assassination

[balmy condor]

rather than the 61.6% here

[tall atlas]

Soz Scottish turns of phrase

[quasi ingot]

thats nota scottish phrase!

[hidden bay]

Very well written

Thanks for the effort

[tall atlas]

Shut it ya wee bawbag

[quasi ingot]

you switching up hard!

[tall atlas]

I’ll chib yer lugs aff

Wash yer back

[quasi ingot]

@balmy condor whens the interview with ION

[clever sparrow]

how much grind do i have to reach argus map?

[balmy condor]

never

[worn geyser]

im ngl talking abt feint i wish they reduced the dr a fair bot but didnt make it cost energy but that probably would be too busted , already super strong ability

[inland escarp]

I like it as is

[nova kelp]

But you could do that thing, where you ask super softball prescripted questions and offer no feedback constructive or mean

[spice surge]

I honestly prefered when it was on the gcd, but i get the issues with it

Just feels wrong to me to be able to cast it a lot in aoe with no drawback

[inland escarp]

Feels great!

[west smelt]

I like feeling unkillable

[nova kelp]

play a DK

[inland escarp]

Tru

[earnest flume]

W wowhead article Mr Whispyr

[gusty mirage]

idk energy cost is pretty biggly

[spice surge]

Like the reason feint is as strong as it is mostly hinges on it having a drawback

[west smelt]

I like feeling unkillable while pressing more than 2 buttons in aoe *

[worn geyser]

its so annoying having no energy in st, but having to feint a boss ability every cycle like ML first boss in m+ and get scammed out of ur already low energy

[spice surge]

Well not in aoe

[gusty mirage]

true

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[spice surge]

Like i wouldve prefered on the gcd but no cost, but

Overall i dont really care

[nova kelp]

feint free but on gcd?

I'd vouch for that

[static glacier]

nah

id keep it as it is

[gusty mirage]

also prevents feinting a 2nd time if you're spamming it while panicking

[static glacier]

hate gcd on defensives

[gilded oasis]

dont gotta call me out

[static glacier]

especially on proactive ones

I still haven't really forgiven them for putting frenzied regeneration on gcd

[gusty mirage]

I'm not, I'm calling US out

[worn geyser]

idk id vouch for feint on gcd up until the point i find a boss that requires me to feint during burst window and ‘waste’ a gcd

[west smelt]

Could probably use a similar macro to the symbols macro we use on sub

[vital flicker]

Blizzard is going to read whispyr's sin rogue article and their takeaway is going to be "we need to adjust crimson tempest to actually soft cap at 5" calling it now

[static glacier]

also free feint on gcd would just be used during natural downtime constantly banking 1 charge

[worn geyser]

i mean sure but they could also just rework that talent to accommodate right

[static glacier]

I don't trust them to not make it cringe

look at their initial idea for trickster

[worn geyser]

i mean yeah theyre kinda cringe but theyve made sin rogue infinitely better than the past in terms of qols like that

[humble verge]

fuck

i need to do 5 more weeklies tomorrow

[static glacier]

remember when cds weren't on gcd

I don't want to ever show them any kind of acceptance for them butchering gameplay

for the sake of these "design principles"

fun should always be priority

[worn geyser]

the spec is 10x better gameplay now than pre SL imo cant speak for post since i skipped SL/DF and came back for TWW

i hated that change when they made it but tbh it ended up not mattering to me eventually

[static glacier]

yes because they caved in

to complaints

and removed a bunch of shit from the gcd

[winged sun]

GUYS

I DID

30M DPS

1ST PULL

CINDERBREW

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH?

[humble verge]

cool

now go to bed

[winged sun]

bro i ripped the shit out of that aggro

on the hired muscle

[humble verge]

how you even rip aggro

arent you tricksing dumbass

[winged sun]

we had a 3:15 first boss kill timer

cuz of the funnel

lmao

on 18

[humble verge]

bruh

[winged sun]

i did 150m more than 2nd dpser

boss dam

op op

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-asked-6million-years-who-asked-fartic-gif-20339864

[humble verge]

@winged sun wheres your 20 stupid ahh

[brave comet]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[solar wyvern]

How the frigg did you do that

[winged sun]

IM DOING IT CONSISTENT BRB

[solar wyvern]

How the fak

How many garrotes?

[bronze pike]

pogpog

[winged sun]

HOLY SHIT

im pumping

brb

[lean plover]

is that with your build?

[weary spear]

Are you guys doing triple muscle

[drifting cloud]

@balmy condor https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-one-armed-bandit-nerfs-are-finally-here-upcoming-mythic-raid-nerfs-376742 lockin

[balmy condor]

Locking in

Telling Comcast to lock in rn

[drifting cloud]

oh ffs

[winged sun]

ye

[empty vault]

hey! so i have a few questions

[winged sun]

last boss dps with 0 tea's ready

[empty vault]

1. how do you get dps and keep up venomous wounds when garrote is on cd?

and

2. when should i use vanish? should i always use it with deathmark + shiv for burst windows or whenever its available?

[solar wyvern]

did u snap up the pack on boss?

[balmy condor]

1. rupture
2. usually for chains on with deathmark on bosses

[winged sun]

no

pure st

[solar wyvern]

okay like actually

how tho

Where are you finding this dps from

this is hybrid subter?

[winged sun]

oh

this is the fastest 18 cinder

in the world

lol

[empty vault]

ty for ur reply! do i use rupture with max combo points or whenever its available?

[solar wyvern]

Where the fuck are you getting this dps from lmfao are u just him?

[balmy condor]

all finishers on 5 or higher

[winged sun]

do i stream our 19 run

[balmy condor]

would suggest reading the priorites in the guide

[winged sun]

i think i should

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[winged sun]

i wanna get a vod of it

[empty vault]

alright ty

[wide gorge]

Ping when youre live

[winged sun]

oh nvm this is like few seconds faster than fastest run

ye imlive just want a vod of this key and will close stream

[haughty flicker]

[brave comet]

@winged sunhttps://murlok.io/character/eu/kazzak/zeross/pve is this build of yours actually legit?

