assassination

[rotund oak]

nothing to add there

[golden loom]

I won't use it and I dont care about it so I cant hate it

[sacred schooner]

later you just dont need it since "you know better"

[oak tangle]

while you learn how to play a new spec wrong*

[sacred schooner]

its exactly same rotation imho

[rotund oak]

how exacly ''you know better''

[oak tangle]

what rotation exists in sin?

[lucid basalt]

Assa nerfs sub buffs or me

[oak tangle]

we spin plates

[sacred schooner]

aoe in hekili is not that good for example, only st is good as for me

like it doest take in account that mobs wil die fast etc

[subtle tundra]

please please please please buff sub i beggggggg

i beg

please

pLEASE

[pliant remnant]

no

[cedar iron]

It's not for learning a class? It's the same as colorblind mode. Why care about it. If it does "too much" dmg for your liking get better its not good

[rotund oak]

im not trying to be dogmatic but hekili needs to be a bannable offense,all the democratic vibes n stuff included

[red schooner]

One button is gonna help my guilds drunken social raid at least. Reach a certain level of plastered, turn on one button.

[wise plume]

just do that ret macro at that point

[lucid basalt]

One button will not help anyone u can trust me on that one it will make everything worse.

[rotund oak]

u just end every interaction and learning process

[balmy condor]

I struggle to trust you on anything tbh

[bronze pike]

like high key

[balmy condor]

one button is fine for accessiblity and timewalking/lfr andys

[bronze pike]

thats the only issue i have with outlaw rn

[pliant remnant]

Lashga: One button will not help anyone u can trust me on that one just trust me bro
People with disabilities:

[bronze pike]

other than that, its poggers

[balmy condor]

it's gonna be fine

[vestal cliff]

no need for one button, just shred

[oak tangle]

we have social members in our guild that don't do tank damage, i am excited for one button for them

[iron carbon]

You looks salty my friend

[lucid basalt]

Isnt assa already 1 button ? 🙂

J/k

[rotund oak]

prolly sub has less buttons than assa btw

[strange tundra]

Assa is a 2 minute burst spec

[golden loom]

Mugzee fun boss btw

[pliant remnant]

Thank you ChatGPT

[red schooner]

Same, big DPS boost for some of them

Like our 14 average heroic log enhance shammy. Dudes gonna be blasting

[red schooner]

He's very slowly improving at least but yeah, the tanks beat him a lot of the time

[lucid basalt]

Ask him whos the best subtlety in the world rn

[vestal cliff]

a fun RNG based playstyle

very fun indeed

[iron carbon]

GPT forgot about the KS part

[strange tundra]

😂

[sharp viper]

doesn't that apply to our current tier sets as well?

[vestal cliff]

not ideal XXDDD

[subtle tundra]

ask deepseek now...

[vestal cliff]

hell yeah

[pliant remnant]

steady single-target DPS

[vestal cliff]

gamba goes brrr

[strange tundra]

Kb build

[vestal cliff]

wait for the fatebound buffs and WE GAMBLING

[lucid basalt]

Hardmode

Playing the game on hardmode

[subtle tundra]

bro competing against noone

[sharp viper]

and beating all of em!

[subtle tundra]

also noone asked

[lucid basalt]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[iron carbon]

Weird flex

[strange tundra]

@lucid basalt sorry buddy seems like you're not it

🤣

[subtle tundra]

he came to our channel to flex 3.5k

LOL

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/rejected-stamp-gif-12255531

[lucid basalt]

No

[strange tundra]

3.5k flex in season 2 as well

[subtle tundra]

thats ok lil' guy

[quasi hill]

Morning folks, anyone up for a m+ log review?

I felt underperforming and especially weak on Boss damage. Maybe someone can give me a direction.

Cinderbrew: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xLcRDQfqZYVJKPdk?fight=1&type=healing

Mechagon:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xLcRDQfqZYVJKPdk?fight=8&type=summary

[lucid basalt]

No flex buddy i already said assa is way better on evetyhing

Assa is way way better for every dungeon

Ever scenario

[subtle tundra]

ok then play it, youve been griefing your team for some time now

[iron carbon]

Varas is wild

[gloomy heart]

Buff mage 2025 (tomorrow please)

[lucid basalt]

Its just not fun

[golden loom]

Monday Varas

[vestal cliff]

the man is just brutal

love it

[strange tundra]

Varas for mod

[iron carbon]

I would vote yes

[strange tundra]

Same

Putting kids in their place

[sharp viper]

discord servers do not operate on democracy tho

[bronze pike]

if you find sub fun thats fine

[strange tundra]

Forced democracy

[lucid basalt]

Even on top and ws i think assa still better. I would say maybe rookery subtlety can be ahead if they fix
Clones on. 1 st boss but even than u can swap to sub after 2nd boss

[gloomy heart]

Cope

[strange tundra]

On rookery you play kb

[lucid basalt]

Sub is really good 3 phasing lasy boss

U have 1:30 for every damage phase

[bronze pike]

check out the big bang

I CALL THIS

THE GREENNOISE

[rotund oak]

democracy is by default accepted as the ''will of the many'' cannot be really forced,its accepted 😛

[strange tundra]

Forced "democracy"

Fixed it

[sharp viper]

killed him yesterday, felt good

[oak tangle]

there are a few countries that would disagree with this

[strange tundra]

North Korea

[sharp viper]

best korea

[gloomy heart]

BOMBOCLAAAAT

[oak tangle]

i would not say that NK is a forced democracy

[strange tundra]

Rassclat

[bronze pike]

im doing last second alt ones

i usually stop on this guy

[strange tundra]

It's forced "democracy"

[bronze pike]

kinda noob

[sharp viper]

I feel you, for some pugs it's too much coordination

[bronze pike]

but i just recently learned that stack debuff is the reason why party pack kinda fucks me over

so now, i dont need to layer defensives

[lucid basalt]

I saw some people playing no kb build but last time i speak to zeros told me to play kb every dungeon

[bronze pike]

ya no kb is like reserved for peak dungeons

or something

[oak tangle]

que

[golden loom]

!cleave

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[subtle tundra]

then do that, he is the only assa player

reroll dk

[gloomy heart]

!firemageglizz

[strange tundra]

Zeross build mentioned

[oak tangle]

does zeross = zerocool?

