assassination

[balmy condor]

most common blizzard L I've ever seen

[rocky zodiac]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[balmy condor]

it's like they heard feedback on fated seasons and said what if we just do that in the middle of a season

[golden loom]

Atleast crest cap is gone also

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna be real with you

[red schooner]

got like 1000 carved and 500 runed that are gonna be immediately slammed into gilded

[balmy condor]

crest cap would've been gone by may 14th to begin with

[red schooner]

though this now means i can't just do my 8 m+ a week and then chill

[golden loom]

Yeah

[red schooner]

gotta get the gilded

[golden loom]

But the combo is nice atleast

[rotund oak]

this sureki champion dude still bugged

multibillion company type of thang

[shy axle]

ngl a little bit disappointed that you have to kill the boss to buy the item with a dinar

was hoping it would be like before

[grave rivet]

Ya and you apparently get 1 dinar a week, but each item costs 3 dinars, so even if the feature releases May 13th you wouldn't realistically get an item until May 27th

[rotund oak]

i dont care tbh,just fix it,i wanna gear up my ponytails

[rotund oak]

thats some heavy gating

[golden loom]

Players can purchase Mythic and Heroic gear but will require the associated boss to have been defeated at least once in any difficulty to purchase Hero track gear and at least once in Mythic difficulty to purchase Myth track gear.

Also this

[red schooner]

Is there a dinar catchup or do we have to do this every week per char

I wonder how it'll work with alts and the boss kill requirements

[shy axle]

just do it again i guess

[red schooner]

Shit

[rotund oak]

so in order to get the actual mythic track on house of cards i need to have killed the boss that drops it

aight?

[golden loom]

seems that way ye

[rotund oak]

on mythic diffculty

[shy axle]

thats what i understand from the wording, yes

[rotund oak]

thats some wild sht

[shy axle]

yep

[rotund oak]

[shy axle]

would have thought it would be like s4, one item, upgradable until max with that extra big path

[rotund oak]

nope,just blizzard things

[red schooner]

My hopes of a myth track jastor have been killed

Shot dead

[earnest remnant]

just pug mythic gally

[grand trail]

Just kill boss

[red schooner]

Like I'm RFWL here if we CE at all its last week of the season

[gray horizon]

tbh i'm fine with the mythic requirement. Kind of tired of Blizz just handing out gear like crazy

[earnest remnant]

its about as hard as stix

[spice spire]

So true

[grand trail]

We kinda struggled on stixx

That's not good

[viscid spear]

[rotund oak]

we are talking about dinars yo,who cares

[red schooner]

Boosters rn salivating

[grand trail]

There are like in month anyway

[rotund oak]

silly company doesnt understand how vendors work

[earnest remnant]

ayo thas me

time to make the big mulla

[red schooner]

i'll trade you pictures of raccoons for a oab kill thanks

[rotund oak]

imagine waiting all this time to gold cap ur bank

[earnest remnant]

difference is i put in 0 effort to do so

i just do my normal weekly clear

and i get paid to do it

[rotund oak]

true,it took me several months to achieve and endless farm

[earnest remnant]

peak lazy money making

[rotund oak]

ok ive lost

[red schooner]

I just do world quests for money life is chill

[rotund oak]

[royal lantern]

didnt your raidteam disband?

[earnest remnant]

joinin a new one

im eternal

and nocturnal

[rotund oak]

stealthi method arc?

[earnest remnant]

no

[rotund oak]

[royal lantern]

well ofc, you are a raccon

thats literally stealthi

[rotund oak]

so cringe man,i need to raid on my rogue to get the trinket and the ring

[grand trail]

what? colour disbanded?

[viscid spear]

Chances I get either Eye or Jastor before then?

[rotund oak]

idk man,im just sad i have to raid,ill do the stupid raid once on normal and never step on it again

[viscid spear]

• Dinar system May 13th
• have to wait two weeks to use them
  

[rotund oak]

VS warbound btw

[subtle tundra]

bruh people genuinely are upset you need to kill a mythic boss to get its mythic loot?

[viscid spear]

Gives you a month to raid all you need

[subtle tundra]

are they fucked in the head

[rotund oak]

yeah man,how dare they

[viscid spear]

I am a Story Mode Preservation Evoker, why can't I get Myth track Jastor?

[waxen oyster]

Is there a guide for mythic bandit

that isnt dratnos' 99% useless yap

[royal lantern]

ofc they are

[fickle fossil]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[royal lantern]

its wow players

varas, wow players want the best items for no effort always

[nova aspen]

i play ur game blizzard, i want everything handed to me

[royal lantern]

like, i personaly think thats reasonable

the Bullshit part is the time

3 weeks for 1 item for something that comes that late is just insanity

[brave comet]

why is haste consistently simming higher for me than other stats?

[rotund oak]

get gated noobs

[royal lantern]

if it existed with the patch launch allready? yeha sure, 3 weeks is OK then

[rotund oak]

[brave comet]

is haste much more important now?

[royal lantern]

you have low haste i gues

[brave comet]

i have 10.4k

[humble trail]

isnt haste like the worst stat

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

assa has no bad stats

[subtle tundra]

i love misinformation

[waxen oyster]

haste has never been bad

[golden loom]

only bad stat is when your dagger is a int dagger and not a agi dagger

[waxen oyster]

it was kinda meh in s1

if you had a sikran neck

[viscid spear]

I have 9 chances (I think) to get either Eye or Jastor.
4 from kills (I already killed him this week)
5 from Vault

[waxen oyster]

because that thing has a gorillion haste

[royal lantern]

play DnD

[waxen oyster]

why use eye

[royal lantern]

the 2 main stats of rogue are Dexterity and Intelligence there

[waxen oyster]

just use mythic pacemaker

chat is he stupid

[viscid spear]

It won't drop

[subtle tundra]

idk man we boost mythic this only means sales gonna be big

everyone will want their first kill

[golden loom]

more gametime!!!

