assassination

[solar wyvern]

Myth signet and pacemaker tho so we bingchillin

[winged sun]

Ngl rogue feels better than arcane atm but arcane offers intellect not sure how big that is

[nova aspen]

think rogue out pumps intellect buff

[winged sun]

We’re offering the same funnel but way more aoe

[solar wyvern]

Rogue would have to be 3% better than arcane basically xd

[nova aspen]

helps boomie and healer

but meh

[winged sun]

True

[solar wyvern]

Int on healer is the big part

Tbh

[nova aspen]

ye

[solar wyvern]

But like think about it this way

[winged sun]

Idk is it needed tho

[solar wyvern]

3.6% dr

Smile

[winged sun]

That’s the thing ye

[nova aspen]

is rogue tankier?

than mage

[winged sun]

No not at all

We’re super squishy if anything

They are mega tanky

[solar wyvern]

Maybe in pure aoe burst situations

Where feint is giga value

[winged sun]

Yeah only that

[nova aspen]

so paladins

[winged sun]

Arcane is tankier there

By long shot

[solar wyvern]

Yeah we're certainly immortal during paladins but mage wins

[winged sun]

Since they cast it constantly

[nova aspen]

i think if rsham u play rogue

if disc u play arcane

[winged sun]

Mages can live anything in the game

[spice surge]

Assa squishy, other specs tonky

[winged sun]

Yeah well arcane struggles with rsham

[solar wyvern]

I wish sub was better

[winged sun]

Rsham just doesn’t heal casters all that well

[solar wyvern]

Fade to nothing DR is so good

[spice surge]

And soul leech, aka exhilarating execution

[winged sun]

Yeah sub taking 15% dr by default with the absorb talent that makes u immortal in cds is a big hit to miss

[solar wyvern]

Just so comfy on sub

Meanwhile workshop 18 im stressed 100% on kujo

Because i have to feint blazing chomp

[nova aspen]

we doing a 17 top tonight have u tried ur build with it?

[solar wyvern]

And that cd sneaks up on you o swear

[lunar pond]

The timers and VO was delayed for it for a good couple weeks in littlewigs. Seems fixed now

[winged sun]

Yeah I feel like it’s good in there, garrote talents also feel good in that key only

If your not skipping the 2 mini bosses definitely dashing before xav

[nova aspen]

we only do 1 mini

[winged sun]

Ngl I’d play dashing in top too

Just send it

[nova aspen]

yea i wanna try it

i do over 5m with 1st boss in bleed build

[winged sun]

You can garrote 1st boss

Since IC still can spread garrotes

[nova aspen]

so standard hybrid first boss then ur build the rest?

[winged sun]

No u can just play dashing all key

[nova aspen]

o ok

[winged sun]

It does well on 1st boss anyway

Bunch of envenom dmg

[nova aspen]

yea im pumped

sin fun this season

[winged sun]

True

[nova aspen]

even more fun with this big ST build

[winged sun]

Yeah I’m having a blast

Loving sin a lot

You don’t feel like ur doing tank boss dmg anymore

[nova aspen]

i still have yet to try in rookery

think ill love it there

[winged sun]

Oh you will

[nova aspen]

always tank damage first boss feels like

[winged sun]

We 1 shotted rookery 18 with it last night

[winged sun]

Nah u can top boss dmg

[nova aspen]

hell yea

[winged sun]

I topped boss dam with it

On 1st 2

[nova aspen]

thats what i mean, im pumped to try it

before i felt like tank damage

[winged sun]

I did however go sub for last boss

[kind forge]

It’s essentially hybrid but with demise ?

[winged sun]

Well all builds play demise

[nova aspen]

when do u port out for sub btw

[winged sun]

It’s just double shiv+dashing

[nova aspen]

ive been wanting to try that also

[kind forge]

Oh nvm yes dashing it was

[winged sun]

I’m still thinking on what’s the best time to tp out, but what I did is I killed the 3 mob pack after 2nd boss and insta tp’ed out

[nova aspen]

then come back and parasol skip?

umbrella or w/e

[winged sun]

Ya

[nova aspen]

hmm ok

[winged sun]

Side note

If u miss parasol

U can still stealth through

Just distract the big guy on ur way to ur grp and hug the wall

You can also shroud people with that

[nova aspen]

left wall?

[winged sun]

Yeah

[nova aspen]

ill try sub swap and ur build for last boss

see which one out performs

idk u lose like a minute uptime going sub i bet

but prob do boss 1 phase faster

[keen mantle]

HI ITS ME

whats the most accurate

night elf macro

even tho it doesnt work

i want the most chances

[nova aspen]

hi casual

[solar wyvern]

I think if cds are down just port immediately after second boss ya? I really dislike porting right before double ascendant

[keen mantle]

!meld

[static glacier]

!mald

[onyx linden]

!ne

[keen mantle]

its important to help mee

you might see rogue in tgp

halp

[dapper cradle]

Hi Nikos

[winged sun]

@midnight mist

/cleartarget
/stopattack
/cast shadowmeld
/cancelaura shadowmeld
/stopattack
/cast stealth
/targetlasttarget```

Isn’t this the best one

Zac

Or?

[solar wyvern]

Heres the macro:
/cast Open Blizzard Shop
/use Race Change
/open Credit Card
/cast shadowmeld

[onyx linden]

I dont think you want to cancel meld before stealth

[hard river]

That's the one mewo uses

[winged sun]

I would add the stealth that makes u not break stealth macro

[hard river]

he claims a good success rate

[winged sun]

@keen mantle I can add 1 more to the macro

[keen mantle]

atleast here i have gear kek

[winged sun]

Let me login first

Gonna send u in 10 mins

[keen mantle]

BETTER mog

[dapper cradle]

Myth jastor, hoc, and eye

Bro will use dinars for mog

[solar wyvern]

Bro got dinars early amiright

[winged sun]

Try simming signet if ur grp has it then u get more stats

Priority trinket

U may need higher mastery constantly tho

[keen mantle]

not a single dude is using it

[winged sun]

So that u don’t proc crit with it

Otherwise gg

[hidden bay]

Looks like my gear on retail

[winged sun]

Priory trinket is abit easier to work with

[dapper cradle]

Oh shit I didn’t realize those were tournament realms

[winged sun]

If it sims the same I’d play priory

[dapper cradle]

[nova aspen]

holy balls

[onyx linden]

Why no circe?