[hollow river]

Is this not the same build everyone has been referring to for weeks

[brave comet]

i guess im out of date then

[weary spear]

It’s a good build just get scents and CT up then envenom spam

[hollow river]

It’s the weird hybrid build not recommended til you’re doing like 17-18s

[weary spear]

No

[west smelt]

The main reason it's not good until then is because your prio targets don't live through an entire KB, right? So would it be good in keys lower than that in groups with a couple bad DPS or generally non existent prio

[coral ibex]

0 days since someone pinged zeross to ask about his build on murlok

[spice surge]

Surprising to me that people actually use murlok

[brave comet]

i dont use it

[coral ibex]

i dont get it

[spice surge]

It just shows raid talents most of the time

[brave comet]

someone asked me about it, i was like oh isnt that the dude from discord

and he asked me to ask him

[hollow river]

Not really, you just don’t need the dmg profile in lower keys

Can do more overall with bleed build/demise maxing

[west smelt]

[hollow river]

It’s surprisingly decent for pvp and ass for PvE

Pvpers rarely swap much about builds

[timber meadow]

damn dude thats a feelsbad

[spice spire]

That’s tough buddy

[drifting cloud]

rouge

[balmy condor]

Corruptions Numbers

• Greater Corruptions in all situations are between 2% and 2.5%
• In Single Target all corruptions are close, with echoing void being +0.4% ahead of the others, which are equal
• In Dungeons, Void Ritual/Echoing Void/Twilight Dev are basically equal, with the rest falling behind quite a bit

Picture 1 is single target, Picture 2 is dungeonslice

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Okay but what about 10t 30 second with lust

(This isn’t serious ty whispyr ily king)

[misty holly]

I have yet to get a pug that can do the shroud skip at the end of mechagon without pulling the pack we're trying to skip (and often wiping because of it).

With buddies on discord is the only time that skip ever works =/

[rugged fable]

sap+distract then shroud is the easiest method for me

[fleet pagoda]

i remind my group to not run in front of the tank and not push buttons while shroud is up everytime, have had luck in general with it

[wide gorge]

Just need the tank to go first and nobody cast until you are in boss Room

[timber meadow]

it might be easier for you to let the tank pull back and meld everything

[drifting cloud]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[misty holly]

Yeah I know. Tanks are always too tentative right at that spot. They stop to wait for people or something and always end up face pulling.

[misty holly]

I should try the distract, hadn't thought of that.

[misty holly]

Good call I will do that next time. I had forgotten distract exists lol

[winged sun]

yes please dont play it

its only for 17-19 keys

[humble verge]

i take that as a challenge

[misty holly]

Any chance we see assassination rogue at MDI?

[empty quartz]

already has been

[drifting cloud]

after another udk nerf it can happen on global finals in some dungeons

but prob depends on the team

doubt kush has practiced it

[inland dirge]

@hidden bay you're on notice

[hidden bay]

[drifting cloud]

wts

[inland dirge]

dm

[hidden bay]

Use all on ipsa

[drifting cloud]

[balmy condor]

this is insane

[inland dirge]

dedicated to my craft

[wintry cave]

making another rogue just cause, what race should I make it? (already got nelf)

[runic hinge]

can we pin it

[runic hinge]

dwarf is good

[coral ibex]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[tawdry halo]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[runic depot]

How many of you play with mouseover bleed macros

I'm thinking of swapping across

sick of losing prio target tab targetting in aoe

[worn geyser]

its the move

tab target\click target users in shambles im getting extra autos in while they try to fight nameplates

[runic depot]

do you also have a non mouserover rupture garrote button

or u just full send the momuseover lifestyle

[worn geyser]

i have them both bound to same key when i want to hit my current target i hit right click

[coral ibex]

i just have all my keybinds check for mouseover

with no modifier key

[runic depot]

whats the macro?

[worn geyser]

i dont have a modifier key, i just right click to prevent mis-mouseover cast

idk i stole this one from google

/use [@mouseover, exists] rupture; rupture

works fine

[balmy condor]

I just don't swap

[wintry cave]

time to dwarf max

[buoyant herald]

ok jundies plater is goated, to necro a conversation from this morning

[wintry cave]

been using it since I found it, I refuse to use another profile

[quasi ingot]

link plz

[buoyant herald]

ive been using quaziis which is fine but this just feels nicer idk

[nova kelp]

jundies has undies in his name, I refuse to deal with undies

[buoyant herald]

cheque meight

[hollow river]

Link to his plater? Just search “Jundies” on wago.io

[hollow river]

[buoyant herald]

funnily enough it had ALREADY blacklisted all of the rogue debuffs i don't need to see so i was immediately hooked

[hollow river]

I blacklisted a couple extra things

Like Deathmark, corrupt the blood etc

[buoyant herald]

corrupt the blood was already there

[hollow river]

It was already on your blacklist?

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[hollow river]

Wasn’t on mine

[buoyant herald]

old version, get with the times

[hollow river]

I just swapped to Jundies on my rogue today

But I imported it a while back ye

[buoyant herald]

weird, unless the blacklist settings are held independently like in plater addon files

that seems weird though

[hollow river]

Nah it’s prolly just an old version like you said

Because I imported the profile weeks ago and was using it on my dk

[balmy condor]

jundies plater good

[hollow river]

Ye it’s nice

[balmy condor]

that's why I took all the name colors and stuff

[quasi ingot]

ive been using that Marcelion onlines plater..

[balmy condor]

theirs is pretty good too yeah

[hollow river]

Biggest thing for me is just the pandemic glow

Quazii’s didn’t have it and idk how to add it myself

[coral ibex]

i have a pandemic glow mod if youw ant it

[topaz hare]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vocal cradle]

What spec do y'all suggest for progging oab? I feel like as assa I should never get off the boss..

[winged sun]

Sub cuh

[coral ibex]

assa

assistant damage is fake at this point

just cleave

[winged sun]

Hes progging

Not reclears

[vocal cradle]

Yes, progging

[winged sun]

Play sub if u want

Otherwise it doesnt matter

[olive harbor]

someone have the whispyr afenar aura edit updated

i applied kingsbane to my build

and aura crashed

[vocal cradle]

I don't really have any vers/mas gear anymore lol

[olive harbor]

i have a really old version, who get on you tube some months ago

[vocal cradle]

So it's not really worth playing sub in assa gear then?

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[winged sun]

Probably not no

Just stay sin

[coral ibex]

i'm also progging and the damage is not an issue

the issue is braindead ranged

who dont kick

[olive harbor]

Tyvm sir

[idle needle]

I hadnt noticed until a recent gear upgrade, but I only have 5.4 haste, but like 17k crit and 18k mastery. Am I screwing myself having so little haste?

