#assassination

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native turret
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but it would still be a huge uppie for him im sure

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hard to beat 684 myth weapons unless u already got 2

waxen oyster
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yeah as far i recall

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enh isnt often a fan of cantrips

native turret
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and i have 684 mug and 684 needle now

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so we gaming

waxen oyster
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they like stats

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well enh plays ascendance

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iirc

native turret
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kinda weird u can use 2 thumbs but only 1 capo

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inb4 someone makes joke bout u having 2 thumbs

waxen oyster
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maybe double thumb better in keys though

native turret
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possibly but the proc on that thing is ass

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i had a heroic one first week and it never procced

waxen oyster
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im pretty sure its a case of

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"something is better than nothing"

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enhance log with 2 has them doing 1.84% on sprocket

native turret
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not badge

waxen oyster
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yeah though im pretty sure they normally just play ascendance so crafted offhand

agile wedge
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on gally in p2, when the frontal soaks are there, can i still clip other people with my circle, when i pull cloak?

neon bridge
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how bad is fatebound for assa

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I kinda want to try it out but seems pointless if it's very bad

red schooner
neon bridge
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I hope there will be changes made to it season 3 to make it a bit stronger for multitarget

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idea is really fun

red schooner
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So for this raid tier it's only really usable on sprocket, and even then a lot of people just stuck to deathstalkers cos they didn't wanna coin flip

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(I was one of those people)

neon bridge
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ty!

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I also use deathstalker perma btw

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just wanted to give it a shot, maybe next reset

quaint spindle
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What myth track ring are most people using to replace circes signet

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Generally

distant helm
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Jastor + crafted

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Unless you have a myth track ring with decent stats (best to sim yourself though)

quaint spindle
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Thanks. I cannot seem to get a ring to save my life so I’m probably gonna craft one

distant helm
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Rings are p tough to get as theres only 1 raid one besides the rng one from bandit

red schooner
quaint spindle
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Crit heavy bandit ring would be nice

weak prism
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When playing forced induction should i spend at 2charged CP + 1 normal, or 2 charged +3 normal?
Since charged CP count as 2

golden loom
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and play to normal finisher rules

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and let it do its work in the background

weak prism
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Thanks!

wise plume
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I have a myth radiant necro band that sim’d a good amount higher than circes

royal lantern
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yes? then use it?

runic hinge
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No

wise plume
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aw man I thought I replied to that guy

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rip

haughty flicker
civic lynx
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Guys I´ve seen ping, but wich corruption should we wear?

balmy condor
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So you saw the pin which give you a corruption recommendation

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But you’re asking for a corruption recommendation

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Play twilight devastation I guess

edgy mauve
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Are we at a point where we could try anything other than radient power on our weapons?

dusky vault
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For Raid or M+? Because depths has always been better for raid

edgy mauve
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for m+

quiet oar
balmy condor
balmy condor
hollow lily
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dumb me thought that sometimes not getting mark on bosses was bug/lag

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TIL that its parry

quiet oar
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IT CAN BE PARRIED

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Wait

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did your Ambush get parried

haughty flicker
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I’ve had the darkest night envenom get parried but still apply mark

hollow lily
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no, it was darkest nigh envenom i think

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but envenom was not parried, just mark

haughty flicker
quiet oar
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And now

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plottwist

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he had no vanish

late sky
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i see alot of top rogues go void ritual and not echoing, is that the go to now?

quiet oar
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Playing without Hero talent

golden loom
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honestly gushing wound, fatal intent and the hot sauce all big hitters on Mugzee garf

haughty flicker
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Me when I lose mark, vanish to reapply it, and it doesn’t work because I pressed a button too fast

quiet oar
haughty flicker
golden loom
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the mutilate/ambush damage is beautiful tho

royal lantern
pine cave
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what is the best enchant on helmet ? void ritual ?

worthy rose
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according to wowhead is echoing void

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i dont think it matters

balmy condor
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pins

rotund oak
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Should rename urself to ''Pins'' for a while

worthy rose
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why do you not mention void ritual

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when its one of the recommended ones

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its ghetto ascendance

rotund oak
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im GW gaming,feels good

haughty flicker
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beam go brrr

worthy rose
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games workshop gaming?

feral mason
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unless you double it

royal lantern
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guys who cares

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they are like, 0,8% all lol

haughty flicker
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i care

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beam go brrr

worthy rose
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ascendance is 89 isnt it

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lesser void is 71

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so its a little bit off

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who need sto double ascendance

rotund oak
burnt juniper
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there's no shot any blizz dev would play DS and think it's a good playstyle

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every single person i know who's picked up rogue and played sin randomly comes at me going "holy shit this is the most aids i have ever experienced"

haughty flicker
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the only time i have any strong feelings about deathstalker one way or another is when it randomly decides to not work

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or when i have to explain to raid again why im not target swapping

quiet oar
haughty flicker
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its ok eventually they'll randomly buff fatebound by 300% and we'll all be flipping coins

little tulip
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turbo boost is great for wars/rets right now it seems

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also anyone else who got buffs going into 11.5

rotund oak
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swapped to fatebound

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quit a month later

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i stand my ground saying once more

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rogue a hard class in general