[subtle tundra]

no but just as annoying

[gloomy heart]

no

zeross

is zeross

[strange tundra]

They are siblings

[lucid basalt]

Do u ever press garrote in aoe in that build ?

[oak tangle]

are they about as different as all the builds last season?

[strange tundra]

In main target

[gloomy heart]

i have three fingers

[rotund oak]

when it comes to assa ild trust whispyr more than anyone 😉

[strange tundra]

Tag him

[subtle tundra]

i have 3 iq

[oak tangle]

why trust theorycraft, when you can trust feelcraft

[red schooner]

Real

[gloomy heart]

that’s 2 more iq more than i have

[strange tundra]

I have 5

[oak tangle]

source: justtrustmebro

[rotund oak]

whom?the german purple guy?no thx im not gonna force my nuking 😂

[strange tundra]

No balls

[oak tangle]

germanwhatnow

[vestal cliff]

you forgot cute

[strange tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821808130308571137.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[rotund oak]

big hairy ones,just using my brain first 😉

[rotund oak]

its all in the hair

[oak tangle]

i thought whispyr measures apm in freedom units

[strange tundra]

That 10 iq putting in work

[vestal cliff]

flüstyr ist der beste

[strange tundra]

Lashga is typing pay attention

[oak tangle]

👀

[gloomy heart]

Cope inc

[strange tundra]

He stopped

[gloomy heart]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[red schooner]

Do I keep paying attention anyway?

[oak tangle]

why is that gif such high fps

[strange tundra]

Yes

[red schooner]

I need guidance I don't do well when left to my own devices

Okay Ty

[strange tundra]

Keep me posted

[lucid basalt]

On assa st when i consume this ds buff i get this fok proc when do i use it ?

[red schooner]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[strange tundra]

Yes

[gloomy heart]

No

[red schooner]

Maybe

I don't know

[oak tangle]

i can tell you when not to use it

at full cp

[lucid basalt]

Based

[red schooner]

But ye fok command should answer it

[golden loom]

in M+ you do use it, and in raid you can use it during lingering darkness (neutral dps to just mutilating) or if it hits more than 1 target

[red schooner]

Idk I'm too sleepy to remember the exact conditions, I let moroes do the thinking for me

[strange tundra]

Bro just read the wowhead guide

[golden loom]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[subtle tundra]

holy shit, double mine

[oak tangle]

does anyone else look at their youtube history, and realise how much of their life is wasted watching useless shit

[lucid basalt]

Assa side is so toxic im trying learn spec

[sharp viper]

no, I embrace it

[strange tundra]

Read the wowhead

[lucid basalt]

Is that how u welcome people

Im banned

In wowhead

Cannot open it in my country

[strange tundra]

Vpn

[golden loom]

just ask questions and ignore the dumbasses

[strange tundra]

Don't call me names

[oak tangle]

where are you from that wowhead is abnned

but discord isnt

dafuq

[gloomy heart]

No

[subtle tundra]

fuck you?

[lucid basalt]

Cyprus

Not working

[golden loom]

yes please

[strange tundra]

How are u banned in Cyprus wtf millas ellinika?

[subtle tundra]

owo uwu

[gloomy heart]

Just open wowhead

5head

[sharp viper]

joins assa channel
yaps about sub
flexes his sub score

why is assa so unwelcoming and toxic

[gloomy heart]

Owned

[rotund oak]

totally

[pliant remnant]

What's there to learn, you said it's 1 button like twice hehe ecks dee

[gloomy heart]

Only player playing sub= flex io

[oak tangle]

to answer the question RE why we are toxic, we aren't we jsut shit talk, cause we had to live years of being the offtopic 2.0 channel

[sharp viper]

[vestal cliff]

what are these discord tags

[strange tundra]

Why are we toxic: poisons

[vestal cliff]

and why isnt there a rogue tag yet xD

[lucid basalt]

Ok i use vpn to check guides ty for helping

[subtle tundra]

the "bruh"?

[oak tangle]

based

[vestal cliff]

ye

[lucid basalt]

I did not ment to flex anything

[subtle tundra]

idk how a server gets it

[sharp viper]

we still are the better off-topic

take pride in what we do

[gloomy heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055683073506816020/1284224702201593929/pewpew.gif

[rotund oak]

tourkokyprios einai

[subtle tundra]

i just joined a server who had this tag available and i agreed to have it

[sharp viper]

[vestal cliff]

its sick

[gloomy heart]

I did not ment to help you

[oak tangle]

this gif is levelling up every time

[vestal cliff]

maybe we can get a sick rogue tag on here aswell

[golden loom]

the wizard cat goes hard

[sharp viper]

best they can do is "rouge"

[subtle tundra]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOP

[gloomy heart]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-wizard-wizard-cat-cat-gun-gun-cat-wizard-gif-821142718141522645

[sharp viper]

so french speakers think you are red

[vestal cliff]

XDD

[gloomy heart]

OUR NEW POPE!!

[strange tundra]

Ithela na grapsw tourkosporos alla lew gama to 😭 💀

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/язычество-славяне-вперед-сс-маги-gif-977227459828673609

[rotund oak]

irrelevant question but u r swedish aight?