[fallow canopy]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[ember mural]

need vers

[hallow glade]

Signet 665 sims better than hoc 658 for me with higher crit than mastery I guess it’s not a big deal🧍‍♂️

[ember mural]

smiler

[hallow glade]

Wait a second 🙈

[coral ibex]

[earnest remnant]

honestly comes down to the strat that you are doing, but at this point id just play Assa, all you really do is put up rupture on the add when the boss gets dragged to them to get a bit rupture dmg and snipe some energy

[junior fjord]

Here's simple question. Which thing does make assa strong when boss HP is under 35%? Zoldyck gives 30% dmg buff for posion/bleed. Is there any other?

[coral ibex]

im coping about boss damage rn

[coral ibex]

blindside procs as well

[junior fjord]

Thx

[ebon glen]

What spec did ya play?

[earnest remnant]

[junior fjord]

Deathstalker

[coral ibex]

studying your mugzee pov between wipes

[earnest remnant]

doing the fast strat on OAB

is not good for my parsing i gotta tell u

[coral ibex]

we're not doing the fast strat

i told them about it but nothing changed from thursday

[subtle tundra]

new whispyr article dropped, time to jack one off to it

[coral ibex]

didn't even link

not a fellow gooner

[subtle tundra]

wtf?????

im cranking it

[coral ibex]

can't even one hand it

sad!

[winged sun]

@balmy condor great wowhead post

Hopefully envenom and deathstalker fixes and survivability buffs

[keen spruce]

[red cedar]

What are the stat preferences for MOP assassination?

[distant heart]

is 25k mastery/ 75% without flask too much ?

[subtle tundra]

bro MOP assa? wheres mop

[red cedar]

mist of pandaria

[subtle tundra]

yea why tf you asking

theres no mop

if youre asking for a private server, this is the wrong place

[red cedar]

Sorry then 😐

[worthy rose]

my god i just shamelessly ratted my ass to a aotc clear LOL

[subtle tundra]

wrong. you proved your skill and killed a hc endboss

[spice spire]

Varas are you good

[worthy rose]

i shit u not

i did not deserve that clear

LOL

[subtle tundra]

yea, maybe a bit tired but thats everyone right

[spice spire]

I’m not used to varas being positive

[spice spire]

Hell yeah king

I’m up in 4 hours

[subtle tundra]

drink a thistle tea for the energy!

[worthy rose]

thistle tea in game

red bull irl

every time your character pops a thistle tea you gotta down a can of red bull irl

[subtle tundra]

and thats ok
theres people killing mythic endboss and dont deserve it

[spice spire]

I’m a white monster kinda guy

The energy drink

[subtle tundra]

hi

[subtle tundra]

aw shucks

[worthy rose]

ive actually never tried monster that i can remember

maybe id id a while back

must not have liked it if i didnt continue

[subtle tundra]

every time i have monster i feel like its too much to drink and it never ends

[spice spire]

Haha mb just been backed up

[subtle tundra]

[coral ibex]

@balmy condor great article king, very well articulated points

[subtle tundra]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT PRAISE HIM HE WILL CUM

[lavish wing]

what article

[keen pecan]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/assassination-rogue-mid-expansion-retrospective-hero-talents-current-issues-and-376713

[lavish wing]

ty

[coral ibex]

what if i want him to cum huh

what if i thought that would be nice for him

[lavish wing]

cant wait for the sub article 😄

it will have one word I guess, just "No."

[hexed frost]

Man I miss the neuron activations during blindside proc after going back to hybrid

[cunning needle]

Please blizzard give us one drop of attention.

[lavish wing]

proceeds to drop attention

[cunning needle]

[gloomy heart]

Question: do you think if i get a raid trinket i need but get a myth item in vault, do i take the myth item over raid since dinars are coming out ?

[coral ibex]

depends on the trinkets you have rn but that sounds logical to me

[gloomy heart]

It’s for my
mage 🧙

[coral ibex]

isnt a 639 spymaster's web still the best on use trinket for a mage

[buoyant herald]

for arcane i think yes

[gloomy heart]

Yeah i think for arcane but im fire

[buoyant herald]

mmm nah it's down the last a bit for arcane

but in another way, it's still better than all but a few other trinkets at 678 so

stupid thing

[worthy rose]

i remember my friends all lost their minds when i won a heropic spymaster on my priet last season

and proceeded to do 600k dps with it

"bro u didnt deserve that trinket i stg"

i infact did not

[cunning needle]

yes

my mate was not happy

[rotund oak]

@balmy condor actually took my time to read,start to end.A great one 👌

[balmy condor]

Ty

[balmy condor]

Ty

[balmy condor]

Ty

[timber meadow]

am i crazy or does rogue actually have like similar funnel as arcane mage lmao

[rotund oak]

yes u are crazy

[timber meadow]

kk

[rotund oak]

[timber meadow]

had better prio than a 3400 arcane mage in my last key but it was just a weekly 12 so he prob wasn't trying // key too small

[rotund oak]

depends but arcane mage should win the rogue with his buttons

[timber meadow]

like button vs. button funnel arcane should win i see

[rotund oak]

mage should lose in constant chainpulling to sin

windows are kinda sus

in overall that is

[timber meadow]

yeah i imagine arcane loses to assa voerall... assa kinda farms overall

been playing boomie this season though

its actually insane how many assa rogues dont prio in keys though idk what it is

i invited a few thinking "man, they're prob gonna be sick prrio" and then i look at prio mobs after dungeon and im like bruh what are you even hitting

[rotund oak]

mage issues

tbh ild pick warlocks above mages for anything

[timber meadow]

most higher io rogue pugs are playing kb still btw

the propoganda didn't stick

i check every time i play with a rogue lol

out of curiosity

@balmy condor you need to spread the gospel more

[buoyant mauve]

how good is a jastor? better than a myth track ring?

[timber meadow]

i imagine heroic jastor dumpsters mythic ring off the top of my head but prob just sim

[royal lantern]

yes

sim

but yes

[buoyant mauve]

an hc jastor*

my B

[polar rampart]

am i the only person who thinks "more raid buffs" is not the answer to the raidbuff problem? :p

[restive glade]

fellas .. so ur doing mythic and bleed build, ur rupture is down like 2s ago and u have darkest night, envenom for re-deathstalker or rupture n delay next deatstalker

i feel like its always deathstalker but it feels so bad to bag fumble rupture

[royal lantern]

?

