#assassination
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Random hot take I miss the mission table
Bring it back
(But don’t give us bis gear or anything from it)
Idk
In what way
I wish I had played outlaw on that boss but I didn't have any gear at the time for it
Was too early
Idk the boss was just a boss
We killed the boss
i liked popping mines!
i expected it to be a faster timeline and kinda welcome it now. I literally tried all 3 specs
i had a job!
and we killed then spent way too much time reclearing
glad its done
Right when sub CDs comes back
erm when electricity comes?
You have to stay behind and afk gg
Ye
After first gate
Now during reclears I seem to be getting early sets which are much more enjoyable
Grapple onto mine
Back to melee
One GCD lost
Gg
It's fun
roll out roll in
Omg staying behind on that set is depressing deluxe
jk ive killed the boss as rogue for 2 weeks now
I don't remember a tier in recent history where i only played 1 rogue spec
I litteraly grapple out grapple in
i dont get that mentality
i dont remember a tier in recent history where i swapped specs
(jk i do)
like 3 years ago
i dont accept this cooldown management spec
then uldir
fuck em
Wdym
Sub has been the prog spec since I started the game
No capo
Every tier
in tomb of sargaras it was all soaks and rogues were fucking elite at it
not this stupid cold blood, symbols, secret tech thinking spiral do i use now, do i hold do i shit the bed
and DFA was their thing
that was moved to a pvp talent
then in uldir they basically took them out back and killed them
The legion split over pruned and weirdly designed rogue which they have been fucking about on since
eh, BfA was assa
Legion was mixed bettwen assa and sub (outlaw wasnt REALLY a thing in legion tbh)
WoD was mixed aswell
smarter peopel than me probably get it but like they literally got rid of SnD
then brought it back
ye except i started in sl
so
owned?
bozo?
then forgot SIN doesnt really need to deal with it
then like last patch make an active ability passive again
very odd I guess
Vanilla combat daggers is the only true spec. Anything else is temporary.
do you like refreshing SnD, and never using another ability? then you will love this white damage spec :p
This guy gets it.
You want to use deadly poison? No get fucked, that takes up a debuff slot on the boss.
well you wanted wind fury and it over wrote it
Might get a cheeky 3 point eviscerate every now and then if your backstabs crit
Oh I played alliance, no windfury for me
Human as well, using daggers and straight up ignoring the best racial in the game.
10/10
and humans had +3 to swords so daggers would have been pretty hipster
how dare you not use thrash blade
Well swords and daggers at bis sim the same
But sword spec can parse higher with rng
SIM? you would have been lucky to find a tthotbot post
There were no Sims
(i never played vanilla, started wow last year with classic so I did sim)
Damage meters were a fuckin revelation when they came out
No sims back then, only feelcrafting on forums
No one understood just how much weapon skill mattered for mitigating glancing blows against bosses
imagine a world where everyone is OG toxic and no good info exists outside of a swifty video with a evenessence song over it
Needed that one rogue to sac all his damage do play expose armor
Take me back.
wake me up
Bis comp is 25 warriors and one IEA rogue 
Save me from the nothing I've become
39 warriors.
No healing, just defensive stance.
Retal?? How do I reck then cuh
Grizz it out til execute range and go nuts
Wait it wasnt even à defensive back then
Well its a defensive while leveling I guess but
my favorite part of old wow is that the majority of "mechanics" involved a part of the game that was entirely inperceivable by the player
Cause you just kill stuff 
You are old af no cap
Bro probably 50 by now ?
Started talked to me about legion 
Almost every boss just being a straight rank/spank
This one is different because it needs to be tanked round a corner... Wooooooooooahhhh
Shit so old we getting legion classic soon
Mop is gonna disappoint so many peopne
Yes it was à gréât expac great gameplay
Age check
