assassination

[rotund oak]

same story for my rogue tbh,its been years since my rogue was lucky with vault early

this was shadowlands with the plague sword

[waxen oyster]

Well i crafted a belt and cloak last week since weak slots

both in vault this week

but at least crests werent "wasted"

[rotund oak]

this is cursed

[waxen oyster]

I mean atp i guess it matters less

since sparks are not scarce

[rotund oak]

ild only be happy crafting on sockets

like neck or ring

else i dont even bother

[waxen oyster]

Yeah good thing i didnt have a socket for that belt

ring is hard to justify since cyrce is so strong

and jastor

[inland dirge]

wtf!

D1 hater

[hidden bay]

you remember that timeout you hit me with?

[rotund oak]

jastor is very big

[hidden bay]

exactly

[waxen oyster]

yeah was last week's vault

[inland dirge]

you are omitting critical evidence

who did it first bub

[waxen oyster]

upgrading from a normal tw one 2 weeks prior

also had a belt and cloak in that weeks vault

funny....

[spice spire]

You two gonna kiss or?

[rotund oak]

like idk

cursed for sure

[waxen oyster]

yeah its a cursed season where i was wearing

6 crafted items

[inland dirge]

yes with tongue

[runic hinge]

[waxen oyster]

and its not df s2 where crafted was same ilvl

as mythic

[spice spire]

Haha can I watch or

[inland dirge]

certainly

[waxen oyster]

Gonna be weird how its not worth spending dinars

until farm

[spice spire]

W

[waxen oyster]

since gally has most of the good shit

[final star]

farm be now

[waxen oyster]

Like im assuming dinar items are not on the giga upgrade path

like df right?

[final star]

nope they are myth/hc track

[waxen oyster]

so its a waste to buy hc dinar items

unless you wont do mythic on that char

im assuming theres no way to upgrade them after doing the content at least

[shy heron]

Correct

They are set in stone as hero track

[rotund oak]

Chicken salad with cabbage,pepper,little mayo,onion and avocado

[ebon vine]

I have 7 alts and prob won’t be doing mythic so I’m happy with heroic items. 4 LfR bosses for a 671 potential item is a good deal.

[final star]

beef short rib with a paprika and red pepper marinade

[waxen oyster]

I mean, you need to kill the boss to buy drops from it.

Alts can easily get 681 rn with delves.

[inland escarp]

Not hero

[waxen oyster]

of just generic items

[charred shard]

are we finally getting rid of Cyrce's Circlet, or still bis?

[coral ibex]

sim it

[past bobcat]

Raidbots is updated just wait for whispyr pin

or sim it

[waxen oyster]

It likely depends on what rings you have

[hidden bay]

pin for what

you just sim it

[waxen oyster]

People can't think for themselves.

If you wanted to not sim you probably could also just add up how much stats you receive from cyrce

and compare with a 681 ring

Not like cyrce gems aren't a set value for each gem or anything.

[lapis depot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[runic hinge]

You could just get rid of it for 5k Stam

[waxen oyster]

overrated bro

sounds like a healer issue

[cosmic robin]

Is eye of kezan sim bait?

[balmy condor]

Honestly might need to make a pin saying sim your circlets

Cause shit is getting ridiculous

[waxen oyster]

whispyr what if there was a website

that let you sim your own character

[balmy condor]

No?

What does that mean

[lean plover]

🤣🤣🤣people readibg pins before asking🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[waxen oyster]

bro probably brought it into m+

not reading context of 5min sim

[vale shore]

for ME, and MY sims, Eye of Kazan is outperformed by Seaforium pacemaker in all but the longest fights, so I will probably just use it on gallywix

[waxen oyster]

Do we get second spark half this week natty

idr

[vagrant hearth]

how many bosses and how much time for aoe sim?

[royal lantern]

dslice

[runic hinge]

69 bosses 420 minutes

Dankest sim

[cosmic robin]

Is 8/8 myth track tomorrow 684 or 686 ilvl?

[coral ibex]

684

[vale shore]

6 ilvls from their max now

[lyric vale]

And for craft we need to get 30more gilded to upgrade them?

[vale shore]

yes

to 681

[lyric vale]

Ahh

I see u all in doungen tmrw

[vale shore]

a 30 rogue dungeon run would be pretty dope

[lyric vale]

Hell yeah we could switch on evasion cd

[balmy condor]

You’re right

[vale shore]

like the old Black Rock Spire steath runs

and BRD

that whole mountain was made for rogues

[lyric vale]

Wasnt there back there;(

Back to nerding imo go watch some logs good luck guys on vault

[waxen oyster]

If you have alts that are geared

It's technically worth to upgrade gear on them first

to get crest discount on main

[buoyant herald]

crafted gear on alts is good for this, since crafted gear never gets the crest discount

[waxen oyster]

Well to 681, so if you already had 678s you technically only save 5 per

[brave comet]

people on reddit have been telling others not to get eye of kazan cause its a garbage trinket that only sims well but doesnt perform well in practice, hence simbait

[hidden bay]

everyone knows reddit knows everything

[brave comet]

theyre idiots, but it is a massive source of misinformation

[runic hinge]

Reddit told me Whispyr big noob and rogue need restealth. Must be true !

[loud light]

"doesn't perform well in practice" is funny for a plain stat buff. you just have to read what the trinket actually does. in dungeons it can be quite bad if your group isn't chain pulling since it's going to fall off quickly.

[waxen oyster]

People read reddit for facts?

I just read it to watch people fight

[waxen oyster]

Yeah well people read "bis" and nothing farther.

