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quiet oar
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just put ilevel=685

buoyant herald
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i want to work it out with this pencil

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lol

quiet oar
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behind your ring

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you want to test

buoyant herald
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in any case it looks like it's going to be so close you'd never notice

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in which case you take ilvl for stam

quiet oar
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ye

buoyant herald
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idk but yeah sim of course

opaque crypt
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i just crafted mh dagger for me fresh assassin rogue and i have bis off hand heroic do i craft off hand for my rest of sparks ? or just spend on gear

static glacier
opaque crypt
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alright thanks

quiet oar
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Just make sure you crafted a agi dagger

golden loom
opaque crypt
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i mean status

normal mist
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
final star
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@balmy condor how does the VV calc work

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cos I swear it's not mut damage * 0.7

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but mut damage * 1.7

winged sun
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guys

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whats this

final star
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belt broken

winged sun
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what belt

balmy condor
winged sun
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never heard of a belt

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am i living under a rock

jaunty matrix
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but from delves

winged sun
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oh really

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like

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strong strong?

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when we get it next week?

jaunty matrix
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no idea, probably it will be strong

winged sun
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rly

jaunty matrix
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we dont know details

winged sun
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u have a link or

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like i literally missed it on wowhead or someshit

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or is there no post

final star
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which obviously isn't represented in ST sims

jaunty matrix
# winged sun like i literally missed it on wowhead or someshit
final star
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(for raid)

balmy condor
final star
winged sun
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ok watching

final star
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look at the vers

winged sun
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hmm

jaunty matrix
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outlaw bis belt

winged sun
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i mean

jaunty matrix
winged sun
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it doesnt even say it gives vers on wowhead

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tf

final star
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everyone bis belt

winged sun
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lol

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i mean i hope they dont nerf that to water where it evne sucks on alts like

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i want a bis item or just dont add something new

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if an item isn't good for high keys blizzard should rethink their entire life and career to reconsider adding the item

winged sun
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otherwise they should know the item is bad in high keys and should never be added for anyone else

final star
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it's obviously too strong rn lol

winged sun
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well keiron

jaunty matrix
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keys exist just to farm items so every item is good for +10 garf

winged sun
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that vers looks too unrealistic

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so we cant know how good it is

subtle tundra
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the only belt i want is the one i take off you to give you a bj

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@balmy condor

jaunty matrix
humble verge
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hmmm borderlands 4 has gotten a release date

final star
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gta vi announced theirs everyone feels safe and cosy now OMEGAKEKW

limber lion
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But they recently moved it a few weeks early

humble verge
limber lion
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Yep

humble verge
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im surprised its 8 on most wishlisted

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considering the bl3 egs fiasco and the movie

humble verge
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i just hope its not legendary on legendary drop every bossfight

subtle tundra
humble verge
subtle tundra
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i started playing clair obscure and its pretty good

humble verge
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i started a replay on nier

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cause i dont have my old save on gamepass sadge

subtle tundra
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i wouldnt know what that is

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🏴‍☠️

analog field
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My circlet is still better than the 684 rings (apart from jastor), so it will be still questionable for some people

orchid pewter
final star
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idk how much stats circes gives

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but there must be a point where the new ring gives more

balmy condor
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for my char its like 695

winged sun
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XDD i'll probably eventually have to drop it for extra stamina but idk maybe legendary is good or is it bad

humble verge
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aint no way

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BfA timewalking

final star
lyric gate
balmy condor
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or you could look at the pins

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but sure yah

final star
lyric gate
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bully

final star
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hi!

lyric gate
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what scenario is dungeon slice btw

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when i see the damage break down it looks like 2 target

balmy condor
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2min boss + 4 min of alternating small/large pulls, including restealths and chain pulls

lyric gate
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oh thats why

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good to know

spice surge
final star
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maybe

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I haven't bothered to sim it yet

spice surge
analog field
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i am more balanced so maybe that's why it keeps full value

winged sun
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wtf

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the belt is 688 ilvl

spice surge
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Goes to 694

winged sun
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when is 11.1.7 tho

spice surge
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But it doesnt have any passive stats so shrugeg

winged sun
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694 sounds insane

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definitely should be bis

spice surge
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Well ye its supposed to be like the circlet

winged sun
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unless the bonus dmg is complete dog

spice surge
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It has azerite power type shit on it

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Like the bonus effects you can choose from similar to azerite armor

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But obviously not class specific, just generic ones

final star
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It's going to be bis for ages for us if it's decent because of our terrible secondary scaling

humble verge
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idk

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my ring + heroic jastor seemed to sim pretty well

