#assassination

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humble verge
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!richard

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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and it's not close honestly

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it's also better in execute

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a notable amount even

haughty flicker
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ok so i got biated by st sim

humble verge
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time to edit this whisp

balmy condor
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I can't edit shit my internet is dying

humble verge
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into "why is evasion not working"

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ok but

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go edit it

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or ill post another mp4

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actually they are all on my pc and im in bed so i cant

glossy remnant
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
keen spruce
hollow river
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Quite a few people have brought this up, but it’s also worked for others so there’s no telling

worthy rose
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hope everyone had a good vault day

hidden bay
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Next main raid is on Sunday, they better fix till then

coral ibex
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worked fine in LFR today

silk sundial
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What is the M Bandit coin order ya'll are doing to have less adds to deal with?

dreamy grail
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adding to the evasion thing, not working on M rik

tawdry root
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yeah M rik for sure not working for me

haughty flicker
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definitely not working on rik

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solo lied to us

sly yoke
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!mutilate

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can someone link a macro like this but with mutilate

spice surge
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./cast mutilate

buoyant herald
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what do you want the macro to do?

spice surge
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Blindside automically transforms mutilate into ambush

buoyant herald
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just put ambush on the same spot on your stealth bar, and it'll autoswap on blindside proc

sly yoke
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want my mutilate to go into ambush

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when I have subd

kind helm
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if i got a myth weapon should i use 675 crafted in offhand? it has darkmoon embelishment

coral ibex
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4 jastor diamonds!!

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gusty mirage
kind helm
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ty

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
gusty mirage
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@drifting cloud

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drifting cloud
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80min for reclear vault

worthy rose
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mythic seraphic wraps

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just catalysted it coz yolo

hidden bay
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If I don’t have sprocket cloak, rik neck or mythic jastor in it I’ll nuke my char

maiden sierra
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when does eu reset again?

hidden bay
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1h I think

dreamy rover
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hey smart dudes

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how many CPs should I use for rupture sniping?

runic hinge
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69

balmy condor
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whatever you want

dreamy rover
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more cp

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more energy

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correct?

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its based on duration when mob dies correct?

runic hinge
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Yes but it also takes more energy to generate. Don’t forget

balmy condor
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more duration specifically, but yes those end up being the same

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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if you're not sure, be below 50% and use 5cp

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that's the baseline

dreamy rover
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alright

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then flex if really low energy

balmy condor
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well if really low energy it would still be 5cp

hidden bay
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@balmy condor when next stream

dreamy rover
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hmm

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ok

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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perfect

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ty whosoeprier

hidden bay
dreamy rover
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and tony nugzz thanks also

hidden bay
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You done already

balmy condor
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comcast decided not today

cerulean walrus
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Classic

dreamy rover
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lul

balmy condor
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LOOKING GOOD!

dreamy rover
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that fucking spaceship next to it

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insulting

ivory latch
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"Speedy Downloads"

balmy condor
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the self control I needed

dreamy rover
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lmao

balmy condor
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to not send my fist straight through my monitor

dreamy rover
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blazing fast

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FUCK OFF!!!!

ivory latch
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what are you supposed to be getting?

balmy condor
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1300 down

ivory latch
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ouch

dreamy rover
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biggest garf moment ive ever seen

balmy condor
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I have been fighting comcast on this

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for 5 months now

hidden bay
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Just stream some 4K videos bro

near valley
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Speedy Downloads ⬇️

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get those numbers up rook

balmy condor
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6 technicians, 16 support calls, 3 escalations, 2 case managers

near valley
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comcast using ass

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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and none of them believe me when I tell them it's their fucking problem

hollow river
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how would it not be their problem lmfao

dreamy rover
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its about time you ambush > garrote > rupture the technician next time he comes over

balmy condor
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my setup btw, I'll run the connection from my PC/devices backwards

near valley
balmy condor
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so my devices are connected to a modem, a comcast modem, that they sent

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with new 2.5g lan cables

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the modem is coax ran under my house to the box outside

near valley
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how much you pay for comcast?

balmy condor
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that's new, replaced by comcast

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they also replaced EVERYTHING in the box

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tap, drop, splitter

dreamy rover
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ffs that must be so infuriating

balmy condor
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the service line from the box to the telephone pole

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also new, replaced by comcast

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the amplifier for me and my neighbors, also replaced

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the faceplates, also replaced

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the service lines to my neighbors had animal bites, so they thought maybe interference, so those are also new

dreamy rover
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most likely its some sort of serious infrastructure-related problem that they cba to fix yet, because not affecting enough people + too expensive

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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but idk anything about the matter

balmy condor
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and the dude he called in a favor with looked at it for all of 10 minutes and was like oh yeah the node that entire neighborhood sits on is shit

runic hinge
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Hey Starlink said I could recommend for family and friends if you want that kekW

balmy condor
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so

dreamy rover
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ffs

dreamy rover
runic hinge
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Yeah

coral ibex
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got a myth boe

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dont need to boost this week

dreamy rover
balmy condor
cerulean walrus
drifting cloud
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if I was there to lovewatch comcast would have worked

charred summit
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
drifting cloud
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My bad

balmy condor
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it's okay ryler

