assassination

[balmy condor]

I'd never play that shit ass build

[runic hinge]

You should tho

Just to flex on the haters

[gray sleet]

So the damage of this build comes from Spatter and envenoms?

so if things die faster you are fucked?

[coral ibex]

correct

[unreal tide]

got it with the nerf today too but aint no parsing allowed

[lethal arrow]

yeah parsing is COOKED

i went from a 97 on a 2%

to 64 on a kill

[balmy condor]

[coral ibex]

our dh tank just jumped out of the map on oab

mid pull

insane tech

[stable cove]

Should vanish be used for death stalker if you have dn proc up? I’m guessing the answer is no? So then you just vanish when no dn or stalker stacks? Talking ab raid

[lethal arrow]

i dont even vanish mid pull anymore

unless its do something like drop OAB bomb fixates

[coral ibex]

you only vanish to reapply marks if they drop/you lose DN

in raid

unless you play MA

[stable cove]

Ok bet Ty

[unreal tide]

i landed i think under 10, we held damage for the last bombs + add wave so I knew it was cooked for any parse but glad it's dead that boss is annoying

[cosmic robin]

Bleed Build favours more crit than mastery, right? (I know, sim yourself.)

[balmy condor]

no

it does not

[worthy rose]

im 100% sure bleed will want more mastery

[unreal tide]

haste to the moon, never energy starved again

[lethal arrow]

yeah we held 2 minutes before p2

and sent them on p2

its so jank after the nerfs

[worthy rose]

all stats are good stats tho but mastery a bit more favoured

with crit second

[unreal tide]

yeah we held all damage lol

[lethal arrow]

doing TOO much dmg

[cosmic robin]

Then wowhead guide was lying to me

[coral ibex]

you sure

[coral ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172832306793287730/1369521439220437064/image.png?ex=681c29bb&is=681ad83b&hm=1af1ad7351dd6222cafbcefed3dd89dbd6db3d44d63f413289f7041914c1dae4&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1037&height=577

[obsidian walrus]

/wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[worthy rose]

actually

why is crit ranked so high up

@balmy condor this is from your own guide

LOL

surely mastery is a bit more important

this line does refer to mastery tho

[balmy condor]

they're equal for the most part but I guess I can flip the order if it's confusing

[balmy condor]

this is compared to fatebound

[worthy rose]

yeah

but fatebound is trolling and inting

we dont speak of garbage

[balmy condor]

you're on the fucking hero talent page?

[worthy rose]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/stat-priority-pve-dps

stat priority page

[balmy condor]

sure

same thign

it's comparing the hero talents

but its okay

I can flip

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/back-flip-fresh-prince-carlton-dance-dancing-gif-10362084

[runic hinge]

Only stat I prio is @drifting cloud’s love

[worthy rose]

same but whispyrs love for me

[cerulean nest]

im assigned to soak the venn diagram of the fused canisters on gally. is feint + evasion w/ bait and switch enough to be fine there?

[odd heath]

Feint is enough

[cerulean nest]

sweet ty

[balmy condor]

@hidden bay @inland dirge its okay, we didn't kill

too much p2 trolling

[hidden bay]

Yea dude

[inland dirge]

[balmy condor]

I'm in my feels

[hidden bay]

This makes me very upset that you didn’t kill

How am I supposed to sleep now

[balmy condor]

I'll come tuck you in

[haughty flicker]

me first

[hidden bay]

A voice msg saying “sorry pookiebear” via dm is fine

[balmy condor]

shut up bel

[hidden bay]

[balmy condor]

more legion mules

[clever sparrow]

no idea non of these looks useful

[haughty flicker]

i dont know if i can get to sleep after the terrorism the ranged in my guild put me through

fuck sprocket

[balmy condor]

a socket is always useful

[clever sparrow]

does it makes much difference?

[haughty flicker]

only mechanic is hoping your ranged dont drop a drill on your or fuckign suicide bomb you with polarity

[hidden bay]

Are you playing fate bound atleast?

[haughty flicker]

yes actually

[hidden bay]

Based

[clever sparrow]

WTF!

[balmy condor]

+200 stats idk

[balmy condor]

EU vault moment

[hidden bay]

Mythic Jastor or rik neck otherwise I’ll delete rogue

[balmy condor]

the rich keep riching

[worthy rose]

the shitposter in me would either take the hosue of cards or the dagger

assuming you dont have a good trinket or mainhand

otherwise yolo

[balmy condor]

why is that the shitposter in you that's genuinely good advice

[balmy condor]

[worthy rose]

because when have i been one to give good advice

[clever sparrow]

is HOS better than signet?

[balmy condor]

wait

[clever sparrow]

( if i get it i only have to use on SUB)

[balmy condor]

you don't have a myth dagger

[worthy rose]

heroic hoc is like 0.2% better but not too much difference

[balmy condor]

why the hell aren't you just snaptaking the dagger?

[radiant otter]

you got a myth track dagger man

[worthy rose]

mythic hoc and signet are neck and neck

basically the same

if you dont have a mythic 678 dagger

always dagger

[coral ibex]

can't make it up

[clever sparrow]

does it make so much difference? didnt knwo that

[hidden bay]

[clever sparrow]

since the stats wasnt even good

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/british-chewsday-beans-beans-on-toast-innit-gif-21451189

[balmy condor]

does my weapon matter for damage

[clever sparrow]

haste versa

[balmy condor]

who gives a fuck

[inland dirge]

he is on strike with me

[balmy condor]

it's +3 ilvl

[coral ibex]

b r u h

[turbid gust]

ilvl is king

[hidden bay]

Fair Point

[clever sparrow]

(my own dagger is hero 6/6) its probably more than 3

[inland dirge]

DAGGERWATCH DAY 63

[balmy condor]

it's 3?