But the rep farm and the dailies
I don't talk to people over 30
the best part of playing rogue was vanish was a threat drop
The best part of rogue is that you pressed tricks on mages
Having to actually use feint on vaelestrasz
Tricks?! In vanilla? Heresy.
Subtlety spec is for PVP only
Oh i wasnt about vanilla anymore
(ignore that it actually did mega damage in raid too)
Premed
Sub in raid huh
Was so gooooood
!spatter
But no one knew because combat was 'the raid spec'
I do kinda dig that 1 hour tricks for trickster
outlaw was by far the best prog spec in early legion
It was mostly because double swords were way better than any dagger you could get
so i played outlaw through all of emerald nightmare mythic
Get that double hit ya Know
and it may have made me lose my mind
oh it just scrolled a bit
you literally fucking rerolled for like no lie a minute sometimes
just gassed for energy
time to grind some more artifact power because we're nerfing outlaw 4 times in a row
and the fucking artifact power made you take MORE DAMAGE
also they had some weird abilities they got rid of
like cannon ball run?
Wasnt sub in vanilla just dying from aggro if u pressed stuff in the first 20s of à fight?
odd ghost pirate shit
i think they had parley then too the like super long cast mind control
Yeah pretty much, go mad for about 15 seconds, vanish and hope
banned
Are assa sims broken or smthn? Cause when i try to sim as assa it seems really bad compared to sub but on logs it seems a lot better?
sim number != real world number
Wdym outlaw isn't the best st spec in the geme
Use the SIM to compare gear within a spec, not against other specs
Are sims lying
Yes/no
Not opening raidbot ever again
its ok raidbot doesnt want your outlaw sim anyways
Nice socket
My DH has wrists with socket
Time to reroll
Sorry zac i didnt mean it your my most watched steamer last year
my favorite part of this tier so far is the weekly wowhead articles that have very little context for people who dont read show a wildly different "best" class
I think earlier this week it was "the era of the arcane mage"
Nice ty
Are you subbed tho
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
holy juice
since you are awake whispyr, can you do something about sin not simming the best
its really uncalled for
no
call him a bitch
literally can't
single target APL is rewritten from scratch
gave it to eleem
we didn't find anything
it's super ugly
if we were shadow priests you would be sandbagging so fucking hard and i know it
@balmy condor !!!!!
Broskis, what's with the circlet ring, we place it with 2 x 665s or na?
you dont touch it
maybe thats the long game
Okay
:p
He just wants the Sims to look worse so he has less people in the channel asking questions
I see the game plan
I spent a lot of time and effort building a new APL from 0 if its just an elaborate plan to sandbag
really committed to the lie
In too deep
Do you guys maintain 2 gear sets?
Like haste mastery of raid and crit mastery for m+?
I think i can speak for all 25 rogue mains and the 8 alts in saying i appreciate it
whats the chances its some simc number bug
at this point, almost inevitable
but we can't find it
@balmy condor I finally understand how you feel about slice sims btw, currently outlaw have precise cut talent simming like 6% ahead of other talents, except it's a low target cleave talent only, does nothing on st and does nothing in 8t or + and idk what to feel about it
yeah now imagine you had 35 talents like that
Ye
damn a talent choice as a choice for different dungeons?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hm
better in some worse in others?!?!?!
Well idk about that either
and then imagine half of those are dots and their value changes depending on how long the adds are alive
Cause it's a low target cleave talent right
and then noob bozo like zeross sims like 6.3 target 8.5 min aoe
So you would want to play it in dungeons with like st stuffs like top and shit
Except that talent is a close to 10% st loss varas
how do you even create a condition where you can have a 0 target cap
So idk it's a weird thing
then you dont play it
idk is without a trace sim numbers fake?
youre dumb
Right

