assassination

[idle vine]

Is it sort of depressing to buy heroic jastor (I don’t raid, only m+) knowing the mythic version will always be unavailable to me

[haughty flicker]

i'd argue its less depressing than buying it knowing you'll have to just buy the mythic version later anyway

[fast phoenix]

i mean auth of depths always going to sim higher in patch fight, probably whats bumping it

[sick grove]

Where do I ask for help, I need help understanding ST dmg in mythic plus in keys +12 and up. Struggling with this

Thanks

[jaunty sky]

The best position to be in would be AOTC only player without any chance for mythic raiding and already having everything you could buy with dinars: 2 myth trinkets and hc jastor

[tall atlas]

you can get an addon that will change your gear for the talent builds you are in rather than just the spec

[wise plume]

i just wing it tbh and it works out fine

[elder plume]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[jaunty sky]

Bleed build:
Keep all 3 bleeds up
Keep deathstalkers mark rolling
Stay above 50% energy as much as possible
Use shiv charges efficiently
Vanish for deathmark if u don't need both charges soon

[lean plover]

staying above 50% energy on bleed build is less than half a percent gain, big loss if u fuck it up

[thin portal]

Guys I'm free from jury duty. Time to learn more sin plays

[sick grove]

Dang, I think thats my main issue, I spend a lot of my energy and I think I’m to impatient with my envenoms.. thanks friends!

[pliant remnant]

That's crazy

[restive falcon]

during our KB window, do we wanna still shiv > kb > shiv? or is it ok we shiv then do a Darkest Night proc to buff that?

i started playing around on mugsee last night with intial opener of shiv > kb > shiv then normally 1st charge of shiv back up i get darkest night, i shiv then send a big envenom but mostly getting 1shiv for rest of the burst windows, is that grief

[limpid aurora]

Hey hybrid build in m+ feels kinda bad with mastery>crit i see the top guys running a ton of verse. Well feels bad compared to bleed build

is verse required to make that build work well?

[fallow canopy]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[nimble tartan]

in dm kb window always double shiv, regular kb 1 shiv

then 1 shiv for darkest night lingering darkness buff in between

[restive falcon]

ahhh okay, tyvm

was told this and curious so thank u

[west crown]

can we immune scrapmaster sniper shot with evasion or cloak?

[wild surge]

<Stay above 50% energy for sanguine.> we still do this for bosses?

[balmy condor]

Cloak works

[balmy condor]

Guide good use guide

[indigo epoch]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[white sandal]

if you mean the mythic mechanic we can dodge it with evasion

[barren yarrow]

whats it called?

[tall atlas]

I’m in bed dm me I’ll figure it out

[kind swift]

Anyone know if race changing mid week will prevent me from entering my current lockout?

[tall atlas]

Is it your lockout or are you entering someone else’s

I.e does someone else have the same one

[kind swift]

It's my guilds myth lockout just don't want something odd to happen and not be able to continue this weeks prog

[tall atlas]

Well there isn’t a limit to how many characters can accept a lockout so you will be fine

[waxen oyster]

Am i missing something or is mugzee kind of uninvolved if you arent in a gaol group

[tall atlas]

If you had a lockout saved on that char there’s a good chance it will get wiped cos a race change kinda sorta deletes your character and remakes it

[kind swift]

Ok so I'll just have to accept it again I'm guessing and all is good?

[chilly marsh]

"Signet of the Priory and House of cards are EQUAL, pick whatever you can do at myth track" thats for raid right? for m+ signet is better right?

[coral ibex]

why would it be better

in m+

[chilly marsh]

stacks with burst always and dont lose stacks out of combat no?

i could be wrong ofc that's why im asking

[runic hinge]

There’s no difference in them either way

[coral ibex]

well you wouldn't use it desynced from your cds

ever

[jaunty sky]

The only difference is signet being annoying with your stats

Where you have to make sure that mastery is ALWAYS your highest

And even chaos flask plus ascendance plus jastor cant make something else higher than mastery

[humble verge]

NAH I SPAM ENVENOMS ON PURPOSE MAKING THE BUILD WORSE

maybe i should just play hybrid

[chilly marsh]

never really tought about it but real good info.

also how can i get the blood icon on my name?

[tall atlas]

Yeah

[tall atlas]

Big true but it probs is

[jaunty sky]

Pacemaker plus chaos flask on crit plus ascendance full crit

Is a lot of crit

I don't remember how much

[lyric crater]

question house of cards trinket do i use it on cd or just pair it up with DM ever time

[jaunty sky]

Always deathmark

[lyric crater]

ok though so

[chilly marsh]

i have like 12k crit and 24k mastery maybe its why it never was a problem for me before

[coral ibex]

pins

[digital venture]

Ik i'm supposed to sim but how is galy ring better than myth track trinkets?

[coral ibex]

because the stats + proc give you more stats than the ilvl implies

and you can get myth trinkets in the vault

[worthy rose]

for us non myth raiding heathens out there

circlet plus hero diamond is prob the two ring combo we will use

till the end of the season

[jaunty sky]

9k crit 22k mastery unbuffed rn according to armory but i still gotta upgrade a lot of shit

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[digital venture]

13k crit 21k mast here

[jaunty sky]

With signet? Might be too much crit for the edge case of things lining up

[tall atlas]

Yeah I was having this problem a couple weeks ago with signet proccing crit

Big sad

I just took some crit off swapped it for haste and vers

[digital venture]

nope. I have house of cards and pacemaker hc

[jaunty sky]

Then u good ez

[jaunty sky]

Yeah haste and vers are simming higher for me now too

[digital venture]

any eta for when raidbots is fixed?

