#assassination
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erm
lol
We had 216 on OAB and 131 on Mug
just save ur shiv's for adds on gallywix and you'll kill it under 100 pulls
panik
no no this is doable
I am shiving to dispell the enrages!
same
Never get to eat
NOW! quick do it while nobody is looking
u need apple facemask or whatever its called

but I am shit lazy motherfuck
and just use that to watch d4 stream
yeah except I need to be in work call
so
that doesn't work
same, i thawed a frozen chicken sandwich that was meant to be microwaved and ate it cold 
Bruh
is that.....
Tell me it was precooked
healthy
man i have yet to ate today

its precooked
its almost 8pm
based
Brother is doing the salmonella speedrun
but no its not healthy almost certainly 
sometimes when my hotpocket is cold in the middle my brain says that I'm gonna get salmonella and die
u shood cook up some sausages
based

why do hotpockets exist in a binary of either frozen center or liquid fire center
fuck hog
Boiling them instead of grilling them is diabolical
Thats why I have my chicken on the pan for 10 years every time, I aint fucking around with that
u boil wiener dogs right?
Who the frick is doing this
stfu
There's no shot
Item you can buy off the AH made by jewelcrafters
Just search “setting” in the AH
ill keep on posting ig
its the typical problem, the hot pocket will always be too hot or too cold, there can never be a perfect hot pocket
it
East coast US people
Oh hot dogs yeah boiling is legit
And baseball stadiums
Goofy ahh knackkorv
to achieve a perfect hot pocket is to achieve enlightenment
Booooo
käft
No no lol

boiled hot pocket 
i tried cooking a hot pocket in a toaster oven when our microwave broke, the box lies
maybe thats how you get the perfect center
@glacial crypt are we getting tacos n September
boil them
Soft or crispy tacos
I need to book flight
ok but listen to thus
If I’m gonna stop up there
have we been hot pocketing wrong this whole time....?
?
From Italy
People literally boil them worldwide chief
What's happening in September
is the true path of enlightenment to boil the hot pocket....?
I'm in London over the weekend come comic con
I’m gonna be in Europe anyways
my grandma told me she cooked her hot dogs in the microwave if she just wanted them quick, did that for me and - they were okish
For my moms birthday
Fr boiling hot dogs is normal
I always microwave them (or eat cold) cause im lazy
Where abouts in EU? I start year 2 of university in September hehe
Shmeeps the kinda mfer to insist Chicago deep dish is actually pizza
Eating them cold holy shit
💀💀
I mean eating them cold is the most normal thing ever
I have to disagree fam
no shot you raw dog hot dogs
What a terrible day to have eyes or be able to read
Italy for a week then I can kind of do w/e after that. I was thinking about going up to Scotland anyways to golf maybe. Or maybe go find Scana where ever he’s lingering around
just because you can do something doesnt mean you should
we can do it here cause they dont put dogshit stuff in them here
‘Lasagna’
If you're in Scotland lmk and I'll make time for tacos 
Well idk what kind of sausage you have but here its totally fine
yesn't
No 
No I'm sure it's safe it's just, how enjoyable is that?
brother its not about whats in the dog
they taste good cold
its about stuffing a cold piece of flesh in your mouth
Yeah
effort to cook em
I also pronounce purpose as porpoise so I can make a dolphin reference
HUH?
if i just wanna snack em
It’s not the heat of the dog, it’s the amount of dogs in the heat
Based
Or something
oh uh...found out cannibalize works in keys this season..it didn't last season i think...
YES THEY ARE LEGIT A SNACK
not that u should ever be doing that
I think you and Fuu are the only people playing undead anything
Congrats

why be undead when i can be void elf
You just go to the fridge, grab a couple hot dogs and eat em
So happy velf is getting glazed this season
(50% reduced mog cost is the best racial do not @ me)
ive been velf since it came out besides when i pushed keys in s2 df for stoneform
and before that i was belf 😐
i was velf at first then went belf bc i joined a horde guild
Was so upset swapping to gnome last tier on what was my main but literally same
Been velf since razegath
me when i boil my hot dogs (28 michelin star recieved chef, so tuff)
now i could go back to velf but i have multiple transmogs that need horde only gear
Grinding the rep into full sending everything velf felt great
so i dont wanna
tbh though a home made hot pocket probably slaps
Just don't boil it
the only toons i have left that aren't velf are a couple random dwarves and my old belf hunter i played from cata to legion
What if you made like a potato outside instead of pastry
So it’s like a giant hot pocket perogi
i will.