[nova aspen]

[winged sun]

Oh yea play circlet ring @keen mantle

[keen mantle]

this one is 4k less st 16k less aoe

and all items in TR have avoidance

so its not worth it

[onyx linden]

ah avoidance gotcha

[winged sun]

Isn’t the avoidance useless

With all of those avoidance pieces

[keen mantle]

on +20's

avoidance not useless

[winged sun]

Ye but aren’t u on 60% Dr

[kind forge]

Stam neither i guess

[winged sun]

On stats or whatever

[keen mantle]

im not pressing feint once and im deadge

[winged sun]

Ah true

Less stamina

[winged sun]

Ye

Btw casual

If u will play sin in floodgates

U have to rotate ur cds perfectly on swampface

That guy smacks rogues

1 feint for wave and other feint for the bleed in between

[keen mantle]

dk angle

[winged sun]

After u move to the left

U dodge frontal

Then press feint for bleed

Best way to get the most out of ur 2nd feint that is

[winged sun]

Could be good ye

[scarlet orbit]

What dungeon is not a dk angle if you are able to spoiler us ^^

[winged sun]

Rogue is good in floodgates btw

Might be better than dk

Does same funnel as arcane and very very high aoe dmg

[keen mantle]

maybe both?

[winged sun]

Less than dk aoe but

Does well

[keen mantle]

is that good for theater?

[winged sun]

Not to mention u also do higher st than most classes as sin

[rotund oak]

Hello μωρη υγρασια and good lluck with the tournies or whatever u trying

[barren zenith]

also using the dashing build on floodgate, zeross?

[dapper cradle]

I love how greek has a ballsack for a letter

[nova aspen]

very good

[dapper cradle]

Crazy work

[winged sun]

Yeah it’s so broken there

[barren zenith]

oh shit

[nova aspen]

4m+ good

[barren zenith]

have to t ry it

[winged sun]

Funnel is absolutely crazy

And u do insane st and aoe

[barren zenith]

is there a dungeon you don't like dashing on?

[rotund oak]

ahahahaha cmon yo we cant even say 2 words immediately scold us

[winged sun]

I’m gonna stream abit later and post overalls if anyone wants to see

The overalls

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1184888068264689756

[dapper cradle]

Greek is based

[barren zenith]

please

[nova aspen]

how many hours until stream zeros

[winged sun]

We post them here sometimes

[nova aspen]

ill watch

[onyx linden]

Wait there's a dashing build for high keys people are using?

[winged sun]

Idk

Depends when we have people I guess

Oh

I have raid today

Might be after raid I guess

[winged sun]

Yea

I’m not on my pc but u can copy it from this log right here @onyx linden https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V4JzrLPZtRXT9d1p?fight=last&type=damage-done

[onyx linden]

cool thanks

[winged sun]

Np

[onyx linden]

Ah alright so a modified hybrid with twist and dashing and 2 shivs

You like using that for all the keys?

[nova aspen]

yea

and u only vanish for when u need quick 5-6 ruptures

garrote on main target only

its blasting

[onyx linden]

Yeah no garrote talents, makes sense

[kind forge]

Not even garrote for energy ?

[onyx linden]

Dont need it in aoe

[solar wyvern]

In aoe you already have ruptures and dashing

In st you garrote still

[kind forge]

But dashing does not work with caustic, right ?

[solar wyvern]

No but your fok applies poisons to everything

[wooden star]

fok applies though

ye

[kind forge]

Ye ikr

Interesting

Might give it a try

I mean bleed build is cool and all but not doing tank dmg st is also Pog

[coral ibex]

its not really a relevant build unless ur doing bleeding edge keys

[kind forge]

Ofc

[marble nebula]

hey mates, what has more prio? keep envenom buff or cast with min 5 comb points? sometimes i get into the situation that i have to decide...

also should i just spam muti + envenom or keep it slow, so i can max. the envenom buff?

[onyx linden]

Never cast with less than 5cp

pandemic on the envemon buff is kinda whatever. Tiny gains

[coral ibex]

i dont think you even play around the envenom buff this patch

[onyx linden]

yeah pretty much

[coral ibex]

you just full send other than pooling for non-dm kb

[marble nebula]

how much energy should i allways have for kb window?

and how do i max. the kb damage?

[coral ibex]

i think you pool to like 150

you max kb damage by not missing melees during kb

and by having the envenom buff up when kb starts

most poison applications are by your melee swings

[onyx linden]

Yep, everything he just said

[kind forge]

[marble nebula]

alright, so just keep envenom buff & stay in melee... i thought i need to spam as much mutilate & envenom as possible

[coral ibex]

well there's no reason to hold gcds during cooldowns

[spice surge]

Dont need to think about envenom buff really

Hit envenom if you have 5 or more cp (7 if darkest night)

[marble nebula]

when i got 6 cp, is it better to refresh garrot to gain the 1 cp for darkest night or just mutilate again? when i see garrote is <10s, i allways try to garrote so i have both in the same action & less cp wasted, but how are your opinions on that?

[spice surge]

If you need to refresh garrote sure, if you have like 15s left on garrote no

[strange tundra]

Is it worth refreshing bleeds after the last tick

Like let it end

[spice surge]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[coral ibex]

i think only if you would be overwriting an empowered bleed with a standard

[strange tundra]

In wotlk u had to let bleeds drop before refreshing coz it was a dps gain

Idk if same applies now

[spice surge]

No, because we have pandemic

[strange tundra]

Oh didn't read it my bad on it now

Ty mate

[marble nebula]

which WA are you guys using for cp / energy bar / bleeds?