[restive glade]

then whats the answer

[polar rampart]

less :p

[red schooner]

Give us pve smokebomb, ez win

[runic hinge]

It’s always darkest night but just don’t fumble rupture before that. Rupture should get refreshed on your last stack of mark if it’s gonna fall off while you build again

[restive birch]

if i have kingsbane but no vanish and my bleeds are falling off of aoe, do i kingsbane -> spread ruptures, hold kingsbane and spread then use, or do i just ignore spreading bleeds during kingsbane

[coral ibex]

i would rather have fewer total raid buffs than more

[restive glade]

as usual .. just be better

[brave comet]

IO doesnt matter this season

i dont think io means anything when it comes to damage/rotation execution

so many 3.2k io players join my key and are doing so pathetic

[past marten]

What are you comparing it to? Heroic HoC?

[cunning needle]

dunno, just passing on what mate sent

i think its heroic hoc though

[quiet oar]

So same thing as Sub Rogue and Heroic HoC / Transmitter

[grim jay]

I mean yeah, 3.2k isnt really high rn

[quiet oar]

I wish was high with you

frfr

[grim jay]

But timing keys has more important points than doing your rotation optimally

[subtle tundra]

it does. it always does
its just that io got inflated this season compared to last season cause the dungeons are MUCH easier and the removal of the additional death penalty below 12

[grim jay]

Saaaame, but I would automatically be high with you, high on life atleast

[quiet oar]

[gloomy heart]

Anyone know if the delve event gives a heroic item tomorrow?

[cunning needle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[heady maple]

do we get spark tmrw

[royal lantern]

i mean

every class has 1 raidbuff the game is balanced around, what else is there around it lol

• they exists to make sure that every class has a safe raidspot, which is a good thing, otherwhise we end up with "yeha that class is not for raids rn" again

[heady maple]

this is incorrect

[royal lantern]

how?

if you say warlock/dk, yes they have one, even if its slightly different

[heady maple]

no

[restive glade]

sometimes simple stupid solution is better, flat % increase just works

[static glacier]

Some are just better than others

[heady maple]

what raid buff does dk bring to the game

vistigial shell?

[static glacier]

Grip xd

You might laugh but when it’s applicable it’s the most impactful “raid buff”

Issue is it’s useful on like 1-3 fights a tier on average

[heady maple]

sigil of chains

[static glacier]

Other than that they have a better version of the auto attack slow from numbing

[heady maple]

warlock curse

[royal lantern]

every tier has 1-3 fights where grips are mandatory?

[heady maple]

liberation of undermine

[static glacier]

This tier it was 1 where it was absolutely massive

[heady maple]

grip isnt a raid buff

[royal lantern]

like, if you say with a straight face that DK grips are NOT mandatory, you are delusional in some way

[heady maple]

how does a grip buff the raid

[royal lantern]

this was the first tier since forever where we had a endboss where grip was not a 100% need for once lol

[static glacier]

Bringing a target on top of boss to be cleaved results in a massive dps increase

[royal lantern]

by literally being mandatory on many fights???

[heady maple]

you can kill every fight iwthout a dk

there are plenty stix kills without it

how is that mandatory

mandatory = impossible without it

[static glacier]

Yes after it got nerfed

[royal lantern]

show me how you killed early ovinax or stix without grips

[heady maple]

how are we putting grip on the same level as motw

[red schooner]

You can kill every fight without arcane intellect it's still a raid buff

[static glacier]

Because when it’s applicable it’s better than motw

[heady maple]

amen

[static glacier]

Unlike motw grip actually makes a huge difference in killing / not killing shit like ovinax

[red schooner]

DK grip is huge on certain bosses, it's still a raid buff

[heady maple]

just knock

amen

[static glacier]

🙂

[royal lantern]

@static glacier DK players had a single raidtier where grips where not 100% mandatory for the last 2 fights and then say shit like that lol

[static glacier]

Their class is still above average

For damage and ignores like half the mechanics + is immortal

Think of it like this, raidbuffs get weaker the more gear you have, dk grip is the inverse

[heady maple]

so we're making things up

[near valley]

so this is how it feels to be betrayed

[static glacier]

Are you incapable of thinking

[heady maple]

you are the one that thinks grip is a raid buff

[red schooner]

Legit though, just give rogues a smoke bomb that's a DR like darkness and I'd be happy

[heady maple]

stop it

[cunning needle]

do warlocks have a raidbuff?

[heady maple]

no

[static glacier]

Raid “utility”

[royal lantern]

ok that guy is legit not smart lol

[static glacier]

Happy?

[red schooner]

Blizz even said they view it as a raid buff didn't they

[heady maple]

grip is utility

[red schooner]

Or something like that

[heady maple]

hs gates are utility

[static glacier]

I dont usually do this

[red schooner]

I forget the wording or where I read it

[near valley]

tbf i think the more pressing issue is blood dk having the better version of all DK utility

[static glacier]

But you’re actually such a dumbass

Arguing semantics

[red schooner]

I need caffeine

[static glacier]

Like fuck you

[near valley]

whoa Mo

[static glacier]

I woke to up some bullshit

[heady maple]

woahhhh calm down!!

you might have your panties in a bundle...

[static glacier]

“Utility” “buff”

[near valley]

it sounds like some coffee o'clock

[heady maple]

utility and raid buffs are different

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha

but the base goal is still done, you always bring one regardless, even if it sometimes sucks for dps DK players

[heady maple]

just like motw is a raid buff and grip isnt

[static glacier]

Bruh you cared so much about the word that you failed to see the meaning behind it

[red schooner]

I'm waiting for my smoke break so I can also go out and obtain energy drink

And then I can feel like a human again

[near valley]

i get the point somewhat if you have that niche situations where grip isn't in raid whatsoever

[cunning needle]

just walk away, it's not worth it

[near valley]

but those are far and few between

[cunning needle]

happens every time the "DK/warlock isnt a raid buff"

[heady maple]

ur crying irl over me saying grip isnt a raid buff

grow some balls idk

utility =/= raid buff

[near valley]

to this guys credit a warlocks utility is applicable in more situations than a dk's is

[quiet oar]

We can be high in a threeway

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha

and like, you dont bench your DK player for fights where its not needed lol

[near valley]

but also utility is also almost as useful as a raidbuff

[heady maple]

just gate over to the mob and knock it instead of gripping amen

[near valley]

especially depending on the fight

[royal lantern]

dont Mo, its a troll

or a heroic andy

[near valley]

rescue on raz was almost a make or break on the fight

[static glacier]

Unlike raidbuffs utility is a lot more binary, it’s either hard required or largely useless

[red schooner]

I wish I was still a heroic Andy

[near valley]

and evoker raid buff was basically useless

[heady maple]

ur a rogue player

whats ur raid buff

[red schooner]

Life was easier

[static glacier]

Gl doing raszageth without gateway

[heady maple]

NONE!!

