#assassination

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dreamy rover
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must be worth

bronze pike
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mark of the sanguine beast: your poison tick has a 5% chance to generate a stack of poisoned blood. once you reach 100 stacks of poisoned blood you summon a poison bloodbeast and your envenom costs 0 combopoints and half energy,. exach envenom extends poison bloodbeast

waxen oyster
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I ruptured 2 week 1

bronze pike
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sin is fixed

waxen oyster
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that was when we didnt have gear

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though

dreamy rover
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poison bloodbeast

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gotta be fucking with me

waxen oyster
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i mean legion poisonbomb

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was on some real bullshit

balmy condor
sudden brook
balmy condor
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it's an ongoing bit

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you get used to it

dreamy rover
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i actually lol'd

balmy condor
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it's a good bit to be fair

dreamy rover
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poison bloodbeast is INSANE

balmy condor
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baits people every time

west crown
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97 can’t be that bad shrug

sudden brook
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legion logs are archived fuck

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Poison bomb would literally be top damage

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good times

dreamy rover
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i really want the gally head mount 😦

balmy condor
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yeah it's basically just like caustic spatter

dreamy rover
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did you get it guy?

balmy condor
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wait a minute..

sudden brook
dreamy rover
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lol

sudden brook
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Ig ot everything bruv

waxen oyster
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it got amped

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by zoldyck

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btw

sudden brook
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Mount is cool tho, not as cool as fyrak mount tho

dreamy rover
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fyrakk was insane

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btw im farming this shit nowadays

waxen oyster
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fire owl is good

sudden brook
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coolest mount in the game not close

bronze pike
bronze pike
sharp viper
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cigar smoking machine gun top hat mech > owl on fire

bronze pike
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He had better sim fixes

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Then I had

balmy condor
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true

waxen oyster
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just ride on

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dick vibration's mount

wary light
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Any EU gamers braved it and opened their vault yet?

red schooner
dreamy rover
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almost converted me into a cigar smoking machine gun top hat mech believer

subtle tundra
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you do it

dreamy rover
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yo @sudden brook please hook me up with the flarendo mount

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please

sharp viper
gloomy heart
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how are people exploiting to renown 20

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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and the game breaks

gloomy heart
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lucky

balmy condor
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cause wow's codebase is a pile of sand

sharp viper
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oh renown 20 bug

gloomy heart
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why can’t my game break!

sharp viper
dreamy rover
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hmmmm delicious

red schooner
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I didn't realise yanderedev was the main code maintainer kekdog

dreamy rover
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large envenom me happy?

gloomy heart
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sudden demise hit harder

balmy condor
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10m ain't shit

dreamy rover
sudden brook
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10m 🤏

dreamy rover
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cmon man i was born with this envenom size and cant change it....

balmy condor
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it's not the size of the envenom it's what you cast it on

dreamy rover
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true

waxen oyster
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you needed to log into a lv80

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that you havent logged in for s2

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apparently

dreamy rover
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ah fuck me

sudden brook
dreamy rover
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thats a big boy

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18M big money

wary light
balmy condor
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18m 🤏

snow hamlet
balmy condor
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I've taken shits bigger than that

wary light
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Damn Whispyr be like "8 inches is average" out here

subtle tundra
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yeah it is

worn geyser
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the dps loss from the bee trinket is offset by the aura u gain riding it into the boss right

haughty flicker
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no

balmy condor
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I had a natty 20mil the other day

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this one on vexie

worn geyser
wary light
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Okay cheater

red schooner
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It's why I keep the bee trinket in my bags, for those occasions where you must bee

runic hinge
sharp viper
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to bee or not to bee

balmy condor
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this was on one arm the other night

red schooner
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That's better than one bee

sudden brook
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Bro including encounter buffs

balmy condor
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3% mb king

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stay small

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keep malding

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🤏

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I didn't have payline on this

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:)

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could've been gigantic

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but I'm bad at the game

sudden brook
balmy condor
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holy

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he's a grower not a shower

gloomy heart
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hax

haughty flicker
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i feel inadequate

sudden brook
haughty flicker
balmy condor
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gapped unlucky

sharp viper
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guy is now assassination TC

haughty flicker
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true

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succession is decided by the biggest envenom

subtle tundra
sudden brook
dreamy rover
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how the fuck

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do you even

sudden brook
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Be 674 with all the best items