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I'll pop up a sleep stream

dreamy rover
runic hinge
balmy condor
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you can whisper sweet nothings to me while I sleep

dreamy rover
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is it a really expensive thing?

balmy condor
runic hinge
dreamy rover
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rip

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but at least you have something thats a win in my book

runic hinge
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Only happened 3 times this season

dreamy rover
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ah so not that common

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was it during rainy days too?

balmy condor
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plot twist, those were the only 3 clouds this season and he's getting skull fucked by global warming

runic hinge
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Rain is usually fine it’s snow that can take me out the whole day

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It has a warning function but sometimes it doesn’t keep up

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I went on the roof once this year to help clear it off

near valley
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starlink is hella clutch if ur in an area with shite internat infrastructure

runic hinge
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For raid

dreamy rover
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thats the situation im in

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but trying a few other fixes before giving in to the gazillionaire's satelite internet

runic hinge
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To be fair I’ve had it for like 5 years now. I got it in beta so I didn’t realize he was quite this bad of a person then

near valley
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a lot of what you buy is likely made by a bad person tbh

coral ibex
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there's no ethical consumption under capitalism NODDERS

balmy condor
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I mean there's also a difference between a general greedy bad person

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and a literal cartoon supervillain

coral ibex
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yea hes an actually evil gorillionaire

earnest remnant
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im the 2nd one

dreamy rover
nova kelp
dreamy rover
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but also feel like calling him a "nazi" is very radicalized

coral ibex
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no

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he sieg heil'd

dreamy rover
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and you gotta be braindead to think he was actually doing a nazi salute there

balmy condor
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yeh doing nazi salutes is something normal people do

dreamy rover
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not even defending him

near valley
dreamy rover
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but do you guys

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really think

balmy condor
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yes

near valley
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look

dreamy rover
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he's that stupid?

balmy condor
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yes

near valley
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lets not go down this hole

nova kelp
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UUUUHHH NOOOOOOOOOO he was just THROWING HIS HEARt OUT TO THE CROWD

dreamy rover
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yhea you guys are pretty radicalized

near valley
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we came from comcast to this

dreamy rover
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i hate the dude

near valley
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that's a full circle

dreamy rover
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but thats not a nazi salute

balmy condor
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okay mate

dreamy rover
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hes just kinda braindead

low thicket
balmy condor
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whatever you wanna believe you saw I guess

dreamy rover
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btw im jewish

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😄

balmy condor
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good for you I guess I'm german

near valley
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natural allies

nova kelp
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also, you're also talking about a guy who told the world he's one of the top POE hardcore gamers

earnest remnant
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am raccoon

nova kelp
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so yeah

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probably that stupid

earnest remnant
dreamy rover
near valley
dreamy rover
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but he has expressed support for the jewish community multiple times, hires/employs a bunch of jewish people, and generally hasnt ever displayed any nazi discourse or anything like that

near valley
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11.1.7 better have good patch notes

dreamy rover
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just because he moved his hands in a wrong way doesnt make him a nazi in my books

near valley
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otherwise we'll have more 4 am convos like these

drifting cloud
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sorry everyone you have to find our this way ... But stealthi isnt a raccoon hes been lying to everyone

near valley
dreamy rover
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but hes still top 1 worse people this year

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for sure

near valley
dreamy rover
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he's sniped the title

near valley
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proof?

near valley
dreamy rover
near valley
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@earnest remnant are these allegations true?

balmy condor
hidden bay
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Can only be German if you are here

near valley
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i thought that crab was eating calamari

balmy condor
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guess I'm not then

earnest remnant
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am raccoon

hidden bay
balmy condor
hidden bay
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You can only be German if you live in Germany

drifting cloud
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Yannick sound like an american name to me tbh

balmy condor
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yeah and Müller for sure

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they have umlauts in english right

near valley
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the hell is an umlaut

balmy condor
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my family definitely didn't have to anglicize our names for my documentation when I was born

balmy condor
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äüö

drifting cloud
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Is it a Y or a J

balmy condor
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J

dreamy rover
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its really cool to know your family's history like that

drifting cloud
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my bad

balmy condor
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np

earnest remnant
dreamy rover
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my surname doesnt have a H on it because I have greek descendants and greek alphabet apparently doesnt have an H

balmy condor
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not something I just expect people to rip raw from memory KEKL

drifting cloud
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Raccoon is choking on his letters

balmy condor
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when one of my ancestors built the original like stone ass wall outside of our city

near valley
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oh look at this guy

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he's got history

dreamy rover
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thats insane

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14th century

balmy condor
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yeh

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and we've been in that little german hamlet every since

dreamy rover
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and you got dropped in the US out of nowhere?

balmy condor
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until 1998 when my parents decided to move to america for a tech job and then my mom gave birth to me

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and then stayed

dreamy rover
near valley
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fuck knows my family history

hidden bay
near valley
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but i can guess the last 200 weren't in the US

hidden bay
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Born in the us

balmy condor
coral ibex
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ok uh i think they patched evasion on mythic rythic

hidden bay
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Denied

coral ibex
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i swear it worked on LFR earlier but i def just got stunned during evasion on my mythic opener

dreamy rover
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my parents also moved to USA for tech job during the early 2000s, I was born there but then they came back to brazil after garf

