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well it's a trinket comparison
Anyway I always take it with a pinch of salt
But I'm one of them 
yeah now you mention it... 
It looks at the Pictures and descides wich is prettier of course
it adds a stat stick

that's how
TIL
Fuck bis lists
amen
Wait, I've been using the wrong Eye this whole time?

loool
bring back stat sticks..
Yeah bring back Arcano Gigacristal
I should've known, Kezan is a location from Cataclysm. 
throw it away?
Burn it with fire
but tasty aple
BURN IT
hi, any idea on why my kingsbane does more damage when I rupture & garrots instead of casting envenom for the last 6 sec ? (envenom buff still running) (I have always 5 rupture stacks during all the kb)
Go on a trek across the country with a young girl and then get killed by strong girl with a golf club?
i ated it...
so I'm not sure what exactly you think the difference is
Poision Damage inc.
tho I always get more damages doing this than casting envenoms, it's happening on a regular basis
ok
you know envenom doesnt increase kb dmg
poison procs do
and its capped, so after a point doesnt increase
Your kingsbane almost 100% has max stacks like 7-8 seconds into the cast if you have envenom buff
what you cast during envenom doesn't matter
You're experiencing crit rng
you either cast envenom, which applies poisons
or you cast something else, which also applies poisons
90% of your poison applications during kingsbane are coming from auto attacks
so like

it's rng
I haven't been hitting 5cp in my opener a lot, it's frustrating
I don't get the Mutilate crit
mmmh okok, then I am getting extremely lucky, I almost always get 14M kb if I apply rupture to new targets mid kb, and I get 12M if I don't (always having 5 stacks too), crit I guess
the next times I will record myself and send clips
I don't have clips with me right now
logs?
clips won't help 
then log them
I learned while starting prog on gally today that if i dont crit on my opener im 1 finisher behind on my deathstalkers mark and i swap to the add slower madge
(this is inconsequential and doesn't change much)
why you swappin'
guys i feel i got scammed
it says only energy regen and attack speed.
Does haste speeds up fucking bleed/poison ticks or not?
I think once my guild gets more familiar i just spatter off boss
yes
But we only did a couple hours of prog and we wanted to just get through p1 (we almost did)
Wdym "swap"
first adds should really not be a problem
Adds? You guys are saying all this Mythic Raider mumbo jumbo
it doesnt matter... nothing does
Hey Carl, can I use your pool?
So you're saying im probably over doing it then
24 wipes haha
Idk you should have enough to kill it in time anyway, but you do you
Yeah i think it was just a first night lets over index on the mechanics and priorities kinda thing
recommend adding that this is the only time you use it to the text. only realized that from your previous comment here
reasonable request
better?
I was just behind our Warrior last night in damage, despite him having 6 ilvls on me and I not having my two crafted pieces that were made after raid.
legend
expanding on that - i guess you also only use it at max stacks during lingering darkness, or right before it wears off if you didnt get max stacks
well you should just always burn your stacks at some point during it
doesn't really matter when
yes but ideally with max stacks - no?
doesn't matter
how?
Is it better to also use during the end of the first Lingering Darkness window (e.g. ~40s), or to save first use until 2nd Lingering Darkness window (e.g. 2:30) ?
like think of it over the course of 7 minutes, you get 4 lingering darkness windows right
0:30, 2:30, 4:30, 6:30
you cast it in the first with like whatever stacks like fucking 10 or who cares
next window comes up 2 min later
you're at 23 maybe
you burn it back
Easy days
meaw
ok but if you instead used it at 30 every time it must be higher damage
Stack damage is linear
meow?
it means you use less often and outside of lingering
as long as you aren't overcapping on charges, you're doing the same damage
It also doesnt really do that much damage, it ends up at barely 2% of your damage overall with the lingering stuff
and it takes more than 2 minutes to fully stack
so you're just never hitting 30
and never overcapping
wtf? trinkets really are that wewak
and thus being 100% efficient
yeah
they got obliterated this expansion
Should I craft more gear? 
embellishments and trinkets in general
item effects as a whole giga suck
to make room for hero talent damage
Upgrading my belt was the same amount of damage increase as upgrading my trinket this tier
ok its true unless you hit 30 before lingering darkness comes up
roger