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and definitely non-starter friendly

steel ridge
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its not rewarding enough for new players

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it just doesnt do anything flashy

little tulip
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idk also lack of comp synergies in keys?

rotund oak
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yup,idk why anyone would play rogue when ret exists

haughty flicker
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sub and outlaw i agree with

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but idk sin is insanely piss easy atm

rotund oak
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rogue is generally harder

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than most other classes

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thats my opinion though

steel ridge
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yeah big rogue rework in 11.2 suuuuurely

tropic jewel
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suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurly

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😄

steel ridge
rotund oak
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just play mage yo

steel ridge
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i do

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50% mage 50% rogue

rotund oak
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when the tank wants to pull make sure to rof the corner

steel ridge
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but i do like 80% more dmg as rogue

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LOL

haughty flicker
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i do think i'll gear my ret again at some point

steel ridge
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just not in ST

rotund oak
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dmg is irrelevant mage does other things

haughty flicker
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just because its fun to turn brain off and look at the pretty lights

rotund oak
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we do protals

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and sheeps

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and rings

steel ridge
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sheeps

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rings

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like

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i did one ring the entire addon so far

rotund oak
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hahahahaha

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what a legend

steel ridge
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huge copium

rotund oak
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yup

tropic jewel
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the mages i see are either dead, doing tank damage or constantly complaining about pulls

steel ridge
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mage is the main character

tropic jewel
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range arround 15-16

steel ridge
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yet numbing poison is better utility than 90% of mages

steel ridge
rotund oak
steel ridge
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thats because mage is equally as hard to learn as rogue is, but much more popular

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cause its flashy

subtle kiln
golden loom
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I will not play ranged classes

rotund oak
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ill see u next season on ur hunter

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dw

little tulip
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idk 1 hunter is like 1.5 most other classes dps right neow

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this is the time

haughty flicker
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right meow

sonic pagoda
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so im timing 14s now warcraft logs says im parsing 97's only been back to the game for 3 weeks when was rogue hard?

steel ridge
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just wait until assassination starts to scale

royal lantern
# subtle kiln <:rotation:602886225812127749>

"bro arcane mage is so hard bro look at the guide bro its so hard!!!"

the guide: press arcane blast, if X is ready use that, if not Press Arcane Blast instead (repeat for 10 more lines)

steel ridge
sonic pagoda
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the guys complaing about deathstalkers mark? you just shift tab bleed build is insanely easy

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which reminds my since i been doing 15 keys last night in a couple weeks ill be doing 16s and 17s. they said 17s i need to swap to cleave build ro whatever??? where is that at?

little tulip
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cook before chicken but kingsbane would function better if it was like deathstalker's and you just consumed stacks for damage

burnt juniper
little tulip
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hemorrhage was a fun ability even if it was a button bloat and the whole wait a minute every minute thing isn't a vibe anymore

haughty flicker
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gib back exsang

royal lantern
little tulip
royal lantern
haughty flicker
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ilu2

sonic pagoda
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you guys must not game and do high keys since you ignored meh lol

haughty flicker
royal lantern
golden loom
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was Hemo something other than a builder at some point?

royal lantern
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like, idk what you want to hear there

golden loom
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cause this shit is dog!

rotund oak
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watch ur mouth young man

royal lantern
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the 6 people that play assa in really high keys swap to a more ST focused build (aka the "cleave build") because otherwhise bosses stay alive for too long

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thats all

burnt juniper
rotund oak
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ive killed more ppl than 3 accounts with that

little tulip
burnt juniper
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and a cool tooltip pic

sonic pagoda
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becasue im about to be number 7

little tulip
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it's like deathmark's weirdly shaped cousin

royal lantern
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wowhead, cleave build in m+

little tulip
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ancestor whatever

burnt juniper
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i remember hemo sub with slow MH wep was a thing during BC

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that was really fun

golden loom
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cause that sound does slap

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(the old sounds ofc)

little tulip
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they definitely squished a fruit to make that noise but yeah

burnt juniper
golden loom
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best sound effect though is blade flurry/cleave/sweeping strikes

raven vapor
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
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bro is savage today

velvet cairn
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sup bros, what corruption are u guys using?

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not a pin moment, i want to look at logs and compare

royal lantern
rotund oak
haughty flicker
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my log is bigger

velvet cairn
haughty flicker
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cant i got in trouble last time

analog field
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Hello, is there a point of using different gems for the culminating blasphemite effect? or just forget it ?

velvet cairn
velvet cairn
earnest remnant
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just forget about it, its within margin 99.9999% of the time and each time you will sim it will throw in a new combination

golden loom
velvet cairn
haughty flicker
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idk im not one for comparing log sizes

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its more what you do with it

analog field
haughty flicker
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anyday

golden loom
earnest remnant
rotund oak
sharp viper
earnest remnant
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it is also NOT

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0,2-0,3

haughty flicker
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its important to use every gem color to get the most speed

earnest remnant
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its more like 0.0-0.02

haughty flicker
rotund oak
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by a factor of 10 actually

sharp viper
golden loom
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Lock in

haughty flicker
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i used echoing void

rotund oak
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L

velvet cairn
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is void ritual bugged?

