#assassination

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maiden sierra
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week 2 i was getting declined for 2 hours for +12 keys

potent raven
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yea its pointless

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pug players gotta reroll to fotm to get into keys

slate crown
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Make friends

potent raven
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cant play the game on the class i enjoy

slate crown
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Never wait in queue again Surebud

coral ibex
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do you have a guild

potent raven
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i did but they are literally playing hots

slate crown
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Make more friends

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that don't play hots

coral ibex
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wait hots still exists

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i thought it got shut down

potent raven
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lmaoo

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they are so bored of wow

maiden sierra
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this is going to be a long ass season

nocturne quail
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How many 15 you got timed?

potent raven
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all besides priory

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o

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i got in

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less go

maiden sierra
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my guild is already split into A: minecraft playthrough, B: CSGO

nocturne quail
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Damn that’s usually when I start to get accepted

potent raven
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eh

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i have a good team but they wont play atm

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also been playing the no garrote build just too good

nocturne quail
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Don’t tell the others, they going to yell at you that it should only be played in 19’s

potent raven
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lmfao

nocturne quail
potent raven
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p sure uc an play it in any key level, as long as u execute it

nocturne quail
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Yeah imagine voluntarily accepting to do tank dam in single target

potent raven
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LOL

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yup

spice surge
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I mean youre not doing tank damage though

potent raven
spice surge
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Or well, you shouldnt be

potent raven
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the st with no garr build is very nice regardless

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better than other builds

nocturne quail
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My prot pal friend do like 1.3 mil ST

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Sometimes

spice surge
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Ye exactly

potent raven
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p sure thats what my bleed build sims

spice surge
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No lmao

potent raven
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oh well

spice surge
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Its like a 200k difference

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Not 800k

potent raven
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executing bleed build in keys is annoying, for me, personally

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so ill stick to this one

nocturne quail
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Also firm believer that comp matter

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Play with a boomy and a dk sometime we don’t need more mass aoe

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Dk friend don’t know how do ST

potent raven
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ikr

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v true

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rogue is basically the magus of melee

nocturne quail
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yup

potent raven
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i did 360m on ipa and my hunt did like 220m lmao

nocturne quail
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Shindig TOP vod he doing 4m overall on Kultharok straight funneling off the adds

autumn idol
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top is just really good for ass

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unless you stay up during xav fight

gentle belfry
potent raven
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lets go

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timed it w/ this overall @nocturne quail

true tapir
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
potent raven
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tbh fucked up 2nd BL when u enter the castle

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lost my mark

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and dotted too much

nocturne quail
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Now time to not get accepted to 16s

potent raven
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what im sayin

royal lantern
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🤓

hidden bay
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first boss with fatebound > no lucky coin at all forsenE great start

red schooner
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Pls fix your luck

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Thanks

hidden bay
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😂 🔫

red schooner
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Next boss the coins will behave for sure

royal lantern
hidden bay
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i got lucky coin in first cds on bandit!

runic hinge
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ez

royal lantern
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how long did you fall asleep on the endboss

potent raven
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havent cuz all mechanics were going on me

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somehow

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was making me nervous

shy axle
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when did you personally switch from cheat death to elusiveness? playing 14/15 right now and debating about it

coral ibex
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havent ever thought i needed cheat

grim arrow
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why is my weakaura so borked.. :/

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Changing load conditions on whispyrs wa just borks it somehow for me, and i cant revert it other than just newly importing it?!

potent raven
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elu gives u more defensivness

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hope i explained it well

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just gotta get it a habit to use feint on mechanics since its p low cd

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my cd usage in the 16 mechagoon

cerulean walrus
shy axle
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all good, i already use it and know how it works, ty wither way tho. Just were wondering because i often had read that people only switch for the higher keys.

potent raven
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gud

grim arrow
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All I do is set to load only on assa rogue and it breaks it, removing the checkmark then completely breaks it

vagrant brook
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because you're setting the load condition on the whole WA group, including outlaw WAs

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so everything loads when you're assa

potent raven
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there was a guy

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kieron or something

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does he still play

stable smelt
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anyone have a good tricks of the trade macro?

normal mist
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!tott

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
stable smelt
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legend

runic hinge
grim arrow
hidden bay
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fatebound on gally Poggers

runic hinge
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Too strong. Needs nerfs

final star
runic hinge
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Idk this guy asked about you

final star
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@potent raven what I do

runic hinge
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Thinks you’re the goat

final star
timid haven
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I've been seeing some fatebound rogues. Is that a thing now?

spice spire
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No

timid haven
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Didn't think so lol

hidden bay
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yes

red schooner
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Herp is a noted fatebound enjoyer

timid haven
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How is it comparing?

final star
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It is useless on any non-ST boss

timid haven
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So it does well on st but not as aoe I'm gathering

spice spire
red schooner
golden loom
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all around me

royal lantern
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we literally just had a 0,5% wipe

golden loom
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1,1%

humble verge
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finally fixed my stix log

runic hinge
humble verge
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from 3,08 to 4,11 poggers

spice spire
maiden sierra
runic hinge
glacial slate
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Hey guys, I think I saw a command for this info but I can't remember what it was: what's the best settings for simming Assassination for m+?