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Lingering dn shiv enevnom

subtle tundra
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fingering dn shit invenom

dreamy rover
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+lingering+shiv+aura+max eye stack+prepot+large cock

sudden brook
dreamy rover
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unarguably the most important prog consumable

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its not even up to debate

prisma coral
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while i agree

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i counter with

waxen oyster
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from wod

stable pasture
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can you put writhing armor banding on a neck/ring?

dreamy rover
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sadly

dreamy rover
stable pasture
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ok no ascension for me then

balmy condor
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ring craft is diabolical

prisma coral
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@dreamy rover even considering that the fish are still from bfa

stable pasture
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debating just making another rogue

hearty seal
balmy condor
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HUH

dreamy rover
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lol

stable pasture
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i fucked up so much crest shit on this char

dreamy rover
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give up on the entire character

stable pasture
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legit fk em

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gear not even gigga chad

balmy condor
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fucked up on 0.5 ilvl

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literally unplayable

stable pasture
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nah

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i fked up

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by putting all my eggs into the outlaw basket

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and boosting trinkets dogpoopoo for assas

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and other bits

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sadge

dreamy rover
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? ok so lets break it down

balmy condor
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okay but if you boost, it's free?

prisma coral
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I dont think the dsm has catalogued the illness of making a 2nd rogue.

dreamy rover
stable pasture
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boost?

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oh

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True

dreamy rover
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sus dwight

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sussy dwighty

stable pasture
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but i sent haste/vers belt

balmy condor
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just recraft whatever you have crafted and L on the mainhand gg

stable pasture
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haste/vers wrist

balmy condor
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okay

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so recraft them?

stable pasture
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i mean

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send mythic items

dreamy rover
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you can even rock those

stable pasture
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sent*

dreamy rover
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theyre not bad

stable pasture
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tru

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i am

dreamy rover
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dwighty is sussy

solar wyvern
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Im confused whats the problem?

balmy condor
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none of this sounds problematic so far

worn geyser
dreamy rover
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yhea he's sus

stable pasture
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i mean you can boost trinkets

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but if you dont get trinkets

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what are you boosting

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idk how it's sus lol

dreamy rover
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wow

balmy condor
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you can farm signet and pacemaker

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what's the issue

stable pasture
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you spend your vault rng on trinkets for something else

dreamy rover
stable pasture
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so you have 2 items that are instantly 9 ilvls behind

solar wyvern
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So if u didnt upgrade outlaw trinkets you'd still have nothing to boost since you don't have the item

prisma coral
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like i understand why shadowstep doesn't let me escape gaols, but I am still disappointed

balmy condor
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I'm starting to understand

dreamy rover
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uhhhhh

balmy condor
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the issue isn't that you bricked your rogue

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the issue is that you're mad about vault rng

stable pasture
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sent crests non efficiently

balmy condor
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how terrible

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anyway

stable pasture
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time to re-do

dreamy rover
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yup that warrants a whole new rogue

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good luck man

solar wyvern
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Ngl i dont think you're"bricked" if you have hero track trinkets

golden loom
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Leveling a new Rogue is based tho fuck the haters

balmy condor
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I sent crests into pacemaker/signet week 1 to 665

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that's "a waste"

stable pasture
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i mean

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i feel like ive wasted shit

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like

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i made a dk 2 weeks ago

umbral cypress
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u guyz still waiting for vault fix? or opened?

solar wyvern
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I was running hero track pace/signet for most of the expac, and champion house of cards on sub

stable pasture
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spam upgraded all hc pieces etc..

balmy condor
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okay well so far you haven't actually said anything that's a waste

stable pasture
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and the like 2 myth track pieces it got

stable pasture
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but my rogue is like stuck at 665

dreamy rover
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are you on crack charrend

solar wyvern
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Uhh

lusty kraken
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MA build is simming higher for me

solar wyvern
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Season!

dreamy rover
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😄

stable pasture
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and i dont have enough crests to upgrade like 4 pieces from 658

dreamy rover
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now im happy

stable pasture
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idek what ive done

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seems cooked

paper tundra
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im new to assa, anybody know where i find a usefull deathstalker WA that works?

golden loom
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I also sent 665 pace/signet and got myth track versions in b2b weeks, thats why I am sending a new char

balmy condor
prisma monolithBOT
dreamy rover
lusty kraken
balmy condor
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I'm not ruining it

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I'm bringing you back to the light