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or maybe it didnt account for the circlet

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need to do a resim

spice surge
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I mean circlet is just secondaries as well

humble verge
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yeye

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the thing is

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ive got the uh

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cinderbrew? ring idk

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only thing ill prolly lose is a lot of crit but

sharp crow
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Hey guys, can somebody tell me why i lack a lot with energy on st bosses

humble verge
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!energy

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

sharp crow
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❤️

spice surge
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Not that it matters much

sharp crow
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do i have to avoid to get under 30 energy?

spice surge
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No

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Just hit buttons Surebud

humble verge
grim jay
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I mean, there are many people simming the ring wrong lately. kekdog

humble verge
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wdym

lyric gate
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kekshookj

humble verge
spice surge
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Thats 5 minutes instead of 7ig

lyric gate
winged sun
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like there are many things u can choose from

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not bad or

balmy condor
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its gonna be bis

winged sun
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ye ofc

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it has alot of stats

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its actually crazy wtf

spare kayak
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what is that?any links?

hearty reef
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Pin??????

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winged sun
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subtle tundra
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fucking focus on .2 or something not this slop content

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holy shit!

winged sun
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i'd rather have this belt not be added to the game

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-600k hp is annoying as fuck

onyx scroll
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hp is overrated. That's a healer issue

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we're just there to slam dps

winged sun
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i cba assa is already giga squishy and they add an item with no stamina like

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im gonna die on +16 keys or what

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???

pine copper
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Excuse me, May I ask you a question?

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I’ve accumulated 5 combo points, but an ambush has occurred due to a blindside. Should I use envenom and then Ambush, or use Ambush to generate 7 bubbles and then use envenom? 'Darkest Night' has not been activated yet.

balmy condor
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you finish

feral mason
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It was 4000 yesterday

balmy condor
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ptr can change

winged sun
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7000 what

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ah

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idk thats from meeres stream

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he was on tank spec

feral mason
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Strange

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like i checked all the procs on outlaw

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they were fuckin horrid

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7000 is more like it

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but yeah if they want to make it bis they gotta do some work because the current iteration is pretty poor

winged sun
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surely they add stamina to the belt i just bug reported it

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not that its a bug but

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fuck no stamina items

feral mason
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I just think this belt is dumb anyway, even the ring was designed better than this

vital cradle
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Just put stam gems in all your sockets. Problem solved.

feral mason
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this whole overcharged delve thing was put together in like a day

winged sun
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ye

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stupid ass shit

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just add content for the sake of content

feral mason
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all it is is puddles all over the floor in delves

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And a tree that gives secondary stats while in delves

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Not even cool procs

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Legit just 5% agility or 10% haste

balmy condor
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I mean there is legit not one piece of interesting gear in wow

subtle tundra
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OK

balmy condor
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legendaries were almost interesting but ended up just being pretty much passive increases

subtle tundra
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AND???????????????????????
WHO CARES

grim jay
balmy condor
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transmitter was not interesting

subtle tundra
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game was about gear in vanilla

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cause gameplay was nonexistant

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now gameplay is a thing

frank trench
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Wotherbark branch was my favorite trinket of all time then grief torch

subtle tundra
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youre wrong and im right

grim jay
frank trench
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Witherbark was the not bad version of transmitter lol

grim jay
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I kinda questioned the item team every time I used transmitter

subtle tundra
grim jay
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So it added smth

balmy condor
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but like tier sets are supposed to be cool

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and then 2/3 tiers

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are just mastery%

proud pelican
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Idk storm eaters boon went crazy

balmy condor
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and they add a semi-cool tier set last tier

proud pelican
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I loved dying to that

frank trench
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Shadowlands and being able to craft different styles to you play was kinda cool on some classes

balmy condor
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and then delete itSmile

frank trench
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Speaking of duying to things lol only reason I switched to assassination was duying to killing spree then feeling like I was going to vomit after casting it 7 or 8 times in a row lol. Outlaw has built in transmitter :p

balmy condor
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but like every item in wow is just some form of secondary/agility (which functionally does nothing interesting for rogues), a damage proc you won't ever notice unless you open details, or uh

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idk that's it lmao

grim jay
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I loved legion legendaries. Getting a good one first and then laughing about the agony of everyone else

subtle tundra
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BUT DO YOU HAVE THE MINECART TRINKET?

