assassination

[novel swallow]

wouldnt the guide consider this?

[coral ibex]

it does

[rotund oak]

you can ask the man

[coral ibex]

your character is likely not identical to the bis list tho

[novel swallow]

of course

but 30 ilvl diff is quite large

[spice spire]

Well 20

[rotund oak]

yeah if u are 30ilvls below

or 20

[novel swallow]

671 vs 700

[rotund oak]

dont bother

[coral ibex]

i just follow what the robot says

[vapid gorge]

so are we saying it is better to run 85-tenure ring with gally and drop circe?

or just run gally and circe

[spice spire]

With exact stats you just sim

[spice spire]

Sim it

That’s what we’re saying

Also fwiw the 700 ilvl comparison was done before the nerf of the whatever stone

And now we run singers

[hidden bay]

depends on rest of your gear

[inland idol]

For rogue ASSA, What reward do you recommend I take?

[coral ibex]

i recommend you read the pins or the guide

[runic basin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[inland idol]

this bro right?

[coral ibex]

hard to tell really

[onyx linden]

ritual

its overtuned

did not get nerfed

for lessers, ritual far outweighs everything else

[inland idol]

ty potato

[onyx linden]

Keep it mind it may just get fixed pretty quickly, but ritual and echo are about the same anyway if it does get fixed

[cinder geode]

Do u ever get tired of being super sarcastic 24/7

I check in every once in a while to read pins and somehow ur sarcasm is a constant

[coral ibex]

no, i sometimes feel compelled when someone posts a picture of a pinned message with the exact answer they want and ask if this is what they're looking for

like bro open your eyes and read

[deep hemlock]

small pepe energy

[coral ibex]

might as well ping someone about it too

i feel im on the whole a positive contribution to the channel but i do rip sarcastic answers to those kinds of questions

[onyx linden]

Except that we don't have greater enchants only lessers, and the lessers have a tuning bug, so it actually is different.

[hidden bay]

check the pins twats

[inland idol]

XD

[drifting cloud]

cant believe pins arent updated in real time

what am I paying for

[inland idol]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-wo-w-undead-gnome-horde-gif-14842714

checko the pins

[waxen oyster]

people really put so much thought

into sub 1% gains

its comedic

[hidden bay]

bad news for you brother

1% is alot for assa since we suck

[native turret]

trueee

[dusk path]

Which Nightfall Flame Radiance trinkets shoudl I choose for catchup gear?

[grim jay]

Its alot if everything some people dont care adds up

[waxen oyster]

they all suck

[main monolith]

echoing void vs void ritual , what is the best for keys?

🦆

[runic hinge]

buff assa

[worldly lichen]

Howdy folks! Our guild is starting prog on M OAB today - was wondering if there are any tips / tricks that I could help bring as an assassination rogue (:

[shy axle]

anything i need to watch out for when catching up raid renown? lfr seems to give a lot less rep (450) than hc?

[spice surge]

Hit boss

[shy axle]

@worldly lichen watch out for the bait and rupture snipe the adds

[winged sun]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

i love my grp

[normal mist]

Good group, friends cool

[proud pelican]

Every time zeross cooks he confuses more and more ravenholdt members

And they send his builds in +10s

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[fallow canopy]

[ashen scroll]

any information about echoing void been gutted?

[balmy condor]

What

It’s fine

[balmy condor]

Void ritual is just the not nerfed values

[ashen scroll]

from another discord

[balmy condor]

Idk

Not that it matters right now even

Greaters are timegated

[ashen scroll]

how long to get it

[balmy condor]

Who knows what shit blizzards gonna pull

[ashen scroll]

3 weeks?

[balmy condor]

3 weeks yeah

[ashen scroll]

lul

[balmy condor]

It’s just lessers today

[runic hinge]

They can pull on deeze

[proud pelican]

Deeze? What on earth are deeze?

[balmy condor]

And then once you get the greaters

You enjoy them for 3 weeks

And then belt

[runic hinge]

Darkest night

[balmy condor]

And then you level belt

And then once belt is leveled

[proud pelican]

I hardly know her

[balmy condor]

3 weeks and then new patch

It’s the world of Warcraft fomo simulator

[amber brook]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[umbral sierra]

how tf do i get sanity in the vision fuckery thing

[balmy condor]

upgrades

[lethal arrow]

so now we're swapping to gush?

ffs

[balmy condor]

it's lessers

who fucking cares man

[lethal arrow]

but muh dps

[umbral sierra]

upgrade what exactly

[runic hinge]

The tree

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/whats-new-in-revisited-horrific-visions-no-limited-entry-three-new-masks-new-376895

[fallow canopy]

upgrade DN

[runic hinge]

Darkest night has an upgrade ?

[balmy condor]

It's called fatebound

say its name

[winged sun]

its just high key shit doesnt matter for raid anyway

[zenith plank]

is it just me or is echoing void doing like no damage?

[balmy condor]

not just you

[lethal arrow]

swap over to gushing wound

[balmy condor]

seems the last set of hotfixes

didn't actually make it servers

el classico

[lethal arrow]

good ol bli$$ard

[zenith plank]

oh EV was simming higher but i guess that makes sense its all bugged now?

[lethal arrow]

ye

then just swap back when its fixed

[zenith plank]

aight

[somber fractal]

if the last hotfixes didnt make it live isnt ritual the best?