i love adhomineming people
Idk what that is
insulting people as an argument in your discussion
Ye I do that
would u guys rather have 678 chest or 675 crafter dagger on offhand
Depends what the robot says
I think there is lacking context
great chuckle Ty
I thought you were friends again

I want to support him, I just don't like that he points out very obvious flaws in my work

you should subgift everytime u die cause of ks actually, that s a neat idea. Would probably x10 your viewer count nocap
the only parse that matters is the rogue healing parse on carnage
from killing yourself
Just take a shot for every ks death
with KS
Why would people care about being sub to streamers
I don't have a single emote even
no dps also, you forgot that one
Bro forgot his horcruxes
his what cruxes

dont forget on minecraft you cant enchant loyalty on your hoe
i would personnaly remove my tank for a vdh and one of the dps for a boomie
Joke besides i think double shiv is the thing you skip for IW (assuming bleed build)
When you remove double shiv do you just shiv on cd most of the time? Also with DM you send one in the start? Does it make a difference. ow that you don't have KB?
Just send on cd pretty sure
@zenith smelt "...Some common talents taken in place of Iron Wire are Sanguine Blades, which is a purely AoE option, or Twist the Knife which is mainly a burst/single target option."
that's ignoreing the five sentances before that talking about how great it is
with which i agree
Harry potter type shit
Removing sanguine blades for iron wire is.... Questionable
Double shiv is my go-to
As in, to remove.
Buuuut, take everything I say with a pinch of salt, I'm not pushing high keys and I rarely use iron wire
that one is not for bleed build, its for hybrid
hybrid doesnt have double shiv and no reasonable thing to remove
Ohhh, in that case disregard everything I said, I don't go high enough to make the extra thinking of hybrid worth it
do I see it correctly that our builds force us into either single target or multi target? Meaning that I have to actively decide if I want AoE or Boss damage, and there's not really anything in between?
because from my very very short testing, it seemed like the M+ build deals almost no damage on single target, and vice versa
Basically. You will be doing 6+m overall the entire dungeon until you reach a boss then kiss that shit goodbye lmao
or actively respecc I guess? lol
Cant respec mid dungeon unless you leave, not always an opportunity for that
oh, gotchu
Outlaw doesn't have this issue does it?
also why is Caustic Splatter so weak that it's only a small contribution to AoE? :<
There’s some ways to talent that preserves your st but it’s at either a major aoe loss or it’s only useable in like ridiculously high keys
like, if CS was good, we wouldn't need this constant respec, or do I see something wrong?
I just picked up assassination but I was kinda surprised at how little there is to do on ST in the M+ build
Unless I'm missing something
gotchu, I just started playing Sin this reset after leveling up last reset lol
thats how assa has always been
nothing to do with m+ build
I'm a hunter main so I am not complaining
feral is so much more annoying to play man
snapshotting bleeds
weve gone back in time

I kinda like it it's fun
Also the spec has a nice flow to it
!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtletly.
!stix
dont even swap to sub anymore since you cant preramp with evasion since it doesnt work anymore. Only solution is to reroll class

In M+ do people tabtarget spread their garrote in opener or just spam on one target
Sometimes, if I'm being lazy just spam it
mouseover is probably better than tabtargetting, optimally if you have more than 5 mobs you wanna apply to non bleeded targets, but lazily u can just press on main target and dont think about it
First pull of cinderbrew, pulling all three muscles and most of the pyros, kept up with the boomkin 
Mhmm, chances of tabbing to a target that already has it anyway would be pretty high I imagine
its alright i guess im just used to how easy sin is with bleed management
I swear they did some "smart tab targeting" thing in the past. Guarantee that didn't do anything 
with feral its all about big rips
with rogue its like is rupture up YEP move on to envenoms
The story of this btw is that in a world where caustic/nature damage is the predominant aoe source, assassination quickly becomes just grotesquely warped into envenom/kingsbane, which given the burst it can put out is insanely dangerous. End of Dragonflight we were reaching that point and assassination could fully obliterate a pack as long as the main target survived for the burst duration. Things like crimson tempest weren’t even taken because what was the point to have an aoe finisher when you could just caustic. Bleeds turned into purely energy batteries meant to keep the envenom train going. You just lose any depth and end up being a fok->envenom bot in aoe or a mut->envenom bot in single target, tuning all your aoe around your single target is stupid hard as well, which outlaw tends to typically gets away with by having 0 burst
Assa got a lot more bleed support with numerous rupture/tempest/demise buffs, arterial got buffed as well, caustic got a nerf. Where assa ended up this patch basically led to an open talent board with an insane amount of swaps, we have entire build archetypes and sub-archetypes within those because the talents are so fluid. I think it’s actually the prime example of a well balanced talent tree that leverages multiple ideas and spec concepts together

again, unealthy for the game, but bring back unerfed s3 kingsbane
i wana get pi and be powerfull


Now we just need something for energy downtime to be not so damn boring and it’s perfect
Like tea?
in real world dungeons how bad is it to drop lightweight shiv for iron wire? I feel like I'm either losing a lot of power from shiv not being able to save it for execute or I'm losing usages