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WHERE YOU SEE THE MINECART HIT THE BOSS?

balmy condor
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yes

humble verge
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minecart

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more like

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minecraft

frank trench
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I liked vexies spare keys but it’s such a cuck trinket 😦 the fact it doesn’t even work right and hit many bosses is laaaaame

proud pelican
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I liked grieftorch too because I could feast off of my bad guildies

frank trench
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Grieftorch just looked cool too

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Got mythic vexies. Did a rookery 13 found out the bike doesn’t hit first or last boss and banked it forever.

balmy condor
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you'll notice a trend that all the cool stuff looks cool and feels cool idk

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grieftorch you get big fuck off fire balls

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resets on it gg you get more

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feels sick

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but like how many of those items do we get

frank trench
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It was hilarious on first pull seeing like 2000 fireballs shooting off from 10 people lol.

balmy condor
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and even then, aside from just looking cool, do you know how many people hated fucking grieftorch cause channel=bad

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idk

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I think itemization in wow is actually so insanely shit

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considering how important items are to like

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the entire genre

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it's so strange that wow's approach to items lately has been "take ilvl, take a trinket that gives you stats with your cds, and then idk something that procs stats or procs damage I guess"

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tier sets are shit

frank trench
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95% of wow is the first boost you get off main stats ilvl then it’s all like a 5% gain chasing for 16 weeks

balmy condor
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circlet is just "here's stats"

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like you take a big picture look at gear over the course of an expac

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and you realize that there's actually fucking nothing

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it's insanely pathetic

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there's 2, maybe 3 cool trinkets

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first 2 tier set bonuses are absolute throwaways

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otherwise just ilvl

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??????

subtle tundra
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isnt the mechagon cloth wrists really cool

balmy condor
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circlet, delve belt

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gg

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that's this expansions loot

normal mist
balmy condor
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mechagon wrists are cool

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they change opener and stuff

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it's nice

lean plover
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idc about loot tbf, all i want is top gameplay

balmy condor
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more things that impact players

golden loom
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print this again cowards

lean plover
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and not omegaboring hero tslents

normal mist
balmy condor
stuck knoll
balmy condor
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agi, stam, hit, att, haste, att

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huge

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6x passive stats

subtle tundra
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i think stuff like melee attack speed should be a thing

balmy condor
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ty blizzard

subtle tundra
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cause that interacts with specs

normal mist
balmy condor
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yah attack speed would be neat

winged sun
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we cant even mog the glaives man

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fk this shit

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like

winged sun
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why do i have 4 of them on my account and i cant even mog 1

normal mist
winged sun
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i have alot of dh's

normal mist
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Kill TW illidan

grim jay
golden loom
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gotta do TBC timewalking when its around then

winged sun
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so i had infinite alts of everything

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i think 2 of my DHs have warglaives

balmy condor
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Idk I just want them to throw some insanely wild shit onto gear for a season or something, wasn’t that the point of SoD to like learn from doing insano things and see what people like and don’t

grim jay
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Jk

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Or am I?

golden loom
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Yeah tbh they did kinda cook with sod but had like 1 bad patch that turned people off and then it got good again afterwards

balmy condor
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Like fuck it give me a trinket that turns my fan of knives into a 15 second cooldown finisher or some shit

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Like rip a line of cocaine

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And just do something dumb

grim jay
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Thats basically how some people came to exist

balmy condor
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Worst case scenario it still sucks and no one plays it

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Like the other 95% of trinkets in this game

normal mist
grim jay
copper hazel
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FoK turns your rogue into a beyblade, going apeshit bonkers for 5 seconds

normal mist
normal mist
balmy condor
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That’s what fucking choice nodes shoulda been

normal mist
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Check that shit

balmy condor
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Why do we have internal bleeding vs caustic choice node

winged sun
balmy condor
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And not “when your rupture expires it fucking explodes” vs “your rupture does giga dam but lasts 50% less time”

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Like

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Actual shit

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Idk

winged sun
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well atleast it isn't as bad as the useless outlaw talents

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i think every class has shit nodes like that

balmy condor
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Wow plays it so safe with everything

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Yah they do

strange python
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Omg whispyr

balmy condor
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And it’s piss boring

strange python
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Did we just touch swords 🥹👉🏻👈🏻

balmy condor
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That’s kinda why I like VV as well

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Cause like even though it’s passive it feels different (many will say worse but fuck those bozos)

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It’s noticeably better execute

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It interacts with the rest of your stuff like caustic

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Like passive, but still does stuff, feels different, synergy

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Good talent

spice surge
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Compare that to systematic failure

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They do the same thing of buffing ambush and mutilate

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But one is just so much more interesting

winged sun
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my favorite one right here

sonic schooner
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Haste

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that one a funny one fr

winged sun
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idk whats worse

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that or the talent that generates 25 energy in dance

royal lantern
balmy condor
sonic schooner
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but now we overflow in energy during dance so

winged sun
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well back then yea

sonic schooner
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it s like ks you know

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shit but legaxy

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legacy kekdog

balmy condor
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Yah but imagine new ks

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Its like gta 6

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They just want to make sure it’s perfect ya know

winged sun
sonic schooner
subtle tundra
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MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

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MEOW ! ! ! ! MEOW ! ! ! !