[glad mortar]

Anyone summed a Heroic Jastor versus a Mythic Seaforium?

[waxen oyster]

Tiktok attention spans

[stable cove]

anyone know why i do not have an option to turn runed into gilded? is there a quest i gotta do?

[glad mortar]

Simmed*

[waxen oyster]

relog maybe

[stable cove]

did 😦

its been like this for a couple weeks

even when i had 658+

[loud light]

does the vendor not even have the item at all?

[stable cove]

nope

only can buy runed n below

[waxen oyster]

game doesnt like your mog

obvs why

[stable cove]

scam

[hasty echo]

maybe swap ring spots?

[stable cove]

tried ;/

and eqipped diff ring

[hasty echo]

or put current season ring in

damn

idk

[stable cove]

welp guess im screwed

i have like 600 runed lol

[loud light]

did you get the runed of the undermine achievement? or is that 'broken' too?

[stable cove]

i do not have the achieve

idk why

[loud light]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=40944/runed-of-the-undermine there's a script in here to try to dump which slot is the problem

[stable cove]

i legit have everything 658+

it says its my weapons lol

[royal lantern]

tbf, its not THAT great for most people

[stable cove]

my weps r 684 and 681

[royal lantern]

like, its mostly for the last 3 fights on mythic and the few giga coordinated m+ groups

for the rest eye is kinda eeeeehhhh....

[loud light]

with the gear upgrades I don't even know if it's going to be that good for oab or mugzee anymore

[waxen oyster]

It's just going to get worse

[loud light]

prog kills are getting faster and faster

[waxen oyster]

as we get more aura buffs

and gear

[past bobcat]

either of the raid rings is better than siren ring lets go

fuck this ring

[onyx linden]

How good is hot sauce? Is it worth prepping that over ilvl for raid tonight?

[royal lantern]

what

[stable cove]

GUYS

[loud light]

0.1-0.2%

[stable cove]

THE WHOLE TIER I HAD AN INT DAGGER ON

[royal lantern]

isnt that like, a passive buff

[stable cove]

THATS WHY IT DIDNT WORK

i got rank 15 heroic parses with an int dagger on

thats a flex

[royal lantern]

all that int on the weapon but not IRL

[loud light]

scammed by dagger vs stabber

[gusty mirage]

[loud light]

we're stabbers here

[onyx linden]

Hot sauce? Its passive yeah but I gotta burn through normal raid to get the rep

[royal lantern]

srsly, why is it not called Ritual Knife or something like that

lol

[royal lantern]

its 4 bosses man, just do last 3 on LFR and then a random other boss on LFR and its done lol

[stable cove]

can i convert my int dagger to agi

[waxen oyster]

no

[royal lantern]

no

[stable cove]

or do i have to make whole new

sadge

[royal lantern]

yes

[gusty mirage]

if it makes you feel any better, during amirdrassil our other rogue tried rolling on the int dagger and got mad he wasn't considered for it

[royal lantern]

you have to make a new one

[gusty mirage]

ISN'T THAT RIGHT @hazy geyser

[royal lantern]

a certain player that iirc was in a world first team made a int dagger

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/wombat-cute-smelly-boy-gif-25537705

[royal lantern]

[onyx linden]

Yeah I guess

[gusty mirage]

a certain player that is on a world first team crafted his legendary on his gloves during Sanctum

[waxen oyster]

We still do hc skip for jastor cope

[gusty mirage]

was it the same one

[royal lantern]

fuck you, you get that shity mail belt 3x

cus thats what we get every week instead of jesters

[waxen oyster]

We've actualyl seen

[royal lantern]

[waxen oyster]

that belt 5x in the last 2 weeks

[royal lantern]

tbf, cant complain, we dropped 2 and i got the 2nd drop

[waxen oyster]

got normal one from tw box 4 weeks ago

hc from vault last week

[royal lantern]

and god

can they nerf nuke silence sigil and solar beam into the ground

that shit gets old

so oppresive

and knowing blizzard, they will change everything EXCEPT those 2 abilitys

[split grail]

Still using Cyrce's after the ilvl boost?

[inland escarp]

Sigil took a decent nerf tbh

[royal lantern]

cool, its still a aoe silence that for some reason also functions as a kick

with low cd

like ???????

[balmy condor]

if it sims higher for you

[royal lantern]

silence sigil->chains into solar beam is disgusting

[inland escarp]

Warrior has a pretty big aoe silence as well. Beam is probably more oppressive tbh

[viscid spear]

So would you guys say that Signet/Pacemaker would be my best bet for trinkets this season, since I'm never going to kill Mythic Bandit and Gallywix?

[royal lantern]

yes

[balmy condor]

would be your best trinkets even if you were to kill those

[robust axle]

Signet and HoC are pretty equal for me even

[balmy condor]

that's cause they are equal

[viscid spear]

I'll have to goon a full set of 12s then

I also need to slide my Druid into a Heroic Bandit kill

[safe patrol]

hmm jastor + crafted beating jastor + circlet for me and forgot to put the coming 6 ilvl gain on crafted in the gear compare

nice

[buoyant herald]

crafted+jastor at max were like 0.2% better than crafted+circes so im taking that stam boost

(heroic)

[balmy condor]

maybe I do need to make a pin

unreal

[buoyant herald]

"sim it, but it'll be so close you shouldn't care"

easy 😛

[hidden inlet]

There are some specs that are intentionally almost always good

[viscid spear]

[hidden inlet]

There are some many patches where boomies do better 2T dps than destro and frost mages, with their uncapped aoe