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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VV is a healthy talent

prisma coral
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I could make the argument that being stuck at 665 isnt going to block you from doing literally anything outside of the absolute most minimal optimizations that your play could overcome if it truely mattered

lusty kraken
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does spatter work with mutilate?

balmy condor
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yes

runic hinge
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Mut ahead of KB HOLY

lusty kraken
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never lucky

dreamy rover
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so running VV or M.A. i dont ever use my clear the witness proc on 1 target mr whospor?

solar wyvern
# stable pasture seems cooked

Im so very confused, what is the expectation for you rn? You're gonna be short 678 on at minimum 5-6 pieces rn. 8 if you have bad rng

dreamy rover
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thats something that bugs me

balmy condor
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you use it on 1 with lingering

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but it's kinda whatever

dreamy rover
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ok

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i really enjoy sending aoe builder on st

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thrilling button to press

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ill keep doing it then

balmy condor
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idk which wa's you use but mine will auto-show/hide the buff if you should use or not

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brain off

dreamy rover
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yo genius moment?

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adding condition rn

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what wa has that by default?

balmy condor
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just take it from my pack idk

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it has a range check on it and everything

dreamy rover
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dreamy rover
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get stolen whispyr

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im about to steal ur stuff

balmy condor
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yeh I mean that's what it's there for

dreamy rover
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bruh i just tried to import a weakaura as a talent

golden loom
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Technically if OAB lives with 0.01% hp today its my fault for sending crests into hero track trinkets and my myth track ring therefore being 2 upgrade levels less monkahmm

dreamy rover
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cooked

prisma coral
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Whispry that pack has acctually been great for me, if not in whole but as help in solving specific needs

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and modifying it

golden loom
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Might have to sign as abscent and avoid the potential shame!

prisma coral
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thx

balmy condor
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glad to hear it man

prisma coral
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sometimes i dont need to reinvent the wheel

dreamy rover
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yhea so i imported your weakaura

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uhhhh

balmy condor
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does not look like you did

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there are

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exactly 0 rogue icons

dreamy rover
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detection in the middle there counts maybe?

vital flicker
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Does that new dagger from the event actually buff auto attack damage? I got it on an alt and it literally doesn't show up on sims, details or anything. I don't think it would be good but it sucks that I can't even check

balmy condor
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don't think anyone could be fucked to test and implement into sims

golden loom
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Now thats a bis looking item!!

balmy condor
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legit no one gives a shit about this patch

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it's kinda hilarious

prisma coral
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100%

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which sucks as there seem to be some kinda cool items

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nobody gives a fuck about

golden loom
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Is the knife good tmog atleast

dreamy rover
haughty flicker
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it purple

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so yes

balmy condor
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I mean they added a dagger with auto damage

vital flicker
prisma coral
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sucks in that they are not max level

dreamy rover
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GG

balmy condor
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at max it's maybe 3k?

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lemme napkin math

haughty flicker
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is it reduced stat budget

golden loom
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Haste stacking just got even better!

balmy condor
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doesn't look like it

haughty flicker
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idk what the numbers look like

vital flicker
balmy condor
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okay so hunt them down average hit is 77.3k

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87k on this log

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so lets be generous and say it's 1/20th of hunt them down

prisma coral
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whispyr did you play during the last tier of BFA with the %hase corruption thing where we used tempest in ST?

runic hinge
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maybe we cast snd in opener again for it up sooner

prisma coral
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i feel like time is a flat circle

balmy condor
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that would put the dagger's effect at 0.2%

runic hinge
haughty flicker
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huge gains

balmy condor
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0.2% is like

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8 ilvl?

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6??

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maxes at champ track

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so it gets beat by hero track daggers

golden loom
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Well its equal to a maxed hero track dagger then no?

haughty flicker
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only if you're spending gildeds on hero track daggers though

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which is cringe

golden loom
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So its like gilded crests without spending them

balmy condor
golden loom
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Infinite value dagger

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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insano value

prisma coral
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when you posted about the bleed build thing I was like, "this sounds really familiar"

balmy condor
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I mean they're really not equal at all

prisma coral
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true

balmy condor
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garrote is the weakest bleed in a bleed build

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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and you're mostly relying on the spread energy and CT

dreamy rover
prisma coral
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and like shrouded suffocation or whatever was a big deal then i i remember

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maybe i dont

balmy condor
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whereas the nyalotha stuff was legit just max haste steroid everything and have infinite energy always and your exsang condenses insanely large garrote and then you afk for 2 min

prisma coral
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it was like on every piece before you killed yourself

balmy condor
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nyalotha you actually could not spend your energy fast enough