[subtle tundra]

ok server tags are 4 characters max.. rogue is erm

more?

[vestal cliff]

damn

[gloomy heart]

skrt skrt im a mage in disguise

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-funny-cat-meme-tweaking-gif-1135020915071455925

[oak tangle]

rowg

[gloomy heart]

mage cord deadge

so i am in here

meowing it up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288544340246921256/1305702197589442630/burn.gif

[oak tangle]

i'm here cause bleed build

finally a patch that isn't all about kb

[sharp viper]

no

[rotund oak]

my memory getting worse

ill ask my ravencrest birdies

again

[oak tangle]

bruh dont @ me about memory pls

[strange tundra]

64gb memory

[gloomy heart]

i am fire mage everyone hates me bc im not arcane

[sharp viper]

@oak tanglejust download more RAM

[gloomy heart]

https://tenor.com/view/my-chungus-life-stupid-chungus-life-gif-4016871938526065920

[rotund oak]

😅

[oak tangle]

i take my tablets, and within 5 minutes i forget if i took them

[strange tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1221525941025505366/1227290716342845522/attachment.gif

[oak tangle]

either these adhd meds aint workin

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/xinging-xinging-monkey-monkey-monkey-speech-xinging-speech-bubble-gif-17417339258175886022

[gloomy heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079216682138079232/1141166894745923645/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[sharp viper]

memory can be trained

[oak tangle]

my memory used to work

[lucid basalt]

What is this ?

[sharp viper]

do you remember when

[midnight mist]

sap roug pls !

[strange tundra]

@midnight mist good morning

[subtle tundra]

god xzaqccr

I will have you punished

[midnight mist]

dont good mornnig me wtf

[subtle tundra]

🪤

[midnight mist]

waht have i done now

[strange tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221525941025505366/1237806494771318834/attachment.gif

[oak tangle]

bonjour?

[subtle tundra]

me

[wise plume]

where is my bleed role

[strange tundra]

I'm.just being friendly

😭

[midnight mist]

hi friendly

[strange tundra]

💔 🥀

[red schooner]

In the pins

[grim jay]

@midnight mist gm baguette

[wise plume]

ur nuts

[lucid basalt]

I still dont get it

[red schooner]

One of us. One of us.

[sharp viper]

@midnight mist good morning

[midnight mist]

bro

why everyone pinging me

i said one word

[vestal cliff]

they love you

[midnight mist]

leave me alone !

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[midnight mist]

i dont even play assa !

shit spec !

[oak tangle]

non

[subtle tundra]

THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE

JUST TO SUFFER

[midnight mist]

It's the shitpost channel wdym

[subtle tundra]

nuh uh

its off-topic

[vestal cliff]

hes here for the feet pics

[lucid basalt]

Almost getting benched on OAB by not playing assa

[subtle tundra]

i wish i was benched on OAB

fuck that boss

[red schooner]

Can't be benched on OAB if your guild is still on sprocket

[midnight mist]

?

[lucid basalt]

Yea we missing boss damage and they want me to play assa today

[golden loom]

RWF can play sub on OAB but 30 ilvls and damage buff and boss nerfs made it unplayable I guess

[midnight mist]

play outlaw

[subtle tundra]

bro missing boss damage on OAB is WILD

[runic hinge]

play bench

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/vanbiz-vanbiztherapper-vanillabizcotti-gif-25907954

[subtle tundra]

wtf

[golden loom]

We did the holding damage strat and held for like 30 seconds 🙂

[nova kelp]

we're doing 3 heal blah blah

[oak tangle]

i'll go play sin for your guild, im 647 ilvl get me in

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-scout-fridge-gif-25777785

[midnight mist]

we are holding boss damage for an entire min rn

[lucid basalt]

We are not serious guild but they really wanna kill this for new system

[midnight mist]

i feel like killing myself

surely this week we change strat

[lucid basalt]

But u guys playing in good guild we are casuals

[strange tundra]

How are u casual bro u are 3.5k sub

[oak tangle]

in which case you swapping to sin isnt the solution

[lucid basalt]

Exactly i said same thing but

Apperently execute phase

[oak tangle]

casual + "gm told me to swap for boss damage" don't make sense

[lucid basalt]

Is important they said

[midnight mist]

low af fr

[oak tangle]

ur gm should spend more time learnign to do more dps, than analysing and telling others to swap

[golden loom]

bro wtf!!!!! I hate holding damage!!!!!!

[hidden bay]

it’s just button smashing. You are easily up there aswell

[strange tundra]

He flexed it

[lucid basalt]

Why holding

Damage ?

[runic hinge]

would you carry me to 3.5k pls and ty!

[lucid basalt]

I dont know just asking

[golden loom]

idk we did the old strat

[midnight mist]

oh you are actually doing it ?

[oak tangle]

i am the best rogue in the world....

in any key im in...

if im the only rogue

[hidden bay]

Griefer

[midnight mist]

[midnight mist]

i could but i wont

also it cost gold cuh

[runic hinge]

ok next time

[lucid basalt]

Please explain why holding

[strange tundra]

Note tip

[lucid basalt]

Damage

[golden loom]

yeah we got our first kill on wednesday, and we started with that strat and didnt wanna change midprog 😦

[midnight mist]

Wait I forgot resilient was a thing

[hidden bay]

Different strategies require different dmg

[midnight mist]

Why am I not boosting keys rn

[hidden bay]

Sucks tho

[gloomy heart]

why aren’t keys boosting you!