[tall atlas]

Love a cheeky wee stat weight sim

[jaunty sky]

Nah on crafted gear is where i notice it

[tall atlas]

Do a stat weight

It’s not gospel

But it gives you an idea

But always sim potential upgrades. Just gives you more info and that’s never bad

[chilly marsh]

will prob get a mythic signet and an heroic jasper in 3 weeks i dont really raid mythics anymore so easier patch to go

[tall atlas]

Looks like you need some mastery haste gear bro

[uneven plume]

Are the sims stabalized?

[tall atlas]

Try simming some pieces in top gear see what happens

[manic haven]

How to sim to check my stats are in a place so signet is always giving mastery?

[jaunty sky]

I think when catalyzing my vers haste chest to mastery vers it told me to get crafted vers haste over mastery haste

[tall atlas]

You don’t you just fuck about with it

[jaunty sky]

Get the calculator out

That's what i did

[spice surge]

Idk just sim your shit with topgear

[tall atlas]

I mean that’s what I mean about simming it still

[jaunty sky]

Or try to have like 9k more mastery than crit

[spice surge]

If something puts your crit way higher than mastery its gonna sim worse anyway

[tall atlas]

Pacemaker tho

[spice surge]

What

[gentle belfry]

would this (whyspers wowhead setup) be the best talent setup for M+ general use? I noticed it didnt have KB so wasnt sure, since the rotation flowcharts included KB with no option to remove it

[spice surge]

yes

[tall atlas]

Is some instances with pace maker and the alch chaos you end up with more numerical crit than mastery and then it causes signet to proc crit

[spice surge]

Yes?

Again, the sim knows that and includes it

Just sim your shit

[gentle belfry]

how many dungeons would one swap to KB in for high keys in the current rotation? many of them or?

[chilly marsh]

i dont think you can get more than 10k in crit from procs. should be a safe spot

[spice surge]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[fathom flax]

Crit signet sucks

[gentle belfry]

tytyty

[tall atlas]

Well said

[winged sun]

[chilly marsh]

true but i really liked sim more when crit haste as better

[winged sun]

[chilly marsh]

bfs haste corruption was amazing you would dot and ticks every 0.2s

i got so many kill with that vendeta dmg dot + 100% crit so funny

[fathom flax]

Using CT in ST then exsang it all

[tall atlas]

Aw fuck remember exsang

[chilly marsh]

used to fidn someone doign quest vendeta and watchign the guy bleed lol

[tall atlas]

Remember death from above in raid

[chilly marsh]

that too

FOK META en antorus

[gentle belfry]

Do I just remove the shiv>tea/KB from this rotation for bleed?
I didnt see any other flowcharts in the pins but maybe Im rarted - returning player swimmies are on 👶

[chilly marsh]

they had to nerf it LOL

[tall atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-i-remember-memba-member-berries-gif-11218434

[chilly marsh]

that one as funny with fok doing more dmg than mut xD

[tall atlas]

I’ll still always miss soul capacitor from HFC

[chilly marsh]

capacitor + leg ring

[tall atlas]

Fuck yes bro knows

[chilly marsh]

there was a boss when you pulled all adds in her room bursted and ring would one shoot

[tall atlas]

Velhari?

That’s the only girl In there I remember

[chilly marsh]

yea

[spice surge]

Do the same thing

Just dont press kb

[gentle belfry]

so still tea shiv, gotcha ty boss

[frank trench]

on vexie mythic do you hold kingsbane for the shield drop?

err deathnmark

or just send and hope it lines up

[spice surge]

It should line up, unless you miss stuff

[sonic schooner]

@winged sun time to give a name to your build, zeross's build sounds bad

[spice surge]

But yes you'd hold

[winged sun]

idk

i thought about double shiv build but

[sonic schooner]

the bean grinder

[winged sun]

bleed plays double shiv too

so

hmm

bean grinder

[sonic schooner]

[winged sun]

[sonic schooner]

imagine dude "i m playing bean grinder this key"

would be so fun in voicechat

[runic hinge]

Ungarroted

[sonic schooner]

they ll go like "wtf this dude about?"

[winged sun]

idk if anything i'd call it poison build

i think its more fun and easier to understand

poison build vs bleed build

[dense cove]

With bleed build when fighting bosses do you always stay above 150 energy? It feels like the only way I can stay above 150 is if I don’t press envenom at all

[sonic schooner]

i d probably call it m+ no garrot tbh

[winged sun]

and hybrid has it's own category of being a mix of both

because this build literally only does poison dmg

apart from CT and ruptures

[sonic schooner]

well u would basically press envenom only for DN procs

[fallow canopy]

its in the guide 😄

[runic hinge]

Ct so strong. Maybe strongest button in the tree

[dense cove]

Oh! Indeed it is, thanks

[fallow canopy]

np

[sonic schooner]

specially on bosses CT aoe snapshot on top of forced induction

feels so good i swear

[winged sun]

spatter stronger

well its not a button i guess

[runic hinge]

lol

[sonic schooner]

remind me of something i made early this patch zero

wait

[runic hinge]

Spatter is really strong for where it is in the tree

[runic hinge]

And compared to ib

[sonic schooner]

i ve to change it again

[winged sun]

lol

[lean plover]

all icons are the same?

[stable cove]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[solid saffron]

Does anyone have a weak aura copy and paste for me that tracks the buffs and stuffs on enemies please

[sonic schooner]

you re pretty good

sorry

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

@solid saffron

[desert vault]

how much is the hot sauce buff worth? like % wise?

[solid saffron]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

Like 0.4% or something

[solid saffron]

ty g

[balmy condor]

Yah 0.5% if you’re lucky

[sudden brook]

And the last few items remain

[fallow canopy]

🤝

[thorn thorn]

[fallow canopy]

[wooden timber]

if a boss is almost dead (sub 10s remaining) and your rupture and garrote just fell off do you reapply them or just try to slam envenoms

[tight cave]

Your probably out of energy anyway, just stand back and watch him fall over 🙂

[balmy condor]

Can envenom

[wooden timber]

ok thanks

is there a rule of thumb for how long a dot needs to be on a guy for it to be worthwhile in terms of dmg

like in st

or is 10s fine

i did very well on sprocket but i cant tell if its because i farmed crests or if i played well and i was unsure how to play the last few globals if u dont mind checking a log review

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[wooden timber]

oh

[balmy condor]

Around 12

[balmy condor]

The last 10 seconds of your pull are not going to magically change your parse :P

[winged sun]

Is it worth refreshing CT during kingsbane whispyr?

