assassination

[balmy condor]

as long as its not during cds it's not THAT important

and if it's during cds you probably don't need to spread anyway

[real lichen]

Void ritual rn instead of echoing cause its bugged right?

[balmy condor]

yea

[real lichen]

thanks

[tall jay]

Is it normal to only get like 1 blood per run? I have been trying to get my quest done but it don’t give me the bloods in the chests?

[humble condor]

1 per major area

[coral ibex]

only from tier 2 areas

[golden loom]

If you do a full clear you get 2 per run

so 4 runs total

[coral ibex]

best to just rush valley of wisdom

speed clear

and then leave instance

if all you need are the bloods

[golden loom]

wtf tryhard

boo!

[tall jay]

lol ok cool

[coral ibex]

you think im trying to spend more than the absolute minimum amount of time doing this content

smh

[golden loom]

I actually had fun

something about zooming around just sudden demiseing everything from 50%

[coral ibex]

i need to get back to chrome king gallywix (mythic)

[golden loom]

yeah I am going back there in 10 hours...

[coral ibex]

yea it was fun to crank everything during carnage/MA

[red schooner]

Going to mugzee in 10 hours, boss doesn't seem too bad so far

[golden loom]

nice shield Thrall.. unlucky for you all my bleeds and deathmark are up so you die 🙂

I like mugzee

[red schooner]

Apart from dumb deaths due to people not crossing sides

[golden loom]

gally is weird..

[coral ibex]

i really want gally to die this week so we reclear

so i can kill oab

xd

[red schooner]

I am looking forward to prog ending, as we went straight from queen prog into undermine

I'm tired boss

[rustic zealot]

Hi Guys do we have any news about Echoing Voids getting fixed?

[nova kelp]

it's not fixed

who knows, maybe it's meant to be how it is

[proud badge]

If I wanted to swap between Outlaw and Assassination the best choice for my Chips would be Pacemaker right?

[sharp viper]

there isn't much overlap in terms of what you want from chips but pacemaker could certainly be one item both specs can utilize - also depends on what you have access to in terms of mythic raid?

[proud badge]

Nothing just all 12s

[wary light]

That nice vault day feeling when you hit one of the only remaining upgrades from the M+ pool

This spec is so weird, I'm still not used to haste being so good, I'm at 17% and my sims are loving it, 16.7k mast, 11.3k haste, 11.8k crit, probably because of pacemaker.

[humble verge]

well someone just bugging out dornogal

[thick sigil]

I know we are to trust the Sims etc...
But i got myth pacemaker, and now it tells me to replace my HC house of cards in ST/cleave sims
Seems weird eh?
It says to use either hc eye of kezan, or myth stix trinket (for sub 6min fights)

[royal lantern]

send the sims

[wary light]

Yeah send that it seems very odd

[balmy condor]

probably insano crit

[wary light]

Inb4 23k crit rating

[thick sigil]

At work atm (ye i think about min/max at work), so will send when i get home

[humble verge]

dawg go to bed 😭

[balmy condor]

?

it's 2

[humble verge]

wait only

ohok

ure good then

[thick sigil]

Got like 16k mastery, 10k haste/crit (+pacemaker) and 11k vers
Also got jastors

[balmy condor]

wtf are those stats

[humble verge]

crazy ass stats

[grim jay]

Vampspyr doesnt fear the night anyways

[humble verge]

lmao

[balmy condor]

yeah your signet is doomed lmao

[thick sigil]

Not signet, house of cards

Not simming signet

[balmy condor]

oh

idk still cooked xd

that's so much vers for no reason

[grim jay]

Its kinda low mastery for no reason

[balmy condor]

so yeh probably myth magnet just ilvl gapping

with that much vers

[humble verge]

you guys arent over mastery DR?

smh

[balmy condor]

most people are, yes

idk where the mastery DR is

but yeah

[humble verge]

well im only losing like

270 mastery

not bad

[balmy condor]

whatever that means

[thick sigil]

Got that much vers due to thinking huge vers/mast ring was giga (started sub.. got TOP ring)
It still simmed better than circlet with current stats 🤔

Maybe i did something giga scuffed, will check when i get home and send 😂

[red schooner]

I'm sat here with 19k mastery which is fine probs.

[humble verge]

if i swap to cauldron, i go 15,8/18,2k

[red schooner]

I sent upgrades through the robot, robot said to equip things

[grim jay]

Nah get out

[humble verge]

oh nvm its basically 16*

[red schooner]

no you

[humble verge]

tho im too poor to get gems

[balmy condor]

I mean realistically if your hoc is heroic track it's just gonna get ilvl gapped

trinkets this expansion are dogshit all around

magnet has big mastery

errrrrrr

agi

not mastery

[red schooner]

I feel like I should get more mastery but every time I upgraded the robot said 'nah bud, get the haste item', and the robot is smarter than me so idk

[balmy condor]

all the stats do the same shit who cares

silly game

[thick sigil]

True, hope to get oab down this week or next and actually get myth hoc, but we'll see...

I was just wondering, because it seems kinda scuffed, but ye could make sense

[grim jay]

I have like 11k crit 3.3k haste 22k mastery and 8k vers or something. 3 crafteds, 2 with vers and robot doesnt want me to recraft unless I want a 0.1% gain.

[humble verge]

you guys have vers..?

[grim jay]

#makesecondariesgreatagain

[balmy condor]

if stats actually fucking did something it would be cool idk

haste on casters is impactful

[red schooner]

My haste is just shy of 10k and I have 3k Vers, but robot says number bigger so I equip items that give me bigger number

[balmy condor]

but on energy specs with 1 gcd

it's like what the fuck are we doing

all the stats just do same same

it's all vers but wearing a disguise

[orchid pewter]

I love haste not having impact on gce

Gcd

[humble verge]

"if you dont give me PI, you will feel my wrath"

[grim jay]

On gcd yes, but the energy flow should be impacted by haste more imo

[thick sigil]

Need that dmg reduction so i can stand in more shit and survive 😂

[balmy condor]

why they didn't make PI like a 10% damage buff is actually beyond me

[wary light]

Same, but haste at least feels really nice so idgaf

[golden loom]

based and balanced

[balmy condor]

instead they're hell bent on attaching it to haste

[grim jay]

Why they didnt just make PI a personal CD is beyond me

[balmy condor]

I mean it's fine to have externals

[golden loom]

nah PI should be a buff on someone else

[balmy condor]

externals are not the problem here

it's the fact that they made externals super messy

[grim jay]

I dont want externals, I dont want augvokers. Raidbuffs are fine.