[supple frost]

are we using whetstones or mana oil

[marble nebula]

whetstones

also bubbling wax is an option for m+

[winged sun]

only use garrote if you need it for energy in aoe

but with this build its highly unlikely due to dashing giving alot of energy on top of the ruptures

[sonic schooner]

zero s bringing back casual to home

what a dude

[winged sun]

@keen mantle

/cleartarget
/stopattack
/cast shadowmeld
/cancelaura shadowmeld
/stopattack
/cast [nostealth] Stealth
/targetlasttarget

try this

you can spam it without losing ur actual stealth

let me know if it doesnt work

[sonic schooner]

dude s giving the macro i m using since sl for free

[strange tundra]

What is better

[marble nebula]

i personally preffer the whetstones, so you still do a better st dps.. but the bubbling wax is free 😄

[kind forge]

You need to farm wax though

[marble nebula]

"farm", i had about 80 wax in like 15-20 minutes

[royal lantern]

i mean, just grab whetstones lol

you cant be THAT broke

[woeful lantern]

What kind of single target boss damage are you guys doing in 12+

[short comet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[cunning needle]

why is your prog bar going up?

[winged sun]

guys why is my envenom expiring?

[rotund oak]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[winged sun]

being cancelled

[cunning needle]

it's rotten

[winged sun]

wdym

[cunning needle]

it's gone bad

so it expired

should keep your poisons in the fridge

[strange tundra]

aw hell naww

im not built to farm that

[earnest remnant]

dunno if its that but sometimes it just bugs out and randomly drops a stack or sometimes both stacks for no reason

[strange tundra]

because of the new update i think?

[golden loom]

not new

[earnest remnant]

could mess with the wa

[golden loom]

sometimes buggy game be buggin

[strange tundra]

indie devs

[woeful lantern]

So I'm learning rogue and I'm trying to understand why we do what we do instead of being like well I did really good this pull, but not this pull.

Do you guys have any guides you recommend? Raid and m+

[winged sun]

yeah, its not a WA thing tho cuz it just disappears on my buffs too

which is very very odd

@midnight mist any info on it?

we had similar bugs with outlaw

but i cant recall

[earnest remnant]

i spoke briefly to whisp about it last tier

when i noticed it

[rotund oak]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[winged sun]

i dont remember it happening in raid

[earnest remnant]

it did

[strange tundra]

@marble nebula by the way i just got home, i use quazii WA for rogue but i modified it a bit like move around icons and add/remove icons
looks realy clean

[winged sun]

it does happen in m+ often but maybe thats because i dont raid much

[earnest remnant]

it happened to me on 2nd boss in nerub

it just cut 3 envenoms short

[winged sun]

it happened to me for like 30 seconds

[earnest remnant]

just dropped off with almost full duration left still xD

[winged sun]

thats last boss in ML

very low envenom uptime as u can see cuz of the bug

[earnest remnant]

did you log it?

[winged sun]

idk

will ask

@earnest remnant

check last boss, i died while i had the fake envenom up

@earnest remnant https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MBTGJ8FZ23N7zqRH?fight=2&type=damage-done

this moment is when i died

thats the duration of the envenom that expired

[strange tundra]

maybe the visual bug since the update somehow translates into logs

[hard river]

prob some fuckery with the overlapping buff mechanic

outlaw doesnt have one of those

[strange tundra]

otherwise its fucked

[winged sun]

its not a visual bug

[earnest remnant]

xDDDDDDD

it really said NAH

[winged sun]

lmao

[cunning needle]

Lmao

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[earnest remnant]

you should really learn to keep the envenom buff bozo

xDDDD

nice uptime

shitter

xD

i love wow

[winged sun]

ngl i did play rly bad this key im so tired

but idk why that envenom kept expiring that fight

[royal lantern]

not envenom, but i had it Sometimes in the open world that my bleeds just went away for no reason lol

[earnest remnant]

had that happen once in cinderbrew

on a small mob

[royal lantern]

like, was hitting the new event boss->rupture suddenly goes away->re apply->goes away again in 4seconds

??

[nova aspen]

i hate that u lose it on 1st boss top

[golden loom]

yeah happend for me too on that mob

[nova aspen]

since they dont techically die

[golden loom]

never seen it outside of that tho

[rotund oak]

the sureki champion dude in hallowfall?

[golden loom]

yeah

[rotund oak]

yeah had the same here as well

btw needless to say that waiting for an inv as a rogue for a key is futile

only rank 1 mdi dudes with 625ilvl that think they know everyhting in the group finder

gonna send my keys whatever

[hardy dagger]

That but is so odd has happened multiple pulls during the tier....

[indigo epoch]

What is this? Watching some m+ playback trying to figure out what he's casting with dm, trinkets, and potions

[coral ibex]

racial of some kind

[indigo epoch]

Oh word

[golden loom]

Maghar orc racial

[indigo epoch]

That makes sense thanks m8s

[uneven plume]

What is nature damage considered?

is it magic?

[deep gyro]

Yes

[uneven plume]

kk so vdh is not actually bad for us

[royal lantern]

literally everything that is not physical and bleed is magic dmg

its why the monk buff is kinda w/e across the game and why the dh debuff is so strong that it got nerfed once, cus every single ranged except bm hunter is doing only magic dmg, and almost every single melee is like, 50-80% magic dmg aswell

only outlaw/arms/fury warrior are pure physical iirc

[golden loom]

and even then, fury in M+ plays mountain thane so it still has some nature damage going on

[royal lantern]

so only arms and outlaw warrior, gotcha

[scarlet orbit]

Hunter also has mostly physical no?

[royal lantern]

bm ye, idk about mm, survival is mixed again cus of bombs

[scarlet orbit]

nvm mm does alot of magic aswell just did a key with one

[somber sparrow]

I like the name of that ability... symphonic arsenal

[pearl dust]

Guys in st how much haste u play?

[neon bridge]

should i go for same enchant on both daggers or radiant on one and depths on one?

[static glacier]

same is fine

[sonic schooner]

@winged sun @earnest remnant we had that issue since playing ttk. I think we assumed last tier it was because when u were applying a 2nd envenom stack the total timer was still on the 1st envenom or idk what it was already. But shit

[midnight mist]

I thought it was known

For assa

Like for a long time

[sudden brook]

doesn't matter

[midnight mist]

It was dropping randomly for me sometimes when progging mugzee

[subtle tundra]

miau

[pearl dust]

Just go mastery crit and mantain evenom debuff?