I'd try it once
a hot pocket is a stromboli
How
i will not elaborate
Hot pocket is a calzone 
Fair enough yeah
This was my first thought LMFAO
if you boil a calzone does it just become a really big pierogi
I’ll turn your butthole into a calzone if you sass me one more time
If all calzones are strombolis
Then are pizzas just deconstructed strombolis
Promise?
hog
its a reverse stromboli
U can't just back out
@keen spruce said promise
Stand on business
me dodging the allegations
Also a vod of the exquisite poe2 gameplay
what item would I craft next at best? https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/blackmoore/Bonniestylez
hey dont leak my app
Probably belt or gloves
Would I qualify for DOMS or am I too washed
brother we're almost WR1000
we're just an aotc guild at this point
hell yeah

My 2nd guild just got to gally, what's happening this tier whispyr
Oh I named a Pokemon after you in my nuzlocke
Brother I have less raid experience this entire expac than that feral

we gained like 300 world ranks, 700 to just under 400
you named a pokemon "twink"?
That is NOT what I done
My office fridge is making weird noises
One sec I'll show u

Just like irl
We could so easily get him in a box
@balmy condor ‘s been trapped in @shrewd night’s dungeon for the better part of a decade now

Hey man
The fuck
we have our worst tier in ages lmao
dropped like 300 ranks
World ranks don’t matter
Press buttons have fun
We’re all fucking nerds anyway
Legit
I’m not fucking any nerds
Well played
(Rn)
Then what do you call when you visited last week?
HMM?

how will i derive a sense of self-worth otherwise?

Derive self worth by giving a DPS player you don't like tricks of the trade in m+
Derive it from my love and support for you

Introspection 🐇
word too big please try again
Noitcepsortni?
I think it’s when I think of my little pp as a big pp
That works
What he said
ah i have a terminal case of that i think
Then be proud of your little pp!
Same
It don't wanna come out today
Mine’s also shy because it’s cold in Ipsa’s room
Sa-
BROTHER?
What the sigma
does assa use clear the wittness in st?
No im in the bathroom where you locked me in 2 days ago
Can I come out yet
I’m going to with yes
my client has no memory of that
But the more the days pass
On pure ST you can use it during lingering darkness, otherwise no, if it hits more than 1 target its good tho
The less I remember
Dang
Missed the 50/50
And during lingering its dps neutral
Tbf wowhead guide says go ham
I press it to get rid of the stupid buff my wa is tracking
Intimidated?
Oxi's attacked was lowered
If you update ur WA it might go away 
what enchant are we going with from visions ??
Now I xyz summon my synchro monster
Awwwh that's not getting touched for the rest of the season fam I am on that 1 day raiding shit rn
And attack his life points directly
Based
Weeb

for a second i thought this was #1146207476983812117
missing the other half
does mouseover rupture not consume mark stacks from your target anymore?


ty
man sub chat is full doom, assa chat is this and outlaw is just there
ur lying if u said you never had a card game phase
ideal (besides outlaw chat existing)
Dog I literally still play magic the virgining tf u mean
i bet you play commander
dont mean to humble brag
but i used to be quiittteee the pokemon player back in the day
commander owns
Draft a lot, commander is more available so yeah. Previously went hard on all formats but post Covid I cba dog
played one of the new ff x mtg legends as my commander last night
none of those words are in the bible
i need answers not gifs 
nah i feel that
post covid i havent been to any locals
Can't wait for the mtg wow crossover so we can give Patrick star the ashbringer
Ocean of grief over pirate chat
something something killing spree
something something acro
something something keklmao
something something need more haste
something something post-more-details
something something f@kin crazy sht
Is the rogue dev still here or did we send him too many death threats?

hes still here, just lurking cause recent blizzard things
does mouseover rupture not consume marks anymore?