[bright tartan]

This game is rigged

[worthy rose]

for mainhand you always want highest ilvl you can get

[clever sparrow]

look at my offhand

😄

[balmy condor]

okay

[worthy rose]

its your offhand stat stick that you need to worry about stats for

[clever sparrow]

i can swap

[cunning needle]

no shot youre still on bandit

[balmy condor]

but why would you put it in your offhand

?

[worthy rose]

in the words of wise whispyr

[balmy condor]

what the hell is happening

[worthy rose]

always highest ilvl in mainhand

[balmy condor]

is this a fever dream

[worthy rose]

are you shitposting right now

did you just bait us all in

[clever sparrow]

(i can put my crafted one in the off hand tho)

[worthy rose]

fuck

[balmy condor]

YES

THAT IS

[worthy rose]

he was too good @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

THE POINT

[worthy rose]

he got me too

[bright tartan]

hi wispor my tank chainpulls is he bad

[clever sparrow]

somethng line this

[worthy rose]

offhand doesnt really matter for dps

always put the best weapon in mainhand

[balmy condor]

[hidden bay]

[worthy rose]

take dagger and max it out 678

[cunning needle]

what the flying fuck

[worthy rose]

and youll be good to go

[worthy rose]

nah its a myth track

he just hasto upgrade it

[clever sparrow]

whats wronggg 😭

[worthy rose]

all your abilites and spells are calculated off the damge of your mainhand

youre actually trolling if you put the best dagger in offhand

[clever sparrow]

okay hold on

[balmy condor]

someone crush up 3 adderall into some cough syrup and stir in a gram of fentanyl

[balmy condor]

I need to see god

[clever sparrow]

good?

[worthy rose]

whispy hit is fent arc now

[balmy condor]

I can't take it here anymore

[worthy rose]

look what youve done

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[radiant otter]

take the dagger, upgrade it to 678, put it in your mh, put crafted in oh. hope that helps

[clever sparrow]

okay okay im sorry

[worthy rose]

holy shit what the fuck

youre more geared than i am

[golden loom]

Back 2 back socket weeks

[balmy condor]

3 more ilvl bud

[clever sparrow]

wanna see my outlaw?

[balmy condor]

hit it one more time

[worthy rose]

get them gilded

678 it

pog

[clever sparrow]

have to get the gilded

[coral ibex]

wait did you kill tho

[balmy condor]

convert your runed?

[coral ibex]

my raid starts 1h after yours

[balmy condor]

no

[clever sparrow]

is it possible?

[balmy condor]

IS IT POSSIBLE

[haughty flicker]

just kill the boss?

[worthy rose]

nah hes gotta be shitposting rn

theres no way

[balmy condor]

the vendors are right next to each other

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor look what I must’ve added a few years ago, just noticed it

[cunning needle]

[clever sparrow]

im more geread than most of this server

😄

[haughty flicker]

too bad gear doesnt help reading level

[worthy rose]

i was 669.69 last week

it is the one and only based ilvl

shame im 670.5 now

[haughty flicker]

wait you're only 668

[worthy rose]

prob 671 if i max out my gloves

[haughty flicker]

wtf are you on

[clever sparrow]

(outlaw gear)

[balmy condor]

more geared than the rest of the server at 669, doesn't understand that weapons impact damage, doesn't know your can convert crests by accident if he misclicks a vendor

man fuckj

what are we doing

[haughty flicker]

wait wrong meme

https://imgur.com/1nUZrGo

there we go

[clever sparrow]

tbh i grinded everything 😄

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/red-alert-c%26c-tim-curry-trying-not-to-laugh-funny-gif-12411782975325520978

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-21510495

[clever sparrow]

always been on cap of crests

[golden loom]

man fk I have to put the socket into my crafted helm

[bright tartan]

we are playing World of Warcraft

[cunning needle]

we are living in a society

[bright tartan]

and are getting a 1 button rotation to further enhance such experience

[clever sparrow]

now its working

[turbid gust]

far from best geared yet tho. u miss like 4 tier mythic pieces 😄

[worthy rose]

only mythic raiders have that luxury

mythic dungeoner heathens like me gotta make do with what we got

[boreal hollow]

does anyone has a Lingering Darkness tracking weakaura

[balmy condor]

most every wa does yeh

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[boreal hollow]

that doesnt is inside a compleate

[balmy condor]

can steal from one of these

just rip it out

drop it into yours

resize

gg

OR

HEAR ME OUT RIGHT

[cunning needle]

no i dont want to listen

[clever sparrow]

yeah tbh no luck on vaults for pieces 😄

• my guild is lazy on raiding stuck on first boss

[balmy condor]

watch this technology

[boreal hollow]

let them cook

[balmy condor]

I don't think you want me to cook on this one, cause it's your ass I'm cooking

[boreal hollow]

damn

i use atrocity wa

but doenst have the LD track rip

[sharp viper]

with a gram of fentanyl you're gonna pay him a permanent visit

[hot pasture]

when u use magnet trinket?