runic hinge
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Dslice

humble verge
glacial slate
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thanks!

humble verge
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we going crazy with these logs

maiden sierra
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wait

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680ilvl

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669ilvl

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682ilvl

red schooner
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The dates make it make more sense

maiden sierra
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oh wait its not sorted by date

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yeah

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im happy with stix parse being a green

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fuck that boss

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on the other hand, i need a better OAB and mugzee parse

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unfortunatly im on bench duty so the other rogue can get CE

red schooner
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My stix parse is grey because I got brought in for one pull, died and then that was the pull we apparently killed it

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Stix prog was great, sit out for 80 pulls, get brought in to fill in a gap for 20 minutes, get the kill

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Good boss

maiden sierra
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i wish that was me

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on our reclear i drove over a bomb

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because none of the bombs around my marker got hit

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i felt vietnam flashbacks of prog frustration

meager plank
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!up

red schooner
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Show us the boomkin pull count

haughty flicker
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we did not do well on stix

red schooner
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I almost had to Boomie on stix

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Raid leader had me practising Boomie on my druid just in case

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Because our main Boomie fucking traumatised me and the RL by spending night 1 on stix in single target build

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"why is his add damage above 80% non-existent'

'....oh'

golden loom
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first CE poggers

runic hinge
red schooner
lime musk
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just about to start myth gally prog, any rogue specific tips and tricks?

hidden bay
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fatebound pretty fun, sadly i got nuked on sprocket from our mage

red schooner
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97 cauldron log, fatebound meta confirmed

hidden bay
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gotta prepare for next tier

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💪

humble verge
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yay

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1% better log on sprocket

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wihu

golden loom
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2 pulls before this was gonna be a 200 log kekdog

hidden bay
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with deathstalker i wouldve gone easy 100 today on gally, its crazy

golden loom
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7:15 fast as fk

coral ibex
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yea holy

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my prog kill was 8 mins

golden loom
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Held cds for the 2:53 set of adds

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and did like no damage there

coral ibex
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yea i have no idea how im supposed to send my cds

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all the kill times are so variable

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i guess getting cleave is good but it just didnt work out for me

shy axle
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just to be sure i understand it correctly, the stay above 150e for SB dmg you can do in the bleed spec in st is just gar/rupture/ct on boss, no dn next then chill with high cp and pool energy until refresh dot or dn?

golden loom
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on this pull we wiped just as we went into intermission..

balmy condor
shy axle
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thank you

potent raven
spice spire
golden loom
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tyty

fallow canopy
balmy condor
scarlet meadow
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on gallywix, when you immune the 3rd soak with cloak in p2, do you pre immune with cloak or cloak after to clear the heal absorb?

balmy condor
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pre

scarlet meadow
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thanks boss 🫡

subtle tundra
spice spire
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Definitely easier

golden loom
fallow canopy
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Rexxar on 8 mask clears gally

royal lantern
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JESUS ITS OVER

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can we please kick our tanks now

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ffs

humble verge
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jk jk

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gamer

red schooner
royal lantern
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mate

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we dropped

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almost 500 WR

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this was so painfull to watch

red schooner
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I think we climbed wr somehow

thorn thorn
worldly dock
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Guys how are you dealing as Assa with the RIK adds?

thorn thorn
sudden brook
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
royal lantern
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we had 11 wipes when the boss was at 30% or lower

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cus the tanks fucked up taunts and put the soak 2x into the same group

thorn thorn
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Incredible

runic hinge
fallow canopy
spice spire
royal lantern
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and the tanks just randomly taunting

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like, literally random taunts for no reason

spice spire
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They’re watching dbm too hard then

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If you don’t cd an ego you get way more stacks

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And at like 8 it says “yo taunt fuck boi”

slate crown
sullen mural
half light
thorn thorn
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0 days since rik reverb barrel dam brought up

golden loom
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!richard

worldly dock
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We actually killed it

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thanks for advice

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I was struggling so hard on those barrels

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Wondering if Stix is the same 😄

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!stix

maiden sierra
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what world rank did your guilds get after killing gally?

balmy condor
worldly dock
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Thx Whispyr

maiden sierra
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im curious how many guilds cleared it

sullen mural
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its funny how the gap from mugzee to gally is the smallest than any other boss

maiden sierra
balmy condor
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turbo ilvl kicking in

maiden sierra
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kinda hate that ngl

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too much borrowed power

balmy condor
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we killed tuesday

winged quail
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meanwhile im praying we kill cockensuck or whatever tomorrow

maiden sierra
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this is prob going to be the tier with the highest CE in history

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were still have like 2 more months of this season

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its so going to hit 1600 clears

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bummer... Race to World Last is going to be sad this tier

fallow canopy
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Shruge don't see the issue with more people getting CE

normal mist
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more people clearing it is actually a good thing