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bad country roll

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its like rolling a 99 and getting out-rolled by a 100

dreamy rover
coral ibex
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yea might be mythic only

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dont like that

dreamy rover
near valley
balmy condor
dreamy rover
near valley
dreamy rover
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fucking crazy thing is, if USA's economy goes sideways, the rest of the whole world gets fucked too

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its crazy

drifting cloud
balmy condor
dreamy rover
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trump has to fucking CHILL

near valley
coral ibex
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not likely

dreamy rover
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elon has to be fired immediately from any govt roles

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and trump has to CHILLLLL

balmy condor
coral ibex
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trump is a known chiller yes

dreamy rover
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like take it back a billion notches

gritty laurel
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chillest mans alive

dreamy rover
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idk

near valley
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it always defaults to politics

coral ibex
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i gotchu

hidden bay
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Go into off topic Channel

coral ibex
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chat how do i do more damage on rik

dreamy rover
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LET ME TALK ABOUT POLITICS IN MY SPEC SUB-CHANNEL PLEASE

balmy condor
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true garf

coral ibex
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my raid leader says i'm dumb for playing assassination rogue

balmy condor
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life is misery and world is shit

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is what it is

coral ibex
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how do i tell him to suck me from the back

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but not get benched

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any tips?

dreamy rover
gritty laurel
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tell him to vacuum you from the posterior

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nobody could be mad at that

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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i cant lie

coral ibex
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i literally offered to sit for first 4 bosses

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and they said no

near valley
hidden bay
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Tell him no one is allowed to touch adds garf_sit

coral ibex
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get ur ass in there

near valley
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aka me

dreamy rover
near valley
dreamy rover
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(literally get your ass in here)

coral ibex
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why are we here

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dreamy rover
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(you ass specced rogue)

coral ibex
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just to suffer?

dreamy rover
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gl soldier

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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make sure to grief other people grabbing trash

gritty laurel
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get that hyena dps

dreamy rover
sweet plover
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guys, do i drop sub and hit the main spec now?

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is it that much better?

balmy condor
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if you want to I guess

dreamy rover
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when the president is aware of brainrot surely country gets better

balmy condor
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does it matter for your gameplay

near valley
balmy condor
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what are you doing that would require you change specs

near valley
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whether by choice or not

sweet plover
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mythic mugz prog and reclears

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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sin is really that strong tbh

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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mug has everything

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snipes

balmy condor
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okay well that's not true, denathrius existed

dreamy rover
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caustic cleave

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love it

balmy condor
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but it's pretty close

dreamy rover
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yhea

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fight me

sweet plover
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is assa easier to play than sub? havn't played assa yet

balmy condor
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yes

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assa is pisseasy

dreamy rover
gritty laurel
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i don't have to fight you, i'll just spectate you traveling in the maw in 9.0

near valley
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introducing it to my training regime of doing fuck all

dreamy rover
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just need to learn the basic skill/buffs/talents interactions and you'll blast

sweet plover
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suppose i start recrafting 😦

dreamy rover
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opener is pretty easy also

dreamy rover
balmy condor
dreamy rover
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i was on that recrafting boat

balmy condor
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just hit N

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and swap

sweet plover
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but i have all vers mast gear

balmy condor
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that's fine

dreamy rover
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i simmed myself, the best iteration of recrafts was worth 15k dps OMEGAKEKW

sweet plover
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its easy to recraft

dreamy rover
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thunda just change your ring

sweet plover
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ok

dreamy rover
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that will 100% balance the stats out for sure

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or neck

balmy condor
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we are assa rogues, secondary stats are fake

dreamy rover
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whichever one isnt crafted

near valley
hollow river
gritty laurel
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basically the only thing that matters is getting mastery to the highest rating if you use priory trinket, and the sim will tell you that

sweet plover
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ahh nice, ill get simming

hollow river
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here

near valley
sweet plover
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Im using myth pacemaker and hero hoc

gritty laurel
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BBL rogue, fake assa everywhere

balmy condor
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no issues then

dreamy rover
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heroic

balmy condor
woeful lantern
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how do we deal with ascendant affix?

dreamy rover
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idk game is fucking buggy

coral ibex
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hmmm

balmy condor
hollow river
coral ibex
hollow river
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legit like 10 people have brought it up tonight

woeful lantern
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the balls that need to be stunned / intd

balmy condor
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oh

runic hinge
balmy condor
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you aoe blind on a mob

sweet plover
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blind?

balmy condor
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not an orb

gritty laurel
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for orbs you target a mob rather than the orb

balmy condor
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otherwise not your problem

dreamy rover
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yesterday our raid's warlocks werent able to apply 2 separate wither dots to the boss OMEGAKEKW only 1 of them could apply wither '

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dollar company btw

gritty laurel
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and you crank the fuck out of CT on bosses when the orbs spawn

near valley
dreamy rover
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but sucks that it even happened in the 1st place

sweet plover
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is bleed build decent for 10-13 keys?

near valley
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unintended side affect of a hotfix

coral ibex
hollow river
coral ibex
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its good for all keys tbh

sweet plover
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kk

gritty laurel
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bleed build is more than decent

coral ibex
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except maybe rank 1 push keys

dreamy rover
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yhea im doing 14s and TRYING to do 15s w/ bleed build all the way

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i dont even get these dudes playing a weird ass forced induction build

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like??