[royal lantern]

i thouught you stopped playing

stop lying bozo

[subtle tundra]

blizzdong balance

[runic hinge]

varas is never leaving us

[earnest remnant]

it indeed did

[royal lantern]

was there a specific reason, or is it a "dont want/should not talk about it" thing

[grand trail]

no way

[earnest remnant]

gm/rl quit raiding, nobody wanted to pick up the mantle from him

[rotund oak]

sounds like reasonable ppl

raiding sucks

[royal lantern]

yeha ok, so a kinda normal thing tbh

[grand trail]

at what rank you endup this season

[royal lantern]

you suck

[earnest remnant]

same ish like 57

or smth like that

depending on which site you use for ranks

[rotund oak]

you ❤️

[royal lantern]

awwww

🍆

[rotund oak]

was waiting to that return

[waxen oyster]

ngl

i looked at my gear yesterday

none of it i got in raid

really makes you think

[earnest remnant]

so many people asked me there was any drama or smthing but it was literally just a "hey guys im gonna call it quits" he asked the people he thought could be potential GM's but they all turned it down

so colour no raiding no more

[waxen oyster]

doesnt that happen in alot of guilds

because no one wants to gm

in a good guild

[rotund oak]

no one wants responsibility

good or bad guild

[golden loom]

5 pieces not bad

[viscid spear]

Yeah, maybe you should raid.

[earnest remnant]

the amount of time you need to spend outside of the game

for the guild

is rediculously high

if you wanna be in a decent wr

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha, cus sadly its often some form of guild drama

i was in legit 1 guild that had a friendly disband where it was just "yeha we killed Sylvanas and got CE, but i wont do the RL anymore in 2 months and nobody wants to step up, so we disband"

everything else was either me leaving cus people where SPECIAL, or a disband cus of drama

[earnest remnant]

and it just never stops

even farm doesent slow down

[royal lantern]

we are like wr 600-700, and our RL is doing WoW stuff 24/7

[near valley]

90% of them are mythic plus enjoyers i bet

[rotund oak]

because u want loot and gold from boosts its a literal job whihc u arent paid enough

[royal lantern]

like, if you want to be halfway competitive, its a nonstop job to be a RL

[earnest remnant]

ive got mad respect for Nox our gm/rl

it has been a blast raiding there, sad its gone but now we move on to find somewhere else to play

[coral ibex]

most hobbies where you can end up competing in a serious way require exponentially more time investment to maintain competitiveness

[waxen oyster]

literally do

but vault gains only

[coral ibex]

GM/RL is pretty unique tho

most other team based hobbies the responsibilities are shared pretty evenly

[sonic schooner]

Stealthi

become the new GM RL now

[earnest remnant]

tried being an officer once

not happening again

unless i can get away with only handling raid prep

[red schooner]

you don't willingly become guild officer. it gets thrust upon you against your will

[nova aspen]

stealthi enters the chat

[red schooner]

there is no raid leader who wants to raid lead.

it just happens

[near valley]

guild management is some soul sucking stuff at times

goes 10x if there is any drama too

[rotund oak]

to create issues on a team...

[royal lantern]

you do your best for prog, constantly preparing stuff for your raidteam

and then the 1 monk that ALWAYS complains about loot drops that one

like, i could not be a RL cus i would kick people 24/7 lol

[red schooner]

i couldn't be RL because I'm shit at conflict, I just wanna turn up to raid and vibe man

put some music on

stab boss

chill

[radiant raven]

the best kind of raider

Raid leading is exhausting

[rotund oak]

the ppl we love to raid with

the exception to the rule

99.9% are sht at the game and toxic

reason i dont care to raid

[near valley]

ain't that the truth

[red schooner]

i'm shit at the game but i try to be chill so

its fine

[spice spire]

Same

[red schooner]

[rotund oak]

toxicity man

i cant take it anymore

instant gtfo of my life

[radiant raven]

Everyone should try leading a pug raid sometime just to see the incredible whispers you get imo

[red schooner]

i mean if i want drama i'd just go back to work on an evening and deal with the office politics and all that nonsense.

this is my free time let me vibe man

[golden loom]

working from home 4 days per week, got the office politics on wow while working

[royal lantern]

dont join a raidteam that is pushing world ranks, and it immediatly gets better lol

like, the endless chase to go higher is what makes people go dumb

[red schooner]

i'm rfwl guild any boss we kill is a fucking blessing and we have no expectations

life is okay

only downside is prog never ends sometimes

straight from trying to kill queen into undermine

[inland dirge]

but muh internet number

how else will i derive a sense of self worth

[royal lantern]

my self worth comes from #1146207476983812117

[subtle tundra]

huh?

[waxen oyster]

i mean the only reason i hate rfwl is the fact

average rl at that rank is

insanely clueless

and tells you to do shit jobs

[subtle tundra]

if you get a half decent raid leader toxicity is never a thing

[coral ibex]

i just want to be at whatever guild rank is needed to not start extending on boss fucking 5

[royal lantern]

the mid ranks with people that want to go higher are absolute hell

[coral ibex]

i fucking hate extending man

[royal lantern]

like, 80% are just there and use it as a jumping board for higher ranks

[waxen oyster]

yeah idk extending just kills my motivation

[royal lantern]

and you feel it

[waxen oyster]

to play

[coral ibex]

"hey what if all raid days were prog misery instead of one day for reclear"

[waxen oyster]

i’d rather be on farm for 4 months

[coral ibex]

who wants this

[royal lantern]

we extend this week

[waxen oyster]

than extend 1

[inland dirge]

my wife divorced me because i didn't get a myth track dagger before we extended

[coral ibex]

whats wrong with farm

[subtle tundra]

just be the best player and the guild so the gm becomes your best friend

[coral ibex]

you get to kill the bosses

[royal lantern]

based, would do the same

fucking loser

[subtle tundra]

thats what i did in my first serious guild

i was begged not to leave

[inland dirge]

[waxen oyster]

Idk i just hate extending

i dont want to play the game when its 3-4 weeks of waiting for someone else to know what colors are