Clicked vanish 
quite literally
He’s so real
Good choice tbh
hes prepping his crackshot window
you mean from IC spreading it to your marked target?
Hey! Sim for m+ targets min fight style?
dungeon slice
my mouseover ruptures definitely consume marks
With bleed build yes
if i dont got 2 burst on a boss (like burst open and mid boss) i'm lacking LOT of dmg on ST compare to other, i fell i'm doing something wrong
Our ST is kinda poop either way tbh so don't feel too bad if ur still behind
was at raid trash and i just spammed mouseover ruptures on other mobs and my marks weren't consumed
with st build
marks only get consumed by 5+ cp finishers used against the marked target
sending ruptures on other targets wont consume marks
i swear it worked as sub when DS was a thing
So Gushing wounds it is?
its IC spreading it to your marked target, which you dont have in raid
On dungeon since you have 1 charge of Kryss, do you use it on darkness night without lingering darkness ?
out of CD like KB or Mark i mean
so what corruption we use in M+ now?
Void ritual i believe
you can use shiv at 8s on kingsbane and then in lingering darkness. having only 1 charge only affects you being able to get 2 for deathmark. but both the zeross and bleed build play 2 shiv
what's the general cp rule? finish at just 5+?
yea, to consume deathmarks. Then max if darkest night is up. Sometimes its fine to refresh bleeds with lower cp
yea, but i play suboptimally
low cp rupture refreshes is only worth in aoe on other mobs
and thats not in all situations
I kinda wanna get into playing rogue, is assassination fun? Idc really about if it’s meta or not the playstyle of it seems cool. Is it complicated to learn?
yesn't
there are no shinny buttons to press
so you need to understand why you're pressing the buttons
ST easy aoe more difficult but not too bad
other than that, 10/10 recommend
That’s fine. I mainly have been playing mistweaver. I just wanna play a dps that isn’t windwalker
I think I’ll give it a shot.
I played combat rogue waaaaay back in wrath. But that’s not even a thing anymore
Try all 3 specs, they all different
Hey all, started palying Ass(a) a while ago and I'm having an issue, I just keep running out of Energy. Am I casting too fast? What's going on here? Also, how does Slice and Dice work? I know it has a passive where it self activates or something like that but should I still be actively pressing it? Or just pressing it the once?
How’s the survivability?
I kinda know about things like vial, cheat death and cloak from being a healer.
Youre playing assassination, thats why 
!design
Assassination is the ~~poison master ~~ bleed master, low apm in comparison to all the others;
Sub is the Naruto of the 3 specs, fast fast during cds, slower outside of cds, purple;
Outlaw is PIRATESSSSSSSSSS
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
In raid we can use both evasion and cloak, feint, crimson vial
Nice
and the passive leech if you have it talented
So pretty decent I’m assuming
And cheat death too as you mentioned
on high m+ people just use elusiveness and feint becomes a huge defensive CD
Thanks!
Gotcha. So why is poisonmaster crossed out was that for meme because I was under the impression that poisons and bleeds were the bread and butter of assassination
Its a meme. the m+ recommended build is the bleed one, a lot of bleed dmg
Gotcha. Any YouTube vids you’d recommend? I’ve got the wowhead guide pulled up reading it too
Whispyr on youtube
I mainly play m+. I don’t raid much
hmmm
I don't think whispyr can help with those overall, since its always a case to case
But he might have Bleed info on youtube