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void ritual and echoing is different

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ur not good at pin stuff

pliant remnant
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Think it's reading that he's not good at

velvet cairn
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or maybe its just bad ppm

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i was wondering if it was bugged cause one log had badge uptime

south token
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" :blue_siren: Echoing void is possibly bugged :siren: (even after a hotfix HOLY) " - good bug as in it does way more than it should (pick it) or bad bug?

rotund oak
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Oh yeah VR is whatever,ive tested didnt even notice yday it proced,was waiting for a visual checked from details=>auras

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feels @ss

velvet cairn
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i looked at around 15 logs, gushing seems a bit rng compared to twilight dev but is more consistent

sharp viper
velvet cairn
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wtf

velvet cairn
golden loom
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miss 100% seems good

velvet cairn
loud hawk
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so guys

sharp viper
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lesser gushing wound

loud hawk
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with what corruption we go ?

south token
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so tl:dr for mythic raid we go gushing (i read the pin)

velvet cairn
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yea

south token
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but it doesnt matter

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because they all suck

velvet cairn
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seems like that according to logs, sim is same since margin of error

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sapzilla the pin warrior

rotund oak
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ild jump out of ur screen and slap u but im a gentle working man 🙂

analog field
devout pine
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Guys, as close as it gets? Fk those 31k

sour elm
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Can sin jump the gaol prisons on mugzee?

spice surge
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No

sour elm
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Ok ty

burnt juniper
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because spatter hits through the walls off the boss

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one of the few specs in the game that can do that

spice surge
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(if they and the boss are positioned correctly)

burnt juniper
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true the goals need to be close enough to the boss

sour elm
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Ok perfect thanks guys

burnt juniper
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my RL kept asking me if the goals were close enough, because it's a significant amount of free goal dps

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or gaol however you spell it

earnest remnant
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ive seen it done

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surely i can easily do it

spice surge
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clueless Surely

burnt juniper
sour elm
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that's what I was thinking just wanted to double check to make sure I knew what I was talking about

spice surge
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Its possible but not reliable

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The timing is so absolutely tight thats its far more hassle than its worth

golden loom
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would the timing be the same as for the people rescueing/gripping

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so like 0.1 on the timer or smthin

spice surge
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No its tighter

golden loom
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sounds fun

earnest remnant
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its at actual 0

golden loom
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if I fail it, ping diff

earnest remnant
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grips and rescue is at around 0.3-0.2 left on impact

lethal heart
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grip is distance related too

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max range vs half range

spice surge
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The walls have to come up while youre "midair" of shadowstep

lethal heart
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think you just go voidelf if you rly care

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no counterplay

spice surge
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Ye

red schooner
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One day they will just let us choose racials without a race change

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I can dream

sharp viper
red schooner
sharp viper
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(I share your dream but finances says no)

red schooner
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So, new dagger is the play I guess.

elfin sapphire
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you have 2 double nerubian embelishments on

royal lantern
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which is something i didnt expect tbh

sharp viper
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True

sharp viper
sharp viper
lethal heart
nova aspen
manic anvil
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...

red schooner
# manic anvil ...

It happens, everforged stabber is the name of the one you need I think.

lethal heart
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at this point im surprised they dont put big red disclaimers like with tank trinkets that its not good for your spec

sharp viper
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@manic anvil cyrce's cyrclet is also just 619 - if oyu upgrade it to 658 it will be a lot more powerful

red schooner
royal lantern
red schooner
manic anvil
manic anvil
royal lantern
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you are not alone dracthyr_kek

manic anvil
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hhhhhh i guess im less upset now

sharp viper
sharp viper
crisp burrow
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I have House of cards heroic+ mega magnet myth as trinkets, should I buy signet myth with dinars?

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or Seaforium even

manic anvil
worthy rose
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DID BRO MAKE AN INTELLECT DAGGER

sharp viper
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cloak or bracers are equal in stats iirc so it doesn't matter much

worthy rose
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my condolences

red schooner
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Ye, it happens, people make mistakes but they can be rectified

sharp viper
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you can try and sim cloak/bracers you have access to

spice surge
burnt juniper
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i mean the int dagger has 5 times the amount of main stat than the agi dagger

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more stats=better

jaunty sky
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Or didn't just make it agi/int

worthy rose
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Yeah it’s stupid

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Especially when most people would go to craft

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Type dagger

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And then get that as the item when searching

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Without reading closely you could easily get screwed

cyan surge
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Usually the agility daggers are called shanker or dagger while the int daggers are called spellblade.

spice surge
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Theres also casters who have crafted agility daggers, we are not alone

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(idk why theres even 2 different daggers, they should just swap based on class)

rotund oak
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everforge stabber

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is what u are searching for

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so its stabber

midnight mist
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if i go to pvp vendor

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i cannot buy an int dagger unless i look for it specifically

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but we lost the tech going into df it seems

tropic jewel
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big tech

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hard to keep it up

spice surge
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Should just swap stats like trinkets and other things do, having 2 different agi daggers drop in the raid when literally only rogues can use them is a bit silly

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When personal loot isnt a thing anymore

midnight mist
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Well ye but then you compete with every casters!

