assassination

[lyric gate]

need to google that shit

french game icant

[rotund oak]

🥖

[lyric gate]

oui oui misseu

[strange tundra]

i need more bullets

[lyric gate]

gamedev prolly play brewmastertank on hyjal

[indigo mulch]

Expedition 33 is a master piece D:

Anyone saying anything else needs to be brought behind the barn with grandfathers shotgun.

[lyric gate]

diablo 4 also is a masterpiece

never played it

[indigo mulch]

Fight me right now after saying those words.

RIGHT NOW

[red schooner]

I'd play more but occasionally the game decides to emotionally ruin me and I need time to stare into the void.

[indigo mulch]

[thin portal]

sim is telling me to go crit mast, but someone earlier said go haste vers. What is it?

[coral ibex]

who said go haste vers

[lyric gate]

i did say that

[strange tundra]

whatever the sim says

[thin portal]

i didnt sim haste vers

[lyric gate]

HAHAH

[indigo mulch]

You follow your sim o_O

[lyric gate]

that was me

[rotund oak]

[red schooner]

Just follow the SIM?

[lyric gate]

GOTTEM

[red schooner]

The fuck

[thin portal]

I have to sim haste vers tho

compare dmg i guess

[strange tundra]

for me haste vers sims better than everything else

[lyric gate]

hahahaha

[rotund oak]

bro's a menace

[indigo mulch]

Same, but when your at that point your pretty geared. :C

[thin portal]

alright ill sim haste vers now

[strange tundra]

how do we know he isnt?

[lyric gate]

maybe he find new tech who knows

[strange tundra]

just go haste vers dont bother with sims takes like 5 mins

waste of time

[lyric gate]

i will start 25 sims right now

to extend your queue

[strange tundra]

make an autohotkey

that does that

everytime he tries to sim

[indigo mulch]

He's a gigachad and sims local.

Ez

skips queue.

[rotund oak]

[lyric gate]

he sims with pencil

and calculator

[balmy condor]

first rule of assa is you sim everything, second rule is ignore anything this churki guy says

[indigo mulch]

LOL

[radiant raven]

[lyric gate]

i saw whispyr was typing at the bottom

i knew its gonna be me

[proud pelican]

But his name is NotChurki so we can trust him right?

[rotund oak]

he's inches away from pressing the red button,we become all ashes,part of a nuclear winter

[thin portal]

[balmy condor]

one of these days im gonna be typing at the bottom and it's gonna be a mute

it's like russian roulette

[indigo mulch]

[thin portal]

yeah well i dont pay raidbots so sims is very small

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[indigo mulch]

its dinars next week right? 😮

[golden loom]

chat seems extra stupid today

[balmy condor]

yeah just do a couple small ones instead, should be fine

[thin portal]

im simming haste vers and crit mast now

[balmy condor]

like do a sim with 4-5 recrafts

and then another one with 4-5 different recrafts

should work fine

[thin portal]

yeah

[balmy condor]

ye

[strange tundra]

how much dps increase

like 2%?

[balmy condor]

I wonder if guide is updated already or if they do that tomorrow

how much dps increase from what

[thin portal]

whats different in the guide? im looking at it now.

[strange tundra]

that bfa or df enchants

or whatever those are

[indigo mulch]

Eyy, i wonder how flooded the channel will be with "Should i buy Cards or Priory/Seaforium?" next tuesday/wed.

[buoyant herald]

yes

[balmy condor]

we're adding corruptions and dinars across a bunch of pages but idk if the new versions have rolled over yet

[lyric gate]

is it true that pooling energy for bane is only 0.3 % increase ?

[balmy condor]

pins

[balmy condor]

yes

[lyric gate]

thats crazy

[thin portal]

oh ok but all the talents and stuff are the same

[strange tundra]

ill check in a bit ty

[balmy condor]

yes

nothing changes

[thin portal]

k cool

[balmy condor]

there's just a more fleshed out dinar thing and then explaining what corruption and all that

rest is identical

[lyric gate]

you miss the guy yesterday that said fatebound sims higher then deathstalker whyspr

[thin portal]

[balmy condor]

it does

[earnest remnant]

[balmy condor]

what did he say about it

[rotund oak]

[lyric gate]

just that it sims higher but his comparision specc was shit

[balmy condor]

ok

[indigo mulch]

I wish i could get myself to play fatebound.

I just can't.

[balmy condor]

and that's it?

[lyric gate]

y

[golden loom]

why would you want to

[balmy condor]

sims higher for me too

[lyric gate]

now i play poisoned knife fatebound

[balmy condor]

most people sim higher with fateobund

[lyric gate]

new build

[indigo mulch]

To be different!

My logs area so shit anyway, can't get much worse :C

[lyric gate]

well i tried to play it

on bandit mythic

because they were crying about my add damage

[red schooner]

[golden loom]

so u picked the worst possible add damage build?

[balmy condor]

I assume he's just being a shithead and baiting again

[lyric gate]

well i did way more on adds

[balmy condor]

cause that's seemingly all he's capable of

[lyric gate]

with fatebound

no im not trolling

just cba to transfer mark to them

[thin portal]

alright sim started haste/vers vs crit/mast crafts

[balmy condor]

I mean

sure, if you swap to adds fatebound probably does more

[lyric gate]

y thats what i did

[indigo mulch]

Imma be honest, i don't care about the adds. We have so many classes multi dotting i just zug zug the boss.

[balmy condor]

but you also do like 10% less overall

[lyric gate]

y

more

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

just from playing fatebound

so kinda L

[lyric gate]

i wasnt trolling !

legit take

[balmy condor]

fatebound is good on specifically single target, nothing else

unplayable on adds

[lyric gate]

y i just hardswapped to them

[golden loom]

was this after 10% hp nerf?