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you were overcapping energy just by existing

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and outside of vendetta you did actually 0 damage

dreamy rover
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i wish we had spare energy

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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was like current sub basically but instead of dance/sectec you had exsang/garrote

bronze pike
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ubut but

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whipsyr

dreamy rover
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actually unlocked a few memories for me

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i miss vendetta

bronze pike
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i have to restealth

prisma coral
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i mean your could play DH then and your corruption did more damage than you the player

bronze pike
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for my big garrotds

balmy condor
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that was a thing for assa as well

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the only reason exped corruptions were popular was because infinite stars rng

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but infinite stars was just better

dreamy rover
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whispyr i though kezan would be better for sin because it stacks more and you get to execute with big agility

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but sims say otherwise

balmy condor
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issue was raid fights got too fast for stars to ramp

prisma coral
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stars for st and that tornado for multi

dreamy rover
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kinda disappointing

balmy condor
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so I had to come up with the bleed thing

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and I regret bringing it into the world

prisma coral
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was that you then?

balmy condor
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yes

prisma coral
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hahaha thanks

dreamy rover
prisma coral
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I spent so much fucking time running that scenario

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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what

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3min

balmy condor
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yes

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it takes 3 min for kezan to stack

dreamy rover
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why does it only gain value in 6-7min fights then

balmy condor
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roughly

static glacier
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All I’m saying is our dungeon st wasn’t shit when vendetta was in the gamegarf

dreamy rover
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what is going on

balmy condor
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because it takes 3 min to stack?

runic hinge
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cause before 3 min its poopy

haughty flicker
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because you spent the first 3 minutes with a weaker trinket

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lmao

dreamy rover
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ahhhh

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ok

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yhea brain kinda small here

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be patient with me

dreamy rover
static glacier
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Max stacked kezan is like 2x a regular trinket though

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Illegal amounts of agi

balmy condor
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almost fell for it

dreamy rover
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lol

static glacier
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Tbf I remember having good dungeon ST in sl

dreamy rover
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ragebaiting has to be one of the best activities to do when bored

static glacier
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Can’t speak on legion or bfa

balmy condor
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legion we had poison bomb

haughty flicker
static glacier
balmy condor
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bfa we had echoing blades and our st was kinda mid

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but then the m+ pushers were like

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YOOOOOOO HASTE CORRUPTIONS

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and it was kinda ass

rotund oak
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bfa sin st was mad 😄

balmy condor
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but same shit like now I guess

prisma coral
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outlaw was the fire mage sidekick

balmy condor
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multidotting in s1 bfa was good too

rotund oak
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we all were supporting the firemage yup

balmy condor
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but sub/outlaw kinda sucked in s1 bfa

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so

dreamy rover
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WHEN are weakaura devs updating this double progress text is getting to me

prisma coral
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true

balmy condor
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kind of a gimme patch

static glacier
static glacier
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Btw when is tomorrow morning for NA

haughty flicker
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define morning

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its morning now technically

balmy condor
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define tomorrow

rotund oak
# balmy condor so

my man,outlaw s1 bfa was doing 2 times the dmg the entire party did in keys

dreamy rover
static glacier
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7am pdt

dreamy rover
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is causing double timer text issues

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since patch

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and its driving me crazy

static glacier
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Aka are the vaults fixed

balmy condor
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7am pdt on wednesday is in 6 hours

haughty flicker
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thats like 6 hours

balmy condor
dreamy rover
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pov the aura i stole from you but with 2 timer texts

prisma coral
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as s1 the hard target cap for melee? cant remember

haughty flicker
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thanks for reminding me that im not asleep btw

rotund oak
static glacier
dreamy rover
balmy condor
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interesting

prisma coral
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i mean yeah back then we were still fucking tabing everything but fok

balmy condor
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nothing had target caps until shadowlands

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shadowlands added them cause of tol dagor

prisma coral
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okay fair i couldnt remember when that happened

static glacier
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Even then I’m fairly sure ct wasn’t capped

vital flicker
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shadowlands sin rogue was kinda a joke in keys

balmy condor
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every bad thing that's happened in recent WoW history can be traced back to BFA and Shadowlands to be fair so I kinda get it

static glacier
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U just cranked the boss

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Nothing else

dreamy rover
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hey now i get it, you do clear the witness during lingering because plague = nature

