucks at dpsing
Its important to use ur cds wisely for rly good funnel
Bleed build by far has the shittiest funnel of all time
Might aswell call it the no funnel build

Maybe i do? 
Nah
I play if we even find time with dh resto druid enh sp and assa. But we also dont play keys where that is a problem ^^
Outlaw byfar has the worst dmg profile out of all the good classes in the game
I thought Outlaw was flat
Is simply not having outlaw an option then
hello
well
I mean sure its worse but its still really solid during cooldowns
hello
its not bad bad its just not good
Like the chinese cinderbrew log with bleed he is doing ~8% or so less than a log of yours on the first muscle 
well a big pull like that i'd expect bleed to do the same tbh
if not more maybe
bleed is good on that pull since u have 3 musccles
u can just bleed 3 of them and gain alot of dmg through execute
but it wont work anyways, poison is king in those kind of keys
https://open.spotify.com/track/6CLv2AVvpRC6u84L6e79OS?si=ca9efd57784f4064 aint no way, its on spotify
would've loved it if assa didnt rely on mark dmg
that shit depletes keys easily
cringe
same with ambush not applying spatter i think that should be a feature
instead of needing poison and bleeds up
How so
The bug that causes marks to just vanish or not be applied?
if u die with darkest night its gg
no class in the game relies on something like this
at all
If only fatebound wasnt ass
I mean outlaw dying right after casting AR is kinda similarly cursed no
@hidden bay
i'd say sin is more cursed
How can I check the Assassin Rogue's Simc Vis?
simc what
sorry bis
Can I check the bis all items?
Droptimizer?
You can but i wouldnt recommend doing it because its not really providing you with any useful information
Simming yourself is way more accurate
bis isn't a thing, there's too many items that make too many combinations which are all equal
Just topgear
i got it

But Whispyr of Wowhead said Fatebound bad in aoe
Why do top dam
wacky tony always trying to shitstir the discourse
Lies wowhead says otherwise, it has a bis list.
Checkmate wowhead guide writer

Next tier list you just need to find items where the first letters spell 'sim yourself'
It'd be funny as fuck
Hey whispyr while you are here
FATEBOUND TOPPING THE METERS???
HEROTALENT BROKEN???
DONT LET BLIZZARD SEE
TRASHING OTHER CLASSES?
WATCH US GETTING NERFED
FLIPPING COINS SO WE CAN FLIP THE META 
I think whispyr should make the next season bis list be the worst item in each slot instead for memes
And see how many normies fall for it
put crafted int dagger as bis and watch the world burn
Siphoning stiletto for more believability
tbh it's pretty comfy playing without mark
target swapping like a boss
ST is a little better too
New super high key fatebound build let's go
@winged sun play fatebound in +20 thx
Fatebound 命运的束缚 Cosmos chosen 宇宙选择 Need luck from snow people 需要雪人的运气
And then watch as 20 people a day ask "what key level do I swap to fatebound"
I tried to keep to the spirit of the boomie one
and glide too how about that
🤌
we hit a 14 flip in there btw
easier to ask whispyr whats the daily head enchant meta than 12 flips no?
Whats a flip
A thing you can do with coins
Whats that got to do with the best head enchant?
Nothing, its related to fatebound
What the flip man?
If only fatebound was actually good at something
at least some other classes their hero trees have different damage profiles/talents
Huh
It can't be parried anymore if i remember correctly.
it just didnt go into effect
CORRECT
guard captain suleyman got tired of me killing his ass
Do you have a log
naur i dont log
mmm
it was a depleto anyway
Best I can do is speculate then
yeah me too
details showed
Do you use mouseover
hell ma
!wa
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LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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anyone know if this breakdown for overall in darkflame looks correct? i feel like i should be doing more dmg with bleed build
Pne question guys
Can you show the full details window
At pools? Do u change you target to apply bleeds? With the bleed build ofc
I want to say singular focus should be higher and so should hunt them down but not entirely sure
I mean, when u put bleeds and uses mutilate it applys bleeds to targets but, what is the cap?
Shoul i tab and use bleeds o other target, at least at opener?
Bleed build should be running IC so easy way to spread bleeds that way
Sorry what is IC
indiscriminate carnage talent
Oh ok yeah i use it
For a bit after unstealthing your Garrote and rupture apply to 2 nearby enemies
also, i use mousover macros to apply bleeds to other targets
when not in that IC window ofc
If its 5 targets, you should apply bleeds to everything focussing just one target
More than 5 and you will need to bleed different targets, i use mouseovers for that
I find it helpful
/use [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Rupture```
If the target will survive for more than 10 seconds
Mouseover is amazing in raid for rupture sniping tho
Was good on stix prog
If you mouseover an enemy you will target them, otherwise if you dont have a mouseover youll target your target
Thx dude
Nw!
assuming they're playing bleed build like they said, that's not accurate (thing i was replying to vanished)
there's just no difference between these embellishments this really sucks
What sucks exactly?
embellishments
Yeah they’re pretty unimportant
Kinda neat that it’s hard to make a wrong choice though
Basically everything this expansion is just “idk just wear something who cares it’s all the same”
peak game design
!bug
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
i think they took some complaints about being "forced" to craft embellishments very seriously
What are the alternatives though? One thing is head and shoulders above the rest? Dumb, you just take one thing there’s no choice. Best option for aoe and best option for ST? Dumb, now I have to get two gear sets if I want to optimise for both
Like what’s the ideal situation here?
Or do we just want it to matter so we can be rewarded for being high-info gamers
anyone else having thistle tea randomly get cast?
Are u hitting the energy threshold
thats dumb as fuck
Literally, it allows you to be dumb 😎
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Real ones remember lariat times