[lyric gate]

but after 2 trys i went back deathstalker pulled up top logs

[balmy condor]

ye honestly just ask to get benched if your raid lead asks you to swap to adds

[lyric gate]

no way

[golden loom]

no ask to bench the other dps cause wtf are they doing

[balmy condor]

I mean assa can't target swap

[glacial relic]

floodgate first boss juicer envenom

[balmy condor]

if your raid lead says to target swap you tell him to eat shit

[indigo mulch]

Big crit.

[grand trail]

or play sub :))

[red schooner]

Are we at the point in the tier where we replace the Rik command with a OAB command

[indigo mulch]

Don't listen to the teal names

[lyric gate]

40 mill is wild

[balmy condor]

one armed richard

[proud pelican]

Cuh my RL was yelling at me when I wasn’t running out of melee to hit barrels on rik

[lyric gate]

remember sec boss nerub

swapping to that shitadd

for ranges

i cant

[red schooner]

Mine initially did but now he's chill

[indigo mulch]

I told my raidleader to bench me if he wants me to constantly hardswap to the adds cause i'll just be a waste of space at that point :3

[lyric gate]

im topping meters

when we reach last phase

[balmy condor]

you go "okay", run out of melee to hit barrels, and then after wipe go "can you check logs was that better? can you tell me if that was better? I just want to know, go check it right now"

[lyric gate]

and boss damag elaso

so np

[loud hearth]

I wonder if new Caustic would've hit that add

[balmy condor]

and then you tell him to eat shit

[balmy condor]

yes

[proud pelican]

I did literally exactly this

No cappuccino

[lyric gate]

dont bother i got 3 grey parses on rik

first 3 week

from 17 to 19

kek

[balmy condor]

thatta boy

[indigo mulch]

I still blue parse on rik cause my brain is incapable of sniping barrels 😦

[proud pelican]

They said I should “swap even if it doesn’t make sense because mechanics is more important than damage”

[loud hearth]

We were robbed then

[lyric gate]

i think you should send after amplifier

[thin portal]

im guessing you would play raid cleave on fights like gally. Pure st raid on sprocket and bleed build in m+ hmmm

[lyric gate]

and prayge for good add spawn

to get a a giga parse

[balmy condor]

I've dm'd peoples raid leaders to tell them directly to stop being a dumbfuck

[thin portal]

so im gonna have to learn how to play each spec

[indigo mulch]

Can you do that for me as well Whispyr?

[balmy condor]

sure

[indigo mulch]

[lyric gate]

i can do that too

but you wiill get benched

after

[bronze pike]

tell that to me

pls

[balmy condor]

I even have a mad-libs style fill in the blank that I have

just for this

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[thin portal]

crit mastery won for m+

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jr9xoPJphTqWHZSkYEVSFM

[balmy condor]

not surprising

[grand trail]

those RL do not care, all they care is adds die fast as possible

there is nothing what can change their mind

[bronze pike]

but theyr edoing it in a dumb way

by making sin do adds

[lyric gate]

bro is tauren rogue

[bronze pike]

instead of literally anything else

[balmy condor]

oh jeez

[grand trail]

all you can do ask if they wanna play you sub and if they say no than you dont care

[thin portal]

[rotund oak]

bit irrelevant but is the ''Sim-Superior'' Fatebound build on the wowhead guide

[indigo mulch]

What i'm i witnessing here? ._.

[bronze pike]

i hsould dust of alchemy and make myself a alchemist stone

it should be better

[balmy condor]

he's stoned

[bronze pike]

i want it to be better

[thin portal]

i have priory but i dont wanna use actives while learning ok ok

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[indigo mulch]

Please don't tell me i have to make an alchemist stone. 😦

[red schooner]

[balmy condor]

I mean it's just macro'd to deathmark

[golden loom]

macro it to deathmark

[thin portal]

orly

[lyric gate]

casual

[bronze pike]

i macro my house of cards to my execution scentence

[grand trail]

assa actually dont need to play on use trinket

[indigo mulch]

bruh

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[thin portal]

oh really hmmm

[balmy condor]

macro tea to shiv

[grand trail]

it super close to play like kezan with pacemaker

[balmy condor]

and then macro deathmark/potion/racial/trinket

and gg

[indigo mulch]

Its okay dinars next week. I'll get myself a house of cards. 😦

[balmy condor]

kezan in m+

[indigo mulch]

[lyric gate]

good for chainpulling

[grand trail]

i though we talkin about raid here

[lyric gate]

ICANT

[thin portal]

ok ok ill make the macro

[balmy condor]

nah he's talking m+

[lyric gate]

dont macro tea in it

i mean potion

[thin portal]

shiv+tea

[balmy condor]

but kezan only really good for last 3

[grand trail]

i play kezan in my weeklys anyway

[red schooner]

Did you craft the alchemist stone just so you didn't have to use priory

[grand trail]

need to show up my mythic kezan pre dinar

[red schooner]

I need to know

[thin portal]

no I just wanted more pot health

[indigo mulch]

Wait, is the priory trinket slightly better in m+? It is right? D:

[lyric gate]

its everywhere better i guess

[grand trail]

kezan is gettin worse with every week

[red schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-spin-fan-rope-gif-25248314

[grand trail]

not cool

[balmy condor]

yeh for all the people that inspect you and go "this dude is playing kezan in m+ aintnoway"

[lyric gate]

what does it have 5 ppm ?

[balmy condor]

you should always run priory or cards in m+

[lyric gate]

so 4 min for max stacks ?

[balmy condor]

3min

10ppm

[lyric gate]

kk

[indigo mulch]

No i know, but i have both.