[viscid spear]

Blizzard probably thinks Combat is still a Rogue spec

[safe patrol]

I am not proud that I were the final reason for a potential pin, been having a good time lately reading here and giggling by myself over all the circlet stuff but I kinda dived straight in myself at last

[buoyant herald]

wear it like a badge of honour

[balmy condor]

Circlet and Dinar

Some if not most people will be replacing circlet with heroic jastor + max myth rings. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR EVERYONE SIM YOURSELF

Dinar Recommendations are on wowhead use the tool for your progression. Some notes:

• Eye of Kezan is only good in Mythic Raid Progression with long fights >5min
• Signet of the Priory and House of cards are EQUAL, pick whatever you can do at myth track
• YOU CANNOT UPGRADE PIECES FROM HERO TRACK TO MYTH TRACK, IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO GET AN ITEM ON MYTH IT MIGHT BE WORTH WAITING

[ebon steppe]

[buoyant herald]

[balmy condor]

next person to show up with a dent in their forehead and ask if we replace circlet gets thrown directly into a fucking volcano

[buoyant herald]

don't threaten me with a good time

[manic sphinx]

Perfect timing for this, thx

[viscid spear]

Will we replace Circlet next season?

[runic hinge]

Can I replace circlet with a Crunchwrap supreme

[viscid spear]

[runic hinge]

Or just love

[balmy condor]

crunchwrap supreme gets replaced with dn

[loud light]

quick someone ask about the delve belt

[balmy condor]

in your mouf

[limber swallow]

Before or after 2am?

[normal mist]

Whispyr i was just talking about you in game

ily

[viscid spear]

What if I have a steak quesadilla?

[balmy condor]

do you want to know the technology for that

[buoyant herald]

i could really go for some of deez nuggies right now actually

[loud light]

don't wear items with zero stam / don't do delves

is my guess

[balmy condor]

no no

even worse

[winged sun]

OMGOMG IS THE BELT COMING TODAY OMGOMG WHY NO STAMINA OMGOMG WHAT POWER IS BEST

WHERE IS THE DELVE GUYS

?!?!??!?!?

WAOPDKWADOAWDAKWPDOAWKDA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[viscid spear]

Somebody ask Quake about AoE damage reduction

[balmy condor]

it's coming next patch zeross calm down

[winged sun]

i know i know

[normal mist]

He can't

he just woke up

[winged sun]

im just memeing about randoms asking about the belt 24/7

[loud light]

he heard there was tech

[balmy condor]

anyway, the worse thing, you take the vers effect right

gives vers, ramps down as you attack

then after your cds

you macro the belt interface

and swap the belt effect

[winged sun]

i got some wine flavored beans today

cant wait to try them tmrw

[balmy condor]

so then you take the stacking crit chance

[wooden star]

This for the belt? Sorry trying to keep up

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

and then right

[wooden star]

Nm you answered

[balmy condor]

once you did that

[buoyant herald]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[balmy condor]

you hit the macro again

so you open the interface again

mid combat

and then you swap back to get the max vers before your cds

[winged sun]

im scared of opening that pack of beans it feels rly exquisite

[spice spire]

Promise?

[winged sun]

almost like i dont deserve it

[balmy condor]

dare you to ask

[winged sun]

hi quake dog guy

[spice spire]

Ask what?

[balmy condor]

good boy

[restive glade]

whats point of buying if not to use - how much was it

[spice spire]

Hello zeross jerry connoisseur

[worthy rose]

hope everyone had a good vault day

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/self-control-type-bark-woof-gif-9489710035771535173

[worthy rose]

i upgraded my dagger to 684 already

noice

first piece of 684 gear

[winged sun]

cheaper than most exotic beans but i think it might taste rly good

around 50$ i think

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna meow at you in voice papi

[worthy rose]

do it

il be i voice chat too

[spice spire]

Please no

[ebon steppe]

[worthy rose]

gaslighting zac be like "dont threaten me with a good time"

[manic sphinx]

Are 12s the best to farm gilded if you can do em?

[spice spire]

No I am not a meow connoisseur

[spice spire]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yes

[royal lantern]

Yes

[winged sun]

Yes

[spice spire]

Whispyr knows a lot of my lore unfortunately

[ebon steppe]

Yes

[waxen oyster]

There are probably a foul number

of boosted animals

due to resil keys

[balmy condor]

Okay but is it resil or just m+

[royal lantern]

you can boost my animal

[balmy condor]

Cause there are a foul number of animals past 3400

[safe patrol]

okey since I already caused you misery Whispyr, personal thoughts on snacking a hc jastor if am closing in on starting gally prog. got m signet and heroic kezan + mythic stix trinket so it stands between seaforium and jastor hc for tomorrow.

[worthy rose]

If you’ve carried a vegetable to the finish line you’re part of the problem too

Me and my irl friends have carried way too many people to timed 12’s

We should start charging

[balmy condor]

That’s basically where I’m at, I have myth signet, myth pacemaker, heroic kezan

So my first dinar is heroic jastor

And then when we kill it’s mythic jastor

[waxen oyster]

M+ players are a special breed of

yeah not ending that statement

[balmy condor]

And then I don’t know what the hell my third dinar is

Cause I have literally no use for it

[safe patrol]

cheers man, appreciate your work

[balmy condor]

Np

[safe patrol]

will likely do hc jastor too then but I have a feeling seaforium or jastor is brewing in my eu vault either way so will be a no brainer at last

[runic hinge]

Myth capo for your outlaw arc

[royal lantern]

i probs grab HoC just to make gearing next season start a bit less cringe with stats

[waxen oyster]

Just sandbag your droptimizer sim to make you the highest gain.