i lovede sporecloak, it was a choice
to take huge defensive value over minor offensive
i actually thought that was a good idea, although it was too good
choice in an RPG is crazy
they didn't need to nerf it to uselessness though rip
The sporecloak was a scheme to see how degen people would get for dam
And the results show that a disturbing amount of people would take a stamina loss for ~1%
are you thinking sarkareth cloak?
Even tho sporecloak was of similar offensive value with not even comparible defense power
that was sark cloak
Yes i am indeed referring to the sark cloak

sporecloak was the one that gave you a big shield
Yes
zero offensive value
It had a vers component to it
it had enough vers at first that for many specs it was still the highest dps option
or very close to it
Its not zero but its pretty low
Well yea but why would you ignore the stats it gives
Thats stupid
It had an effect that you got vers above 70% health
i totally forgot that bit
Not zero but not really significant
The sark cloak was very slightly better but the defensive value lost is out of the questionably not worth it
But yet you had dumbasses all season wearing it saying it was worth it
Even tho the buff had like 3% uptime in keys
And you could go entire boss fights without it happening
i remember the guidewriters getting upset that they had to list it in their BiS list
because it DID sim highest
gigachads wore sark cloak perma
Yes because it was very slightly more dps than a regular cloak
Like sub 1% levels of slightly
i think most wrote a section saying "yeah but don't use it" lol
stamina is for pansies
And because it was more dam it has to be included
Even tho its shit
Cuz the buff was a super rare proc
With extremely low uptime
High or low rolling the class trinkets were more likely to make or break your parse