[thin portal]

sooo im replacing stone with priory

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter then

[grand trail]

it feels pretty random when it stacks

[balmy condor]

yes but also no, cause if your signet doesn't hit mastery it's kinda shit

so uh

back to sims maybe idk

stone is fine

[indigo mulch]

[thin portal]

[grand trail]

i have about even mastery and crit now

[thin portal]

after i recraft to crit/mastery it will be highest stat

[grand trail]

since i dont play circlet anymore

[lyric gate]

youre 800 item level or what

[balmy condor]

yah but by how much

[indigo mulch]

is there a way to sim loot with the extra ilvl for next week? Like droptimizer but +2?

Or do i have to manually do it? ._."

[grand trail]

circlet get beaten by mythic ring and normla yastor

[bronze pike]

why do trinket suck

[grand trail]

atleast for me

[balmy condor]

top gear and just make it a higher ilvl

[thin portal]

this is before recrafting and vers will go down by a lot.

[earnest remnant]

can u dm me that

[bronze pike]

why did they nerf all trinkets for healers and tanks for no reason

[lyric gate]

i did full sim

[balmy condor]

(it's gonna tell you the same shit but higher ilvl)

[lyric gate]

with max item level

is like 140k dps increase

all topped

[bronze pike]

so they have to make boring trinkets so everyone is "equal"

[thin portal]

Mastery will be much higher by a lot

[balmy condor]

ya lemme find it

[bronze pike]

i miss dreadplates

and grieftorch

and beacon

[indigo mulch]

But i'm thinking shouldn't the quest ring be slightly worse if we can get rings up to 684?

[lyric gate]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3sCoT9Zcw1FT2fpemPiKRi

3k dps increase

kek

i dont like it house of cards

[grand trail]

btw we getting another dinar in 3 weeks right

[lyric gate]

priory is 20 sec uptime

[grand trail]

cant bealive i left two pacemakers in vault already 😄

[indigo mulch]

Yup, we get 3 first week, then after 3 weeks we get another 3 from what i understood.

[lyric gate]

i think i buy cloak

from dinar

[thin portal]

what embelish do we use

[grand trail]

thats the spirit

[lyric gate]

ascension + double

[indigo mulch]

Nerub

[thin portal]

i have elemental lens so ill change it

[indigo mulch]

wc D:

[thin portal]

ill change embelish during recraft to crit mast

[glacial relic]

another MA enjoyer

[lyric gate]

what is ma

[glacial relic]

master assassin

[lyric gate]

what would youi play without it

in raid

garrote cps ?

[glacial relic]

Im telling you I like it, thats how I play too

I just hate to play with VV in raid

[lyric gate]

i swear i hate it when ambush doesnt crit

on opener

[glacial relic]

yeah then it fucks up the timing

[lyric gate]

y

how do you open

i saw raidbot open with one garrote only

so you have 6-7 sec earlier vanish might be good

having master assasin for end burst

[glacial relic]

I do one garrote y

[lyric gate]

actually way better

[strange tundra]

so gear next reset will be 685?

[lyric gate]

how is bro doing ambush at 4 sec

robot is cheating

[worn geyser]

in the single target opener does it not matter that thistle tea overcaps ur energy when u use the shiv macro if you have lust on pull; is it basically still a gain because of the mastery the tea gives you?

[lyric gate]

y

[golden loom]

blindside proc

[balmy condor]

bro the sim is getting stacking range increase?

that's insane

I thought they got rid of acro

[balmy condor]

yes

[earnest remnant]

dont mention that

outlaw might leak over into here

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

killing spree rework is just stacking acro

blade flurry has the range of starfall

[warm vortex]

Imagine acro stacking but with old acro

[balmy condor]

(still target capped at 5)

[warm vortex]

Yes exactly that Whispyr

Also how’s Assa atm, haven’t touched rogue in a while

[balmy condor]

very gud

[warm vortex]

Pog

Numbers wise or how it feels

Or both

[earnest remnant]

cant wait for the 20 line blue note about sub so i can say the same about sub soon

[lyric gate]

since whyspr gave me that weak aura my rogue life changed

[balmy condor]

both, but hero talents still aids

[warm vortex]

Fair

[golden loom]

On mugzee theres not special right, just hit boss use stuff on cd

[warm vortex]

I tried Assa again a bit ago and just eh?
I mean it was fun when the only class I’ve ever looked at properly was rogue
But then I play another and realise like
Jesus stealth fees horrible to get in M+ imo

[golden loom]

we are doing the 4 healer fast push thingy

[warm vortex]

Not even talking abt chain pulling

I love chain pulling, it’s why (or one of the reasons) I love my vanish

[earnest remnant]

yes

just hit him

[golden loom]

lovely

[warm vortex]

I moreso mean just getting unstealthed by random shit

[earnest remnant]

and hope to god you get 2x dm's in phase 2

otherwise your dmg is in shambles

[golden loom]

2 sets of cds or?

ye

[warm vortex]

Also it’s funny that they somehow made MM easier than BM this tier, funnily enough when Mm is better too
(Both are still super easy lmao)

[golden loom]

well its first night of real prog so probably not a worry yet

[warm vortex]

Also Uwu still pumping parse wise?

[golden loom]

well we killed bandit on wednesday and I fumbled hard on last set of cds

so not really 😎

[warm vortex]

lol

I’m not in a mythic guild so I can only just do my heroic parses

99.1 perf avg

And I still think out of the 2 I killed on mythic I got p high

[golden loom]

this was the execute lust cd rotation 🙂

but I havent done any heroic since like week 3 or 4

[warm vortex]

Fair

[golden loom]

or done like 3 gally pugs

[warm vortex]

Tbh idk if I’d like mythic raiding but I’d be down to try

If I didn’t have uni whenever a mythic raid tier came out that is

[olive harbor]

i just need to farm crest on 7s+ . upgrade all and going to have a rogue experience :V at least in heroic

i think tomorrow going to reach this gear

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/woX1AFuPfbLqgMNunYL8iK

or maybe in 2 days

[lyric gate]

you need to farm bubblewax

to top meters

[olive harbor]

bubblewax?