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It means more players are raiding mythic, less guilds are disbanding, etc

maiden sierra
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im an elitist that has the unpopular opinion that in a game with 4 raid difficulties, the hardest difficulty should be hard caterm

fallow canopy
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mythic raiding is already kinda hard to get into just for the lockout system and the forced 20 man requirement

normal mist
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The hard part about mythic (in a macro PoV) is gathering 20 players that all have good time schedules to be available for 2/3 days raiding per week

maiden sierra
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thats what im saying

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it should be harder

normal mist
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But why

fallow canopy
maiden sierra
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because its mythic

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its not meant to be cleared by everyone

acoustic roost
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Hall of Fame is pretty hard

willow eagle
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It's a nice break after nerubar palace difficulty

maiden sierra
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thats why lfr, normal and heroic exist for

normal mist
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I don't understand those elitist thoughts, sorry

fallow canopy
maiden sierra
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thats why i said its an unpopular opinion

normal mist
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Maybe that's why PvP is in a shit state all around

maiden sierra
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i know im in the minority

maiden sierra
willow eagle
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I liked it but a 2nd tier in a row of that difficulty would cause burnout I think

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I prefer this tier on how the pull count is more spaced out between bosses

maiden sierra
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nah im more burned out by this tier by how shit the bosses are

willow eagle
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And you dont run into 300 pulls into court then another 250 into queen

maiden sierra
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i dont think i like more than 2 bosses in the raid

thorn thorn
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Bro is not from this planet with that kind of take

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He is from mars

maiden sierra
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i like mars

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especially the cock vein

willow eagle
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Some ppl at higher rank guilds share the sentiment that this raid is too easy

thorn thorn
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I knew you were a freak

maiden sierra
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a freak in the sheets

willow eagle
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But I'm having more fun this tier

thorn thorn
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I think the bosses this tier are a pretty fair balance of hard and easy

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Except stix

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Stix is cancer as hell

winged quail
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I don't mind the raid being easier this late into the season, before the nerfs, turbo boost, and dinars the raid was a good difficulty

thorn thorn
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Ye

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I also have the unpopular opinion that the raid rep buff shouldnt apply to healing since it makes raid healing more boring as the season goes on imo

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But its prolly good for people still progging ig

winged quail
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I think it's wack that it double dips on healers that heal from their damage like Disc and MW

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
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Im just aotc but I like the challenge

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I dont like the concept of just having to drop more healers to actually be challenged as a whole

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But I just heal at the start of the season and when it gets too easy I just dps swap

viral sage
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at what key level do u guys think you should change to hybrid and then onto forced induction builds?

thorn thorn
willow eagle
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I'm not a fan of the ilvl bump ngl

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kind of distorted progression across raid and keys

maiden sierra
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ilvl bump would be fine, if content didint get nerfed and we didint get corruptions

thorn thorn
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ilvl bump is whatever, helps people who are somehow still progging

maiden sierra
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but we got all 3

thorn thorn
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But they also chose to nerf stuff too

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So its a double whammy of making shit easier

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Doesnt bother me much tho

modest apex
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srs question how do i explain raid lead that assa is not good to go in cages on mug zee?

thorn thorn
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Im used to being in guilds that will probably get a dps increase from using the one button rotation being added garf_sit

winged quail
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I just wonder how insane stats are going to get next season, assuming they will do the usual ilvl bump

winged quail
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
thorn thorn
winged quail
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send them the Rik copypasta but for jails

maiden sierra
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(im going to delve...)

red schooner
winged quail
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I just did 30 keys the week the ilvl bump dropped and now im capped

red schooner
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Ilvl boost was great for me, had enough lower crests to get 440 gilded so barely had to do m+ kekdog

maiden sierra
winged quail
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I up-traded crests every week cuz im impatient

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regretted it

maiden sierra
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hated life

modest apex
maiden sierra
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just do cages

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not a big deal

thorn thorn
red schooner
thorn thorn
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Sin is shit at target swapping

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And if he still doesnt get it

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Your raid lead is dumb as fuck

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Unlucky

modest apex
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dont we even do more dmg with caustic than target swapping?

winged quail
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probably lmao

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time you fully swapped it's half dead

sonic zinc
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do 2 pulls 1 going in goal another not, and show the log of what dmg ur doing

hidden bay
weary spear
hidden bay
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@balmy condor my fatebound log is better than your normal log disappointment i challenge you to play fatebound next raid on gally

balmy condor
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bro is still log checking me a week later

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diabolical

hidden bay
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got it in bookmarks

worldly dock
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Are there any helpful WA for Stix?

hidden bay
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What is helpful for you?

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Be more specific

worldly dock
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for the whole raid

hidden bay
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the regular WA pack has everything you need

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sec

worldly dock
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messing a bit with bombshells

hidden bay
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do you have the normal weakaura pack for the whole raid?