2 targets

[balmy condor]

Yes

[winged sun]

Ty

[wooden timber]

it might im only r1 by 3k

and i am new to wow from ffxiv so i cant tell if its bc i farmed crests all day or if i actually played well

but i guess i shouldnt worry too much about it

if i could make it by like 7k and then it locks in that way id be happy but

[fathom flax]

My droptimizer says I have 2 upgrades from cartel chips, heroic jastor diamond and mythic jastor diamond

How good

[balmy condor]

Realistically it’s a mix of people extending + good rng + playing good + crests

[wooden timber]

guess its good to just try and learn from it

[balmy condor]

You’re playing a spec with a pull to pull variance of like 300k

So

Just get lucky and have a good kill time lmao

[wooden timber]

wow just like ffxiv

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Insane

[wooden timber]

i would like to be able to get minor gains from doing small things correctly at least

but it is what it is

[wooden timber]

ty btw

[balmy condor]

Np

[fathom flax]

Your minor gains from doing things properly are outshined by rng and getting chosen for mechanics

[wooden timber]

now to hope everyone extendedd or cleared yesterday

[wooden timber]

yeah but i think its best to worry about what u can control right

[thorn thorn]

Aintnoway

Really?

[fathom flax]

Even better, just don’t worry about and blame other people

📈

[polar rampart]

a true scholar

[fathom flax]

P

[hidden inlet]

Um so you mean the loss of not swapping is small during carnage, but what about out of carnage? You still want to garrote or at least rupture other targets right

Or you just st the entire key

[runic hinge]

Uhh I mean if I gotta reapply rupture and I don’t wanna vanish I Fok and tab but usually there isn’t a ton of targets. Also I use whispyrs plater which shows my mark as purple so I can track which mob I need to get back to.

Also you don’t spread garrote after ic cause not improved garrote is weeny hut jr damage

And you just need 5 ruptures out so I track the scent stacks and once I get back to 5 out I find my main target again

[balmy condor]

Yes?

Probably 320ish now with turbo ilvl

[hidden inlet]

I think this is the part where I feel like I'm losing a lot of caustic damage
It actually takes quite some time to rupture 5 mobs and I'm missing out a lot of caustic damage during

[wooden timber]

is caustic range big enough to not have to stand precisely for oab reel assistants?

unsure how big his aa range is

[unreal tide]

played like crap but 67 pulls and it drops!

[balmy condor]

Caustic range is big enough to where the second part doesn’t trigger, yes

[wooden timber]

ok thanks

[runic hinge]

What build are you playing and what key level? I mean if things die before you can bleed them and get caustic running then it’s whatever key is too small to care. If you’re playing bleed caustic isn’t that huge anyways. If you’re playing hybrid or whatever zeross is calling his build and doing high keys you’ll have enough time to get ruptures out and do damage

[hidden inlet]

14 15 for now

Not sure if it's zeros build but I'm running kingsbane

Literally the build I used last expansion

[runic hinge]

Hybrid probably

[hidden inlet]

I mean when I spread rupture, if I don't mouseover it all my auto attacks will go to waste cause they aren't going to the caustic target

So it's almost always preferred to mouseover rupture right

[runic hinge]

Did I send the carnage bot post already?

I don’t swap. I mean you press rupture twice it’s on 5 targets you’re good to go. If you have to tab mid pull to spread cause you’re chaining or whatever you’re not getting that much caustic value at that point anyways

Caustic damage is gonna come from kb and from envenom

Your autos do not do that much. And you shouldn’t be spreading ruptures with kb running.

@keen spruce

Where are my clubs!!

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[burnt star]

litteraly just happened to me tonight

250k diff on one pull of sprocket

near the end.. same cast

[coral ibex]

yes

[hidden inlet]

you mean double dipping?

[thin portal]

i couldnt play sin on rik

i had to switch outlaw

run speed is too slow

[novel star]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[torpid nova]

Progging on Sprocket so pure ST, my burst just seems so much lower than everyone elses and overall ST. I'm using CDs, not wasting energy or CB or have any dot downtime except for rare occasions w/ movement..(According to WoW Analyzer) Unless I am missing a use for vanish in the opener? Can DM logs if anyones willing to help.

[balmy condor]

Are you getting below 35%?

[torpid nova]

nto consistently no

[wooden timber]

u creep up there as the fight goes on

[torpid nova]

We're getting right to P2 Intermission which is right at that mark

[wooden timber]

oh

that should be under execute range

u mean 2nd intermission right

[burnt star]

do u mean compare to everyone else (rogue) or every one else in your group?

[desert vault]

cloak works for soaking rockets on sprocket?

[wooden timber]

in my experience im kind of on the low end of the visible guys and then i just shoot up there around when hes prepping the 2nd kb or maybe 20s earlier

[torpid nova]

Damage isn't great, 35% around 4 minute mark

[balmy condor]

Yeh not being under 35%

[wooden timber]

yea

[balmy condor]

Classic assa prog pov

[wooden timber]

thats slow 35%

[torpid nova]

Will keep rolling till people stop being colorblind ig

[knotty kestrel]

The only true color is red

[rocky sluice]

about to start M gallywix, any advice, some dark tech or anything lol

sin vs sub on prog?

[burnt star]

play what ur confy with

damage isnt an issue

[rocky sluice]

can the very start of the pull, can the beginning mechanic be baited wrong if one persons too close

?