My old gm wore it as a tank
Said the stamina wasnt that important for tanks
holy based
Yep
oh i hate that
Really gonna help you not rip from billy the ret who is blasting too early
imagine fiending for hours days even for sub 1% gains to help you maintain aggro
Yeppers
Sounds like this season
when you can increase you damage output to keep threat by spending 30mins on a dummy to learn your rotation
there was
a time here in outlaw chat
wher epeople we're shilling max level cheatdeath trinket from mega dungeon
and it was a sub 1% gain cause stats
People will do crazy shit for sub 1%
On a near weekly basis we have to talk about evoker dps who refuse to take source and potent mana (mana gain and 3% healing and dam for a healer) over a talent that is literally 0.8% increase
People are dumb as fuck
theyre vdh tanks needed it cause they needed double cheat death
cause vdh was squishy
even tho cheat death talent for vdh at the time came at a steep 30% dps and defensive loss
but no its needed
Yeh
People just make up whatever mess makes them feel better
Results in a lot of misinformation
That same gm i mentioned also refused to take sigil of silence
He took fel dev healing
Because “the silence isnt that important, i would rather the extra healing”
ah yes
the .2% extra hjealing while your in your strongest defensively
very useful
Yup
I mean when has hp been a relevant point for tanks
You either get your entire health deleted by a swing you didnt mitigate
or you mitigate live and get topped next global
How does double atrophic poisen work? (From two different rogues)
Does is stack?
And if so, does it additive or multiplicative?
yes it stacks and it's multiplicative
Thx ❤️
What's the crossover between rogue players and Poe players?
Seems like rogue players would be playing Poe for sure
ill be a bit burnt out from elden ring by then which is good
great game, a bit too easy, gameplay is fun
quite a bit
guys i have an extra spark and mayb i can craft something for dungeons but idk, any ideas? ring sims worse for mythic and raid
Does a droptimiser say anything is an upgrade? If so, craft, if not, don't
any minmax diff in using hoc over priory? or do i just send hoc with dm or whatever
are you trying to craft mastery on ring?
ye mast + crit
looks like you've got a lot of mastery/crit already
humour me and sim a haste/vers ring
after dybgeib yes chef
At equal ilvl they are equal
+.1% with crit/haste ring (bleed build) 
What ilvl were you? Your SIM is insanely low or are you simming no raid buffs?
When doing droptimiser crafting Sims just send every secondary combo
w8 simmed patchwork
Yes that's fine, patchwork 5 mins is standard but if that's with raid buffs that's very low still
no iean just if theres any diff on when hoc should be used in the opener. i dont havt a myth priory uet and will probably be gettig a myth hoc once we kill oab
tbh mate i think you're just swimming in mastery, but also if you unbalance it your priory is gonna pick crit sometimes which makes it worse so its kinda more than the ring at play
but i'd take a 0.1% increase and a boatload of extra stam any day
Oh no you'd use it on death mark just the same
But you'll have to hold 2nd for 30 sec
So don't macro it
(I think you hold anyway, I don't use HoC)
ye
so for the first boss of priory, we want to keep our bleeds on the other officer to generate energy and get the scent of blood buff, right?
absoloodle
they also share hp
or at least damage to the lieutenant counts towards the boss
dungeon slice actually sims ring as .9% worse (tried mast/crit, vers/mast, haste/vers)
Only one socket in the crafted
In both sims
Saw the Dratnos VIdeo, where he discussed this. Like they have 50 different Embelish Items
but you only use 5 or 6

Good morning! How do you guys play bandit mythic? You stay on the boss and put a rupture on the assistant?
They could make things impactful but maybe better for some specs than others or they can make everything 1% trash just put anything on and it’s fine
I thought his point was more “why bother making these fun ones when you only ever take passive stats” but yeah
Idk what the solution is
I think what we have now is the least offensive
Nice lil bonus but doesn’t really matter if you forgot or craft the “wrong” thing
You're missing so many "good" combinations
Haste/crit, haste/mast
Basically yeah
basically never
people might say brew but not even
Well there are/were some HP based skills

I liked the df embellishments more
In terms of strength
They could also keep the crafting system as is and add spec/class specific powers
So basically legendary crafting but with the normal system
Reddit will complain they’re forced to buy tokens just to complete their +6’s
Honestly they will complain about everything
+6? wow look at mister "does content made for the top 0,000000000000000000001%" there
||for all I care the PCs of regular reddit posters should just explode in a mini blast and each newly bought one follows||

That fits really well
Gratz
yioure pog
gz
you should grow an ego and have a superiority complex
what the fuck is your comp
u should feel bad 😠
brewmaster rsham feral arms??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
not a 22 get better
bro playing hardmode
big melee comp
huge gaming
I wish I had that comp
balls
i have the people for that comp, they just needa stop beig cowards
Mystery meat comp
Isnt that just like phys comp with feral instead of mm
well its some variation of monk shaman druid warrior
now if its warrior tank druid heal shaman dps or whatever
its the comp zac wants
and playing off meta is always much harder than playing meta cause you have to actually create your route and strategies, cant just copy
im a big fan of offmeta comp players
Idk im pretty outdated on comps. Someone also said phys is gdruid rsham/disc mm warr sin
I think you’d swap mm for rogue instead of the motw
well its replacing MM with 1 more buff
Same, because I cant ever play meta anyways
Im always rogue, tank and heal are meta slaves, but the other dps are fills
brew/fera/arms/sin/rsham
incredibly based
So sick