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either liquid/ns/blabla

worldly dock
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i think liq

hidden bay
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ok

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if you rolling it puts a stop sign on bombshells to see em easier if you dont have it

worldly dock
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Thanks Herp

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we will try them

maiden sierra
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Pro tip: drive into bomb shells so healers can parse

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Thats what i did and my MW got a 98parse

nova kelp
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On myth that's a swift death lol

maiden sierra
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I did it on mythic

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Nobody died

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Were in turbo week, bombs dont do damage

nova kelp
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ah fair, I haven't seen the fight in a bit really

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oh shit yeah ages

maiden sierra
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Honestly im glad

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Fuck stix

nova kelp
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very true, fuck stix

thorn thorn
winged quail
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Pressing feint is a dps loss sorry mr raidlead can’t do it

autumn idol
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and my mw got a rank 1 parse

sullen mural
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Did he bug abuse or

balmy condor
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🐛

humble verge
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@winged sun almost timed 18 flood with hybrid ome look at this terrible deeps

winged sun
humble verge
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hunter died on last boss, we had like

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3 minutes couldve easily done it but he got stunned and then got the zap too lmao

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idk

winged sun
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we missed resilient 20 by depleting 3 seconds

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on last boss rookery

humble verge
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ah this was 18 resi but

winged sun
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i think our deplete was due to outlaw rng

humble verge
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me when i get hostaged into 18 keys

jolly heath
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Do u still need to swap to sub for rookery

humble verge
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you mean dfc?

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idk i could remove SD for something else, does nothing in these keys, im just trolling

scarlet orbit
spice surge
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Ye the passive bleed damage is more impactful than the execute

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So in your linked log the 15% bleed damage is doing like 6% of your damage since ~40% of your damage is from bleeds

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So theres not really anything else thats giving you more than 8% damage

scarlet orbit
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Now i wonder. Does Sudden Demise higher the dmg of Singular Focus because your bleeds to more?

spice surge
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Singular focus is based on the damage the bleed does yes

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So if you do more damage with the bleed, singular does more

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Unfortunately the demise proc itself does not work with singular focus

winged sun
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Unfortunately singular focus is barely good

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Its slightly overrated

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Its quite good in big packs tho

scarlet orbit
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Wait? The calculation does not care about the boost of the same talent?

spice surge
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What

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Oh my bad

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I meant singular

scarlet orbit
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Ah ok was completly confused 😄

versed mica
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
winged sun
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From all the keys i did, the most thing that allowed me to do the highest funnel was rupture on 5 targets and deathmark, out of deathmark ur basically doing normal dmg to ur main mob on average if ur manually refreshing rupture that is

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So half the time ur funnel isn’t all that amazing

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Its quite mid

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You need to move ur cds around to get the most out of it

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And make sin be as viable as arcane

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Im sure it seems like alot of you good rogues out there are doing crazy funnel all the time but thats just because ur grp sucks at dpsing

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Its important to use ur cds wisely for rly good funnel

thorn thorn
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Just play with Shadow

winged sun
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Bleed build by far has the shittiest funnel of all time

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Might aswell call it the no funnel build

scarlet orbit
thorn thorn
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Then you got your funnel

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Play with Arcane too

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And take the mages PI

winged sun
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Nah

scarlet orbit
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I play if we even find time with dh resto druid enh sp and assa. But we also dont play keys where that is a problem ^^

winged sun
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Mage+sin is way too high funnel

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Results in a dps loss on average

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By a long shot

thorn thorn
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Someone has to steal the greedy mages PI

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Is it gonna be demo???

winged sun
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Outlaw byfar has the worst dmg profile out of all the good classes in the game

thorn thorn
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I thought Outlaw was flat

winged sun
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Extremely unreliable

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U can easily deplete keys due to rng

thorn thorn
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Great design

thorn thorn
ripe portal
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hello

winged sun
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well

spice surge
winged sun
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outlaw is rly good in some keys like ML

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ToP

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and idk what else

normal mist
winged sun
spice surge
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Like the chinese cinderbrew log with bleed he is doing ~8% or so less than a log of yours on the first muscle shrugeg

winged sun
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well a big pull like that i'd expect bleed to do the same tbh

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if not more maybe

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bleed is good on that pull since u have 3 musccles

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u can just bleed 3 of them and gain alot of dmg through execute

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but it wont work anyways, poison is king in those kind of keys

winged sun
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would've loved it if assa didnt rely on mark dmg

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that shit depletes keys easily

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cringe

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same with ambush not applying spatter i think that should be a feature

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instead of needing poison and bleeds up

thorn thorn
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The bug that causes marks to just vanish or not be applied?

winged sun
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if u die with darkest night its gg

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no class in the game relies on something like this

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at all

thorn thorn
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If only fatebound wasnt ass

spice surge
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I mean outlaw dying right after casting AR is kinda similarly cursed no

runic hinge
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@hidden bay

winged sun
thorn thorn
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Ye

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Cuz if you have no mark then you just have no hero talent

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gg

ripe portal
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How can I check the Assassin Rogue's Simc Vis?

balmy condor
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simc what

ripe portal
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sorry bis
Can I check the bis all items?

pure moth
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Droptimizer?

spice surge
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You can but i wouldnt recommend doing it because its not really providing you with any useful information

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Simming yourself is way more accurate

balmy condor
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bis isn't a thing, there's too many items that make too many combinations which are all equal

ripe portal
#

thanks

#

Is it okay to follow the stat weight?