[spice spire]

What is this painsmith

[waxen oyster]

Then get it from loot

sanctum was kind of a play whatever spec tier

[runic hinge]

Painsmith is me when I get you

[waxen oyster]

Rare time that happens in wow

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-fucking-get-you-neko-atsume-me-when-me-when-i-get-you-mrtheyes-gif-4157721420697656658

[balmy condor]

yeah that sounds semi reasonable

[humble verge]

so uh, if you can get 668ilvl in a week, you can maybe atleast learn to do dps as ele

[waxen oyster]

hoc is just a bit more versatile.

[waxen oyster]

hey pressing lavaburst is hard

Idk i only play chad enh

[humble verge]

this is why i hate doing tuesday weeklies

becomes a 30min run instead of 15

[waxen oyster]

enh is way more fun though

[worthy rose]

12’a give 20 crests right

Fuck that’s a lot of farming we need to do to max out gear again

[humble verge]

harunie

[waxen oyster]

t11 delve map gives 20

[humble verge]

check your worse crests

[worthy rose]

Oh yeah

That’s right

[waxen oyster]

The real bottleneck will be valorstones

[worthy rose]

A lot to convert

[humble verge]

this is like

300+ or so crests for me

[worthy rose]

LOL 1206 and 871

[humble verge]

i forgot you can actually just upgrade crests

[worthy rose]

I’ve been converting my crests as I go tho

[humble verge]

yeah, i just do keys dawg

why would i convert

when i am just a chad gamer

i think i had like

[solar wyvern]

Vdh moment holy

[worthy rose]

Weapon x2, trinkets x2, main piece x3 is the priority for upgrades probably

[humble verge]

5k extra gilded at the end of s1

from pushing keys

[worthy rose]

That’s already 7 x30

[humble verge]

but the thing is

[worthy rose]

210

[humble verge]

the real issue now is also valorstone

even tho people prolly have alts

[worthy rose]

Need 10 timed 12s right off the bat

[royal lantern]

my 662 bear drood does like 2m overall in most dungeons lmao

[humble verge]

i need like 3k maybe

[waxen oyster]

If you want discounts you upgrade on alts first

yeah

[humble verge]

to get fully ugrpaded

[buoyant herald]

weapon x 1 tbh, offhand is like the literal worst slot

[waxen oyster]

I dont get tanks who do low damage

afk at the keyboard

or some shit

[winged sun]

30m and i only just procced lingering darkness

[royal lantern]

maybe you have some on the rep vendors as rewards and didnt pick them up yet

[winged sun]

could've been 35-40m

[solar wyvern]

My bear keep aggro once he has it, just moonfire isnt a lot of gen so the gather is the scariest thing

[waxen oyster]

isnt the gather always the scariest

[worthy rose]

Mutulate hits either both daggers tho

[waxen oyster]

for most tanks

[solar wyvern]

Yeah like what the fluff man just god crit rng how are you getting so much dos

[winged sun]

IDK

[royal lantern]

gathering in guardian sucks lol

like, you need 2x thresh to have full aggro, before that its scary if things just start attacking the mm hunter

[solar wyvern]

I do the same thing and taper off as soon as DM runs out madge

[worthy rose]

I think mainhand > seaforium > signet > offhand > main pieces is the upgrade order

[waxen oyster]

I like when im gathering

and the ret pally just presses divine storm

[humble verge]

ross, did you only do standard making out Scent of Blood there and just do CT and spam envenoms with supercharge?

[winged sun]

yea

supercharge is a dps loss

[humble verge]

reasonable damage then

[winged sun]

tho

im only using it to

[humble verge]

what

[winged sun]

kill the uhh

big guy

[solar wyvern]

The muscle needs ta dieee

[winged sun]

muscle guy

[humble verge]

supercharge dps loss

[winged sun]

yea

[ebon vine]

Hero track doesn’t have any boss requirements. You can just kill 4 LFR bosses for the quest

[humble verge]

ok dawg

[winged sun]

it is a dps loss at big mob counts ye

[novel star]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are boot/wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" overall, but Blessed Weapon Grip + Dawnthread can be VERY VERY slightly better in m+

Always craft a dagger for at least an offhand. Put Ascencion or Blessed Weapon Grip on it. Additional Crafts should be Boots/Cape/Wrist/Belt for your second embellishment, after that whatever low item level slot is fine, necks can be good crafts.
If you have a myth track weapon in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[humble verge]

yeah oc

ofc

[frank trench]

So has anyone reached a point where sim says get rid of circlet? I’m 670 and it still wants me to use lol

[humble verge]

but still giga prio

[winged sun]

yea big big prio

[humble verge]

but like

[winged sun]

super big

[humble verge]

wheres you first 20

[winged sun]

this week for sure

we could've timed a 20 last week but

[humble verge]

[winged sun]

unlucky

nah with 684 its free

[humble verge]

dfc then

[winged sun]

not even close

[humble verge]

yeah

[royal lantern]

tbf, veng dh is the lowest dmg tank rn

but like, veng dh has bigtime fotm going on anyway

when the veng dh has threat problems/low dmg and they pressed soulcleave 3000000x you know wgats going wrong

[humble verge]

100%

im sure we'll see 21 and maybe 22s timed this week

[winged sun]

im sad we didnt time the dfc 20

we killed 3rd boss

but issue is

we never practiced it

we just jumped

[waxen oyster]

I mean i can still do over 2m overalls

[winged sun]

straight from 18 to 20 dfc

[humble verge]

ai

[winged sun]