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HIGH MEOW ALERT

sonic schooner
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whatcha meowing

balmy condor
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You’re playing survival meower, your meows are lighting up, you’re pressing all the meows, and then you’re yelling MEOW WEEK holy meow get meowed out of the meow you stupid fuck

grim jay
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I think its the contrast

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Insane lyrical prowess

balmy condor
hidden bay
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@balmy condor how about you go to bed

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bitch

winged sun
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Can i go to bed too herp

hidden bay
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are you from the US?

winged sun
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No but its 5 pm here

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Kinda getting late abit

winged sun
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Ok this is weird because i had to wake up early

balmy condor
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I didn’t know

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Flash

winged sun
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And now im tired as fuck

hidden bay
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hot

balmy condor
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Eyes hurt

viscid spear
hidden bay
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are you on your purple mattress, with your purple pillow?

viscid spear
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Man's trying to sleep and you're flashbanging him

normal mist
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Old one!!

hidden bay
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whispyr confirmed pro trump

balmy condor
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Yes

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My hair is dying blue and red

hidden bay
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that means you are pro elon too

balmy condor
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Like the sirens on police car

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Because blue lives matter or whatever

oak tangle
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your orange man is taxing my movies!!

viscid spear
buoyant pilot
viscid spear
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He's going to build a (fire)wall

balmy condor
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Im somethin alright

viscid spear
oak tangle
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how do rehide a spoiler tag

viscid spear
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As you should

hidden bay
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ill delete it for you

balmy condor
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Dm spoiler to me

hidden bay
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thats not something what i should write in dms

viscid spear
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Clearly you should dm a clip of you doing it NODDERS

hidden bay
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challenge accepted

viscid spear
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I'm sure he has a Goon Clip folder

dapper cradle
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Does the movie tax mean that my hentai will be more expensive?

viscid spear
lavish hazel
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hello, i feel like supercharger doesnt affect CT, am i wrong

grim jay
grim jay
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@spice surge is usually up to date on bugs

lavish hazel
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i think it doesnt extend duration

humble verge
# balmy condor

bro laying in bed not like hes been up all night shitposting here

spice surge
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Just like with rupture

lavish hazel
spice surge
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But that can be a noticeable increase in some situations

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Since the "do more damage if you hit multiple targets" check that CT does is fixed at the start

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For example if you hit 5 targets but 4 of them die 5 seconds later

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The bleed that remains on your main target that lived is still considered as a "5 target ct" and gets the +100% damage

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So increasing the duration of that by 6 seconds would be really good

static glacier
oak tangle
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anyone played that clair obscur game? i am worried i wont like turn based

scenic kraken
static glacier
lyric gate
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op

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can get rid of this shitty ring

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holy

oak tangle
lyric gate
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gettin bullied by hunters that 2.3 is low for raid sim

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i cant

static glacier
fluid thunder
oak tangle
lyric gate
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bro our hunter was like 6 mill dps after sec set of adds

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on bandit mythic

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what you mean

oak tangle
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also this main character si the msot french looking guy i've ever seen

static glacier
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i watched a friend play it

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there was an outlaw rogue

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with a sword and gun

oak tangle
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bruh this triggers me, im dead in this game in 3 years irl

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lol

fast phoenix
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oh my... caustic spatter daddy on mythic Stix

split veldt
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how are parses calculated for keys? i dont get it. Is it just time and key level?

oak tangle
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welcome to doing a +10 you're already somewaht in the top 1% of all players

grim jay
grim jay
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Key parses are basically useless

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So you could spare yourself the headache

split veldt
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word

untold pawn
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should i save vanish for 2nd Deathmark for improved garrote or i should send it when my 3rd shiv comeback?

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because it says to line up these 3 cd for big burst, but if i send vanish on pull when my first garrote ends, it wont line up right?