[earnest remnant]

It goes on the person that pulls / largest clump of ppl

[ashen scroll]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[obtuse ruin]

Guys what build is the play for low keys crest farm 12-14s?

[wise plume]

always bleed

bleed elite

[obtuse ruin]

For 15+ I’m liking the forced induction build quite a bit but lower keys adds die too quickly to do anything so was just wondering

[gloomy heart]

i missed timing a 12 FG by 30 seconds bc of paladins 😦

was my last 12 to get my trinket

[sage spade]

do you CT in ST with bleed build?

[paper tapir]

Yes

[sage spade]

ty

[novel star]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[fast phoenix]

we benefit from a gem of each color right? for culminating gem - or is it not worth bothering

[lethal arrow]

658 rings

[sage spade]

nice gear tho

[fast phoenix]

got lucky and got the +1 luck ring with all crit and haste, finally able to get rid of cyrce ring

[autumn frost]

Does the +1 luck do anything?

[balmy condor]

it's pretty minor in general, you can if you're super minmaxing but it's totally fine to just ignore it

[balmy condor]

makes you +1 luckier

[idle inlet]

@balmy condor why dont we do 2 dry shivs instead of 1 like 1 shiv during dm kb 2nd shiv on first darkest night proc and then the normal dry shiv that we do when the charge comes back?

[fast phoenix]

increases your card counting skills with House of Cards trinket

[fast phoenix]

gotcha, well im a slut for min maxing so

[balmy condor]

cause that is worse

[idle inlet]

lol fair enough

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean have fun resimming your gear every time anything changes

[autumn frost]

But big numbers make me happy!

[balmy condor]

nah but your idea is just a false equivalency

[fast phoenix]

i mean isnt that what we do already

[autumn frost]

So top gear at higher ilvls is broken atm?

[fast phoenix]

but yeah it is a bit annoying

[balmy condor]

dry shiv works because the first shiv of the non-dm kingsbane sucks

like that's the one that's bad right

but your idea is to move a shiv out of DEATHMARK

which is obviously not the same thing

in any regard

[fast phoenix]

i wish you could turn off thistle tea auto drinking at 30 energy, my bane

[autumn frost]

Is the idea to move 1 second of the shiv out of deathmark?

[balmy condor]

no

the idea is to 1 shiv during deathmark

and then 2 shivs in lingering

[autumn frost]

so you have a small overlap of lingering and do the lingering deathstalkers

[balmy condor]

that sucks too

[autumn frost]

No what I meant was the other guy

meaning

[balmy condor]

what other guy

[idle inlet]

I just didnt know that dm kingsbane was so much better than regular kingsbane but that makes sense

[balmy condor]

well not only is the dm kingsbane better

dm everything is better

dm envenoms are better

dm bleeds are stronger

dm poisons are stronger

[autumn frost]

so never hold deathmark for kingsbane on stix!

and just hold kingsbane to resync on deathmark

[balmy condor]

you double the bleeds, you double the poisons, kingsbane ramps faster, you have double amp poison for envenom, you have way more lethal dose stacks for your bleeds, your poisons, your kingsbane

it's more of everything

[balmy condor]

why are they desyncing in the first place hello what

[autumn frost]

Because stix goes up

after the first minute

[idle inlet]

cuz of intermission

[autumn frost]

right before kingsbane comes up

[balmy condor]

yeah, so you do 1 shiv on pull

hold kb and deathmark for 0:40

he lands

then what

[fast phoenix]

pew pew

[balmy condor]

are you not just hitting everything on cd from that point?

[autumn frost]

okay so you're recommending wait 40 seconds to deathmark/kb?

at the start of stix?

[balmy condor]

yes, that's what everyone does

[autumn frost]

so it's just a continious easy sync?

oki that was basically my question

don't you lose out on lingering window that way?

[fast phoenix]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/stix-bunkjunker

take a look

[balmy condor]

yeh

there's some chinese logs doing on pull but that's a kill time thing

[fast phoenix]

use Method raid tools or something of your choosing and put reminders for 30-40 seconds in... i have a cat meow at 35 seconds

[balmy condor]

cause they're killing at 5:30

but if you're like

[fast phoenix]

yeah th eonly ones popping cd's at beginning ar egetting PI

[balmy condor]

a reasonable guild

killing in not insane time

[autumn frost]

you also miss out on lust

[balmy condor]

and going 5:40ish, 6min

then you just always hold

[autumn frost]

wouldn't it make sense to just hit on pull then wait 40 seconds after pull to sync up

[fast phoenix]

no cause big add damage

[autumn frost]

ooh

[balmy condor]

yeh

[autumn frost]

good point

[fast phoenix]

caustic spatter just all over their faces

[autumn frost]

oki i see why to hold

will try that next time

[fast phoenix]

big hit box = ez caustic

[balmy condor]

[fast phoenix]

watch you sail up to the top, its lonely up there

[balmy condor]

who cares about the lust even

lust isn't really that insane

[autumn frost]

I live and die by the lust!

but you're right

[balmy condor]

I don't even notice when we lust

[autumn frost]

I'm just kidding

[balmy condor]

[autumn frost]

tbh

i really don't either

[balmy condor]

it's all envenom damage anyway

kingsbane isn't hasted

who cares

[autumn frost]

Doesn't it make our bleeds tick faster!

[balmy condor]

okay and?

[autumn frost]

Also energy return!

Mooooore kingsbane!

i mean

envenom

[balmy condor]

yeah but you're already energy capped during deathmark

[autumn frost]

Not during the lingering darkness faze! But you right.