[umbral sierra]

thxz

[balmy condor]

sure I guess

again, who fucking cares

[somber fractal]

i do

🙂

[balmy condor]

they're gonna hotfix the hotfixes

and then tune everything like 21 more times

and greaters are timegated 3 weeks

[lethal arrow]

yeah so by tomorrow lessers will be better than greaters

[balmy condor]

you're playing with 1% versions of 2.5% versions of enchants

[lethal arrow]

and gereaters will never come

[zenith plank]

i mean i just want twilight dev so i can see beams go woooooooo!

[balmy condor]

what are we fomoing over

the system is already fomo

[lethal arrow]

and now theyre gunna read twitter and untimegate it

then we get 300 frags compensation

oh wait wrong game

[balmy condor]

[zenith plank]

yea thas maple

[balmy condor]

stay in your thread crash

[zenith plank]

GOOD OL NEXON

[balmy condor]

I will have you court marshall'd

however you spell it

idk just woke up

[lethal arrow]

maybe they will untimegate it

surely

[umbral sierra]

arnt these things gonna be outdated by s3

[lethal arrow]

yes

or rather not really

since they can only be put on s2 items

so they wont even be useable

[balmy condor]

yeh

it's 1% now

2.5% in 3 weeks

and gone in 8-9

[lethal arrow]

0 by s3

[balmy condor]

What the fuck is that

[void pecan]

A good flavor of zero sugar monster.

[lethal arrow]

i remember max saying this one was good

during RWF

[balmy condor]

I ain't ever seen this shit in my life

[lethal arrow]

i dont drink energy drinks so i cannot give an opinion

could be goated

[balmy condor]

you don't drink energy drinks but you're a wapper?

are you AI

[dapper cradle]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[dapper cradle]

!dryshiv

bro what the fuck

[balmy condor]

MY STORE SAYS THEY HAVE IT BUT THEY DONT

WHAT THE FUCK

ruined

[waxen oyster]

whispyr looks like a monster consumer

surprised you dont know that flavor

[balmy condor]

I am a monster consumer

there are

uh

12 empty cans

in arms length

(I was really sick this week and haven't cleaned up a lot)

[tawny coyote]

hopefully they buff the enchants like the ring

[split maple]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179

That's the reason. Not that you're a monster consumer and this is expected behavior

[timber meadow]

it'll feel good to get that cleaned up. can relate lmao

[stable cove]

echoing void bugged

apparently

[balmy condor]

Blizzard Did It Again - FIXED

ECHOING VOID FIXED USE ECHOING VOID AGAIN ITS FINE

As a reminder, greater enchants are not available for another 3 weeks, only lessers. The system is infinitely farmable, read about all the things here

[waxen oyster]

all the 20 minutes of content

we have rn

[stable cove]

dh disc says go gushing wounds rn cuz its doing great? anyone know?

[balmy condor]

go whatever

[waxen oyster]

also @fallow canopy that top ring sims really well for my setup too

[balmy condor]

they're lesser enchants anyway

[waxen oyster]

well the high crit ones

it seems only the crit mast rings beat circe

[obsidian walrus]

/wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[cinder steppe]

does anyone knows if i faction change tonight after raid night, do i lose vault?

[sour elm]

should I trust sims saying myth ring beats out circe? Not sure if blizz borked something

[cinder steppe]

or should i just change after the reset before doing anything?

[balmy condor]

yep

[sour elm]

ok ty

[waxen oyster]

Depends on your gear

crit>mast ring outsims for me

anything else doesnt

[hollow river]

wut is dis

[cinder steppe]

anyone knows?

[bronze pike]

stealing this reaction image

[hollow river]

im bout to go get some monster whispy

which kind do i get

[bronze pike]

whiteclaw

[balmy condor]

you wouldn't lose vault from a faction change, no

[hollow river]

which one is the most dps

[sudden brook]

Oh hey

[bronze pike]

no mastery

trash it

[tawdry flume]

need that for my hunter 🥲

[fallow canopy]

ring buds

[sudden brook]

what about this one

[cinder steppe]

thanks!

[bronze pike]

no verse

icky

[humble verge]

this + jastor is giga

i have it

[waxen oyster]

thats actually the lowest sim

of the crit mast rings for me

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

HOLY SHIT

IT HAPPENED

[waxen oyster]

mfw i remember theres 3 this season

rookery one

cinder

and top

[balmy condor]

NITROCLAD STRIDERS

[spice spire]

?

[waxen oyster]

oh wait top has a mast>crit

[balmy condor]

?

WHY ARE YOU NOT HYPED

THEY ARE NITROCLAD

[humble verge]

[waxen oyster]

nice socket week buddy

[inland escarp]

There’s 2 in top

[spice spire]

Dog are you good

[humble verge]

whisps autism leaking

[balmy condor]

fuck you quake you're never happy for me

[waxen oyster]

I like how a socket for me is almost the same value

[humble verge]

whisp, gz on mug kill

[balmy condor]

ty

[waxen oyster]

as replacing circe for a 681 crafted

[haughty flicker]

a real friend wouldve been hyped just because their friend was hyped

that was pretty fucked up

[waxen oyster]

@humble verge ml ring being a dps loss at 684

[strange python]

so is it a buy a lesser void ritual and then a greater echoing void after they fix it?