spice surge
#

Just topgear

ripe portal
#

i got it

thorn thorn
#

But Whispyr of Wowhead said Fatebound bad in aoe

#

Why do top dam

slate crown
maiden sierra
balmy condor
red schooner
#

Next tier list you just need to find items where the first letters spell 'sim yourself'

#

It'd be funny as fuck

thorn thorn
hidden bay
# runic hinge <@230727557870387201>

fateboundtails FATEBOUND TOPPING THE METERS??? fateboundheads HEROTALENT BROKEN??? fateboundtails DONT LET BLIZZARD SEE fateboundheads TRASHING OTHER CLASSES? fateboundheads WATCH US GETTING NERFED fateboundtails FLIPPING COINS SO WE CAN FLIP THE META fateboundtails

maiden sierra
#

I think whispyr should make the next season bis list be the worst item in each slot instead for memes

#

And see how many normies fall for it

red schooner
#

Bis list, all cloth gear

#

Secret strat

visual sun
#

put crafted int dagger as bis and watch the world burn

red schooner
runic hinge
#

target swapping like a boss

#

ST is a little better too

red schooner
#

New super high key fatebound build let's go

hidden bay
#

@winged sun play fatebound in +20 thx

thorn thorn
hidden bay
#

Had no Chinese keyboard on phone

#

Ty garf_sit

red schooner
thorn thorn
winged sun
#

rogue should have double jump

thorn thorn
winged sun
#

and glide too how about that

thorn thorn
#

Or play drac and have glide

fast phoenix
runic hinge
hidden bay
#

Had 12 in raid

#

Burst was crazy

visual sun
#

easier to ask whispyr whats the daily head enchant meta than 12 flips no?

broken lion
#

Whats a flip

spice surge
#

A thing you can do with coins

broken lion
#

Whats that got to do with the best head enchant?

spice surge
#

Nothing, its related to fatebound

broken lion
#

ah

#

so void ritual ig

glass relic
#

What the flip man?

waxen oyster
#

If only fatebound was actually good at something

#

at least some other classes their hero trees have different damage profiles/talents

hoary moon
#

I went gushing wounds

#

Any other gushers in the chat?

autumn idol
#

so

#

how is it possible

#

for my kingsbane to miss

thorn thorn
#

Miss how

#

Parried? Dodged?

autumn idol
#

not get applied when pressed

#

i checked details

thorn thorn
#

Huh

autumn idol
#

doesnt say parried

#

it went on cooldown

indigo mulch
#

It can't be parried anymore if i remember correctly.

autumn idol
#

it just didnt go into effect

autumn idol
#

guard captain suleyman got tired of me killing his ass

thorn thorn
#

Do you have a log

autumn idol
#

naur i dont log

thorn thorn
#

mmm

autumn idol
#

it was a depleto anyway

thorn thorn
#

Best I can do is speculate then

autumn idol
#

yeah me too

thorn thorn
#

And I speculate skill issue

autumn idol
#

details showed

thorn thorn
#

Do you use mouseover

autumn idol
#

casts 1

#

hits 0

#

damage 0

autumn idol
thorn thorn
#

Did he die or something when you used it

#

If not then no idea

#

Log in the future athumbsup

hallow glade
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
junior goblet
#

anyone know if this breakdown for overall in darkflame looks correct? i feel like i should be doing more dmg with bleed build

grizzled lynx
#

Pne question guys

thorn thorn
grizzled lynx
#

At pools? Do u change you target to apply bleeds? With the bleed build ofc

junior goblet
thorn thorn
#

I want to say singular focus should be higher and so should hunt them down but not entirely sure

grizzled lynx
#

I mean, when u put bleeds and uses mutilate it applys bleeds to targets but, what is the cap?

#

Shoul i tab and use bleeds o other target, at least at opener?

thorn thorn
#

Bleed build should be running IC so easy way to spread bleeds that way

grizzled lynx
#

Sorry what is IC

junior goblet
#

indiscriminate carnage talent

grizzled lynx
#

Oh ok yeah i use it

thorn thorn
#

For a bit after unstealthing your Garrote and rupture apply to 2 nearby enemies

junior goblet
#

also, i use mousover macros to apply bleeds to other targets

#

when not in that IC window ofc

hoary moon
#

If its 5 targets, you should apply bleeds to everything focussing just one target

grizzled lynx
#

Ok

#

And in big pools?

#

Should i use mouseover macros?

hoary moon
#

More than 5 and you will need to bleed different targets, i use mouseovers for that

hoary moon
grizzled lynx
#

That was my qestion

#

And do u refres bleeds ?

hoary moon
#
/use [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Rupture```
hoary moon
#

Mouseover is amazing in raid for rupture sniping tho

#

Was good on stix prog

grizzled lynx
#

Okey thx

#

What is that macro for?

hoary moon
grizzled lynx
#

Thx dude

hoary moon
#

Nw!

gritty laurel
#

assuming they're playing bleed build like they said, that's not accurate (thing i was replying to vanished)

brave comet
#

there's just no difference between these embellishments this really sucks

buoyant herald
#

What sucks exactly?