shindig has good content on it on YT
Heard about shindig a bunch, never really watched his stuff, might be a good shot to check it
Thanks my dudes. ❤️
anyway, here's a video on bleed build (usually used up until 16-17s)
Sims are Stinky
Follow me on twitch :) https://www.twitch.tv/whispyrttv
I also stream here on youtube now :)
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Written Guides
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assass...
I’ll check out some stuff and when I get home tonight I’ll start the leveling process.
Thanks flux.
Leveling wise, don't feel discouraged, it sucks overall
Yes. Lol leveling is a drag
You really gotta love the theme to go thru it. Maybe go sub and shadowstrike kill everything
Leveling a rogue is the wow equivalent of shoving needles in your ballsack
LOL
hot
So depending on your appreciation for pain, either great or terrible
I should still have a 70 boost so that’ll at least be something
Yeah if you got one laying around definitely send it
Because holy fuck
It’s so bad
a nail?
😂
70+ it's basically end game for rogues minus hero talents
Yes
Don’t lie to the man
We don’t have hero talents
X pink cross ok??????
Isn’t it timewalking
it was last week i believe
Or that was last week
Nah that was last week
Rip
Rip.
Missed the good week
This week is 4 mythic dungos
You had my hopes up for a sec
He can run 4 dungeons and get a free piece of heroic loot
Timewalking would be great
Good week for it
Hey guys, I might have missed it but is there an opener for the bleed build anywhere?
Anyways, thanks for bein cool. I’ll probably be back asking questions about why I suck and can’t do damage in a few days lol
No one is born learnt or smth like that
Hopefuly you already have the wowhead guide up, that answers most questions
Usually people just garrote x2 same target (it’ll spread the bleeds with smart targeting so you’ll have 5 garrotes out), then rupture, sbs fills CPs then they get CT up with that, then it’s just getting slice and dice up with an envenom asap and getting caustic applied with mutilate/ambush
I missed you oxi, how are you, married homie?
Waiting for the fucking house to be finished
SOON MAN
Painting should be done tomorrow. Kitchen early next week
Guys another question for m+
i feel like i must be the only one smoking crack who doesnt mind leveling a rogue
(i don't mind too, i love it)
but maybe it's cuz i never leveled anything else outside of remix 
well other than my mw
but that's pain cuz killing shit takes 50 years
dungeon spam go brrr
I think sub is pretty good for leveling
Is the bleed m+ build from wowhead still the go to for higher keys? cause my ST is so fuckign bad with it
For a while you can strike evis and kill most things
yes
our st just bad unless played around it by others
Guys, when you got darknessnight up and KB up with 1 charge of kryss, do you put insta kryss + KB > Evenom ? or do you delay kryss for last 8s
we basically afk once deathmark is on cd and just keep bleeds active
Assuming kryss is shiv
Depends what high keys means to you
I’m having success with forced induction in 15s
Isnt it best to spread garrote/rupture on a lot of target before envenoming with bleed build?
yes^^
Like more then 2 garrote and 1 rupture
Spreading it to targets that will actually live is good
Small mobs that evaporate in 2 seconds isn’t worth it
Is there some instance where you go for arterial precision ?
Sorry for the question but which of the corruptions do we use atm
kryss is such a cool name for shiv
Wish someone would kryss me in the neck
people with normal people problems, and im just sitting on my ass here every day