[sharp viper]

ideally during lingering darkness and whenever else your target has max stacks

[balmy condor]

once during lingering darkness every 2 min

[hidden bay]

Never, grab something else

[prisma carbon]

latest update has lingering darkness tracker

[balmy condor]

you're telling me his wa pack has it and he just hasn't updated in like 25 years

[sharp viper]

does it stack up this slowly? I don't have it so no clue

[balmy condor]

3 min yeh

10 stacks a min, 30 stacks max

[sharp viper]

fuck that is slow

[hidden bay]

I like it slow

[runic hinge]

3 minutes is actually a very long time

Like so long

[balmy condor]

magnet is just a reading comprehension test shaped like a 2 min trinket

[runic hinge]

Some people would say that’s too long

[sharp viper]

thank you for alienating 99% of the player base, you elitist

[balmy condor]

mb king

[sharp viper]

way to show off here, mister endurance

[winged sun]

omgomg im doing +10 keys but i see rogue do 1000m dps in +20 i have to copy everythingg !!

[sullen mural]

should have just taken gold from my vaul

[balmy condor]

[runic hinge]

Real

[balmy condor]

1000m dps?

give tech please

[winged sun]

True and real no cap no cap

[balmy condor]

sims are bad and wrong I will play your build no question

please please please

[sharp viper]

soon enough you'll be able to do +11s, I believe in you

[winged sun]

Have to run 30% vers!

30% more dmg

Thats how it is

[golden loom]

You get more crests if you time the 10 rather than deplet it so I need big damage!!!!!!!!!!

[sullen mural]

you might be cooking

[solar wyvern]

Hey you, noticed u did 30 mil on first pull with Dashing build

Are u simply just built diffy

[winged sun]

idk i just spam envenoms

[solar wyvern]

My envenoms dont slap that hard

😦

[winged sun]

Wish i streamed our test runs idk how much i managed to hit

[balmy condor]

true I open murlok io and see rogue vers

so vers > mast

[winged sun]

Real

[wise gull]

Is best bet for guild apping just shopping around on WCL?

For when we're done with gally

[solar wyvern]

I think i see where i am losing damage

i think i rupture too much

its really just 2 ruptures for 5 stacks and blast envenom huh

[winged sun]

Wait

Ur spreading more than 2 or what

Cant do that on a 30 mob pull

[haughty flicker]

apply to liquid and echo first

then just go down the list

[bright tartan]

Why it’s murkok io and not mugzee io

[solar wyvern]

I would spread a third rupture for all 3 muscles but ig thats just troll af

[winged sun]

Its not troll

[wise gull]

that's kind of my plan but starting at like 150 lmao

[solar wyvern]

sometimes IC just doesnt wanna proc on them

[winged sun]

I just don’t do it because 1 mainly has to die on 19 or we sipe

Wipe*

And the cleave i dont suspect it to be bad either

[solar wyvern]

still im just comparing logs here and you get 4 more enveoms than i do in over the fight

[winged sun]

My best dps would be on a 18 not a 19, i cant risk nuking the shit out of the pull otherwise i may get aggro

[solar wyvern]

well over the lust window

[sharp viper]

best resource for pve builds

[winged sun]

I suspect that 35-40m is possible

Especially with the subterfuge build

[solar wyvern]

yeah i do significantly better on that pull with hybrid subt but idk even know if thats truly the play

Like your boss dps suiffers :/

[winged sun]

Idk

Subterfuge does better boss dmg on ipa i think

But it lacks on everywhere else

[solar wyvern]

is that even true tho? like yeah you got bigger deathmarks but you

lose ttk value with funnel dps

also holy verse lmfao 17800

[winged sun]

Subterfuge will easy do way more ye

[solar wyvern]

i assume u play mast flask for signet

[winged sun]

Not even a question imo

[solar wyvern]

hmm maybe im just undervaluing the power of MA on funnel

[winged sun]

Actually not, im in need of the super high vers for cinderbrew

[solar wyvern]

Oh so you just have your signet give u versa?

cool

[winged sun]

That dungeon is straight up hell on 19

[clever sparrow]

is cinderbrew still painful even with 25% vers?

[winged sun]

U cant live at all

[solar wyvern]

i'd believe it, one shredding sting and you're floorpov

[winged sun]

Its mostly 1st pull

I was dying to anything with feint up

Now i can live whatever i take to my face

@solar wyvern i think

I’ll have to shift my stats for different keys

Like i dont think i need vers for ToP

Hard part is only before xav

The arbalests

[earnest remnant]

it does, you just havent been keeping them up to date

[winged sun]

Darkest night should have infinite duration and last through death and changing instances

Its stupid as fuck to deplete a key due to ur mark being lost

Great design

Its not like rogue’s gonna do s1 enh dps with that change

[grand trail]

ez gaming

[winged sun]

Prob wont move dps in sims at all even if u had it pre boss

[clever sparrow]

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESH (you can show it off in your guild chat and make your warriors cry)

[polar rampart]

oh, yeah, is there something i do that removes my mark and stuff? like a notice sometimes i have it rolling, and like i clear it, but it doesnt go to darkest night

[fast phoenix]

Mythic rik feels so awkward as sin sometimes; barrels are annoying

[clever heron]

I feel like I've had that happen to me when the mob dies before the last charge can go off. Not 100% sure though.

[solar wyvern]

When u DN a failed batch and kill it so now you have no hero talent 🙂

[haughty flicker]

thats always so fun

[solar wyvern]

You're probably right about that, playing heavy verse for swampface seems pretty required unless helena is just the goat ig

[haughty flicker]

the best part is they fixed that bug s1 and it came back

[polar rampart]

ahh

it was during crap mobs, at end of rooke, mustve darkest nighted one

[coral ibex]

this fight is so frustrating

ugh

boss dam on our best pull

kill tm for sure

smile

[solar wyvern]

What boss?