brave comet
#

embellishments

buoyant herald
#

Yeah they’re pretty unimportant

#

Kinda neat that it’s hard to make a wrong choice though

balmy condor
#

Yeh that’s kinda the idea of war within tbh

#

Corruptions, enchants, embellishments

bronze pike
#

tinkets

balmy condor
#

Basically everything this expansion is just “idk just wear something who cares it’s all the same”

bright tartan
#

peak game design

balmy condor
#

I mean it’s kinda impressive balance wise honestly

#

But yeah kinda aids

stable island
#

!bug

prisma monolithBOT
runic hinge
#

i think they took some complaints about being "forced" to craft embellishments very seriously

buoyant herald
#

What are the alternatives though? One thing is head and shoulders above the rest? Dumb, you just take one thing there’s no choice. Best option for aoe and best option for ST? Dumb, now I have to get two gear sets if I want to optimise for both

#

Like what’s the ideal situation here?

#

Or do we just want it to matter so we can be rewarded for being high-info gamers

stable island
#

anyone else having thistle tea randomly get cast?

jaunty sky
#

Are u hitting the energy threshold

stable island
#

thats dumb as fuck

buoyant herald
#

Literally, it allows you to be dumb 😎

golden loom
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

haughty flicker
#

pre nerf sporecloak

thorn thorn
#

Lariat and prenerf sporecloak

buoyant herald
#

i lovede sporecloak, it was a choice

#

to take huge defensive value over minor offensive

#

i actually thought that was a good idea, although it was too good

balmy condor
#

choice in an RPG is crazy

buoyant herald
#

they didn't need to nerf it to uselessness though rip

thorn thorn
#

The sporecloak was a scheme to see how degen people would get for dam

#

And the results show that a disturbing amount of people would take a stamina loss for ~1%

buoyant herald
#

are you thinking sarkareth cloak?

thorn thorn
#

Even tho sporecloak was of similar offensive value with not even comparible defense power

haughty flicker
#

that was sark cloak

thorn thorn
#

Yes i am indeed referring to the sark cloak

rotund oak
buoyant herald
#

sporecloak was the one that gave you a big shield

thorn thorn
#

Yes

buoyant herald
#

zero offensive value

thorn thorn
#

It had a vers component to it

haughty flicker
#

it had enough vers at first that for many specs it was still the highest dps option

#

or very close to it

thorn thorn
#

Its not zero but its pretty low

haughty flicker
#

while also having a huge shield

#

pre nerf

buoyant herald
#

i meant no value beyond the stats

#

or did it give vers too?

thorn thorn
#

Well yea but why would you ignore the stats it gives

#

Thats stupid

#

It had an effect that you got vers above 70% health

buoyant herald
#

i totally forgot that bit

thorn thorn
#

Not zero but not really significant

haughty flicker
#

it was incredibly significant

#

it had to be nerfed by 75% lmao

thorn thorn
#

The sark cloak was very slightly better but the defensive value lost is out of the questionably not worth it

#

But yet you had dumbasses all season wearing it saying it was worth it

#

Even tho the buff had like 3% uptime in keys

#

And you could go entire boss fights without it happening

buoyant herald
#

i remember the guidewriters getting upset that they had to list it in their BiS list

#

because it DID sim highest

haughty flicker
#

gigachads wore sark cloak perma

thorn thorn
#

Yes because it was very slightly more dps than a regular cloak

#

Like sub 1% levels of slightly

buoyant herald
#

i think most wrote a section saying "yeah but don't use it" lol

haughty flicker
#

stamina is for pansies

thorn thorn
#

And because it was more dam it has to be included

#

Even tho its shit

#

Cuz the buff was a super rare proc

#

With extremely low uptime

#

High or low rolling the class trinkets were more likely to make or break your parse

thorn thorn
#

Said the stamina wasnt that important for tanks

haughty flicker
#

holy based

thorn thorn
#

Yea

#

He also died a lot

#

Saying vdh is squishy

bronze pike
#

cause i wore it as a tank

thorn thorn
#

Yep

bronze pike
#

and died 0 times

#

stam means nothing

thorn thorn
#

“The extra dam helps me keep aggro”

#

Oh boy a whole extra 0.7% extra dam poggers

bronze pike
#

oh i hate that

thorn thorn
#

Really gonna help you not rip from billy the ret who is blasting too early

bronze pike
#

imagine fiending for hours days even for sub 1% gains to help you maintain aggro

thorn thorn
#

Yeppers

haughty flicker
#

Sounds like this season

bronze pike
#

when you can increase you damage output to keep threat by spending 30mins on a dummy to learn your rotation

#

there was

#

a time here in outlaw chat

#

wher epeople we're shilling max level cheatdeath trinket from mega dungeon

#

and it was a sub 1% gain cause stats

thorn thorn
#

People will do crazy shit for sub 1%

#

On a near weekly basis we have to talk about evoker dps who refuse to take source and potent mana (mana gain and 3% healing and dam for a healer) over a talent that is literally 0.8% increase

#

People are dumb as fuck

bronze pike
#

theyre vdh tanks needed it cause they needed double cheat death

#

cause vdh was squishy

#

even tho cheat death talent for vdh at the time came at a steep 30% dps and defensive loss