[olive harbor]

so , next 2 day going to get that gear upgrade then going to slam the dummy 5 days, and then going to heroic to make logs

how much time i have, before corruptions

[warm vortex]

[near valley]

bro is waiting on a miracle

[balmy condor]

greater corruptions should be in 4 weeks

[thin portal]

ok boys we rocking mastery now fr fr

recrafts done

[olive harbor]

oh thanks, IF i practice maybe can make a 95, i will try

[thin portal]

need to craft dagger when next spark come out

[olive harbor]

im worried about those ambush procs, looks hard to get used

[near valley]

wdym?

[olive harbor]

for sure is everything explained on wow head guide, but 1st going to end the upgrades it will take me 2 days with luck

the single target raid rotation

i am new as rogue

[strange tundra]

just use spell alert opacity

[worn geyser]

is the bot still rip

[olive harbor]

and I just played on dungeons, still having several issues, but tried on raid, its different

[worn geyser]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[strange tundra]

it shows the ambush

in middle of screen

[olive harbor]

noted

tyvm.

[near valley]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[olive harbor]

i will be back probably after get the upgrades, for more questions, gn mates

and thanks for the help as always really apreciated

[worn geyser]

ive been trying to fix my heroic parses all night and i fumbled the bag and didnt restart my logging after i restarted my wow client so now u can have a picture for my pain

[balmy condor]

ambush procs replace your mutilate button

you don't need to worry about it at all

[olive harbor]

dont have to push ambush, just using mutilate?

its the same?¡

[balmy condor]

yes

yes

[olive harbor]

oh ,, thats why the procs was getting consumed

[near valley]

it auto transforms into ambush

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/mod-delete-lol-mod-delete-delete-delete-this-mod-gif-22004026

[olive harbor]

amazing so, gn whispyr!

[balmy condor]

this is a top meme

[balmy condor]

buen noche

[near valley]

u speak pasta?

[balmy condor]

no pasta, nop

[junior goblet]

hello, i was watching Shindig's guide on assassin, and noted that he said CT is a better spender than envenom for bleed build (even for single target)-- however, when watching his globals during keys where he plays bleed build, i noticed he is only using CT to keep the bleed up, and using envenom otherwise. Am i missing something?

[near valley]

one of those do as they do more than as they say

he's not wrong

[pliant remnant]

Being a "better spender" does not mean "you always spam this"

[balmy condor]

Crimson tempest is a bleed

:)

[near valley]

but it's more that it's more prio to keep ur bleeds up

[balmy condor]

spamming a bleed

is not ideal

[near valley]

over an envenom

but i think you either misheard, or he mispoke

[junior goblet]

gotcha, also sorry i should have said "what am i missing" because i am under no delusion i know better than him hahah -- thank you guys

[balmy condor]

its just very awkward in general

cause maintaining CT in single target is only better on bleed build

[thin portal]

i said my goodbyes to outlaw channel

I will change role now

[balmy condor]

and most people haven't played bleed until now

so it's just whack

[thin portal]

ok name and role changed now

Its official

I am sin now

[pliant remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1360286822931890418/sqdf.gif

[jaunty basin]

can someone write me a mouse over macro for kick i cant get it to work

[thin portal]

there is 2 options

purely mouseover or both mouseover and active target

This is the macro that does both

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt,@mouseover,harm,nodead][] kick

[strange tundra]

my flood experience

[lyric gate]

bro is griefing new players loot i cant

bro why would you play a key with arcane mage

i cant

fucking disease this guys

[strange tundra]

why not

it was his last 15 i assumed he would be good

[lyric gate]

dont assume

[strange tundra]

i guess he was saving barier for next season

[lyric gate]

its a mage

bro

[balmy condor]

[strange tundra]

i trust lil bro

he seems trustworthy

[lyric gate]

bro whispyr is playing arcane mage

what you mean

hes just trying to manipulate

do you use your single shiv dry on hybrid ?

after burst window

[winged sun]

I will be following whispyr’s second rule

[thin portal]

zerosss

im sin now just switched tonight

[winged sun]

Not here too bro

[thin portal]

i wanna feel what real aoe is like

i must learn

[winged sun]

@midnight mist

Based

[thin portal]

also my name says the main reason

here to avoid ks

[winged sun]

Dont cook too hard thats my advice

You’ll need it if ur gonna send it here

[shy axle]

is assa execute the strongest execute dmg in raid?

[winged sun]

U have extremely cooked builds and ideas that are worse than single button rotation ryu but we like you tho so all good

[kind forge]

Are you okay ?

[worn geyser]

new players are griefing my richard barrel damage it is a small tax they must pay

[thin portal]

the stiletto dagger isnt listed on the guide so im guessing it sucks

[normal mist]

it does

[winged sun]

Sucks balls

back to sleep brb

[lyric gate]

bro is rank 1 sleeping

icant

[radiant raven]

Must be some good soup

[lyric gate]

lil bro went full haste vers on my advice is a good boy @thin portal

[pliant remnant]

@winged sun did you know that ryukage went sin?

isn't that crazy

[lyric gate]

traitor

[thin portal]

no actually crit/mast

[nova kelp]

the KS teleport should be visual only imo

should maintain control of your character in spite of the visual effect

[worn geyser]

honestly its iconic for it to grief you. u cant change it

[strange tundra]

sin is a 2 minute burst spec

according to @midnight mist

[nova kelp]

it should be a buff that makes all your skills ranged and you pull out an ar15

/s time to take these kids to school

[worn geyser]

😳

[nova kelp]

it's thematic

[strange tundra]

bro what 💀

[wooden perch]

how does lingering darkness actually proc

[balmy condor]

when deathmark finishes

[wooden perch]

wdym finishes

like when i consume 3 stacks

and get darkest night

[balmy condor]

that's deathstalker mark

deathmark is our 2min cd

[wooden perch]

oh deathmark

fm

im dyslexic i guess

[midnight mist]

its more of a burst spec than outlaw ye

maybe im wrong tho

im washed up

[worn geyser]

on sprocket, on your last CD set, would it be worth to delay cds a few seconds to cycle thru dsm to make your first envenom after DM/HoC/kb shiv be a DN, so you ensure your charged cps are being used on a DN envenom crit?