LOL

[waxen oyster]

at 663

[humble verge]

thats monka

[winged sun]

ye

but we did end up killing the boss

we fixed our movements

and defensives

so

we can live the HIGHEST key

on that boss

[waxen oyster]

If he's not keeping sigil of flame on cd

and utilizing hunt resets

[winged sun]

just a matter of time

till we try it again

[waxen oyster]

yeah feed

[royal lantern]

you are not a braindead m+ fotm ape and probs pull big

[winged sun]

but ye with 684, 20 is super free

21 idk how hard it becomes

but should be doable for sure

[waxen oyster]

I mean fiery brand is a dps cd

[winged sun]

22 idk if its doable just a matter of time till we know

[waxen oyster]

idc what anyone says

[humble verge]

im surprised Alaiya the chinese rogue hasnt pushed more lately

[balmy condor]

probably rerolled fotm

[winged sun]

i mean all the keys are kinda hard at 19

[humble verge]

reasonable

[winged sun]

rogue is incredibly squishy u need to realize that

[frank trench]

God I can’t even get my pugs to survive on DFC 12

[winged sun]

u need to fix ur defensives everywhere

to live 19s

[humble verge]

yeah

looks like he went mage

[royal lantern]

iron fur is a dps button with iron thorn

i REALLY need that ironfur stack x12 even thought my armor capps at 5, trust me, its not for aoe dmg padding

[winged sun]

mage is WAY less dps btw

its not even close

less dps in every situation possible

[waxen oyster]

I pull a buttload when i have brand up

and kinda chill when it aint

[humble verge]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-2/14368534-19-darkflame-cleft wait wtf

[true tapir]

singlet target wanted a call

[humble verge]

they are using drums

[winged sun]

mage is only better than rogue on gorechop

[humble verge]

[winged sun]

we do same st

wdym

[humble verge]

actually using drums in a 19

[winged sun]

we even may do more st if they dont get pi

[humble verge]

is crazy

[winged sun]

idk why ppl think sin has no st

sin has like

the best st in the game probably

in high keys

apart from dk's getting pi

they destroy

[humble verge]

we have, but people see the shit ST i do in my keys and they be like

"yeah they dogwater"

[winged sun]

among the best specs i mean

there are probably weird non m+ specs that can do more

like survival hutner

[balmy condor]

gotta realize that the cn community is just not even remotely the same as the west, RMT is pretty common for boosts and stuff, and even if you're like a high ranked m+ pusher, you could make more money boosting if you were a HIGHER rank. You gotta play fotm, people make a living off of streaming/boosting. They don't join MDI/TGP cause it's not worth their reputation or time, It's entirely different

[true tapir]

are we talking with the caustic spatter raid build here?

[humble verge]

i did like a 12 rook with my guildie

[burnt star]

What build u playing in key?

[winged sun]

why would i run a raid build in m+

[humble verge]

he was playing ww

but he ran raid build

somehow did like

3,8 overall lmao

[waxen oyster]

I mean why would you join mdi

[humble verge]

but pumped 2,5 on first boss

[true tapir]

talking about the dashing scoundrel build

[waxen oyster]

to get paid less than a minimum wage job

XDDDD

[winged sun]

why is it sent like that

wtf

[humble verge]

you know i saw tettles video

[balmy condor]

what is this AI shit

[winged sun]

again

no way

ok w.e

[loud light]

I'd like to report a hacker

[humble verge]

bro is posting malware

[waxen oyster]

Like people dont realize wow is a terrible streaming game

[humble verge]

can we ban ross

[winged sun]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZmxM2mBAAAAAgZB2mBAAAAAg2WGzgZGjZmZZ2mZmBzYGDmZmNLzMDw2MLjNGzYWaMbLDT2GGWA

[humble verge]

please

PLEASE BAN ROSS

[waxen oyster]

and makes like 0 money

[balmy condor]

oh

images are just broken

[humble verge]

is it just .png then

[ebon steppe]

Offhand no

[true tapir]

yea that build does good ST

[waxen oyster]

offhand is likely behind chest/helm/legs

[humble verge]

[red schooner]

Nah, worst slot

[balmy condor]

but like serious what is this AI shit

[humble verge]

and youll get the answer

[waxen oyster]

it might be above meme slots like bracers

or cloak

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[burnt star]

This is even better. Was able to see by clicking image

[balmy condor]

all your talent icons are like fucking glossy

[ebon steppe]

3 members in this team were mdi champions

[winged sun]

yeah

i use

[humble verge]

holy banana

[winged sun]

https://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info25064-CleanIcons-MechagnomeEdition.html

makes all my icons look great

4k

[balmy condor]

😩

[ebon steppe]

And that assa rogue pays them to get in
Well, u know what it is

[humble verge]

waterfuck

[balmy condor]

not the fucking AI upscale

they look so assssssssssssss

[humble verge]

oh yeah would make sense

[royal lantern]

CRRIIIIIINGE

[winged sun]

blizzard one looks more ass

[humble verge]

now that i think about it

they are 3,8

hes 3,6

[balmy condor]

brother look at your crimson tempest icon

[waxen oyster]

rmt is real bad in that region

[balmy condor]

it's so washed

[royal lantern]

bro, literally the oceans boil for ai Shit

cringe af

[winged sun]

i dont even know how the real crimson tempest looks like

[soft drift]

should myth track house of cards be better than signet

[winged sun]

so i'll never know

[soft drift]

it's simming higher

[winged sun]