[coral ibex]

oab

[solar wyvern]

Ah well its easy to point boss dps when you're playing the boss killer spec

[coral ibex]

easy to point to boss dps when fight ends when boss dies and the adds pose no threat

[solar wyvern]

Show reel assistant dps hehe

[inland dirge]

surely this is the week so i can shut the fuck up about it right

[solar wyvern]

Just trolling u lol

[coral ibex]

all add dam

im bad at filtering on wcl

[spice spire]

No

[inland dirge]

deep down i know you're right

[oak tangle]

started palying rogue last week, did a single 10, EZ

[cunning oxide]

Yes please

[inland dirge]

smiling through it all!

[haughty flicker]

why dont you just have him drop the dagger

hes dropped two for me already

doesnt seem very hard idk

[cunning needle]

[inland dirge]

seventh time's the charm as they say

[gilded oasis]

crazy i can just look up your name and guild and see all those redacted names huh?

[clever sparrow]

me after opening vault:

[summer remnant]

Sim telling me to replace circlet with myth jastor instead of my other ring, nothing weird right just shut up and trust the sim?

[balmy condor]

ye, just double check the circlet gems and sim some non-mastery off-pieces

like recraft stuff crit/haste or whatever

circlet is basically 90% mastery and so is jastor

so you gotta get rid of it in other places or else the your gear is insanely lopsided

[haughty flicker]

but wowhead says mastery is our best stat

[balmy condor]

wrong actually

it says agility is our best stat literally everywhere

[summer remnant]

ill do that ty

[haughty flicker]

i wouldnt know

since idk how to read

[worthy rose]

Always agility first

[cunning needle]

i thought its int first

thats why we use int daggers

[haughty flicker]

nerds acting like they can read then recommending agi over int

[unreal parcel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cinder geode]

Is cyrces replaced with the +6 ilvls on rings? I'm deciding between crafting cloak or ring, will just go cloak if Cyrces is still competitive

[grim jay]

You could kinda.. Whats it called

Sim it?

Iirc

[manic anvil]

I should ensure max rupture stacks at all times in AoE?

[grim jay]

If there are enough enemies, yes

[manic anvil]

Does it matter if I envenom before or after?

[grim jay]

Spreading rupture has higher priority

Envenom has nothing to do with rupture or much with aoe

Caustic aside

[manic anvil]

Understood, thanks!

[cunning needle]

isnt it keep 5 ruptures?

or do you mean max = 5

[grim jay]

That was his question, what to do if he doesnt have Max stacks

[cunning needle]

👍

[grim jay]

Also with bleed you potentially want more than 5

[cunning needle]

brain translated that to max = max mobs

[fierce sigil]

HEy guys,
do we use Algari Mana Oil in M+ or Ironclaw Whetstone?

[balmy condor]

whichever you prefer

won't make much of a difference either way

[subtle tundra]

jusat say one of them

stop these vague answers

you WILL get touched

[balmy condor]

fuck you varas they're equal, the fuck do you want from me

[subtle tundra]

i dont believe you anyways

wax?

[fierce sigil]

Ok ty!

[grim jay]

Wouldnt it be best to use one of each then?

For diversity

Big topic in 2025

[balmy condor]

DEI is banned I heard

[grim jay]

Whats DEI

Wait is that a trap?

[balmy condor]

die ente irgendwas

lustiger witz

[novel star]

diversity equity and inclusion or some shit

[worthy rose]

Where’s the diversity of assassination builds

[grim jay]

Im too old for those

[worthy rose]

There’s only two builds

You either bleed or u don’t

[balmy condor]

you're too old for equity?

and inclusion?

[grim jay]

Yeah I just love everyone

[balmy condor]

[worthy rose]

Alright time to take away his rights

He only has lefts now

No mainhand for u

[balmy condor]

this is equity

[grim jay]

Damn I'm just a natural at that stuff

But it might be my german blood

We all love everyone

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

That one guy wasnt german

Real struggle tho:
If I toast my toasts in my toaster at home, how do I get them to work without them getting soggy?

[balmy condor]

vacu-seal

[ebon glen]

Leave them in the toaster but take the toaster with you

[worthy rose]

The real question what is a zoldyck

[grim jay]

A dyck that measures one zol

Talent and assassin family in hxh, if you are fr

[red schooner]

Bring toaster to work

[grim jay]

Doesnt that still make them soggy?

[balmy condor]

okay new idea

buy a dehydrator

toast the toast

then dehydrate the toast

[grim jay]

And then vacu seal?

[balmy condor]

exacto

[grim jay]

Hell no

[grim jay]

Might need to make that work

Nothing is more annoying than soggy toasts

I could also just buy sandwiches at our bakery for 3 Euro a piece

[red schooner]

Why does your work not have a toaster? There's a toaster in the kitchen at my office

[balmy condor]

local german man says uncurable brain cancer affecting predominantly children is not as annoying as a slightly less toasted sandwich

[quiet oar]

Toast the toast at work

[balmy condor]

more news at 10

[grim jay]

We have 3, but one is too far away and the other 2 dont look like I want to put my food in

[grim jay]

Bro thats

I mean

[red schooner]

Just take the walk to the further away toaster then

The fuck

[quiet oar]

Just buy your own Toaster

[grim jay]

It kinda could be interpreted like that, but surely not what I meant

[quiet oar]

Some People have water cooked in their Office

[grim jay]

I already thought about just bringing my own microwave, water cooking pod and toaster tbf

My office my rules

[quiet oar]

Ye

[grim jay]

Gotta show them whats important

[quiet oar]

Im. Not Sure about microwave

[red schooner]

Water cooking pod, is this some translation of kettle that I'm too not German to understand

[grim jay]

Imagine people walking in on you cooking a whole ass dinner in your office

[past marten]

You should microwave some mackerel to show dominance

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[grim jay]

Its Wasserkocher around here, but people used pods to cook water back then

And im old

[grim jay]

I think I would die

Ngl

[merry marten]

Sheesh this almost went very badly 😂

[subtle tundra]

woah so i wont get hired instantly if i tell them im a gypsy?