spice surge
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Ye

sharp viper
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just make warglaives usable

balmy condor
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or just bring back nathria weapon tokens

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what was the issue with weapon tokens

royal lantern
ancient rain
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If we had weapon tokens i wouldn't have gotten my dagger so soon

spice surge
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Weapons arent even that important nowadays since you just always end up crafting one week 1 or 2 anyway

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So its only +3 ilvls

little tulip
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it's pretty easy to pick up and play rogue these days

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it does suck that there's no random blues from dungeon drops anymore

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i mean yeah you just get a boe blue from the ah mid expansion but also yaey a sfk dagger etc

pliant remnant
tired girder
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is it worth rupturing the drones on mugzee that dont take dmg just for the energy regen?

sharp viper
quiet oar
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Spatter should apply poisons

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no?

golden loom
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Spatter doesnt

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I think?

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but the rupture cast can itself

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but you should just rupture it as the shield on it gets broken to snipe it and get big energy back

royal lantern
idle vine
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i only m+ so only acces to hero track raid gear and myth track m+ gear from dinars. All the guides say jastor is prio (even if heroic) but myth track seaforium and/or signet of priory sim much higher for me

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whats the go

gleaming geyser
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trinkets first, you can craft 681 rings if needed with uncapped crests

little tulip
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weaps > trinks > other probs

idle vine
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how come guides say jastor

pliant remnant
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What trinkets do you have currently?

idle vine
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seaforium and signet of priory but both hero track

golden loom
pliant remnant
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But yeah

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Guides can't give a one-size-fits-all recommendation

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If sims tell you to get something else, then get that thumbsup

idle vine
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ok thanks

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also i didnt hand in my dinar quest first week cause I was still trying to decide

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so just handed it in now to get the 3

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but there's no other quest to get the 4th

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so is there no catchup???

golden loom
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also @quiet oar I've been spattering these dummies and dornogal for a few min now, can confirm it does not apply poisons 😎

balmy condor
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don't think they added a catchup, no

idle vine
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thats fucked

balmy condor
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I mean you could've just turned in the quest

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and then not gotten an item

idle vine
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this is true, but I also thought bliz wouldn't have such a bad design

balmy condor
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ah

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yeah so the issue with that

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is that they totally do

idle vine
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then again, I should know they would do that

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lol

balmy condor
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very commonly

indigo ginkgo
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are the new enchants fixed ? or stil bugged

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what i was asking was, even if still bugged do we still get the echoing void ? sorry

fathom minnow
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17 floodgate
💪 BleedBuild

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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I want the thing from beyond murdering me again

balmy condor
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call me the thing from beyond

sturdy python
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Idk what I'm doing wrong rotationally with FI but my DPS is significantly worse on packs, and only slightly better on bosses

coral ibex
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that is exactly what the build does

loud hawk
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bro with zeross build without using pots and with 2 quality flask i did 5.76M in psf 8

golden loom
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you played cleave in a 8?

loud hawk
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is priory tho

golden loom
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if you played bleed in that you wouldve done 16m overall

loud hawk
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i am not good with bleed

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i am doing 4.5 m

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in priory

stiff tapir
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I don’t think stuff lives long enough in low keys to do bleed build?

loud hawk
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i am just boosting and testing

golden loom
haughty flicker
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stuff not living long in low keys is precisely why bleed build is good there

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you dont need a prio target that stays alive for you to cleave caustic off of

haughty flicker
stiff tapir
coral ibex
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imagine if zacro had a low taper fade

stiff tapir
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Learning Sin, sorry if I’m backwards

loud hawk
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i am training zeross build for 15's

coral ibex
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good bit

coral ibex
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i need zeross build for my weekly vault 10's

loud hawk
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😭

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ok bro i stop

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got it

haughty flicker
golden loom
# stiff tapir Learning Sin, sorry if I’m backwards

yeah understandable, but its quite logical if you think about it, if mobs die fast then:
Your garrotes spread during opener will be empowered for most of the mobs time alive
The bleeds wont run out before mob is dead
Sudden demise does crazy stuff

winged sun
golden loom
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practising it in a 8 key doesnt sound productive tho no flame kekw

stiff tapir
golden loom
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yeah bleed does nasty stuff in visions

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you press deathmark on a mob and it gets nuked from orbit

stiff tapir
echo crystal
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Does anyone have a very clear way to show on their nameplate if a target has rupture or not?

echo island
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Anyone know why there is no ranking given for my myth gally log?

coral ibex
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yea add the debuff to your plater tracking

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easy

golden loom
echo island
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Nopes

golden loom
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Unlucky

echo island
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Same happened with the rick reverb kill

midnight mist
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!mute @winged sun 1d we need more time

lavish geyser
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if I only play m+ what enchant would I choose for my head? Seems like both echoing void and twilight devastation has downsides

jaunty sky
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Void ritual no?

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Just sim them with dungeon slice

golden loom
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or play around with them, they cost pretty much nothing and u can farm infinitely

coral ibex
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no i need to know the optimal choice for my 0.5% damage buff bro

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gotta push these 14's

golden loom
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M+? could not be me garf

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I would do anything for 0.5% damage in raid though

little tulip
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what classes are considered part of a physical comp btw?