[balmy condor]

externals in an RPG is older than seli, and that dude is older than dirt

buffing characters

is totally fine

blizzard is just dumb as shit

[wary light]

Is Echoing still bugged btw?

[balmy condor]

and implemented it wrong

[royal lantern]

its the same guys that released endless stacking aug buffs and then where shocked that 10aug + 3 unholy dks could kill mythic bosses in 40seconds

[golden loom]

based version of the spell

[balmy condor]

Is your eyes read the pin?

[golden loom]

just have every priest buff 1 mage per person and giga buff ignite

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean this is literally fine

nothing wrong with that

[wary light]

Just checking if they changed anything this reset gamer

[balmy condor]

can even be reversed in logs

[grim jay]

I think externals should always be something that can get mathematically removed on wcl or be attributed to the person that used them in the first place

Like some of the augvoker stuff

[humble verge]

then everyone would be playing priest wdym

[wary light]

I read your pins often Whispyr 😭

[humble verge]

priest tank when?

[balmy condor]

I re-pinned on purpose to avoid this, that's why the red dot and the time stamp on the edit and the "still bugged"

but ya whatever

why the fuck even have pins I guess

nothing I do matters gg

literally doing everything in my power to avoid exactly that

next step would be just fucking timestamping every edit

and then updating the timestamp every 3 hours

so people don't go

"I see the timestamp but still up to date??????????"

like

actually just fucking doomed

nothing to be done

[humble verge]

whispyr, you just suck ass - havent even killed gallywix~nvm

[wary light]

Okay - I apologise Whispyr, I did not see the red dot and I did not mean to cause a crash out.

[balmy condor]

it died though

I mean it's not a crash out aimed at you

[humble verge]

yeah i just saw on your guild logs

lmao

[balmy condor]

it's just a crash out in general

cause like what do I do

unless people just trust that the pins are updated

[flat pier]

Bum ass blizz not fixing the enchats 😄

[balmy condor]

I'm just fucked

[humble verge]

you guys also got great log names

[balmy condor]

chaye cooks hard

there's some stinkers in there too though

but I think on average, pretty fire names

[golden loom]

my own personal log uploads pop off not gonna lie

[humble verge]

this is how easter goes when your RL goes away for holiday, 4 boss reclear instead of 5

[balmy condor]

danihedal fr

[grim jay]

If someone adds an aura buff that is supposed to be 5 % but turns out to be 10%, what do you expect?

[tropic jewel]

😄

i just name it after date

[wary light]

Can't stand the keyboard mash log names oof

[balmy condor]

but it already has a date on the right

redundancy

[tropic jewel]

yeah i know 😄

[humble verge]

date on date

[golden loom]

you are even putting the wrong dates

26.5 on the 27th

[balmy condor]

doomed

[sharp viper]

26.5 on 27th goes hard

[humble verge]

bro is logging in the past

[tropic jewel]

for me since i didnt went to bed its stell the day before 😄

[golden loom]

hate us cause they aint us

[sharp viper]

that is how dates work frfr

[wary light]

real and true up until recently my pc was too shit to livelog so didn't even bother

[humble verge]

time to go buy bekfest

[golden loom]

shorts in 17 degrees?

I guess if its not windy its fine but here atleast theres like a storm going on so I would never

[subtle tundra]

whats a bekfest

i need icecream...

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor yooo gz on kill

we probs do it on sunday

and then the speech+removals happen

[inland dirge]

who is the freak that we’re tossing peanuts at @balmy condor

[red schooner]

Speech and removals?

[balmy condor]

gally

[tawny rapids]

With the void bugg would you reccomend gushing for Mugzee progress / kill

[royal lantern]

if we kill it on sunday, we probs dropped like 800worldranks

which is like

yeha slightly oof

and in huge parts its from many people slacking off

we STILL have guys running around with multiple 1/8Mythic pieces

just not doing anything at all

no raid prep, no gearing, just log in ->suck at the raid->log out and dont play until next raid

which is not really acceptable

[golden loom]

1/8 myth track pieces and like 3% raid buff? sounds like heaven

[royal lantern]

when you pull gally for the first time and 4 people ask "why does he start in P3??? is it bugged????"

yeha

[red schooner]

Even the RFWL guild I'm in said "listen, just get your upgrades done, do some m+ or something"

[humble verge]

going to the store and back into my chair again bruh

[red schooner]

Had like a 3 week limit for getting all your things upgrade post cap removal

[royal lantern]

bro we have like 7people that constantly complained about m+ trinkets in vault

and now sit at 2,7k score and refuse to do all +12 for the dinar vendor

[balmy condor]

unironically gear is so much of a non-issue now it's hilarious

[royal lantern]

its mindblowing

[red schooner]

So nothing super exacting but at least some kind of benchmark

[royal lantern]

more about the attitude tbh

not the gear itself

[red schooner]

Ye 12s are easy AF now

[balmy condor]

corruption + rep is like 15% or something without anything turbo

shit is insane

[wary light]

Anyone here got a decent vod of them as assa rogue doing OAB myth 5 coin strat? We did 6 on our kill but it's our first reclear today

[balmy condor]

getting +6 ilvl on all my crafted gear is 2%

[rotund oak]

ilvl significant

[royal lantern]

its just the ussual case of

half the raid tries to do most thinfs possible, does m+ and constantly ask if others still need their weeklys

other half only does 4 keys a week since week3, gooble up all the mythic raid loot and then dont do anything with it

[golden loom]

idk having all this gear and bonus damage just makes me appreciate how big psychos the race to world first people are

[grim jay]

The gear thing would probably be me if I would need to raid rn

Turbo is turbo shit

For busy people

[rotund oak]

welcome to the loot sink

99% of the guilds are like that

[royal lantern]

its just so extreme this tier.and we are the same people lol

just half of them suddebky dont give a fuck

[golden loom]

my last 5 vaults have been:
4 sockets and today I took hero track helmet for transmog

[rotund oak]

i only get sockets and idgaf either

my mage doenst rly need anything anyway

[golden loom]

so I have not had any M+ motivation outside of turboboost which made me run 30 keys in 2 days and was a blast

[rotund oak]

unless i start myth raiding

[potent raven]

how disgusting are these visions

[grim jay]

Relatable, wouldve been a blast if I had that time

[potent raven]

2 blood coagulate for a full clear

[royal lantern]

not at all?

oh yeha that

[rotund oak]

well yeah thats visions

[royal lantern]

go and give blizz those participation numbers :3

[golden loom]

luckily the thursday or friday I cant remember was a bank holiday

[balmy condor]

Have to do 4 runs

And then it unlocks everything

Not that bad

[rotund oak]

ill craft them mounts and be done with visions

[royal lantern]

you see, another thing is

we have 3 people that sit at 6% rep buff

[golden loom]

the 4 runs also take like 20 min total

[grim jay]

Gf wants to do things on days off

[golden loom]

I do not have that problem Aware

[worthy fable]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5UQ9TwxHai38UKDaEG7erk Why am I simming so low?