[grim jay]

I mean, I already picked 2 sockets

[merry marten]

Me too 😂

[quiet oar]

Prolly will today

[subtle tundra]

i picked 1/3rd of a socket today

is that good?

[quiet oar]

Yes

[subtle tundra]

[quiet oar]

I mean i cant get anything from the vault anymore

I have hoc mythic, and we killed it only once and i got hoc in the vault after the kill

[merry marten]

You got an S, A&D are coming soon

[subtle tundra]

WASD?

i dont get Ws here

[grim jay]

Same

[grim jay]

Isnt gypsy a slur

[grim jay]

Could still get a back ig

[golden loom]

my sim really wants me to go crit vers gems in every socket

[subtle tundra]

no, maybe,yes, who knows

[quiet oar]

I have trash Master myth track

Best Thing for sub

[grim jay]

I mean the catalyst back is kinda big aswell

Heavy mastery with vers

[quiet oar]

My sim as sub wants more vers

Too much mastery

[grim jay]

Mine did aswell but having the high vers low mastery oab ring kinda changed it

[golden loom]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ijXqzcnEBoUBNkj8EmhXo9

let it cook I guess

[grim jay]

Dang where did your ilvl go

[quiet oar]

I only have this in heroic

[golden loom]

taken sockets 2 weeks in a row now

[quiet oar]

I also have 673

Its the cursed of getting many items, but low on myth trwck

[grim jay]

I took 2 sockets and still have like 200 gilded left to spend because I didnt really play for 2 weeks

And im 671

[quiet oar]

I have Zero gilded

[subtle tundra]

ii have 0 BITCHES

[quiet oar]

Same

[runic hinge]

We know

[red schooner]

Same, good thing I've got a fucktonne of lesser crests to slam up when the cap is removed

[subtle tundra]

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

[runic hinge]

Love you

[grim jay]

I have one glorious lady, which is why I barely played for 2 weeks.
(but I also have tira, tryan and quake, so really 4)

[quiet oar]

Hello

[grim jay]

I did that already to sustain my absence

[subtle tundra]

a lady and 3 bitches

[runic hinge]

Some people are so wealthy

[red schooner]

I'm so ready

[subtle tundra]

how do i acquire 10 million euros?

id retire instantly

[grim jay]

Win the Euro Jackpot with 12 other people

[grim jay]

Dang you are nuts

[subtle tundra]

ok youre onto something

so gambling

just... win

[red schooner]

Someone's gotta go do that open world content

[quiet oar]

And remember varad

[runic hinge]

Let’s go gambling

[quiet oar]

Every gambler stops right before their big win

[grim jay]

Spend 23 yesterday, didnt win a single cent. Fate must hate me

Smh my head

Or I didnt want it enough

[quiet oar]

I mean

50/50

Either you win

Or you dont

[grim jay]

Ye I'm down bad on the statistics

It must be my turn soon for sure

[quiet oar]

Just Pick the right 50

Smh my head

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/50cent-smile-driving-oh-well-im-out-gif-5135974

[subtle tundra]

i think thats it

you gotta run outta money to want it enough

[quiet oar]

If you didnt lose your house

In the process

Were you even trying?

[grim jay]

Alright then I must decline

I love my house, emotional value

[subtle tundra]

loser mentalityh

the exact reason you wont acquire 10 million euros

[grim jay]

Funfact

If you have a decently sized house and property rn, you might potentially be a millionaire at some point

And most of us are a millionaire in certain countries

[deft dome]

Hey! I just analyzed my gameplay and looks like I'm wasting 20-30% of my combo points. Anyone has any idea on how to improve this? I have a default WeakAura from Luxoft and the regular combo point UI, but still, I'm not pressing the right buttons on tense situations

[tawdry halo]

Practice on dummies until it’s second nature

[royal lantern]

are you finishing at 5+

[tawdry halo]

And finish on 5+ (7 with darkest night)

[deft dome]

on dummies works well, on real fights I'm panicking I think

Probably I have to create some custom weakaura to scream at me that I have 5+ cp

or some audio maybe

is that possible in a WA?

[tawdry halo]

I mean yeah you can

But like, no need to panic

what situations are you panicking in?

[grim jay]

I hope it will be some Anime uwu girl voice with "finish quick, daddy"

On a different note, just get used to it

I doubt you will react to the WA fast enough if you really are panicking

[tawdry halo]

but probably, yes

[polar rampart]

im pretty sure whispyr says circlet is = to like a 700 ilvl ring

[last moth]

What whould you take ? The Trinket got movementspeed and the Belt leech, but when im right i can buy the trinket next week on Myth track or nor ?