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i know boomie makes stonks with udk/warlock for exmaple

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just war/monk?

golden loom
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warrior rogue monk druid shaman hunter i guess

little tulip
errant hawk
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

spice surge
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If you lose your mark its gone forever

dapper cradle
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all shitposting aside, these changes are cringe as hell

spice surge
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Bro my mark doesnt even show because it seems like its capped at 14 debuffs or something 💀

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Obviously my mark is probably on my deathmark target, but still

ebon steppe
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No tracking specialized buffs or debuffs - these should be built into the default UI.

What does this mean?

sharp lily
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Ass

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Is what it means

ebon steppe
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Man idk

indigo sphinx
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Idk it just feels like they have such a massive gap to bridge between the base UI and addons stuff even if they do simplify some aspects of the gameplay. I kinda assumed they were gonna take several expansions to slowly do this, its crazy to think it might change before the end of the expansion.

coral ibex
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good now i can delete my omnicd that i only ever used to notice when my dumbass teammates died with défensives up

ebon steppe
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Is this some Microsoft thing or some Ion thing idk

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Is this even

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like

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fun?

coral ibex
#

too much dooming over ion jawning about theoretical changes that i guarantee aren’t even implemented in a closed dev build yet

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relax

spice spire
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When you’re a dps there’s 0 reason to run it outside of kick tracker

coral ibex
#

why do i even track kicks

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so i can see them overlap?

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not like seeing kicks makes pugs pay attention to them

spice spire
#

So you don’t overlap or you kick when you’re the only one up

ebon steppe
#

Without Omnicd, restealth will be a problem againkekdog

spice spire
#

?

indigo sphinx
ebon steppe
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Cuz tank couldn't see our vanish cds so they might just be

spice spire
spice spire
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Unless they need it

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Otherwise it’s on the rogue to deal with restealths

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I’d say like triple pull final room of priory is the one time I’d actively want the rogue to restealth (esp if iron wire)

ebon steppe
#

Uh ok but again

spice surge
#

I mean the idea behind toning down addon power is sound

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But in classic blizzard fashion its probably gonna end up not being great

indigo sphinx
#

For sure, it just sounds like they are going in with a mega heavy hand super quickly all guns blazing

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Which is concerning

haughty flicker
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i'd be more willing to trust their vision if they showed us what changes they're making to dungeons and encounters to make up for taking tools away from us

ebon steppe
#

What does this mean, like, we are gonna use that cd tracker instead of wa to track our dots?

haughty flicker
#

its a long way out though so we'll see

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what happens

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worst case scenario i just go be a catgirl again

ebon steppe
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Worst case senario i just go save the superearth

lusty kraken
#

Will be funny to see how they screw up

ebon steppe
#

But that's a lie cuz i know i will still be playing wow
Unless they removed caustic spatter from the game

haughty flicker
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Honestly I think these changes are much scarier for high keys than they are for raid

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And I don’t do high keys

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So I’ll just enjoy my housing

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Maybe go back to being aotc Andy

spice surge
#

Its significantly worse for healers too

haughty flicker
#

Yeah healers get fucked insanely hard by this

spice surge
#

Like for dps its like "oh man that kinda blows"

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Healers are like "they just deleted my entire ui" 💀

haughty flicker
#

Now I can’t be called out when I die with defensives up

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Back to always being healers fault

indigo sphinx
#

Yeah like not being able to track personals when trying to decide who needs external etc

pliant remnant
#

That's fine though, there are just too many healers in this game

haughty flicker
#

Real

little tulip
#

but now they can tweak holy priest/pres/mistweaver to be fun in harder content without breaking anything

haughty flicker
#

We need fewer healers

pliant remnant
#

Shut up @dreamy oak

royal lantern
spice surge
#

They definitely are

dreamy oak
#

i pick up a healer for 1 patch and they vaporise all healer uis

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mb mb

royal lantern
#

and as we saw with the halfasses garbage that is their "cooldown manager", they dont even know what needs to be tracked lol

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and it got 0 updates/was never mentioned again after releasing that half cooked garbage

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thats the energy they bring into something that needs 24/7 updates

pliant remnant
#

Yeah, I think if you're not fully dooming about this news after seeing the reeking dogshit that Cooldown Manager was on release, then I have to question your judgment

royal lantern
#

^

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IN THEORY its good

little tulip
#

i play outlaw without weak auras and i'vve got 89-94 parses on outlaw in 12s weak auras aren't great

pliant remnant
#

I have 0 faith in this company

royal lantern
#

the reality is "look fucking around"

little tulip
#

they just work out of the box

spice surge
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I think you missunderstood my point

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It wasnt that it doesnt matter for dps

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Its that its 100000000x worse for healers

royal lantern
#

like, blizzards version of "we wanna make stuff more visual clear and you not needing DBM for fights" will be "the void enemy will glow in void colors while doing a aoe dmg effect"

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lol

royal lantern
#

and not the actual gameplay/important stuff lmao

haughty flicker
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Deserved for playing shaman

little tulip
#

if this is really a good move for new players then it's gonna be fine but it just looks like a step back for long standing players who'll have to figure out how to fit into something that was working which is mid

royal lantern
#

assassination CD tracker not tracking kingsbane, no way to check the duration on anything you do, no crimson tempest, but HEY it has MUTILATE on it