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COOL

static glacier
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Sub and OL were good thankfully

static glacier
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Akshually its witnesses

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Aoe so more than 1 witness

dreamy rover
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🤓 ☝️

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ermmmm

vital flicker
static glacier
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Removal of snd

dreamy rover
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yo rogues are the greatest

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good night people i try to sleep now

prisma coral
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I kinda hate reddit wow posts but saw one today about rogue feeling dated. And while i have been playing it for decades and fear change, somthing does sort of have to give. like being a blip in overall class representation can't be a healthy thing

rotund oak
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yeah its because its minimal gains for that much effort(as in play the rogue)

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its apparent,we are all braindmged

haughty flicker
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what effort

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(for sin at least)

runic hinge
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Rogue is very fun but then you play ret and it’s like damn. Builder spender kinda crazy over here

rotund oak
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if u think sin has no effort u should see mages my man

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u literally press 3 buttons

dreamy rover
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well you actually have to think playing any rogue spec

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and BM and ret exsit

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anyways im gone

haughty flicker
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idk i havent had an active thought in my head during raid this tier beyond watching whatevers on my second monitor

prisma coral
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fun means a lot of things to a lot of different people but i think "is it fun?" is a hard question for me to answer when people ask

haughty flicker
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not saying its a bad thing for a spec to be simple

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but it do be simple

rotund oak
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im not raiding at all,just some heroic here and there and for the lols when im bored

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but in keys rogue is harder than mage and hunter

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and hpally

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those that im actually testing

golden loom
red schooner
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I'm catching up on shows while sitting on the stix bench garf_sit

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No thoughts only watching wipes on discord

zenith elm
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I just want dinars rn

prisma coral
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i had a lot of fun with sprocket, i expected it to be more intense but i dont think it was prepared for it

haughty flicker
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I offered to play boomkin on stix like a dumbass, I could’ve been free and playing oblivion on the bench

red schooner
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I have a need. A need to bleed.

vital flicker
# zenith elm I just want dinars rn

I just want class tuning, I don't think it is really needed for sin, but goddamn do I want it. class changes are literal dopamine straight to my brain

haughty flicker
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So I volunteered as tribute

red schooner
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Somehow

haughty flicker
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Then we recruited one but he’s somehow losing in bombshell damage to the ret and enhancement shaman so I think I still need to be on chicken duty

zenith elm
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I want JASTOOOR

prisma coral
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have a good night/morning was fun talking

haughty flicker
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I think it’s just cd timings so hopefully on Thursday we step it up and kill

red schooner
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Idk what the other chicken is doing

haughty flicker
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One sec

red schooner
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This is filtered for add damage over 80% hp

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Also frost mage below fire mage HOLY

vital flicker
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on par with the holy priest

bleak sun
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Another week with my 645 pacemaker warbound BleedBuild

haughty flicker
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But this is bombshell damage

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Over last nights pulls

red schooner
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Just the issue is getting them below 80

haughty flicker
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Over 80% looked the same except I think the other balance was above the ret

red schooner
haughty flicker
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Only two ways are build or cd timings

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Either they’re using convoke instead of the 1m trees incarn stuff

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Or they’re just sending cds on cd instead of holding for adds

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Because the gameplay is unironically just pressing starfall 11 times in a row

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With some sunfires sprinkled in

red schooner
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Yeah idk, need to actually look into it. Thankfully I ain't raid leader so I'm just chilling

haughty flicker
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Yeah same I just press my buttons and vibe

real pike
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Anyone know if vaults are safe to open on EU realms

haughty flicker
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Find out for us king

real pike
red schooner
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I'm chilling

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Watching shows, reading a bit, listening to music

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Life is okay garf_sit

bleak sun
#

It is @real pike

#

Opened mine & i didnt get the 3 same loot

jaunty matrix
#

its not guaranteed it will happen to everyone

#

they said a small amount of players will be affected by the vault bug

red schooner
#

Me and the vault are natural enemies, I don't trust it

#

It's plotting

haughty flicker
#

The vault gave me 3 useless myth track items and a heroic house of cards

#

It’s trying to bring me down

real pike
#

I'm so impatient ffs

haughty flicker
#

Trying to make me play sub

#

I refuse

#

I will not be broken

red schooner
subtle karma
#

!up

tall atlas
#

sim says neck do we agree

red schooner
#

Don't let the robot control you

haughty flicker
#

take the shoulders for transmog

red schooner
tall atlas
haughty flicker
#

i need those shoulders still

#

ive lost them in rolls 3 fucking times to people that arent even leather

haughty flicker
#

meanwhile i have a transmog ready and waiting to use them

haughty flicker
#

legit just roll everything off for transmog if nobody needs for upgrade

red schooner
#

Ah fair

#

We have social raid where I have to sit and watch as the worst players get unreasonably lucky on loot rolls