Grieftorch doing like 10% 
I think the best example is that the S4 embellishments from dragonflight are numerically stronger than the ones we have right now. Not like percentage wise, they just flatout give more stats than the ones we have rn
lmao we had to run out to get the final 1% of count after final boss
shud i set my loot specialization to sin before i open vault
or it does not matter
i main sub but i am planning to make the switch to sin
does plague damage fall under the category of magic? like is it buffed by chaos brand?
only thing sin/sub loot spec does is it gives u access to daggers, and wont give u non-daggers
and outlaw is the opposite
so no diff
between sin/sub
plague damage is nature damage afaik, which is buffed by chaos brand
bet was specifically wondering if singular focus damage is buffed by chaos brand, so that helps
this any good against mech bosses in the raid?
I had the same thing in my vault too
nah that item is pure ass tbh
good
hey guys what should be my first dmg source in m+? spatter or crimson tempest?
thanks
For hybrid spattee
more sanguine blades uptime?
not manually
try to get more uptime on sanguine blades for sure
there's no management required in an aoe pull
you should just have enough bleeds out from carnage
it looks like you are doing one garrote and rupture and thats it
just from how low they are
you should have a minimum of 5 ruptures out
on any aoe pull
sorry kinda new to assa specially in m+ content
i think my ct and rapture always up
on targets
but garotte isnt
if rupture is lower than envenom and you're playing the bleed build then no
rupture is definitely not always up
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
your bleeds spread for 12 seconds after stealth
ok
if you have DN you can open an aoe pack with gar > gar > rup > rup > which will get you 5 bleeds out
and then you can go from there
either spread more bleeds or not depending on the pack size
Hello. Im new to assasination rogue and since the bleed build is geting popular and on logs/archon all the top keys go for hyprid just wanted to ask is hyprid a lot better or what is the case? I think im performing better on bleed build since sometimes i fail on KB window due to lack of energy or having to wait to deathmark and KB align after not using KB on 60 second mark. I can fix that with playing some keys and doing that better but just asking. Only thing with bleed build that i dont like is that im going for a bit more haste and it will reflect in raiding where i dont want haste that much. Thanks for answering!
Haste is good on raid tho