#

but no its needed

thorn thorn
#

Yeh

#

People just make up whatever mess makes them feel better

#

Results in a lot of misinformation

thorn thorn
#

He took fel dev healing

#

Because “the silence isnt that important, i would rather the extra healing”

bronze pike
#

the .2% extra hjealing while your in your strongest defensively

#

very useful

thorn thorn
#

Yup

slate crown
waxen oyster
#

I mean when has hp been a relevant point for tanks

#

You either get your entire health deleted by a swing you didnt mitigate

#

or you mitigate live and get topped next global

balmy condor
#

getting topped?

rotund oak
plucky canopy
#

How does double atrophic poisen work? (From two different rogues)
Does is stack?
And if so, does it additive or multiplicative?

balmy condor
#

yes it stacks and it's multiplicative

plucky canopy
#

Thx ❤️

wary light
#

Seems like rogue players would be playing Poe for sure

subtle tundra
#

great game, a bit too easy, gameplay is fun

subtle tundra
restive glade
#

guys i have an extra spark and mayb i can craft something for dungeons but idk, any ideas? ring sims worse for mythic and raid

wary light
buoyant herald
#

interesting, 681 ring + jastors was better for me

#

but it was close

sonic zinc
#

any minmax diff in using hoc over priory? or do i just send hoc with dm or whatever

buoyant herald
#

are you trying to craft mastery on ring?

restive glade
buoyant herald
#

looks like you've got a lot of mastery/crit already

#

humour me and sim a haste/vers ring

restive glade
restive glade
#

+.1% with crit/haste ring (bleed build) kekw

wary light
#

When doing droptimiser crafting Sims just send every secondary combo

restive glade
#

w8 simmed patchwork

wary light
sonic zinc
buoyant herald
#

tbh mate i think you're just swimming in mastery, but also if you unbalance it your priory is gonna pick crit sometimes which makes it worse so its kinda more than the ring at play

#

but i'd take a 0.1% increase and a boatload of extra stam any day

wary light
#

But you'll have to hold 2nd for 30 sec

#

So don't macro it

#

(I think you hold anyway, I don't use HoC)

sonic zinc
#

ye

fervent fractal
#

so for the first boss of priory, we want to keep our bleeds on the other officer to generate energy and get the scent of blood buff, right?

buoyant herald
#

absoloodle

#

they also share hp

#

or at least damage to the lieutenant counts towards the boss

restive glade
runic hinge
#

In both sims

quiet oar
# slate crown

Saw the Dratnos VIdeo, where he discussed this. Like they have 50 different Embelish Items

#

but you only use 5 or 6

wet wharf
#

Good morning! How do you guys play bandit mythic? You stay on the boss and put a rupture on the assistant?

runic hinge
#

They could make things impactful but maybe better for some specs than others or they can make everything 1% trash just put anything on and it’s fine

buoyant herald
#

I thought his point was more “why bother making these fun ones when you only ever take passive stats” but yeah

runic hinge
#

Idk what the solution is

buoyant herald
#

I think what we have now is the least offensive

#

Nice lil bonus but doesn’t really matter if you forgot or craft the “wrong” thing

wary light
#

Haste/crit, haste/mast

bronze pike
#

people might say brew but not even

grim jay
grim jay
#

In terms of strength

#

They could also keep the crafting system as is and add spec/class specific powers

#

So basically legendary crafting but with the normal system

runic hinge
grim jay
royal lantern
#

+6? wow look at mister "does content made for the top 0,000000000000000000001%" there

uneven plume
#

we made it.

#

tank died on azerokk too

#

WF 21 rogue

#

eta gg

grim jay
haughty flicker
grim jay
#

That fits really well

runic hinge
balmy condor
#

huge

subtle tundra
#

gz

#

you should grow an ego and have a superiority complex

uneven plume
#

thinking about it

subtle tundra
#

what the fuck is your comp

sonic zinc
#

u should feel bad 😠

subtle tundra
#

brewmaster rsham feral arms??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

sonic zinc
#

not a 22 get better

subtle tundra
#

bro playing hardmode

sonic zinc
#

big melee comp

subtle tundra
#

huge gaming

runic hinge
#

I wish I had that comp

gloomy heart
#

balls

sonic zinc
#

i have the people for that comp, they just needa stop beig cowards

grim jay
subtle tundra
#

well its some variation of monk shaman druid warrior

#

now if its warrior tank druid heal shaman dps or whatever

sonic zinc
#

its the comp zac wants

subtle tundra
#

and playing off meta is always much harder than playing meta cause you have to actually create your route and strategies, cant just copy

#

im a big fan of offmeta comp players

grim jay
#

Idk im pretty outdated on comps. Someone also said phys is gdruid rsham/disc mm warr sin

sonic zinc
#

when i bdk i just zug

#

my routes

runic hinge
subtle tundra
grim jay
#

Im always rogue, tank and heal are meta slaves, but the other dps are fills

uneven plume
haughty flicker
#

incredibly based

runic hinge
#

So sick

sonic zinc
runic hinge
#

Need that in my life

sonic zinc
#

i have a pocket farole

subtle tundra
#

did the AI really have to mention this 😭

normal mist
#

Did you ask it to become a friend?