[royal lantern]

atriphic poison you dumb fuck lol

[quiet oar]

This one

[near valley]

yeah I agree with that for sure

[static glacier]

“We have a raid debuff” 🤓

[runic hinge]

Mf is just trolling

[hollow river]

the troll is gone

[static glacier]

I swear I’m done with this Evan bozo

[near valley]

also very true

[red schooner]

Wait but now I have to do actual work in the office

[near valley]

say less, say when

[red schooner]

Why did you do this to me

[vague sun]

Imagine if on the choice node for stratagem / flying daggers, the flying daggers was replaced by echoing blades

[hollow river]

he just pulled the equivalent of whispering someone and putting them on ignore list

[near valley]

did he just leave?

[hollow river]

as far as i know, yeah

[runic hinge]

Monk and dh no raid buff either. 🙄

[red schooner]

I thought it was a ban

[royal lantern]

oh hell no

[red schooner]

Shit

[royal lantern]

[cunning needle]

wait how the fuck has he cleared the raid twice on heroic but has 0 sprocket kills

[red schooner]

Bought a lockout

[cunning needle]

acutally unhinged

[red schooner]

Must be Czech

[near valley]

got benched clearly

[cunning needle]

czech deez nuts

[near valley]

he had no raid buff

[red schooner]

Shit he got me

[near valley]

applicable for the fight

[quiet oar]

@grim jay When are you available

[runic hinge]

@royal lantern I just picked Stu up. I did get bit for my troubles tho

[red schooner]

Worth it

[normal mist]

He wasn't very useful, the guy that left

Clearly didn't have a raid buff

Oh wait the joke has been made already

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[bronze pike]

dk raid buff isnt really a solution people think it is

[restive glade]

https://tenor.com/view/rugby-yay-gif-3156747878755757137

fellas ... i started always using cds on cooldown and dry shiving and +10 parse

[bronze pike]

cause it just cements bdk more than anything else

[red schooner]

Hell yeah, nice one

[restive glade]

also took poison knife off bar ….

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/win-pumped-ftw-celebrate-gif-5472298

[near valley]

call me crazy, but wasn't there some wierd legendary or something that made poison knife do more dmg?

[balmy condor]

No

There was a legendary that made fok do more damage

Was like 30% every second stacking 30 times

Or something like that

[solar wyvern]

Oh the cape

How i miss yee

[red schooner]

The legendaries were fun, shame that the method of acquiring them wasn't

I got the feint healing ones as my first legendary though

[hearty seal]

read Whispyr's expose on the Assa Rogue
very cool, thank you, a lot of points I hope Blizz actually think about either with 11.2 or at the very fucking least 12.0

[quiet oar]

Same

[worthy rose]

with how much i spam fok in mythic dungeons

that would be insane today

[buoyant herald]

My first two were pre-buff sephuz and the neck lol

[strange tundra]

The shoulders best ever, one-shot people in wpvp 😂 😂

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor did you kill

I fell
Asleep

[hidden bay]

Ain’t no way

[balmy condor]

half the raid died like 45s into p2

[golden loom]

Boss getting nerfed now atleast pog

Think we are at 180? Pulls

[balmy condor]

we could've killed so much earlier had we just prepped better

but we're literally just running around like headless chickens

cause the strat wasn't laid out

we're just winging it

[red schooner]

Still on sprocket, not looking forward to OAB either

[golden loom]

We had to hold damage for like 25 seconds on our best pull

[red schooner]

We take the title of RFWL guild seriously, gotta cut it close to the wire every time

[golden loom]

And then I died right as we were gonna push

[balmy condor]

the DOMS special is to play at HoF level for heroic/first 3 mythic

and then just like

forget to plan anything past that

and officers check out for the tier

and we just full yolo the rest of the tier and do 300 pulls on a 100 pull boss

[hexed frost]

Still 3M mythic raider because my guild already has 2 rogues and they parse better

I'm proud of pugging 3 bosses each week

Takes a lot of patience

[subtle tundra]

BRO WHHHHHHAAAAAT

3 BILLION PULLS

[balmy condor]

175 pulls for p2

[subtle tundra]

i couldnt pull the boss

if that were us

[red schooner]

We just turn up, spend 100 pulls dying to stupid shit before we remember that we can do mechanics and then suddenly turn up one night and breeze through the boss no issues

Our saving grace is that by the time we get to bandit the ilvl increase will happen, so that might ease some of the pain.

[subtle tundra]

theres also gonna be more dmg gain

it also just got nerfed big time

[red schooner]

We might be okay, maybe

[subtle tundra]

theres also the corruption

so 2% dps

[red schooner]

You underestimate our ability to fuck up

If there's a way to fail a mechanic we'll find it

[subtle tundra]

bloodlust on pull and do 3 sets of addds only

to skip like every mechanic

kill boss in 5 minutes

or smth

[red schooner]

The dream.

Still wild that we lost one of our best DPS to a permaban, turns out he was botting his rotation

[royal lantern]

need a pic

[subtle tundra]

💀 what

[fallen arch]

They should call him then to optimize the 1 button rotation

[red schooner]

Apparently there's third party tools that bypass warden, that essentially let you do your full rotation with one button

[bronze pike]

[red schooner]

We were just sitting there like 'oh hey this guy's blasting good job'

Then he got perma'd

[bronze pike]

Can’t wait till 11.1.7

[subtle tundra]

fucking hell

[red schooner]

Yeah, it's wild, dude was parsing like 90+ on mythic

[eager bridge]

in m+ am i suppose to instantly go back to main/caustic/ds mark target after i switch to maintain garrotes and ruptures ? or it's ok to mutilate and auto other targets because lazy ? i'm a sub main learning assa and it sometimes feels like there's always something to refresh 😅

[eternal drift]

I am thinking of switching from dev evoker to assa rogue for M progression. Not sure my RL will take it well lol

[subtle tundra]

if you dont go back to the correct target, your damage will suffer GREATLY

[eager bridge]

hmmm, also i'm rereading the wowhead guide, am i not suppose to spread/maintain garrotes after improved garrote window ?