Need that in my life
i have a pocket farole
did the AI really have to mention this 😭
Did you ask it to become a friend?
Saboteur or Shadow in general.Its more on the Subtetly side of things
There are otehr games i wanna play to but im out fo time rly and its summer
i wanna exercise,work
Odd to not suggest "assassin" in the Assa channel 🤣
well ye true
i really should go out more
there is assassin as well,just not strong enough
yes you should
but my friends are pussies and dont really go out for activities anymore other than SIT AT A BAR/PUB/WHATEVER
GROW UP
🪤
i really want to play tennissssssssssss im just scared cause ive never played it before
the fact that i dont know anyone that plays it so they teach me
and to play with
i need a boyfriend
Feel you
Turbo boost was quite the hassle even
Currently chilling in CoD if I got spare time
i wanna play poe man but i have to wake up at 5:30 run,come back by 6:30 bath,go for my special vehicle drivers lience practice,ccome back by 8:00,drive at work at 8:15... come back at 16:00.. water my garden..
Its raining quite a bit here luckily, so I atleast dont have to water my garden. 
For me its mostly the usual drill of working 7-16:30-ish, working out ~ 18:30 and then its often GF time, playing some CoD afterwards whenever I dont have anything scheduled
Need those schooldays back
fuck running
erghhhh
take me back
u are insane,ild rather quit my job since i own the place anyway
ill never quit now
ill walk even if i reach 80
exercise makes u happy,full of energy
yeah i go gym
gym 
try running on the country side
gym my ass
go to the garden,plant ur veggies,work
have a balanced diet including everything
no secret for anything
just be normal
No
Most accurate sim for trinkets for dungeons?
Is that mdt sim, dslice, or xtargets over x seconds?
What WA do you guys use to track party members cooldowns?
omnicd, an addon not a wa
omnicd addon
too late..
L
I dont use any
Because who cares 
dslice
aight
anyone manage 8 masks on rogue? Without cds im getting my cheeks spread when 2 elites appear
679 ilevel
Hey, guys i cannot find it in any guide or mb iam blind. Should i always try to stay above 30 energy to save tt? or just send it
Just send
No not really.. too much waiting for cooldowns (evasion+cloak needed for multiple pulls), and vanish not working against most packs...
I gave up
tho cleared all areas individually, but no success in one run since any small mistake would wipe the run
ive done my 8 mask, with the wrong vision tree setup which was dumb, where are you struggling?
i did it in bleed build btw, stayed bleed build for bosses as well
For me atleast, big pack of scarabs right before rexxar
Also entire drag area, since groups randomly pull together (like when i pull first miniboss, i also somehow pull first pack with it 90% of the time)
Those i've struggled with... I also run bleed build
You use silence on garrote?
skip that pack, its fucking deadly
How do you skip it tho?
blind the scarab guys that sees through stealth, then walk past and vanish
Mmm
then kill rexxar, then do the same thing and run back to the drag
Havent tried blinding them, tried vanish which just doesnt work
Does it work with the blind talent that reduced CD etc? (Airborne irritant)
yep, blind the big guy and everything gets blinded
Well, might give it a shot again today then, since i can nuke rexxar with cloak but that pack is just shit...
Now i just need to now have insane aggro range in the drag area
can anyone tldr aoe for me?
ambush > garrote > rupture > ? > ? >
if its 5 mobs do i just keep garrote/rupture spamming til they're all debuffed, then cp for crimson > mutilate > then do the death mark ?
ambush > garrote > rupture > rupture > garrote > garrote > tempest > mutilate
in 5 target that will bleed everything
does the second rupture not care about CP?
if the target rupture cp usage was higher , its like an override system? lower wont affect it?
serrated bone spikes gives you max cp after the first rupture
thank you, and if my garrotes/ruptures start to hit pandemic, is it just simply vanish > reapply?
thats one im not too sure about / might be stuffing up
if i think i need the vanish ill holder and just manually put new ruptures up, otherwise i send the vanish
Keep 5 rupture and crimson tempest and spatter up till they die
Probably at 10-20% left when garrote hits pandemic depends on key lvl ofc
Yea, i normally hold my vanish for chain pulling etc. all depends on situation
heya guys, what do you use as greater runes right now ? Echoing void still bugged right ?
im a gusher 
I ran a sim, void ritual bis for all content for me
Twilight dev
Void Ritual can be hit or miss
Hope they fix echoing void soon
(probably wont)
what is “can be hit”
Getting the stats during your CDs/big pulls is a hit
Getting it on downtime/small pulls is a miss

😭
having a gf is quite normal yet challenging,i sympathize 😉
Definitely is challenging. Especially if they say that you are free to game some hours with your boys, no worries
Dangerous situation

sounds more like ''im gonna kill you in your sleep''
yup

Tho I imagine if you live together at some point its no biggie anyways, might even help to not get on eachothers nerves

talking to woman... hard...
thats not the problem
finding one thats ok with how mental i am is