Not myth but hey, its the trinket
he has KB in his breakdown
try the bleed build
its better and honestly easier to learn if you're just getting started imo
How about I try you mister notrickz 
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rNBV64aj9HRtvwh2 I am coming back to the game - I used to have insane sin parses but recently got some gray on mythic bosses. I am Invizibl, can someone maybe tell me what I’m missing?
I have seen it already and he says the build has potential in higher keys
if you're asking then you should be playing bleed
and only some of the +17s
(ie the hybrid/forced induction ones get better at that level allegedly)
are there any incoming rogue changes?
🔮
Can you tell the level of someone’s loyal customer buff on logs??
ye reverse engineer how much damage a spell is supposed to do based on their stats
Does Indiscriminate Carnage auto apply to targets w/o rupture?
ye
Is there a guideline for stats with Bleed build in M+?
I feel like i lack haste while fighting bosses
thanks bro
That's normal. You don't have enough energy regen to press something every GCD on ST.
you run out of energy in st because the spec is designed like that
ahh okey didnt really know that
switched from sub rogue few days ago cuz i got sick of doing no dmg after using burst
Sin has burst windows too
You're going to be energy starved, but that's fine
It's just the spec
As long as all your DOTs are ticking and you're putting in envenoms you're doing decent damage
thanks for the help guys
got another question, in workshop the first boss which is a double boss
do you keep using garrote on both of them? or only maintain it on main target
both
You can do both easily
i think energy starvation is even worse on sub outside dances
And you should do both, it's easy free damage
ye it really is
holy bonkers, i got 200 euro in customer dividends from my bank
You guys are Hardswapping on Mythic Bandit onto adds or just cleave/bleeds?
you cant really hardswap effectively as assa
So no its mostly a rupture on one of them and cleave from the boss
Similar to the rik situation
kk
Do you basically always want to put out at least one other rupture if there are adds on bosses? Stix vexie reverb etc?
I assume for the energy refund?
yo man,do we have any info on bis corruptions for sin?
also,does gushing wounds benefit from mastery?
Afaik void ritual for literally every spec in the entire game
No
Depends on your dm status
DSM DN
But yeah
Hey! After a total of 4 days of playtime i finally reached 668, what should aim for now? I also feel like my base HP is lower then other classes, is this normal for rogue?
Rupturing oab and stix adds is good
Rogue has feint as a defensive layer rather than max hp
yes, rogue is iirc the melee dps with the lowest hp
tbf, hunters/warlocks just get 300% stamina for free
so it looks funny in comparison
Also i have 2542 Rio score but i cant seem to get invited to +10 dungeons as well, should i try to push 3k?
You should prob sit around 2.7~2.8k thats when i started getting invited to 10's ;s
Well do w/e u want
I think it's more your ilvl than io
Im 668 rn.. Thought that would be enough
U also should remember any time u app to a key u gotta deal with 30+ other dps at the same time
Like I'm 674 ilvl
Used to play mage but thought it was boring.. Tbh rogue is the most fun i get rn
Yeah rogue is fun
What
that
I def do, not used to melee but got used to it after 2 days or so
yup,ive been playing rogue since the start,playing mage for like 2nd season but still doing some casual stuff on rogue
mage is way more fun
its personal preference i believe
think i been maxing myth dungeon vault since week 1 and still 668 :/
yea pugging myth raid is hell tho
or crafting with crests
Yeah, crafting, mythic raid, vault
Not good w gold so only managed to craft 3
Gonna craft 2. dagger when i have more
- dagger?
ah 2nd dagger
Do not craft a second dagger ever
2nd dagger not rly no
Oh why
Most useless gear slot in the game
I was gonna craft it today cuz i was sitting with a 658 dagger for a while
offhand is literally a stat stick
Ohh got it
Offhand daggers don’t count for ability damage
it does nothing beyond the secondary stats really
And the stats are horrid
mainhand? most important slot
offhand? least important
literally EVERYTHING goes before offhand
Shouldnt have crafted enhant for it i guess
yo my man,asked Eleem earlier about corruptions and said VR is best for everyone.Is it the case?(ik im silly skeptical wanted a confirmation)
Isen't the corruption enchants weeks away? :S
according to what we know still,coz ppl on research know stuff
or maybe i shoudl ask fuu

He wants to get a month ahead of the curve lmao
Surely nothing gets tuned in the next month

Yes
Does it throw your mastery out of whack
Hm that is strange
current signet+amp
yeah my bad had to specify
Silly you for thinking a 200% buff to the other effects would make em better than void ritual 
sec 🙂
Idk why they even bothered with the corruption shit since its just gonna be an incredibly watered down version of what we had in BFA
People are gonna be like "POG twilight dev" and then realize it now does 3% of their damage instead of 30%
Cuz it's a 0.5 patch and it needs power
Because it’s a 0.7 patch and it needs power
Gotta put something mandatory to keep you playing or else you're behind for the start of next patch 
Don't you want your 2% DPS increase for week 1?? Casual
I'd assume theyll be usable next patch t oo
Just like the helmet enchant in amirdrassil was usable in s4
sec i'll find where i saw that one
I genuinely wonder if this is based on the nature of DS and how it doesn’t press fok as much due to fok rules with blindside. If you’re not generating more CP, crit value goes down a bit especially since it’s baked into several of our envenoms
That’s just a theory tho
hey
Someone smarter than I can probably tell you exactly why 
sry rogue assa will be better now on m+ or raid st or hunter mm? i have problem 😄
I mean its as simple as 675 bigger number than 658