[scarlet orbit]

I thought that had something to do with getting parried on raid bosses

[sudden brook]

Just sim your charatcer

[sonic schooner]

just sim yourself and do what the robot says

that s all there is to it

[static glacier]

there's no "required" amount of haste if that's what you're asking

[spice spire]

I miss when guy was only passionate about Pokémon gen’s and was shitposting in OT. You’ve changed king

[sudden brook]

https://tenor.com/view/poes-die-zich-uitstrekt-op-mysims-gif-4169233506206149689

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078500556139659357/1266583932426653826/attachment.gif

[marble nebula]

hey mates, i just got the jastor diamond on champion warbound... nnow im thinking if i should use it on the rogue, sim says its 900 dps increase.. how your opinion on it?

[sudden brook]

Sim says upgrade, my opinion is its an upgrade

🤯

[marble nebula]

yeah sherlock, but worth to use this item for an dps upgrade of 900? xD 900 dps is like nothing

[strange tundra]

is there any m+ dung that is okay with double assa?

[royal lantern]

class stacking in general is kinda horrible

[indigo sphinx]

Why would it not be worth to equip? Number go up?

[strange tundra]

when was it where they played 4 rogues and pala tank?

what expa season

[sudden brook]

..?

"Is it worth it to use an upgrade"

[night smelt]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[midnight mist]

Wtf your gear is blue

That's crazy

Feels more valuable than my gear

[grand trail]

mugzee feel hard

😦

[strange tundra]

heirlooms

[midnight mist]

Bro is full heirloom

[coral ibex]

678 heirlooms

[midnight mist]

667

[coral ibex]

[strange tundra]

ok and?

[earnest remnant]

if your healers arent great, then yeah the boss is rough

[strange tundra]

[midnight mist]

How do I get 678 heirlooms guys

[coral ibex]

i kinda wish heirlooms were better

i’d level more alts

[sonic schooner]

how dare you have an opinion on internet what the hell

[strange tundra]

yeah like every drop is an upgrade

[grand trail]

we reach 0.7%ˇcouple raids ago and not even close since

[strange tundra]

waste of gold

[iron carbon]

If you go in option for colorblind, you can modify colors for epic/rare/Leg/etc

[sonic schooner]

yea new feature this patch

that broke many things like havod dh losing randomely 15% dps

[strange tundra]

@midnight misti thought u were trolling my bad

[midnight mist]

?

I never troll

Wdym

[strange tundra]

[grand trail]

we had healer complained that they breaking gale late so im locked to every gate too 😄 unlucky my velf racial hehe 😄

[sudden brook]

Any sod heads?

[marble nebula]

i'm not only playing rogue mate, so it could be an MINIMAL upgrade for the rogue, at an item which i can buy on heroic in 2 weeks and therefore could use the warbound on an alt

[sudden brook]

Well how am I suppose to know that

Idk, thats a value judgement u have to make

[viscid spear]

Orc rap trio, finna drop a new single.

[strange tundra]

bro just use it on alt 900 dps is nothing

i have same ring as urs

[restive elm]

Blessed Weapon Grip x2 is blasting in my dslice sims. Any reason people aren't using them?

[strange tundra]

fleshfused circl

unless u are pushing 18++ that 900 dps doesnt matter

[indigo epoch]

That's what had me stumped lmao. Goofy ass icon.

[subtle tundra]

you are supposed to break them late. breaking out before spears is misplaying

[golden loom]

900 dps does not matter in any world when ur char is doing 5 billion dps

[brazen sluice]

any1 else have MA simming higher than VV as DT hero talent in st?

[sudden brook]

Yeah its better on st (Exclusively sprocket)

[grand trail]

well now he complain we break too early but its like w/e i just shadowstep boss so i dont really care 😄

[brazen sluice]

and for a boss with adds?

[golden loom]

vv cleaves harder

[sudden brook]

vv will be better

[subtle tundra]

tell him the appropiate time to break is right after ice spears appear. any other answer is wrong

[brazen sluice]

aha kk ty

[grand trail]

you can break early

just fine

[subtle tundra]

you can

its definetly wrong

but you can

[grand trail]

by early i mean more than 2-3 sec before ice

i dont really care im velf and i was not in gate for 200 pulls but being in cage is actually chill

[dusk fox]

how do we maximize KB? I feel like i have no clue how it works?

[earnest remnant]

hit the target with it on

cover it with shivs

thats about it

[dusk fox]

some hits are 10-13m some are 5-8m lol

[earnest remnant]

dmg of kb increases for each time you apply a poison

up to a certain amount of stacks

[dusk fox]

should i just be sending envenoms regardless of combo points

[earnest remnant]

no

you just play like normal

KB's outside of Deathmarks just dont do alot

[grand trail]

I think they need to buff kb

[dusk fox]

okay cool thanks

[lean plover]

poison application is almost entirely autoattacks

keep envenom bugf

thats it

[earnest remnant]

they should not buff it lol

[grand trail]

To have like meaningful 1min

[earnest remnant]

then it just turns into fckin amirdrassil again

[grand trail]

Just little buff pls

[royal lantern]

tbf, rn its just "envenom lol"

which is not much better

[lean plover]

Good

[earnest remnant]

its infinitely better

[grand trail]

Are you looking for guild or you quit

[earnest remnant]

i joined a new guild

[static lance]

Hey, whats the reason why a lot of assassination rogues go night elf?

[grand trail]

Nice

Which one

[earnest remnant]

Myst

[grand trail]

Nice

[earnest remnant]

same wr, roughly same hours, just +1 split

[royal lantern]

because wow players are generic as fuck lamers that only play human or human with pointy ears

[grand trail]

Yeah, did you d3cide your alt yet

[earnest remnant]

its either going to be 2x rogue or my shaman

or DH if decide to level it

[static lance]

no actual benefits from racials? just how it looks?