[subtle tundra]

out of 5 items, 4 have words that dont fit
german masterclass

[last moth]

xD 😄

[worthy rose]

i dont know about your current gear istuation

but the importance of gear is always mainhand first

then trinkets second

then off hand after you got those 3 all sorted

and after that its mainpieces over offpieces

head chest legs > hands shoulders etc

[worthy rose]

is that a mythic seaforium you arleady have

[last moth]

nop

[gloomy heart]

heroic

fuck it take the trinket

you can buy whatever you want next week

[last moth]

i can also but the belt next week ?

[worthy rose]

then take the mythic seaforium trinket

hands down

no discussion

you will rpobably end up crafting all your offpieces with correct substats

[gloomy heart]

yeah i wouldn’t take a belt over trinket

[worthy rose]

necklace bracers boots belt etc

can all be crafted

[last moth]

allright thanks

[worthy rose]

i would not put any thought into offpieces at this stage

yeah

coz keep in mind we arent even halfway throught he season yet

you will be swimming in excess gilded sooner or later

thats when you start crafting offpieces at 60gilded per whatever it is to craft gear at 675

priority always mainhand > trinket > trinket > offhand > everything else

and in that everything else its head/chest/legs > hands/shoulders > necklace/belt/boots/rings

[last moth]

Thanks for the help and your opinion my friend

[fierce oracle]

Does spatter double dip on chaos brand, and by extension does spatter > fatal intent triple dip?

[golden loom]

well offhand should be below a tabard and shirt

useless slot

[worthy rose]

you do it for the flex

and memes

[gray briar]

question about haste stat,
i have 3 % haste (2200 points) which feels far to less for me

speaking ONLY for m+ (i dont do raid)

shouldnt i at least go for ~6-7%

Haste increases the tickrate for poisons right?

[golden loom]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[lyric vale]

!aids

[rotund jungle]

Dude .....next week u can buy the trinket ^^ Belt u cant buy

I always see it like " what piece can i get where?" and from now on u CANT get the Belt anywhere except in the Vault

the Trinket u can just buy next week

if u took Trinket now .....what u take from first Dinar?

@last moth

[last moth]

So its better to take belt now and trinket next week

[rotund jungle]

IF u can fight the feeling not taking the Trinket ^^

Look....what will u tae with Dinars next week ?

if u take Trinket now

PS: u got every key in 12 done right? @last moth

[last moth]

Yes

[rotund jungle]

i am in the same spot as u, i only need Priory Belt and hand ( u needed Sea, Chest Belt)

[red schooner]

Finishing my last 4 12s this week is the goal, my lack of willingness to push is finally coming back to bite me

[subtle tundra]

ill take it up the bum with the first dinner

or did i misunderstand

[solar wyvern]

If you have any intention of multispecing into say, outlaw for mugzee weapon or sub for house if cards, holding a dinar and taking trinket may be ideal

Since you likely want a jastor

[rotund jungle]

the perfect Thing for u in my opinion is to Take the Belt now ...its BIS with leech and Next week buy trinket with Dinar....its only my opinion u would get the most value out of it i think

@last moth what would u take with Dinars if u take Trinket now?

[solar wyvern]

Just consider 3 items that just may never appear again

[golden loom]

I mean u can always craft a belt

or use any other belt

[solar wyvern]

Dawn thread is good, Mugzee belt isn't bad in raid, cauldron belt is good

But idk how much loot you will get from playing the season so its a bit hard to make an informed recommendation

[golden loom]

also writhing band 😎

[crisp ridge]

With max upgrades for myth going up, are we still gonna be using Cyrice ring?

[rotund jungle]

The best Value is Belt and trinket Dinar ........u cant say anything else ^^

[grim jay]

Eww

[rotund jungle]

AND he cant take something else with dinars he got nothing left

[solar wyvern]

If he purely plays assa i agree

[grim jay]

Sim

[rotund jungle]

True

[golden loom]

😦

[solar wyvern]

Too many good dinar items, signet, hoc, seaforium, mugzee weapon, gally weapon, jastor

Im lucky with myth hoc, Priory and seaforium already but I'd hate mulling that choice over haha

[rotund jungle]

i was in the same spot today and i got priory Caldron Belt and myth Hands ....i will Take priory today, buy hands with Dinar and Craft Belt ^^

[grim jay]

Also, the guide has an answer aswell if you cant sim.

[solar wyvern]

Idk if dinar will have belt/hands/etc

[grim jay]

Ewwww

[solar wyvern]

May just be weapons, rares, trinkets

[rotund jungle]

they dont

[golden loom]

what about this badboy

[grim jay]

Has no writhing so you get my like

I kinda dont like ascendance

Same with threads

[golden loom]

I only care about raid

[crisp ridge]

I can but sims don't allow for upgrades > 678 currently, but I'll doublecheck guide

[grim jay]

I dont like the way it works in general, but ye its less of an issue in raid

[sick radish]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rain coral]

is it next week that the ilvl cap goes to 681?

and also no more cap limit for gilded crest?

[red schooner]

Yup, not sure about what ilvl we go up to though

[rotund jungle]

2 upgrades

[main plover]

anyone knows if the junkmaestro + lingering darkness interaction is still a thing?

[rain coral]

two upgrades would mean 6 item level extra i guess

[main plover]

myth track items get 7 ilvl, 678->685

[rain coral]

is there also a nerf to the M+ dungs coming?

[rain coral]

is this valid?

[golden loom]

684

[rain coral]

ah sry true

i meant the crafted items

[golden loom]

crafted 681

[rain coral]

from 675 to 681

[main plover]

im very certain it was 685, but maybe im misinformed

[rain coral]

how will this work ?

[golden loom]

I mean its 3 ilvls per track step

[rain coral]

regulary with gilded crest?