[soft drift]

but seems to be lower on bloodmallet/logs

[balmy condor]

if you don't have enough mastery then yes

[waxen oyster]

myth hoc is harder to get

[humble verge]

idk

[waxen oyster]

so signet will be more prevalent on logs

[humble verge]

upscaled AI images look kinda wonky

[winged sun]

is HoC simming better btw

cuz

last time i simmed

[balmy condor]

no

[winged sun]

it was a neutral dps loss

[balmy condor]

it's not

[winged sun]

ok ok

[balmy condor]

I literally just made a pin

😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩

[winged sun]

i guess i may just buy priory

[balmy condor]

KMS

[humble verge]

wait lmao

[winged sun]

LLOL

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nickelodeon-handsome-squidward-funny-meme-gif-14625359

[burnt star]

Hoc/signet being the same means i can buy eye aa my 3rd dinar

[humble verge]

i just did a normal

[loud light]

I swore a volcano was going to be involved here

[humble verge]

windows shit s

[burnt star]

For mugzee/gally only

[humble verge]

and it didnt work?

nahhh

.png is done for

[ebon steppe]

Outlaw

[balmy condor]

uber finding out images are broken on discord

after clowning zeros about images being broken on discord

[humble verge]

i just had to be sure whisp

[waxen oyster]

nah gotta buy a myth jetpack

[humble verge]

i thought he posted some corrupt file

[waxen oyster]

with your third dinar

trust

[humble verge]

who knows

🤨

[balmy condor]

try another one

[humble verge]

just watch out

[winged sun]

ok i pick priory because i like it's duration more

[humble verge]

i know where you live whisp

[balmy condor]

maybe the 3 you posted suck too

[humble verge]

you live in the US

alr ill make it a jpeg

[balmy condor]

I do

[humble verge]

2se

c

[balmy condor]

this is true

[humble verge]

ome

[balmy condor]

wow

[humble verge]

whisp

what you think about the draft lottery last night

if you saw

[balmy condor]

ashcat finding out that images are broken on discord after uberscot found out images are broken on discord after he clowned zeross for broken images on discord

incredible work

[viscid spear]

They rigged it for the Mavs

[balmy condor]

the fucking what

[humble verge]

surely

[humble verge]

nba draft lottery

[balmy condor]

I don't watch NBA

[viscid spear]

Image worked fine for me

[humble verge]

dawg is not a dawg

hes a dog

[balmy condor]

I just know things about stuff so I can have semi-coherent conversations with people that I enjoy talking to

[viscid spear]

Sounds like me
I have a gif for that

[balmy condor]

like I keep up with the luca fiasco and whatever

cause it's big news

and people wanna talk

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-demon-cat-i-have-approximate-knowledge-of-many-things-wise-wisdom-gif-4593239

[balmy condor]

I've never watched luca throw a ball though

[viscid spear]

I'm not an expert on many things, but my surface knowledge is usually good enough to appear passable

[balmy condor]

but like I know of him and the news and shit

[loud light]

I know a lot of people who I'd qualify as semi-coherent

[balmy condor]

I know jokic just wants to go home to his horses

[runic hinge]

Luka*

[winged sun]

omg man

this season is so amazing

i love wow

ok?

[viscid spear]

Oklahoma?

[runic hinge]

No that’s my bit

[balmy condor]

it's incredible the difference between outlaw zeross and assa zeross

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

maybe it is the channel

[winged sun]

nah i changed after i stopped playing wow for 1 yr

[worthy rose]

I refuse to sim

[winged sun]

i think i stopped being super hyperactive

[worthy rose]

Why sim myself when I can bug whispyr for the answer

[balmy condor]

based

[balmy condor]

based

[lusty narwhal]

crafting sim at 681 bugged atm?

[balmy condor]

ugly

[viscid spear]

I'm on my way home from work to open my vault
Gonna bother this channel when I do.

[balmy condor]

[winged sun]

@balmy condor i tried the double shiv build whispyr in lower keys

[viscid spear]

[winged sun]

but idk if its just me playing with bad players

i did ALOT of dmg

[humble verge]

WHAT

lmao

[winged sun]

idk its just a cringe playstyle tho

[humble verge]

nothing is working rn

hahaha

[balmy condor]

can tell you from my pissrot io

it is

not good

[humble verge]

i thought it was just png

[winged sun]

[humble verge]

i guess all files wont work

[balmy condor]

dawg is this thing on

[humble verge]

ill burn your router dawg

[winged sun]

idk feels like i almost want to recommend it for low keys

but im sure no one will play it well

6 sec IC sounds incredibly tight for most players

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[winged sun]

feels really dry to play

[balmy condor]

you do not

[prisma carbon]

free from circlet

[balmy condor]

I promise you

[viscid spear]

That's why I remain moist whilst I play

[humble verge]

i just need jastor in myth

[balmy condor]

you just play bleed

[humble verge]

and i should be fine to be free from cyrclet

even hero jastor is fine

[winged sun]

ye im sure most players will do better on bleed

[humble verge]

hybrid still does good tho

[winged sun]

shouldn't people try to learn their spec for once tho

[humble verge]

just more prio funnel

[winged sun]

i guess its like

for outlaw

KiR is the annoying build that does more dps

and HO is the easy one that does good dmg too

[viscid spear]

Maybe I'll pay for a Mythic Gally kill on the last Dinar

[thin portal]

Zeross what's the soup of the day

[winged sun]

coffee soup

feeling the caffiene today ryu

[balmy condor]

I mean if they're never doing more than 12's for the dinars and 3k mount what's the point in forcing shit hard builds on them though

[humble verge]

you got like

20m laying around dawg

[winged sun]

thats possibly true yeah

[viscid spear]

I have a job and a dream, dawg

[balmy condor]

it's just true

oh

right

I forgor

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

okay well

[winged sun]

oh my

i forgot

that

top 1% is like

+14 keys

or someshit

[balmy condor]

yah

[thin portal]

How could you cheat on redbull like this

[viscid spear]

Do people see this when I post an image?