[royal lantern]

i love extending cus its when we do prog

but thats probs cus we play 2 days a week, so its kinda needed for a clear

[subtle tundra]

best part of prog.not having to deal with reclear

[coral ibex]

i benched myself on ansurek prog bc we had been extending for weeks and weeks and half the time we were wiping during LUST on PULL

every raid day just misery

[waxen oyster]

genuine question

[royal lantern]

leme gues

the priests

[rotund oak]

just the countless wipes and frustration and rage and all

[waxen oyster]

how are you getting deep on sprocket

[coral ibex]

i dont remember, i didn't want to remember

[waxen oyster]

and people still

fuck up the first colors

[golden loom]

cause sprocket

brain drains

[coral ibex]

i just could not handle

[golden loom]

thats the mechanic

[coral ibex]

wiping in lust on pull

and then the fucking warriors go ERM I NEED 90 SECONDS FOR MY CDS

[waxen oyster]

like

[golden loom]

the boss does nothing, so u just wipe

[coral ibex]

nothing is more tilting

[waxen oyster]

you stand in the middle

then you go left

or right

[inland dirge]

not gonna lie my brain short circuits every once in a while as far as that's concerned

[waxen oyster]

its not hard

[inland dirge]

but i'm also redacted so

[subtle tundra]

reclear sucks cause you know youre wiping to something youve killed before and youre just wasting time

and i wont get loot

i never do...

[coral ibex]

[waxen oyster]

Is that much better knowing you’re spending 3 hours

[coral ibex]

just kill the boss man

[waxen oyster]

waiting for the ranged to stop dying

in the same spots

[rotund oak]

ive watched whispyr torturing himself in progress

[royal lantern]

im gonna be honest there

i was repeating "blue left red right blue left red right blue left red right" on every pull to myself

[golden loom]

Honestly tho, I had such a good time on our first night of bandit prog, was just smiling for 3 hours

[waxen oyster]

i mean its always

[golden loom]

goofy dumbass boss

[waxen oyster]

the first one thats the worst

not even the swaps

[coral ibex]

very hard mech

[subtle tundra]

i have a good guild and we actually learn

and people come prepares

and know the fight

[coral ibex]

gigantic colored words

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i mean those guilds usually

[coral ibex]

and text to speech

[subtle tundra]

crazy i know

[coral ibex]

telling you what to do

[waxen oyster]

dont extend for months

[coral ibex]

how do you fuck up polarity

after 3 pulls

[waxen oyster]

i think frankly if you take forever on farm

your guild is just

bad

and got lucky one attempt

on who got stuff

[cyan trellis]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[waxen oyster]

also dratnos is thr worst person at explaining shit

ever

this mf yaps 99% useless crap

[inland dirge]

hello, this is dratnos, and this is this week in mythic plus

[waxen oyster]

i tried watching one of his guides once

[golden loom]

we killed it on pull 19 of this night, but on pull 17 I fucked up the polarity for the first time of entire prog, when doing the 2nd knock I forgor which color I was

[waxen oyster]

dozed off 3x in 5 minutes

[golden loom]

dont shit talk my king

[coral ibex]

[golden loom]

ur just a tiktok brain that cant focus on my goat

[severe sparrow]

i cant do left and right without making an L with my left hand irl so thank god for WA

[waxen oyster]

hes the kind of guy who you ask to make the meeting

because its 1hr of company time

for 10 minutes of content

[waxen oyster]

I just do right red

[golden loom]

@coral ibex whoops!!!!!!!

[brave comet]

do you guys sit on the boss or switch targets on one armed bandit in mythic?

[golden loom]

hit boss

rupture snipe adds

[brave comet]

rupture snipe at 5-7 or at any?

[golden loom]

usually I refresh pandemic rupture on boss -> get bonespike combo points and send that on add

[brave comet]

so basically any

[golden loom]

ye

[coral ibex]

i just send whatever amount will result in it still being active when the mob dies

[golden loom]

another thing that feels good is after you proc DN to just fok for clear the witness and then send whatever u get on add

[junior smelt]

Guys, I don't really understand the current Deathmark > Shiv > Kingsbane window.

I've read that I have to Shiv in the last 8 seconds of the Kingsbane window. How does it work?

[coral ibex]

there's not really anything to understand

you just press shiv with 8s left on kingsbane

[halcyon charm]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[coral ibex]

shiv increases kingsbane damage, the end of kingsbane is the most important part

so you want to increase the damage of the end of kingsbane

[junior smelt]

Thank you Nooj. I wanted to understand the process.

[coral ibex]

kingsbane damage ramps over time

[old lily]

do we still play double vanish subterfuge with the bleed build?

[dreamy rover]

!restealth

!stealth

WHAT IS THE COMMAND

!RESET

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[astral current]

push your RL to making sims mandatory for getting loot

[runic hinge]

lol

[astral current]

what?
that's how it works in normal world

[subtle tundra]

we did that once and never after

loot goes such as it doesnt get wasted

by going on a character and then that character gets benched

[runic hinge]

what was your WR this tier varas

[subtle tundra]

20

[runic hinge]

sheeesh

[waxen oyster]

going off sim value kind of goofy

[runic basin]

do you guys hard swap to adds on bandit myth ?

[waxen oyster]

rogue sims piss low

[waxen oyster]

no

[runic basin]

mhmhm

[golden mango]

any1 got a video guide they would recommend to learn the class

[timber meadow]

how tf does this candle not get melted im actually so frustrated with this boss. healer chadded out and we still won but god damn

[humble cradle]

Hey guys not rogue specific but is there a buff you can activate this season for the raid similar to the one last season in nerubar palace?

[spice surge]

Did you cloak? Because that removes the thing that melts but not the animation for it

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s done via rep in the raid

[timber meadow]

nah it wasn't even my circle it was mage

oh i should check logs, maybe mage did somethin that works like cloak

[viscid spear]

I think any immunity that removes the effect still leaves the circle around you but it doesn't clear the statue

[timber meadow]

yeah im goin to the logs hopefully that's it

[viscid spear]

I remember I cloaked it once and no one's circle melted a candle in that round

[candid nacelle]

Hey guys 🙂
Bleed build still op?