Lmao
I miss old echoing void on PTR
Funny cause i crafted a weapon yesterday, should have waited but tbh idk
Double high ilevel weps poggies
When people ran 5 tank keys
And just pulled the entire dungeon and let EV delete everything
Buddy they still can it’s just bdk meta
Nah old EV was HP based
It was a % of your HP
Lasted one whole fucking week like that on PTR lmao
lmao
Mine was doo doo
you sim with raid buffs
I actually have a question - and assume that this will be better to be answered by @balmy condor - crit I assume is losing prio in bleed build due to fok rules I’d assume yeah?
Idk who else would
It’s the same bit as earlier with wildray
Where pacemaker just sims worse
On vexie heroic is the play to hold deathmark and kingsbane until the armor drop?
For the lust and the dam pot
you can send kb hold mark
We are at this awkward dps spot where armor drops like 8-10 seconds before mark up again
And I’m chasing parse
🙂
hey my stealthy brothers, does someone have some advice for caustic spatter / bleeds in raid? idk where i should stand for optimal fan of knifes + caustic spatter and also where it is worth to apply bleeds
Well the debuff on the boss is 45 seconds long
So if the armor drops 10 seconds before its fine
is Dungeon slice best for siming mytic+ or 5 bosses 1 min?
does it make sense that this catalyst swap would be a 75k gain in ST for me? im wondering what the robot is cooking
i have a ton of crit and mastery already
You dont have 4p equipped
4 set


Pick this in top gear so it doesnt happen again 😄
hey my stealthy brothers, does someone have some advice for caustic spatter / bleeds in raid? idk where i should stand for optimal fan of knifes + caustic spatter and also where it is worth to apply bleeds
3/4p fatebound with spatter my brother is TRYING to parse 0
https://v.redd.it/w2zsr6m7ukwe1 make sure you guys watch with sound

ohhhh i got the off piece helmet in the vault and the shoulders in raid and equipped them at the same time

2nd pin, when the target lives longer than 10 sec
i'm so cooked
ouh sorry, thanks
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
I'd go bald at that point
I know its minor but which one do you all think is better?
The difference in dps is so minor that saving repair gold is better
Makes sense, thanks 🙂
Indestructible bis
dunno i opened mine today and had zero problem with it
Alright, thank you.
so most likely its not that common
Safe, got my pacemaker today 🐸
Huge
I’m finally getting tier that I’ve been yearning for
If jastor doesn’t drop tn we craft ring and chuckle for vault the rest of the season
stupid chungus drops

I always let mine marinate
for a few days
gotta let the flavor develop
9 pm marinating worked for me this season
Got both trinkets already and haven’t been SAD once

my friend just took me through a truely demonic 7am leg workout
and i think i'm gonna go back to bed
until tomorrow
i might shid my pants and vom
why would you agree to do a leg workout at 7am

we do wednesday morning workouts
cuz he has a baby at home and it's the only time he can get away
cuz his mom watches the bb
I thought we were doing pull day
but who watches you, babe?

I'm unsupervised
how do u think i got so feral
can't be cause I got my eye on you 

by selecting the talent spec
Absolute bis time for a leg day
9 pm demonic leg days hit for the next 3 days
rip:'(
huge logs
!fuu
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So happy I’m not rogue this tier
Still think it’s BS some mobs just don’t care you have stealth
Not talking abt true sight btw, moreso talking abt stuff like the mines in ML that just unstealth you for shits and giggles
hey guys got a question about Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet
should i wait for that 30 stacks or just use it when rdy?
thx sir 😄
When are people replacing the circlet?
Its ilvl 700 or so value so we are not
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Any idea why my envenom buff drops off before it should ?
its a bug
anybody who is using Hekili with Assa, do you enable the "Funnel Priority" option in the settings?
delete hekilli and forget it exists
i like to delete my brain and just hammer buttons
still doing more dps than meta classes xD
What does the funnel priority setting do
Having a rough time with my ST in M+ with the bleed builld. Just did a 12 CB and my dam was very rough during boss fights. Any tips on a ST variation to my rotation??