[hidden bay]

[red schooner]

Surely tonight we kill sprocket, surely

[strange tundra]

15 to 30k per try

[hidden bay]

Healers always crying “I don’t have cd ready” or just the casual bad overlap

[golden loom]

btw zac, all that holding just for this to be my cooldown sequence during lust

[hidden bay]

Based

[fresh kelp]

hold dmg strat -> straight into no add spawn speed strat

never get to do any damage on this fight!

[midnight mist]

tf are you doing

[lucid basalt]

U hold damage because u dont wanna push boss next phase because of coin order or something ?

[golden loom]

idk I got the beam thingy and tried to live and was scared and just wanted boss to die

and threw up on my keyboard

[fresh kelp]

press cloak and maintain uptime noob!

[gloomy heart]

eating a cold chesburger

[midnight mist]

bro

[hidden bay]

Depending on how fast you are. At 30% he phases into last phase, if you don’t have the dmg to push before next adds then you stop dmg on boss and kill adds first

As example

[golden loom]

cloak was down thats why i was so scared

[lucid basalt]

Thank yoy

[fresh kelp]

it doesn't do that much dmg tbh

[gloomy heart]

just shit yourself and keep going

[midnight mist]

but

the beam

goes from boss

so how do you lose uptime

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-hugs-cuddle-gif-17754615575577561160

[midnight mist]

you cant go far from boss

[lucid basalt]

Did u know in china all the top
M+ players are not raiding they just buy boost

[wise plume]

china #1

[lucid basalt]

I wish blizz split raiding and m+

[strange tundra]

I love China

[golden loom]

idk I ran out with it and then I had to run back around the pylon and whatever, idk I just choked

[gloomy heart]

Random tips from lashga

[golden loom]

but boss died

[strange tundra]

🤣

[oak tangle]

they are though, you dont have to do both, you jsut want to

[lucid basalt]

Why would i need to raid to do high keys

[subtle tundra]

i wish m+ only players and raid only players stopped being whiny bitches and realise they play wow not m+ or raid

[strange tundra]

With th3 new tokens system we will have to

[cedar iron]

you dont

[gloomy heart]

to feel good about parsing

parsing is life

[oak tangle]

still a want, not a have

[strange tundra]

True

We can always wait for vault

[gloomy heart]

parse hard stay hard

[oak tangle]

aint saying it's good

but you dont HAVE to

[strange tundra]

I guess u are right

[midnight mist]

you are washed up at both content noob !

[oak tangle]

just like i dont HAVE to play this game

[midnight mist]

vara

[subtle tundra]

i am RETIRED

[midnight mist]

When are you pushing rava

[subtle tundra]

never again

waste of time game

[midnight mist]

Put it in your name them

All the other retired bozos have it in their name

[lucid basalt]

No mythic raid = no gear / no gear = slow progress / slow progress = already lost to 8 yo
China guy 🙂

[midnight mist]

It should be retired varas not gamer varas

[golden loom]

this also happend during that clown fiesta of a CD sequence!

[subtle tundra]

dont worry you wont beat the chinese even with gear

[midnight mist]

wytf toxic

[subtle tundra]

they play on special client and have no rng

easier keys...

[lucid basalt]

Thats a myth

[midnight mist]

frfr

[cedar iron]

buy raidboost like them or dont compare. the only items youre missing are jester and arguably 1 trinket. people have timed higher keys than you have right now with less gear

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-laughing-rage-bait-gif-8366393814504091925

[gloomy heart]

It’s night like this where i sit and eat cheeseburger and sub rog madness

[grim jay]

What trinket tho

[cedar iron]

hes a sub player

[lucid basalt]

Subtlety does not scale well with gear

[grim jay]

No he is about to reroll

[subtle tundra]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH its the gear man 1% dps is all he needed to time that dungeon(17 deaths)

[cedar iron]

ok? then its even less reason to care about raid gear?

[gloomy heart]

for the better good

[midnight mist]

thats good then! you dont even need to raid !

[gloomy heart]

yeah who would give HOC to a rogue anyways!

[subtle tundra]

if he had myth jester he wouldve time 21 top already, so much dps gained

[grim jay]

The Dinar trader

[gloomy heart]

Not if they don’t kill it !

[fresh kelp]

sub does actually scale well with gold to buy carries with i've heard

[sacred schooner]

[golden loom]

who needs gear, just play outlaw and use a 658 dagger as offhand!!

[gloomy heart]

#1 sub #3327 assa

[lucid basalt]

Long story short m+ and raiding should be same as pvp / pve diff category

[midnight mist]

wtf !

[grim jay]

Id rather quit than play that cursed spec

[midnight mist]

toxic !

[fresh kelp]

idk what ur talking about

[cedar iron]

why? you can do either. if youre talking about balance then thats a different topic

[grim jay]

Nah

Will luckily never be the case

[cedar iron]

why do i "have" to do 8 keys a week to raid

[lucid basalt]

Exactly

[cedar iron]

i dont have to thats the point

[grim jay]

Because you have to play pve to play pve

[subtle tundra]

i like you jose mourinho

[grim jay]

As easy as that

[lucid basalt]

We are clean

[midnight mist]

who

i didnt take a shower this morning

[grim jay]

Not you, you are dirty

[midnight mist]

yes i am

[royal lantern]

no we are not

[cedar iron]

thank you fighting panda

[thin portal]

!shivmacro

!shivtea

hmm

[golden loom]

just do 4

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[thin portal]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[midnight mist]

WTF RYU

STOP

[thin portal]

zaco

yo

im sin now

[grim jay]

Or one and get the good items in that slot

[midnight mist]

ye i saw

[royal lantern]

go away

[midnight mist]

who

[royal lantern]

not you

[subtle tundra]

damn we're getting worse by the day

buff outlaw buff sub pLEASE

[cedar iron]

4 is the best

[golden loom]

I did that last season and didnt get skardyns, changed it to 4 per week this tier and got signet -> pacemaker in back 2 back weeks

[lucid basalt]

Why a raider guy needs to do dungeon to get a dungeon bis to use that item to play raid

[midnight mist]

oultaw is mega op rn

[grim jay]

Its joever already

[midnight mist]

lasgha

why are you swapping sin

and not outlaw

outlaw doesnt need jaster !