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how is something that sims much less

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supposed to be better

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i really dont get it

balmy condor
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big st

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also depends how you sim it kinda

gritty laurel
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i've seen a lot of folks in this channel try to "fix" single target in M+ builds by sacrificing aoe, i figure some of them actually know what they're doing with their group comp

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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generally speaking yes

dreamy rover
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and its still worse on dslice

balmy condor
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correct

dreamy rover
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boom

hidden bay
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Can’t sim it correct as our TC guys are trash garf_sit only good ones are the cooked dh guys

dreamy rover
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how will it perform well?

balmy condor
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cause sims aren't the end all be all

runic hinge
short pine
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yall target momma robot on floodgate or 1 add and then vanish when they down

sweet plover
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i might have to change some stats, sub is simming 200k higher.....

dreamy rover
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so the "new build" dracthyr_kek is hybrid with forced induction and ttk?

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all to get a bit more st

near valley
hidden bay
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Are we still playing bleed??

balmy condor
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and no improved garrote

near valley
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if you got an unholy cranking shit up

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i could see it

dreamy rover
gritty laurel
sweet plover
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true

dreamy rover
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does the "new" build out perfom sub on st?

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no

near valley
dreamy rover
near valley
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it's a punishment

dreamy rover
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sub still better on bosses

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even without skyfury

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you cant change my mind

sweet plover
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i agree with that

gritty laurel
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yeah but i can rip a fat CT on every pack so who cares

dreamy rover
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SUCKS TO SUCK I GUESS

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WHEN IS NEXT SUB SEASON IM GOIN GRAZY

hidden bay
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About to rip a fat one aswell garf_sit ifyouknowhatimean

balmy condor
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it was sub season for all of dragonflight

near valley
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likely never

balmy condor
near valley
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stay small sub

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outlaw time soon

balmy condor
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and also all of shadowlands

near valley
balmy condor
dreamy rover
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we need SHADOWDUST BACK FFS

balmy condor
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okay calm down satan

near valley
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lol

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lmao even

dreamy rover
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dude you cant tell me

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it added

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500 layers of cd management complexity to the spec

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pulling your cds whenever you wanted was insane man

near valley
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i remember having stealthi's google doc to push to my mrt for raid

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shit was not it

dreamy rover
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maybe some people didnt like it

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yhea loll

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DF sub was hardest spec ever created

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and please dont argue with me on this because i know it all

near valley
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the good old early DF sub

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of just spamming the same shit

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it went hard

dreamy rover
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sin w/o subterfuge is kek

sweet plover
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so how do we obtain burst with boss fights with adds, eg bandit

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do we dot hard

rotund oak
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this is the pirate channel starege

dreamy rover
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deathmark + kingsbane cooldown windows

rotund oak
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or nvm it isnt

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thought i had descended into madness

dreamy rover
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did you just

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surrender to madness?

rotund oak
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priest is fine but truth is

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playing 20 years rogue

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prolly surrendered long ago

rotund oak
silk sundial
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@balmy condor what coin order is your group doing on bandit? I'd rather play sin for boss funnel but it sounds like the rl wants sub for add dmg

balmy condor
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we're doing the speed strat

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so no gold fixate adds

runic hinge
near valley
runic hinge
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I think sub has just one thing too many but I’m kinda enjoying it right now either way

near valley
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having cp overflow is so nice

runic hinge
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I have ideas of how I’d make it better for myself but idk if true sub enjoyers would like it

novel star
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lacking entertainment someone’s gotta talk about some bullshit fast

earnest remnant
coral ibex
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aint that some bullshit

dreamy rover
woven ruin
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What is the best defensive for the bombs on Lockenstock?

wet spire
iron vigil
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How are we spiking in damage on the cauldron of carnage fight around the 4:30 mark?

novel star
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flippin

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love dat for u

worn geyser
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtletly.
coral ibex
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!richard

prisma monolithBOT
silk merlin
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Sigil of Algari Concordance myth track is a sim bait correct?

rotund oak
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its not the best trinket but depends what u are replacing

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a high ilvl should still beat any significantly lower one

silk merlin
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i have pacemaker hero track and priory

rotund oak
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i dont think it can win a 665 pacemaker or priory

silk merlin
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with ST talens for raid it simmed 200k more damage replaced with pacemaker, so i was like aint no way this dogwater trinket brings that

rotund oak
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do we have the sim still?

silk merlin
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yes

runic hinge
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Lmao I had it myth in my vault today and didn’t even sim it

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Cause I was like fuuuck that

dreamy rover
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!dm

runic hinge
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I needed a socket for my myth helmet anyways

silk merlin
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finaly when a trinket drops from vault its like one of the worst ones.... all vaults since week 1 has been absolute ass, and all my other chars get's bis loot 😂

rotund oak
#

stopped caring about vaults was the best thing i did

#

i still have the most obnoxious luck on my mage

#

idk

#

i breathe and loot bis

silk merlin
#

dm'ed the sim @rotund oak if you wanted to look at it

rotund oak
#

cool checking it

#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
dreamy rover
#

PRAYING for mechano core from bounty rn

silk merlin
#

giga trinket for assa rouges or? i havent bothered with delves

rotund oak
#

im hunting that cookie as well

#

its a good one

#

also your sim doesnt look weird

#

u got the proper build

#

so Shrugeg

#

only thing is the wpn enchants but they are still good for overall

silk merlin
#

im mostly playing m+ that's the best for it no?

