assassination

[rotund oak]

ive played all 3 specs but ye i did play outlaw especially in bfa and sl

[knotty kestrel]

It was sub in df

Mostly

Right?

[rotund oak]

well kinda,was experimenting

also sstarted playing my mage there

[knotty kestrel]

I see I see

I remember you had a yellow name so long ago

[rotund oak]

yup,very true

couldnt stand the toxicity so i bounced from that cursed chat

[normal mist]

It is a very Whoooo chat

But we have a Wheeee chat

[rotund oak]

here is a sanctuary for ppl using their brains

also sub is cool

[normal mist]

Between mutilates

[knotty kestrel]

First thing I noticed was a better chat

If it werent turn based I'd play it

[normal mist]

Try expedition33

its turn based

trust

[knotty kestrel]

Idk

I do trust Royal

[rotund oak]

im gonna send MoP arenas for sure btw

cant wait for pandaland

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-homie-gif-12981642

[knotty kestrel]

I leveled a rogue thinking player CP came in MoP and was utterly disappointed in my memory

[radiant raven]

[knotty kestrel]

I'd play the hell out of classic if they did that

[rotund oak]

im into druid tech for mop,double gathered and ghost iron farm in that cave,big bites

got a homie priest rdy to send 2s

[knotty kestrel]

I'm probably gonna level my dk. Dk #4926771

[rotund oak]

frost pumps

and blood is a monster

in mop

[knotty kestrel]

I'm pretty sure unholy wasn't as fun as people remember

[rotund oak]

UHDK is garbage in mop

[knotty kestrel]

I didn't like it

But I played since wrath so I didn't not play it

[azure dirge]

FB simming higher now?? Surely this is the darkest timeline

[balmy condor]

always has simmed higher in single target

not really anything new

[hidden bay]

its confirmed guys

i am the best

[balmy condor]

did you ask him how many rogues he's seen

[hidden bay]

that doesnt matter

[nova wolf]

grats on being the best

[knotty kestrel]

Ah dang

GGs herp, you're a better man than I.

[indigo mulch]

Not a high bar to set.

[hidden bay]

if you get a whisper from a random telling you are the best

[knotty kestrel]

Wowwwww

[hidden bay]

then you are better

[knotty kestrel]

True tho

[knotty kestrel]

I only get those when I play bdk

Usually in the form of "a blood dk that has death strike on their bar?"

Or something similar

[nimble tartan]

umm lol this guy messaged me the same thing

[hidden bay]

thats crazy

[knotty kestrel]

Well he messaged Herp after

So

Sorry bud

[hidden bay]

nothing you can do, i am the best

[nimble tartan]

umm herp needs to check somethin and its not the pins!!!

#gettested

[hidden bay]

[nimble tartan]

[knotty kestrel]

Let be real, Herp was probably the first rogue that guy has seen with kick bound or something.

[viscid spear]

What's a good setup for Brann?

[hidden bay]

makes sense

[knotty kestrel]

The pug rogues are interesting for sure

[nimble tartan]

murlocs elementals or apm pirates

[viscid spear]

I meant what Curios for Delves

[coral ibex]

the hp orb one for sure

there's a wowhead guide for it

oh thats just a healer ability

i use the one that spawns a dino egg

[knotty kestrel]

He just does that baseline

[coral ibex]

i use this one for utility

this for combat

[viscid spear]

Wow, that's what I had been using, nooj

[coral ibex]

the taunt is pretty good

[knotty kestrel]

I like the haste one

[viscid spear]

Wasn't sure if there was something better

[knotty kestrel]

Bio fuel I think

[coral ibex]

the death bomb one is pretty decent too i think

whatever is best at either burst healing or taunting imo

[wary light]

This might be tinfoil shit (or im bad) but is assa damage feeling fucking HORRID since the patch? Is something broken? I was consistently top 3 on mug'zee prog last week and I'm bottom today, and it's not just everyone having gotten tons of ilvl over me

[midnight scroll]

should i go and just get myth seaforium straight away? there's no way i'm killing mythic gallywix anytime soon

[golden loom]

im still popping off atm 😎

[balmy condor]

I was cranking while being multiple ilvl down on people yesterday

[coral ibex]

same

i was spattering all over those goons

[golden loom]

I am actually caustic gooning all over the goons

[knotty kestrel]

What's it called when your brain adds words to a sentence that aren't there?

[balmy condor]

stupid

[coral ibex]

skill issue

[knotty kestrel]

Oh :(

[balmy condor]

illiteracy maybe

[wary light]

idk wtf is happening then

I've changed NOTHING except upgrade shit

[golden loom]

hit boss, rupture snipe the soak add and the helicopters, spatter some goons and pump

[wise plume]

https://tenor.com/view/sometimes-maybe-good-maybe-shit-gif-15610659

[balmy condor]

I mean look at the bright side, you could've been the guy that crafted an int dagger yesterday cause he didn't understand how to upgrade his crafted gear

[wary light]

nono im saying

last week I was loggin 95+

[wise plume]

F

[coral ibex]

hows ur prog goingh

[low thicket]

Maybe the int will help them understand what to craft/recraft next time.

[balmy condor]

typically does not

[coral ibex]

we're progging the p2 push atm

[knotty kestrel]

Well I read "I was cranking my hog on some lower ilvl people yesterday" so I had to reread it to make sure.

[balmy condor]

how many int daggers has mr 0chill crafted to date?

like 3?

[coral ibex]

i raided with hog crankers in classic

[golden loom]

progging towards 40% push ye

[coral ibex]

that was the guild name, hog crankers

[golden loom]

mines do bomb us quite a lot tho

[strange onyx]

Do we even bother to rupture the technician?