I'm not disagreeing

lust is barely noticable

200% damage caustic on adds

Definitely the right call

[lethal arrow]

Huh lol

[wise plume]

finally got into a +12, look at the queue and there's a 3-stack dps w/ lust all above 3500 😭

i knew it was over for me

[autumn frost]

They're crest farming

[wise plume]

yeah, im trying to lmao

[subtle tundra]

loser

[runic hinge]

Boom roasted

[amber brook]

Out of everyone it chose him

[spice spire]

It knows a good kitten when it sees one

[runic hinge]

[spice spire]

Also Tony I cleared the 13 top without you I’m so sorry king

[runic hinge]

Wait ahri’s???

[spice spire]

No mine

[runic hinge]

Oh

I’m gonna try and queue into a 12 tonight

[spice spire]

Good luck king

[runic hinge]

Surely someone takes pity on me

[spice spire]

Even with all of my dps selling on the last boss (6 deaths btw)

We still timed

[runic hinge]

12’s feel so free

[spice spire]

13s felt GIGA free

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

We had a full wipe in rookery and still almost 2 chested

[spice spire]

We did a ML after that and had 10m going into last boss

Ye

[runic hinge]

Resil 13’s on the weekend

[spice spire]

Maybe

Quakewar almost has higher io than rogue again

I’m posted

Pissed even

[subtle tundra]

what?

wait fr i didnt know youre playing the game

[runic hinge]

He gave top 13 times

[subtle tundra]

oh so not game related

[spice spire]

True

[runic hinge]

You’re a tank main now you need to accept it

[spice spire]

I’ve been playing since launch tho

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

you have?

tf

[runic hinge]

Tww launch

He means

[subtle tundra]

yes im still surprised

idk why i thought george wasnt playing

[runic hinge]

I did one key as a bear last week might try prot pally this week

[inland idol]

Guys, I want the tier 1 trasmog from season 1 of tww, does anyone know the fastest way to get it?

[spice spire]

I mean I didn’t play from like 10.2 - TWW launch

But I’ve consistently been playing outside of that

[runic hinge]

What do you mean tier 1

[subtle tundra]

ok bro

sure

[inland idol]

the tier of season 1

[runic hinge]

If you mean lfr you could go get the gear from siren isle and you have unlimited catalyst charges to convert it

[gloomy heart]

what % upgrade is it worth to replace cyres circlet

[inland idol]

k'areshi

i want tha tier

[runic hinge]

Go get siren isle gear and bring to the catalyst in dornogal

[inland idol]

k

[gloomy heart]

cursed

[runic hinge]

You get lfr appearance for free that way

[gloomy heart]

oh kareshi

last season tier

[runic hinge]

Yeah

[gloomy heart]

LOL
my bad

thought he wanted tier set

[inland idol]

i want on myt 😦

[runic hinge]

Gonna have to run the raid big dog

[inland idol]

thank u sir

[runic hinge]

You’re welcome my son

[worthy fable]

is master assa still fake or vv?

cos my master assa be simming higher now

[runic hinge]

It can sim higher either way

I think whisp has vv simming higher

Depends on stats

Also VV ends up with more cleave and execute because the nature damage spatters as well and more execute cause extra damage during blindside procs and stuff

[royal lantern]

baby wake up, another reddit post how rogue has giga BUTTON BLOAT 30000000abilitys, and somebody saying he is a HoF Rogue player that dropped the class because it does no dmg!

[lethal arrow]

normal jastors + crafted ring outsims circlet huh

[runic hinge]

Dm me it

[lethal arrow]

post it so i can rage read it

nvmd i found it

[knotty kestrel]

Post it so I can rage

Plz

[subtle tundra]

ill fuck you

[runic hinge]

Varas is the hof rogue who dropped the class

[subtle tundra]

game*

bro that reddit post is insane

talking like rogue is just outlaw

[lethal arrow]

yeah those people are real people who play this game

are they just all outlaw mains or something wtf

[subtle tundra]

he uses a one button rotation

[lethal arrow]

hes real excited for the auto combo

[subtle tundra]

and says its sufficient for pretty much all content that isnt bleeding edge

yeah if you get absolutely carried

[subtle tundra]

people still want rogue to be easier what the hell

[lethal arrow]

yeah i read all i needed to read

[hollow talon]

Outlaw is a mess tho

[subtle tundra]

probably

but like assa is right there

but you know he'd come in here asking the stupidest shit

[royal lantern]

"i played rogue since 2008 and raid hof, a rogue 99parse is 85 for all other classes"

straight up lying about HoF, assa is one of the strongest raidspecs in the game rn lol

[subtle tundra]

like why is my dmg so bad(no mark, not hitting spatter, spamming CT)

[royal lantern]

its insane

[subtle tundra]

hof raider is like wr 300 this tier

[lethal arrow]

someone got downvoted for refuting that claim

LOL

[subtle tundra]

soooo dont expect too much

[sharp viper]

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo

[hollow talon]

The other specs need some love but ass is fine rn

Sims a little low but performs well in raid

We support ethical sims

[coral ibex]

WTFDYJFSAMYLB? IHYKIGTOMCITNSAIBIINSROAQAIHO300CK

[balmy condor]

it ain't even ethical vs not ethical, I'm gonna be honest

like assa aoe sims are kinda bad I'm ngl

assa st sims are ethical but there's also just like

nothing really to do

[sharp viper]

https://imgur.com/a/qcc3s7C

[inland idol]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-gif-14445878410445366371

[keen spruce]

[subtle tundra]

isnt it weird that you zeross takes dashing scoundrel and 2nd shiv and magically our st is decent?

while still playing everything else full aoe

[sharp viper]

OKAY OKAY

[balmy condor]

no, that is not weird

[subtle tundra]

or do i not know....

for me it feels weird!

[balmy condor]

he also took forced induction

and ttk

?

[keen spruce]

it's zeross

everything he does is weird

[balmy condor]

it's 6 points of raw ST talents

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[balmy condor]

how is this confusing

[subtle tundra]

oh i forgot about that!