rotund oak
#

for m+ yeah its x2 radiant power

#

still good for overall anything so its not a big deal

silk merlin
#

spending gold to change enchants 2 times in a week. fck that

dreamy rover
#

dont worry about enchants lol

#

thats so irrelevant

#

if you got 2x rank 3 enchants, youre good

#

depths or radiant

rotund oak
#

yeah cant see something sus

#

your gear looks fine,your talents look fine

stable pasture
#

Finally Mythic pacemaker... I have ascended...

nova kelp
#

should probably consult a heart specialist

low thicket
#

Need a mythic pacemaker watching my guild fuck up mechanics 🙂

nova kelp
lean galleon
#

is there a command for WAs or am I just blind

red schooner
prisma monolithBOT
silk merlin
#

the pain.... i rolled 1 on the eye of kezan

buoyant herald
#

overrated imo

royal lantern
#

socket vault poggers

runic hinge
#

Same

hearty seal
#

legend chest
not terrible

restive glade
#

something ive been noticing in raid is this bastard energy area I fall into and idk what to do

opener of mark+kingsbane, 1min later I do dry shiv, 1min till mark+kingsbane up, 40sec before im energy starved (keeping up bleeds) but idk if i just keep pressing buttons and have no energy for mark+kingsbane.

any ideas

hearty seal
#

!energy

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

wispy epoch
#

You get lots of energy from mark

nova kelp
#

he's tlaking about a little bit after mark

#

and yeah, it just is what it is

wispy epoch
#

Can also rupture snipe an add that’s about to die

#

If there’s any adds in the fights

restive glade
#

so 3-4 sec before king+mark dont cast anything and dps better. sometimes I sit at max combo for large envenom before going into mark+king but it just feels so awkward

def gotta rupture snipe more yeah

nova kelp
#

imo bring back zoomer sin - bnt our lord and savior doesn't like the design theory of zoomer sin so maybe I'm wrong

balmy condor
hearty seal
#

nah I'll die on the hill of "this is literally the class with 1 second baseline GCD, and you made one spec of it not utilize that 1 sec GCD for half the fights? stoopid"

balmy condor
#

sitting on darkest night is bad

golden loom
#

I mean there are so many other fast specs if you want speed

nova kelp
#

yeah but also

#

no

#

I hear you

#

but no

golden loom
#

Resources mattering is good

#

Otherwise just remove energy

hearty seal
#

resources mattering is good when you can play around them

wispy epoch
hearty seal
#

right now, the only play there is is rupture sniping

#

otherwise you're just full (AoE) or will run out (ST with no adds)

golden loom
#

And then in your cooldowns you have energy again

#

Which makes sense

restive glade
# balmy condor you should be insta consuming your marks

so
a: always consume cp to get deathstalker marks to get to darkest night
b: sometimes chill out on using cp/casting when energy starved -> i think give more dps but im sure I'm wrong

a > b always? is there ever a time b > a?

hearty seal
dreamy rover
#

this guy is such a poser

balmy condor
#

b is not a thing

subtle tundra
#

miaw

nova kelp
dreamy rover
wispy epoch
#

I dont resource pool even on ST. What if I get a mechanic and hit energy cap while going to do it

subtle tundra
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamdireoqidjc eyr gh ! ! ! ! WOAHHHHHHHH

dreamy rover
#

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

#

U KIVE VARA SGANINDGH

#

I LKDFOVE VARA S GAMING

hearty seal
# golden loom Otherwise just remove energy

ngl I think they don't really know what to do with energy
sin has it that way where you don't really manage it
outlaw should never run out if played properly
sub...haven't touched sub much, but apparently they also don't really run out?

nova kelp
golden loom
#

Sub is like sin in the way that you have energy in cds

restive glade
#

yeah I'm never dropping deathstalker marks and consuming darkest night asap but either I'm stupid or maybe i'm not saying my q correctly

sometimes I think I shouldn't cast anything to chill for mark+kingsbane or solo kingsbane window, is it wrong to think this

nova kelp
#

just only when they're not in dance

golden loom
#

Which is good design

balmy condor
golden loom
#

Outlaw not running out is fine cause thats its nieche, but if all 3 rogue specs were like that it would be cringe imo

dreamy rover
subtle tundra
dreamy rover
#

MUCH LES SENERGY ON SUB FOR SURE MAN1!!!

nova kelp
#

sub outside of dances is just like ... go make a coffee or some shit

#

you have that little energy

dreamy rover
#

AUTO ATTACK FIESTA AMIRITE

restive glade
#

perfect simple stupid rule I can follow ty varas 🤝 , in solo kb window just chill ~3s before then mash buttons ok

dreamy rover
#

HEEELLLL UHEA BABY

golden loom
balmy condor
#

that's what the command said SAD

subtle tundra
#

i dont do it cause idgaf but if it activates your brain receptors, do it

dreamy rover
#

wisper

#

man

#

you reall nheed

#

to fix

#

the !commands thing

balmy condor
#

my brain

#

yes

#

can't

dreamy rover
#

no!