assas doesn't do ST in m+ builds
just is what it is
If checked priorities for funnel specs may change slightly to use single target spenders in AoE situations
you will do better just doing that instead of using hekilli
supported specs: Assa, Sub, Enha, Destro
and like, im only half joking
i know but i am now so used with hekili i dont want to rehearse my spec again to think when what to use
I don't think that it would matter
its bad
i still blast 20m+ dps its not a bad thing to use hekili
its assa, your m+ boss dmg is not great and will max out around that number most of the time
you're either maintaining CT or you're using envenom
or refreshing bleeds
i mean pull with me Brew or Prio key i give you 20m aoe
I mean you can absolutely do 20m in a pull pretty easily
assas doesn't have a spammable AoE spender
so it shouldn't matter
but also don't use hekili 
Or playing unholy dk
I WILL

hekili slave
If you can hekili and purple+ log in myth then you're gucci
i guess i just suck because i need a pretty huge pull to hit 20m
if i install hekili i'll be doing 20m on 8 mob pulls?
On massive pulls would you guys get your first big IC set of ruptured and garrotes off and then use a vanish charge to spread some more quick ruptures to more targets or nah?
8 is like 6-8m
no kidding
yea
so i guess saying you can do 20m is more of an outlier
Hekili needs to get me doing 69 million dps for me to use it
first pull of brew or prio with all CDs popping, your trinkets + BL
ez
yeah thats the point 😄
those pulls are enormous
sry rogue assa will be better now on m+ or raid st or hunter mm? i have problem 😄
Hunter MM is slightly stronger
it's the hekili paradox. If a spec is as simple as assas, then there's no benefit to using hekili because it's so simple to just hit the right buttons
If a spec is complicated, then hekili is almost certainly broken and doesn't give you the right information anwyays.
So it's either pointless or useless 
yeah but hekili has the most optimization on assa and outlaw of all classes
but still if i feel comfortable with it why not
but assas is so simple that you're also not going to grief yourself using it
it doesnt make a player without hekili automatically superior to me 😄
i mean
i comfortably play +16s like this so i dont really mind tbh
someone not using hekili has more brain power available to pay attention to mechanics
because they're not staring at the hekili icon to tell them what to press
Not necessarily.
I’m just not going to gatekeep someone’s experience by the addons they choose to use
even if i stare at it , imagine not watching the gameplay and still blasting more than anyone else in my group? xD
Let people play how they want
tho i dont stare at it

If someone is doing the content they want and choose to use hekili then who cares
Well hekili does have a maintainer
ye i play rogue since WoD and started using Hekili TWW S1
Or did in 11.0
good way to "learn"
Idk if he’s still in it but he did bring the logic to the spec pretty well
learn this
In st at least
i mean you did come here and ask if you could improve your gameplay by changing an option in hekili and people in this channel tend to suggest self improvement instead


nope, somebody already answerewd my question clearly
everyone plays as they want 😄
Hi all guys, first time here :), have a question about the 3 builds we have know, wich is better in overall terms? And when play one or other? Im rerolling to assa, was a outlaw player D:
Self reliance is generally viewed as the best way, but many use it and swear by it
I think he just asked if that setting does anything useful

I’m not going to tell someone what they feel is right or wrong
M+ or raid
M+
Bleed is easiest and provides most consistency especially learning the spec
As you get higher and timing is more concise hybrid can be beneficial for a hair more ST but 99% of Andy’s are just doing whatever keys and bleed blasting is ideal for that
I’d say whatever keys are like 16s and below
15s likely actually
So basically, any key below 14 bleeds build and above 14 hybrid Just for st dmg?
There’s no hard line
Think bleed is fine at all levels
Can see a world where hybrid is good when you’re in desperate need of some ST/burst
what flavor
Only the best for his bees
He likes American cheese specific? He’s such a weirdo man
Understand all guys tyvm, are some big difference on rotation between hybrid and bleed? Im just playing it at same way
no
what talents do u use in theater of pain? since its more of a cleave dungeon and lots of single target adds
Why are people saying hybrid does better Singletarget than bleed? Isn’t that just not true?
no change