2.6M with almost bis gear feels off

[golden loom]

well its normal

[buoyant herald]

assassination is why

[rotund oak]

because nelf

[buoyant herald]

literally lowest simming dps spec what you gonna do

[rotund oak]

xd

[grim jay]

Feels off for what reason is the more important question

[subtle tundra]

only thing i pull at that point is the noose tight

[rotund oak]

varas typing take cover

or nvm

[grim jay]

Whats a noose

I dont wanna google

[buoyant herald]

it's an extra long nose

[rotund oak]

like moose

[subtle tundra]

study english

[grim jay]

Dang, guess he is lucky that its not a nooose

[grim jay]

I do speak the other world language

[sharp viper]

👃

[inland dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-peanuts-monkey-throwing-peanuts-peanuts-gif-14695467931486312219

[sharp viper]

which one is that?

[subtle tundra]

lose yourself in the music

[grim jay]

Love

[sharp viper]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ragoney-kiss-gay-agoneyot-raoulot-gif-11256865

[potent raven]

me and whispyr

[grim jay]

I recently hit that low where I dont know what to listen to

[subtle tundra]

hand off

[rotund oak]

too late

[sharp viper]

you wish, pyr

[subtle tundra]

purrr

[grim jay]

Its me and Whispyr when he next visits his grandma

[golden loom]

a what now

we do not do drugs in gods house

[rotund oak]

in gods what

[sharp viper]

maybe he meant @gusty mirage code on

[grim jay]

In whose house?

[rotund oak]

confusion

[golden loom]

Di di di di di di did I stutter?

[tawny rapids]

@balmy condor can you confirm void is still bugged ? Is it worth me getting gushing today for mugzee prog. Final phase now so hopefully the kill ❤️

[grim jay]

You can confirm it yourself

[golden loom]

hmm I wonder what the pins say

[grim jay]

By just reading the damn pins

[royal lantern]

pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins

[feral mason]

please pin me

[sharp viper]

oh did that drug message get deleted

[tawny rapids]

That pin is 5 days old and thought there might have been an update since The patch came out

[novel arrow]

Is there any way to modify my simC data to change item level of items?

[tawny rapids]

But no worries will do it

[novel arrow]

I want to theoretically have a different item level

[golden loom]

it was re-pinned with this

[subtle tundra]

just fucking get gushing if youre unsure the enchant is 2% dps or whatever, getting a "worse" one is 0.1 WHO FUCKING CARES

[grim jay]

Its edited and says STILL

[red schooner]

Om top gear you can upgrade ilvls of items if that helps

[feral mason]

i am the one who cares

[subtle tundra]

you can always get the slightly better one later for that sweet .2% dps i can assure you, you will kill the boss regardless of your enchant

[subtle tundra]

my ass your cock

[feral mason]

I need all the dps I can get to help my guildies get their 13s done

[grim jay]

You mean wont kill

[feral mason]

It isnt looking good i cant lie

[potent raven]

hi

[feral mason]

I do love that you can literally time 10s with 1 tank and a dps now though

ever since i became social raid leader these goobers abuse me for keys

ego boost though so its fine

[native turret]

is 1.8m ST pretty ass for bosses in M+? (hybrid)

[sharp viper]

I just saw that gushing wound can be parried

[feral mason]

doomed

[red schooner]

Social raid leader is like trying to herd cats, coming from someone who occasionally raid leads the drunk Friday social raid

[grim jay]

Depends on length and CDs

But seems fine

[native turret]

candle king, 3:03 one set of cd's

[red schooner]

Fuckin' mine allocation on sprocket is fucked because you're trying to find the few people who can both do mines and aren't too drunk by that point

[feral mason]

i love them though but doing gallywix with em makes me drink

its a vibe

[red schooner]

We had to bench some of the socials on heroic gally just to get it down for the social raid, because several DPS dying instantly makes the boss somewhat tricky

One man fell into the hole in the first minute three times in a row

[feral mason]

yeaahh the old raid leader got bonked because he did a bit too many of those tryhard antics

im trying to be the opposite but

its definitely not ideal

[red schooner]

The only plus side to raid leading it is that by the time we hit sub 50, the people left alive were the ones who could follow tactics

[feral mason]

really dont want to kick anyone but it feels necessary almost

my eyes lit up when I saw that nerf post yesterday

And then it was literally useless

[red schooner]

We had to, some of the social raiders are.... Something else

Legit sprocket on social raid I'm going through the list like, "nope, you're not getting given a mine cos you won't do it" about 5 times

[feral mason]

you give out mines?

ok maybe i have competent people

[red schooner]

Yeah

[feral mason]

[red schooner]

Because otherwise the maniacs will pop all of them at the same time

[feral mason]

all my goons are on discord

[red schooner]

So we had to implement a "if you're name ain't on the list, DON'T POP" rule

[red schooner]

So are mine

I don't know how I got roped into social raid leading

But I regret my choices

[feral mason]

i like it its fine

plus i might get reclear privileges for it without needing to raid

[red schooner]

It can be fun but sometimes it gives me an aneurysm

[balmy condor]

Corruptions

Reposted because people don’t trust that the pins are updated, can’t check the edit date, don’t get notifications on re-pins, don’t read any edits, and I literally cannot do anything about it other than make a new pin for a new timestamp or just add hourly updating timestamps

PLEASE JUST BELIEVE ME THE PIN WILL UPDATE IF THERES CHANGES I PROMISE YOU PEOPLE WOULD BLOW MY SHIT UP IF ITS WRONG PLEASE I BEG JUST GET ANY OF THE BELOW RECOMMENDED CORRUPTION

Echoing void is still bugged and underperforming for some people (even after a hotfix it does seem to be fine every now and then but just avoid it and run something else, all the corruptions are close)

Gushing wounds seems good as a single target use

Twilight Devastation has been doing good in m+ but has a lot of rng and some people have mentioned accidentally pulling with it

void ritual is a decent overall pick
The system is infinitely farmable, greaters are out this week, read about all the things here

[golden loom]

Varas typing.. if its not a meow..