[hollow talon]

Can someone send new zeros build tech

[balmy condor]

wowhead

[subtle tundra]

well i like the creativity of giving up all garrote dmg

i wouldnt have thunk that

cause im old school and i still treat garrote as the goat

[sharp viper]

I couldn't even tell you how much % of our damage garrote does in a raid ST build

[lethal arrow]

no u dont understand

rogue is hard and bad

[royal lantern]

bettwen 1 and 100%

[subtle tundra]

hey man i remember bfa with 3x shrouded suffocation and im STILL riding that high

[sharp viper]

there is noone who as hard you

[hollow talon]

Is it the cleave one

[subtle tundra]

those garrotes are in my dreams

[royal lantern]

yes

[sharp viper]

bleeding out your dreams?

[hollow talon]

Ty

[keen spruce]

I don't play anymore, i have nothing better to do

[red schooner]

When you're double the next best DPS on pull, life was good

[keen spruce]

[ebon notch]

@subtle tundra are you still washed

[runic hinge]

he's never washed a thing

[red schooner]

Okay found the Reddit thread, time to be upset.

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-i-appreciate-you-pathtosuccess-appreciate-gif-5440528

[little warren]

hey guys do we know if it's a gain to send shiv before <8s remaining on naked KB to supercharge a Darkest Night ? Like 10-12s remaining of KB dot, 5cp, shiv up DN up, is it a gain or a loss to shiv > envenom ?

[quiet oar]

All of them retired

[subtle tundra]

ofc and wont get dirty again

[red schooner]

"so much work for so little rewards", but Assa is piss easy in raid ST and does good DPS

Wat

What are they smoking

[sharp viper]

fair

[ebon notch]

I’m very proud of you

Stay clean son

[lethal arrow]

u dont understand

its very hard

90 apm

[red schooner]

shit you right mb

[ebon notch]

Assa sucks for parsing

Gotta put in 10x the effort to come close to other specs

[sharp viper]

making a coffee or wanking contributes to ingame APM?

[red schooner]

Getting up to make a drink while waiting for mutilate energy means high APM

[balmy condor]

what effort

[slate crown]

Parsing is compared within your spec not other specs 🤓☝️

[ebon notch]

???

All the effort

[red schooner]

I saw another rogue thread on there complaining about restealths and it's just pls

[balmy condor]

yes

[sharp viper]

all of it?

[balmy condor]

what is that effort

[solar wyvern]

The effort of aligning the stats and moon and sun

To proc blindside

[ebon notch]

Did I stutter

I’ll post pictures of your toes

[balmy condor]

no, you just said something that makes no fucking sense

[haughty flicker]

sometimes its hard to find something good to watch on netflix

[lethal arrow]

my apm goes up as i jork it

[haughty flicker]

while playing sin

[balmy condor]

what is this mystical parsing effort

[ebon notch]

Made sense to me

[balmy condor]

I must know so I can parse

[sharp viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[balmy condor]

cause I don't know what you're on about

[keen spruce]

[solar wyvern]

Power of sun and moon

[sharp viper]

please continue

[red schooner]

Gotta select the perfect album for my mood ya'know

[mystic crest]

Play maplestory while u raid on sin

[ebon notch]

You need more than that nerd

[solar wyvern]

Stars fall from sky

[lethal arrow]

meanwhile i think i litearlly watched whispyr tab into maplestory mid pull

[solar wyvern]

Need infusion from churchman

[lethal arrow]

high apm class btw

[balmy condor]

I press envenom, I maintain caustic, adds gets pulled in, I do caustic damage

[ebon notch]

He has to keep up with ramfam

[balmy condor]

very difficult spec btw

[sharp viper]

hof raider btw (is he? no clue)

[ebon notch]

Gross oversimplification card played

[golden loom]

most difficult part of parsing is kill timers at this point!

[balmy condor]

I mean

I at least gave a simplification

instead of just saying it's complicated and then not elaborating

[keen spruce]

every tier, parsing just comes down to kill times, RNG, and the AoE that the rest of your raid is doing

[balmy condor]

??????????

[ebon notch]

I can’t simplify it cause it’s too hard

[balmy condor]

fuck you daps

[ebon notch]

Hahahahahha

Ok my yearly shitpost is done

Go about your business

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-bee-bruh-gif-4580763730124008555

[sharp viper]

hardest part about OAB progress is to remember to spec back into caustic

[keen spruce]

I didn't realize that was daps

smh

[grave trail]

I think the only argument you can make assa is hard to parse maybe bandit and stix rest is just sit on boss and stix is random

[keen spruce]

bring back scana

[golden loom]

bandit is sit on boss aswell

every boss is

[sharp viper]

what happened to him?

[golden loom]

[balmy condor]

joined the airforce

[grave trail]

Bandit u rupture at times the adds

And have to get every coin

[keen spruce]

he's fixing paynes far away

[grave trail]

And good rng on add spawns

[ebon notch]

He’s still around

Just gotta search for him

[sharp viper]

he's playing full mastery marksmanship hunter?

[midnight mist]

Fotm

What are you doing here

Go back to off topic

[ebon notch]

I was saying hello to whispyr

And he said hello back

[midnight mist]

Weird he would do that

[subtle tundra]

you got ragebaited

[midnight mist]

When I say hello to whisper usually he just ignore me

He blocked me fotm

Crazy stuffs

[ebon notch]

Wtf

[haughty flicker]

based

[sharp viper]

[red schooner]

I thought we were in the Zac unblocked arc

[midnight mist]

He is right

[keen spruce]

he more like an irl aug evoker

[ebon notch]

Put some respect on my name

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

he's right that it's harder to parse on assa, cause a brain damaged chimp on a typewriter could shit out a gcd perfect rotation by sheer accident

[midnight mist]

Nah he hates me fr

[subtle tundra]

can you make a one button macro for assa?