#

brain feels good

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

it hit character limit

#

and I am not the bot coder

dreamy rover
#

CALL THJE GUY

nova kelp
#

let's talk about something simple, like good m+ builds

dreamy rover
#

💔

hearty seal
# golden loom Which is good design

eh, I dunno
I just don't like the idea that you basically don't actually play around energy anymore, you just have it when you need it most, and when you don't, you don't
like the actual optimization is just chugging a tea early to have it always up for KBs, and a slgiht bit of pooling

restive glade
#

i read it and re-said what cmd said but y'all said more comments so got confused 🐒

balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

he is omniscient

dreamy rover
#

fuu has wekaura

#

for discord people

subtle tundra
dreamy rover
#

or eleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem

#

eleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem

nova kelp
#

legend has it, if you say his name 3 times in the mirror, he will shadowstrike you

dreamy rover
#

trash spec

nova kelp
#

I luff sub 😦

subtle tundra
#

actually i dreamt i played sub today

#

so

#

it was weird

dreamy rover
#

SUB IS THE BEST SPEC

#

BUT ITS SO BUNS

#

SO BACD

#

UNDERTUNED UNDER APPRECIATED

nova kelp
#

bring back ToS sub

#

and antorus sin 😛

#

the fok version HAHAHAHAH

hearty seal
#

tbh I find it hard to talk design because the last rogue design I remember actually playing is like
Cata combat and Wrath sin

#

so I'm not sure what actually happened between those and TWW

dreamy rover
#

UNC

runic hinge
#

Bring back SL s3 sin with 1 min vendetta exsang and ct in ST

#

I’ll be there

subtle tundra
cedar flicker
#

I miss legion sub with legendary boots

nova kelp
#

ew

hearty seal
#

all I know is

nova kelp
#

don't bring back anything slands

runic hinge
hearty seal
#

make CloS 1 min CD again plox

subtle tundra
#

duskwalkers + obedience
1 min assa

golden loom
runic hinge
dreamy rover
#

BURST OF SPEED

#

😍

hearty seal
#

burst of speed looked good ngl

nova gust
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
hearty seal
#

dunno how it played, but 15 energy for 4 seconds of 70% movespeed sounds like a dream

#

at no CD lmao

dreamy rover
#

help me man please man @balmy condor

#

please help me

subtle tundra
#

bonespike + deathspike..... goated button

dreamy rover
#

how and why and when and who is that demise maxxing guy

golden loom
#

From what I've seen tho, mutilate rogue on SoD legit cant spend its energy fast enough and it looks very cringe imo

dreamy rover
#

help me wospeer pleas

golden loom
#

Like overcapping energy no matter what you do doesnt make sense

dreamy rover
#

how do i demsise masx

hearty seal
subtle tundra
#

I GOT NOTHING TO DO AT WORK IM SO BORED MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

dreamy rover
#

please ❤️

#

please man

golden loom
subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

dog stop pinging me what the fuck do you not get about it

#

do more bleeds

hearty seal
#

more like
"full energy in bursts, during downtime press buttons to regen energy better"
like an energy-positive GCD that is pretty shit for damage and combo (1 cp gain button that isn't Garrote would actually make the current design feel a bit smoother, fuckin' hate sitting on DN with 6/7 combo points and knowing I'll waste resources to get that last point)

tough hare
#

Err weird thing, sim telling me that this haste mastery cloak is simming the same as my transmaster's mantle that only has vers, at the same ilvl

hearty seal
#

just making mutilate spam infinite isn't the answer really

tough hare
#

And i dont have much haste

restive glade
golden loom
#

Stats garf

subtle tundra
#

sir

#

COCK?

restive glade
#

COC(k) cauldron of carnage

subtle tundra
#

ah!

#

thats ok!

#

you are bad

#

but we need people like you to make averages average

#

thanks for your service

restive glade
drifting cloud
#

@balmy condor what do I do if sim says to not play onuse trinket

subtle tundra
#

i like the burst

#

but it just makes no sense...

#

none...

#

what else is your 2nd trinket

#

eye of cuckzan?

golden loom
#

Wait 100 parses can turn to 99s on the best %? Wtf!

drifting cloud
#

magnet and myth pacemaker

subtle tundra
#

THATS AN ON USE TRINKET

#

YOU DIP

#

meow!

#

meow!

#

meow!

drifting cloud
#

barely

#

you press it once per 2min outside of cds

subtle tundra
#

whats the cd of magnet?

oak tangle
#

for someone just gearing a rogue now, are any of the arathi event trinkets worth?

brave stump
#

20?

drifting cloud
#

20

subtle tundra
#

20 sec cd?