[royal lantern]

racials are a meme

[lunar pond]

EMFH is nice

[grand trail]

They seems pretty cool 3 day guild

[sonic schooner]

i know it aint healthy, but i want to be a pi god again

[subtle tundra]

idk id care for my guild to do mechanics properly, especially 200 pulls in

when i go in cage i do 3 gcds and then full afk

[earnest remnant]

technically speaking you can get a restealth as Nelf on trash packs but its finnicky and sometimes break

doesent really matter tho

[static lance]

it doesnt seem to give the vanish buffs

[waxen burrow]

u can meld then stealth immediately in some packs

which then gets u subterfuge which can be huge depending on ur spec and build

[royal lantern]

"huge"

lol

[earnest remnant]

you need to nelf into stealth

for it work

[static lance]

whats nelf, sorry picked up rogue like 2 weeks ago

[earnest remnant]

night elf

just means use the racial into stealth

[static lance]

oh oh

ty

[strange tundra]

smart choice

👍🏿

[royal lantern]

bad choice

its a elf

[static lance]

extra vanish gonna be op

[royal lantern]

its no extra vanish

and if it would be OP, everyone would play it

lol

and it wold be nerfed

but it isnt a extra vanish and its nothing remarkable

[static glacier]

wait, melding doesn't give MA?

[royal lantern]

no?

ofc not

[rotund oak]

no

[royal lantern]

shadowmeld is no stealth

[hallow imp]

Bleed vs hybrid? What is best and Why? 🙂

[earnest remnant]

you need to actually inter stealth

[royal lantern]

shadowmeld is shadowmeld

[earnest remnant]

for it to give you anything

[royal lantern]

which is its own buff

[static glacier]

so meld into stealth?

[earnest remnant]

yes

[static glacier]

never ever played nelf so clueless about this

I do remember it simmed really high for feral for a while

[dusk fox]

so we drop vv for improved garrote and MA?

[static glacier]

since it gave extra stealth rakes

[sudden brook]

ya

[earnest remnant]

its completely useless on boss fight however

[sudden brook]

again, only on sprocket

Every other boss U want VV

[dusk fox]

yes, currently progging sprocket

[static glacier]

vv simmed like 12k lower last time I checked but im sticking to it anyway

massive qol having vanish for mark for stuff like mugzee cage

[rotund oak]

haste issue

xd

[static glacier]

xd

[sudden brook]

Well VV is also more cleave damage

So on every boss other than sprocket, u want VV

[static glacier]

I thought about this and had the same thought as you

but didn't actually sim it

are we sure it's better cleave? non vv will have more env dmg

[sudden brook]

Yes because the bonus damage it deals is nature which cleaves with caustic

[static glacier]

I do maintain vv is better for sure in situations you can rupture snipe

[static glacier]

the question is the extra VV cleave > extra env from having cheaper mut

[sudden brook]

Yeh

[rotund oak]

ild tag whispyr but he would say Fu and sim it

prolly would be right^^

sim it

[sudden brook]

he will say the exact same thing I said

[clear oar]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[strange tundra]

do we need iron wire in +15 psf?

like wtf are those firtst pulls

[burnt star]

U dont need wire. U need group coordination

[coral ibex]

i dont know any rogues running iron wire in keys of that level

usually people know how to use their kicks and cc by then

[wise plume]

i do miss iron wire, it was handy

[royal lantern]

then skill it?

[strange tundra]

yea makes sense

[hallow imp]

hello!

for pugs what is best? the bleed build or hybrid? and why

[runic hinge]

Bleed, you only have one cd to manage and you can do damage every pack and dropping 2nd shiv for IW is only 2%

[flint star]

What about boss damage?

[strange tundra]

with arterial precision 2nd shive is only 2% loss?

[royal lantern]

equal

[mossy sundial]

2% in st?

[runic hinge]

when i simmed it

[strange tundra]

doesnt make sense wtf

[runic hinge]

in dslice

[strange tundra]

maybe its a bug idk

[royal lantern]

why not

why is it a bug lol

[strange tundra]

because of arterial precision

the buff

[royal lantern]

you realise that if you use shiv on cd

its like

1-2 casts more

[mossy sundial]

Interesting I'll have to sim it

[royal lantern]

not 2x more

[strange tundra]

i use itg after bleeds

not just press it

whispyr said to drop the shiv so idk

in his video

nvm after he said its better to drop bone spike and keep doomblade or move it to KB

[runic hinge]

you can

if you want kb and iw

[strange tundra]

it just seems crazy to me that it only simmed 2%

[royal lantern]

you really overastimate how strong aterial is

[strange tundra]

i am simming it now

[gloomy helm]

Hi everybody! I'm sorry if this has been asked before. Archon is currently recommending Blindside > Zoldyck > Arterial Precision for their M+ build, whereas Murlok is recommending Poison Bomb > Kingsbane > DTB. Anybody have any input on which would be better for the 10-13 range? I'm struggling.

[royal lantern]

follow wowhead guides

[clever sparrow]

i was looking on the top parse of first boss there is an assa

why he opens with mutilate?

[coral ibex]

maybe he forgot to go stealth

xd

[clever sparrow]

lol

[coral ibex]

or he got parried

and had to vanish

[clever sparrow]

then why he casted mutilate lol

[coral ibex]

[strange tundra]

@royal lantern @runic hinge its 2.43% u guys are right, and losing bone spike or moving DB to KB is much more like 4-5%

[runic hinge]

Yeah, I wouldn't lie to you for fun

well

maybe i would

but not if you're serious

[vapid parcel]

Can someone explain/confirm the interaction of the Windsinger’s gem regarding secondary stats? I just realized it was cucking me out of mastery causing my SotP to proc crit instead of mastery too.

[strange tundra]

i just thought its a bug, not that u lied

i overestimated AP but it makes sense i would when u read it

[subtle tundra]

cause mistake

yeah you dont have to play perfectly for a 100

[gloomy helm]

Okay.... Still confused on builds. It says on wowhead that "higher end mythic+ keys" use a hybrid build. What level would y'all consider higher end? I'm running 10-13's, is that higher end? >_>

[coral ibex]

no

higher end is like

16/17+

at your keys levels your build wont make or break your key

[round cypress]

Hi all, I'm currently at 11k crit and 8k haste (+ 20k on mastery), why does the sims still push for more haste ? Is the difference between crit and haste so low ?