I mean tea only works at the start you either need to not press anything regularly to not trigger it or after your three charges are on cd you are in the same situation as without them really quickly
~2%
....what?
Sorry what’s the confusion
not as big as I thought then
Like old tea
do you just send shiv on cd to maximise uses or do you aim for execute?
tf are you talking about there
its a 1min CD, your shortest burst ability has 1min aswell
what more do you want lol
endless energy so you can press mutilate mutilate envenom more often or what
I don’t want to have a situation where I sit and not press any buttons because of energy, tea usage for burst windows is perfectly fine as it is
Does it still spread even outside of stealth
I thought it just refreshes
Having energy being a nonissue is also bad but at least preferable to literally doing nothing in a fight
well outside of indiscriminate carnage that allow you to spread dots, it doesnt spread
but that makes sens
play one of the 30+ other specs in the game then
Are you really arguing that doing nothing is fun game design? As i said i don’t want energy to be meaningless but I can’t find any fun in looking at my screen waiting
Unironically bad vault
yess its mehh
Casual lmao
One sexy ring, holy
avoidance on ring??
ur ready for next season bro
Wtf you are juiced
lel
Everyone has a different perspective and there are as many specs as there are so that everyone has something they possibly like
If you dont like one, that spec just isnt for you
first of all, you heavy overreact and act as if you sit there for 10 seconds doing nothing, which is literally not the case at all, its some minor downtimes once in a while
and 2nd, yes its kinda stupid to play one of the few specs that works SLIGHTLY different with Ressources and then go "uhm, thats bad and i want it changed" when literally over 90% of the specs in the game exist and can be played like you want
id rather need to skip a few gcd's every now and then than to be forced to need every gcd and when u dont u are punished
i mean he can say his opnion
Is my ilvl enough for m+?
He can say he doesnt like it, ye, but that doesnt mean its bad in general or should get changed
what coulour is your house of cards and finger from last boss
Have you tried the dashing/lightweight shiv build zeross cooked up on TR?

cant show more cause its tournament realm
Gigachad
well as new assa i had problem with it
Btw casual
No, and no I will not elaborate
Wait actually I’ll dm u instead
That one?
Or is it a different one
but now im enjoying no energy moment
Ye that one
i can do other things
Take in the environmental design, the graphics, the music 
raid leader screaming yeah
all kind of stuff
6.4m overall in ML jesus
TR gear cranks
prob doesnt even need feint in full avoidance gear 
I knew rsham rogue would come to the spotlight
bro relax my girls on this discord
Nice what build? 
Fak
Screenshot has x2 shiv’s
delete now
Anymore exposing and they're going to nerf sub rogue and buff assa again!
dude imagine if they didnt nerf spatter by 5%
How can they tell the difference we have no dev
anyone has a rota for bleed build ?
Garrote garrote rupture rupture ct mash bleeds
and maybe a makro for rupture and garrot
is there a dung where we pref numbig over atrophic pois
You ll probably stay on current patch right?

Represent! Haha
Love watching u play @keen mantle
Casual actually just gonna play rogue full first Day so that get banned and he ll play dk for what matters

Nah, its so bad. Source: randoms get gapped if they play rogue

Well casual
Which build are you going to play? Spoil us
zeross build pumps
Green buildfor sure
all i can say
Zeross build is the truth
Still kinda unsure about meadery but I did 40% of ipas hp with it so its kinda insane
its good everywhere
Perfect funnel bosses
!rupture
Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.
You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently
Yeah and now that you death grip snap the pack by the ipa wing window onto boss
More funnel

the corner pack?
by the flamethrower
i need to get my team to do more pulls onto bosses for funnel
Mine too. My tanks a bitch
Yea u wanna Know some funnied
My tank didnt want to pull anything on bosses when i asked as assa
But when i m on arcane mage
He pulls the whole map for me
Rogue gets no love