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
oak tangle
subtle tundra
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well the starting area is just that

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nothing more

red schooner
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When an enemy goes for an attack and you just enter a parry flow state, it's fantastic

oak tangle
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im struggling to dodge the first chick

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HAH

sour marten
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hey guys, im kinda new to Sin, what kind of plater you use? the default plater has wayy too much info, cant keep track of bleeds/poison

oak tangle
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check out whispyrs fork

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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
sour marten
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oh ty very much

hollow talon
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whats everyone taking for dinar if everything but gally loot is avail

coral ibex
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signet pacemaker and then hold for gally

subtle tundra
red schooner
subtle tundra
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normal

red schooner
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I'm just on expeditioner

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But yeah its brutal if you fuck up a few hits early on. Also those mimes have got fuckin' hands I swear

subtle tundra
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im a dummy and zone out cause its turn based so i fuck up

oak tangle
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what percentage of the game is combat vs exploration?

maiden sierra
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youre simming 2.28mil at 675 ilvl, at that ilvl i sim around 2.4mil dps

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though who cares about sims tbf

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dh sims 400k dps more than sin rogue while doing less damage than sin rogue on sprocket

lyric gate
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gettin bullied here also i see

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im simming 2.36 at 671

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btw

hot flicker
oak tangle
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this lune is OP, why is the main character the expedition leader

rose inlet
subtle tundra
hot flicker
rose inlet
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well yeah

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but for people who are going to kill gally but just haven't yet, might as well wait

hot flicker
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That is true idk probably signet and pacemaker is best bet or HoC

hollow talon
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Ye we just started mug yesterday

hot flicker
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Guess it’ll just depend on what gear you already got

hollow talon
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Hoc was simming like 1k higher but signet and pacemaker were very close

hot flicker
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2 on use?

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I hate 2 on use personally but each to their own

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That’s just a preference of my own though lol

subtle tundra
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nobody said anything about 2 on use

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cause its strictly bad

nova aspen
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ill use u twice

hot flicker
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Oh I misunderstood

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I just realised he said hoc was out simming those trinkets

grim jay
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You dont really need the 3rd Dinar in that case, so getting one on heroic first is pretty good

rose inlet
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yeah true only thing left at that point is like outlaw weap

grim jay
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So basically nothing left

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Because

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Who wants to play outlul

spice surge
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Mythic kezan for next tiers mugzee where nothing before 5 minutes matter S
garf

hidden bay
#

its true

#

useless trinket

spice surge
#

Because surely theyll forget to nerf it

hidden bay
#

will get seaforium with first dinars and thats it

#

cuz i still believe in the mythic jastor in vault

hollow talon
#

i tried outlaw for half a raid night and i got arthritis

#

they massacred that spec

#

its a mistake

warm vortex
#

Wowheaddown for anyone else

wary crow
#

Hi, is a sword left hand not a good idea it does it change nothing?

maiden sierra
#

your abilities dont work without 2 daggers

wary crow
#

Fuck... i wanted to have a set of weapon to both outlaw/assa but i see that i need 3 weapons

grim jay
spice surge
oak tangle
#

i got bronchitis!

grim jay
#

More time to play

oak tangle
#

aint nobody got time for that

hollow talon
#

it was always a bit high in previous xpacs but never that bad

grim jay
#

Wow has nothing that requires actual high apm

oak tangle
#

i thought i had carpal tunnel for a few months, extreme pain when i was wiping my ass

hollow talon
#

i guess but like outside of starcraft and stuff like that

#

what do people play that much these days

grim jay
oak tangle
grim jay
oak tangle
#

the good old "it hurts when i do this" "don't do that then" kinda treatment

hollow talon
#

lol isnt that bad but depends on the champion i guess

#

stuff like nidalee is bad

grim jay
#

LoL has mouse Inputs

#

Way way more than WoW, even if its just pressing the same key

#

Your joints dont care about which key you press tho

hollow talon
#

thats true

#

i guess usuaully i just wouldnt play like 3 hours of lol with no break like a raid night

#

so i dont notice as much

oak tangle
#

you play less than 3 hours of a moba at once, craaaazy casual

hollow talon
#

i dont have the mental to deal with the animals on my team for more than 1.5 hours max

royal lantern
#

i dont have the mental to deal with myself for more then 10min

oak tangle
#

i mean it's the correct way to play, but like how

lyric gate
#

play poe1

#

league of legends icant

wary crow
royal lantern
golden loom
#

you gotta keep clicking tho

oak tangle
#

imagine a moba, but with WASD movement

wary crow
#

Smite?

golden loom
#

Yeah was gonna say kekdog

oak tangle
#

wtf is my message red for

#

well i mean one of the two mobas

balmy prism
#

shame smite 2 is so lackluster

#

had potential

royal lantern
oak tangle
#

unironically, I uninstalled dota 2 this year, cause i was getting mad

wary crow
#

Speaking of high APM and taking moba is not the best example imo

storm tundra
#

hey guys - is there a weakaura vor evasion that shows me a symbol or giving a sound when something is targeting me which i can evade?