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10/10

fallow canopy
little tulip
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hehe poison bomb procs but caustic doesn't have a spell effect 🙂

haughty flicker
spice surge
haughty flicker
#

Imagine using kingsbane in the first place

royal lantern
#

i mean SLIGHTLY more then just the CD eleem

spice surge
royal lantern
#

no pandemic timers aswell btw, just a kinda core mechanic of the game for decades now

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and ofc no way to track durations of anything at all

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but hey, they got this 100%, no problems at all

fallow canopy
#

tbh most implementations they do suck at the start and proggresively get better

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but its gonna suck at the start if they remove things and just hand the shitty version of w/e they do

royal lantern
#
  • its such a cheap excuse imo to say "its the first implementation"
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its not a new thing

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basic CD trackers/debuff trackers/dot trackers are not a new concept blizz never saw before

fallow canopy
#

not an excuse it sucks I'm just saying its basically a tradition at this point

royal lantern
#

and its hilarious how they even bring up "but gathering/AH addons should not get any changes"

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cant make stuff worse for bots and guys with automated AH addons to controll the market right

hallow glade
#

they are getting improved any day now

gusty mirage
desert cove
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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talk abot "making stuff visible without them"

fallow canopy
strange python
#

for mythic stix, are we dropping off boss to switch to bombshells?

coral ibex
#

no

spice surge
#

No

strange python
#

so is it just cleave?

royal lantern
spice surge
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If youre ever asking yourself "should i swap of the boss?" the answer as assa is always no

coral ibex
#

the assa answer to "are we switching off boss" is no

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full stop

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if your RL tells you to, gg

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they're an idiot

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ask why the ranged aren't doing their job

gusty mirage
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Toss a rupture call it a day

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If they ask why your damage sucks on them

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Start full sending CDs into them and do tank damage

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And be like pick your poison bud

coral ibex
#

it is literally a ranged job to damage the crabs enough that they walk into melee

hallow glade
#

other melee can taunt the crabs as well

strange python
#

i was about to say, with deathmark being on boss, didnt seem right to hardswitch to crabs

little tulip
#

our raid had a really bad ranged section until last week and we all gotta get adds til its on farm PogO

strange python
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so ty lol

royal lantern
#

go into logs and look at bombshell dmg above 80%

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and see half your ranged not doing shit

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and your boomkin just hardcasting starfall 24/7

haughty flicker
#

Well boomkin absolutely should be hard casting starfall

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That’s the entire point

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You play a build that lets you spam starfall 15 times to break crabs instantly

royal lantern
#

i swear, seeing your boomkin as #6 dmg on bombshells above 80% is a EXPERIENCE

haughty flicker
#

If those starfalls are doing hyena damage it’s your katamari players fault

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Unless the boomkin is pressing cds late that is

little tulip
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watching two warriors zug zug past the two barrels to hit the boss

haughty flicker
#

Definitely possible to be unethical

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But starfall spam is the correct play if done ethically

royal lantern
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you know who was in our top3 bombshell dmg

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the ret paladin

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god i love ranged players when they have fight mechanics

haughty flicker
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I think our enhance shaman was second on crabs

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With me being first

royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

Yes

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Above 80%

strange python
haughty flicker
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Brother click on what that damage was

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And if it wasn’t all caustic

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I stg

golden loom
royal lantern
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using WOTLK FIGHTS as an example for something in 2025

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insanity

haughty flicker
#

Not to mention I’m willing to bet that isn’t damage above 80%

royal lantern
# strange python

tell your RL to learn how2read logs and that he shouuld look at dmg above 80%

spice surge
#

Also youre not gonna do more if youre swapping

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Thats the point

coral ibex
#

your RL is dented unlucky

pliant remnant
#

Yep

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dented RL

haughty flicker
little tulip
#

rik and stix are bad rogue fights

haughty flicker
#

Tell your raid leader he’s a fucking idiot please

little tulip
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is safer statement prog > parse

coral ibex
#

he will literally do the same if not less damage by swapping

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the RL is an idiot

golden loom
#

I mean in this case you just stick to boss

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and still do damage to bombshells

coral ibex
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MM hunter is literally afk

golden loom
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and he thinks you did a good job

coral ibex
#

can't make it up

golden loom
haughty flicker
little tulip
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last season i had to do adds on bloodbound horror and i had more fun but also

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parse was green

haughty flicker
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On stix as rogue you aren’t really contributing to prog other than just doing mechanics properly

coral ibex
#

ask why these players are allowed to grief but you have to grief yourself for prog

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seriously

pliant remnant
worn marsh
manic anvil
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how can i add sockets to my neck pieces and rings? (provided item drops without one)

coral ibex
strange python
coral ibex
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show them this graph

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and ask them why your shadow priest is griefing

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ask why the MM hunter is griefing

golden loom
haughty flicker
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Gonna be honest it’s doomed anyway

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But also

golden loom
#

Never swap garf

haughty flicker
#

!rik

prisma monolithBOT
#

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
little tulip
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theyre just bad rogue fights, do it for prog and dont get benched lol

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come back in a few weeks

haughty flicker
#

I mean he’ll swap to hit bombshells, do 0 damage, and get yelled at anyway

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Because this guy is completely incapable of understanding specs have different strengths and weaknesses

golden loom
#

Can always do that and point out your own damage when swapping

pliant remnant
#

Of course you have to make adjustments, but he's trying to make adjustments to the wrong things/people

#

Bro has no idea what point he's trying to make

fallow canopy
#

tbh who do you trust more to do the ardous sacrifice, the rogue or rang*d players?