[visual sun]

whispyr of head enchant pog

[red schooner]

I give it 10 minutes before someone asks if it's bugged

[subtle tundra]

🪤

[twin bay]

hahaha i was wondering why the pin disappeared mid readding xd

[feral mason]

Idk if people are actually experiencing the twilight dev ninjapulling thing but I said that as a joke in outlaw

Havent actually seen it happen

[balmy condor]

I’ve seen it happen

Please leave me alone about these dogshit ass corruptions

I am so fucking sick of this shit

[red schooner]

Hopefully the belt is less of a mess to deal with

[solid hemlock]

does anyone know if the pins are updated?

[native turret]

you heard the man leave him tf alone

[solid hemlock]

[royal lantern]

fall into mincecraft lava

[balmy condor]

How much can a community brainrot over half a dozen options that are all 2% dps

[subtle tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453328504134565888/1375901903615168602/I_remember_why_i_hated_bfa.mp4?ex=6837fd40&is=6836abc0&hm=603e4428a84b8ee6ea2d94d90bd6fdef5b32e8e82f2a79c408db5795909772a7&

[balmy condor]

This game is a social experiment

[humble verge]

WHISPYR, WHAT CORRUPTION AM I PICKING? CAN YOU CHOOSE FOR ME? WHATS BIS FOR ST, WHATS FOR M+, WHATS FOR RAID, WHATS FOR DELVES, WHATS FOR MY ASS LICKING BANANA SPLIT MAHOJUSADJASJDUASDJUS

[balmy condor]

I swear

[pliant remnant]

whispyr please tell me i can use twilight dev otherwise my push week is dead

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-iconic-editing-photoshop-gif-4002248308351179086

[subtle tundra]

thats a guildie

[native turret]

thats comedy gold

[feral mason]

shouldve asked it nicely to not pull

it listens to me personally

[subtle tundra]

yeah rude of him tbh

[strange oxide]

is echoing void still bugged? does anyone know?

[native turret]

and god said this shall be added to the pull

[feral mason]

send him to new jersey

[red schooner]

It wasn't even 10 minutes

[humble verge]

[native turret]

hit him

[humble verge]

hes been typing for a minute

[rotund oak]

now i feel old and lab rat

[red schooner]

We getting slowmoded boys

[royal lantern]

*pooling mode

[humble verge]

i wonder if hes answering my dumb inquire

[native turret]

we are stuck in single target hell

[humble verge]

hes still typing

https://tenor.com/view/narwhal-dave-narwhal-dave-reaction-dave-reaction-my-honest-reaction-narwhal-dave-ggx-reaction-gif-3562114691356356912

[native turret]

we are fucked

[rotund oak]

someone is getting nuked

if its me i love you guys

[native turret]

we will miss you sapzilla

[feral mason]

i hope its ryu

[humble verge]

im 100% sure its me

[rotund oak]

[native turret]

🫂

[golden loom]

should just do stuff like the osrs gear discord, fuck numbers

[humble verge]

me when i scim

[rotund oak]

damn the man surely types alot

[balmy condor]

Like I actually can’t understand it anymore man, they all do similar damage except the bugged one, I say hey it’s bugged, take any of the other ones that aren’t bugged, it gets hotfixed, it’s still bugged, I say hey it’s still bugged, new week rolls around, people ask if it’s still bugged, I update pin yes it’s still bugged, I change the pin FIVE TIMES IN A DAY AND REPIN AND CHANGE AND STILL AND YES AND GREATER AND STILL BUG

Nothing to do, I am simply floating in the riptide. Nothing this expansion has gotten the same, exact, fucking, identical question over and over and over like this corruption bullshit and it’s literally just meaningless fomo shit that’s worth nothing and they all do nearly the same stupid damage and I JUST NEED PEOPLE TO PICK LITERALLY ANYTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU PEOPLE DRIVE ME INSANE WHY WONT YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING OR READ ANYTHING IM LITERALLY SPOON-FEEDING YOU

Fuck this expansion

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

Fuck corruptions

Fuck you

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-jockey-minecraft-minecraft-movie-get-this-man-gif-11284304472084745398

[feral mason]

This looks like a talent loadout import code, new build confirmed?

[native turret]

[humble verge]

would

[twin bay]

[humble verge]

do not post cumge

in my discord chat

[feral mason]

[native turret]

yes sir

[red schooner]

Hopefully the belt is just a single option and doesn't generate the same level of nonsense (idk how the belt works I've not looked into it)

[balmy condor]

I honest to god wish I could just /kick people who don’t open pins

[feral mason]

ahaahaa

[balmy condor]

Fuck off

Get some literacy

[native turret]

who wont let you

[balmy condor]

Come back later

You actual waste of air

[subtle tundra]

learn to be human pls

[feral mason]

The belt is literally the same as these corruptions

[native turret]

i know its not directed at me but im gonna cry

[subtle tundra]

have some empathy whispar

[feral mason]

Easily switchable effects that are probably all close to eachother

[balmy condor]

Fuck you varas

[feral mason]

im so sorry in advance

[red schooner]

Just add a quiz based on the pins that you have to answer before you can type in here

[distant helm]

hey whispyyr is the pin up to date

[native turret]

or put if you ask about something in pins you get kicked for a week

[balmy condor]

How would I even do that

[humble verge]

whispyr how does caustic spatter work

[red schooner]

Idk I have no clue what mod tools discord has

[native turret]

@humble verge stand on mugzee between jails

[humble verge]

i wanted whisp to answer ffs

stealing his job

[native turret]

mb

[subtle tundra]

thats good. any emotion contributes to being a human with empathy

youre on the right path

now fuck me fr ass to ass

[native turret]

ass to ass to mouth

[viscid spear]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Is this the new Talent Build that works with Echoing Void?

[native turret]

im already using it in a +17

[humble verge]

he is typing again

[viscid spear]

Oh did they fix the bug?