[thin portal]

I'm telling her

[balmy condor]

3k score is top 10% zeross

all 12's

is top 10%

[winged sun]

thats top 10%

no way

[balmy condor]

yes

[winged sun]

yea theres no way they'll play this build

[humble verge]

oblivion wants 12m for JUST the mount on gally

jesus

[winged sun]

they will all run into pulls without deathmark

[fresh kelp]

I wish it was 20m

[winged sun]

and lose mark left and right

forget to rupture

fuck i didnt shiv

[humble verge]

prolly was 20m like 2 weeks ago

[winged sun]

AAAA my spatter

no subterfuge

FUCK FUCK

[balmy condor]

like that's the issue right, we're talking about your build and shit and is it better is it worse does it sim but how does it sim and if you stop garrote then better by 0.6% and make sure it vanishes properly

[fresh kelp]

We only got 14M last week for gally

[balmy condor]

but all dungeons at +6 is top 50% already

and I'm writing guide

and I'm like

[humble verge]

who in the hell do you boost for

[balmy condor]

no one is fucking using this build man

[viscid spear]

I lagged at the start of the key while applying poisons and didn't realize I'm missing one until after the key

[fresh kelp]

14m for the guild not individual cuts

[humble verge]

ah

guild boost

but through adv/community tho

or just in /2

[fresh kelp]

Honestly no clue

[winged sun]

i couldn't agree more i literally forgot the majority of people are just very very casual

[humble verge]

guh

[balmy condor]

yah

[humble verge]

wait, was it a 1 man or 2 man boost

[fresh kelp]

1 person 14 mil

[balmy condor]

and that's only counting the characters raider.io tracks

[humble verge]

kewl

[balmy condor]

like all +6 being top 50%, is just the characters raider.io sees that have run a key

there's a ton of casuals that just

don't do m+

or they fucking do timewalking

[humble verge]

theres a ton of casuals that just do delves for fun

[winged sun]

bleed build is the most cracked open world build in the game

[balmy condor]

and like

follower dungeon

[humble verge]

like

this is unreal

my friend unironically HATES dungeons

[balmy condor]

yah

[humble verge]

ive even tried to get him to do normal/heroics with me

hes played the game on and off since like wod

[winged sun]

ok i guess whoever wants to take out the weakness of a spec can already do it if hes good enough by reading ur builds i guess on wowhead

[humble verge]

i think hes still subbed, but ive not seen him online the past 3 weeks

last time we did the uh

delve boss guy at ?

and like 2 delves for some HC loot

and then he just logs off

[winged sun]

idk why deathstalker's mark is so mandatory man

[balmy condor]

I have no numbers for this, but I would assume based on like guide traffic and stuff, I would assume probably 30-40% of all players simply do not enter m+ at any level

[winged sun]

i wish they fixed that

[viscid spear]

Dead By Daylight is the same way.
There are achievements that only 0.1% of players have. But that's just taking everyone that has ever played at any point into account. Someone could've played for 5 minutes six years ago but they're still part of the number.

[winged sun]

like if u go into a pull without mark

[humble verge]

the funny thing is tho

[winged sun]

u literally do way less than tank dps

[humble verge]

one of my guildies went straight R

[leaden root]

I’m sure I’m way late to the party, but deciding between House of Cards or Jasper for assa Cartel Chip. I 100% only do M+. Any advice?

[balmy condor]

yeah except this is the opposite

[humble verge]

he said that the active playerbase is like

100k in total

which is not true

[balmy condor]

do you have a signet

[humble verge]

and that after like 12am, theres only 1000 people online which aint true either

[runic hinge]

Next season fatebound in m+ surely

[thin portal]

Whispyr

[leaden root]

I have priory, but not the trink from FG yet

[balmy condor]

okay well if you have priory you definitely do not take house of cards

[humble verge]

ive told my guild if assa goes dog

[winged sun]

i hope not, that thing is bugged as hell isnt it

[humble verge]

ill switch

[balmy condor]

so jastor it is!

[thin portal]

Did u see that early morning post they think fatal is broken

[viscid spear]

[humble verge]

they have meme'd me the entire raid tier to go sub

but i just havent

[runic hinge]

Not for assa I don’t think

[winged sun]

nvm deathstalker is more bugged

o

oh yea maybe

outlaw is only bugged with fate because of AR interaction with coin

making u unable to get lucky coin

forgot how it worked

[waxen oyster]

bleed actually fucks in timewalking

[balmy condor]

OH NO THE 0.2% TALENT THAT WE SAID WAS BROKEN DURING TWW BETA IS BROKEN??????????????????????????????

HOLY SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NO WAY THATS IMPOSSIBLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PING BLIZZARD IMMEDIATELY AAAAAAAAAAAA

[waxen oyster]

idk why but SD just scales really fucky

[runic hinge]

Next season is outlaw season anyways

[winged sun]

i thought u sent a talent string whispyr

[hidden bay]

show vault

[pliant remnant]

sir, this is a wendy's

[winged quail]

Hero Talents are an evergreen feature surely they won’t be left broken for months

[balmy condor]

IMAGINE IF I ACTUALLY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT THAT USELESS TALENT!!!!!!!!!