Is ur grp also letting u solo the blobs?
If no, be ready to do 50% 
Btw master assassin is just as good there
But maybe im cooked
Garroting mobs is rly good in cinderbrew from my experience
But I guess u can do the same with double shiv build I just haven’t experimented it there yet
Will see on the 19 next week
I had a tank in priory last night pull all 4 mini bosses completely solo and I was dying inside
is there a spesific haste amount to aim for? damn sims tell me to wear haste vers ring
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
I simmed
It said to take champ tier HoS
Maybe were we playing together? I had the same experience in the same moment XD my soul left my body multiple times as I was craving to finish to get to bed ahah
I believe it
@keen mantle what's ur mdi team name so we can all watch you m8
I was the only rogue in the group, DH tank monk healer?
I mean there are quite a bunch of meh items
Did said run also take 45 minutes for a 10
And there is one of the best trinkets
Ok no, my tank was a dk..the slowest I ever seen
I think the tank was new so it's fine, it happens, but also pls, give me a little bit of aoe
Depends on the rest of your gear and all
Cos just sat there single target on the mini bosses hurt
I feel you 🫂
is Symbiosis 1% damage taken proc kick from invis?
Yo zeross how are keys going
I found this in vault wich technically is our bis but simming it I lose 3% damage 😭 is my life a lie?
I guess I can still try to run +6 for hero items and Eventually get better chest and gloves
o7
Ik I posted this earlier
But it’s super funny
omg
I want to see the ilvls
So real
Rly good
raidbots tell me that the Trinket would give me the most amount of damage than the rest
Hi
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Hello zeross
Thanks the worlds cutest twink gave it to me
I’ve been in and out
Do you have any idea who that narrows down to here
Like 20 people
I just hug him and whisper sweet things into his ear
There’s only one Vhispyr
But there are many cute twinks
Every whispyr is a cute twink but not every cute twink is a Whispyr
It was a pug, ret pal didn't trust crippling poison:/ i like garrote and bleed build in there tbh, MA Kingsbane felt nice as well its actually one of dungeons I'm having trouble identifying what is BiS
I played arcane ret assa with 2shiv and like hoooooly prio mobs got nuked
Almost too much prio i cant spatter as efficiently
But is it really tho???
Idk it feels like you can get away with it since your cds are desynced
Yeah
I think unholy arcane assa can go hard in like floodyG and cinder
Lots of places to prio and the aoe is covered by bloodbeasts
Bro it’s so fucking bullshit
All 3 mage specs have been good this tier
Blizzard really does love their mages
And I’ll never not be salty
I mean lowkey all 3 rogue specs are as well, sub just got nerfed so its only Teched in for swap shenanigans
Outlaw is good (except for bf bug)
i dont know where else to swap in sub besides last boss rookery
Real
Swapping after blazikon isnt bad, top last boss
Dashing is very nice in cleft but idk you do the last part of cleft in 2 giga pulls and 2 bosses
Kinda insane for sub rogue
And you're significantly tankier on candlenking
10% dr + 10-15% versa
Well well well
Speaking of candleking i have a question, dors atrophic work on the dot? Since they originate from the statues

Bro we're so locked in hooooly
soon soon will write up everything
That you’ll need to know for high keys
On sin rogue
Ty king i don't want to bug u to dm me the tech
Cant push until friday anyway madge
Life taking away from wow grrr
Well I just have a lot of things planned for later
Looking forward to reading about it
HOC HM better than Signet Priory ? pls
What does the robot say
Zero
Probably didnt say anything yet
U mean my discord or
?
Yes bozo
Sim it
secret tech discord 
Imma Speedrun a zerosss discord ban
The secret tech is a finisher that summons 2 shadow clones that inflict damage
Oh wait wrong secret
Hehe

Well if anyone wants to join just throw a dm will prob work on it later this week
i dm'd
NEW INFINITE DPS BUILD
INVEST NOW TILL ITS TOO LATE
NO MORE RUPTURES?? ENVENOM KS THE NEW KING?! 999 MILLION EVENOMS CRITS 
xdd
wtf thats mine
Hmm needs a shocked reaction face next to it for the algo

thats not a clickbait title 
No bleeds build
Bro imagine if in the end
dm me, no scam
Full circle
Zac is funny as hell whenever he’s about to go to bed
Literally turns to a -100 iq sin rogue
Let's get rid of poisons as well send full naked envenoms, damage distribution with only melee, mutilate and envenom
Damn above average
Gotta harness that overtired into lockin into sleep combo
That one last key at 7am
Thats where the io is made
i wonder where title io is at currently
Yeah I guess my trinket HoC give me the most dmg despite being champ tier
is it worth to send rupture on bandits adds? for energy pooling?
dont wanna scare u or anything but u also got a bis trinket in this vault
(mechanocore)
I also have machanocore equiped
pirate summon isn't bis?? but 2 people > 1 people??
thats some plot twist 