[ebon notch]

Hahahaha

Wtf

[midnight mist]

Gonna be even harder when varas get access to the one button rotation thing

[sharp viper]

weird request but here you go

[midnight mist]

One more opponent

[subtle tundra]

see you on windwalker loser

[ebon notch]

Hahaha

[midnight mist]

Rava

[subtle tundra]

can you even keep mastery?

[midnight mist]

I will get better ww parses than you

[ebon notch]

Ok harsh

[subtle tundra]

probably will

[ebon notch]

His cast sequence macro keeps mastery for him

[subtle tundra]

cause i dont play?

[midnight mist]

I was keeping up mastery you weren't even born yet

I'm a master mastery keeper

[sharp viper]

based outlaw rogue right here

[subtle tundra]

not hard to get a better parse than this

[golden loom]

buying boost 3 times in a row? SAD!

[balmy condor]

I mean I'm gonna be honest, if the one button thing learns how to play deathstalker and hold shiv for kb, I think the one button is probably worth using up to like shitter 3/8M guilds

[midnight mist]

Bro what

[subtle tundra]

i did get an 85 by mistake though

didnt realise

[balmy condor]

they gotta increase the gcd penalty or something idk

if it was 0.5 it would be pretty giga shit for shiv windows

[midnight mist]

Would the GCD penalty even be that much for assa

[balmy condor]

yah

[midnight mist]

For outlaw it's terrible but for sin?

[balmy condor]

shiv windows hurt

[midnight mist]

I guess

[balmy condor]

dm especially

[sharp viper]

imagine playing a class with 1s GCD and then playing a 50apm spec

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

I mean I'm gonna be honest

I'm getting really fucking sick of blizzard making all the resources irrelevant

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

it's like every class these days has 3 resources but doesn't give a shit about 2 of them and the third one is like "don't overcap"

[quartz cloak]

I wonder how it works on casters, which don’t use many instant spells

[sharp viper]

surely that doesn't apply to ...

[red schooner]

My kind of cooked rogue resource idea is to have energy tied to utility/defensives and damaging abilities just able to be hit.

There are probably massive flaws to this plan

[balmy condor]

one spec

I want

one spec

in this god forsaken game

to care about its resources

and have some gameplay around it

is that too much to ask

[final star]

Hopefully not rogue thanks

Remove energy

[sharp viper]

make energy regen scale properly with haste

[balmy condor]

what

[haughty flicker]

make my dad come back

[final star]

Like it already does

[red schooner]

He's getting the milk, it takes time

[royal lantern]

didnt they make it 25% now

[balmy condor]

0.4

[cedar iron]

Hi

[final star]

I mean, they've shown they can make energy valuable in DF

[final star]

Why are you based

But lightning doesn't strike twice

[sharp viper]

[royal lantern]

??? never saw a ele shaman ???

[balmy condor]

they literally gave assa 300 energy, sanguine blades, vicious venoms

buncha energy talents

rebalanced venomous wounds

and then just left it

to rot

[midnight mist]

No meme it's about time they remove energy for outlaw, it only serves as a bigger punition for when you get bad rng

[balmy condor]

[final star]

Yep and you still played around it in s4

[subtle tundra]

are you ass in the brain?

[final star]

Cos of tier otc

Ofc

[golden loom]

ok outlaw cook, change energy to adrenaline that u gotta keep pumping buttons to upkeep

[final star]

But then they did leave it to rot cos blizzard can't fix it

[subtle tundra]

rember when you had to choose between vigor for a slightly faster spec and deeper stratagem for a "slower" spec

[slate crown]

Left it to rot

[cedar iron]

I don't mind energy if it has gameplay impact even though I prefer gcd capped specs. But right now it's just an annoyance to have energy, while in aoe you already might aswell have removed it

[balmy condor]

I do

[slate crown]

Pretty descriptive of many things today

[balmy condor]

like they laid all the bricks to make energy cool and interactive

and they were so close to giving it gameplay

and then said nah nvm actually

that's the part that pisses me off the most

[midnight mist]

I mean

That's like every rogue thing

[cedar iron]

Chstgpt.. I mean the devs.. Thought about it long and hard to come to that conclusion

[subtle tundra]

mourinho why cant you win against any of the top teams in turkey

[sharp viper]

I agree on that

[midnight mist]

They stop iterating before it feels finished

[balmy condor]

ye

very annoying

[red schooner]

They spent the time working on energy gameplay to work on hero talents instead

[cedar iron]

Have you seen the AUDACITY of the refs in this league? Smh my head

[subtle tundra]

everyone is against you

that is so true

[balmy condor]

also I never responded to this cause I was too busy getting baited, but I need my 100bil for cube sale this weekend leave me alone

[royal lantern]

like, either say "fuck it, we just make it GCD capped cus people like that more" OR say "energy matters and you play around it, you can run out of energy"

not this weird "you have energy talents but they all dont really matter and you dont care about the energy bar and just slam buttons anyway but sometimes with a delay cus yellow bar low"

[cedar iron]

The numbers is in that game are so absurd

[royal lantern]

chose a side lol

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

it's only billions

I mean sometimes trillions in rare cases

but like, diablo?

[haughty flicker]

[cedar iron]

It looks like more with all the dmg numbers, billions are fine I suppose

[lethal arrow]

sheesh

im fam farming

[balmy condor]

not really that absurd given a bunch of other games tbh

[cedar iron]

Well diablo is like the worst offender

[balmy condor]

im boutta piss you off

hold pls

[lethal arrow]

tell him how much health XKaling has

[balmy condor]

need to switch to main

[lethal arrow]

ur a disgusting high roller

and u need to die

[balmy condor]

[lethal arrow]

wtf is that

[haughty flicker]

[keen spruce]

mushroom game

[balmy condor]

I'm him man

[lethal arrow]

show mobs killed achievement rn

[balmy condor]

oh he's fumin

[lethal arrow]

yeah my ass had to farm 275 to 285 without fam drops

i got punished for being ahead

u dont wanna see my putrid inventory rn

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

putrid like my farts or what

[lethal arrow]

yeah u need to be killed

LOL

WTF

[balmy condor]

mad?