[balmy condor]

yes ofc

[coral ibex]

ya same here

[balmy condor]

energy gud

[strange onyx]

Rupture all the adds?

[balmy condor]

if you need energy, you rupture

[strange onyx]

nod nod

had an energy drink before raid

Should be fine

[low thicket]

need rupture irl

[arctic socket]

What are we rupturing for you?

[knotty kestrel]

Lung

The left one

[balmy condor]

that's my favorite lung

:(

[knotty kestrel]

It's gotta go

[balmy condor]

it's so much more peaceful on wednesday after a patch than on a tuesday

why is that

[golden loom]

cause us EU folk are more chill

and its our patch day

[balmy condor]

that is just

not true

[coral ibex]

no you guys just make noise when whispyr is sleeping

[strange onyx]

Do some bloodletting

[golden loom]

meow meow meow

[balmy condor]

when I do what

[low thicket]

[crystal vault]

hc jastor + crafted ring > siren ring?

[knotty kestrel]

We don't sleep, we go on gamer breaks

[balmy condor]

for some people yes, for some people no

pins

[spice spire]

I know you sleep mf im in your walls

[wary light]

okay so

I changed to m+ talents and then back

and back on top again

something wasn't working for some reason I guess

[lean plover]

Whispyr got a mattress sponsor btw

he has a healthy sleeo schedule atm

[balmy condor]

do I

@wild lantern you hear that you old hag

[lean plover]

4am-15pm

cant get better

[hollow talon]

how hard is mug after the nerfs/power buffs at the 40% push

we got there a few times last night on our first prog night

[balmy condor]

not bad

[wary light]

Not bad, we are having to hold now for healer cds though

which is poop

Getting to the jail sets and boss is at 43%

[coral ibex]

my guild does average damage i think and we're still progging the push so

but not many people were turbo boosted

should be easy on thurs

[hollow talon]

did u guys get the consume buff

[coral ibex]

no

[golden loom]

ok how do we do the shadowstep on mugzee

[coral ibex]

or maybe we did idk

[golden loom]

we just got to 25%

[balmy condor]

we did

[golden loom]

do I just have to shadowstep super early

[balmy condor]

the what

[coral ibex]

i forgot to clear heroic last week so im behind

[fresh kelp]

ya huge 0.1% damage from the consume buff

[golden loom]

when hes charging around

[fresh kelp]

giant damage increase

[golden loom]

I shadowstepped to him and just got gunned down

[balmy condor]

idk I just step

and it's fine

[low thicket]

is it only .1%? lol

[golden loom]

ok so personal skill issue

got it

[coral ibex]

might have pressed W

[golden loom]

was the first time getting there tho so ye probably

[balmy condor]

yah

you can't move

hold W = run into him

[golden loom]

that is probably what happend

[knotty kestrel]

Win starts with W

So I'm pressing it

[strange onyx]

feels like my p1 gallywix dmg is cosmetic at most

[balmy condor]

that is assa in raids yeh

we are the strongest execute spec in the game by a mile

but that means you're not great before that

could be worse

you could be an evoker

[wise plume]

true

[golden loom]

I do really like how this fight plays tho

[tall jay]

I still
Haven’t seen execute phase on gally lol

[golden loom]

way more fun than OAB

[coral ibex]

yea mugzee way more fun than oab

[golden loom]

even tho bandit wasnt bad until pull 200

[tall jay]

On heroic lol

[balmy condor]

what

it's just timed aint it

timed and then 50% hp

with the big cast

[tall jay]

Well I get in really shitty pugs lol

[paper ibex]

howdy, had a quick question as im new to the spec, is there a list of dungeons we're running hybrid on vs bleed? or is it just go by feel. Thanks!

[coral ibex]

if you have to ask just play bleed

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[brave comet]

i'm in the second gaol add soak on mythic mugzee, thats when kingsbane is up, should i use it on the add?

[lyric gate]

what was the side were you can see where top parses used their cds

[brave comet]

lorrgs

[lyric gate]

pog ty

[thorn thorn]

Dev mastery is so gd cringe

It hasnt been super big impact since amirdrassil fortunately

[coral ibex]

what is it

oh i see its a reverse execute

makes sense why their openers are crazy

[thorn thorn]

You think its crazy now you should have seen amirdrassil

Before the mastery got nerfed a bunch

[coral ibex]

i thought aug was meta during df

people played dev?

[thorn thorn]

Nowadays people are running like 40% mastery tops

[coral ibex]

i thought aug was so broken you'd never play dev

[thorn thorn]

Dev easily had 80-100% mastery in amirdrassil

Misinformation

Wasnt actually that good in raid unless you could 200iq micro manage it

On average they did less than Dev cuz people are shit with the spec

But if you are like Fluup then it does omega dam

And still does, even before all the buffs

[knotty kestrel]

Imagine having a good mastery

[thorn thorn]

ikr

Couldnt be outlaw

[knotty kestrel]

Inconceivable honestly

[thorn thorn]

Also they play Flameshaper RN

Which is extremely front loaded in the opener

[royal lantern]

pressing 4 buttons->20million dmg done

[thorn thorn]

Yep

Flameshaper

[wild lantern]

unironically have a better sleep schedule than me rn

BUT THAT'S GONNA CHANGE BAYBEE

YA GIRL GOT ANTIBIOTICS

[kindred oriole]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

More paramore today just for you

[humble verge]

@winged sun INVITE ME U DOG

😭

[ruby kiln]

Hey all! Quick question, for M+ what are you playing, kingsbane or the one build that is on icy veins?