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I state my case

little tulip
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rl will probably lose some ranged if he pushes them to lose porse for add damage

haughty flicker
#

Also his argument about only having one dk is demented

little tulip
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raid group has to break for two weeks and boom

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prog potential ZERO

coral ibex
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aint no way your argument is "the ranged are holding the raid hostage so you have to meet their demands"

haughty flicker
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You can find hundreds of logs with 1 dk and the assa rogue not swapping

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I promise

pliant remnant
#

The ranged are the RL's wife's boyfriends

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He has to be nice to them

little tulip
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see i told u

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HUH

coral ibex
#

bruh if i found out that i have to swap to adds on assa because the ranged want to parse

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i would be crashing out so hard

worn marsh
#

Don't the ranged parse by hitting bombshells anyway?

golden loom
#

I mean just say you will swap and dont

fallow canopy
golden loom
#

Noone will notice

haughty flicker
manic anvil
#

how can i add sockets to my neck pieces and rings? (provided item drops without one)

haughty flicker
#

He’s already proven he doesn’t know how to see what damage sources are

haughty flicker
#

How would he know

balmy condor
#

oh

golden loom
#

What is he gonna do, vod review your every global?

balmy condor
#

not non-neck and ring

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just actual neck and ring

pliant remnant
balmy condor
#

yeh that thing

haughty flicker
coral ibex
pliant remnant
#

two for every neck and ring

golden loom
manic anvil
#

fantastic! thank you

fallow canopy
little tulip
#

if u want that kind of min max on raid join a 4 nights a week myth guild

fallow canopy
#

gottem

coral ibex
#

its that simple

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"im not hitting adds i want to parse" -> benched

little tulip
#

no let them hit enrage a few times

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and then

coral ibex
#

you are trying to parse on prog

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get benched kid

balmy condor
golden loom
#

As a melee dps this raid, my job is literally to parse

#

Theres nothing going on

little tulip
#

two warriors running past barrels to hit the boss 🙂‍↔️

balmy condor
#

split cleave 40 yards apart? Stupid fucking melee players not double vengeance jumping to get 3 globals off

little tulip
#

switched to outlaw feelsyarrman

fallow canopy
winged widget
# strange python

if you stay on Stix>you do good spatter dmg on the bombshells close to it (which should be almost all of them, honestly).
if you switch to bombshell:
-you do shit dmg on that single bombshell
-you will also, by default, do much worse dmg on all the other bombshells.
So, despite everything, switching to any bombshell is objectively worse bombshell dmg than simply sticking to Stix and cleaving all of them.

Your raid leader is "adjusting the comp" without understanding what a spec on your comp even does.
garf_sit

haughty flicker
fallow canopy
#

that sounds fun

golden loom
#

I hit whatever the caustic from boss hits and thats it

haughty flicker
#

I’ve already made it clear that’s what I’m doing yeah

balmy condor
little tulip
#

get a 2nd udk

haughty flicker
#

Although with how long adds live I’m gonna ct

balmy condor
#

3 seconds of running followed by 6 gcds of prep into envenoming once on a bombshell in africa and cleaving nothing

#

sounds like a genius plan

#

I wanna hear the full logic on that one

coral ibex
#

actual RL take

#

xd

pliant remnant
#

You know what you sound like, Whispyr?

winged widget
balmy condor
little tulip
#

i mean allegedly mage shouldn't target swap

pliant remnant
#

You sound like a

strange python
pliant remnant
bronze horizon
#

your RL needs to step down as lead if that's their take.

balmy condor
#

RL doesn't understand how spec works and we're the lazy ones

coral ibex
#

is the RL the MM hunter

haughty flicker
#

Whispyr of shit lazy mother fucker

coral ibex
#

tell me he is

#

please

haughty flicker
#

New name unlocked

golden loom
balmy condor
#

true

golden loom
#

its not their actual raidcomp

balmy condor
#

Whispyr of my RL wants 10 seconds of prep on an add that lasts 9 seconds

#

maybe a bit long

#

Whispyr of that RL is a dumbfuck

golden loom
#

like the logs the RL linked is from a 4:31 kill of stix

little tulip
#

the uh warriors were new guys and it was last 15 minutes of raid and we got it and pyrotechnic needle drooper is unlocked so

coral ibex
#

oh well what does this guy's log actually look like

haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

that's the other classic

haughty flicker
#

Because he didn’t click and see it’s all caustic damage

coral ibex
haughty flicker
#

While also not sorting for above 80%

coral ibex
#

the plot thickens

golden loom
balmy condor
#

find front page log of AoE fight
look inside
aoe

coral ibex
fallow canopy
#

what's the string for above 80% hp on the bombshells I got curious about mine

golden loom
pure moth
#

I may have swapped a few times to bomb on stix cuz near by. It died so whatever

coral ibex
golden loom
#

hit the bombshells!!