[native turret]

yep,

[subtle tundra]

youre fucking

[native turret]

lmao

[balmy condor]

When you join you’re asked to pick rolls and it says in big letters read the pins and faq please, the channel category says check the pins, we are using a discord server in 2025 and you show up and you want to ask the MOST OBVIOUS question imaginable

These people are unstoppable

We are powerless to stop people from just showing up

And asking the most dumbfuck things imaginable

Free will is too strong

[native turret]

this discord doesnt have the "Click this if you're not a bot", that would take care of half those people

[feral mason]

we have lost the impact of shame on our society

[native turret]

instaban

[red schooner]

Okay ye that's fair enough. (I forgot what I clicked on when I joined anyhow so that slipped my mind)

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah but think about how many times a herbie shows up

And is just like

Hey I want mastery???

[viscid spear]

I'm stilla New Member somehow

[native turret]

and crit and haste

maybe a lil vers as a treat

[royal lantern]

and some vers

[feral mason]

autofilter the c-word (corruption)

[balmy condor]

How do you stumble into here knowing that discord exists, knowing rogue discord exists, fully unaware that you’re asking a stupid fucking question

Like I cannot understand how people can confidently open this app

Join a server

[native turret]

i got a rogue buddy that still asks me the most basic rogue shit and hes in here

like he has seen the pins

[balmy condor]

And just proudly go “hey give me the absolute basic”

How does one learn to do that

[humble verge]

im surprised i joined this discord when i was raiding in ToS but i didnt talk here before tww

[native turret]

im not even good but i did learn to read in 10th grade

[red schooner]

Ye, finding the guide was easier than finding the discord

[rotund oak]

arrogance

[subtle tundra]

hey man give people a break

[viscid spear]

join Class Discord
see Spec Channel
hey, I play that spec!
let's ask a question

[rotund oak]

thats hwo

[native turret]

ashcat stop making sense

pls

[subtle tundra]

they might have 7 children, 3 wives, 1.25 jobs
they need a quick answer

[viscid spear]

I know, I'm off today

[native turret]

but they forget this exists

[maiden sierra]

me loving the chaos:

[distant helm]

thats nice and all but can you tell me what corruption to run now

[native turret]

run DN corruption

[subtle tundra]

bruh they cant open pin and you expect search function usage?

fuck off

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/pergant-pregernant-pergent-gif-8183353

[native turret]

DN corruption for u too buddy

[subtle tundra]

i wanna suck your tits

[native turret]

damn

hmu

dms are open

[balmy condor]

Idk, every now and then I just lose all faith in humanity, I’ll sleep and be okay but Jesus fucking god damnit man I just cannot understand, my brain actually hurts trying to imagine all the steps one needs to take, all the voices in one’s head saying “hey is this stupid? This feels stupid, maybe I should check and make sure this isn’t stupid”, and then still deciding to be stupid

[maiden sierra]

@balmy condor

[viscid spear]

Pretty sure this is how Whispyr sees all the questions

[south drum]

We all very much apricate you and all that you do 🙂 We will rally the troops and hold the line with copiuse spam of check the pins gifs, too keep the masses at bay while you rest

[viscid spear]

POV: you just joined Ravenholdt and the prompt is asking you to check out the FAQ and pins

[native turret]

apricate?

fuck he cant read

[subtle tundra]

theres a subreddit i love
its romanian men talking and its the most entertaining stuff ever
yesterday there was a post about someone making a custom doll -> oh cool -> nvm its silliocone and it has pussy and everything
some other guy commented to praise him, i open his profile and he has a life sized Ahri sex doll that he says has better sex with than a real woman

[red schooner]

I get it to an extent, because some people use class discords as a glorified Google, and it's just... Idk, Google it.

[royal lantern]

what

varas

[subtle tundra]

losing faith in humanity

[native turret]

lets ignore he said that

[royal lantern]

???????

[humble verge]

what the fuck

[native turret]

u still have time to delete that

[royal lantern]

???????????

[humble verge]

pacers is leading 3-1 in the ECF

[viscid spear]

The guy has to actually have sex with real women before he can make that comparison

[golden loom]

I hope they can stomp OKC

but its fked for sure

[subtle tundra]

i did take a screenshot

[native turret]

what is "sex"?

i just play rogue on wow

[golden loom]

im so sad nuggets lost to okc... i dont wanna watch anymore

[subtle tundra]

i hope whispyr reads this to make him feel better!

[native turret]

sex with a woman once and it was mid, maybe if he didnt pay her...

[golden loom]

well someone got filtered

[viscid spear]

im so happy knicks lost to ind... i still dont wanna watch

[feral mason]

pissers in 5

[subtle tundra]

not me this time

[south drum]

I had a funny reply typed out but it got removed for being mean to my self

[royal lantern]

thats why you should fuck Man instead

[subtle tundra]

word

[viscid spear]

Then you can go get a beer together afterwards

[grim jay]

Same and on me its even funnier

[native turret]

ashcat do you want to meet us for a drink after me and tyran have mid sex

[viscid spear]

Can I watch or do I have to sit in the Cuck Chair?

[native turret]

both preferably

watch from cuck chair

[hollow dirge]

anyone knows if pin on head enchants is up to date?

[viscid spear]

But someone's already sitting there

[native turret]

holy fuck

[hollow dirge]

[native turret]

[native turret]

who, we'll add more chairs

[grim jay]

One day Whispyr will do what I would do

[native turret]

quit wow?

ban everyone?

[grim jay]

And ban everyone trying to troll after an outrage

[hollow dirge]

where's the fun in that

[subtle tundra]

.............................

fuck you

why ban me

[grim jay]

Banning people definitely is fun

[viscid spear]

me and the boys watching the manliest fuck session ever

[native turret]

your reddit post you saved to share with us is a good reason for ban

[humble verge]

[native turret]

why wont emote work, pepecool

[grim jay]

You are crazy enough to a point where noone knows if you are trolling or not.

[hollow dirge]

depends, banning somebody trolling on a yearly basis will hardly get your hard on 😄

[viscid spear]

[subtle tundra]

i am certainly not well

uhghgm i really want kfc and ice cream

[native turret]

i had popeyes yesterday

[golden loom]

I have a 4 day weekend im gonna drink all the beer

[native turret]

spicy

[golden loom]

holy moly

[subtle tundra]

......