[viscid spear]

[humble cradle]

Ok, is it a permanent buff or do you have to choose how much to use weekly?

[spice surge]

Perm

[humble cradle]

Oh nice

Ty guys

This explains how I was getting gapped so badly by this unholy dk

[wispy apex]

!rik

[subtle tundra]

yeah thats normal

[humble cradle]

I guess the fact I’m normally top dps in pugs without even using that buff speaks to how bad pugs are

[lost wharf]

We finish on 5cp except for Darkest Night. However if we have Super Charger from Shiv, we can hit the 7cp breakpoint with 5cp. Does it make sense to finish on 5 then or should we still go to max cp?

[golden loom]

Finisher rules stay the same

Just see supercharger as extra damage instead of extra combopoints and build as normal

[wraith girder]

Evening lads. Are there Dungeos where you talent into Iron Wire just to make it more timeable in a Pug? If yes, which ones do you go into IW?

[dusky cobalt]

Honestly there aren't a crazy amount of casters packs to really need this. Maybe rookery but you have to drop too much to really make it worth.

[sharp hill]

how much haste u guys running for just raid

[coral ibex]

whatever gear the robot says is best

i dont think about my stats for raid or m+

[sharp hill]

gotcha

feels so energy hungry so often, was curious if i should get more haste

[coral ibex]

that's just how the spec is

energy starved

[dapper cradle]

try fasting

fasting helps curb hunger urges

[lost wharf]

Haste doesn't really fix it either

[sharp hill]

[royal lantern]

haste has 0 effect on energy

like, its nothing

[sharp hill]

thought it helped with energy regen

[royal lantern]

10% haste is 1 more energy each sec

aka

[analog pawn]

!wa

[royal lantern]

10% haste is 1 mutilate a minte more

[runic hinge]

One mutilate a minute

[rotund oak]

placebo effect

[golden loom]

The real value is, low energy = less time casting spells = haste attackspeed giga insane value gain

[sharp hill]

[golden loom]

So haste + hit chance is very good cause white hits carry our raid dps

[rotund oak]

bro is so lost

u cooked him well

[coral ibex]

need to hit expertise cap too

[fleet pagoda]

does haste not benefit venemous wounds?

[spice surge]

Not really no

[coral ibex]

i usually reforge haste to expertise

[spice surge]

But you tick faster

So you get more, but the value remains the same per tick

[rotund oak]

its just VV that asks for haste iirc

pretty sure it was mentioned yday

[arctic dust]

Concerning the adds, how do you guys tackle Rik on mythic difficulty? Focus is said to be ontop of the adds whenever they spawn, switching to them from the boss however gets me in serious rotational problems with my Deathstalkers Mark -> Darkest Night. I think I will do more dmg overall PLUS to the adds when i keep focusing the boss and use the cleave of Caustic Splatter. Is that correct?

[lean plover]

!rik

Wtf

[coral ibex]

!richard

moroes is asleep

[spice surge]

Focus boss

[vapid sierra]

id like rupture one

and then use caustic from the boss to damage them

rupture one for the agi % and energy on death

[spice surge]

You dont have scent in raid

[coral ibex]

if your tank wont drag the boss to the adds on bad spawns, you will just do no damage to the barrels

no way to change that

[vapid sierra]

you dont??

is scent the oen that gives energy back too

[lean plover]

ofc you dont wtf

[coral ibex]

no

[spice surge]

The energy is from venomous wounds

The agi is from scent

[vapid sierra]

i see

my b

[quasi pine]

can anyone check my logs to tell me what i'm doing wrong on HM gallywix? I really dont see how to improve

[golden loom]

Send log bossman

[arctic dust]

thanks guys. Focus boss, maybe rupture an add to regain energy after its death. Sounds good to me

[quasi pine]

here?

[golden loom]

Ye

[quasi pine]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6bBLna37jfAFD1mx?fight=20&type=damage-done&source=16

[golden loom]

Right away spatter damage seems low

[quasi pine]

adds are dying a bit fast, do i need to focus only boss and spatter around? and just rupture some adds for energy in the meantime?

[golden loom]

Yeah adds do kinda get blown up so its kinda hard to padd, and yeah stay on boss

I didnt realize how awful logs is on mobile to check the cast timeline

[wispy iris]

!fuu

[golden loom]

But your deathmark sequence seems a bit off

Deathmark -> shiv -> KB is the order and after that just build and spend envenoms and shiv as the first shiv expires

[quasi pine]

i did my first shiv too late so

[golden loom]

Well its more that you did 3 mutilates and an envenom before shiv/KB

[quasi pine]

maybe use my first env before deathmark so i dont build one just after too, just realised that

[golden loom]

Yes

[quasi pine]

so the start would be just ambush> garrot > rupt>deathmark>shiv> kb?

and then mutilate + env till the next shiv

[golden loom]

No you want envenom up before dm

[quasi pine]

trinket before deathmark? good to go? or after?

[lean plover]

!guides

ok commands are off 😦

[golden loom]

Ambush-> garotte -> (builder if needed) -> 5+ rupture -> build to 5+ -> envenom -> deathmark sequence

And u macro trinket to deathmark ye

[quasi pine]

i macro it before my DM

[golden loom]

Ye

[quasi pine]

thanks anyway then

i'll see how it goes with that then

[tepid hearth]

90 parse on Cinderbrew 12 with bleed build. I'm throwing out extra ruptures and garrotes during indiscriminate carnage during gather up, then I hit a Crimson Tempest once most things are gathered up. This usually amounts to 3-4x Ruptures and 4-5x Garrotes during each open with tricks of the trade on the tank.

https://i.imgur.com/5if1O3m.png

https://i.imgur.com/B6R6Wgh.png

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zg8ZPQCvH3dGkjwm?fight=last&type=damage-done

[hardy rapids]

@spice spire

DAMN DUDE

Discord overlay showing me your playtime for no reason

[runic hinge]

He doesn’t log out

[spice spire]

I forget to log out

I’m 30 miles away from my computer

[hearty seal]

are some enemies immune to Sudden Demise bleedout? I see it often in delves (because you can actually take the time to just watch their HP drop and wait for like 5 seconds to see if they die from SD)

[runic hinge]

Delves is wack scaling

Something to do overworld scaling

And if you’re in a group it can mess things up

[royal lantern]

delves/world content is wacky cus of scaling

[hearty seal]

huh

[runic hinge]

Delves have some ilvl scaling

But I don’t think sudden demise takes this into account. So you’ll have it trigger and the mob will still be alive

[gentle delta]

random ass question

[strange python]

!wa

[gentle delta]

do u guys know if shroud resets on key begin

[strange python]

how weakauras?