im doing 13s and 14s but does it changee with 15s?
"bis"
The only things that can be considered bis are trinkets and special weapons/items , other than that its simcraft
Compared to my crafted neck, it wasn't back in the days
anyone got a fancy 5/5 scent stack WA? just the text
I get kicked out of stealth on gally when he crashes down but the other rogue not and i have no clue why
That’s the hope
just use sprint on 1 and spam ambush

yeah i'm moving in next week thanks again buddy
Ok im just stupid thanks xD
Yea was doing that we just startet gally now and i was a bit confused
Let me tell you from my "On waiting list for it to come out" It is something
Should I pair Signet of the Priory with Deaths Mark? or should I use it when Lingering Darkness is up to buff envenom even more?
pair it with DM
bind to dm and forget about it
can we cloak hc mugzee mines?
!wa
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they are physical damage
guys is there anyway to get more loot from old raid in hc/normal, cause it still looks like you need to to have more ppl for more loot
all raids should be legacy mode except maybe dragonflight
well its an dragonflight raid
yeah, they haven't released legacy mode for DF yet so it still scales with number of players
probably when midnight releases, shadowlands became legacy when tww released
another question, is there anything other than the runes for your helmet, to get from the horrific vision
just vanity items and catchup gear
what are vanity items?
Cosmetics
ahh oke, what about the skill tree and buffs?
they make doing visions easier if you like doing them with more masks equipped
only for vission content
but outside of the event the skill tree and buff has no effects?
correct
Yo gamers, on myth gally, when we hit gally in intermission are the small adds in splatter range from where they start?
It really still changes for me dungeon to dungeon. Depends on iron wire value. I really like forced induction for motherload for example
I think some of the closer ones are but I stand on them just in case
Stand on them but still hit Gally yeah?
yeah spattering off of gally
Due to new splatter circle from our model? I need to get better at splattering a friends guild assa just got a 99 and did 200mil more splatter damage than me
correct, gally is morbidly obese so it doesnt reach unless you use the new circle
you will hit almost all the technicians without moving anywhere
it feels so weird not needing any loot in mythic raid this early
thats not what it does
my splatter hit the sentry here, the radius ends roughly about at the first sentry
so with void bugged, is everyone going twilight in keys?
Anyone able to start a log thread so I can link a gally prog log and see what dumb shit I'm doing wrong? In the same period this guy has cast 17 more evenoms???
@balmy condor did i miss something? how is it possible to cast kingsbane at pull + 28 seconds in fight?
There a way on WCL to see num of CP used on a finisher average?
Can look at resources then combo points and look at peaks and dips. Idk other than that
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Is there anything I can do to just stop my envenom dissappearing all the time?
Known bug I’m pretty sure with ttk
Were not sure whats causing it no
once you are 11 levels above it
spec sub or outlaw to have access to a different set of bugs 

What is the school of thought of using CDs on Mythic Gallywix?
-
Is it better to use CDs on CD by staying in the suppression,
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or to hold till after the suppresions, delay by about 20s
Benefit I can see of holding is lining it up with Intermission 2 (but I think those adds will get blasted anyway).
Downside is you lose a KB cast at the end. (~8min kill)
e.g. comparison between this
Problem with cloaking and staying in
Is that the next supression lines up with the next one anyway
Evasion + Feint next one
then they line up for each alternate one
Cloak -> Evas/Feint -> Cloak
Where can we post logs for review? I'm starting to despair
Feels like I'm giga washed
!wa
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Yes
Just rawdog it here
If you send a key log I will block 
hybrid build is meh
trying it in 14s to get ready overall dam is kind of bleh miss the execute dmg i guess
now insted of gapping because with bleee build it doesnt matter how fast adds die with execute but 14s they still dont live long enough for poison bomb and spatter to work its magic quite yet boss dam is considerably better though
the hybrid build is competitve with others dmg in 14s just you dont top meters lol with bleed build it tops and gaps
i thought it was worth in 17s now you are saying 18s lol
Here’s fine I don’t do dm log reviews
That’s how you end up with 20 a day 
yeah just gonna go back bleed builds until we dont time becasue boss dam i reckon
bleed build is pog
i think bleed build is so strong even in higher keys you should stick to it
get other sin your team to go more single target bias
get a hunter or osmething
these 14s and even 15s bleed build smacks
the trash management power of bleed build is just too gucci
yeah bleed build is great in 15s
So, for someone that has never played the original horrific visions … any guides? I’m assuming we play the delve build?
i just played bleed build
did it with friends
had no idea what we were doing but manged to clear all 4 areas
then when we had somewhat of an idea what to do we started carrying guildies through it
@tall jay
i believe if you follow this it will work
this is kind of what we did blindly
without knowing it was the strat
I’m gonna dm you a hog review
actually
Solo player here atm
oh
if youre solo im not sure
it gets significantly harder
actually
if you follow that guide solo works too
But I’m sure I can fine a few friends
maybe play outlaw for more up front damage
bleed build is a bit backloaded damage
as opposed to front loaded
outlaw just pull out your glock on the enemies
hit em with the blicky
sudden demise just obliterates enemies
i think this mostly depends on your killtimer, i did the hold strat this week on a 7:20 killtimer
you would lose a dm if the boss would died 8:30 will holding which is the main problem
but if it dies early you will be able to pad your ass off pretty much
im tired of my deathmarks randomly disappearing blizzard
Ok so…bleed build and go
wish you had a competent dev team