[viscid spear]

I can't find any Busch Apple, I'm sad

[subtle tundra]

why is first of june on a fucking sunday

[native turret]

because fuck u

[golden loom]

whats special about first of june

[subtle tundra]

no work

[native turret]

its when government pays him

[subtle tundra]

but its on a sunday

so it doesnt matter...

[golden loom]

oh we have the first of may off

but not june

[subtle tundra]

we also have first of may

its children's day

on june

[golden loom]

and tomorrow is ascension day

[native turret]

childrens day hold up

[subtle tundra]

its a fun day for children

[golden loom]

so since its on a thursday, I just put in a holiday-day on friday aswell

[viscid spear]

[golden loom]

thats me praying today that we make some prog on gally..

[native turret]

we made it to intermission on gally last night

where r u guys

[golden loom]

having tank issues

[subtle tundra]

when we have a free day on tuesday/thursday we usually get the monday/friday free aswell cause we chill

[native turret]

yea one of our tanks likes to fuckin DIE

[golden loom]

well its more that dps players are dying to the adds cause they arent picked up

[native turret]

hehehehe

i saw our evoker get threat on all the adds once

[golden loom]

idk I dont wanna talk about it, hopefully its solved today and we do stuff

[native turret]

he went down faster than a sack of bricks

[golden loom]

what the frick

[native turret]

and gallywix is EU boss, goes counter-clockwise

eu gets it all

free days and boss

[golden loom]

im eu aswell

[native turret]

o

[golden loom]

do americans even get public holidays

[native turret]

nice to meet u eu friend

yes

we had memorial day yesterday

well, monday

[golden loom]

oh nice

[native turret]

and we get other stuff not as much as you guys

New Year's Day, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Presidents' Day, Memorial Day, Juneteenth, Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day

we usually get those off

[golden loom]

last year there was the maximum red-days possible I think

like everything just lined up..

[cursive orchid]

you don't have to work on a saturday to make up for those instead?

[golden loom]

working on a weekend?

[subtle tundra]

nope!

[native turret]

but we also dont get mental health days and we get very limited vacation

[maiden sierra]

@balmy condor i cant find the corruption pin, can you make a new post linking to the corruption post and pin that

[subtle tundra]

what the fuck is a mental health day

[cursive orchid]

for us those days are moved 😦

[native turret]

when u dont feel like doing shit and rather off urself than work

[subtle tundra]

i have 21 days of vacay

[native turret]

u should be getting mental health days, i seen your posts

[golden loom]

my saldo of vacation days this year was 36 🙂

and its my 2nd year working full time

[subtle tundra]

ofc you take random extended weekend vacation you have 36

out of those 21, 15 are in august for me this year

[golden loom]

I think theres a bug in the system somewhere

[native turret]

i worked in retail before and there was people there so long that every 4 days they worked they got almost a full 8 hours of vacation, so some people literally never worked a friday ever

[golden loom]

I think I should have 30 but got 36

[golden loom]

I have split it up so I have 2 seperate weeks in june and then 14.7-29.7

then saving like 10 days for winter vacation

[viscid spear]

We get New Year's and Christmas off.
Thanksgiving we get to go home 2 hours early.
Then we have MLK Day, Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day as "you have to work a normal day but you get Holiday pay".

[lost wharf]

Which stat do we want our Signet to give? Because right now I think I'm a breaking point, where it could give crit and I should probably recraft my gear to haste/mastery instead of crit/mastery, but then I was unsure if we might want crit aswell?

[golden loom]

u want it to give mastery

[red schooner]

We want mastery from it

[lost wharf]

So I gotta get more sims in and see if I can make it work

[buoyant herald]

what a banger pin that is

[lost wharf]

I have Flickering Glowtorc and Ring of Perpetual Conflict in my vault which each would replace crit/mastery crafted items in that slot, but each sim as a dps downgrade, presumably coz of the change in highest stat

[twin bay]

sadge

[peak lake]

Well i guess im gonna use bullion for outlaw spec now
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eF5vySKnyE3B1GnKMqRTUT

[subtle tundra]

id rather not use it at all

[lost wharf]

Is Vicious Venoms no upgrade for you?

[peak lake]

havent tryed since peacemaker

but anyway on the raid i prefer MA

[lost wharf]

Shouldn't MA be even lower value, since you have more crit from pacemaker?

[potent raven]

echoing void sims highest on st

but assuming its bugged tf do i take

void ritual?

[potent raven]

holy fck ur gear lol

[pliant remnant]

Thank god he's not here

[potent raven]

i cba

i checked pins

i js dk

what to take

[tight sparrow]

Someone please ping Whisper, i am too afraid to do it

[potent raven]

letgs try echoing void see if its really bugged

[red schooner]

Let the man sleep

[sharp viper]

[scarlet orbit]

Bladflurry hitting dead targets since mop begs the differ

[peak lake]

na ma still bis

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9oYbatBV78P9yzY65tXUPG

[golden loom]

I mean on pure ST sure

But for cleave VV will be better

[potent raven]

blizz has like one job

can they not hire normal devs ever

[golden loom]

So idk about playing MA on stuff other than sprocket

[potent raven]

its so insane how theres a new bug each update

how is it so hard to get things right

[fossil falcon]

Guys, the sim tells me that Kazzan is better than peacemaker for me, do you think should i take it from the vault? (heroic)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/khYZDYyJbQpm7t9oswNYyp

[potent raven]

i mean do u raid

its good if u raid or, if you have a team w/ a tank that chainpulls. so u dont lose ur stacks

xd idk

[fossil falcon]

Oh ok, eitherway its not that good

[potent raven]

it is

but what are the other options

why is it hc

[plush iris]

haven't played for a lil, is bleed or hybrid best in m+?

or still equal

[sharp viper]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[orchid pewter]

Depends on the key you are doing

[fossil falcon]

Cause that s my vault 😦 Only did 2 first mithic bosses

Other options are trash

[potent raven]

but dungeons?

[fossil falcon]

trash, nothing good

[potent raven]

my fcking gear is so trash

[fossil falcon]

GL!

[plush iris]

ye im doing higher keys so ill stick to hybrid

talents still aight?

[orchid pewter]

Yes

No garrote build is also really nice

Became my go to

[plush iris]

huh

what's the benefits of running no garrote?

[fossil falcon]

Why the say its much harder to play?

[shrewd night]

!warn @potent raven Dont circumvent the word filter.