[hearty seal]

curious
guess that explains how they don't die from like 6m bleed damage remaining on them

[royal lantern]

!wa

@vestal wren moroes is dead

[vestal wren]

!wa

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[coral ibex]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[coral ibex]

W

[stable pasture]

doing fkin 1.9-2m st on last boos rookery while everyone on 3m is crazy lol

[winged sun]

@spice surge @spice spire are we replacing citrine ring with 8/8myth rings?

[stable pasture]

to be fair i also synced so bad

[winged quail]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[royal lantern]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

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[stable pasture]

How much damage do we lose on aoe going the bleed hybrid build that has more st or something along those lines with ma?

or was it ma

[coral ibex]

huh

bleed hybrid build?

[bronze pike]

[stable pasture]

oh maybe i misheard then lol

lemme scroll up

[balmy condor]

The confusion is you said bleed hybrid

Which are two different builds

So no one knows what exactly the build is you’re talking about

[stable pasture]

True ok

So im pretttyyy sure I heard talk of a bleed variant that sacrificed aoe for st, im probably dreaming

ignore

[balmy condor]

There’s a hybrid build that does that with forced induction

[waxen oyster]

It's copers

who think the st matters

take a 5% st gain for a 20% aoe loss

[balmy condor]

Ye I don’t really get it either

[waxen oyster]

makes about as much sense as blizz adding another 2 upgrade tracks

[balmy condor]

But it’s high key stuff

[waxen oyster]

nerfing an already easy tier

[balmy condor]

So just a different game

[waxen oyster]

yeah high key stuff matters in their 12

[stable pasture]

I'm only doing 16s but still feel like idk my st is so ass i need to do something but sacrificing 20% aoe doesnt make sense

[waxen oyster]

play sub

[balmy condor]

Yeh unironically swap specs lmao

[stable pasture]

I should practice it but erghhh

just long

[waxen oyster]

i mean sin still does like 1.6/1.7

its not that awful

[stable pasture]

i dont think i hit 1.7 unless i go into boss with cds

[gloomy heart]

oh i got this from a delve?

[stable pasture]

even then idk

[stable pasture]

yer you time a +11

i think and it gives you

[regal zodiac]

can you time a delve?

[waxen oyster]

idk if you dont go into a boss with cds

you get them during execute

[gloomy heart]

oh thats my first time timing a 11

rarely do delves

[waxen oyster]

its new as of this patch

[balmy condor]

Why wouldn’t you go into a boss with CDs

[stable pasture]

timings

feel like that's pretty normal sometimes

idk

[waxen oyster]

if you only get 1 cd use its probably more value

that your cds come up during execute

[balmy condor]

I mean if you’re just full mongo slamming it on cd

And not holding for bosses

Then yeah

[runic hinge]

Me

[balmy condor]

That is pretty normal I guess

[runic hinge]

Me when dm

[gloomy heart]

LMAO

[waxen oyster]

kinda have to judge if you can get dm value

on that group

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-baby-orangutan-gif-19583716

[nocturne quail]

playing bleed build im sending DM on pack before boss, and then pack not taking 2 mins so the not having for boss. I think is normal enough

[waxen oyster]

if your pack doesnt live 2mins

you're doing a low key

where the cds likely come back under 35%

[nocturne quail]

packs not taking two minutes on 16/17 for me bruh

[balmy condor]

I mean, just don’t that?

[winged quail]

hey I was sending it to my raidlead

[dreamy rover]

@balmy condor is it worth to dry shiv at the end of lingering darkness window even if that means that we wont have 2 shivs for the next kingsbane

whispyer

[winged quail]

to say not my problem

[dreamy rover]

poswhery

whospiroto

[balmy condor]

That’s…. Literally the whole point?

[runic hinge]

Bleed does damage without dm so yeha idk. Probably not necessary on packs unless something has to mega die

[dreamy rover]

what does that mena

we do or we not do

im talking about raid build btw i love this game

[balmy condor]

The whole thing of a dry shiv is that the shiv is better used in lingering than kingsbane

That’s the optimization

[iron vapor]

Yeah, the first half of KB is basically zero damage, so there's no point increasing it by 30%

[dreamy rover]

ahhh nice

cool people

thanks cool people

thanks

[runic hinge]

Especially non-dm kb

[dreamy rover]

im grateful for you guys knowing and shaing the cool stuff

[dreamy rover]

yhea non dm kb sucks ass

tickles the boss

[runic hinge]

True

Gally giggle

[iron vapor]

Whereas an extra 30% of the LD&Darkest Night envenom with an extra combo point from supercharger... Fuuuuuuuuuck

Line it up with 10 stacks of the set bonus and some amplifying poison and it's big numbers, way more than the extra 300k or so you'll get from the first 6 seconds of kingsbane

[runic hinge]

Envenom juiced. Kb little baby spell now.

[waxen oyster]

When you get the 4p proc

[nimble tartan]

chat i saw my rogue leader foreverguy post a tweet about his weakauras and it said highlight deathmark at 1 stack to not mess up ur rupture

now idk what that means so i assume im not a min max knower

[old lily]

With the m+ bleed build, are you supposed to use shiv before 35% so AP is up when sudden demise triggers or do you yank it when the moves hit 30%?