[humble verge]

we actually 2shot bandit and killed mug in 10 and gally in 10 pulls

on monday

done 30m before raid end

[balmy condor]

it's a don't buy anything, or if you want to farm more, buy everything idk

it's infinitely farmable

[humble verge]

ur mother

also its cb ring

[strange python]

you can buy all enchants? i thought you only got one lmao

nvm

[waxen oyster]

500 currency

so do more visions

[balmy condor]

it's just a currency you farm yeah

[waxen oyster]

if you wanna fuck around

[fresh kelp]

they're so cheap u can just spam buy them

[waxen oyster]

gonna be way faster once you get more talents

and can use all the masks

[humble verge]

aint noway, theres a woman besides me on the treadmills, better hope my spaghetti dont fall out of my pockets

[bronze pike]

its not turboclad

0/10

bozo

[spice spire]

Cardio in this economy?

[humble verge]

yes

its restday but

bored

[red schooner]

I did cardio today, cardio should be banned in any economy

[spice spire]

Why do cardio when you could just lift more?

[runic hinge]

Not everyone likes pulling their lats

[spice spire]

Bro I did it once last year because I was benching two of ur pops as rep weight

Sit down Tony

[runic hinge]

My pops weighed less than me

Not impressed

[red schooner]

I dunno I can't motivate myself to weight lift

Cardio I can at least just kinda mindlessly power through

[spice spire]

I’m sorry for not repping 300 when I pulled my lat Tony

I’ll do better next time

[spice spire]

I’m the opposite

[red schooner]

Audiobooks carry me through cardio

I just have a book on the go that I can only listen to while on the treadmill

[spice spire]

I just mindlessly play angry music and lift until I can’t feel the muscle anymore and the voices leave (not actual voices, just endorphins replacing sad vibes)

[red schooner]

Also a very good option

[runic hinge]

I believe in you champ

[spice spire]

I mean I do rep tree hundo but I just wasn’t during the lat incident

[daring imp]

void or gushing for now?

[balmy condor]

whichever

[obsidian walrus]

vanish isnt really an offensive cooldown in ST anymore is it? Other than to apply mark

[balmy condor]

depends on your talents

[obsidian walrus]

yeh. so im looking at most builds not having improved garrote

[balmy condor]

well, main build in raid and one build for very high m+ keys

[obsidian walrus]

sorry i meant for raid. for M+ ive been going bleed

which uses vansish to spread more empowere bleeds for aoe

[stable cove]

is the sim for ritual accurate

its giving me more stats than the tooltip says

[humble verge]

man

[granite sentinel]

anyone have bis simming gear list?

[humble verge]

im surprised ive lasted 35min on the treadmill

i usually hate it

[gritty laurel]

wowhead does, but bis is a meme

[waxen oyster]

bis

[granite sentinel]

not a meme bruh

[waxen oyster]

It is a meme

[spice surge]

The only useful thing on a bis list would be trinkets

But theres also trinket sections that explore that in more detail

[waxen oyster]

trinkets+jastor

[spice surge]

So theyre practically useless

[hollow river]

whats ritual's proc rate?

[waxen oyster]

everything else is variable

[granite sentinel]

ok HIGHEST simmin build bruh

[haughty flicker]

which version of 80 sidegrades are you looking for

[gritty laurel]

that changes depending on what gear you have available, and since there's no way to guarantee what drops you get, you're best off just simming what you have

[waxen oyster]

Oh wow you simmed 80 combinations a second time

[hollow talon]

when are they bringing back maw rattle

[waxen oyster]

and a different setup came out 1st

the second time

[haughty flicker]

based

[waxen oyster]

bis hasnt been a thing since

wod?

[spice surge]

1.5 iirc

[waxen oyster]

if you still remember wod you a unc tbh

[spice surge]

Since i dont think they nerfed the procrate, but i could be wrong

[hollow talon]

wow is an unc game tbh

[waxen oyster]

How do people remember stuff from 3-4 expacs ago

[hollow river]

thanks

[waxen oyster]

i dont even remember what i ate last week

[past bobcat]

so pin post is basicaly use void rit until whatever blizz decides to do

[gritty laurel]

use twilight devastation because who cares anyway and laser beams

[waxen oyster]

isnt “best” lesser

[stable cove]

idk other disc say to use gushing

[waxen oyster]

like a 1% gain total

over no enchant

[gritty laurel]

yup

managing your dry shivs properly is a bigger gain

[waxen oyster]

swipe your card

go brown orc

bigger gain

[hollow talon]

im picking twilight devestation because its cool

[waxen oyster]

isnt it hp based

so would do more for tanks

[spice surge]

Not anymore

[hollow river]

like, for other classes?

[rose inlet]

If I have to do goonsquad soaks is it better to delay kingsbane or just send and lose the last few sec of uptime

[proud pelican]

Should we all pick twisted appendage?

[winged sun]

higher than dk before i have to swap to sub

ez ez

[proud pelican]

To stick it to the man

Idk zeross boss not dead yet

Uh could catch you

[winged sun]

nope

xd

still won

[proud pelican]

Zomg

Link build

So I can use in 12s

[restive falcon]

W void ritual

[hollow talon]

link build + today's meals + gym plan pls

also need average hourly water intake ty

[gentle belfry]

Is sub looking like the M+ move for s3? Didn't get to read the retrospective

[true tapir]

yo im using shiv macro with bleed build and somehow tea doesnt go off when i shiv

[humble verge]

@spice spire almost done quake

[visual kelp]

anyone know if you can farm all the lesser corrutions for testing

[hollow talon]

ya the currency is farmable

no cap

on it

[visual kelp]

tyvm

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

[proud pelican]

Fr fr?