golden loom
wary crow
#

Moba take apm but are kinda ok out of combat phase, you got some rush tho

golden loom
#

Not familiar with that but I know atleast personally I keep high APM all through league games just to keep up

#

or stay in rythm I guess

normal mist
#

!design

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

normal mist
#

!energy

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

normal mist
#

ok

hidden bay
#

!whispyr

normal mist
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
lyric gate
#

bro wants me to gem haste everywhere

#

icant

#

oh because neck is crit master<y

hidden bay
#

you sim almost similar as i do right now

#

crazy

golden loom
#

I mean my sim wants me to gem Vers Crit everywhere

#

but cba

lyric gate
#

let me check actual sim

#

feelsbad

hidden bay
#

bro you get 8 ilvl and only get 140k sim dps

#

this spec is COOKED

hidden bay
balmy condor
#

Yepge

west crown
#

New Ilvl being added to sims on patch like normal?

nova aspen
balmy condor
#

Yepge

royal lantern
#

they should make us grind new items tbh

nova aspen
#

i just spent half the season getting the items

#

and now i gotta do 26 more 12s

#

to remax my gear

lyric gate
#

trade up ?

#

26 10s is 520 crest

#

12s

hidden bay
#

i cant grind fuck

#

i will be gone friday/saturday/sunday

#

time to blast 26 12s on wed/thu

humble verge
#

26

grand trail
nova aspen
#

26 was a guess btw

grand trail
#

already have all the bis items 😄

nova aspen
royal lantern
#

make us grind more

#

again

grand trail
#

bro we will need like 400 crest to upgrade everything

lyric gate
#

ppl are still exhausted from farming cyclet quest

grand trail
#

thats grind enmough

lyric gate
#

what you mean

royal lantern
#

more

#

and remove dinars

#

just grind

grand trail
#

mooooreeeeeeeeeeeee

nova aspen
#

surprise gamers! circlet can now be upgraded to 684! back to the island!

lyric gate
#

imagine

grand trail
#

ahahahha

royal lantern
#

BASED

grand trail
#

i already dropped circlet

#

leave me with that shit

lyric gate
#

bro has 800 item level

#

already

#

i cant

hidden bay
#

doesnt matter if 26 or not

#

if its less

#

I STILL RUN 26

#

JUST TO PROVE A POINT

lyric gate
#

kek

#

im working on keystone challenger here

#

since 8 weeks

#

help me out

normal mist
#

press your abilites harder

grand trail
#

i dont even know what does it mean

hidden bay
#

you are 673

#

you tool

#

how cant you have it done

lyric gate
#

tell me

#

im just buying boost runs on mobafire

normal mist
#

oh

#

yeah you'll eventually get it

#

trust the process

grand trail
#

i asked whats the tech on galliwix and was told "just hit the boss" so i did and secured R1 on first kill 😄

lyric gate
#

lets swap raid spots

lyric gate
#

raid leader alwyays find some shit i have to do

normal mist
#

You gotta prove them that you're worth more on the boss than doing mechs

lyric gate
#

got bullied on bandit

#

for add damage

#

was playing trickster

#

KEk

#

i cant

grand trail
#

same

nova aspen
#

im starting bandit prog tonight

#

cant wait to hear "malarki do more add damage"

grand trail
#

i did 180 pulls on mugze as normal person, than i was assignet to all cages as voidelf assa rogue for kill 😄

nova aspen
#

"malarki where is ur add damage"

fast phoenix
#

Seeing 6 million dps on stix is fun

lyric gate
#

first your raid has to figure out how to dodge swirlys

#

trust me

#

outlaw top dps on stix

#

icant

restive glade
#

I think I know answer but want to check
4mins in vexie and 3 bikes till armor off

mark n kb up, wait 50sec armor go away or rip mark + kb. Bc I waited 50sec only got 2 full burst in instead 3

loud light
#

I'm confused by your timing. Is your raid delaying the first breakdown to line up better with 2m CDs? That's the only way to get really good timings on the fight

vast shuttle
#

what do u guys do when u hit 3k rating i dont rlly see the point of playing when u hit it

coral ibex
#

ok so stop logging in

#

you’re not forced to

normal mist
#

Tell me nooj is annoyed without telling me nooj is annoyed

cinder geode
vast shuttle
cinder geode
#

Once you’re 684ilvl and title m+ that’s when the game starts

#

The true endgame is getting achievements and then acting annoyed at others in class discords

vast shuttle
cinder geode
#

Get a 2nd rogue and gear it up

#

Get the rank 1 and 2 parse

runic hinge
#

Farm transmog. Do every quest in the game. Get mounts.