[lucid basalt]

I dont know how to play outlae

[runic hinge]

Outlaw is super good in this one chart I saw

[grim jay]

Because its fucking pve and to have the best gear you have to play the game

[thin portal]

outlaw is only good right now because of unexpected bug fix.

[cedar iron]

you are missing the point and theres no reason to talk to a wall

[subtle tundra]

why can loser m+ players SPAM dungeons and get full heroic gear?
i, as a raider, struggle to even get normal pieces? barely get any normal and hc and then if i want to do mythic i have to do the hardest content in the game

[grim jay]

Specs ranked by Player age?

[golden loom]

if u want hero track gear, get delving noob!

[gloomy heart]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shooting-gun-nickisfave-gif-14532530827037812375

[lucid basalt]

Outlaw needs highest apm

[royal lantern]

frost mage and ret paladin are 50+

[lucid basalt]

Im too old for that

[subtle tundra]

it should be a separate game mode like pvp is...

[runic hinge]

99% m stix damage

[wise plume]

forgot to add bm hunter in that

[midnight mist]

@subtle tundra look ravas, im coming for you

[thin portal]

outlaw also forces killingspree play so if you dont like it then u have to reroll

[subtle tundra]

want my spot in the guild?

[royal lantern]

bm hunters are just stupid, but not the giga boomers

[cedar iron]

on that note. can we seperate mythic and heroic raiding? why do i have to do splits to progress

[golden loom]

Wow apm is fake anyways just click buttons

[subtle tundra]

nvm we dont take frenchies

[runic hinge]

why can loser m+ players SPAM dungeons and get full heroic gear?
i, as a raider, struggle to even get normal pieces? barely get any normal and hc and then if i want to do mythic i have to do the hardest content in the game

[midnight mist]

no !

[wise plume]

my grandpa plays bm proudly

[grim jay]

They should just split every single boss

[wise plume]

he cant handle more than 3 buttons

[subtle tundra]

yeah man...... i have to raid 3x heroic to do a single mythic!

[lucid basalt]

Does outlaw need higher apm than arms ?

[grim jay]

Sounds like general health issues

[lucid basalt]

Bro outlaw is carpal tunnel syndrome rn

[golden loom]

Fury is probably higher apm than arms

[cedar iron]

its getting even worse we now have to split mythic in the first week(s)

[red schooner]

Every spec needs high APM if you have a compulsive need to spam adadada between every GCD

[grim jay]

General health issues as I said

[royal lantern]

mfs talk about apm as if they could not macro the spam button you press 85% of the time on your mousewheel

[golden loom]

Dont forget jumping

[royal lantern]

[golden loom]

Adadadad and jumping is a dps gain

[runic hinge]

why can loser m+ players SPAM dungeons and get full heroic gear?
i, as a raider, struggle to even get normal pieces? barely get any normal and hc and then if i want to do mythic i have to do the hardest content in the game

[cedar iron]

can i suggest one button rotation to you? helpful tool coming on reset!

[red schooner]

I had to unbind jump on sprocket, kept accidentally hitting space and screwing myself over

[cedar iron]

it even slows your gcd so its less apm

[grim jay]

If anything wow related causes you bodily inconveniences that arent located in your brain, you should work on your health

[golden loom]

I kept jumping on cauldron gorilla and got stunned

[lucid basalt]

Spellque = yourping + 100

[red schooner]

Sprocket I have jump rebound to 7 for my own safety

[lucid basalt]

I belive default is 4000

[red schooner]

Sensible keybinds

[lucid basalt]

400 sorry

Most people play spellque on 400 wich is really bad

[royal lantern]

CTS is a real problem

but like, CTS happens BECAUSE you have shity habbits in the first place and is almost fully preventable lol

[royal lantern]

agree

stu bringing words of wisdom

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/ct-urban-serious-huh-staring-zoom-face-gif-12671678163607497010

[royal lantern]

[oak tangle]

CTS?

[red schooner]

Carpal tunnel

[grim jay]

Ye, nothing as slow as wow should actually harm your body, brain aside, if you arent a wreck in the first place

[royal lantern]

carpal tunnel

[oak tangle]

idk if i had that

[subtle tundra]

fuck i need to have my private parts touched

[runic hinge]

Stu will never get carpal tunnel

[lucid basalt]

Spellque settings = underrated

[oak tangle]

but i deffs had wrist pain for 3 months this year when i tried to wipe my ass

[royal lantern]

you would known

the wrist pain is REALLY bad

[subtle tundra]

w w w ww hat

[oak tangle]

yeah it was pre bad, burning up my forearm

[golden loom]

I mean CTS usually needs surgery

cause it doesnt just go away

[oak tangle]

whatever claw movement my hand did when i either, 1) wiped my ass or 2) put my hands inside a potato chip bag (not necessarily at the same time)

[subtle tundra]

weird habit you have

[oak tangle]

yeah i don't think it was CTS, but also the burning up the forearm is apparently a symptom

[grim jay]

That would hopefully be on two different hands if its at the same time

[oak tangle]

more than likely it was tendonitis

[thin portal]

ooooo

one thing to note guys

since bleeds are melee i guess you also have to be facing the target to mouseover

[golden loom]

I thankfully started streching my hands and such pretty early on cause league is decently stressing on mousehand

[royal lantern]

??????? ofc ????????