[subtle tundra]

bro i NEED elden ring or poe immediately

[lethal arrow]

thats just disgusting

[balmy condor]

nah nah nah

[cedar iron]

Is this like a mirror in 100h?

[balmy condor]

it gets worse

ror4?

[lethal arrow]

hope u brick cube sale

[balmy condor]

ty papi

[balmy condor]

kinda yeah

[lethal arrow]

brb

gunna show to my guildies

see if they vomit

[balmy condor]

they will

I also have triple large party heal

does that help

4 of those scholars are large heal

then the large drop

a 60% drop

and the bottom 3 are 30/30/40

[lethal arrow]

i dont know what im even cubing

[sharp viper]

time to go back to bed

[lethal arrow]

i just have a unique fam with large party heal and regular party heal

not that i need it

[balmy condor]

I'm cubing drop gear on like 4 mules cause they're going hlomien solo soon

I am baby

[lethal arrow]

yeah i have 500b

i got nothing to use it on

[sharp viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078500556139659357/1266583932426653826/attachment.gif

[lethal arrow]

full 3 line aside from S/E

[balmy condor]

I'm still rocking like 12/9/6 on a bunch of stuff on my main

but my duo won't do bm prog with me

[lethal arrow]

pitch and eternal hell

[balmy condor]

nah not even eternal

[lethal arrow]

well i am at least

[balmy condor]

I duo prog with a guy

as like self-imposed challenge

[grim jay]

Henlo frens, is dis da wurld oh warcreft rouge discord?

[balmy condor]

and so I'm sitting here with 140mil cp and nearly maxed origin

and no bm kill

is what it is

we been busy with other things

[grim jay]

Just open a ToP key and invite one

Save deathmark for the arena

[balmy condor]

true

[wooden timber]

will they ever add a pity system for pitched items to reboot

or is it doomed

[balmy condor]

I mean maybe

[lethal arrow]

im actually kinda mad they didnt add fams earlier

[wooden timber]

i kinda wanna come back

[balmy condor]

we're getting 30 star update and they're gonna have to change something

[lethal arrow]

im literally full hexa outside for janus and

NOW im farming fams

couldv been doing both

[wooden timber]

i only picked up wow bc i quit xiv and i only picked up xiv bc they removed suicide kanna

[balmy condor]

oh

[grim jay]

I'd judge you guys for playing that game, but I still play bdo on the side

[balmy condor]

yeah that's bozo energy

[wooden timber]

so in a way its nexons fault that im here

[balmy condor]

okay well

suicide kanna sucked

boss mule meta is way better

I ain't even gonna lie

[lethal arrow]

this could be coming

[wooden timber]

boss mules sound more fun yea

[balmy condor]

farming byebye on a kanna

absolute agony

[lethal arrow]

its wap or boss mule meta

whatever u prefer

[wooden timber]

hated totem / kishin reliance

[lethal arrow]

im a wapper personally

[balmy condor]

and I am not

which is why crash literally gaps tf out of me

in maple and wow

[lethal arrow]

my guild is only slightly ahead of you in wow

[balmy condor]

yah but have you seen my parses

[lethal arrow]

and im jsut degenerate in ms

[balmy condor]

I'm chopped

[lethal arrow]

yeah i get rewarded for my guild being slow so we kill on my cds

[balmy condor]

honestly I don't even care for eternals or pitched or bm kill atm

biggest thing I'm excited for in maple

is 9.5k legion

why am I like this

[wooden timber]

do ppl still have google sheets to farm maps in shifts

like old side path

[balmy condor]

no

[lethal arrow]

no

def not

[balmy condor]

grandis maps are instanced

[wooden timber]

oh ok thats nice

[balmy condor]

2 people per map

[lethal arrow]

u pick ur favorite map in grandis now

and just farm there

2 ppl per map

and sol janus is disgusting OP

[hollow talon]

if im playing the cleave zeross build i dont spread garrotes like i used to right

[balmy condor]

correct

[wooden timber]

neat

[lethal arrow]

some classes stand completely still and farm

[hollow talon]

cool me and my homies hate spreading garrote anyway

[wooden timber]

i miss playing cadena maybe i try ms again sometime

cool class

[lethal arrow]

oh god

gl with that

[balmy condor]

cadena enjoyer

[lethal arrow]

ur gunna break ur hands

[balmy condor]

you are a terrifying person

I fear for my life with you in my presence

[wooden timber]

its fun and cool

[lethal arrow]

ur gunna get carpal tunnel if uf farm

[wooden timber]

wait really

[balmy condor]

any blaster mains in chat

[lethal arrow]

yeah cadena is notoriously the apm class

[balmy condor]

cadena is like 15 buttons and you hit them all constantly

[lethal arrow]

its literally outlaw rogue

[balmy condor]

and you gotta do like 5 skill combos

with animation cancels

it's aids

[wooden timber]

oh yeah i mean

[lethal arrow]

i play fking Wind archer bro

i hold down hurricane

[wooden timber]

no cadena farm rotations were bad

[lethal arrow]

i stand completely still when i grind

[wooden timber]

besides the morass map

w the knights

[grim jay]

So its still slow overall because the game is slow and you got serious health issues if that strain is enough to hurt you?

Just asking for a friend

[wooden timber]

that day in truffet something

[lethal arrow]

maybe idk

[wooden timber]

everything else was ok

[balmy condor]

[lethal arrow]

thats me

[wooden timber]

yea its not so bad except in parties because when bishop bubble and domain go down u have no frames

[lethal arrow]

7 second animation