[spice spire]

Good shit tho king

[humble verge]

me on that cardiogrind

[spice spire]

Get ur weight up you’re weak if you don’t

Anyway yoinking that one

[hollow talon]

ong

[umbral sierra]

the portal bitches were showing on my map

now they arnt

i cant get into the mage porti n mage tower is game bugged

[spice surge]

Theres literally no info yet on anything related to s3

[umbral sierra]

also does having brann in the visage increase enemy scaling

[gentle belfry]

Ah

[south nebula]

Yeah plus the bitch doesn't stealth with you and pulls adds

[umbral sierra]

ight

im doing this on my vengence dh

so no stealth issue just

wanted to check if she made it so they had more hp

[prisma shadow]

So void ritual is bis atm?

[pure moth]

Yup. Thats what it currently says

[waxen oyster]

you’re in combat

just meld

[umbral sierra]

cant walk in

5/5 portal dead

[waxen oyster]

probably in combat with something

[umbral sierra]

HOW AM I IN COMBAT WHEN THE COMBAT ICON ON MY PORTRAIT ISNT THERE

[waxen oyster]

Idk i dont use stock ui

[proud pelican]

It’s probably something like

Combat

Just vanish

[umbral sierra]

this discord is actually brain dead

[proud pelican]

[waxen oyster]

Usually if you couldnt go in it was due to combat

how it was all of s4 bfa

[runic hinge]

You’re targeting the tumor at 25% health. You hit it and you’re in combat with it still

[umbral sierra]

do u see 2x sword?

[past bobcat]

Whats the reasoning on swapping to sub as opposed to just playing full raid talents ass with spatter

[runic hinge]

Okay do you see the 25% health tumor you’re targeting

[umbral sierra]

yes

that i smelded

and am not in combat with?

[runic hinge]

I’d go kill it

[proud pelican]

Maybe the 2x glaives on your characters back indicates combat

lol just go kill tumor it will probably fix

[subtle kiln]

That sounds brain dead

[cerulean walrus]

Bro is raging

But muh Shadowmeld!

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-shut-up-kindergarten-cop-gif-14989325

[runic hinge]

Meld known for working flawlessly

[cerulean walrus]

Certainly the epitome of code

[subtle kiln]

floor tumors that aren’t fully killed work flawlessly too

[subtle kiln]

Nah that’s

[waxen oyster]

those tumors are buggy as shit

if not “dead”

[proud pelican]

An echoing void update

[cerulean walrus]

@balmy condor ah yes specifically Rogue and DH. Why am I not surprised?

[subtle kiln]

Insert a certain dev here

[wise gull]

ok im dumb how do you unlock the first mask

[waxen oyster]

do all 4 objectives

[humble verge]

crazy, years since ive seen this not being ally sadge

[balmy condor]

Item devs

[subtle kiln]

must be same devs assigned to sub tuning

[waxen oyster]

theres a rogue dev?

[subtle kiln]

No

[waxen oyster]

thought it was just an intern on lunchbreak

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-milton-stephen-root-stapler-gif-3810312

[nocturne quail]

bro how 3mil on a boss

[hollow river]

[winged sun]

?

u can do that if u want

i wont do it

[lusty narwhal]

Lol holy as if they timegated cosmetics as well

[gentle belfry]

Got two myth track main stat vers off-pieces (cape/waist in vault)
I'm assuming the most efficient move, given this gear, is to ignore those (and wait for ones with correct stats) and just craft 681 bracers, belt, gloves, OH + get hero gally ring with Dinars (haven't spent them yet) > then just upgrade all my hero gear in order of importance with crests?

Ive simmed all of the above, just looking for some insight

[hidden bay]

You just sim everything

Fuck belt craft, we get one soonish

There’s no “correct stats”. We prefer different stats, yes. But at your current gear it doesn’t really matter

Just grab the ilvl for cloak

Crafting offhand? Try to get a hero dagger from heroic raid if possible

If you can’t get your hands in general on mythic gear you can surely upgrade heroic gear yes

[graceful bane]

lesser void ritual atm till echoing is potentially working with our other abilities right?

[runic hinge]

There’s like 80 different combos of gear that all sim the same. There is no “correct” pieces

If you get verse haste on a belt you can craft a neck or cloak with crit mastery and it’s all the same

[hidden bay]

Offhand is so irrelevant

[runic hinge]

The least relevant piece

[gentle belfry]

I agree with the offhand - just havent happened to get one yet (been back for a week, so just racing ilvl to get into 12s). My current offhand is hero, but shit stats.
As of right now mythic gear is vault-only for me*
So given all that: Grab the cape > pump hero pieces in order of prio based on sims > get gally ring with dinars

[subtle kiln]

There are no shit stats for assa

[lyric gate]

there are

intelligence and strengh

[subtle kiln]

lol no

[gentle belfry]

lmao

[subtle kiln]

I’m sure he’s running an Intel dagger

[lyric gate]

2

[subtle kiln]

3

[gentle belfry]

So would you say I should upg this just for ilvl sake? after more important gear ofc

[runic hinge]

Offhand is least important. Upgrade it last

[gentle belfry]

ye ofc ofc

[runic hinge]

Lowest stat budget

Also there are no bad stats. I’m gonna say it a third time

[gentle belfry]

are we getting a legendary belt soon or something btw?