Im kinda lost

[balmy condor]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[ruby kiln]

I UwU you

[balmy condor]

[runic hinge]

Hell yeah you do Ricky

[ruby kiln]

Just pushing 10s getting into 12s

[viscid spear]

I'm trying, no one wants me

[ruby kiln]

Bruh, is you cat ok? lol

[viscid spear]

Yes

[knotty kestrel]

Larry!

[humble verge]

stuck with 4 crafted, hero pace and shoulders

and no myth jastor

[viscid spear]

No, Devious Ash

[ruby kiln]

I love him

[humble verge]

wait

are corrupted enchants here yet

or have i forgotten date

[sage basin]

no, not yet

[viscid spear]

Her

[balmy condor]

Them

us?

[brazen sluice]

whispyr ask me anything u want

ill do it

just came from teeth surgrey and omg the pain i was in for the past week

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-just-read-reading-samuel-johnson-joshua-reynolds-reaction-gif-14997728

[brazen sluice]

🦷

[thorn thorn]

Thanks for this gem

https://imgur.com/mftGPmI

Have one in exchange

[humble verge]

sadge

im just under 10m hp

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dkmf6ShmDWEhhm6AzvxLk8

i might be able to use the ring

[astral plover]

i dont get it. Circlet sims like 50k more than ANYTHINg in the game for me

[viscid spear]

She has the vajayjay

[knotty kestrel]

Voice actor Jay-Jay

That was terrible

Bedtime

[soft shale]

yea circe is too strong

cant ever take it off smh

even more when belt comes around

think they will nerf it again before s3

[balmy condor]

what are you simming it against

[astral plover]

Wheel, with different stats. Crafted with different stats

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g67RbVy5hJyQkPay8AXXt6

Here is a quick one

[lyric gate]

race change to tauren

[viscid spear]

Where's the beef

[wise plume]

boy that is the last time i invite a priest healer

[astral plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5CUh5gCyV6yydSd1KRgEH5

[balmy condor]

yeah that's generated gear

pin

or the thing at the top of that link

[humble verge]

ears going through headpiece, immersion ruined

[short tangle]

Be like

[humble verge]

me_irl

[short tangle]

Noice, RP !

[ruby birch]

Hi guys how parse

I’m pressing envenom

[short tangle]

Press harder

[ruby birch]

Need wooting for that?

[thorn thorn]

Wallace is looking strangely green

[short tangle]

Mix between Wallace and Raphaello i guess, or just a trisomic version of Raphaello

[brazen sentinel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[strange python]

Hello im raiding mythic atm i have very good logs on second third and fourth boss and im trying to improve my first log on vexie i cannot do a better log than 70 what am i doing wrong there? xD

[runic hinge]

Is your team killing it in an amp phase?

[strange python]

we have full dmg phase

we trap cc root it

or wdym?

[runic hinge]

Parsing in first boss is gonna be about killing it during the amp and having a full dm during execute while amped and then the boss dying right after

[lyric gate]

or get one good parse in first week

[runic hinge]

Yeah or that

[strange python]

i have 12 kills on it and cant get past a 70 log xD its mental

[lyric gate]

got 95 week 1

xd

[hidden inlet]

How important are auto attacks for kingsbane and caustic splatter damage on aoe?
Am i supposed to mouseover everything and make sure I'm always AAing the main target?

[balmy condor]

auto attacks are around 90% of our poison applications against a given target

so very important for kingsbane

[strange python]

if u dont attack the splatter target theres no aoe

[balmy condor]

not important otherwise

[strange python]

otherwise if u cant find the kingsbane target just reapply splatter to another target

[keen spruce]

[hidden inlet]

Umm so i guess I gotta mouseover macro everything that I will potentially swap target for

[humble verge]

mouse over macro

nah

i just press button

[wise plume]

same

i click

[hidden inlet]

How?

[solar wyvern]

Not really, its useful to have for bleeds but if you're a fast tab target user then its virtually the same

[wise plume]

i dont even tab target

[strange python]

u could also make a kingsbane /focus target

[hidden inlet]

Let's say you're interrupting, spreading rupture, garrote or what not

[solar wyvern]

Well kicks should always he a focus macro anyway

[hidden inlet]

You guys do it between two auto attacks and swap back the target?

[balmy condor]

I just don't change target

focus kick and then just slam target

[solar wyvern]

Pmuch most people do, mouse over nameplates for ruptures /garrotes

[wise plume]

i just kidney shot whatever needs to be interrupted to prevent further distraction from pumping

[solar wyvern]

But tab targetting fast isn't the end of the world either

[brazen sluice]

top gear isnt bugged anymore?

[solar wyvern]

You're losing very little swapping for 2 globals

[balmy condor]

whats the big banner say

[onyx scroll]

You know we can't read

[loud hawk]

is it normal House of cards to sim less than signet ?

[onyx scroll]

I'm going to need a video explaining that banner

[brazen sluice]

i just did my teeth cant see

[balmy condor]

my appleorcheese

[strange python]

yes

[hidden inlet]

But if auto is 90% of kingsbane, 2 global is actually quite a lot?

[balmy condor]

are you generating the gear

from top gear search

[strange python]

house of cards is 500 dps increase for me

[solar wyvern]

Well you shouldn't be reupping bleeds during kb in that case

[balmy condor]

500 is margin of error

[loud hawk]

top gear HoC 671

[balmy condor]

that's not simming less

[loud hawk]

on 5 targets 1 minutes Signet sims better on 8 - 1 HoC

but HoC is better as i am aware of

[balmy condor]

they're equal

[runic hinge]

Never swap targets just spam bleeds on the same one. Much easier

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[coral ibex]

aoe sims

[wise plume]

i need to try the mouseover target

[balmy condor]

I wasn't gonna touch that

[runic hinge]

I ain’t mousingover shit!