[orchid pewter]

its not

[spice surge]

Only thing is that if you dont get to ambush out of stealth you get fucked

[fossil falcon]

Or getting a DN ready i suppose?

[orchid pewter]

you have no leeway with ambush on pull i guess yea

[spice surge]

Obviously assuming you dont have DN

[orchid pewter]

and you have to play high enough keys where your target lives through your cds

[fossil falcon]

Oh ok, thx

[potent raven]

gg was going 7mil until after 2nd boss

then shaman gets aggro cuz he starts doing his rotation b4 my tank pulls and we all wipe

also yeah echoing void is 100% bugged

it says it has 0 uptime too wtf

[grim jay]

How can naming go so wrong

[orchid pewter]

?

[grim jay]

Why not call it the "insert talent you take that you usually dont build" or something along those lines instead of saying "no garrote" which is factually wrong because you still have garrote and still use it under x circumstance, while just not having the talents

Even calling it zeross build makes more sense, if its his creation

[orchid pewter]

bro who cares

[grim jay]

Language

[subtle tundra]

well calling it no garrote might be misinterpreted as not using garrote

when you clearly do

[orchid pewter]

every thing can be misinterpreted if you dont call it: the build where you sometimes garrote almost always only on st

[red schooner]

Why is it called hybrid build when I'm not powered by both gasoline and electric

[orchid pewter]

cleave

misleading

zerross, who the fuck is he

no garrote

wrong

as long as people get what is meant who cares

[grim jay]

Different Hybrid

[subtle tundra]

cleave
zeross
cant be misinterpreted

[grim jay]

As varas said some dont

[orchid pewter]

it can tho, you cleave on all builds

because all builds take spatter

you just cleave more on that specific build

ill call it the less garrote build i guess

[red schooner]

Sir don't bring logic into this, the garf nullifies logic

[orchid pewter]

mb

[red schooner]

[subtle tundra]

i dont understand your thinking

[grim jay]

You ST more on the ST build and can still aoe

Is it wrong to call it a single target build?

Same for aoe

It still follows a certain logic

That the build is better at whatever it got named after

[fossil falcon]

Isnt it better to call it Force Induction build? XD

[grim jay]

The garf is just a mood

[grim jay]

It is indeed

[subtle tundra]

i would call it that

[grim jay]

I do say FI build aswell

[fossil falcon]

Nice ahah

[nova aspen]

updated pin

[rotund oak]

until the very last person asks for a corruption update

😂

[little tulip]

found out im using garrote too much

sigh

[rotund oak]

eating icecream

parfait choco,vanilla,strawberry

please continue

[little tulip]

it's like..if they grab a second pack i think waiting for garrote to run down on the original targets before ic reapplying

is what i should be doing

[rotund oak]

well in case they chain pull or about they

as in u are suspecting the tank of being

you know

i just hold my cps for a bit and ic rup first

if i have the stacks

i ct

[little tulip]

ye ive been running keys with fellow assassin homie and he wins on trash only diffy is better sanguine blades application and i send more garrotes so

[rotund oak]

and gar gar again

[little tulip]

it's a lot of energy and doesn't do much maybe just vanish rupture if im gona play like you know :y

[rotund oak]

yup

sounds more reasonable

bleed build is about bleeding them out

every possible way

[shrewd night]

Cant believe we havent gotten a pin about major corruptions yet

What is purpman even doing

[marble hemlock]

is the most recent pin up2date? been a while since it was updated

[red schooner]

Pls, not all of us are immune to slowmode

[shrewd night]

Skill diff

[marble hemlock]

truly

[red schooner]

[spice surge]

The purpetrator

[royal lantern]

idk, maybe you should ping whisp and ask

[marble hemlock]

nah, the man has gotten enough shit already this week

id rather wanna give him a hug at this point

[red schooner]

Let him rest before the same thing happens with the belt

[royal lantern]

i forgot that thing

oh man

[red schooner]

It never ends

[hidden bay]

its crazy

if i would check Felhammer

easy 5 pins

[arctic socket]

Is there a corruption pin? I don’t see anything but I see a lot of talk

All I see

[spice surge]

Mobile discord being weird

[frigid kestrel]

@toxic rose

[spice surge]

There is one yes

[arctic socket]

I think you tagged the wrong person

But thank you

[arctic socket]

Goats

[nova aspen]

🐐

[subtle tundra]

thanks man i always knew i am

[nova aspen]

meow?

[frigid kestrel]

oops i think i did

[grim jay]

You are a goat

Not the goat

[supple spindle]

hey, someone dropped a route for the fastest way possible to farm out the greater corruptions. what was it again?

[bold nimbus]

just do all masks then for example I had 7/8 so I did 2 masks last "round"

[viscid spear]

What do you mean farm out?
Just do 4 runs and make sure you do the two harder zones each time. The currency drops like rain

[red schooner]

From what someone in my guild said, do Rexxar and Geya'rah, then run out of bounds and die

Quickest way to just get the enchants

[supple spindle]

thanks my dude

[viscid spear]

Why are people always in a rush

[red schooner]

I don't like visions but I must do visions else the raid leader hits me

[supple spindle]

i hate this game with every fiber of my soul, but i still show up to raid

[red schooner]

So I find the path of least resistance

[supple spindle]

gotta be prepared at least

[grim jay]

I like being fast with stuff I dont like

[viscid spear]

Guess it's because we stopped raiding

[red schooner]

The prog never ends for me

[grim jay]

Even if you kill gally?

[red schooner]

But ye I don't do m+ anymore because I don't get anything from it.

[grim jay]

Score

[viscid spear]

I should find an actual Mythic raiding guild next expac.
We only do AotC and then wait

[red schooner]

Knowing my guild we either won't kill it or we'll kill it one day before next raid

For the cycle to repeat again

[viscid spear]

Anyone looking for a gooner Rogue?

[grim jay]

Most guilds dont look for 2 rogues

So you probably wont find smth in here

[haughty flicker]

guys are we sure the pin is updated

[viscid spear]

Anyone afraid of a Rogue replacing them?

[haughty flicker]

maybe i should ping whispyr and ask to maek sure

[supple spindle]

i dare you try it

do it.