[runic hinge]

Crit is good mastery is good haste is good vers is good

[subtle kiln]

Expecting anyone to listen in here

[humble verge]

everything is good in moderation

we do like mastery tho

[lyric gate]

not me

i hate mastery

[sonic pagoda]

yoyo which enchant to buy?

[haughty flicker]

Fiery weapon

[sonic pagoda]

from the corrupted visoions whyspers guides doesnt say just sayd dont buy echoing void

[runic hinge]

Scroll more in the pins

[sonic pagoda]

are you guys buying void ritual then?

more stats?

[runic hinge]

Yeah. I did

They’re all like 1% and it’s the lessers so just don’t pick echoing void til it’s fixed and you’re fine

[sonic pagoda]

I got fuckin raid in 30 mins lol and im expected to play both assa and outlaw lmao

[worthy rose]

has the new delve belt come out yet

i just read on reddit and it seems interesting

[gentle belfry]

its a month out

[worthy rose]

oh

next month?

[gentle belfry]

June 17th

[worthy rose]

wouldnt it be dead content by then

[spice surge]

As long as you have one it doesnt really matter

[worthy rose]

pretty sure most people are already maxed mythic track gear by now

is the belt good or naw

worth farming for or is it dead content on arrival

[spice surge]

Its not like either one is unplayable because you have an enchant that sims 0.15% worse

[gentle belfry]

s

[spice surge]

Presumably going to be like circlet

Ie absolutely worth getting this season, probably sticking for most of next season

[worthy rose]

damn

more content i gotta slog through

oh wow going to arathi highlands for the event

thats a dead area that hasnt had much attention

[subtle kiln]

delves are best content

[worthy rose]

oh they get a new mount too

looks like blizzard finally realized theres delve content

and giving it attention

[humble verge]

NOWAY, DRAGON WIT DA HAT

[gentle belfry]

Lmao thats what I said 💀

NEW MOUNT?

[worthy rose]

AYE AYE CAP'N

excellent another timewalking mount htat i can spend forever farming for and never get

just what i needed

[humble verge]

just a bigger reason to level up more alts for

[viscid spear]

Got a cloak in Vault, now I can have my Glider again.

[exotic hearth]

Since echoing void is bugged, are we doing void ritual?

[gentle belfry]

twilight dev is 2nd to that right?

void ritual 3rd

[humble verge]

im excited for our new t2

wait wtf

its not blue

[gentle belfry]

Are we able to arbitrarily change helm ench btw? or locked into one

[humble verge]

oh

that was the 3rd potential recolour

[austere flame]

do we just use any enchant for now? or hwat

[iron vapor]

is that a PIRATE DRAGON?!

[hollow river]

You can buy more and change them

[worthy rose]

hold up helm enchant?

fuck im behind on all the wow news

[worn geyser]

wait we dont get blue one? which two do we get

[worthy rose]

what is this helm enchant and how do i get one

[humble verge]

i think we only get the recolour u see in this

[nimble tartan]

visions are cool i never playedthem before i like it a lot!

[humble verge]

idk if we get the t2 from last event tho

[nimble tartan]

i did 2 mask im not gonna try 3 mask cause it seems too much of a pain

[worthy rose]

black bloodfang armor

is it voidfang

[nimble tartan]

does anyone know if I can get the hogger shard this week

[worn geyser]

L colors

[humble verge]

idk, black looks cool

[severe oyster]

3 was incredibly easy you'll be fine

[sudden brook]

Blue is in the code fwiw, its from a diff event iirc

[humble verge]

yeah ik

i feel the red is just

TOO Red

imo

[nimble tartan]

i get like no time i feel like

[worn geyser]

its like bronze not black tho

[humble verge]

also not a fan of red

[exotic hearth]

Where's the black from???

[worthy rose]

we need a red with gold trim like valeeras outfit

[humble verge]

true that

poopy colour

:3

[worn geyser]

if it was all blacked out it would be sick af

[restive falcon]

since echoing is bugged we just yolo whatever corruption we want or just go safe with void ritual?

[green oasis]

what is the best glyph to get from the visions shit?

[worthy rose]

how do you have this on helmet?

is it profession locked

[gentle belfry]

Ahh ok ty

[restive falcon]

i did the visions

[worthy rose]

visions?

gawde im missing out on so mcuh on wow

[balmy condor]

yolo

they all suck

[restive falcon]

focus on your key! i am watching stream and was gonna ask but yk im

[gentle belfry]

Am I slow? I cant seem to manually add 681 crafted to top gear sim

[iron vapor]

do you have the required crest upgrade thingies/sparks?

max out the materials bit above it and it should work

[gentle belfry]

[spice surge]

Uncheck the "only seasonal ilvl"

Or do a 675 one and upgrade it via the + after scrolling down, but thats more work

[gentle belfry]

hmm might have to do that, unchecking doesnt seem to work

[haughty flicker]

you can still just add them despite the warning

[spice surge]

Well you have "requires spark and crests" checked

Oh nvm you maxed it

But ye just press it

[gentle belfry]

ty sensei

thats the move

[weak copper]

got a lil assa question

what reason could there be for top 50 m+ rogues to craft wrists with haste vers?