[near valley]

what isn't?

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-banana-gif-23743798

[subtle tundra]

no im not helping the gorilla

[midnight mist]

why am i being pinged by kaynye in the assa channel tho

hi lucky

are you friend of the owl guy

lucky owl

i miss that guy

[worn geyser]

who is owl guy

damn

[midnight mist]

lucky owl

a legend

[worn geyser]

sounds goated

[midnight mist]

you are too young to have known him

[worn geyser]

perhaps

[grim jay]

@shrewd night

[shrewd night]

Why am I being pinged for dumb shit

[grim jay]

dont say dumb shit

he was your friend

a daily companion in dire times

[shrewd night]

Dont ping me again today

[grim jay]

[midnight mist]

hi koffin

big fan

!

[bronze pike]

I like weasing

Galarian version

[pine mason]

Hi there! is there a platerprofile that doesn't clutter with the amount of debuffs on assassination?

[grim jay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[pine mason]

cheers

[lyric gate]

wouldnt use anything with whispyr in it

[pliant remnant]

bro the amount of times I've seen this shit

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/fan-gif-18399300

[lyric gate]

looks like my cpu cooler

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-creed-bratton-great-minds-front-row-seat-spectating-gif-25644482

[subtle kiln]

@shrewd night

[normal mist]

Kan you managed to hit the filter twice

[wise pilot]

i called myself the r word twice

[normal mist]

Yes ,:,

[wise pilot]

the statement does indeed hold true

[normal mist]

anyway, for you to apply spatter you need to have poison + rupture on the target

then mutilate

[wise pilot]

... erhm i had the wrong one on.

[normal mist]

1 mutilate every 10 seconds is enough

you had internal bleeding?

[wise pilot]

instant posion put on the deadly and it worked.

[normal mist]

ohhh

yeah we basically never use instant

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[wise pilot]

think its cause of me using some other talent build where i had multiple on that i never noticed it honestly

[normal mist]

The only reason to use instant is when you talent into DTB and you dont put a point on amp poison

Which i'm 99% sure no one does that

[wise pilot]

ive not excuse for myself, and as punishment i will watch a movie and eat a snack or five😱

[normal mist]

Good luck soldier

[radiant raven]

What movie. What snack

[wise pilot]

do got one question thoug, the build i played before used temp for bleed and envenom for finisher in between. does that hold true with current build aswell?

[normal mist]

You can just play bleed build and all you do is ... bleed stuff

[wise pilot]

lord of the rings the two towers or they shall not grow old. depends on how bad of a boy ive been. and as for snake.. we got piss max, chocolate 😊 popcorns and icecream

[pliant remnant]

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah, Lotr

[wise pilot]

cookie dough and vanilla

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#bleed

[winged sun]

@midnight mist prepare your outlaw gear

[normal mist]

In the bleed build you want CT up even in ST, and CT refresh > Envenom if no DN is up

[winged sun]

wrong channel mb

[wise pilot]

erh im not well versed in all the acronyms just yet😅 dn as in deadened nerves?

[normal mist]

CT - crimson tempest
DN - Darkest Night, deathstalker capstone

[wise pilot]

ah! ok i got ct the dn one had me fingerlicking confused

i should really get a weakaura for DN then

[golden basin]

Its up right after DM expires so you have until 1:15 DM cd to enjoy DN buff

[wise pilot]

! i will practice it with passion and viciousness right after my movie and snack time and then il report right back to you serg!🫡

[golden basin]

Good luck

[wise pilot]

no snack will be left behind!

[pseudo siren]

Is improved garrote typically not taken in pure ST in raid?

[normal mist]

Wait im a bit lost

[golden basin]

Btw anyone knows why every top rogue assa players are using mono-focus talent builds ? Just tried it in +14 and it aint rly worth

[red schooner]

Because thats what works best in +18s/19s

[golden basin]

Fair enough i thought we were talking of Lingering Darkness lmao

[lyric gate]

DN IS WHAT ?

[normal mist]

Is don't be a nerd

jesus

[normal mist]

!hybrid

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[red schooner]

Hell yeah, new Moroes command

Soon I shall be able to communicate wholly through Moroes

[golden basin]

Uuh fair fair

Thanks for the clarification i was a bit lost between builds

[normal mist]

Yeah those builds are something most of the playerbase wont ever need

[worn geyser]

on pure st, the guide says to use tea with kb but then its also said to not worry about tea usage at all outside of macroing it to shiv but do you need to play around not automatically using tea in order to guarantee one for an upcoming kb?

[golden basin]

Jus to make it clear, Rookery is using Hybrid or Cleave build ?

[spice surge]

Using it with shiv automically lines it up with kb

Like tea has 1 min cd, so does kb

And you use shiv with kb

[spice surge]

If youre struggling on last boss try not bleed, but for the most part its fine to stay bleed

Last boss is just an example of a boss where sometimes (depending on group dps) doing a little bit more st can save you tons of time if you skip an entire shield

[worn geyser]

ah i have been up for too many hours , thanks , but with dry shiving the tea is not aligned with start of solo kb? only the last 8 seconds of it right

[spice surge]

The cooldown is from when you first used tea

The charges dont cooldown independently

Like if you use one at 0, one at 15s and one at 30s they will be ready after 1, 2 and 3 minutes

Since only one charge at a time cools down

[worn geyser]

right itll be up, but wouldnt you need to manually press tea with start of the solo kb instead of just set and forget with the macro? unless u happen to be below energy threshold when it comes off cd?