It does on demand with dm/kb.
neither does good ST so it doesn’t matter
Looks like that mythic eye is coming through
You did deserve it after all 
I’d say stick to your normal build u play
With 11.1.5, the personal resource display is no longer tracking buffs (i.e indiscriminate carnage /feint) has anyone encountered this issue as well? and if so is there a workaround?
dude everything lined up in this fight
71% crit on kingsbane
Sometimes you just win big
would you take dagger or pants from vault? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1DBoYEzy2LKBzWStvvzruT
if you raid mainly prolly dagger
no raid
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
then yea
get pants for mainstats
since you have 665 offhand
the difference from 665 offhand to 675 wont matter for you then
ig its more if worth going 678 on mainhand but pants are big upgrade
if you want to improve the gameplay, the correct answer is a macro a day
i think the pants are the move
Hey yall. Trying to help a friend who is new to the game and playing Ass. Rogue
I see a lot of top rogues are prioritizing mastery heavily to crit. Is that accurate?
but you can probably assume you'll see myth track legs in the box again
thanks for feedback
so there's good arguments for both tbh
yeah thats also a valid point :\
both are good stats
one hero talent for assa prioritizes crit over mastery and the other doesn't prioritize crit as much
but the one that prios crit is significantly less playable
so big mastery is usually just the play
@balmy condor can we pretend that the .5 dagger from new renown is even competitive
Okay got it. That’s the caustic splatter build you’re referring to with mastery?
No, just all builds
Thank ya both. I’ve had him on hekili just to get a feel for the game. I fear he’s gotten dependent lol
Seeing in here it’s pretty ass for rogue and just about anyone is that right?

assa rotation is pretty static, just upkeep dots and send envenoms
i dont think you need hekili but if your friend doesn't want to change then its whatever
Got a guy who never played arcane mage and pushed to 3.2k io using hekili
Well its better for some specs than others
So idk, I personally prefer to learn myself with all the mistakes
Does that mean that we prefer that signet is proccing mastery instead of crit?
His big thing is wanting to do better on meters. He’s 664 and just getting heavily outgunned by other assa rogues in guild
you could send a log with both of them on the same fight
in my experience Hekili doesn't teach how to react to a situation; it just keeps track of CD's
for a compare
its usually just uptime and proper cp allocation to finishers
i also think the time you spend learning to look at hekili and do what it says could just be spent getting familiar with your spec weakaura while you hit a dummy but there's no wrong way to play world of warcraft
it's not just me getting a sticky stealth bar is it? i'm using blizzard UI action bars and it's not switching in combat
For sure. I’ll see if I can find any help with wa for him. I’m sure he’s struggling with CP allocation a bit
Appreciate the help yall really do
Fml
Ruined perfect attendance this season cause my WiFi died for no explainable reason
-9k dkp
i missed raid to go to coachella last week
we have an attendance pot so im out of the running for it
perfect attendance stays in the pot and if u get eliminated the pot grows for other people 
minus dkp is a good bit since ven is actually in a dkp guild
For single target since mastery is prio is it better to run HoC and signet? Or seaforium and HoC
I simmed and reverb radio is a 80k dps Upgrade and belt is a 60k dps upgrade. what should i pick im unsure
( im already at 13% haste)
this spec fucking sucks
either way i'd just pick the bigger upgrade based on the sim
this is the sim
im taking it with cat next week in mind
ah ok there's multiple changes involved
i thought simply taking reverb radio was netting you +80k dps which is wild
almost kept up with the broken warlock spec for a pull on bandit! @coral ibex
got dragged into stix prog finally, killed it on 2nd pull of the night
this is the best way to prog
skip 80 pulls
anyone else has WAs broken in a "addon profiler spams error messages about 5 times per second" way?
this is like 15 seconds into the pull?
dude maybe i will too if i remember to equip 4p
i mean i was doing 3.1m on my guild's best wipe (36%)
lots of 2t cleave goes hard
You say that
I have the most
And I’m saving it for H eye
If H eye drops today I’m gonna kms
ye smthin like that