[grim jay]

Just play without mouseover like a chad

[thin portal]

why its so easy to mouseover

[royal lantern]

melee abilitys need you to face the enemy, yes

[thin portal]

we just have to face them thats all

[oak tangle]

you mean as a melee player you don't constantly have RMB held down?

[grim jay]

Can play some bdo and you wont have difficulties in other games anymore.

[golden loom]

Oh also my runescape gaming has done wonders ofc

[grim jay]

Bcs you can either just not swap at all or tab aswell

[thin portal]

blizzard tab can kiss my nuts

mouseover instead of tab the target furthest away

[royal lantern]

it doesnt do that but ok

[thin portal]

I have video proof

many videos

it targets the farthest one

[royal lantern]

tab target has 2 prioritys lol

a enemy that is casting

if no enemy is Casting, nearby enemy

thats it

[thin portal]

often

[grim jay]

Probably just OL atsm spaming the tab key

[oak tangle]

how do you even mouseover for dots, it makes no sense, if mouseover works anything like trying to click nameplates wtf

[grim jay]

Instead of clicking once

[golden loom]

mouseover nameplate?

idk its not that deep

[thin portal]

im gonna use the demonhunter macro

[oak tangle]

i try click nameplates

it selects the wrong one

[royal lantern]

just dont swap targets

aoe is padding

ethical st dmg only

[hidden bay]

@lucid basalt since you don’t play assa alot, there’s always people here to check logs with you to improve. I do log analyses aswell if you need someone

[thin portal]

this is the macro

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Garrote

[grim jay]

Herp just wants to take your money

Shamelessly

[thin portal]

it will apply on your target and ALSO mouseover

[grim jay]

Smh my head

[thin portal]

mmmm yummy yummy so I dont have to switch target as long as adds are also in melee

[lilac tulip]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

mf discovers mouseover macros and explains them

[thin portal]

i also added the tea/shiv macro

this is nice

[lucid basalt]

Thank you bro

[midnight mist]

Ok but how much io do you havev

[hidden bay]

Almost 3k bro, is that ok?

[midnight mist]

No!

[subtle tundra]

get 3.3k or you get the WHIP

[hidden bay]

Fuck m+ man, I don’t like it

[lucid basalt]

Rerolling outlaw

[subtle tundra]

good

[royal lantern]

bad

[iron carbon]

average

[grim jay]

I mean

Its the right channel for cooked takes

[midnight mist]

No!

[thin portal]

killingspree is a trap

DONT DO IT

[wise plume]

praying for better dungeons next season

[grim jay]

I really liked the dungeons

[hidden bay]

You know when I loved m+?

In legion dude

[grim jay]

Meadery could be mildly annoying

[grim jay]

Same

[gloomy heart]

the dungeons aren’t that bad, just hate TOP bc it’s really boring

[hidden bay]

I’ll prolly stick to legion remix

[wise plume]

floodgate and priory are cool, those are really the only dungeons i enjoy this season

[gloomy heart]

love priory

[wise plume]

cinderbrew annoys the hell out of me

[golden loom]

I havent done above a 13 but i like ToP

fuck rookery

[wise plume]

rook can get bent

[gloomy heart]

rookery isn’t a bad key to me

[lucid basalt]

Subtlety damage increased 10% on all abilities / black powder is now uncapped

Saw it

[gloomy heart]

Keep dreaming

one day

[wise plume]

give me gambit back

[hidden bay]

Dude I had to check wowhead

Holy

[wise plume]

first pull go brrrr

[runic hinge]

This seasons dungeons were much better than last

[gloomy heart]

Yeah getting patch notes at 5 am would be wild

[lucid basalt]

I saw it in my dreams

[wise plume]

for suuure

last season was so ass honestly

[gloomy heart]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[lucid basalt]

China region removed from warcraftlogs and raiderio

Patch notes

[royal lantern]

[grim jay]

Its getting wild. Who tf cares about China on wcl or rio

[lucid basalt]

Im talking about a dream sorry

[royal lantern]

the voices said that i dont need them

[thin portal]

would you say fok is the spammed keybind for sin?

Im gonnna put it where bte was for outlaw

[grim jay]

[thin portal]

im guessing so

since its the main builder in aoe

[strange tundra]

What did I miss

[royal lantern]

ngl, outlaw is a bit weird because it doesnt have the "spamm aoe generator" all other specs have

[thin portal]

and their aoe is still capped after being bug fixed

[grim jay]

Couldve stopped the sentence less than half way

[royal lantern]

they should reduce the cap to 3 targets

[thin portal]

can someone tell me

why shadowstep macro doesnt show stacks

goodthing the wa shows the stacks

[golden loom]

it does?

#showtooltip Shadowstep

[oak tangle]

you got that dank #showtooltip in there?

or did you pick the icon

[thin portal]

oh sec

[golden loom]

why do u have sin icon and revenge on your bars?

[thin portal]

revenge is my blind icon

and sin icon is tea/shiv macro

[oak tangle]

leave your macro icons as the '?' and instead use #showtooltip

mucho bettero

[thin portal]

you guys were right

showtooltip missing

[oak tangle]

that macro is cooked

[midnight mist]

fok is bf ryuk

aoe builder

[oak tangle]

/cast [@mouseover,exists,nodead][] shadowstep

the [] at the end is key so that if you aren't mousing over something, you will still shadowstep

[thin portal]

would shadowstep select targets just using this macro or I need target in there ?

change hook with shadowstep

[oak tangle]

no, because shadowstep isn't a ground target ability

@cursor is a ground target flag

[thin portal]

so it needs a target text

yeah

so mine is good then

[iron carbon]

https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Making_a_macro

[oak tangle]

i would still put the [] like i have

otherwise your macro only works if you have a mouseover

[lucid basalt]

Nvidia reflex or nvidia reflex +’boost ?