[sonic pagoda]

Garrote doesnt give bonus dmg outside of that window. Rupture on the other hand is important to spread for the buff depends on talents i believe i could be wrong

Its called funnel dmg and let caustic splatter and Crimson tempest do its thing while you destroy a prio target

[subtle tundra]

garrote outside of carnage window(which overlaps with improved garrote) is really bad in aoe

[eager bridge]

yeah rupture is important for energy and agility buff i believe

while garrote only gives more energy and damage but i guess if fok is more damage it's more convenient to press 😄

[subtle tundra]

well problem is garrote is 1 cp, not just the damage

[sonic pagoda]

FoK has its own buffs and gives way more CP

For more envenoms and ruptures and CT

feck idk use hekili until you understand the rotation.

[royal lantern]

"use hekili" and "understand Rotation" doesnt work

[normal mist]

From my experience it does indeed not work

[royal lantern]

its just like

if you wanna learn your gameplay, you would just look it up and play until you can do it

[normal mist]

It's just like put the square in the square hole, now the triangle

[royal lantern]

if you use a addon that tells you what to do, you obviously dont care enough to actually learn something

[eager bridge]

hekili doesn't make you learn you just mindlessly press what's shining (at least for me)

i'd rather do shit dps and tons of mistakes for a while until it gets better and i understand what's hapening 😄

[sonic pagoda]

I mean isnt all of wow with weak auras press whats shinging or glowing?

[royal lantern]

not really?

[normal mist]

Not really

[sonic pagoda]

Not really it just tracks your cds and procs. if you understand the opener and prio your good

[normal mist]

We ain't ret paladins

[red schooner]

Every day I wake up and go, "thank god I don't main Ret"

Life could be worse

[sonic pagoda]

Yeah i get it lol I make the debuffs and bleeds real big to track lol

[normal mist]

I still use tellmewhen to track those things, but that's it

[zenith elm]

Hello fellow gamers

[normal mist]

Hello

[zenith elm]

How we feeling today? its been a while

[normal mist]

Feeling good homie, HBU?

[red schooner]

Yeah but tracking it is different from hekili which just tells you what to hit when it comes to understanding I think

[zenith elm]

Feeling good, wont be able to play for a month tho

[normal mist]

What's up big G?

[zenith elm]

and i feel absolutely useless on rik and stix cause our tanks dont want to move the boss

[zenith elm]

Gonna go to spain for work, for big money

[sonic pagoda]

Bro All im gonna say is ive used hekili and it helped me learn the rotation after hitting a target dummy for hours.

its literally the apl uploaded in your game and you can gain muscle memory then turn it off and repeat

[zenith elm]

One button interface for the win, lol

[red schooner]

For me I tried it when learning feral druid and it didn't work for me at all

[royal lantern]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DJCVnDavhJC/?igsh=MTRjM3hsc2I3eDltbQ==

[sonic pagoda]

I have 400 days played on druid feral is ez lol

[red schooner]

I could follow hekili but I didn't understand how the spec worked

[sonic pagoda]

WEll im not gonna be rude but thats a you thing.

[red schooner]

So I turned it off and just did some dummy spam without it

[normal mist]

Me saying rogue is easy when I've played it since tbc

[eager bridge]

i think you learn faster when you press rupture because it's shining and you see it being like 9s on your wa than pressing rupture because an addon tells me it's the best button i could press rn

[sonic pagoda]

XD ive played rogue since mop

[zenith elm]

Tried helping a few guildies play assa rogue

didnt go well

[normal mist]

I tried to

[sonic pagoda]

Assa is feral but easier or feral is ass but harder idk dont @ me

[zenith elm]

They asked how i felt in ST

[normal mist]

"it just makes sense my friend"
Narrator:

• it didn't make sense to them

[zenith elm]

i said "i feel calm, relaxed"

they didnt get it

[sonic pagoda]

that is exactly how mut rogue feels is calm and relaxed

[zenith elm]

They wanted to perma spam, which is not the WAY

[normal mist]

100%

[zenith elm]

mut rogue?

[normal mist]

Assa

[zenith elm]

Ooooh

yrd

yes*

[normal mist]

Called mut by ogs

[sonic pagoda]

Mut rogue is old speak

[zenith elm]

Sorry i dont know the old ways

i'll improve, Old mut masters

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stupid-younger-generation-young-old-pissed-gif-5068746

[sonic pagoda]

lol hey thats me

[normal mist]

Right!?

[zenith elm]

I only mained rogue for a year, i'm still a baby

[normal mist]

Baby pointy kitchen knives user

[sonic pagoda]

Oh you dont have 6 druids 3 shaman 4 rogues and 3 hunters? and 3 warlocks? and 2 warriors?

[normal mist]

Shame

[sonic pagoda]

How dare you not be born in the 80s/90s and skip school and play wow

[normal mist]

Me with an army of rogues, all different races so I could try different tmogs

[zenith elm]

I have one warr, one rogue, one DH, one Feral, one evoker and one monk

[sonic pagoda]

THis part. I been rocken tauren this season im tired of the Pirate cow with bleeds

[zenith elm]

And i feel i need more rogues tbh but Nelf is just the best race

[sonic pagoda]

oh i almost forgot my 3 monks how could i

[zenith elm]

Idk how

[sonic pagoda]

Undead rogue is the bottom of the sims but the top of my heart

[zenith elm]

but Monk should feel like Mut rogue

and it doesnt, and its annoying

[sonic pagoda]

Monk does not feel like rogue

[zenith elm]

where is the calm? the relaxed?

[normal mist]

Yes PRE REMODEL

[zenith elm]

nothing

[normal mist]

The new model is eh

[sonic pagoda]

I liked all the bone exposure

[zenith elm]

You like boners?

[normal mist]

My first and recent sod character

[sonic pagoda]

Yeah dude one day you will wake up and not get one thats a bad day

[royal lantern]

i also have a snake in my pockets

:3

[sonic pagoda]

Fuck my dps i might just go undead instead of orc.....why does maghar orc sim the highest? and why does outlaw sim 300k more than assa when that is clearly not the case

[normal mist]

Because numbers are fake and we don't care

[zenith elm]

I'm hesitating taking an orc for prog

does it sim that much higher than Nelf?