subtle tundra
#

i did tell it that i love it

#

and it said it back

rotund oak
rotund oak
#

i wanna exercise,work

wary light
rotund oak
subtle tundra
rotund oak
#

there is assassin as well,just not strong enough

rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

but my friends are pussies and dont really go out for activities anymore other than SIT AT A BAR/PUB/WHATEVER

#

GROW UP

rotund oak
#

dunno fam,im not waiting for anyone,i make way

#

others follow

#

mfkin alpha

subtle tundra
#

🪤

#

i really want to play tennissssssssssss im just scared cause ive never played it before

rotund oak
#

scared

#

of tennis?

#

u srs bro

#

whats scary about that

subtle tundra
#

the fact that i dont know anyone that plays it so they teach me

#

and to play with

#

i need a boyfriend

rotund oak
#

thats not scary in the slightest

#

that u might need yeah

grim jay
#

Turbo boost was quite the hassle even

#

Currently chilling in CoD if I got spare time

rotund oak
grim jay
#

Need those schooldays back

subtle tundra
rotund oak
#

ill never quit now

#

ill walk even if i reach 80

#

exercise makes u happy,full of energy

subtle tundra
#

yeah i go gym

rotund oak
#

gym OMEGALUL

#

try running on the country side

#

gym my ass

#

go to the garden,plant ur veggies,work

#

have a balanced diet including everything

#

no secret for anything

#

just be normal

runic hinge
#

No

grim bronze
#

Most accurate sim for trinkets for dungeons?
Is that mdt sim, dslice, or xtargets over x seconds?

magic ginkgo
#

What WA do you guys use to track party members cooldowns?

sonic zinc
#

omnicd, an addon not a wa

spring stream
#

too late..

sonic zinc
#

L

grim jay
#

Gym time is my normal. Pepegrin

grim jay
#

Because who cares garf

grim bronze
wide ferry
#

anyone manage 8 masks on rogue? Without cds im getting my cheeks spread when 2 elites appear

#

679 ilevel

ocean laurel
#

Hey, guys i cannot find it in any guide or mb iam blind. Should i always try to stay above 30 energy to save tt? or just send it

thick sigil
hoary moon
#

i did it in bleed build btw, stayed bleed build for bosses as well

thick sigil
hoary moon
thick sigil
#

How do you skip it tho?

hoary moon
#

blind the scarab guys that sees through stealth, then walk past and vanish

thick sigil
#

Mmm

hoary moon
#

then kill rexxar, then do the same thing and run back to the drag

thick sigil
#

Havent tried blinding them, tried vanish which just doesnt work

hoary moon
#

yeah blind and run past, you will be in combat

#

then vanish will work

thick sigil
#

Does it work with the blind talent that reduced CD etc? (Airborne irritant)

hoary moon
#

yep, blind the big guy and everything gets blinded

thick sigil
#

Well, might give it a shot again today then, since i can nuke rexxar with cloak but that pack is just shit...
Now i just need to now have insane aggro range in the drag area

queen rover
#

can anyone tldr aoe for me?
ambush > garrote > rupture > ? > ? >

if its 5 mobs do i just keep garrote/rupture spamming til they're all debuffed, then cp for crimson > mutilate > then do the death mark ?

hoary moon
#

ambush > garrote > rupture > rupture > garrote > garrote > tempest > mutilate

#

in 5 target that will bleed everything

queen rover
#

does the second rupture not care about CP?

#

if the target rupture cp usage was higher , its like an override system? lower wont affect it?

hoary moon
queen rover
#

thank you, and if my garrotes/ruptures start to hit pandemic, is it just simply vanish > reapply?

hoary moon
#

if i think i need the vanish ill holder and just manually put new ruptures up, otherwise i send the vanish

distant plinth
#

Probably at 10-20% left when garrote hits pandemic depends on key lvl ofc

distant plinth
feral agate
#

heya guys, what do you use as greater runes right now ? Echoing void still bugged right ?

thick sigil
grim jay
#

Void Ritual can be hit or miss

#

Hope they fix echoing void soon

#

(probably wont)

snow hamlet
grim jay
#

Getting it on downtime/small pulls is a miss

snow hamlet
grim jay
#

I hate rng with a burning passion

#

Stat rng stuff is the worst

snow hamlet
#

😭

rotund oak
grim jay
#

Dangerous situation

rotund oak
#

yup

grim jay
#

Tho I imagine if you live together at some point its no biggie anyways, might even help to not get on eachothers nerves

rotund oak
#

my only weapon was food

#

😂

#

she ate whatever she wanted

subtle tundra
#

talking to woman... hard...

rotund oak
#

u learn to decipher things

#

takes time though

subtle tundra
#

thats not the problem
finding one thats ok with how mental i am is

rotund oak
#

u try again and again king

#

never stop until u succeed

#

not rly hard once u udnerstand how their brain works

#

i mean to talk to them that is

subtle tundra
#

i tried understanding one

#

mystical creatures i tell you