fallow canopy
#

big dam

desert cove
#

watch as your adrenaline rush goes on cd for 2 minutes

#

🙂

haughty flicker
#

Huge

#

I’d post mine but I was playing boomkin

balmy condor
haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

IM DOING BOMBSHELLS CAPTAIN

bronze horizon
little tulip
#

guys you can hit bloodbound horror as you run to the distant add pack i prommy

golden loom
fallow canopy
#

competing with the tank on bombshell damage above 80% lets go

balmy condor
#

if you die because you pressed killingspree on a bombshell would that raid lead call him a martyr

#

died for the cause

golden loom
#

held cds for 38 seconds -> get first ball -> deathmark at like 3 min..

haughty flicker
pliant remnant
#

died for the cause

#

wasn't a shit lazy motherfucker

balmy condor
#

god bless

haughty flicker
#

I think I got shot in the head on our kill pull

balmy condor
#

in shit lazy motherfucker we trust

#

amen

#

hallowed be thy name

golden loom
little tulip
#

the thorim fight in ulduar is funner if you do the gantlet prayge

balmy condor
#

thorim from the hit video game hearthstone?

#

I wish he was real

golden loom
#

I really wanna reclear... especially OAB I just threw up on my keyboard so crazy hard during kill pull sitmadge

balmy condor
coral ibex
#

implying youd ever run gauntlet when you absolutely have to be in the arena to start hitting thorim immediately for your parse

#

smh

bronze horizon
#

I know we won't because pins are for important information, but it would be funny to pin of shame the RL response.

coral ibex
#

why even play classic if ur not degen logging

little tulip
haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

very respectful

coral ibex
haughty flicker
#

we're too lazy shit mother fucker to make a pin

coral ibex
#

the fact that the pins are only helpful is amazing

cunning basin
golden loom
coral ibex
#

most servers like this for other games are full of nonsense inside joke pins

coral ibex
golden loom
#

sadly some of the giga geared warriors died and then server died.. gg

bronze horizon
#

Oh for sure, rogue discord is the most helpful class discord imo by leaps and miles. I just thought the thought of the pin of shame was funny and worth bringing up, not that we would ever actually do it.

balmy condor
#

yes exactly

#

very good

#

keep that up

cunning basin
#

the pin of shame is wild

balmy condor
#

my monthly review is coming up

#

I need to keep appearences positive

#

everyone say one nice thing about that raid leader

fallow canopy
bronze horizon
#

Mr raid lead is very good about being wrong.

#

Did i do it right?

cunning basin
haughty flicker
#

that raid leader probably watches wow youtubers

#

like whispyr

balmy condor
#

yes yes good, more, how bout uhhhhh..... I bet that raid leader's wife is happy

cunning basin
#

oh yeah i bet his wife is happy and he lives an incredibly meaningful and fulfilling life

balmy condor
cunning basin
#

shit cut that, cut that!

balmy condor
coral ibex
#

i bet he knows exactly what women want, despite being told

little tulip
#

actual behavior

fallow canopy
#

we interviewed some members to find out what the rogue dc said and this random not paid user had this to say

balmy condor
#

we're supporting his wife in her endeavors, it's positive

cunning basin
#

Hi i am Number One Dust Hater and I approve this message 👍

golden loom
#

on a real tho, respect to raid leaders doing the job noone wants to do

#

but its okay to not know everything

#

but keep doing what ur doing

#

🔥 💯 Crosstp 🧢

winged sun
#

🔥 💯 :Crosstp: 🧢

cunning basin
winged sun
#

OK PEOPLE AND PEOPLEMENT

#

TODAY IS THE DAY OF THE PEOPLE

#

IT IS TIME

haughty flicker
#

can i be peoplement

winged sun
#

TO WATCH

cunning basin
#

hey im one of those

winged sun
#

SOME MOTHERFUCKING TV SHOWS

golden loom
#

Comrade Zeross?

winged sun
#

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

#

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

coral ibex
cunning basin
nova aspen
#

i see zeross's mute timed out

balmy condor
#

if my guild perhaps possible received an undisclosed app linking 60 parse heroic feral logs saying his broke his wrist and has previous experience in mythic but doesn't link it

#

are we cooked

humble verge
#

lmao

coral ibex
#

hey at least they didn't link their io right

#

xd

earnest remnant
haughty flicker
#

hes a feral why would he lie

golden loom
#

feral is broken spec so sounds like a steal

balmy condor
#

this character specifically has 0 logs from before season 2

humble verge
#

but whisp

#

how is prog

balmy condor
#

gallywix will die

#

I will rest

humble verge
haughty flicker
#

wait is mugzee already dead

balmy condor
#

yes

haughty flicker
#

gally dies tonight

balmy condor
#

duality of doms

humble verge
#

idk about tonight

keen spruce
#

Damn my guild almost caught u guys

#

What happened

balmy condor
#

but it's diablo livestream in 20 min

#

and I all-nightered

cunning basin
#

wait i have to raid tonight