[balmy condor]

sims higher

[weak copper]

okay, next question, why not just killer queen's wrists in that case, higher ilvl? also crit haste

[spice surge]

A. Murlok is a horrible website that frequently shows inaccurate shit and shouldnt be used
B. Stats doesnt really matter

[balmy condor]

they had it in their inventory and it simmed higher

[worthy rose]

ilvl beats all

if you have a mythic killer queen wrist then you dont have to craft

but if you dont then 681 is the best ur gonna get

vault luck and all

[prime hull]

What do we use instead of echoing void now? Gushing wound?

[worthy rose]

also you can be just like me

look up a person on murlok

choose ur favourite dude

copy everything theyr doing

down to the T

[weak copper]

okay, i guess im just surprised that a crafted mastery + crit isn't better, is there some point where it stops being better

[worthy rose]

based chianbleed

and watch as @balmy condor loses his mind

why even bother thinking about it

let someone else do the thinking for u

[balmy condor]

nop, it's just all stats good and no stats bad

[worthy rose]

just unga bunga the game

[iron vapor]

depends what other stats you have?

[gentle belfry]

[worthy rose]

you need to sim for stat weightings

if you want to do it properly

[spice surge]

No

[worthy rose]

blind sending it on crit mastery isnt always the best idea

[spice surge]

You just sim your items

[balmy condor]

I'll throat punch you

[worthy rose]

sim for stat weightings bro

if ur crafting gear

[spice surge]

No, you just sim the items

[haughty flicker]

stat weight sims in the year of our lord 2025

[snow hamlet]

[spice surge]

Or just equip whatever you feel like, its gonna be close enough to the best anyway

[worthy rose]

do the stat weightings i dare u

[runic hinge]

Please stop

[subtle kiln]

Just mute them

[iron vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-heads-stop-making-sense-david-byrne-youre-right-logic-gif-17714621

[timber meadow]

Vibe gearing is fine - all stats are decent on assa you legit won’t be too far off

[iron vapor]

that's not the way boss. You gotta obsess over wether crit/mastery or haste/mastery is 0.001% more damage

[prime hull]

I'm going full vers because assassination is very squishy.

[runic hinge]

Based

[iron vapor]

I'm not, I'm hard as fuck.

[weak copper]

i sim around 2.3m st with my current gear

is that around the normal?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[timber meadow]

No idea but sounds sick

[weak copper]

wicked sick

[subtle kiln]

2.5 at 681

[gentle belfry]

Upgrade jastors 1st or craft 681 gloves/bracer?

[iron vapor]

SIM. IT.

[gentle belfry]

I need ilvl so I have to craft idk why Im asking

[waxen oyster]

big ilvl bigger dopamine

[gentle belfry]

no 670+ > no entrance to 12s even with 2950io

[iron vapor]

though given that 681 bracers are a 26iLVL upgrade don't bother simming

[gentle belfry]

thought as much

[waxen oyster]

its ok i still get declined to 12s at 680

[gentle belfry]

lmao\

[subtle kiln]

imagine not gearing a better class at this point

[iron vapor]

likewise. all 12s timed comfortably, most +2, DECLINE MOTHERFUCKER

[waxen oyster]

funny thing is we're not even a bad class

just, not the literal best

[gentle belfry]

felt 😦

[spice surge]

Assa is good

[subtle kiln]

one of the three spec is playable

[runic hinge]

It’s just being a dps

[royal lantern]

assa is like, #4 or #5 m+ dps lmao

[waxen oyster]

yeah by literal best i meant

[subtle kiln]

KS and sub tuning killed those

[waxen oyster]

1 or 2

[spice surge]

Outlaw is good too if you can stomach KS

[iron vapor]

get fucked

[waxen oyster]

You need absolute best comp for when your tank tries a pull

fails it twice

and ragequits the group

[iron vapor]

that's how they do it on MDI

[worthy rose]

not 3k? DECLINE

[runic hinge]

I can’t. I tried. Third one in and my stomach actually turned

[spice surge]

Fair enough

[worthy rose]

bros not wearing any pants

[waxen oyster]

idk whats with tanks lately

trying to do gigapulls

when they're not good enough to

[subtle kiln]

mdi

[waxen oyster]

rather watch baseball

than basement nerds do the same dungeon for at best a prize pool thats worth less than flipping burgers

[prime hull]

I enjoy telling priests to penance me and then pressing killing spree. They are always horrified.

[worthy rose]

outlaw is most fun on floodgate

[royal lantern]

big pulls are fun

thats all

[worthy rose]

where u get to teleport around with the circles on you

[royal lantern]

you actually use stuff in big pulls

small pulls are just "use your 1min cd at the start and then spam 1 aoe button and active deffensive on repeat"

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but average tank who tries it

doesnt do big dam

afk at the wheel

[naive crown]

ok i see echoing void is bugged, what is the recommended corruption for this week then?

[royal lantern]

almost all people in pugs are that

its just way more noticable on tanks cus they die

[balmy condor]

anything else

[naive crown]

lol!

[waxen oyster]

i mean the enchants dont matter

[naive crown]

i'll just sim if those are updated

[waxen oyster]

they’re all so minor

difference between a good and bad race in wow

[naive crown]

yeah but raid blah blah

[waxen oyster]

is likely bigger than good and bad enchant

[tall atlas]

Am I officially the sudden demise champ btw?