i asked our lock why he plays destro instead of aff and he said some shit about it being "better prio"
Sounds like the same answer I give when no sub
for sims, in bleed build most of you doing 13% haste only? or is it something as a baseline. asking because top gear keeps giving me haste / mastery over cirt/mastery over and over again. maybe someone has some info as to why that is
Translation: I don’t want to
Why: it’s better than whatever other options presented.
There’s no set point

How detrimental is spamming to the bleeding builds damage?
Spamming what

Basically if I am spamming and my energy is always below 150

how do u even get points idgi
do they?
what
i didnt knew people are still stupid enought to do that
or that people would go with it
lmao
Damn you do anything special with CD timings or you just hit big?
he hit big

its a new patch and nobody has killed bosses yet
and logs got a reset
dont tell anyone

he did also have 71% KB crit
still he did alot of dmg doesnt amtter about reset
2.8 is still a lot
can i racechange mid raid week
we did not get raid buff this week right
yes
Banger combo
Kimchi fried rice is one of the few times I’ll use spam in a dish
Ye I avoid broccoli in fried rice for that reason
Usually will get mixed veg frozen and just bang it out
spam good in kimchi fried rice
i got this stuff from my mom and it's extra funky
she very korean
i normally like it a little more fresh
but if i'm not eating it by itself it's fine
i have maple spam rn
put it in an omlette
that do sound kinda banger
I bought a costco rack of default spam and it's too salty for most stuff
i think i'd go low sodium next time
yeah for sure
Ayo shut the fuck up rn dont you hate on gods green gift to this earth
I ate the damn broccoli
it's just so mid in fried rice
cuz some bites just randomly all broccoli
Sorry if this has been discussed, just finished raid - is there a CTW bug this patch? Wasn't proccing (least the buff indicator)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
!bug
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
I just felt something tickle on my neck while I was doing Xav the Unfallen and I brushed it with my hand and slapped a bee into the glass in front of me
that GIF just re-traumatized me

I don't see anything but wouldn't be shocked considering new patch
u are spec'd into CTW right? 
Thats news to me
On your WeakAuras?
checked the log from raid, the buff was definitely up
I don't adventure to the discords anymore
I dunno if other people do it, but I modified the CTW icon in the Luxthos WeakAuras to not show up when I'm talented into Vicious Venoms
so maybe related to that
ah
Maybe I guess sure
I genuinely don’t know why alchemists stone is showing better (Ik all trinkets kinda suck but still)
Well it was like 20 ilvls higher
first raid switching to VV, so assume whispyrs WA got the smurts and discounts it when talented
So thats why it was better
Has anyone played OAB Mythic ? Do you just stay on boss and spatter on adds?
Azerokk's Resonating Heart 678 vs Improvised Seaforium Pacemaker 678 in m+?
sim
xd
Well he showed it earlier

Azerokk was like 0.6% higher
Bro probably had crit out the wazoo
Is it signet
but didnt get any goiod answear xD
Do you have signet
Please 🥺
I appreciate all the work you do for theory crafting all of these builds Whispyr , really cool of you to do for the community and a huge help. Thank you
Jesus fuck lmao
its sigent vs one of thos mention
stay on boss i believe
Okay so you take the pacemaker and then lose like half your crit
And you’ll be aight
have sim´d diff stats, didnt want me to change but ye
but i love my crit
pacemaker more
ya know
better
its on a timer activates every 60's by itself when you press a thing
plus main stat