[nimble tartan]

can someone help me ❤️

[coral ibex]

you should refresh rupture in pandemic if it would consume your 3rd deathstalker mark instead of having it expire while you build up/consume DN

[sudden brook]

Its just like

It's something personally I find useful to be mindful of cuz like

Lets say

0 tea charges, rupture is 13 seconds, you have like, 60 energy, and 1 stack of mark

If you envenom here, you brick on crits, theres a non 0 chance you literally can't build to a max envenom, and a 5+ to rerupture the target

[waxen oyster]

It's more of a

reminder for people who dont think ahead

[sudden brook]

So in a situation like that, it feels better to just wait for a bit for pandemic, rupture, and then go into envenom

ya

[waxen oyster]

just get lucky and crit ambush+proc blindside

🐀

[nimble tartan]

ohhh i see

[waxen oyster]

every global

[nimble tartan]

i got ya i got ya

[waxen oyster]

Yeah your rupture will drop if you dont get lucky on crit/blindside procs

Basically

[nimble tartan]

thank you all

[marble hemlock]

mop beta, bye assa, welcome back combat rogue

[wide gorge]

!styx

!bomb

[keen spruce]

Just don’t brick your crits

[royal lantern]

rogue

but without outlaw

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/VJY0Wa8.jpeg

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

https://i.imgur.com/7kqeCIP.jpeg

my beloved

[royal lantern]

red buff

[nimble tartan]

combat so peak

[kind forge]

Oh bandits guile

[nimble tartan]

was what i played when i first started

i do love outlaw too though..

[brave comet]

i'm going crazy, i'm trying to figure out why people are averaging higher on envenoms than i am. i cant see any other reason other than the jastor ring

[jovial idol]

Wtf is revealing strike

[viscid spear]

That's when you go A-HA and stab someone

[jovial idol]

I miss saber slash

And burst of sperd

Speed

[frigid aurora]

i miss barman shanker

[viscid spear]

Ermergerd

But yeah I miss it too

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/zoomer-zoomercto-zoomer-cto-meme-crypto-gif-10601670655119816196

[sonic schooner]

what is this masterpiece

[cerulean walrus]

But do I actually play MoP classic?

[nova shadow]

bleeders how much % haste you rock with, I think I overstimulated myself with haste today, went from 6% to 18% with craftned neck and myth legs

it might not be good cuz lost like 7% crit

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

sim

sim

[buoyant herald]

i sit at about 9%

[royal lantern]

sim

[buoyant herald]

but yeah it's not that relevant

[royal lantern]

the answer is always simming

[cerulean walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[buoyant herald]

actually i'll put it this way - when i rip a top gear sim, the outcome is that im about 9% lol

[nova shadow]

I'm simming but everything sims rly similar ;d

[royal lantern]

well yeha, thats assa

[buoyant herald]

lol bro you're THIS close to understanding hahaha

[royal lantern]

stats dont matter much

[nova shadow]

I wanted to go for more ST and the difference is actually noticeable rookery last boss went from 1.4-5 overall to 1.8 last run

[royal lantern]

thats a general truth about the game for everything cus people LOVE to overthink secondarys like crazy

and even more for assa

[nova shadow]

but the crit mastery lose is noteable in aoe

[royal lantern]

your "difference" sample size is 1 dungeon?

with a boss that is 99% on timers?

[fleet pagoda]

and a damage amp

[nova shadow]

I was playing rookery depleted for 7 secs cuz my st is horrific even tho I blast aoe, but I guess the real answer for assa is to play with ww/frost dk

and just timed it

on 14

[royal lantern]

assa does low boss dmg in m+

nothing changes that

ESPECIALLY not stats

you wont suddenly do giga boss dmg cus you got 3% more haste lol

[buoyant herald]

mmm going from 1.4 to 1.7 is kinda moot when others are doing 2-2.5m

[nova shadow]

Are you guys running crafted neck with haste/mastery

[zenith smelt]

When you get abush procs in bleed build does the ambush also give you mutilate posion stacks on the targets?

[unkempt vine]

Guys, race change only works within the same faction right?

[normal mist]

yes

[copper shore]

finally a run with a tank that felt right in everything. 4.17 average. I don't get high yet but I assume you need to be in 12+ to make bleed shine

[normal mist]

it literally replaces mutilate, you can't mutilate at all, don't think too hard about it

[copper shore]

I only do LFG though.

[normal mist]

bleed shines in every key

[copper shore]

CT could have been higher but I tend to wait and time for add spawns to buff CT

[spice surge]

CT should always be up

[copper shore]

no rush right

[fast phoenix]

!wa

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[copper shore]

gonna try. Will focus it in next PSF

[zenith smelt]

When in your opener does you guys send Shiv? ambush - deathmark -shiv? on aoe or?

[spice surge]

Yes

[copper shore]

but @spice surge percentages seem ok right like time right then SD should be high up if vanishes are timed right

[nova shadow]

I actually dissagree that ct should be higher

[spice surge]

Or wait, you dont deathmark immediately

[indigo ginkgo]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[spice surge]

You apply your bleeds before

[nova shadow]

you never have time to spatter that much

[spice surge]

But yes you shiv right after DM

[nova shadow]

I usually open bleed everything mark shiv into offensive vanish and by that time you get to do 1-2 max 3 envenoms and you rebleed

[zenith smelt]

but dosent deathmark dumplicate the bleeds? from 5 garrote and Rupture+

?

[nova shadow]

this works the best for me +14 keys

[spice surge]

Yes

It duplicates bleeds already on the target too

[zenith smelt]

So why woud you send it afther then?

[copper shore]

my free ambush starts stuff usually but I always check if I have all bleeds spread

[zenith smelt]

aha

It does that to posions as well?

[spice surge]

yes

[copper shore]

I am old school so I tab a lot but platers show colors so I know

bleed spec also with knowing gives somehow time to do what next while bleeds are up

[dense sparrow]

!wa

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[zenith smelt]

So Does annyone have a written properly Bleed build to refer to?