[red schooner]

Yeah it's great. Got like 130 crests, all my gear is maxed, stones are capped, my last 2 updates I can just use dinars

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/itskatchii-katchii-ban-unban-unban-requests-gif-14962171161821442936

[red schooner]

I'm so close to being able to raid log

[grim jay]

There is a life hack going around

If you just dont raid, you dont need to do anything

[red schooner]

I like raid though

If I didn't like raiding I just wouldn't log in probably

[haughty flicker]

i was about to but then i realized he'd probably stop giving me maplestory advice and im too dumb to figure stuff out on my own

[supple spindle]

maplewho

[haughty flicker]

i'd log in for the first couple weeks of a patch then quit

[shy axle]

do you bind hoc to kingsbane due to the duration or just f it and still dm?

[haughty flicker]

i enjoy collecting and stuff but wtf do people who dont raid do in this game for months at a time

[spice surge]

DM

[red schooner]

That's what I did last 2 expansions, didn't touch group content, just did solo stuff

It was pretty chill

[shy axle]

ty

[spice spire]

Sent dm

[spice surge]

Yet another dick pic

[spice spire]

Leaking me

Damn

[subtle tundra]

youre a sheep

[potent raven]

wow not getting invited to pugs

miss my mage now

[grim jay]

Just have more rio

Or progress

[potent raven]

nah

they need meta comp to time a 14 bro

u dont get it

need a mage dk and druid otherwise cant time

XD

[cyan trellis]

Yeah people are cooked for meta comp I see like 12s with LF UHDK

[potent raven]

yup

[cyan trellis]

It's like brother what are you doing

[potent raven]

literal braindamage

it doesnt even matter until 20s prob

comps dont matter like barely

lol

[royal lantern]

"+7 need Aug" last season was a classic

[cyan trellis]

I feel like if you're outside title range who gives a shit

[potent raven]

its a bit tilting

[cyan trellis]

I kinda see it for cc purposes though

[potent raven]

cuz id outdamage all those uhdks they take instead of me

but whatever

[cyan trellis]

For pugs like I have a hard time taking some other ppl with not much cc

[static glacier]

got a new take

who gives a shit in general

people out here depleting keys for 60 hours to get a title

people out here paying for bragging rights

[potent raven]

shoulda played rogue from start of szn

i fotm'd to uhdk and hated it

[cyan trellis]

I doing understand blizz with m+

[potent raven]

2 button spec crazy 2 me

[cyan trellis]

3k you get a mount cool

[static glacier]

they need to make higher keys actually rewarding

and not just garbage cosmetics

[cyan trellis]

Then literally nothing unless you're 0.1%

It's just weird

[royal lantern]

and how?

[static glacier]

like if all +18s gave myth track loot on demand

[royal lantern]

lol

[static glacier]

rwf would be up in flames

[royal lantern]

mate, that doesnt work for so many reasons

[static glacier]

but it would offer a real incentive for pushing

[potent raven]

the only incentive is title rn so yea true

[grim jay]

As long as you dont get anything exclusive, it wont be rewarding enough. If you get something exclusive, people will complain.

[potent raven]

but thats a bit busted

[spice surge]

I mean it could allow you to purchase the dinar things

[cyan trellis]

I would go for cosmetic stuff idec

[static glacier]

idk about others but for me I genuinely don't care about that kinda thing, I want character power

[cyan trellis]

Like a baby title

[static glacier]

maybe class transmog sets

[cyan trellis]

Or even more mount recolors

[static glacier]

like mop challenge modes

id be down

but if im gonna sink 100s of hours and repeatedly depleting for a fucking title

like bruh

[royal lantern]

first of all, blizz wants mythic gear to be a slow progress

and 2nd, you think the m+ community, some of the worst whiny children in gaming that complain about EVERYTHING not beeing handed to them for timing a +11 key, would think its ok for "blizz gatekeeping FUN in OVERTUNED IMPOSSIBLE +18 KEYS"?

they would cry 24/7 until blizz makes it avaible in +10 mate

[static glacier]

any kind of prestige that kind of thing has is massively devalued by the fact that its boostable

[spice surge]

Very few people are actually doing it for the title though

The title is just the excuse to play more wow

[grim jay]

Well ngl, people sinking in 100s of hours probably like doing so. Its a game, either you enjoy the part or you dont

[static glacier]

like if people enjoy it good for them

I enjoy the game, but super high keys for me are just frustrating since I'll sink 20-30 mins making the group

25 mins in the key itself

[grim jay]

Yeah so you dont enjoy that part, which is fine

[royal lantern]

then dont do it?

[static glacier]

then one fuckup wipes the group pre end boss and people wont complete the key so I dont even get weekly vault out of it

[grim jay]

Doesnt mean there needs to be any incentive

Especially if its one you wont even enjoy

[static glacier]

it's unfair for m+ players, mythic raid has appropriate reward

[grim jay]

Because not many more people would be there

[static glacier]

high m+ doesn't

[vocal lichen]

Myth track not being available besides vault to the game mode that the majority of the player base partakes in is really silly

[static glacier]

issue is it's repeatable

[vocal lichen]

Weekly lockout

[static glacier]

so blizz wont do it bc they will make raiders feel obligated

[grim jay]

Oh no, infinitely farmable content doesnt reward the same ilvl as once a week stuff

What are we gonna do

[static glacier]

read my above message

[royal lantern]

mythic raids are absolute dogshit i rewards mate lol

[static glacier]

idk about you guys, I have m+ only friends who hate raiding

and they are resentful about it

[grim jay]

The majority of the playerbase doesnt even do m+ or heroic raids

[cyan trellis]

I mean people got title last season with heroic track spymasters and stuff

[haughty flicker]

and there are raid only players who hate m+ but do it weekly for vault

[cyan trellis]

So I don't think it's like a requirement to get all mythic level gear to get title

[haughty flicker]

if you want the most gear you do both

thats just how this game works

[vocal lichen]

They could even timegate it out and put it on a lockout/dinar type system

[grim jay]

Its the right call to have people do ALL of the pve stuff for the best gear

Raiders need to m+ aswell

[static glacier]

they want it to be do what you want and you'll get loot regardless

as it stands that wish isn't really fulfilled

[royal lantern]

the majority of m+ participation is in +10 Keys,which is roughly equal to heroic raids and gives better gear + is endless farmable

the amount of players that push higher then 10-12 keys is really REALLY small mate lol

[static glacier]

there's a certain point where you need raid loot to push keys

[royal lantern]

its not more then mythic raiders

[grim jay]

Its stupid from a game perspective to do so

[royal lantern]

argruably its even lower