[sonic pagoda]

But i bet you are playing nelf or dwarf or orc lol

[royal lantern]

maghar doesnt sim highest, its equal

racial dps is a meme

you dint compare sim Numbers bettwen specs/classes, thats not what sims are for

[red schooner]

Nah, troll

[normal mist]

If you're talking me, I'm human

[red schooner]

The best choice

[sonic pagoda]

mecha gnome?

[royal lantern]

vulpera->worgen, checkmate

[red schooner]

Once you go troll you never reroll

[sonic pagoda]

oh human rogues have good tmogs i can't play alliance though

[humble ginkgo]

so based

I need to go vulpera

but VELF will do for now

[sonic pagoda]

lol i rerolled from troll to orc on my shammy last season

[royal lantern]

race with flips

automatic win

[humble ginkgo]

im perma race swapped to vulpera tho

[radiant raven]

I love it's called sod because of the english word sod

it makes me laugh every time I see someone talking about it

[royal lantern]

why not?

[normal mist]

Me, female human full T3 with the new nightfall Tabard, garrosh heirloom daggers with death frost illusion

[humble ginkgo]

factions literally dont matter

[royal lantern]

isnt everything crossfaction now except like, questing?

[sonic pagoda]

Umm I'm gay? and only straight bois play alliance

[royal lantern]

brother

[radiant raven]

And queues

[zenith elm]

Yay i'm not gay

(untrue)

[radiant raven]

Any queued content is still limited iirc, like LFR, timewalking, etc

[royal lantern]

iirc they made those crossfactionnaswell if you Queue as a full party

[radiant raven]

Oh, right. Yeah, I forgot how they did that

Although that only works for dungeons

Unless you wanna queue into LFR with 30 people which would be really funny actually

[sonic pagoda]

Ive been horde since 2004! with the exception of making some humans and night elfs for pvp lol

[midnight mist]

whispyr please give me the string i wanna check outlaw rq im bored at work

[sonic pagoda]

oh and a gnome warlock that one time that was a strange summer

[balmy condor]

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[midnight mist]

ty cuh

[humble ginkgo]

[royal lantern]

double the UwU

[royal lantern]

jokes in you, im a wolf with a fox Hoodie

[normal mist]

PEAK

[red schooner]

Glorious

[radiant raven]

It's such a funny vibe

[normal mist]

WOOF WOOF

[royal lantern]

half my raid rocking the fox Hoodie, its perfect

[normal mist]

Hey Tryan

What does the fo-

[sonic pagoda]

lmao fuck i gotta go undead then huh ?

[hexed frost]

If I ever get clapped in open world by a gnome wearing a fur suit imma crash out

[sonic pagoda]

This is why Mut rogue channel is best channel the sub channel is doing fuggin math, the outlaw channel is always simming some cooked builds and talking about killing spree killing them and here we are talking about well...

[normal mist]

Mut channel? Sir this is offtopic

[red schooner]

Plenty of time to shoot the shit while waiting for energy to regen I guess

[sonic pagoda]

on me

so in like 11 and 12 keys does anyone else just kind of walk out of the pack and wait for energy to regen and maybe throw a dagger or a fok until its safe again? no just me? while still topping the meters?

[normal mist]

Sometimes I flirt with the healers

While I wait for energy to regen

[worthy rose]

i do that

but i dont top the meters

[sonic pagoda]

only if shes packin

[sacred schooner]

why do you need to walk anyway? i just run left and right for no particular reason

[balmy condor]

That’s sounds insanely cooked why are you out of energy

[royal lantern]

https://youtu.be/YU1hkP-sq7U?si=r6c3mnXKkQ05jhQl

[normal mist]

The SUPERIOR way

[worthy rose]

racist tanks who dont let me restealth after pulls makes me want to change to outlaw and sub

what do u guys do when u meet racist tanks

[red schooner]

This is bait

[sonic pagoda]

I'm trolling im never out of energy in dungeons

[balmy condor]

Bed time

[sonic pagoda]

i dont really care if they dont let me restealth vanish will be up again

yeah its bedtime

[fringe musk]

Guys question

[worthy rose]

but what if you dont have vanish

or what if youre trying to save a vanish charge for roaching

[fringe musk]

If I switch from assa rogue to subtlety, am I becoming gay by default?

[sonic pagoda]

Rogues always will and always have done it from behind

[hidden bay]

You would be banned from this channel

[fringe musk]

For being gay or subtlety

[sonic pagoda]

idk maintaining rupture on like 3-4 targets and your damage will still be good

[red schooner]

Then manually apply dots idk what you want from me here

[sonic pagoda]

sometimes you have to read the talents. not just import

[fringe musk]

Yeah, it was a pain to play assa rogue without knowing what darkest night do lmao

"where dmg"

[royal lantern]

good article btw

agreed with everything there, except that you should have clowned more on fatebound

[normal mist]

Yeah just a bit more

[grim jay]

No, all of it.

[zenith elm]

i tought we had another vids from you

sad

[oak eagle]

!stealth

!commands

[red schooner]

What command are you after?

[oak eagle]

the damage we get from getting a restealth

[grim jay]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[oak eagle]

ty

[sacred schooner]

good chains always a gain ;x pulling new pack when last mob at 5% is not chaining lol

hate when some tanks do that

[quartz kelp]

weekly keys are unplayable with pig pug tanks

[red schooner]

Dunno, never had an issue with them, even if they're doing the bad kind of chaining I can play around it

[rotund jungle]

just dont overuse your vanishes

[red schooner]

Sometimes tanks do bad pulls, let one mob waddle into a pack, but it hardly makes or breaks a key

[zenith elm]

Or

[red schooner]

You just keep playing, it's chill

[zenith elm]

you play Nelf

[red schooner]

My rogue was a troll when he was a made and he'll be a troll when he fucking dies

Good day

[zenith elm]

and you can still restealth if you play fast enough

[graceful wren]

hey guys how do i get the circle around my cursor

[obsidian marlin]

theres a weak aura for it, addons too

[brazen sluice]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[turbid gust]

do we only apply garrote in aoe only if empowered?