[spice surge]

Wowhead

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tall atlas]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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[tall atlas]

!wa

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[frigid aurora]

anyone mess with this baleful trinket yet?

[viscid spear]

[brave comet]

!fu

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[waxen oyster]

So am I missing something, or does nothing happen on bandit for melee

mythic bandit that is

[spice surge]

Correct

You have to bait the coins, and thats about it

[waxen oyster]

I mean I just finished sap's pov

and hes basically on boss start to finish

[coral ibex]

yup

[spice surge]

Yes

Thats assa on every boss

[waxen oyster]

I guess he hit one reel assistant

at the end

thats about it

i.e actually mutilated it

[waxen oyster]

How does the coin baiting even work

[coral ibex]

baits on a random ranged and melee

aim at the door

[spice surge]

It shoots it at a random range/melee

[coral ibex]

well i guess you aim it wherever your RL says you aim it

[waxen oyster]

So you have to be facing a particular way?

[coral ibex]

we're sending all of ours towards the door

[spice surge]

Has nothing to do with how youre facing

Just where you are

[coral ibex]

no you have to position yourself between the boss and where you want the coins to go

[waxen oyster]

so basically just be positioned where your back is towards door?

if baiting them there

[coral ibex]

yea

[waxen oyster]

I'm guessing the electric circle and dispel debuffs

dont go on melee

[feral drift]

im new to weak auras so i could use some help in setting it up

[royal lantern]

aka

you stand on the add

cus on mythic the coin must roll over the adds

[ruby spear]

Does Arterial Precision mass sooth on gally mythic ?

[spice surge]

Yes

[ruby spear]

Thank u

[pure moth]

!wa can pick one of these and just import and ready to go. Makes life easier

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[jaunty sparrow]

dumb assa question. shiv + thistle tea. thistle tea's got a 1 minute cooldown. Use both of them on the kingsbane w/ deathmark, and 0 of them on kingsbane w/o deathmark?

[waxen oyster]

Conventional wisdom is you send 1 with each kb

[coral ibex]

you always generate a charge in sync with kb

so just use it

[waxen oyster]

ig slam a 2nd if boss about to die

XD

though the macro is tea on shiv

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[royal lantern]

use this and forget tea exists

[waxen oyster]

i just manual yeah

tea on the first dry shiv

[royal lantern]

i bet you also stand up while wiping your ass

[waxen oyster]

sometimes

[royal lantern]

only if people are watching?

[stable cove]

with bleed build in aoe do you prio sending out asa many rupture as possible or do you send like 5 then swap to envenom spam

[waxen oyster]

But really the only time you can "waste" tea

is ig if you proc it off feint

[jaunty sparrow]

okay so 1 per kb, rather than 2 per deathmark

[waxen oyster]

and theres giga downtime

[royal lantern]

you spread more, but you still try to be reasonable about it

[waxen oyster]

You have way too much energy during DM to justify slamming 2 teas in it.

[royal lantern]

like, spending 30years pressing fok->Rupture is ofc still not great

[waxen oyster]

Especially your opener one.

I guess you can kinda spend 2 if you managed to starve yourself before slamming 2nd dm?

[jaunty sparrow]

yea wasn't sure about the mastery buff and all

[royal lantern]

absolutely 100% perfect minmaxed tea

and "i dont macro or bind tea and only let the game auto use it" tea

are a 0,4% difference

its like, kinda a meme how little tea matters in WHEN you use it

[jaunty sparrow]

next dumb question. for anyone using lisonna's was, rupture has some extra text on it, rn in front of a dummy it says "+2 CP", I couldn't figure out what was meant by that from reading the aura itself, what's that supposed to signify?

[royal lantern]

macro with shiv and forget about it really

[runic hinge]

Sbs combo point refund

Read serrated bone spike talent

[jaunty sparrow]

oh that's what that's for

sweet, thanks

shoulda been able to figure that out from the lua but o well

[wise plume]

wasn’t our carnage 3 targets in DF? or did I just not take my meds today

[normal mist]

still is

Main target + 2 additional targets

[wise plume]

im tweaking, at one point I thought it was main + 3 additional in DF

[normal mist]

I don't remember it ever being 1+3

[coral ibex]

does anyone know if you need a separate weakaura to early vanish the fixate on mythic bandit

[runic hinge]

It was 8 targets at one point

[coral ibex]

hey would you mind sharing that weakaura

[drifting cloud]

not sure if its even worth doing that on assa

youre going to be mid dmg on those adds youre gambling to fuck somebody up that might do double the dmg on them

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[haughty flicker]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

I mean youre right, its not really worth as assa

[sonic schooner]

Yea but

Our parse

Gotta padd

[haughty flicker]

[royal lantern]

sounds like a problem for the other guy

[runic hinge]

It’s worth doing it cause then he can fuck it up and I can’t

[royal lantern]

we did our last reclear today

1 wipe on stix, only wipe of the night

wanna know who fucked it up

[runic hinge]

The moonkin

[royal lantern]

i blame my color weakness

red WA marker on bombs on green goop, sorry RL, thats totally the reason i went in and not that im a idiot

[vague raft]

was wondering why my parse was so ass compared to rank 1. same amount of uptime on rupture, garrote. take a look at envenom casts, down 20 compared to him. he has 30 more ambush casts. and this was his tier set uptime

nice

[coral ibex]

MY FUNNEL

[runic hinge]

Just roll better!