[sudden brook]

Cuz it deals more damage that's why

[round cypress]

Yeah I guess... I might be in the "feel craft" of Seal Fate not generating enough cp

[sudden brook]

With more haste u generate more energy so you can press mutilate more often and u don't have to rely on seal fate for generation

Silver lining

[round cypress]

Hmm, so the strat would be to go full crit and bribe the priest for the PI, got it

[iron carbon]

Not sure about haste and energy regen

Just haste give higher dot proc so more damages in bleeds build

But maybe I'm wrong

[royal lantern]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh

haste energy is like, not REALLY a thing

[sudden brook]

And neither is a 2% crit for seal fate

[royal lantern]

yes it exists, but its not something that you can actually really notice in your gameplay

oh yeha, ofc

[sudden brook]

Well the context of the statement is about how having 10k crit and 8k crit vs 8k crit and 10k haste

Neither does anything

[royal lantern]

yeha, 100% right there

your stats dont change the "speed" of the class

[strange tundra]

haste go brrr

[ebon olive]

Can someone tell me why my Envenom DMG is so low ?
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6qrzF78DW4nmAvyP?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=1

[rare plinth]

s1 have the disteltea shiv makro again? ❤️

[sudden brook]

probably part of it

[ebon olive]

Damn, so low 😄

Thanks for pointing that out.

[dreamy rover]

This you? @hidden bay

[spice spire]

Uh yeah that’ll do it

[hidden bay]

dont leak me

but yes, thats me

[dreamy rover]

Nice fuckin work my man

[hidden bay]

can be better

[dreamy rover]

39th overall all-star dps

Thats insane

[hidden bay]

i always fall asleep on gallywix

[dreamy rover]

(Whole world btw)

[spice spire]

Gally pains still mister herp?

[hidden bay]

na, i just fall asleep and miss cds

the other day i didnt use DM and lost a whole cast in kill

[spice spire]

[dreamy rover]

I usually just forget about the KB without DM in between DM window

Really, how are people (YOU HERP) getting 2.4M dps on mythic sprocket

[hidden bay]

i suck

[dreamy rover]

Dude

Best I've gotten is 2.1m

[sudden brook]

Good gear, decent luck, good kill timer

Play well, obviously

[dreamy rover]

Whats the big catch

[eager condor]

ok yall making me feel ok then

[dreamy rover]

Managing to use a dps pot w/ CDs during exec phase?

[eager condor]

2.1 same, not making it to execute here yet

[dreamy rover]

Feelsbad

[spice surge]

Me last week forgetting to swap back to caustic after sprocket so i did bandit with IB 💀

[naive lynx]

Hey! Just starting to get into assassination and I wonder does having energy issues normal in ST? 🙂 I feel like after I do my opener and rotation im out of spells and energy 😦

[spice surge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[sudden brook]

that is how the spec works

[restive hawk]

Im at 2.3mil and i feel like uptime is important on sprocket and actually having a tee charge+enough energy to milk kb helped me to gain 100k dps over progress

[dreamy rover]

Also during my 2.1M kill I felt like I did almost everything right, guess not. Sadly cant share the log for analysis since theyre private

[silk sundial]

Mythic sprocket? Me and the other rogue got 2.41 and 2.45.

[dreamy rover]

Ill try and compare it myself

[restive hawk]

First kill was 2.1m as well btw

[hidden bay]

sometimes raiding is very exhausting

[silk sundial]

Probably comes down to kill timer and boss positioning

[dreamy rover]

Hmmm ill keep that in mind

[restive hawk]

Are you playing around dry shiv at all?

[silk sundial]

If the tank is slow to move, less uptime

[naive lynx]

I see! Can I ask about the other specs? (subtetly and outlaw), do they have the same issue?

[restive hawk]

Big true

[sudden brook]

Sub yes, Outlaw no (with good play)

not really an issue, more of a feature, but yes

Sub and sin are AFK outside of cooldowns

[clever sparrow]

why the guy used rupture on 5 cp?

[sudden brook]

Outlaw is always in cooldowns

[clever sparrow]

instead of 7?

[sudden brook]

Because thats what u do

[spice surge]

You finish at 5+

[restive hawk]

You dont need full cp on your opener

[dreamy rover]

Yha, sending a shiv as soon as I can after CD window while lingering is still up

[clever sparrow]

AH

[spice surge]

Except during darkest night, when you need to be at 7

[clever sparrow]

didnt know that

[dreamy rover]

Thats all im supposed to do about dry shivving right?

[sudden brook]

no

Shiv with DN and lingering up

[subtle tundra]

bruh what have a tea charge to milk kb

that just happens

you dont gotta do shit

[dreamy rover]

WHAT IS DN

[restive hawk]

The last finisher in your dsrkest night needs to be shived

[sudden brook]

Darkest night

[dreamy rover]

AH ok

[subtle tundra]

assa isnt thermodynamics

[silk sundial]

Still upset. We killed sprocket the day after 11.1.5 so there were only like 100 logs at the time. We were rank 10 and 20 but the parse is is and 83, whereas if we killed it the week before it would've been 98 or 99

[dreamy rover]

Ah

Got it

[sudden brook]

The parse still woudl have been an 83 tho

Because parses update right

It's just like, ur wcl page ig to show off

[restive hawk]

They do, but it still shows your historic best

[dreamy rover]

So making sure my DN LARGE ENVENOM is supercharged

[restive hawk]

Yes sir

[dreamy rover]

Nice, i wasnt doing that

[sudden brook]

well yeah I guess if you put a lot of value into your WCL page

and not like, any of the actual context behind it

[subtle tundra]

bruh thats just not how parses are calculated wth

[silk sundial]

I just like seeing orange numbers lol

[subtle tundra]

im getting brain tumor today

[restive hawk]

Its a 10-13mil envenom every time and since kb is so weak this season its worth to use a shiv outside of kb window

[sudden brook]

Well actually get a parse thats orange rather than relying on killing bosses earlier

[dreamy rover]

Lol i love gamer vara

[nova aspen]

meow?