We are all tired of it
I am a fan of knives 
Delete this number
if you didnt bind fan of knives and crimson tempest to your scroll wheel
are you really playing assassination
f and g for LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
Shift r and shift f
Exactly
Real question is "would you add a few drops of cyanide to your tea", with yes leading to rogue
unfathomably based btw
I’ve literally brezed your ass
And that’s objectively false
I would never die

Feint too strong
Surely
what is that
Red drink too? Talk to me
everyone needs ot be an engineer
Yeah I don’t play brez classes
Oh I know
You don’t have to be an engineer
You just get them from the ah
I also have drums for the best keybind I have
P

Correct
True
I do every day big dog
anyone have any tips for Assa on Mythic OaB
Snipe low health adds for energy
How's my damage breakdown in a 9 team
shouldnt your demise damage be super high in a 9?
My thoughts aswell
And CT is low too
Garrote too high
spatter damage seems low too even in bleed build
Why no tea?
Oh, bro is running Fatebound
anyone found a good talent build for 4+ masks aside maybe iron wire?
with bleed spec
I'm so used to everybody playing Deathstalker, I didn't even know what you meant, lol
maybe try this one
great build
ragebait build
play this
yea why fatebound o.O
Starting to play more sin in raid. Haven't played it in a minute. Is there still pooling energy or just full send always.
I did try sanguine drop and switch to IW that helps but you need to go pack by pack. it works I think but 5 masks with 50% drop on sanity I feel we would come short
full send, can pool into kingsbane a little
You can pool before Kingsbane
Na you just don't get where the build is from
so it comes across as ragebait
sounds fun not being able to track anything easily
just use 1button rotation
doing anything above 12's at this point is just torture anyway
these pugs have been nothing but a bunch of clueless apes who swiped a credit card for 3k
did you watch zerocool again
only reason i have done rook 17 is cause i got held hostage being asked to do it
For 3k you just need a couple of 13s. I don't think you need a credit card for it. You can get it, even if you play bad.
you can get 3k by +2ing 12s :3
The main reason I'm not pushing is that I spend more time in que than in the key.
tell that to the 682 fm that just did 2m overall in my 14
deff a credit card
tbh I have no clue why they keep buffing paladin tbh 😛
because the majority of the playerbase needs a class that requires 2 buttons
Random mages in general are terrible. They get easy invites, coz ppl like mages and they give BL. So keys tend to be infested with bad ones. That means that you get easily into keys that carry you for free tho.
I actually wonder how much dps loss the 1-button rotation for paladin even is. Isn't it one of the specs where you already could make a 1button macro beforehand?
just weird blizz patches I don't know
same like hunters tbh. they whine but I dont know what about. they are fine 😛
the feral one
blizz devs dont even know what theyre doing the majority of the time anyway
Thanks !
ah well seen some guildies go FOTM and I guess that works nowadays
just enough to keep us subbed
but that's the development plan
I think not for the majority of players