[honest oxide]

anyone know if we poolin so we dont use tea outside of KB still

[hidden bay]

Is that so

[haughty flicker]

[drifting cloud]

thats not the 1:50 set

youre doing speed strat on farm anyways arent you

totally different timers :p

[hidden bay]

Brother who the fk is playing old lame strat

[drifting cloud]

everyone except like 30 guilds

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor

can you confirm what you play

[fallow canopy]

we recleared yday with old strat

[coral ibex]

most guilds progging are doing the old strat

i would imagine

and not the speed farm strat

[spice surge]

Thats not the premium dynamite booty

For the regular set you can just press shiv and those mfers aint moving so it doesnt matter if theyre targeting you

[jaunty sparrow]

for pushing m+, do you prefer depths enchant for boss damage or radiant power for everything else

[honest oxide]

@spice surge

[keen spruce]

probably power

not much sense in optimizing our shitty ST

[spice surge]

Idk we never did

So not sure what youre referring to

[balmy condor]

Doms swapped to new timers

[drifting cloud]

yeah we did aswell but only doing 5 waves

was slight reprog but we have a not very good setup

should be chill from next week onwards with 3%

[lyric vale]

feel like 7k haste is to much

in single

idk just feel like it

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

That’s the goal ye

[buoyant herald]

yeah i punched my stats into feelycraftsims.com and it came back with haste being pretty mid

[drifting cloud]

on prog?

[balmy condor]

Yus

[drifting cloud]

we had to lust early to make it

[balmy condor]

We’ll see

[drifting cloud]

and it seems just worse for p2 if you cant make it

there on good timing

[balmy condor]

We got dam

I believe

Maybe

[drifting cloud]

we played no monk buff triple warr double assa

so probably you should be fine

[balmy condor]

The alternative is wiping to fucking fixate bosses for another 70 pulls

[wind totem]

Does circlet finally get dethroned when the new myth track upgrades get added?

[drifting cloud]

probably

[dreamy rover]

yo whispyr

[autumn frost]

What are timings for cds on stixz?

[acoustic roost]

lorggs

[buoyant herald]

your second KB will likely come up JUST before airphase, i can tell you that for sure

[dreamy rover]

should i not send 2 shivs during 1st DM/KB window and hold for lingering darkness after??

1st burst sequence on pull

[wise socket]

you use 2 with dm then use one with darkest night in lingering darkness window

[dreamy rover]

yhea

was thinking about sending 1 in DM window and then 2 during lingering

dont even know if its possible

[wise socket]

no not unless you can get some add pad or something

[humble trail]

in aoe, do we spam crimson tempets?

[coral ibex]

no

[wise socket]

no crimson tempest does not have any initial damage

[dawn kelp]

do u guys stand on mugzee during jails or to a side to spatter one of the adds

[wise socket]

its mostly boss placement that matters but sometimes you can stand close to 1 of them and get it to hit

[coral ibex]

one of our raiders just got a 4 week ban for "unknown reasons" 30 mins before raid

[balmy condor]

do you know why

[drifting cloud]

unknown reasons

[coral ibex]

i think he was buying gold but who knows

[near valley]

unknown reasons is what he said?

[coral ibex]

he rips an augment rune on every pull during prog

[near valley]

the reasons were defo known

[coral ibex]

"it just says a contract violation"

who has the hopeful eyeroll gif

i need that pls

[drifting cloud]

https://imgur.com/1nUZrGo

[coral ibex]

thanks

[drifting cloud]

I mean its possible but probably 9/10 times they knowwhy

its kinda hard to get banned in wow thesedays

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078500556139659357/1266583932426653826/attachment.gif

[drifting cloud]

I served my time!

[near valley]

i've yet to serve my time

[thorn thorn]

In DF we had a raider get temp banned for 2 weeks cuz he allegedly told a pug he "doesnt give externals to Rag and QT players cuz they subhuman"

[coral ibex]

he recently started using a weakaura that posts in chat the real world dollar amount spent whenever he pops a rune or a flask

could that trigger like a

spam auto ban

[near valley]

no

[drifting cloud]

not for a month lol

[spice spire]

@cerulean walrus also has this

I fucking laugh so hard

[coral ibex]

ok bro was definitely buying gold

[thorn thorn]

Probably not

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/red-alert-c%26c-tim-curry-trying-not-to-laugh-funny-gif-12411782975325520978

[drifting cloud]

unless its his

2nd or 3rd offense

[thorn thorn]

If this was the case then people using the elitism addon for details would also get spam banned

[coral ibex]

"i havent bought gold since shadowlands"

[thorn thorn]

Since it does an announcement every time every player takes avoidable damage

[coral ibex]

[thorn thorn]

And its insanely fucking annoying

[coral ibex]

oh yea i hate that addon

only bc it is 100% likely to tilt someone who doesn't want to be called out on mistakes

[near valley]

oh damn

blizz pulled a w

[thorn thorn]

It just clogs up the chat and is in general just a nuisance

[near valley]

a caveat W*

[drifting cloud]

grieftorch whisper weakaura

[fallow canopy]

[drifting cloud]

yeah that was probably the 100th time they typed that

and got reported alot

[thorn thorn]

I also run an extremely degen WA that spams emotes and messages constantly in instances (sorry not sorry)

[thorn thorn]

I suspect he actually said something way worse

But thats what he told us he got banned for

[near valley]

i nearly made someone in my raid group cry because of it

it kept spamming her

[thorn thorn]

[drifting cloud]

it is kinda mean especially on prog

[cinder geode]

quick question on darkest night, is it a higher prio to reapply rupture in pandemic or use 7cp envenom with darkest night?

[balmy condor]

env

[wind totem]

Based

[winged quail]

I cannot legally upgrade my gear anymore

[spice surge]

Ideally you'd refresh the rupture before proccing the darkest night so youre not in that situation to begin with though

But ye like whisp said getting mark up higher prio

[tall atlas]

whats the script to sim races?

[spice surge]

Oh nvm you said pandemic, i was thinking you said it ran out, mb ignore me im silly

[near valley]

i'd never ignore you

[wise socket]

i can dm you the script

[dreamy rover]

its probably somewhere in #tc-research

[strange python]

if we get cage at mug zee is gg?

if not void elf

[tall atlas]

welp

thats more than i thought it would be

[keen spruce]

and yet

still not that much

[tall atlas]

i mean

[balmy condor]

[tall atlas]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2DSooh2BDf3Fsc5bx96H9K