[spice surge]

Youre very likely to drop below 30, but even if you dont the second shiv will trigger it

[worn geyser]

i see, probably negligible in terms of dps gain , even if pooling before kb prevents autotrigger so u miss a lil mastery /energy on first half

thank you goat

[spice surge]

The mastery is a minor part of tea anyway, most of the damage comes from being able to cast more spells in general, but especially during shiv

[worn geyser]

ya i over valued it in my head for some reason, probably mostly energy starved anyway so it doesnt matter if u miss some spam at start of kb cause then u get the abilities under the later shiv instead , specifically for the solo kb

[winged sun]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[worn geyser]

wheres the daily zeross details screenshot whats ur new big sin numbers on giga pulls

[winged sun]

!cleave

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[winged sun]

idk i didnt stream the key i did the other day

32m dps

but im not sure how i pulled off that number

idk if its rng or if i snapshotted something by mistake

rly needed a log but it was a depleted run unfortunately we were just practicing 1 pull

[worn geyser]

rip those are giga numbers what pull like brew 3 muscle?

[winged sun]

yea

[worn geyser]

damn

[strange tundra]

How many rupture do u spread

[winged sun]

in that pull only 2

[strange tundra]

And just caustic ?

[winged sun]

yea

and CT ofc

[strange tundra]

Good to know

[lyric gate]

got some rio i cant

what a day

[winged sun]

anyone tried ptr

the enchants

is anything uncapped except for the stats thing?

[lyric gate]

you are our leader so figure it out

zeross im about to start 17 priory

what build you paly there

you said subterfuge dogshit

[winged sun]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZmxM2mBAAAAAgZB2mBAAAAAg2WGzgZGjZmZZ2mZmBzYGDmZmNLzMDw2MLjNGzY2aMbLDT2GGWA

yeah u gotta play double shiv in priory

[lyric gate]

thx

[winged sun]

make sure u save vanish for after 1st boss pull, if u dont want to save vanish then dont let darkest night expire

because u have a chance to miss ambushing and deplete the key

[lyric gate]

y im comfy with supercharger builds

playing it in rookery work and top

fucking bird buff almost griefed me

build doenst have benefits from stealth besides bleed spreading anyway

so rather hold that emergency vanish

[winged sun]

does 0 dam

always disable

[winged sun]

it shines the most in priory

super op there

for timer that is

imo its necessary to play in priory

its very good in flood/rookery aswell but its almost mandatory in priory

[loud hawk]

best spellqueuewindow for 58 ms ?

[upper patrol]

Rule of thumb is 200+ ms so 258

[red schooner]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[lyric gate]

ty zeross sorry was in key

[analog field]

any cooked build for 7's ?

i am helping a friend

[loud hawk]

ty

guys on the workshop the in the 2 last packs you can just shroud let the tank first and go left right ?

people are doing anything else but this

and we wipe D:

[shy creek]

As long as the tank goes first its not an issue

But yea I've bricked like 5-6 keys to people walking ahead of tank

I just start typing out how the stealth works

and that if u walk in front of tank u will wipe group

Works

[loud hawk]

yes

its the same scenario as ToP first pack

[near valley]

where do you even use this supercharger build?

i guess the question is why does it exist

[lean plover]

in rank 1 keys

to be able to kill bosses

[near valley]

fair nuff

[knotty kestrel]

@thin portal lmk when you find a build plz

[shy axle]

is assa the strongest execute in raid spec or are there other classes that do more?

just curious

[humble verge]

idk, warriors do have an ability called execute

[winged sun]

!hybrid

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[winged sun]

The build is more like, the bosses last too long so u just end up depleting

And aoe loss is quite small

For higher keys that is

Brb back to sleep

[solemn echo]

Do packs not live long enough for it to be usable sub 17s

[shy creek]

Which build are you talking about

Hybrid?

[solemn echo]

Ye

[shy creek]

They do, its just more aoe over ST

Your boss damage won't brick low keys, but in higher keys it will

[solemn echo]

Gotcha, thanks

[lyric gate]

we were talking about specific hybrid

[vapid sierra]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[solemn echo]

Referring to the TTK build zeross uses yeah, working on my Assa set just to have something in the back pocket if KS tilts me too hard lol

[mental thistle]

Is there a list of whort getting with dinars?

[fleet pagoda]

probably depends on the content you're doing. best to sim yourself

[acoustic kite]

What do you guys run in pure raid st, lingering darkness for nature damage or the 18%envenom empowerment after shiv? Consistently hitting some very juicy 14-17m envenoms on sprocket running lingering darkness but I’ve been curious about changing that talent

[fleet pagoda]

i don't think you get to press shiv often enough for that to feel like good value

[jaunty kayak]

assa is still the play for mugzee prog correct? even after the new zerg/prison-skipping strats?

[mortal elm]

with supercharge - we still aim to always end on 5? we wouldnt send on 3 as we know its gonna proc a mark stack as supercharge will act as if it was 5?

[iron carbon]

Yes, you keep normal rotation

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/turbo-boost-valorstones-become-warbound-transferrable-at-25-penalty-376738?utm_source=discord-webhook

[grand trail]

Gotta cap two alts

[iron carbon]

You can also use shiv out of cd with lingering darkness and before proccing DN

In ST build

[mortal elm]

yeah big dry shiv assume for that u would still go 7 and not end shorter with supercharge

[iron carbon]

And you got the damages empowering from DN proc

[tardy echo]

anyone know like a number for how much DR atrophic poison does for the entire fight encounter for like a mythic boss? like a random range of number. i was under estimating how much it did until i had to miss a raid night and my healers thanked me for my return seems like its more appreciated than i initially thought.

[west crown]

It doesn’t change?

[coral ibex]

your healers are cooked, the effect is often significantly less than the amount on the poison because not all damage taken is sourced to the boss

[gloomy heart]

did moroes get revived

[coral ibex]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[coral ibex]

[spice spire]

Moroes loves dick

[runic hinge]

Takes after you

[spice spire]

???????