[runic hinge]

Take gushies or void

[royal lantern]

and that race difference is allready a meme

[waxen oyster]

yeah

unless you play vulpera

[balmy condor]

but they're all the same

[waxen oyster]

or nightborne

then uhh….

[naive crown]

oh

got it ty lol

[royal lantern]

i literally got 99s as one

"racials matter" mfs when they lowroll on crits:

[waxen oyster]

to me its usually not about racials

but the type of person who unironically plays

male draenei

etc

[royal lantern]

Hunters have a good reason for that ok

[waxen oyster]

wym

[royal lantern]

male draenei Gun reload animation

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-winchester-trigger-arnold-schwarzenegger-gun-winchester-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-17130125

literally the terminator flip

[waxen oyster]

ehh

male dwarf gun animation

[royal lantern]

• if you play male draenei

you dont play a Elf

which is a automatic Win

[balmy condor]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[feral mason]

I play as a zaqali with the toy because the animations arent done

so when you sprint you just look like you’re tposing

[waxen oyster]

pretty sure

dh animations never got completed for any race besides belf/nelf

so if you toy into any other race it bugs out

[royal lantern]

well yeha?

[waxen oyster]

also bugs out with old fem belf model

when they used to have smaller weapons

[plain spruce]

is the enchant bugged for all specs or just assa

[hollow river]

rogue and dh

[royal mauve]

We just going void ritual then till its fixed?

[worthy rose]

@balmy condor do you have that list of hte best races for rogue again

i refuse to play orc tho

!races

!racist

[hollow river]

Then just pick what you like

[worthy rose]

i mean im human atm

but human model look stoo chunky

[balmy condor]

open bloodmallet idiot

[royal mauve]

Tauren bis

[hoary lake]

Which corrupted enchant do we take since echoing void is bugged?

[worthy rose]

no u

bloodmallet only has trinkets

[hollow river]

[waxen oyster]

how does fem human look too chunky

[worthy rose]

have u seen nightelf and blood elf

void elf too

[waxen oyster]

ok belf you have a point

[worthy rose]

daggers also look bigger on the elf models

for whatever reason

[waxen oyster]

they made them giga in 7.1

[runic hinge]

Fake news

[waxen oyster]

and you know velf is a copypasta of belf

[worthy rose]

yeah

accoding to bloodmallet here

[hollow river]

Y

[worthy rose]

human is the best nondisgusting looking race

wtf

is this fake news

do i have to stay human

tragic

[waxen oyster]

idk nelf isnt thinner than human i think

[hollow river]

Ritual

[royal lantern]

you should teach Stu to say "Sim yourself" or "check pins" tbh

[waxen oyster]

they're taller however

Also human is a good race simwise

you just get more secondaries

[runic hinge]

I wish

[worthy rose]

oh well

guess i have to keep using the racechanger toy

[waxen oyster]

velf gets 50% off transmog

as a flavor racial

[worthy rose]

yeah but how often do you really transmog

[royal lantern]

mfs look at racials while not applying poisons

[waxen oyster]

2-3x a day

sometimes

[worthy rose]

bros burning through gold

thats nuts

shit gets expensive a full outfit is like 1k

i refuse to spend 10k to get the tirish and golad quest

[runic hinge]

At least 3 times a week I change my mog

[worthy rose]

and theres guys out here transmogging 3x a day

diabolical

the duality of the wow playerbase

[runic hinge]

Just don’t be poor

[worthy rose]

its hard man

i dotn got enough time to play the game

when i do play the game i just do keys or other shit

[haughty flicker]

im poor and still change transmog constantly

[worthy rose]

sadge

i could buy a wow token but why spend irl money

[haughty flicker]

[worthy rose]

i got other shit to buy

like a 5090

[hollow river]

[royal lantern]

buying a 5090 to play wow

and still have 21fps in towns

[worthy rose]

its hilarious coz im so economical that i dont use potions to do dungeons

and my friend donated me 50k right

and i still proceed to buy silver potions and not the gold ones

coz fuck those are expenisve

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha sure?

[hollow river]

I have millions of gold and use r2 pots

[royal lantern]

im using silver stuff outside of prog raids aswell l

[hollow river]

[royal lantern]

and like

r3 pots/flasks are cauldrons

now self used

not spending 3x the gold for a single flask/pot for that 80more stats in a shity +13 key lmao

[waxen oyster]

i mean if you want to larp as valerra

go velf

[haughty flicker]

huh

[worthy rose]

thats what i wanted to do

i think if legion remix comes and we can get some dagger that looks closer to valeeras daggers

il do it

race change and all

[haughty flicker]

valeera is a belf though why would you go velf

[worthy rose]

but until then iunno i just have whatever transmog

id choose void elf for the pure fact that i refuse to have orgrimmar as one of my hub cities

stormwind > org

void elf looks close enough to a blood elf anyway

[haughty flicker]

ive spent all of 3 minutes in org in the last several years

[gentle belfry]

Is there a reason I cant see the initial quest for helm ench questline?