[thin portal]

i see

[lucid basalt]

M raw input on or off

[thin portal]

like this

[oak tangle]

yup

[thin portal]

seems fixed now

ty

same one i used for bleeds

[lucid basalt]

Do y guys use shift +’tab ?

[thin portal]

someone suggested it but ive never used it as outlaw. Might use it for sin since deathstalker but not sure

[oak tangle]

wtf is shift + tab

[lucid basalt]

Return u

Old targwt

Target so u dont need to click nameplate

[cunning needle]

i use it

hope this helps

have a nice day

[oak tangle]

i could see a use for it, but just as useful potentially would be focus targets etc

[thin portal]

nice fixed stacks on action bar

[hidden bay]

A macro a day

[cunning needle]

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[lucid basalt]

Keep the doctors away

[subtle tundra]

has different icons for spells
has poisoned knife on bars

you have given me the CANCER

THANKS

[thin portal]

If a player is running away in pvp and shadowstep is down, you dont throw daggers at them?

[subtle tundra]

pvp LOL

LOL! ! ! ! !

[thin portal]

its not used in pve sure

[subtle tundra]

so its never used

[thin portal]

anyways

im done with macros now

need to practice

[golden loom]

for transmog content its used 🙂

[west smelt]

Surely using knife is better than capping energy if you're away from the boss doing a mechanic

[golden loom]

well how often does that happen and no

[radiant snow]

just wondering do we still send a FoK when a clear the witnesses procs?

[subtle tundra]

im also used

[golden loom]

but yeah maybe on rik reverb intermission 😎

[radiant snow]

or is it just not a thing anymore since i cant see it in any rotational openers

[golden loom]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[subtle tundra]

having the option to pk is usually worse than not having it
human nature will make you press it

cause well its a ranged ability and youre in range

but its so so so bad

[golden loom]

well now that just sounds like a get good situation!

[subtle tundra]

if youre in range for long enough to full regen energy and some then yeah but then you have bigger problems than optimzing pk usage

[west smelt]

The ranged players in my group don't really like doing mechanics, I'll often run around and clean up just to get the kill

[subtle tundra]

well fuck em

[golden loom]

well ur poisoned knife wont help with ranged dps I can promise you that

[west smelt]

That's cutting your nose off to spite your face

I want to actually beat the fights, not teach people a lesson

[subtle tundra]

fair.... il shellfish

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-shellfish-pun-crab-clampicated-gif-26205880

[cunning needle]

incorrect

it's not about whether you win or lose

but how much you make the other person lose

also unless youre away from the boss for 8 seconds

no

[thin portal]

is that normal

it says go haste mast now

[golden loom]

all stats good

[red schooner]

Didn't you ask about stats yesterday, and we said all stats good

And now this

[cunning needle]

but what about vers, wowhead says vers is the worst stat for assi

[red schooner]

Why are you like this

Please

[thin portal]

yeah i know im just sharing that im sim other stats now

[cunning needle]

[red schooner]

Zeross stacks Vers so Vers good

[cunning needle]

oh okay thank you for this info

have a nice day

[red schooner]

Ye nw

u 2

[thin portal]

crit/mast vs haste/mast vs crit/haste

simming now

[cunning needle]

dont forget haste/vers

[thin portal]

not enough room

next sim

sucks i cant sim it all together

[cunning needle]

pay for it

[thin portal]

i have to sim whatever wins then add the haste vers

[red schooner]

Make sure to SIM it with speed tertiaries in case of boss movement

[thin portal]

everyone type /played right now

[red schooner]

Need to know when you swap from speed to avoidance

[thin portal]

tww was 27 days as outlaw

that was such a nightmare with killingspree

[red schooner]

22 days spent waiting for a res

[thin portal]

pretty much

[red schooner]

And people say that sin has high downtime

[thin portal]

I have to get used to running slow and shadowstep now tho

[bold lintel]

Is there any major reason not to play improved garrote and master assasin in favor of vicious venoms, garrote seems to sim higher but everyone plays upgraded mutilate

[golden loom]

MA is only really an option for sprocket cause it might sim higher in ST

but VV is higher cleave

also better execute so for stuff like Mugzee its better

[bold lintel]

thanks

[sacred schooner]

holy shit

[thin portal]

[sacred schooner]

2250 days

[radiant raven]

I will never log off

[thin portal]

classic player detected

[radiant raven]

Nah, it's way more cursed than that

I started in Cata

[thin portal]

Gathering bot detected

[thin portal]

[red schooner]

[thin portal]

new rogue detected

[golden loom]

started retail in september

and wow in general in january 2024

[thin portal]

interesting

there is a perk to being sin right

we actually get invited to keys?

outlaw gets declines mostly

I cant wait to get invited thats exciting if so

[subtle tundra]

damn i have bad news

youre still a rogue

[red schooner]

shit

[midnight mist]

I get insta invited to everything now that outlaw does damage

Ryuk

Time to reroll outlaw

[lyric kelp]

was that bladeflurry shit fixed?

[subtle tundra]

gooooooooooood

gooooooooo awaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778538305779269682/1370165617738518669/ezgif-2e99328e891cf1.gif

[midnight mist]

ye

[red schooner]

Ye outlaw is fine now there's no need to reroll sin

(have they left yet?)