Tony you need to suck me off or?

[grim jay]

I am his official substitute

[spice spire]

????

[grim jay]

to suck you off

[spice spire]

?????

[grim jay]

[keen spruce]

[gloomy heart]

[fresh kelp]

wcl provides an estimate in healing -> toggle on mitigations

[sharp viper]

can we get rid of the stupid fucking cyrce's circlet once the ilvl increase hits?

[normal mist]

I mean probably

It will depend on sims

[spice spire]

I already can

[sharp viper]

how quake?

teach me

[runic hinge]

Get some good rings

Step 1

[spice spire]

hero gally ring really pushed the issue immediately

[jaunty matrix]

isn't circlet for sin like a 700+ ilvl ring ?

[spice spire]

there's a giant * there

[jaunty matrix]

hmm

[spice spire]

at a certain point you're dring mastery so hard it's worse

[fleet pagoda]

can't wait to be annoyed by the new belt for a season and half instead

[lyric silo]

So in aoe vs single target. With double vanish, do you always hold one vanish for 6 sec left on deaths mark/kingsbane? new to rogue this tier. I remember it always being last 3 sec for the increased crit on last kings and tick?

[wise pilot]

wait did i understand this correctly: we ct in st in m+ as to get the bleed up, or as the only finisher outside of rupture?

[iron carbon]

With double vanish and playing master assassin, you can vanish at 12 sec left on kb debuff

[iron carbon]

Bleed up, useless to spam ct

rupture, CT, envenom

[wise pilot]

ok! but we spam it in aoe do?

[iron carbon]

No

You apply and refresh

[wise pilot]

...

ive been spamming it like my virginity depended on it

[iron carbon]

CT doesn't do damages on use

It just apply the dot

[wise pilot]

well.. what can i say, i got it from my mother

[solemn echo]

After you've applied bleed additional damage comes from spatter

[shy axle]

does anyone know if you can buy rick reverb gear with dinars when you killed every boss after him, like vault does give you the loot to then? or do you have to kill _exactly_him

[lyric silo]

Do you hold second vanish for restealth on chain pulls instead of using on KB with no DM?

[solemn echo]

Thinks it's trinkets and cantrip weps?, but you have to have killed the boss at least once

[iron carbon]

You don't use on no DM kb

[hearty hemlock]

Does anyone have the spell IDs for the Deathmark duplicated dots? i am trying to blacklist them

[lyric silo]

Ahh thank you!

[iron carbon]

No dm kb doesn't do a lot of damages

[iron carbon]

Addon Spell ID, you apply on a dummy and check the id in the tooltip

[shy axle]

@solemn echo thought just all weapons tbh

shame, thank you, was hoping it would be like vault to buy the dagger

[hearty hemlock]

Yeah this is more of a limitation of my boss frames, they only show 8 debuffs of my own debuff, so i will just change that to get them. just seeing if anyone had them offhand

[solemn echo]

Might be, I may have been misinformed, but you do need the kill the boss once

[wise pilot]

so in essence its bleed up in the opening phase and make sure afterwards to apply as many garrotes/ruptures? or only apply em on vanish?

[shy creek]

You're appliyng bleeds to your target, and if all bleeds are up you're slamming envenom

[iron carbon]

Depends the build but yes, you spread dot under Indiscrimate Carnage, maintain at least 5 rupture all time and CT all time

[zenith smelt]

coud annyone break down to see whats going wrong in this key dps wise? 🙂

[thin portal]

So would you guys play bleed or cleave build on raid fights like Stix amd gally?

[lean plover]

u play raid build

[unreal tide]

we play outlaw for raid

[lyric gate]

damage quite low

[thin portal]

I just went full crit mastery for keys also

[lean plover]

bleed likes haste btw

[thin portal]

Is single target different

[lean plover]

not like outlaw

but not a dead stat

[thin portal]

Shit

I have to recraft again?

[lean plover]

Dont go full crit/mastery

just top gear

sin likes stats, all of them

[lean plover]

nope, it would be a minor dps change anyway

[thin portal]

Well I sim haste/vers vs crit/mast and it said all recraft to crit mast

[lean plover]

you will recraft next week anyway

[thin portal]

That was for bleed

[lean plover]

sim crit hasta and hasta mast too

[thin portal]

Hmm

Ok

[lean plover]

i have a vers mast ring that sims better than crit mast

[thin portal]

I have that ring too

[hardy rapids]

whats this new belt I keep seeing mentioned every now and then

[viscid spear]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[hollow river]

11.1.7 cantrip item

[lyric gate]

i dont get it why dfc neck should be bis

[hollow river]

like we've gotten the past 4 .7 patches

[hardy rapids]

oh cool

I cant lie I do like those kind of items

[thin portal]

Well the command explaining builds said the cleave build is for high keys. So noobs like us should use the raid single target and bleed build for keys.

[hollow river]

because the profile has to get a little vers from something

assa isn't a spec that ignores a stat to the point of leaving it at zero

[lyric gate]

why that

[hollow river]

because thats what simmed the best

bis lists can mostly be ignored

sim your own gear

there's like 20+ combinations that sim within 0.2%

[thin portal]

So what's the general rule for raid

Build wise

Single target and just apply bleeds as add damage

[golden loom]

this on every boss except sprocket

[thin portal]

Ok

[golden loom]

sprocket u swap caustic to internal bleeding

[thin portal]

Cleave build yeah

I was gonna try it

Internal bleeding yeah I saw that thanks for confirm

The idea is to setup a rupture so caustic spatters kingsbane damage right

I need to read the rotation again

Been awhile

[dawn seal]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtlety.