I did /way to it and nothing

[balmy condor]

there's a map icon

[gentle belfry]

ah.. got it

[waxen oyster]

isnt valeera’s dagger just

shard of azzinoth

[haughty flicker]

both are glowing green daggers

but they are not the same glowing green dagger

as close as we're likely to ever get though

[waxen oyster]

legion remix would at most

give a recolor

not the green variant of ghostblades

i doubt

but then again og magetower gave us light and dark blue variants of ghostblade

[stable cove]

why do i see so many top rogues using mast flask in high key without signet

alchem sims higher

so weird

[balmy condor]

Blizzard Did It Again

Echoing void is still bugged and underperforming for some people (even after a hotfix it does seem to be fine every now and then but just avoid it and run something else, all the corruptions are close)

Gushing wounds seems good as a single target use

Twilight Devastation has been doing good in m+ but has a lot of rng and some people have mentioned accidentally pulling with it

void ritual is a decent overall pick
The system is infinitely farmable, read about all the things here

[balmy condor]

idk

discord is broken

[haughty flicker]

[hollow talon]

how long does it take to get the lesser corruption

[earnest quiver]

took me about an hour i just logged on and did it

[worthy rose]

had a whole argument in the trnasmog chat about it earlier

her dagger doesnt exist in the game exactly

[hollow talon]

shieeet so i gotta do like an hour before raid

[worthy rose]

but i thinkt he closest is the green challenge mode mage tower kingslayer

its either that green challenge mode kingslayer or its the shard of azzinoth

both com eclose

[barren yarrow]

who didnt get the void rune?

[scarlet wyvern]

from 17s/18s onwards, how much of a % difference has bleed build vs hybrid?

[waxen oyster]

like 30mins

[rain berry]

we have to wait 3 weeks for greater corruption? i dont understand if the visions are spammable

[fallow canopy]

the quest is not available so

[balmy condor]

blizzard needs you to log in more

[waxen oyster]

is echoing void back to 48

[rain berry]

oh the quest appear in 3 weeks

nvm then

[fallow canopy]

gotta get the fomo from the fomo

[past bobcat]

Is this actually fixed

[balmy condor]

yeah

[nimble tartan]

im using void ritual ❤️

[balmy condor]

I went and tested on a dummy

[waxen oyster]

did they nerf void back to its intended value

[balmy condor]

and it showed up in spell data

[balmy condor]

do not believe so

[waxen oyster]

because wasnt the sim done with void at like 48 per stack not 72

[balmy condor]

71

[waxen oyster]

just proc on opener

get another like 4k stats during cds

[stable cove]

guys i got rank 1 normal mugzee im goin pro

[nimble tartan]

can i go rng crazy with the stars

[humble verge]

[nimble tartan]

i might put thaton for fun

imagine...

[waxen oyster]

no put on beam to annoy people

with visual clutter

[spice surge]

Keep in mind theyre doing like 1/10 of the damage they did in BFA

Same with twilight dev, its not gonna rip across the pack and destroy them, youre gonna see the animation and go "wait did that miss or why did it do no damage?"

And then its like no, it didnt miss

[waxen oyster]

at least my assumption is sims were done assuming void value wasnt 71

since that was its pre nerf value on ptr

wasnt it

[hard river]

it is currently 123

[spice surge]

The greater that is

[hard river]

ah

[spice surge]

So yes it should be simming with the correct values, its just the tooltip thats incorrect

Greater tooltip says 82

But its 51% higher with 123, which is the same as 47 VS 71

So should be fine

[warm shard]

what corruption shoudl we be using since echoing void isnt working?

[ashen scroll]

check pins

[haughty flicker]

[ashen scroll]

its working now

[warm shard]

oh its working ok

[ashen scroll]

ye

[upper timber]

is echoing void supposed to do less damage than my weapon enchant (radiant power) this week because its lesser?

[spice surge]

Yes corruptions are pissweak

Even the greater ones

[upper timber]

ok

[worthy rose]

if theyr that weak are they even worth doing/getting

[waxen oyster]

lesser is like 1% gain

[vernal shadow]

2% is 2%

[polar cape]

Placebo corruption

[vernal shadow]

(In a couple of weeks when its not time gated)

[fallow canopy]

we are here sniffing and licking that 2% gain

(in 3 weeks)

[brittle shuttle]

this mean anything? i have lesser void ritual and my details aura shows the value for greater void ritual

[worthy rose]

lesser corruption this week and greater corruption next week?

[snow hamlet]

greater maybe third week

[worthy rose]

rip

[vernal shadow]

The proc shows up as this in details

So maybe

[brittle shuttle]

ye thats what i mean, doesnt show lesser

[winged sun]

are there no enchants that do crazy uncapped dps

or no one tested that yet?

[fallow canopy]

its prob just tooltip fuckery

[brittle shuttle]

void ritual simmed highest for me w higher target counts

max gear minus no jastor

[winged sun]

cringe week 1% dps gain

like whats the fucking point lmao

no one will like that except m+sers

cuz raiders get 3% every other week

xdddddddddddddd

[runic hinge]

I would never be a cringe m+er for 1%

[vernal shadow]

The buff proc shows as 123 on character as well (like on the buff bar)

[winged sun]

what does it sim in sims

71?

[haughty flicker]

healing officer seems to have gquit 30 minutes before raid

[fallow canopy]

good omen

[spice surge]

Its showing the values for greater

Does it actually give 123 is the question

Like in your stat panel

[fallow canopy]

nah it gives 71

its just as always

tooltip fuckery

[spice surge]

Yep then its no worries

[true lintel]

just double checking

echoing void is the move?

[winged sun]