[lyric gate]

so you just tabbing targets

and losing uptime

or what

[runic hinge]

No I just spam the same target

It’s got smart targeting

[loud hawk]

i have Seaforium with avoidance Hero

should i buy signet

[solar wyvern]

I mean personally, i took the half day of spamming keys with mouseover bleeds and will never regret it cause that shit is fire

But its not "required"

[loud hawk]

i have the bleeds mouseover too

is so easy

[balmy condor]

if you don't have a myth signet or a myth house of cards, you should buy one of the two

[loud hawk]

yes sir 🫡

[solar wyvern]

Signet enjoyers riseup

[strange python]

i bought mythic signet today

x)

[loud hawk]

is there any chance that it could drop you an extra stat

[strange python]

if u buy it? no

[iron carbon]

Patchday, are you ok @balmy condor ?

Not already upset by shitty questions?

[balmy condor]

patchday was yesterday

today is chill

[wise plume]

today is nice

[strange python]

how to parse on first boss mythic? send help

[solar wyvern]

Yo speaking of shitty questions

Whispyr you try the new zero sugar guava flavor monsters

Holy samole

That shit is fire

[balmy condor]

its fine I guess

idk

not my favorite

[solar wyvern]

Damn white monster unbeatable ig

Its a new fav of mine for sure but I'm also a tropical enjoyer, so yknow

Biased

[balmy condor]

true

green apple enjoyer

[lyric gate]

the ultra energy one ?

[solar wyvern]

Oh man the sour ones taste great but they lowkey make my mouth sore lmfao

[balmy condor]

always ultra

sugar haters

[solar wyvern]

Strawberry dream ultra fusion

My beloved

[lyric gate]

y ultra is fire

[modest gale]

do i get discount crest on char what i get 675? or just other chars

[solar wyvern]

Others

[lyric gate]

you get on other chars where you maxed that item

like if you dont have maxed legs you cannot discount up them on alt

[solar wyvern]

No cheating time to farm

[spare kayak]

easiest key in my life tbh +1

[lyric gate]

cant get more

😦

[last skiff]

someone have macro for pot dps rank 3? for some reason the only name dont work

[cinder geode]

For high keys do we bother with mind numbing or just go atrophic

[lyric gate]

their are classes that have numbing passive

i think dk

dont know for sure

[cinder geode]

I read somewhere that the cast speed slow doesn't even work on a lot of things?

[lyric gate]

might be true i saw all giga high rogues always runnign atrophic

i always felt like if i can slow that shitty cast why i shouldnt use it

[lyric gate]

did you timed that

xd

it says 00.9

[balmy condor]

it's weird yeah

atrophic is generally preferred in higher keys for the DR on bosses and stuff

[spare kayak]

yes

[lyric gate]

holy

[spare kayak]

as long as the minutes and seconds are not greater than the timer's target you time it

[iron carbon]

EU is chill

[balmy condor]

interesting

[spare kayak]

thats not one minute tho

[balmy condor]

correct

that is the interesting part

[spare kayak]

previous screenshot shows 0.1 sec

[lyric gate]

holy

1 min left

if it was your key

justlist it

today full 3500+ sign up for 12 keys

[iron carbon]

So true, I just spent the day farmin 12

[lyric gate]

i did like 6 12s + 3

😄

[iron carbon]

But I'm full now

no need to farm anymore

[lyric gate]

i can reach 683

need 80 crest

[wise plume]

who's got the mouseover target macro? I want to give it a whirl

[lyric gate]

what target ?

./cast [@mouseover] Rupture

[wise plume]

yis

[iron carbon]

/cast [@mouseover] [] Garrote

[neat terrace]

#showtooltip Rupture
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][harm,nodead]rupture

[iron carbon]

The [] allow you to cast on ur current target

[neat terrace]

mine does the same but yours seems much easier lol

[iron carbon]

Just shorter

My exact macro must looks like it :
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [] Rupture

[lyric gate]

i have 2 diuffernt binds

for normal rupture and mouseover

i use the mouseover only to snipe

energy

or when i dont have vanish and shit runs out

in very high keys

[wise plume]

gonna give it a shot, bc im tired of not getting full rupt's/gar on big pulls and im using meld to reset carnage

[iron carbon]

I don't get how it is interesting

To have 2 diff binds

[lyric gate]

meld is never reliable

😄

[wise plume]

yeah sometimes it doesnt work, so i use a vanish charge like a clown lmao

i like seeing big numbers

[lyric gate]

like what happens when i press your macro as my usual rupture

and my mouse is slightly off the nameplate ?`

it will rupture my current target or not ?

[iron carbon]

Yes, it will

[inland escarp]

It will cast on current target

[lyric gate]

so my mouseover macro wont do that

i press it when i 100% want to rupture and off target

and dont lose uptime on my current

thats why 2x binds

[iron carbon]

To prevent failing, I got it

[lyric gate]

y like i wanna jsut do a 3 cp rupture snipe on a add

that pass by

to get fuill energy when it dies

i dont wanna do a 3 one on my current target

[iron carbon]

I know what the sniping is

But just, I do put my mouse correctly

[lyric gate]

😄

[iron carbon]

If I do not, I just tell to myself : Get gud fcker

[lyric gate]

y sometimes i lose track of my mouse i swear

gettin old

and i dont wanna hve one of this annoying weak auras with cirlcs

[iron carbon]

I was gonna propose

ahahaa

Can't play without since I got it

Too old to find the mouse

Or you can have a fancy brilliant one

[strange python]

i know clear the witnesses isnt really used in ST but is it essentially also not bad? i see some top logs using it

[distant hinge]

i saw someone say 11 delves give 27 crests? i just did one and was only the normal 7 or is it that you get the lower crests also that you can trade in?