#

There's a shaman who has died to the first set of gally bombs on the last 2 times he's done it

#

It's a boost run practically but I ain't getting paid shit

haughty flicker
#

start charging per death

rustic zealot
#

Guys is normal that the the build with master assassin sims more than Vicious Venom in single target? 🤔

haughty flicker
#

it can yes

red schooner
haughty flicker
#

sims had a bug that overvalued vicious venoms so now depending on your gear either could be better

red schooner
#

They're fucking massive and you have about 10 minutes to slowly waddle out of them

#

Fucker also managed to die on OAB without hitting the boss. At all.

rustic zealot
haughty flicker
red schooner
radiant kettle
#

Is running the hybrid build a large loss in the +10 key range? Whispyr’s guide suggests playing the bleed build but I see on Murlock.io a lot of players are running hybrid. Does hybrid give more prio dam or ST?

kindred timber
#

is vault safe to open now?

radiant kettle
thorny lion
#

Then hybrid but depends on key

#

I would Never Play bleed in Theater for example

radiant kettle
#

Aw I think I understand, bc bleed thrives on big pulls while ToP needs more ST, right?

thorny lion
#

Ye

radiant kettle
#

Thank you.

cold zealot
#

~ How much haste do you need for bleed build (im't at 4%) and cinderbrew neck myth sims way way above anything else. I don't get it.

hoary topaz
#

Ive got 9% and doing pretty good

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
red schooner
#

But yeah bleed build and VV build likes a bit more haste but in general, trust in the Sims and you'll be fine

compact stirrup
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
dense cloud
#

did they fix the renown 20 bug bs?

amber brook
#

For cauldron do we lineup cooldowns for when they clash or just send

red schooner
last skiff
#

does anyone play with the magnetic trinket in raid/m+ ?

#

sim say me to take it but meeeh

fresh blaze
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
#

sin just doesnt sim for shit or? havent looked at it this tier yet

royal lantern
#

wdym

brazen sluice
#

Like HoC send with DM only and other trinket on cd?

strange python
#

just doesnt sim for much i guess sub only 100k ahead

dense cloud
#

Anyone defeated this mythic boss yet? keeps showing up and i cant close it. lmao

royal lantern
#

never ever

#

its idiotic

hidden bay
royal lantern
#

sims are for talent and gear optimisation, not for looking at the result number at the end and compare it with other classes or specs

golden loom
royal lantern
golden loom
#

ty but I got chest from vault

haughty flicker
#

i got cock from vault

subtle tundra
#

hot

hidden bay
#

guess ill pick wrists

hidden bay
#

man i even helped a guildie on his like 630 hunter for a key

#

wheres my good karma????

pliant remnant
#

WoW only rewards bad karma

#

It's like how if you're bottom DPS in raid, you always win the loot roll

haughty flicker
#

i stole your karma

hidden bay
red schooner
hidden bay
#

this is not fair

red schooner
#

Mage with 4.5mil hp in a priory, rip mage kekdog

golden loom
spice surge
# golden loom

Most specs now have custom handling for most trinkets, ie using the stat trinkets with cds and other trinkets outside of em etc

haughty flicker
golden loom
golden loom
haughty flicker
#

i genuinely didnt even know shirts had durability

#

am i paying extra to repair a fucking shirt

royal lantern
red schooner
haughty flicker
red schooner
#

It's the distinguishing feature between pants and a sack

royal lantern
red schooner
#

No longer having to be chicken on stix

tall atlas
#

!race

#

anyone got the race simming script

jade abyss
royal lantern
jade abyss
rotund oak
#

ild hide if i were you

scarlet summit
#

i guess the new Trinkets arent that good mhhh?