#

woah

#

but yeah, i think it makes sense or smth

hearty seal
#

it's 20 seconds but you gotta build 30 charges

subtle tundra
#

you dont care about charges you just use it when you have lingering

hearty seal
#

well you don't have to

drifting cloud
#

I mean you shouldnt

hearty seal
#

but yeah

drifting cloud
#

you press it once in lingering regardless of stacks

golden loom
#

Wouldnt it make sense to use it twice in lingering ⏸️

drifting cloud
#

same thing no? it doesnt stack fast enough

golden loom
#

Bombaclat!

subtle tundra
#

but magnet has a big advantage since you can dump whatever stacks you have at the very end of the fight even if its outside of lingering so kill timer is less important when playing it

#

so it gets more value in sims

#

that way

#

someone agree with me

golden loom
#

U are right varas

drifting cloud
#

but if I forget to do that

#

that makes the trinket worse

golden loom
#

No

#

It makes you worse

drifting cloud
#

yes and by association my equipped trinkets

golden loom
#

The magnet does not know you lil bro

subtle tundra
#

i know the magnet

#

deeply...

serene mason
oak tangle
restive glade
#

im conflicted, guides say for single target:
ambush -> garrote -> rupture -> envenom -> mark+kingsbane

Checking highest parses they are popping mark+kingsbane @7s into fight
i'm popping mark+kingsbane @28s into fight

I know im bad but wtf such massive discrepancy. is full cp rupture just not worth it or am I not pressing buttons fast enough

balmy condor
serene mason
#

btw 0,5 Mbps Upload is illegal

subtle tundra
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

how are you doing 5 buttons in 28 seconds

#

WHAT

serene mason
#

yeah even with the worst procs you should be around 10 secs with mark

red schooner
hearty seal
runic hinge
#

28 seconds is how long I last too buddy. Don’t let them get you down

hearty seal
#

like even if you're fishing for full CP rupture instead of early envenom, you'd do something like
ambush, garrote, muti, rupture

#

one more GCD

restive glade
balmy condor
#

I'll thread it for you goat

golden loom
#

7 seconds outside of melee range is interesting

subtle tundra
#

what the hell

golden loom
#

False alarm

#

Bro didnt need help pushing buttons, only reading

subtle tundra
drifting cloud
#

wish Whispyr would read my pings

runic hinge
#

just ping 5 times in 30 seconds

dreamy rover
#

he almost killed me for pinging him 2 (twice)

drifting cloud
#

you pinged him 5 a day for a week straight buddy

dreamy rover
#

fuck you ryler

#

your ruiningmyvide

drifting cloud
#

im a vibe assassin for sure

dreamy rover
#

vibe

runic hinge
dreamy rover
#

vibe guiy

drifting cloud
runic hinge
#

Your congratulations that I picked them to do it in 5!

drifting cloud
#

wow you didnt pick in 4? thought you were a fan

balmy condor
#

lakers in 6

#

well I guess 7

runic hinge
drifting cloud
#

yeah I love the east

golden loom
#

Jamal Murray my king popped off today

cinder steppe
#

In mythic bandit do we stick to the boss and just rupture adds or do we try to get mark from boss to adds?

drifting cloud
#

depends how much your guild is struggling

serene mason
#

does some1 have a plater script which activates energybars for the pillars? 😄

#

got caught in the act yesterday

cinder steppe
#

Okay got it, because in my opener yesterday, every first wave of adds comes with 7 ticks of kingsbane still on the boss, and changing to an add in that time feels odd as fuck to be honest

drifting cloud
#

first wave should be no problems, but if its the adds on odd minutes and you get left-right spawns you might not be able to kill them in time depending on setup

cinder steppe
#

Okay thanks! We’ll see how the progress goes then, yesterday we got to 3rd combination only once because we are adjusting healing still, seems like a hard boss for healers

drifting cloud
#

yeah im surprised more people arent 4 healing it on prog now

#

but I guess the dmg check is still pretty real at that wr

#

only like 1 out of 25 kills is a 4 heal

cinder steppe
#

Yup we are 3heals but might use 4 just to see progress and get people to see more phases

quiet oar
#

We were much more consistent

#

and had more P2 tries

#

But did wipe several Times on enrage

drifting cloud
#

yeah like I said I just looked at recent kills and almost nobody is

quiet oar
#

Well with more gear and raidbuffs

#

you just heal even more

#

so the "4th" Healer isnt needed

#

and

#

You prolly just do 5 Coin sets

#

Now

drifting cloud
#

I dunno if wr800 guild can do 5 coins set dps check reliably on prog

quiet oar
#

I mean with 3% extra

#

this week

#

But yeah i see what you mean

#

We are kind off the Underdog strat enjoyer, we played Bandit with 4 Heals after the first Night and also Switch to 4 Heal on Mugzee

#

(Even tho Mug'zee gets more and more 4 heal kills )

#

I assume with this DMG Buff it gets more common

drifting cloud
#

yeah the hp nerf on him helps alot for 4 heal

serene mason
#

yes it will be the common strat for that fight

#

we get much more power this week and in the future with dinars

#

makes no sense to wait 45 seconds with dmg on boss 😄

golden loom
#

Myth track 8/8 is gonna give so much power also

#

Like at the end of the tier we will be silly strong

drifting cloud
#

sure but by the time you get enough crests to upgrade all that shit

#

its gonna be late June

quiet oar
#

There is no cap

#

anymore

golden loom
#

Well uncapped crests happen at the same time

quiet oar
#

with that patch

drifting cloud
#

oh ... great

quiet oar
#

You can just spam keys

golden loom
#

So you just send 40 ilvls in a day

drifting cloud
#

miss me with that then

red schooner
#

I'm gonna have to spam so many keys oh god

#

I just wanna chill man

quiet oar
#

I mean

#

DO 12s

#

for 20 Gilded

drifting cloud
#

well im on farm, I dont really feel like farming 400 gilded in 1 reset you know

red schooner
#

Ye I need to start doing 12s probs instead of 10s

quiet oar
golden loom
#

Probably gonna be on mugzee prog when that kicks in

quiet oar
#

because you are already done

drifting cloud
#

Im sure people progging would feel the same

#

maybe you do weapon and high impactful pieces

golden loom
#

Idk we raid wed/sunday, and that gives me motivation to not just raidlog which I currently am