[wise plume]

same, thats why i made it a little bigger

i also cant use weakauras, i play with my same ui from wrath lol

[golden loom]

need delvers bounty

that gives 20

so if u do it in a +11 u get 27

[gloomy heart]

@coral ibex nice parse

[coral ibex]

wtf

i need my gallagio rep

[gloomy heart]

i need to go crest farm

im looking terrible out here

[real pike]

mugzee down let's gooooo

[wise plume]

ive seen so many 678+ ppl today

buncha no life crest farmers

[lyric gate]

im 682

what you mean

[wise plume]

go outside buddy

[lyric gate]

678 is casual

[real pike]

ye I'm 678 and I feel a slacker

[lyric gate]

pog

[coral ibex]

same

i have lots of crests to farm

[wise plume]

meanwhile im 674

[gloomy heart]

yeah im 671

what a noob

[lyric gate]

i can be 683

when i upgraded everything

calculated itxd

683.03

[wise plume]

i need to do like 15 timed 12's to be fully maxed

[lyric gate]

well if you time a 12 in 20 min dont take that long

good night everyone going to sleep

[wise plume]

adios vaquero

does anyone else use mouseover for kicks/shadowstep?

[nimble tartan]

ugh guys every piece i have is mythic its taking forever to farm gilded ..

[nimble tartan]

step only

[wise plume]

can you post the macro? por favor

[nimble tartan]

i let god (tab target) decide what i kick

i cant

[wise plume]

rip

[coral ibex]

sick first message

mod that chatter

[humble verge]

its real, you ignored my signup bro

[balmy condor]

zerocool very noob

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

normal jenny say so

[humble verge]

zerocool is just

zeross in disguise

[brazen sluice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5UjCpTyfHR9UJtmAUmxL5i should i trust this sim or

[runic hinge]

You got my message

[hallow glade]

In sims, can jastor diamond affect signet of the priory on use?

[runic hinge]

So incredibly based

[balmy condor]

yep

[runic hinge]

Zero cool for purple name

[royal surge]

for what item i replace jastors , my normal ring or crye circlet?

[jaunty sparrow]

whatever sims better

[balmy condor]

whatever sims higher

damn

[gusty mirage]

woof

[balmy condor]

jinx?

we kissing?

[gusty mirage]

damn now surgo owes you a kiss

[jaunty sparrow]

yeah let's kiss

[balmy condor]

what's the procedure here

YOOOOOOO

BIG SMOOCHERS IN CHAT

[novel star]

can i watch

[balmy condor]

ofc queen

[jaunty sparrow]

no I'm embarassed

[balmy condor]

don't listen to surgo

[novel star]

thank u king

[novel star]

wasn’t planning on it

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

[fallow canopy]

thicc 10m

[red schooner]

Literally unkillable

[thin portal]

Featuring Ryukage live from the courthouse. Jury selection has been halfway done. They took all day to literally do nothing. We have lost all day to make monies irl and gilded farm in wow. Hallpppppp meeeee

Can someone stealth me out?

[coral ibex]

all the mobs in a courthouse have true sight eyes bro

no

[tall atlas]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtlety.

[tall atlas]

me arguing with my RL about the adds on bandit

[worthy rose]

inb4 raid lead just benches you for unholy or some shit

[tall atlas]

am i incorrect tho?

[worthy rose]

youre not

i have the same argument with my irl friends too when we do raids

[balmy condor]

I mean you should just be drive-by slamming a rupture on the adds

[worthy rose]

assassination is pretty susge at swtiching targets like that

[balmy condor]

but you can't be hard swapping to them

[tall atlas]

yeah im doing that for free energy anyway

[balmy condor]

that won't work

[worthy rose]

based whispy has spoken

and shared his wisdom

if raidlead is a dick just copypasta what whispyr says

whats the raidlead gonna do

argue with the best rogue NA

[tall atlas]

for context i am punjabi lol

[tall atlas]

love you

[coral ibex]

heroic mugzee pug was kinda sloppy but we were gonna kill it since the pumpers were alive and knew what to do

[nimble tartan]

imo you can swap to them and if killing adds in time is a pain point for your guild it only helps

[coral ibex]

RL has a full on mental breakdown and disbands the raid

mid pull

boss had 20% hp

xd

[nimble tartan]

and as prog goes on and it gets easier for them to be damaged properly u can adjust

and get off em

[balmy condor]

I mean at that point you just wouldn't play assa I'm ngl

swapping to an add as assa isn't even going to be that impressive

[nimble tartan]

if u were tho i think its more than fine

[balmy condor]

it's not like you swap to an add and kaboom 3million add dps

it's like okay you're doing 300k, now you swap and do 400k

[nimble tartan]

its more than not swapping its just the reality less overall but if it makes the diff for that pull it mattered but thats just my own way of playing

i totally get your point though

[tall atlas]

I have been asked to submit this for whispyr and the colleagues revuew

[coral ibex]

looks correct

[tall atlas]

this is caustic and drive by ruptures

[balmy condor]

yeah seems about right

[coral ibex]

this is rik barrels?