spice surge
#

That looks like its not implemented properly if i had to guess, can you link me the sim

scarlet summit
#

Ah sry i Just restarted the PC - i can send it later - round about 30min

brisk forge
#

30 min of restart 🙈

scarlet summit
#

Naaa Take a Break on Home-Office 😏 enjoying the sun 😅

brisk forge
#

😁

subtle tundra
haughty flicker
fallen orbit
#

so guys i have champ HOC and HC peacemaker. i just got signet. but when i look like bloodmalet it shows i should swich signet for peacemaker. is bloodmalet trollin ? 😄

subtle tundra
#

bloodmallet doesnt sim combinations

#

it sims individually

#

so what is the conclusion we draw?

buoyant herald
#

i saw the word sim somewhere

haughty flicker
subtle tundra
#

thats alright i forgive you

haughty flicker
fallen orbit
white kindle
#

Hi all 🙂 how you're doin?
Can someone pls help me. I'm gearing my rogue and the best stats are crit/mastery. however some versa and haste pieces are in the bis-list. i always sim myself but just for my understanding. do we have "breakpoints" on haste/versa, we wanna have still? Thank you alot 🙂

subtle tundra
#

(on use with stats)

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
spice surge
#

It mostly doesnt matter, just get highest ilvl

white kindle
fallen orbit
#

ok so i go signet and peacemaker 😄

#

ty guys

subtle karma
#

!up

gusty mirage
brisk forge
#

Should i trust sim with trinkets when it comes to real action in M+?

cosmic robin
#

Which preset to use for bleed sim?

humble verge
#

i need shoulders, but prio trinket is also enticing

golden loom
#

surely you snaptake priory 100/100 times

humble verge
#

well

#

we are gonna kill bandit today

#

hopefully

red schooner
#

Are the shoulders for catalysing? Cos it's easier to get shoulders than another priory trinket

humble verge
#

im betting on hoc dropping

red schooner
humble verge
golden loom
#

well surely there are classes better suited for HoC

humble verge
#

i have champ hoc

#

💀

golden loom
#

since u can take that kekdog

humble verge
#

but like

#

i have not had shoulders drop at all

#

nor tier or the shoulders from vexie

golden loom
#

they are way way easier to get in the long run tho

royal lantern
red schooner
humble verge
#

got head last vault

red schooner
#

Myth shoulders, several sources

humble verge
#

but also

#

shoulders are simming better

red schooner
#

Wack

golden loom
#

how much better?

humble verge
#

surely not by JUST 200 dps

#

kekw

golden loom
#

personally I think it would be insane to not take priory but u do u

#

also solves any loot drama kekdog

humble verge
#

nah

#

im waiting for raid tonight

#

kekw

golden loom
#

what classes do u have in raid?

#

how many monks etc

balmy condor
#

assa rogue getting hoc would be nothing short of insane

humble verge
#

we have 1 monk

golden loom
#

(while having priory ready to take in vault)

humble verge
#

2 drakes

golden loom
#

(would be lootbanned for ever if I was in LC)

humble verge
#

3 locks kek

royal lantern
#

say its for the Sub Offspec you will totally play

humble verge
#

SURELY THEY WILL GIVE BIS TRINKET TO OFFSPEC

golden loom
#

well if they are willing to give it as a sidegrade

#

why not

balmy condor
#

gl beating fire mage, frost dk, devastation, enhance, windwalker, fury war

#

assa is like

#

8th or 9th in line for a hoc

#

if that

#

like if we're banking on getting loot council'd

#

surely we take the signet from vault

#

and then get tier LC'd

#

infinitely more likely to actually happen

royal lantern
#

cus tier doesnt drop in the first place

balmy condor
#

and house of cards does?

#

what kind of argument is that

humble verge
#

who plays dk in raid

#

well our tank is a dk but thats fine

balmy condor
#

we've seen 3 house of cards

#

across every difficult

#

since the start of the raid

humble verge
#

we've had like

royal lantern
#

our loot this tier is so giga cursed

we saw like 6heroic HoC in total, 1sprocket healer trinket, but then almost 0tier stuff kekman

humble verge
#

9 hocs i believe

inland escarp
#

How is 6 hoc considered cursed?!

golden loom
subtle tundra
#

all im reading is that you guys arent doing enough splits

#

🤨

balmy condor
golden loom
#

hes a gamer

humble verge
balmy condor
#

yeah so is ours

golden loom
#

played UDH so far but got bored of it

spice surge
#

Unholy wants hoc anyways

balmy condor
#

our game is much more difficult without the dk

spice surge
#

So it doesnt really matter

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

he was out today

#

and it was hell

spice surge
#

Also why did logs do a partition for 11.1.5

spice surge
#

When nothing changed

balmy condor
#

helm enchants I guess idk

subtle tundra
golden loom
spice surge
#

Well ye but theres usually changes in a patch

royal lantern
golden loom
#

hes also just a giga pumper so love to see it

subtle tundra
#

fuck my stupid chungus life.