quiet oar
#

anyways

golden loom
#

For a day or 2 atleast

#

4 keys garf_sit

drifting cloud
#

yes even if you do 8 keys and you have everything max upgraded now (you dont), thats still 450 crests for dw class

quiet oar
#

Idk how crafting works

golden loom
#

The craft thing might be gold only

quiet oar
#

prolly 30 Crests too

golden loom
#

Probably 30

#

Ye

drifting cloud
#

oh right forgot about the crafted slots

golden loom
#

Also I wonder if we get crest discount tho

#

Like if you get the 675 thingy before 8/8 track drops

drifting cloud
#

its in 2 weeks right?

golden loom
#

21st i think?

drifting cloud
#

or was it later

golden loom
#

Might be wrong

drifting cloud
#

maybe dinar is in 2 weeks

golden loom
#

Everything should be at the same time so either 14th or 21st

drifting cloud
#

guess my cloak and wrists are staying at 658 garf_sit

subtle tundra
#

what.

golden loom
#

Well crafted go up to 681

drifting cloud
#

im lowest or 2nd lowest ilvl in guild

subtle tundra
#

ffffff fuck...... fick fuck fucker

hearty seal
#

wait, is uncap+ilvl raise next week already? wasn't that on 14th for EU?

#

nvm just gotta google it

golden loom
#

Ye just checked, 14th

hearty seal
#

ah well

drifting cloud
#

actually insane you just login and you can be 5 ilvls higher

golden loom
#

Week of 20th is corruptions

hearty seal
#

ye

drifting cloud
#

who the fuck thought we needed that

hearty seal
#

dunno

cunning scaffold
#

are people that play the bleed build pooling their energy above 50% for sanguine blades in ST?

plucky canopy
#

S3 will feel weird with even less Power gain

drifting cloud
#

well we dont know the ilvls

#

they might just do the standard +39 over the 8/8 track

hearty seal
#

might very well be that S3 is +39 ilvls over 685 instead

#

yeah

golden loom
#

Idk might be because I am going for my first CE but I like getting big gear garf_sit

quiet oar
drifting cloud
#

because this is the squish xpac anyways

#

or should be

hearty seal
#

Midnight will have a squish ye

plucky canopy
hearty seal
#

so whatever happens in TWW doesn't really impact Midnight onwards (wouldn't anyway, tbh)

plucky canopy
#

I feel like it should be higher as it is

hearty seal
#

this season was kinda weird compared to S1

quiet oar
#

The Power Gain in this Season is weird tbh

hearty seal
#

S1 was pretty slow, this one is very fast

quiet oar
#

I mean their Plan last season was, get a DMG Buff needs less Nerfs

golden loom
#

S1 had the issue of it being aids to farm crests also

quiet oar
#

That didnt work out

hearty seal
#

tbh I kind of like the current one better than S1 tho

quiet oar
#

But it feels like, they dont need to nerf current bosses

#

If you get those Powerspikes

rotund oak
#

they buffed everything thats why

#

its a srs powercreep

quiet oar
#

Like More ilvl

#

Corruptions

#

DMG Buffs

rotund oak
#

yup

#

starwars

quiet oar
#

and MOST Bosses really get easier if you ahve more DMG and heal

drifting cloud
#

well they already didnt nerf things in s1 after a while

quiet oar
#

Its not like SIlken Court

#

Where you DMG doesnt matter

#

Because you have to play the full boss anyways

hearty seal
#

well if you really, really send it
you only have to do the final phase binds once?

#

or smth

rotund oak
#

your dogo

plucky canopy
rotund oak
#

which you gonna photobomb me now with

golden loom
#

Sprocket is already basically skipped

quiet oar
#

Like Sprocket Skip

#

Bandit Skips

#

Mug'zee Skip

golden loom
#

Gonna die before 2nd knock at the end of the patch OMEGAKEKW

quiet oar
#

with DMG

hearty seal
#

yeah I getcha

quiet oar
#

Even Ansurek was a lot reasier

#

when you skipped the 2nd portal in P3

drifting cloud
#

with ilvl and another 3%

plucky canopy
#

Idk I think bosses should get way more easier once u killed them
Nobody likes reprogress

quiet oar
plucky canopy
#

Like a fat dmg Buff on bosses u already killed

dreamy rover
quiet oar
#

court

#

You can cut Healer with more Gear and Buffs too

drifting cloud
#

he was on 12% before knock this week PogO

golden loom
#

Or maybe it was a bit more but in that range

hearty seal
#

anyway my guild doesn't raid mythic
so I'm not even sure what to do with those extra ilvls once they arrive

golden loom
#

Like legit that boss will die in the voidbeam + magnet overlap