[balmy condor]

this is 19 pulls and a kill for my guild

[coral ibex]

wait

[tall atlas]

fucking love you

[coral ibex]

oab assistant damage???

they're complaining about that?

[balmy condor]

yeah should be completely irrelevant after nerfs

but idk

[coral ibex]

that's wild bro

wtf

[balmy condor]

is what it is

[tall atlas]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/96RtJFp1TYwZmGWL and here are the logs for our first night of bandit prog for your review

[coral ibex]

i guess your comp is a little susge for spread cleave

[worthy rose]

can sub even do that?

[coral ibex]

your boomie should be doing way more tho

[worthy rose]

i think thats an outlaw only thing if we're talking rogues

[coral ibex]

like

[balmy condor]

I mean kinda yeah

[coral ibex]

a lot more

your boomie is not being ethical

[nimble tartan]

oh ya first night of prog dude im swappin to those attendants forsure

[tall atlas]

as long as you have sectech tbh

thats all you would do

[worthy rose]

yeah

[balmy condor]

yeah I'm with omr on this tbh

[worthy rose]

for heroic raiding tho i think even if half the group is competent

[balmy condor]

you should swap on first day

[worthy rose]

they can carry the other half

[balmy condor]

just to see fight

eventually the raid will learn to do add damage and it'll be okay

[nimble tartan]

like i said when everyone gets comfortable by day 2 or 3 for those phases youre chillin to not swap

[balmy condor]

then you quietly move back

[nimble tartan]

tbh this comes up a lot for rogue gameplay

same with sub

like on rik i was hittin the far barrels

[mossy sundial]

does rogue have way to get out of the cages on mythic mugzee? sorry am dumb

[nimble tartan]

for prog so we dont wipe

[balmy condor]

no

[mossy sundial]

i cri

[vagrant brook]

tell your rl to ask the ret why he is doing shit add dmg

you're doing fine

unless you swap to sub and use your cds on the adds

[coral ibex]

it just can't be real life that your prog point on bandit is add damage

[mighty vine]

I feel like during our prog rn, our adds are hitting 25% before a coin can even be rolled into them

[coral ibex]

same

we used boss baits to break the add shields half the time

bc it was faster

[mighty vine]

yeah melee stacks on melee add to just auto bonk it

[vagrant brook]

melee add should be a non issue so just make the ranged players attack the 2nd add and its free

[coral ibex]

sorry here's just assistants

[indigo ginkgo]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[mighty vine]

Yeah this was our assistant damage on our best pull at about 30% on our first full night of prog

[nova kelp]

Getting the coins right is probably your biggest wall on that fight after the nerfs.

We saw the last phase twice total lol.

[timid moth]

@hazy geyser why did you roll need on that int dagger bud

[gusty mirage]

[mighty vine]

Woulda been a good pull too, didnt even get to truly pad yet

[worthy rose]

why WOULDN'T you is the question

grief your healers and casters

[clever sparrow]

what you guys do with chips?

not potato chips

[frozen glacier]

mythic signet

[clever sparrow]

i mean

[Puzzling Cartel Chip]

[clever sparrow]

ALREADY HAVE THAT

[worthy rose]

oh wow

the week10 mythic stats

outlaw is surpassing assassination

how do we all feel about that

[thorn thorn]

Tell your RL he is a dumbass

[thin portal]

What is your game plan on stix

[runic hinge]

Great

[thin portal]

Shadowstep rupture far away adds

Spatter from boss

[worthy rose]

i let the other dps deal with adds

stick on boss and keep blastin

if they complain i share what whispyr posted above

coz what are they gonna do argue witht he best rogue NA

[clever sparrow]

WTF IS 10k for recraft

[worthy rose]

disgusting

tell him to pound sand

https://tenor.com/view/beach-man-flip-head-stuck-in-sand-gif-19286703

[clever sparrow]

lol

[tall atlas]

he is not a dumbass hes a very nice man

[worthy rose]

i think the only way to make the rl happy if he forces u to switch

is to go outlaw

no bleeds no nothin

just take the adds to compton or detroit

start blastin

get your procs

pistol shot and bte

pew pew

[jaunty sky]

Yeah take the killing spree build specifically

Spend half the fight in coin stun

[hazy geyser]

What the fuck is a retired healer main doing here?

[spice spire]

Yeah call me sand

[tall atlas]

idk probs playing rogue?

[hazy geyser]

Naaah

[tall atlas]

fair

[elder plume]

I came back to WoW playing as rogue, switched out to assa (still learning spec for sure) - had today an heroic LoU, not happy with my results and I want to get a feedback from more experienced players than me. 1.4kk DPS overall in 5 fights, wowanalyzer wasn't looking that bad when I've used this log and I'm left here wondering what went bad: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bZPqrwYV6QkKNdnB

[runic hinge]

@spice spire

[spice spire]

I’m driving home to raid smh

[royal lantern]

you hit Boss and roll balls because ball rolling is literally the only thing that matters?