[sudden brook]

https://tenor.com/view/poes-die-zich-uitstrekt-op-mysims-gif-4169233506206149689

[junior smelt]

Guys, I got a Zee's Thug Hotline (Hero) and it's simming more than the Improvised Seaforium Maker (Champion), though not by much.

Bloodmallet says that's it's not even a top 5 trinket (The Zee's).

Any help with this? Is Improvised Seaforium Maker better?

[sudden brook]

Ilvl

[restive hawk]

The ilvl alone makes it better probably

[dreamy rover]

Yhea huge value, tempered pot + shiv + DN + lingering + supercharger is crazy

Now I see how people were getting 36 million damage envenoms lmao

[junior smelt]

Thanks yall.

[dreamy rover]

I wasnt aware of DN SHIV tech

[spice surge]

Deathmark adds more damage than lingering though

[dreamy rover]

Huh

[spice surge]

So you should be getting bigger crits during your burst

Amplifying poison

[dreamy rover]

Really?

Wow

Thought the 30% nature buff was unbeatable

What even does amp poison do im not aware

[restive hawk]

Ye 15mil envenom is easily doable in burst

[sudden brook]

David u should read your talents

[royal lantern]

wow players dont read

[dreamy rover]

Ayo

[royal lantern]

i dont even know what you wrote there

[subtle tundra]

no no no no

[dreamy rover]

35 > 30

[subtle tundra]

dont tell ppl to read

[dreamy rover]

Nice

[subtle tundra]

you meanie

[sudden brook]

This is like the 3rd time I've seen you say "what does this talent do?"

[royal lantern]

did you just insult my mother

[dreamy rover]

Im still learning how to read

[keen spruce]

[silent furnace]

what talent do we drop for M+ if we want to pick up Iron Wire?

[dreamy rover]

Fake news

[subtle tundra]

actually just said shes great at intercourse

[dreamy rover]

MisinformationGuy

[royal lantern]

lightweight shiv

[silent furnace]

ty

[runic hinge]

[dreamy rover]

Its the 2nd time guy

[restive hawk]

In the wowhead guide are a few alternatives, try them out and see what feels best

[dreamy rover]

Sorry i havent really read assassin stuff

[silk sundial]

Still new to logs and all that. This is my 1st season doing prog kills, never really payed attention before. Isn't your parse based on the performance of every other log?
If you parse a 99 you are in the top 1%, the more total parses the larger pool? My rank 20 on sprocket was an 83. If I go back to 11.1, the same dps was a 97 parse.

[dreamy rover]

But if you give me a pen and paper i can draw and write the whole sub talent tree

[silent furnace]

oh thanks, im new to rogue and not used to the wowhead guides going into details like that. some guide writers are just better than others

[restive hawk]

Smaller sample size makes % based parse worse

And logs reset with .5 patches

[silk sundial]

Yeah that's what i was implying

[dreamy rover]

Yha also this patch has much "better" parses since everyone has decent ilvl

Its a smaller and more qualified sample size

[sudden brook]

correct

If you get a rank 10 on a fight with 100k parses, you are still getting a 99

If you get a rank 10 on a fight with 50 parses, that's not a 99

So if you kill bosses earlier, ur WCL page just snapshots your highest parse (based on the time the boss died)

So on a fresh weekly reset, if you just pull up on tuesday and full clear the raid fast, ur gonna have rank 1-20 on most fights if ur geared and such

[silk sundial]

I'm just happy to be done with sprocket. The fight was a snore fest as melee.

[dreamy rover]

Guy

If all 3 rogue specs were to be perfectly tuned and balanced

With current talent choices/rotation

What spec is your preference

[sudden brook]

current sub

[iron carbon]

Obviously

[subtle tundra]

ww

[restive hawk]

The parses get locked in later tho, if you have a 99 parse the time you kill, doesnt mean you still have a 99 parse next day

[dreamy rover]

Youre a real one for that

[iron carbon]

Current sub is goat

[dreamy rover]

Nimble flurry sub is the most fun I've had in wow tbh

Pad maxxer

[sudden brook]

Sure but lets think about it for a minute, do you think its easier, or harder to get a 99 locked in on ur wcl page on a tuesday, or a monday

[restive hawk]

I really like blood build assa in m+ tho, sub cant beat that for me

[ebon glen]

I enjoy sub alot, started off the season as it. Feels like it falls off though, atleast for me/my group.

[restive hawk]

Obviously easier ye

[sudden brook]

Yeah so idk what were disagreeing with exactly

[restive hawk]

Im not, was just adding :)

[sudden brook]

https://tenor.com/view/poes-die-zich-uitstrekt-op-mysims-gif-4169233506206149689

[dreamy rover]

Yhea theres no way sub is beating bleed build

Unless youre in a call with your tank

And its a ToP

Idk

Stars have to align for that to happen

[restive hawk]

Im talking fun wise as well, not only numbers

[iron carbon]

You said if every spec were balanced

[spice surge]

Weve had a season of trickster now as sub so next season is probably gonna be deathstalker so its back to assa

[keen spruce]

My rank 10 on manorax pre aug was only a 94

[dreamy rover]

Assa fatebound season inc?

[restive hawk]

Pls no

Not more random shit thrown at me

[spice surge]

Maybe

[dreamy rover]

I refuse to play fatebound

Ill gladly play deathstalker sub over that

[spice surge]

Im not so sure about that one chief, atleast not in aoe

[dreamy rover]

Lol aoe deathstalker

Sucks

[spice surge]

It doesnt

[dreamy rover]

Idk just feels bad to be locked to a single target

[spice surge]

Or well, numerically it doesnt

Gameplay wise it does

[dreamy rover]

And checking your DN to see if you can change targets

[dreamy rover]

Yup

[sudden brook]

just dont change targets

[spice surge]

Well you havent played deathstalker sub in aoe

[sudden brook]

It's not liek sin can change targets

[spice surge]

By the sounds of it

[sudden brook]

Even if u wanted to

[dreamy rover]

Yha ive never done it

[spice surge]

Because you deliberately swap targets constantly

To prevent darkest night from proccing

[dreamy rover]

Huh

Thats crazy

Can I throw a curveball completely unrelated question out here?