25% more GCD is gigantic mate
Yea, sure, that dps loss is guranteed. However rotation wise?
every 4 "one button" abilitys, you are 1 ability behind for the rest of the fight
like, its a giant lost
has ret paladin CDR build into its normal stuff?
if yes, its even bigger
cus less abilitys = less dmg AND longer cds
There are resets I think. Procs and such
no
we have cd extensions
so its still a loss
cause every 8-12 spenders is a rg proc so more gcds will probably put you behind and throw off your loop. same thing about divine hammer, every global which contributes to using a spender is valueable cause each spender extends /dh
more global = less extension uptime
more chance to drop dh and fuck yourself
ye, like, its such a big loss in many ways for almost all specs
and thats the point
its not supposed to be "endgame viable" at all really
Ah true, I forgot you play divine hammers now. Didn't play Ret this season
blessed
ultimately this still means nothing btw cause rotation helper is still suggesting wrong things
not playing ret = good
What if rogue had a poison that hit everyone within 30 yards and made it so they could take 10% decreased damage for 10 seconds on a 3 minute cd
if they cant fix rotation helper to do proper rotation, then how can i expect themk to replace addons
But it was a big stinky cloud
I play assa tho. Doesn't feel that good xd
Like really smelly
toxic bomb but better
Rogues should have a leeching poison
/wa
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Rogue tierset season 3
2pc mutulate is now a taunt and has a 6 second cd, all your abilities grant increased threat, envenom makes you main target so less damage to you, your dots slowly heal u a % of damage done
Yeah but for everyone
Just don’t apply the poison! Ef them healers
4pc: every combo point spent is 1% dr stacking overlapping, fan of knifes is now a aoe taunt on a 1min cd, evasion cloak of shadows have 2 charges, shadow step is now changed to ninja charge
There we go
Sin is fixed
stop cooking
No
6pc: deathmark now pulses and spreads your envenom dr to all targets
Sin is now aura nerfed by 60%
Delete this nephew
As a now and first time tank main
Delete this shit rn
6 piece: chicken nugget
Make it McForge into a 12piece
you forgot that part where sub somehow catches strays and gets nerfed aswell
why the fuck did u get to mcforge to 12 piece when u dont even do mcmythic this is bs i only got 6p
What’s 8 piece
You get Shadow Dance again
@balmy condor mr whisp, is there any real difference for bleed key build in st to vanish > gar > dm vs vanish > gar inside dm?
Just when you want master assassin
what key level should i stop bleeding?
I mean I save it for last 12 seconds of dm
16ish?
any reasons tony?
If ur a real tank main
U agree the game needs more tanks
There is no 8pc
then how will i feel like a rare snowflake?
Yes I’m a dps cosplaying as a tank rn
Pwar
Good
I mean just having MA over 12 seconds of DM and lately I run one shiv cause of some bad experiences in pugs that I would be shiv’ing at the end
I only go there to steal nomes car
And most bosses im opening from stealth anyways so I would already have imp gar. Don’t need to refresh before dm
So I vanish when dm has 12 seconds left and send a garrote in pandemic
Or overwrite if it’s like mid boss and I have normal garrote up
Smash smash smash
Yea
begone outlaw
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Why do we not use envenom in the multi-target opener?
because setting up bleeds is more important
Ah I see, Ty!
You can do it if you want, but it delays your CDs even more
And if youre not doing really high keys or fighting very tanky mobs its likely the targets start dying of before you get full value out of your cds
6pc talking about chicken mcnuggies
spread rupture > crimson tempest > envenom
is the order of priority in an aoe opener
How important is staying about 50% energy in the hybrid build vs envemon spamming in keys? I'd assume the multiple bleeds being out kinda keeps it above that most of the time, but should i pay attention to my energy or just pump?
how does the void elf teleport work on mugzee prisons? Do I just send it after it goes off and teleport out whenever or is there a timing thing?
in aoe it happens by itself
in ST is a minor gain
If you are not playing bleed you want to actively be below 50% on ST
and ye what eleem said
In aoe you have infinite energy anyway so it doesnt matter
Okay, that's what I thought. That's how i played it last season but wanted to check. Bleed build does sim a lot higher so i might just swap to that soon
echoing void still bugged?
yes
send it before they spawn since it is a projectile
and then tp after they do
ok ty