[golden loom]

and it goes from 6/6 to 8/8

[rain coral]

yy

[main plover]

some steps are 4 ilvl

see 671->675 from 4 to 5 myth track

[golden loom]

[rain coral]

i think its the only step that gets 4 ilvl

[golden loom]

its not from 671

its from 672

[main plover]

am i dumb

i know theres 4 from 658 to 662 tho fs

[rain coral]

no its from 671

[main plover]

theres multiple

[golden loom]

ah I guess ur right here

[rain coral]

oh

true

[golden loom]

thats so strange tho wtf

[plush umbra]

it's because blizzard wants to have 13 ilvl differences between tiers, a season has been an increase of a multiple of 13 ilvls since shadowlands

[rain coral]

and to 684 with gilded crest?

[past marten]

imma lose my mind soon

[plush umbra]

and 13 isn't really divisible by anything, so it turns into 3-3-3-4 upgrades

[rain coral]

y but last season was not the case

[plush umbra]

last season to this season was a 39 ilvl increase

so a multiple of 13

[main plover]

678-639 do be 39

[past marten]

Wouldn't be surprised if they artificially increased the ilvl for S3

to counteract their turbo boost stuff

[jagged wind]

has anyone ran the simms that will the crafted ring go over circlet after they buff to the ilvl next week?

[royal lantern]

iirc we get a squish in midnight anyway, so w/e

[balmy condor]

some will some wont

[normal mist]

Such is life

[main plover]

does anyone know if junkmaestro trinket interacts with any other talents besides lingering

like caustic or smth

[balmy condor]

no

it does not

[main plover]

peak blizzard

[balmy condor]

lingering's bugged, what can you do

[undone flame]

So is the turbo week gonna give us higer ilvl i we're thinking it was just crest

[main plover]

both

[red schooner]

Surely with the turbo boost my guild can kill the next few bosses

(we won't)

[jagged wind]

no! the team is always the enemy 😄

[short tangle]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[humble verge]

well, looks like we get a 678 ring this week

which i already have in 658

[grizzled elk]

Quick question on simulation, sub sims higher than assa for me. Besides items i need to recraft, is the effect of zoldyck even working in sims?

[balmy condor]

yes, sub just sims higher

[brazen sluice]

MAN FK THIS CORRUPTED FKING FKED UP BLIZZARD COMPANY , our raid 1 killed gally yday and they didint get the hall of fame , when we asked blizzard their answer and i quote '' it was after NA reset '' WE R FKING EU WHY THE FK LINK US TO FKING NA AND OUR RESET DAYS ARE DIFFRENT

[rain coral]

really? is sub rogue meta right now? been doing really well as assa rogue

^^

[balmy condor]

what part of sub sims higher told you that sub rogue is meta

sims don't determine meta

[subtle tundra]

hof was still open?

[rain coral]

i was just curious

but for me assa rogues still seems to perform best of all rogue specs

[brazen sluice]

yes untill reset as they saied

but turns out to be '' NA reset '

[subtle tundra]

lol joke of a hof

lost all its meaning

fucking 9% damage buff while hof still open

LOL

[jagged wind]

it's so sad. simmed 684 crafted rings over champion jastor and circlet and neither slot was better (well cirlet lost like 2,6k but thats already inside variance) 😦

[rain coral]

hey is hc gear also getting a ilvl upgrade?

[balmy condor]

that makes sense given the rest of the statistics

[rain coral]

oke nic

nice

so i guess hc gear will be than around 672

[grizzled elk]

i guess i have to recraft and try it out, thanks for the info!

[balmy condor]

what

[golden loom]

[brave stump]

[grizzled elk]

i mean recraft things for assa ^^

[brave stump]

I went to bed being confused come back the next day and get hit by a stungrenade

[gaunt quiver]

It's super effective.

[red schooner]

Yeah that's normal

Just never recover from being stunned

Can't get stunned more

[rain coral]

random question, how long does a GM takes to reply ?

[sturdy python]

necro'ing this old number from 2 weeks ago: did anyone determine if the junkmaestro's trinket was actually sim bait or not?

[balmy condor]

what

why would it be sim bait

[sturdy python]

😁

Just seems weirdly good and impractical to play

[balmy condor]

you press it once every 2 min

how is that impractical

[sturdy python]

Do those stacks line up exactly once every 2 mins or is it just send at 2 mins regardless of stacks

[balmy condor]

you send it during lingering regardless

it's 10 stacks a minute hasted

with 30 max

should never cap

[sturdy python]

Ah oki, interesting

Well, no better vault options so I guess I'll get it and have a mess around with it

Spideysense was tingling a bit

Also can't see many with it on WCL

So was just unsure ^^

[sly raft]

Hey everyone, hope u had good luck in ur vaults
What's a good comp for a rogue ? Im pushing my keys and idk if i should take players based on rio (which i think is really mean), or based on class but idk what synergise well with me..

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[sturdy python]

I'm at 3.4k playing without bloodlust

but if you wanted to optimise, just play in a phys dmg comp

warr/sham/druid/you/monk

but yeah it doesn't really matter (at least for now)

[sly raft]

aight, thanks for the help 👍

[native turret]

fuckkk 😦 almost timed 15 cinder but tank fell over right before bee boss died

[undone flame]

i dont understand why my sims wants me to get more haste then crit but i follow the sims i gusse xD

[balmy condor]

whats weird about that

[undone flame]

dont we want more crit then haste?