[thin portal]

THERES STILL KILLINGSPREE

im not doing that

id rather not play wow than use ks one more time

[novel star]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[novel star]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[worn geyser]

bro in brew when ur group sends the hopgoblin out of spatter range do yall chase or do u just caustic the next closest add and continue envenom spam and say fuck the dsm till it comes back

[loud hearth]

Charge them into the bit of the wall that sticks out so they don't charge away

[worn geyser]

well ideally but ye others are not in my control tho

[loud hearth]

If they do charge away, idk cos I would also like to know what to do in that situation

[novel star]

probably just mutilate someone else and be sad about it

[worn geyser]

im one more hopgoblin across the room due to afk ranged player away from just sending the deathmark on a fucking scientist or some shit

[grim jay]

Yep

[worn geyser]

[thin portal]

when i was outlaw i like to kill casters first

so i will prob do the same as sin

[midnight mist]

gl

Bro about to send dm on a random caster and one shot it in 2 gcds

[wise plume]

😭

[worn geyser]

one less kick for ur group to miss ez

[wise plume]

i wait to dm on second big pull if there's an uhdk in my group

otherwise its just wasted

[red schooner]

I bribe a priest or evoker to pull the blood beast out of the pack

[worn geyser]

does anyone know the cd of that ability, can u like wait for it to charge once, then send the dm on that mf

[thin portal]

general rules for aoe

fok fok finisher fok finisher hmmmm

[worn geyser]

also on the topic of brew fuck those little drops my pug tanks are always too nice and waste so much time trying to let me get a restealth

[subtle tundra]

penis

[thin portal]

whats the rule for bleeds reapplying

if I do a max cp rupture, it will stay max cp as long as I keep it active right?

[worn geyser]

afaik no

[worn geyser]

but pandemic will give u a lil bit more duration so when u clip it its not just wasting the last 7s

[thin portal]

oh yeah sin terminology

clip is if I reapply too early right

[subtle tundra]

this is not sin terminology
its wow terminology
every spec has pandemic

[thin portal]

or

[worn geyser]

clip just when u overwrite early

[thin portal]

Theres a window to clip each bleed

I mean we try not to clip and reapply during the window

[worn geyser]

yeah 7 seconds and below that duration / dam gets added to end of the new bleed u apply

oh

for improved garrote u dont want to clip it

[thin portal]

so if more than 7 seconds is getting clipped

[worn geyser]

rupture doesnt matter tho

[wise plume]

LMAO

[thin portal]

below 7 seconds is the window to reapply

[final star]

it's 30% of the duration you're applying

[midnight mist]

even roll the bones pandemic

[midnight mist]

oh hi fellow gooner

how is it gooning

[final star]

so you get, at most, 130% duration

[final star]

[strange tundra]

@subtle tundra what did I miss

[subtle tundra]

idk im shitposting

or just shitting

depends...

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-banana-gif-23743798

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-banana-gif-23743798

[final star]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-tuna-letteris-g-gif-25640688

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-tuna-letteris-g-gif-25640688

[wise plume]

https://tenor.com/view/spoingus-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-21178537

[worn geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-tuna-letteris-g-gif-25640688

[subtle tundra]

this guy just transformed a banana into a tuna?!?!

[wise plume]

ban him

rn

[thin portal]

https://tenor.com/view/jingle-all-the-way-put-that-cookie-down-now-arnold-gif-15699014

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/peepohappy-send-it-down-burrito-gif-19375451

[humble verge]

he at the burrito

[wise plume]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-not-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-17095937417146339596

[strange tundra]

Excuse me ?

[wise plume]

sorry, typo

[strange tundra]

@lucid basalt thoughts??

[thin portal]

what are some bugs on sin right now?

I come from outlaw and theres always something. Am i free from that kind of thing?

[subtle tundra]

erm cockroaches

[strange tundra]

The lingering darkness getting removed for no reason

[cunning needle]

envenom also randomly drops on mugzee

[midnight mist]

you cant vanish with ma up

[thin portal]

hmm

ma?

[midnight mist]

my ass

gottem

[thin portal]

i see i see

[solar wyvern]

Deathstalkers mark can not give you darkest night if you kill something with it

Thats a fun one to have happen in a pull without vanish up

[strange tundra]

You can but it doesn't refresh it

[strange tundra]

Can I hit that

😋

[thin portal]

im still reading the talent nodes too

darkest night is where

hero talent

got it

[strange tundra]

Deathstalker

[thin portal]

yeah

[strange tundra]

Whispyr wrote a good article about rogue bugs etc

Worth a read

[thin portal]

and only ambush reapplies it

[wide gorge]

just happened to me on TOP first boss

[midnight mist]

from stealth !

[golden loom]

Nah thats just that boss

Wont get mark back ever when they die

[wide gorge]

thats so lame

[golden loom]

So need to swap it between manually

Before one dies

[royal lantern]

cus they dont die, they are at 1hp

[thin portal]

so if our priority dies with DSM we will never get Darkest Night

[royal lantern]

very fun

[midnight mist]

i didnt even know that

[strange tundra]

Indie devs makes sense

[midnight mist]

do they stay there or

[golden loom]

No u get darkest night when a marked target dies

[midnight mist]

i never noticed

[thin portal]

oh ok

[golden loom]

But in some cringe cases like top first boss they dont "die"

So then you dont

[royal lantern]

they get down at 1hp and lie on the ground with the normal death animation, and go down to 0hp and really "die" when the fight is over

🙂

[thin portal]

do we have to reach max cp after we get darkest night like it says?

[golden loom]

Yes

[thin portal]

ok i see

[midnight mist]

so am i cleaving them still or not

[royal lantern]

nope

[midnight mist]

how are you certain

[golden loom]

Can probably test with CT

[midnight mist]

Did you know that you can cleave the bombs on ml first boss

[golden loom]

If it counts as hitting a extra target

[thin portal]

i wonder if devlins wa shows darkest night

Thats what I have

[normal mist]

Most likely it does