Pacemaker uptime is almost 50% too. It increases your crit for 15 seconds, and your crits increase the time for 15 seconds. So you end up the buff for 30 seconds.
just proc every time you in cd window, ez
is atrophic still stacking does anyone have this crucial info
right, any specific shite I need to know for sprocket? shadowstep is banned I take it
I thought it was upgraded to 678
Just weird to have back to back shit
Not that i noticed the boss feels like a patchwork fight with some knockbacks at specific points at least for us melees
yeah its meant to be chill for melee
so
i'm vibing
still happy about fluking a stix kill. Guild spends 80 pulls on it on previous nights when I'm on bench. Get dragged in tonight, killed in 2 pulls.
Good boss
10/10
2 Pulls is probably the sweetspot to still enjoy that boss holy i hate that one
got very lucky. Someone had to be 15 minutes late so they stuck me in so they could do some warm up pulls
And killed it.
its not so bad if you the tank that never takes balls :x
1 ball over 82 pulls 
i like those odds
I heard Outlaw with Killing Spree is really good on it
deal
get to be bench again
life is good

Gamer
i like this kind of prog, got to catch up on some books, got a boss kill
whats not to love
Hobbies outside of wow? Unheard of
Same old stuff, banter, ironic homoerotic banter, unironic homoerotic banter
gotta do something while applying for dungeons

i always love getting a faceful of what the boys ave been workin on
is there a bug with weapon durability? my weapon went from full to 0 during a dungeon with no deaths
@golden loom how's el bandito
Seal Team Six level of sniping
yeah uh idk it was only a 9 rookery
in the gutter
kinda like it tbh, best pull like 48%
im havin fun
jastor diamond from tw

Wait does it take stats from a random person
or whoever is closest
im supposed to be pooling energy in keys? is that why my SB is so low
Well you have infinite energy in aoe
when rupture sniping for energy on bandit should I do it at 5+ or 1 CP?
or should I just not be doing it at all
I usually just send the bonespike combo point onto the reel assist
as in pandemic rupture on OAB -> bonespike refunded CP on add
yeah did it that pull and it felt good
Hey all. I'm running a load of sims for swapping over to Assa, but for some reason I can't get gem/enchants to work. Specifically, it will only ever select all of one type of gem and never mix for the meta, and not replace a shit enchant I had. I must be missing something obvious, does anyone know? Report here: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q4FvTYLNCARsR1FjLRbGxb
we're not lusting on pull which feels rough
yeah I know
I'm just saying
feels rough not to have it
I'm sure later on it'll feel fantastic
ahahah
when we get to that point
idk I feel like I actually have infinite energy on this fight
Barely beat the feral kek
probably cause of the ad rups
I’d there a specific person you guys would suggest on logs to check out to know when to send cds on the boss fights? I’m clearing heroic for the 2nd time on my rogue tonight and I want to try to parse higher than blue this time 😭
the warrior LOL
popped another 23M+ demise
His key. Boosted.
the only CD you dont use on CD is shiv
650ish i think. 13 priory
I'm on mobile so it will look different. You want to check max colors under the diamond, it will sim multiple colors that way
Perfect, thanks!

Pretty much the ideal comp for assa tho
Because monk?
Monk shaman Druid war all good buffs lol
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Anyone here replaced the double shiv talent with iron wire in M+? Talking of bleed build
It's a 2% dps loss but how much of a big impact it'll be on a +14 or +13
Depends on dungeon.
anyone find whispyr's afenar edit WA be glitchy after the patch? if i'm in my M+ build it works find but when I switch to ST Raid spec the rupture icon doesn't appear.
this aint lfg
oke where do i find that?
theres a few in game tools
i think default binding for LFG is I
Like?
Kind of ironic of guy to chastise LFG posts
Like I wouldn’t take IW in a few dungeons this season
Bro was advertising GN mythic sales
Don’t think it’s too big of an impact tbh
In this discord?
so guessing lack of anyone saying they have also had issues its just my weak aura lol. i'll delete and re-import it to see if it fixes it lol.
anyone knows if you farm mementos in BFA we get to keep them for horrific visions?


