[native turret]

need some amount of haste

assass isnt stack 2 stats

[balmy condor]

haste is good

do you have a pacemaker

[undone flame]

i do in fact have a pacemaker

[native turret]

he means in game

not irl

[balmy condor]

well then you have more crit than haste don't you

[undone flame]

ah okay both then (i dont have one irl but i like the joke xD)

[native turret]

lol

we got any mythic pacemaker purchasers tuesday?

its my only upgrade left

[undone flame]

nope allready gat mine

[rain coral]

guys you still use Cyrce's Circlet even if its seems worse than other rings?

[native turret]

its not worse

[undone flame]

i didnt even think of that i just looked at the raw stats out of combat

[native turret]

on assass, circlet is equal to 700 ilvl ring

[rain coral]

sims*

[native turret]

no way it sims worse

i've simmed it against everything and it never simmed worse

[rain coral]

it does

[native turret]

show sim

[rain coral]

iam not at home right now

[native turret]

ofc 🙂

when you get home link and tag me

[red schooner]

If it sims worse, you fucked up your gems

[undone flame]

i think for me an low crit high haste one armed ring beats it barely but that was m+ with patchwork sim

[rain coral]

but iam jastor diamond and my 675 crafted ring sims 45k dps more

[native turret]

no way lol

your crafted ring beats circlet

[red schooner]

Or your stats are fucked

[native turret]

you have the wrong gems inside circlet

[rain coral]

bro it does

[native turret]

link me your toon

[red schooner]

Got the wrong gems 100%

[native turret]

or tell me char name and realm

[undone flame]

@native turret what are the right gems now i wanna make sure im useing the right ones xD

[rain coral]

Kerosen- Blackmoore

check it out bro

[native turret]

storm, fathom, wind

[rain coral]

it sims worse

by 45k dps

[balmy condor]

"sims higher"
link sim
"not home"
okay well then how do we know that you didn't fuck the sim
"sims higher"

love it

[undone flame]

thanks im useing the right ones then

[rain coral]

i did dungeon slice with my talents and gear

[native turret]

its okay, im simming for him right now

[red schooner]

Imagine not committing your simc to rote memory

[balmy condor]

I mean

you could've just waited

until the sim got linked

[native turret]

nah, that wont happen

[still salmon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7PHPwGGLKVkGotRv6DtfT1

[red schooner]

Somebody might have been wrong on the internet, it was important

Urgent even

[strange tundra]

He seemed pretty straightforward to me bro

[still salmon]

what should i craft next and with what stats?

[native turret]

@rain coral https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nqWBZat6Yy5pvEGa3Fb3GK

[rain coral]

i got a jastor diamond and my 675 crafted and they perform better - bleed build, and dungeon slice scenario

[native turret]

and i didnt even sim for AOE, thats ST

so i know its way biggerin AOE

🙂

[rain coral]

bro can you sim in aoe ?

[native turret]

yeah

dungeon slice

vs 1 boss 5 min

i can though

simming now

[native turret]

urgent asf

[balmy condor]

is that double crafted daggers

oh no man

[native turret]

he goofed

[still salmon]

im not raiding, and by the time i get a m track weap from m+ i will have enough sparks i think

[native turret]

its still simming @rain coral

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean -60 gilded crests

but oaky

sure

[humble verge]

almost losing to ww guildie in raid build, watafak :)

[native turret]

next tuesday gilded free dont let whispyr bully you

[balmy condor]

ya

not worried

[native turret]

i crafted an outlaw weapon so

[balmy condor]

just hurts to see

[still salmon]

crests is so ez to get so, thats no worrie

[native turret]

i bullied myself

[humble verge]

say what

[native turret]

no cap

[subtle tundra]

UNLIMITED POWER

[humble verge]

oh

ook

[native turret]

@rain coral

[balmy condor]

I get to link it a third time

huge

[rain coral]

so how we doing in dungeon slice Kameloz? 🙂

[humble verge]

ah i saw you post it

but didnt read

you know

[native turret]

circlet still better

[undone flame]

well somtimes you are just unlucky i stil running heroic sincei havent gotten 1 form vault and the guild im in dont have ppl for m raiding

[native turret]

you simmed wrong

[humble verge]

its me whisp

wdym

[rain coral]

what did i do wrong ?

[native turret]

circlet + jastor, your crafted ring is garbage

i dunno

i didnt sim it first

[rain coral]

i mean can gems make such a different?

[native turret]

yes

lmfao

[balmy condor]

okay but imagine that you could craft uh.... literally ANYTHING else

[native turret]

the circlet gems make it a 700 ilvl ring

[red schooner]

In circes? Yes

That's the entire point of the ring

[rain coral]

wait you didnt sim my crafted too ?

[native turret]

[subtle tundra]

what

[rain coral]

or what you mean?

[native turret]

no? why would i sim your crafted ring, it obviously wont beat jastor

i simmed your crafted ring vs circlet

i mean

jastor + circlet

crafted ring go to trash can

ez

[humble verge]

reddit will say this is detrimental to the game and will start to complain endlessly end on end that blizzard should give us free gear just for subbing to their game

[undone flame]

well i havent sim so i dont know what woude give me more dmg have just been upgraeing stuff myself 😄

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/37hft4ZikVzXXR5NrNtwYC that should have basically everything

[balmy condor]

okay well the rule is that a second dagger is never the answer

it's the worst slot on any spec in the game

so

[rain coral]

i dont get it why dont you sim my gear vs Cyrce's Circlet

[balmy condor]

you're better off crafting legit anything

[native turret]

i did kerosen

I simmed your crafted ring VS Cyrce

jesus christ buddy