#

There’s more to world of Warcraft than io

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

Ilvl is just a tool to speed up transmog runs

drifting cloud
#

wheres the IO version of the nerfed boss pasta

haughty flicker
#

Nothing else matters

vast shuttle
#

and im alone

balmy condor
vast shuttle
#

pugging

#

its gg

normal mist
#

You can also stop playing

vast shuttle
#

hell nawww ok i get rank 1 np

drifting cloud
iron vapor
#

Roll an alt?

#

Or like, I dunno, touch grass for a little while?

haughty flicker
#

That sounds scary

balmy condor
#

I have a grass allergy

#

literally a microaggression bro wtf

haughty flicker
#

Attempted murder more like

#

Get him out of here

zenith smelt
#

When you play mytic+ and everyone nukes the priotarget so hard that you need to start over again with geting your splatter to a difrent target that then dies. How do you even do damage then?

iron vapor
#

I can do macroaggression too, I'm multitalented

haughty flicker
arctic socket
sonic zinc
#

play bleed build and snipe every kill with sudden demise

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

couldn't be me

arctic socket
#

Reid?

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

he's not gay

gusty mirage
#

He dropped the government name

balmy condor
#

(I checked)

#

(many times)

gusty mirage
arctic socket
#

Idk

#

I can post some pretty sus stuff

#

He’s done

zenith smelt
#

And what about singel target i feel like we are hiting like a wet mop on pure singeltarget?

balmy condor
#

you swap specs

sonic zinc
#

thats just sin

balmy condor
arctic socket
#

Whispyr I’m kinda sad I sent you a GOATED message from him and you never responded

pliant remnant
#

don't swap specs

#

just play zeross build

balmy condor
#

he just said his prio target is dying

#

zeross build might be worst idea I could come up for the poor guy

pliant remnant
#

oh

#

pick another prio target then

arctic socket
#

Just play anything you want to in this meme season and enjoy yourself kannaburn

lyric gate
#

what is zeross build

pliant remnant
#

ez ez

lyric gate
#

depends on dungeon

#

i guess

#

i play supercharger in rookery and work

#

also theatre

balmy condor
#

I have it listed here

arctic socket
#

I play what ever wowhead says

#

And brain rot

balmy condor
#

cause it's really just in the spirit of cleave build of old

west crown
#

it actually is just cleave tho never realized

balmy condor
#

I mean not quite

warm vortex
#

Remind me for the crest discount do you need 675 in every slot?

coral ibex
#

no just average ilvl

lyric gate
#

the cleave one looks fire tho

#

xd

slate crown
fleet pagoda
#

didn't cleave take AP and not CT? monkahmm it's like the opposite of cleave build

balmy condor
#

it would've been like true cleave if all the red talents were green instead

#

but it's the same concept

#

you just can't drop scent

#

because well

#

it's scent

warm vortex
#

I didn't get the crest achivement thing

coral ibex
#

relog

warm vortex
#

And i just hit 675

lyric gate
#

classic bm brain

#

dont understand shit

warm vortex
#

How was i supposed to know lmao

lyric gate
#

you need 675 in every slot

inland escarp
#

There was a blue post to relog in dorn

lyric gate
#

not 675 ilvl

balmy condor
#

but like it doesn't take zold/arterial, but it's basically same thing

pliant remnant
#

Yes, be mean to him!

#

Spit on him!

#

For playing BM and not MM!

coral ibex
pliant remnant
coral ibex
#

if you're gonna be a prick

#

at least by right

warm vortex
#

?

coral ibex
#

i got the achievement without 675 every slot

#

so maybe before you pop off

#

and think ur hot shit

#

actually know what ur talking about

lyric gate
#

bro

#

someone hurt your feelings or what

royal lantern
#

make out

#

both of you

warm vortex
#

True yea

#

lets all kiss

coral ibex
#

dont be mean to ven

balmy condor
#

classic churki brain

lyric gate
#

icant

buoyant herald
#

they changed it this season yeah

lyric gate
#

gettin bullied by hunters in guild

#

now on rogue discord

#

where to hide

pliant remnant
#

Somebody ban Whispyr, he's instigating

#

WEEOO WEEOO

arctic socket
#

You’re down bad if you’re being bullied by hunters

balmy condor
#

say dumb shit, get hit

arctic socket
#

That’s crazy

lyric gate
#

kek

#

i cant sim more then 2.4

lyric gate
#

= gettin bullied

real siren
#

what weak aura package do you guys recommend using on the wowhead guide?