yet it does more dmg
Imagine hoc not on mythic 
u will take it in 2 weeks anyway
imagine raiding mythic without mythic progress
Couldnt be me
when do you use trinket anyway? In stealth, out of stealth?
DM window
yw
rivals the lettuce/onion/tomato/mayo/double patty combo
2 all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese on a sesame seed bun
Sorry for really noob questions, is Mutilate the only way to apply caustic spatter?
ambush also works
Im assuming caustic spatter is pretty high prio in aoe situations like m+?
It should literally always be up yes
I started rogue 3 days ago and like an ape I was using hekili because I didn't expect to like it so much.
But it literally never has me using mut in aoe situations.
I've turned it off last night.
What is the ideal opener in an aoe pull.
Big first pull in priory for example?
Stealth -> ambush -> garrotex2 -> rupture -> mut -> rupture -> FoK till 7 cp then CT?
To build combo points you'd priotize them like this:
applying spatter > spreading garrotes on targets that dont have > fok
Spatter is only necessary on prio target?
You can only have 1
Should I be tab target when spreading garote or just continue using on prio target?
will they ever rework assa to not be entirely based on target debuffs
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
U can mouseover ur garrotes and ruptures
rotation section
Hopefully not, if anything i hope they make it more debuff (ie bleed) based
Spatter doesnt feel as good as big bleeds imo
spatter exists on bleed build as well though
Which do you recommend? WH or IV?
thats fine but having major cooldowns be target-applied and not self buffs is just
ehhhhh
wowhead,very good
is there even another dps spec that has to deal with that
Thank you 🙏
Arcane
Probably others too
But also like, deathmark doesnt matter that much for aoe damage
Kb target dying tho makes me sadge
yea but losing uses of your sync'd pot/trinket bc you dont have good deathmark targets
sucks
UDK looks kinda the same doesnt it
Common kingsbane L, play without it 
Huh? Isnt it like apply wounds, pop em or if target dies u get the benefit anyway
Singular focus dam though 
Thats deathstalkers mark
Not deathmark 
SR and debuffs and all
I can read /s 
about the same