[leaden root]

Jasper&Siren ring or Jasper & crafted

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-fun-allowed-evil-gif-25554996

[thin portal]

Whispyr we need a wowhead article immediately

[balmy condor]

sim

[pliant remnant]

What the fuck is a JASPER

[humble verge]

jasper + cauldron ring

wait

jasper

jastor

[winged sun]

JASTOR BUT IN SPANISH

[coral ibex]

jasper lmao

[pliant remnant]

[humble verge]

Jasper is a name

[runic hinge]

Jasper my beloved

[scarlet orbit]

A person named Jasper ofc

[humble verge]

[coral ibex]

people dont even know what the items they want are called

xd

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/jasper-gif-16324760118854537516

[balmy condor]

I had a dude in front of a home depot named jasper help me repair my fence

good dude

[humble verge]

was he latin american

[balmy condor]

that is the joke yes

[thin portal]

Wowhead sin bug article incoming?

[humble verge]

i feel like

[thin portal]

[winged quail]

Thank you for doing a writeup on what items to pick Mr Whispyr, but I will not be simming and will be asking you anyway

[humble verge]

Jasper is a common-but-not-so-common latin name

[balmy condor]

sybau dude

[viscid spear]

I know a guy named Luna.

[normal mist]

the most real thing i've seen today

[humble verge]

i have the most generic name ever but you wouldnt be able to guess it

[thin portal]

I'm really happy on sin though, no trolling spree THIS IS THE LIFE

[spice surge]

[pliant remnant]

[jaunty sparrow]

damn vault had apex perforator today, score

[humble verge]

apex predator

[balmy condor]

what is an apex perforator

[viscid spear]

Derek

[humble verge]

like in apex the game

[velvet cairn]

blue dagger right

[balmy condor]

BLUE?

[velvet cairn]

haste crit i think

[jaunty sparrow]

crit/mastery dagger

[wooden timber]

do u think its stupid to take rik neck if i plan to dinar myth hoc no matter what since i also play sub

[humble verge]

the dagger from mechagon

[pliant remnant]

it's blue

[balmy condor]

is bro taking transmog from vault

what

[pliant remnant]

da ba di da ba die

[wooden timber]

the signet is bigger gain for now by a big margin but i am thinking long term

[humble verge]

this one u dog

[viscid spear]

BA DA BEE BA DA DA

[winged quail]

If I don’t see a mythic dagger in vault tomorrow I’m crashing out and sending a dinar on it I swear to god

[balmy condor]

oh

[velvet cairn]

its the bis according to some guy on wowhead

[dusky valve]

any plater geniuses in here?

[velvet cairn]

i told u blue dagger

[humble verge]

just use jundies

[balmy condor]

is this a "I take crit/mast dagger from vault cause crit/mast better" moment

[winged sun]

AAAAAAAAA wdym pick neck why

[jaunty sparrow]

idk about bis or not but it's +3 ilvls on my main weapon and my other item choice was something I already had so

I'll take it

[wooden timber]

good for raid build

[balmy condor]

what is a genius in this case

[dusky valve]

does it show bomb nameplates on mug'zee?

[wooden timber]

i will be able to get deterministic hoc myth track item very shortly

[buoyant herald]

i dunno but im pretty good at typing /plater

[wooden timber]

and hoc / signet are equivalent no?

[humble verge]

yes

[winged sun]

idk man just use a crafted item and add haste to it

[buoyant herald]

after that its a shambles

[winged sun]

no?

[humble verge]

im pretty sure

it does

[wooden timber]

its like .5% gain over my crafted neck rn

[balmy condor]

I mean realistically just go ask plater discord for answer to your question no

[humble verge]

but why would you need the plater for the bombs???

[winged sun]

idk

[dusky valve]

true

[velvet cairn]

think cards is a bit better but basically yea

[humble verge]

wati 2sec

[viscid spear]

[thin portal]

yap mode enabled

[humble verge]

i cna check my mugzee kill on warcraftrecorder

if they ar ethere

[dusky valve]

nameplate with my plater profile isn't showing the bombs and it's becoming a problem for me

[pliant remnant]

They are

there

[winged sun]

careful ryu, you shouldn't post extremely cooked builds here

[humble verge]

they are

with jundies atleast

[jaunty sparrow]

check through the various plater options and see what you have turned off, and try turning them on

[velvet cairn]

think its something with neutral or somethin, ask ur raid leader for help

[thin portal]

Sin actually has different builds cuz outlaw didn't

[pliant remnant]

bro is face_vomiting at jundies while using a profile that doesn't show them

smh my head

[thin portal]

I'm try to learn bleed, cleave and single target

What is the zeross build?

[balmy condor]

cleave on wowhead is zeross build

[thin portal]

I see

[velvet cairn]

he plays hybrid mostly, maybe some small zero cook

[humble verge]

man

[pliant remnant]

why is it not called "zeross build" on wowhead?

[humble verge]

feels sad that on our mugzee kill

[pliant remnant]

[balmy condor]

thats not even true lmao

[humble verge]

like 2 wipes before our monk had to go for work

[winged sun]

no bro

its bad

please

ryukage

[humble verge]

and then our officer hunter joins in

[winged sun]

out of EVERYONE

[balmy condor]

I mean it's kinda hybrid

[humble verge]

and just gets a free kill

[winged sun]

in the game

[humble verge]

kekw

[winged sun]

i dont recommend you to play it

[balmy condor]

but it doesn't take imp gar

[winged sun]

especially you

[balmy condor]