hidden bay
#

the one from whispyr has a gold drainer monkaW

humble verge
#

most probably use luxthos

warm vortex
#

I'd say just

#

Look through them all

#

And see what one you like the most

humble verge
#

tho i think my private WA is based off afenor

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
#

It's a very opinion based thing, and theres no downside to just trying them all out

real siren
#

oh nice a command 😄

humble verge
#

afenar* i mean

real siren
#

and there's more options

warm vortex
#

So take a look at them, fiddle around with them, just see what you do

#

Yuh

#

Shoutout to moroes

#

!vibes

#

Fuck it doesn't work here

real siren
#

appreciate you guys ❤️

warm vortex
#

Nvm fuck you moroes

real siren
haughty flicker
#

Whispyrs wa group is a crypto miner so I wouldn’t use that one

warm vortex
#

Yea

real siren
#

also just found this video too which already looks better than the first one I found

warm vortex
#

Wowhead hasn't been paying him enough

humble verge
#

whispyr is a crypto

#

he just doenst know

warm vortex
#

crypspyr

humble verge
#

invest in $WHISP

warm vortex
#

No that doens't work

#

Whispyo

#

Yea sure

grim jay
real siren
#

nice already liking the first one a lot on the wa list

#

looks similar to my druid one

haughty flicker
#

Rip the crypto miner got him

humble verge
#

mine is just a more HQ luxthos ver :3

grim jay
#

mine is just whispyrs slightly modified

#

gotta show support to the boy

lyric gate
#

looks ass

#

just play without add ons like me

humble verge
#

idk, it has pretty much everything i need

humble verge
grim jay
#

but its still luxthos

humble verge
#

idk

lyric gate
#

i dont like it

humble verge
#

i cant seem to like afenar

#

ive always ran luxthos

#

on most of my chars

lyric gate
#

i have my own its pretta ugly

#

but its minimalistc as fuck

humble verge
#

dont really need a WA group anymore, considering they are adding it real soon

#

the cd manager or w/e

#

or is it added? im not even following the updates

balmy condor
#

its added

#

but it's kinda shit

humble verge
#

yea

lyric gate
#

i dont like it when you see the shiv uptime on the same button then the cd / charge

royal lantern
humble verge
#

i prefer that icl

lyric gate
#

the one button rotation gonna be a gamechanger guys

#

nobody knew about the poisoned knife

humble verge
#

free poisoned knife gameplay

lyric gate
#

also in this trash guide from rank 1 player

#

no poisoned knife

#

sus

balmy condor
#

god if only I was rank 1

humble verge
#

so do i

lyric gate
#

what rank are you

balmy condor
#

maybe people would stop flaming every breath I take

lyric gate
#

i dropped hard

humble verge
#

youre r1 in my heart whisp

lyric gate
#

from 70

#

to 100 something

balmy condor
#

I mean how are we counting rank

humble verge
#

you guys push keys?

lyric gate
#

region

balmy condor
#

yah but rank of what

runic hinge
#

69

lyric gate
#

m+

runic hinge
#

In my heart

balmy condor
#

oh

#

I'm cooked

humble verge
#

i was 78 in EU last tier

balmy condor
#

erm

runic hinge
#

Need your tank to fail a piss test again

balmy condor
#

rank by region............

#

776

#

poggers

lyric gate
#

sadge

#

is zeross zerocool

balmy condor
#

no but it is a great meme

lyric gate
#

🤣

humble verge
#

zerocool is just the worse zeross

#

amirite

spice spire
#

Zerosscool when

#

Let’s just full send er

final star
#

"Our guild is US rank 100" - World rank 400

#

😏

lyric gate
#

i dropped to 130

iron carbon
#

Whispyr, you're not high ranked but you stay the goat of my heart

lyric gate
#

kekerino

spice spire
final star
balmy condor
spice spire
#

Four eels

final star
#

Gonna do Bandersnatch before it goes on Monday SAD

lyric gate
#

i opened yesterday on add on mythic bandit

#

i cant

spice spire
#

What in the primordial American did you just say to me kieron

final star
#

Black Mirror interactive episode

#

Netflix are removing it

lyric gate
#

aug is back

inland dirge
balmy condor
#

god fuck

#

no you didn't

inland dirge
balmy condor
inland dirge
balmy condor
#

you piece of shit

inland dirge
#

i didn't even want to