hekili doesn't even spatter 
Havent paid 2 much attention but bleed instead of hybrid is the go to now in m+? Saw Casual mention zerossbuild?? Last epoch and poe stole my time 😂
If youre not playing +17s play bleed 
I just wondered what he cooked
if this was a trick to make me read the uhdk wowhead guide congrats
I have it but I am not looking too much at it, I thought it uses a mutilate once in a while to refresh spatter
You just said the H word
we dont do that here friend
Same as last season, more prio damage focused hybrid ish build
Guys! Whuch would you chose between myth dagger with wrong secondary (I have guilded craftes and hero 6/6) or myth legs (I have hero 6/6 and we haven't killed Stix yet). I'm tempted to pick the legs since it's a big stat budget slot and I can just recraft my dagger with the matrix when .7 hits. Thoughts?
So ttw and ma?
what is a wrong secondary
should be bannable offence in this sacred discord
assa has no "wrong" secondary stats
I know, like I said i was just dabling with rogue, I didn't expect to like it so much so I was using the addon that shall not be named.
Then I noticed last night it literally never as me applying caustic spatter in AOE
So I deleted it
Singular focus this, singular focus that, how about you singular focus some bitches
Doesnt this mean u can get rik loot? Id wait for him to drop dagger i guess
she has ronkles
We all do
He’s borderline part of the huzz like u king
Ooh, don't remember exactly, at work right now, just thought I get more inputs.
quake you are too advanced in your years to be saying huzz
Do we pool for raid as well?
I'm not sure Ronkles has Ronkles at this point tbh, that boi is too kind with his time
LOL
there are no wrong secondaries
is the point
your main hand should be 678 if at all possible
Ronk not rly a boi,more like a legend
There is also yap about Dashing and no imp garrote / MA, but again probably don't worry about it
I agree but I love him. He’s such a great lad
Don't let him believe this
His ego can't handle it
He's just a baby boi
Sass me again and I’ll shut ur lips with mine king
(Also I know I hate it here)
IF YOU DONT KNOW YOU DO NOW
quick question,
so after you've used both shivs during the KB window
Delete this number
do you just hold onto your next shiv, or send it
you should save 2 shivs for every DM window
full coverage of the window
you can use 1 shiv for a dry shiv in lingering darkness
and then use 1 shiv during the non-dm kb
second question
in single target you use both charges for KB windows (there is a small minmax with dry shivs but you can read up on that yourself)
AoE is bit more tricky you can techincally use them for AoE dmg if you are specced into Aterial precision if not then just with KB as normal
and if you only run 1 charge of shiv you use it so it covers the ending of KB
did stealthu just write all this 
No
i was god's strongest iw defender last season
I did and sent it to him
and always have 2x charges for DM
is there any gameplay around trying to bank your tea when you start to get low on energy and you're 20-30 seconds away from your next KB window
You were never god’s strongest iw defender then
I’ve not talented out (my damage suffers)
you pool 2-3 seconds before kb
that's all
even if i've got almost no energy?
and pool with 5+ cp so you can envenom > shiv > kb
yea the whole point of pooling is to have energy to spam envenoms during kb
being starved outside ur cds doesn't matter
Patchwerk ST, dungeon slice m+
thanks
Hold up. We don’t dry shiv anymore?
The above convo. Nevermind
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
You always tea with shiv?
Something like that idk
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
we get a nerfed this week?? my dps is so low
nope
the zeross build is bait btw
i tried it in my weekly no leaver 60 death +7 vault key
and I was doing tank damage
someone has finally said it
I mean kind of
When you’re pulling 800 things your build will likely perform very different than normal ass keys
But I also believe in my goat and know he’d never gaslight an entire community
No details screen shot. No good.
Gaslighting? Where did you learn that wordddd?
Also bote > iris
It’s not even a real word Ruby I don’t know what you’re saying

guys it seems when i sim the Bleed Build in raidbots,it seems a lot better to have more haste
it tells me to change gems to haste ones
yep
and to change some items which they give Crit mastery to Haster Mastery/crit
i mean i go for that or is just on sims
who played it in mdi?
ain’t no way
^
he has another one above that one
its not bait
it is in low keys tho
Sending overall before last boss is nasty work
Nice try padding mate
I see trough it
hey man anything for the narrative
TELL THAT FRAUD
Disgusting behavior actually
GET HIM!
I would be ashamed
can remove 400-500k
kek
ill remove 2.6mil
Ye
for fraudiant behavior
that works
Don't try to fool us
i mean

(same)
Admitting to Outlaw maxxing smh
Last really dumb question, for now.
My m+ group struggles with boss damage.
We normally run Guardian, Ret, UH, Fury/Dev, Rsham.
Which rogue spec would fit in best for boss damage?
Were timing 14s and working on 15s
slow dk
TR gear is juiced
idk if i like it or no, but at the end i m not impacted by it so enjoy it i guess
@keen mantle team name so I can hate watch?
Overall frauds

Padding demons
blizzard balance goes brrt
These are some good names no cap
best name
Overall before boss
only team i root for is Ducks Can Fly
could be worse he didn't do the legion drjay
pulling onto boss is ethical
reset details before 40mob pull
Jay still does that
since its funneling its ethical
Based tho
tbf i wouldnt know, i havent watched him since legion xD
that math aint mathin
He uses all of his IQ to be a details knower, and has nothing left for 
Just did a dungeon as assa and my stealth kept being removed. What's up with that?
I don't have this problem as outlaw
Affix is shit
Play higher keys so you don't have affixes
Nvm that was last week affix
Probably same shit with this week affix tho
The balls remove stealth?
bro just wants to trash on other specs
!wa
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Well a bad alt if u had some kind of same gear

yeah he was like 663-4 something
pretty high for doing that damage
dfc
He was a really bad sub player then xD
well yeah sub isnt really one of the specs you can just activate and do damage on
nice damage, can u share build, stats?
his build? or mine
your
oh
the assa
oh yeah
do we need more haste for bleed build ?
how was the tour casual
insane
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