[runic hinge]

no

[spice surge]

And if you get too many refunds from shadowcraft during dance you should cancelaura darkest night

Because having it up stinks

[dreamy rover]

Well im gonna do it

How are assassins doing more on gally compared to sub? Based on my exp (literally only heroic though) sub's CDs align with the add spawns perfectly

[sudden brook]

Mythic is a different fight

[dreamy rover]

/cancelaura Darkest Night macro is unreal

[sudden brook]

That's how

[dreamy rover]

Guess I'll see in a couple weeks then

[keen spruce]

I had 8 pars and birdie yesterday

Shot 87

4 doubles and a quad

[runic hinge]

thats life right there

[dreamy rover]

Well they're smashing on heroic logs also

Susge

[restive hawk]

Look how much dmg they do on adds compared to sub

I bet assa st is just so much better that it equals the add dmg out

[dreamy rover]

Yup youre spot on

Top assa log is doing 2.4m on gally

Rest is add dmg

While top sub log is doing 2m on gally

And padding almost 1m extra dps

[sudden brook]

I mean sin is also one of those specs with slow cleave damage

so if ur guild is shit, spatter just gets more value

[restive hawk]

True

[dreamy rover]

Yhea

[sudden brook]

Shit guild = less add damage = more you damage = better parse

[dreamy rover]

The longer adds live the more cleave youll get

[hearty reef]

!mistakes

[dreamy rover]

I just felt like sub's CDs aligning perfectly with adds would equate to more value than it actually is

Sucks to be undertuned ig

[quiet oriole]

What's top in M+ atm mid to high keys ass or outlaw?

[restive hawk]

Both are fine if you dont push r1 keys

[candid nacelle]

Does anyone have a WA to track how many enemies are near and how many have garrote or rupture on it? i saw a video on tiktok but there is no link 😄

[restive hawk]

I got a chinese one with target count but without the dot tracker if that helps

[candid nacelle]

https://www.tiktok.com/@cdk_cano/video/7497994999204826400?_r=1&_t=ZN-8vtZ6ewnt4g

i dont know if anyone knows which WA this is

[restive hawk]

Oh yeah i got this one

[candid nacelle]

i think its Luxthos but there is no tracker in

[royal lantern]

bt thats so poinless?

like, sure

but like, any plater tracks it

and tracking the amount of enemys that have CT is juust pointless bloat lol, CT is always on all enemys for the same duration

[candid nacelle]

yeah but on big pull with plater i cant see which mob hasnt a dot or not

[royal lantern]

and? you dont dot literally EVERYTHING

[candid nacelle]

ct yes i agree, but garrote and rapture

[royal lantern]

like, if you do that, you will never actually start doing something

[dreamy rover]

Garrote is also pointless

Only use for that is scent of blood tracking for rupture

But idk you do you

[candid nacelle]

Garrote isnt pointles son bleed build i guess?

[restive hawk]

It kinda doesnt matter, you spread as much as you can in stealth window and after that just do whatever you can to keep scent of blood up

[royal lantern]

but you cant "Multi dot" with garrote outside of IC

cus garrote has a cd anyway lol

[candid nacelle]

yeah i know, its just for stealth

so yeah maybe its useless then xD

[dreamy rover]

Its not going to change a single button press or reaction if you have 10000 mobs garroted or not

[royal lantern]

its just like

tracking for the sake of it

which is kinda weirdge

[candid nacelle]

okay

[dreamy rover]

But also you need to be happy flomo

Do whatever your heart desires man

[candid nacelle]

sure, so i just want to look over it and how it feels 🙂

[dreamy rover]

Yhea

[royal lantern]

+personal bias as a german guy

the guy is german, so its allready bad

[grim jay]

Based

[candid nacelle]

eyyyyy im german too 😄

[royal lantern]

80% of this channel are

[restive hawk]

Rupture is more important than garrote

[candid nacelle]

❤️

[grim jay]

Oberweserdampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän

[dreamy rover]

I feel like using this for tracking dots is MUCH better in aoe situations https://wago.io/398Lv0cuq

Especially rupture so youre not rupturing mobs that already have it up

Its useful for me because i usually mouseover on nameplates to reapply bleeds

[candid nacelle]

i am using Docotrio WA package and it pretty tells me which mob allready have rupture/garrote on it

[dreamy rover]

Yup youre golden then

[restive hawk]

Doc 🤮

[candid nacelle]

sure sure

[candid nacelle]

why that

[dreamy rover]

Btw atrocityUI >>>>>>

[restive hawk]

Human garbage behind the scenes

[candid nacelle]

ah yeah, special human being but he is doing good work in my view

[dreamy rover]

Huh

[dreamy rover]

Spill the beans my man

What does this dude do thats so bad

[restive hawk]

Dont get me started man

[wispy epoch]

can someone

explain how i reset bosses

just dagger throw and vanish?

[restive hawk]

Dude has a huge ego and thinks he is the best and lets everyone know he thinks that by talking down on guildies

[restive hawk]

You dont, mages job

[wispy epoch]

but can i

[restive hawk]

Vanish doesnt reset

[wispy epoch]

people tell me i can

and im being gaslighted

does shadowmeld?

[restive hawk]

Nope

Shadowmeld just gives someone elsw aggro

[ebon glen]

You can reset as rogue. Just pull the boss and run out of the room 🙂

[restive hawk]

😂

[candid nacelle]

thats why his guild is deleted 😄

[restive hawk]

Wait habibi is gone?

[static glacier]

anyone got a boss hp % wa for me

[candid nacelle]

yes

[restive hawk]

Hahahah

[normal mist]

IM ALIVE

[static glacier]

having to mouseover default blizz frames to check mug's hp is not it

[wispy epoch]

?>??????????

[spice spire]

GM king

[wispy epoch]

bro

what if i told you

in your options

there was a % setting already