Does anyone know if there’s a list of pre-key start abilities you can use ahead of time? I know Metamorphosis has always been a staple
@balmy condor ||https://x.com/AuraWithCat/status/1925393034092400885|| you and me 
I play all 13 classes so…
Incarn
Its mostly 3m cds that dont spawn things
With a notable exception being Tip The Scales for Evoker
It keeps the instant cast component but on key start it refreshes the cd so you get 2 instant uses at the start
He’s playing all 13 classes bro, he knows everything
I wish I knew anything
Same bro
Nooo I don’t know everything
That’s why I’m asking lol
Good to know. I wasn’t sure if Incarn was, so I waited til start to use it. Especially for big opener. Good to know I can extend
Thanks @thorn thorn
I dont think incarn is actually worth pre using before the key cuz I dont play druid
I just see bears and boomies do it pretty frequently
So im sure there is a reason
You can send after if you want, it goes threw the walk no rush
oh huge thank you
Random question, does curse of tongues stack w/ necrotic poison or nah
i vaguely remember stacking them for one of the 3 bosses in forgotten experiments in aberrus
yea im just thinking the mechanics in P3 of M gally
im progging atm
we have 2 rogues so i can just necrotic
im still checking the pinned message like twice a day for the new enchants, is echoing void still bugged?
yup
I am an old playing assassin rogue on retail for first time, 2 months in
Do you guys just use weak aura to make the bleed timers bigger cause I can’t see these fucking things
yes
atrophic also stacks though
so
your move I guess
weakauras are basically mandatory on every spec these days
ty
Ty
im capped on gear, i dont myth raid, i hit 3k.. what's left? 
oh i guess i could just pvp
i mentioned that in guild disc and immediately someone goes "yea your class is good shut up"
yeah but it's not clearly the best 


!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtlety.
Why is it siming this way?
Thought main hand weapon dmg mattered alot
You probably made an error with the sim input so it couldnt select the higher ilvl in mainhand
Or made it so you had no embellishments if you did
Wow, you are right, didn't select the crafted weapon as a offhand
thank you so much @spice surge
would we run VV on fatebound?
yall have any tips for mythic mugzee
Soak mines, dont stand in shit, hit boss

Remember that evasion has DR so use it when bombs are being soaked
no
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2zDHAY9a8W7FP1jq?fight=last&type=damage-done Why is the damage so low. I feel that since i took the ring out i went down.
pretty mcuh just this and vanish during cold blood
@balmy condor
Twilight devastation does exactly as it sims in m+ 
Dogshit
Why were people saying its undersimming 
cause it's 1ppm and they were getting insano giga cranker procs in a key
and then screenshots went around being like holy shit look it did 2.5%
and people lost their mind
Increases my overall in the key by more than 2.5% because it ninja pulls more mobs so the big pull gets bigger

is twilight dev still the move in raid st
yes because beam is cool
probably not but it's fine
Hopefully twilight dev can pull gally through the wall on mugzee and kill both for me
Whispyr can you help me here?
I opened it and it was like a 94 or whatever and I just closed it again
Whispyr can you bring my dad back to life and keep him safe from quake
can we shadowstep out of the mugzee prisons before the walls go up but as the soak deals out the damage?
Why wasn't it 99
Proc better
have you considered being in a worse group that doesn't kill adds before you pad on them
Do we prefer 7 cp envenom or is it 5+?
just thinking about this tank I had earlier in a +14 floodgate that chain pulled everything at 5% hp
pisses me off still
5+ except darkest night
Gotcha. Thanks ❤️
is internal bleeding better than caustic for sprocket? seeing top parses taking it
I will not take the ragebait

its not ragebait u fuck
im just stupid man dw about it

The bombs obv need dpsed down
That does work on the bombs at 1st boss ML
Outlaw can bladeflurry it
I didnt bother checking if spatter works too
im so fucking dumb just checked dps charts and caustic literally does 0
i thought caustic dmgd target too ...
welp .. now i know
wait. how do you even open on mythic gally as sin 🤣
same as any other boss
doesnt he slam
you walk out of it
you can hit him before?
When u pull the boss
U press w
Then
Boss is close for dps!
video guide when?
