2-3 assinged ranged free the bombs and then they go into the melee blender and die

melee and all other ranged hit boss, thats it lol

[hollow talon]

On stix I usually log out and log into my balance druid and get reinvited to the raid

[royal lantern]

balance druid

https://tenor.com/view/unfriend-block-discord-no-friend-not-friends-gif-22379633

[spice surge]

Assa does really good on stix

[royal lantern]

i mean, its stix

[fresh kelp]

sub can def do it, doubt you would need to that much anymore tho

[royal lantern]

98% of wipes are because of balls lol

[fresh kelp]

here's our prog

assistant dmg

[strange python]

if rupture boutta run out but im sitting on a darkest night what am i prioing, also do we ever CT in ST in the hybrid build for keys

[spice surge]

Darkest night, but ideally you rupture the finisher before that so you dont end up in that situation

And no dont CT on pure ST unless you play bleed (aka no amplifying poison)

[strange python]

yer

got it

[humble verge]

well

failed prio 15 sadge

1 second over lulw

tank forgot a 3pack before 2nd boss

shit happens ig

[tall atlas]

amazing dam bro well done

[humble verge]

i had all the 4 deaths

Sadge

[royal lantern]

crit more bozo

[humble verge]

like

if i didnt die to JUMPSTARTING miniboss before last boss

we wouldve timed

also

i died like 1 time to aoe on last boss ome

i forget im not doing 12s

and i should feint

[buoyant herald]

oh shit max hyping up hekili on stream, can't wait to see how this goes

[tall atlas]

tbh regardless of your opinion of it and those who use it, its amazing

[humble verge]

i can tell you, hekili is much better than the ptr 1 button

[clever sparrow]

is it that bad?

[humble verge]

its great start at learning a new spec

[humble verge]

idk

[worthy rose]

i dont get the hate on hekili

it seems pretty good

[humble verge]

0,2s on gcd

is pretty bad for overall dps

hekili just suggest you what to do

the other does dps for you, but at a dps loss

[worthy rose]

if you take each fight on a case by case basis hekili gets you to like near 100% operating potential

[clever sparrow]

tbh using GCE

is so much better

[worthy rose]

but its if you have to consider every pull in a dungeon

hekili doenst know how to do that

so you end up mad dps loss

[humble verge]

why

did i reply to you

[humble verge]

gce wass

[worthy rose]

coz im that magnetic

youve been charmed

[clever sparrow]

dude i have 9 days gt

i need 2 more 13

[tall atlas]

the way hekili works though

and the data they use is usually pretty close to spot on

genuinely never used it but watched friends use it and its amazing

[worthy rose]

hekili is damn near 100% operating potential tho

[royal lantern]

no??

[worthy rose]

anyone who hates on it is just wrong

[royal lantern]

tf

[clever sparrow]

agreed

its good

[worthy rose]

but the problem with hekili is it takes every fight as a separate instance

it doenst consider the overarching dungeon

or boss fight

[royal lantern]

like, tf are you talking about now lmao

[jaunty sky]

That one is more accessibility option for omega casuals tho

[royal lantern]

all of you

jesus christ

[worthy rose]

tryan is a hater for the sake of hating

have u tried hekili

if you watch hekili it will be damn near the same as your own rotation i assure you

[humble verge]

what is that one

hekili or 1 button ptr

[jaunty sky]

1 button

[humble verge]

well yeah

[royal lantern]

why the fuck should i use it in the first place

[humble verge]

but then you could literally just go play raid shadow legends

😴

[royal lantern]

and if you say "learning", stop right there

[worthy rose]

surely you need to knwo what it is before you start hating on it with such a passion

[royal lantern]

you aint learning shit, if you wanna learn a spec, you would look uo how it works and like, actually practice and memorise the stuff

and not go "lol download the ability picture addon and press whatever Picture shows up"

thats the opposite of learning, thats not caring

[jaunty sky]

It will let ppl enjoy new parts of the game idc, I'll throw it on for character leveling dont get to touch shit in timewalking dungeons anyways

[royal lantern]

what the fuck is that take again

whats going on lol

[worthy rose]

i aint here to convince anyone to depend on hekili

im just sayin ur hate is unfounded

[wise plume]

i use hekili in 16's, works great

[royal lantern]

do i need to download a shity "rotation helper" to say that rotation helpers are not helping at all and dont teach shit

[coral ibex]

its for players who dont care about learning or being good

and thats fine

[royal lantern]

yes

but acting as if its a good thing

[jaunty sky]

It forms muscle memory, which is like step 2
Bind keys > get muscle memory for what's where > learn rotation > understand rotation and be able to make decisions for more dps

[royal lantern]

is a bit of a oof take

[coral ibex]

it is a good thing that those players get that accessibility

[worthy rose]

tryan is a purist and has strong opinions

let him be

[royal lantern]

im a purist for saying that you should learn your Spec

[worthy rose]

the option of using hekili is there

[royal lantern]

i cant anymore

[worthy rose]

its better that it exists than it to not exist

and thats all there is to it

[jaunty sky]

I can't wait to do top dps in a raid with 1 button

[coral ibex]

you dont have to learn your spec to do the story and do delves and world quests

that shit doesnt matter

[rigid acorn]

Can i get away with low haste in raid or do i have to recraft my m+ gear

[coral ibex]

you dont understand what being a casual is like

[jaunty sky]

I really hope they put a lil something in that says 'I'm using assist' or whatever

[worthy rose]

give a person a buff or something on them thats easily visible

[humble verge]

yeah not that makes perfect sense

[worthy rose]

"one button rotation user"

[humble verge]

but it seems the intention Ion has for it, would be for end content

[jaunty sky]

True tho, whatever our perception of a casual is, it's so much more casual

[royal lantern]

its being under the tank

0,3sec delay ON EVERY ABILITY is absolutely gigantic

like

thats so big, you cant imagine lol

[worthy rose]

i dont think hekili is usable in end content right

it encourages too much tunnel visioning on the picture bar

[royal lantern]

it isnt

[jaunty sky]

It's the guy who logs in every evening to go explore and do pet battles

[royal lantern]

which is kinda my point

for the wq casual? yeha sure

[jaunty sky]

You have not played with casual raid loggers and it shows

[royal lantern]

for somebody that wants to play the game? fuck no

[inland escarp]

I 100% know of some people who purple parsed mythic with hekili lmao

[royal lantern]

whats a casual raidlogger for you

and you still dont realise how big 0,3 sec is lol

[coral ibex]

i know people for whom "end game" is progressing NORMAL MODE of the raid and "pushing m+" means doing 6/7 keys and they will unironically do better with the rotation assist

they like playing the game too

[royal lantern]

0,3 sec is BY DEFAULT 1ability permantely behind for every 5 abilitys

[coral ibex]

they changed it to a 25% gcd penalty not a flat amount

[royal lantern]

thats even bigger then lol

then its every 4 abilitys you are 1 behind

[lost wharf]

I'm an idiot. I bought half a spark instead of the socket with my vault coins. Can I somehow get the currency back with a ticket or is it doomed?