[brazen sluice]

when i try to use anlyzer it says its not updated to 11.5

[golden loom]

Yeah, can maintain it on main target tho

[red schooner]

It's fine, still works

[indigo sphinx]

It still works for baselines stuff and makes sense as a first port of call. Otherwise pray for quake

[brazen sluice]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/wJtzGX9y6cVRAPxj/54-Mythic+Sprocketmonger+Lockenstock+-+Kill+(5:17)/Sap/standard/overview

this is the report

what do i need to watch

[golden loom]

Can you send the log instead of the analyzer link

[red schooner]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wJtzGX9y6cVRAPxj/?fight=54&source=43&type=damage-done

[brazen sluice]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wJtzGX9y6cVRAPxj?fight=54

our raid 1 is at gally and we r raid 2 we killed sprocket , i feel like my dps is kinda meh but not sure why , i think overall i missed x2 dry KB's due to movement and dodges but still dogshit dmg

and normally when my DM is gonna be ready in less than 50s i dont send dry KB since ill be 10s late on my dm + KB is this right thing to do?

[grim jay]

Depends on if you will miss a DM cast due to delaying

[golden loom]

If you play imp garotte you play arterial right?

[brazen sluice]

not sure i used sims st talents and it says MA + the free shiv

[red schooner]

On sprocket?

[golden loom]

Idk I thought TTB was only for VV builds

[red schooner]

I dunno I've been VV mode

[golden loom]

Not sure tho

[red schooner]

I forget

[subtle tundra]

miau miau miau

[brazen sluice]

also top 10+ logs using VV even tho MA is simming higher in pure st so idk

[red schooner]

I'm at work otherwise I'd check, I've got the MA build saved somewhere

[golden loom]

Yeah idk logs on mobile is a bit aids

[subtle tundra]

almost like 0.5% dps doesnt really matter

[agile wedge]

i watched kush last night and he even played not with optimal st build and still pulled like 2.6mio 😄

i dont know

felt really rnd

[red schooner]

Yeah, tried to check cast timeline on mobile, went nope

[brazen sluice]

np take a look pls whenever ur free

dont look at rik logs coz i was sub and assigned far add only xD

[red schooner]

No judgement there, it's Rik, gotta do what you gotta do

[brazen sluice]

ofc

[subtle tundra]

????? ofc its random the spec has variance

[red schooner]

If it helps kill the boss then it be how it be

[subtle tundra]

bois did we leave the brain outside the discord today

[red schooner]

We had the brain inside the discord?

[subtle tundra]

hey man i cant just assume

[red schooner]

But yeah I feel like I shouldn't review it, you're further prog than I am

This week we kill sprocket for sure

Surely

[devout steppe]

Just to go into OAB JAIL

[red schooner]

I've been in prog since January I'm tired man

[near valley]

been progging since b4 the raid

that's commitment

[devout steppe]

I ve been in oab jail for 3 weeks now

I ll be glad to ser you there

[red schooner]

Queen prog straight into undermine

No break

[devout steppe]

Just dont drop the soap

[red schooner]

Just prog

[near valley]

queen prog holy

what a great P1 prog that was

[red schooner]

RFWL guilds, prog never ends

All prog all the time

[near valley]

shadow word: pain

[golden loom]

Did boss die right before kb came up or did you just miss a cast? @brazen sluice

[brazen sluice]

died before kb is up on the last and missed 1 kb due to dm had 40s left and didint cast kb coz tanks changed its position from far right to far left so i was avoiding other team

[golden loom]

Ah

Well not optimal

[brazen sluice]

yeh missed x2 dr kbs

is it 400k dps diff?

[robust axle]

Doesn’t both build send a dry shiv anyway?

[golden loom]

Probably not but its something

[golden loom]

Its not about dry shiv

Its just a minor energy save

[subtle tundra]

yes? dying and missing casts is significant

[robust axle]

Sure, just seemed like he stated that dry shiv is only used in MA builds.

But yes, 2 missed KB’s and a death could easily be 3-400k DPS, especially if it’s the KBs that lines up with adds

[golden loom]

There are no adds on sprocket

And I assume he meant boss died

Before KB came from cd

[robust axle]

Ahh thought it was Rik. You shouldn’t really miss a KB cast on Sprocket, you just delay one slightly when movement happens. Probably just poor CD cycles if he feels like he miss 400k dps.

[real pike]

I'm completely regarded what is this greater corruption stuff? what am I missing

[red schooner]

New thing coming soon, we can get head enchants, enchants do more damage

[real pike]

bigger numbers BETTER

[royal lantern]

filter evsasion is still not ok :3

[real pike]

oh lol didn't even realise there was a filter :3 I just do it automatically so as not to upset people

[normal mist]

:3

I'm allowed, I'll be a dad soon

[near valley]

:3

[normal mist]

AAAAAAHHHH IM SO HYPED

[near valley]

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I'M SO HYPED FOR YOU

[nova aspen]

now we can call u daddy

[near valley]

now?

been doing it since day 1

[normal mist]

Based

[red schooner]

How soon are we talking?

[normal mist]

November

If all goes well

[near valley]

just in time for season 3 prog

[red schooner]

Hype!

[normal mist]

Heroic prog this season was a 1 day raid

I came, I saw, I conquered

[near valley]

that's pretty decent prog wtf

[normal mist]

I'll not talk about how I joined this season extremely late and they were already at mugzee prog the day I joined and we downed Gally on 2 pulls

I was 650 by the end of the raid

[near valley]

unnescessary details dw

semantics even

[normal mist]

Words what do they mean

But again, I wasn't carried

[near valley]

you were giving ur other raiders a better chance to look good

[normal mist]

If in an overall party of 665+ I end up in 3/4th DPS every fight, with 650... I'm Gucci

[near valley]

kid's going to come out 100 parsing at this rate

[normal mist]

I love throwing this around

[near valley]

it's in his genes

[normal mist]

That's gally

[near valley]

69...nice

[zenith elm]

69 better than 99

just my opinion

[normal mist]

Right??

But I did get a 99 on ilvl

[zenith elm]

i really need to build up my parses better, especially on heroic and Mythic

[normal mist]

So I got best of both worlds

[grim jay]

[near valley]

ok hannah montana

[normal mist]

Ahahahahah

[grim jay]

I dont wanna shame you royal

[normal mist]

You can

[grim jay]

Please dont mention ilvl parses

Ily

[normal mist]

Why not

[grim jay]

[normal mist]

I love bragging about my ilvl parses

[subtle tundra]

w

[normal mist]

That mean jack shit

[subtle tundra]

any w is a w

just be happy with whatever you can

[grim jay]

My guild.. I cant even

PTSD

[normal mist]

Oh

[subtle tundra]

it is really important to find the good in everything