[golden loom]

well in raid you will have 100% uptime on spatter on the mob cause you are building with mutilate (and you always have rupture on the target) and then everything just spatters off the target so adds get hit

[brave comet]

mythic bandit down

i misused my cooldowns, next time i'm definitely getting an orange

[golden loom]

gzz

[lyric gate]

gg

just open with deathmark on reel assistant

like me

[thorn thorn]

You hate KS so desperately

[thin portal]

Hell yeah

[lyric gate]

im sure i can do more in a 14 cleft

using poisoned knife as a builder

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kryonax-skull-gif-26476587

[lyric gate]

only using 1 muitlate for caustic padder

[normal mist]

[short pine]

in hero bandit tank should be dragging to both adds right

feel like my dmg is always ass on bandit thought i’m playing ts like textbook

[royal lantern]

yes

on mythic aswell btw

tanks just hate playing the game

[short pine]

ok cool so i can blame tank

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-reaction-gif-15600378618264653600

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-animal-cursed-gif-7333588490945652950

[thin portal]

What macro do u guys use for bleeds? I took the demonhunter one and still need to test it working on selected target and mouseover simaltaniously.

this one

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt,@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Sample Text

works so you can just press bind on target and mouseover if needed

[thorn thorn]

Sample Text

[thin portal]

would be great for rupture

[hollow river]

you can just do mouseover,exists,harm etc

without a modifier

[short pine]

doesn’t mouseover cast enabled just work without needing a macro

[hollow river]

idk i only want it on specific abilities so i always use macros

[thorn thorn]

Mouseover everything has its disadvantages

[thin portal]

like in aoe your not going to select a target for each bleed just mouseover them

[hollow river]

tbh starting out you can just garrote/rupture the same target you open on multiple times to spread bleeds during IC

[short pine]

where would yall need the select target?

[hollow river]

then you tab target or mouseover to refresh ruptures when they're falling off

[short pine]

i used to have a macro for it on all of my abilities but it became really annoying to find my prio again

[thin portal]

oh true

if u tab youll lose your prio target

so its even better to mouseover to reapply bleeds

[hollow river]

you can make your deathstalker's mark more apparent if it isn't already

[spice surge]

You can shift tab and it will cycle back

[thin portal]

how do you do that

[hollow river]

the mark? plater

[thin portal]

oh

[weary spear]

Even for IC window if you’re trying to min max your bleed spreads by doing mouseover instead, if you lose even one GCD by doing it incorrectly it’s no longer a gain

[thin portal]

i never did shift tab thats interesting

a mob pack is usually dead in 1 rupture 10-14 keys prob wont get to practice reapplying them til higher

i donno

will be able to play tomorrow

[hollow river]

depends on the other dps as well

have had some dogshit 10-12s even that i got to reapply bleeds a lot throughout the key

[thin portal]

yeah i can see that

[lyric gate]

isnt there a macro taht always tricks the tank

im tired of rewriting mine every key

[sonic zinc]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[lyric gate]

ah

yoiu need wa

[jaunty warren]

For keys >10 is it worth using wound poison on the yes men in in cinderbrew ..then swapping back to deadly for the boss ?

[lyric gate]

what

[sonic pagoda]

is this a good breakdown for ass whysper build in an 11 flood gatte?

[weary spear]

Does wound poison stop them from full-healing?

[hollow river]

highly doubt its ever worth

need deadly for spatter

[sonic pagoda]

so you are trying to make it to where you can cleave them? wound poison will not work on the yes men its just a mechanic nice thinking though

[lean plover]

no point on cleaving adds that wull heal bsck to 100% hp tho

[coral ibex]

no

[sonic pagoda]

Are you saying almsot every single class in the game in a mythic + build doesnt just cleave its ass off?

[coral ibex]

wound poison does dogshit damage and the effect is bad

[sonic pagoda]

dont be smart

[lean plover]

but with wound poison they will still heal

[sonic pagoda]

Thats what we are saying

[coral ibex]

i mean in an m+ spec there's no way to not cleave on those guys

[sonic pagoda]

So just do your rotation normall and try to st more on yes men lol like its not an issue

[coral ibex]

you just focus one

[sonic pagoda]

yeah just mark em with skull lol

and everyone thats played the game will target it

[fleet pagoda]

just do all your building with garrote so you can ethically not pad on the yes men

[coral ibex]

actually its probably optimal to be spamming fok as a generator for the first guy

[sonic pagoda]

lmao

i send deathmark into first one idc

i save no cds

[coral ibex]

saving is probably the wrong choice more often than not in m+

just generally

[vapid bolt]

being assigned for gaol prisons sux holy shit

[sonic pagoda]

better swap outlaw

[sonic pagoda]

100% never save lmao

[vapid bolt]

yea i have no clue how to play this as sin

raidlead will slap my ass when he sees me on sub again

[pure moth]

Just dont go in them?

[coral ibex]

ask your RL why you're in gaols as assa

when you can cleave multiple goons from outside

[vapid bolt]

addicted to the

[sonic pagoda]

lmao sometiems raid leads dont actually thing lmao

[vapid bolt]

it's so easy

[coral ibex]

or race swap to velf

[royal lantern]

i would rather alt+f4 myself

[pure moth]

^

[coral ibex]

your dedication to uptime is lacking

[vapid bolt]

exactly, i love my 15 dwarfs

[sonic pagoda]

undead or gtfo

[thorn thorn]

I say it many times and I will continue saying it until its no longer true

Name a more iconic duo than Raid Leads and being stupid

[coral ibex]

modern undead is shit

[strange python]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[coral ibex]

not the same as classic

the model update killed undead

[earnest flume]

i'll be simming myself whenever i actually get a ring but is the expectation that circe's circlet will be obsolete for some after this coming ilvl boost or no?

[coral ibex]

maybe

[west crown]

684 does not = 700

[coral ibex]

yea but having increased stat allocations in all other slots will decrease the relative value of a ring with 1 gorillion mastery