[royal lantern]

[worthy rose]

could be doomed

[royal lantern]

doomed

[worthy rose]

but in the long run youll have excess anyway before end of season

so it shouldnt be too big of a deal

[inland escarp]

Support won’t help you lol

[worthy rose]

ive met absolute potatos on lfr and normal raiding

[lost wharf]

Unlucky. Good thing my damage is ass anyway. Won't make a difference.

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-elmo-fire-gif-26388239

[worthy rose]

mood

[jaunty sky]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:wn1ajYyMKV4CRZbD?fight=47&type=damage-done&start=9220130&end=9515647

[royal lantern]

you dont need to play good for purple or orange or w/e

get externals, get favorable killtimers, have a team that wants you to get good parses->you get them

[jaunty sky]

Half of this raid would be better with 1 button

[worthy rose]

im gonna say this nuclear hot take right

wow is a pretty shit game in and of itself

the gameplay isnt what keeps people playing imo

its the people you meet

the guild youre in and friends u have

[coral ibex]

disagree

i play wow for the gameplay

[jaunty sky]

For some people yes

[broken lion]

are we pyrotechnic needle dropper enjoyers?

[royal lantern]

i play wow for both lol

[worthy rose]

like if i didnt have irl friends who played this game

[haughty flicker]

some people are stockholm syndromed into staying by friends

[worthy rose]

this is a dead game to me

gg

[haughty flicker]

but for an mmo wow still definitely has some of the best systems and gameplay of the genre

unfortunately

[worthy rose]

i have the mythic dungeon version of that

shadowskean dagger

[jaunty sky]

I dropped FFXIV bc they fucked up my class and hopped back into WoW especially for gameplay

[worthy rose]

fair

[broken lion]

crazy cos I got no irls that play it

[worthy rose]

mt irl friends are the ones who roped me back into TWW

last time i played was cata and i tried to get htem to play

gg

how the turn tables

[royal lantern]

which job? (doesnt matter because they all are the same just with a different paintjob )

[loud mason]

i see most people run 2 different builds on m+, well i say different but its only 2 points changing.
-changing garrote + ma for shiv + twist the knife,
-is 1 of them easier to play is basiclly what im woundering

[jaunty sky]

BLM

[inland escarp]

A team that wants you to parse well? Lmao what. They still have to do the mechanics and hit the buttons. They got no PI’s.

[haughty flicker]

everyone laugh at this user

playing blm when pict exists

[coral ibex]

PCT is dog bruh

fym

[jaunty sky]

I don't play it anymore wym

I played before dawntrail

[royal lantern]

are you running +18keys

[haughty flicker]

i havent played in a bit but picto was legit just better blm when it came out

[royal lantern]

if the answer is no, you dont play that build ever

[jaunty sky]

I didn't even make it through the story

[haughty flicker]

like it literally did everything better

[coral ibex]

yea and its since been nerfed

[balmy condor]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[coral ibex]

and is worse than BLM

[royal lantern]

what

mate, you dont know how easy it is to manipulate parsing lol

[jaunty sky]

I am FSH main anyways

[haughty flicker]

based

[coral ibex]

i have xiv reclears in an hour

[royal lantern]

literally just going "let that guy do most aoe padding this week" will make you very high

[jaunty sky]

I forgot a cinder window today fuck

[loud mason]

14s when i stoped playing my dh tank, decided to reroll dps as routing became so insanely unnessesary extra work xDD

[royal lantern]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[royal lantern]

🙂

[runic hinge]

I can’t read

[royal lantern]

me neither, why did you insult my mom

[runic hinge]

I dictate to Stu and he reads for me

[maiden sierra]

Ive done 16 keys today, killed mythic mugzee (green parse ) and did some gally prog.
Ive been up since 9am til midnight.
Im absolutelt shattered... ive grown old and weak.
Past me would feel ashamed, future me (next weeks me) is rolling in his grave.

[loud mason]

it calls it bleed builds but i can't find the build itself, can u link the talent page ?

[humble verge]

rookie numbers

[fast phoenix]

this probably says more about the overall raid group/kill time than anything

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

[runic hinge]

There’s a link in that message. Click the blue text

[loud mason]

ahhh thx

[merry tapir]

which build we using for raid? we just stick to wowhead?

[barren yarrow]

the leftside is dungeon rightside is raid, looks like for raid im changing circes

[jaunty sky]

How much is the difference

[barren yarrow]

1sec

i guess not much

[maiden sierra]

Stamina alone makes it better in keys

[jaunty sky]

I guess if u can remember to swap

[barren yarrow]

yeah build different profiles i guess

[maiden sierra]

Just use the gear set feature

[barren yarrow]

i mean jaster at 8/8 hero give 3k more stamina

[barren yarrow]

are you talking about in game or raidbots?