#

☹️

real pike
#

so are we fairly confident vaults are fine for EU?

humble verge
#

wait wtf

subtle tundra
humble verge
#

i cant get the right count cause my HoC is not showing up in LC history

#

sadge

balmy condor
#

wait you already have a hoc

humble verge
#

champ

#

yes

balmy condor
golden loom
humble verge
golden loom
#

rounding error? nooo blue = big dam

balmy condor
#

number up NUMBER UP

subtle tundra
#

i really recommend

golden loom
#

now that is fully understandable

viscid spear
balmy condor
humble verge
golden loom
#

got hero eye in a pug and sold it for 500k garf_sit

royal lantern
subtle tundra
#

just get lucky

#

btw

viscid spear
# humble verge i got hero eye last week kek

I got that Eye as a Warbound from our first Normal Gally kill.
Eye has dropped every time we kill him, including the two times we killed him on Heroic the past two weeks.
I lose every time.

humble verge
#

kek

drifting cloud
#

I mean you raid heroic, its only good on 1 boss for rogue in heroic

#

so no reason to even care about it

viscid spear
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

ryler did you hear

#

its a miracle

golden loom
#

just get this idk whats so hard, fuck the cringe raid trinkets

balmy condor
#

doms extended

#

before week 15

#

insane work by us

spice surge
#

Need hoc mythic for when sub gets buffed

drifting cloud
#

yeah I saw the sprocket pull count

balmy condor
#

oh don't worry the oab pull count is going to be worse

drifting cloud
#

no atrophic diff

viscid spear
humble verge
#

lmao

#

hoc being 1k dps increase than prio trinket

#

ome

drifting cloud
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

WHAT

drifting cloud
#

well it might be non tilt now after the qol fixes

subtle tundra
#

WWWWHAT

royal lantern
humble verge
drifting cloud
#

but just a terrible boss

balmy condor
#

dude people just fucking fall over to random shit 24/7

#

it's actually insane

royal lantern
#

like idk, this raid is just not good on mythic

drifting cloud
#

4 heal? lets go

midnight mist
humble verge
#

nah

#

u dont need to 4 heal the fight

red schooner
#

I'd rather be OAB prog than stix prog, what is life

humble verge
#

you need the dps to kill the adds

#

thats what you need

balmy condor
viscid spear
balmy condor
#

this is ignore after 3 death

midnight mist
balmy condor
#

standing in lines

humble verge
#

kek

drifting cloud
#

why is melee at 23

balmy condor
#

standing in tornados

subtle tundra
royal lantern
balmy condor
spice surge
red schooner
subtle tundra
spice surge
#

Mugzee is a fine boss, pretty banger outside gaols

red schooner
#

I mean I'm barely a mythic raider, RFWL guild lets go

spice surge
#

But goals suck ass so it brings it down a to like fine

drifting cloud
real pike
#

hate it when an ilvl upgrade is actually less damage cause of stat distribution

viscid spear
red schooner
#

Where the prog never fucking ends

cosmic robin
#

Which configs do you guys use for sim?

balmy condor
subtle tundra
balmy condor
subtle tundra
viscid spear
subtle tundra
#

friend

#

mb

balmy condor
#

what are we simmin

spice surge
balmy condor
red schooner
#

Fuck it I ball

viscid spear
balmy condor
#

we're gonna dodge the gold fixates

cosmic robin
balmy condor
#

m+ is dungeonslice yes

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

yeh

subtle tundra
#

we had way too much dam last week anyways

drifting cloud
subtle tundra
#

im also not on oab today

golden loom
drifting cloud
subtle tundra
#

I HAVE 8 DAYS OF GAME TIME

#

AND ALSO WE BOOST

#

SO IM GETTING THAT GOLD
BIACH

balmy condor
#

bad femboys get the boosting prison

drifting cloud
#

but if you keep on boosting youre never going to run out of gametime

balmy condor
#

smh

spice surge
subtle tundra
spice surge
#

Idk i think its kinda strange that melee cant get the tank circle on oab

subtle tundra
#

im buying eghmgm ehmm

drifting cloud
viscid spear
# balmy condor we swapped coin strats

Our RL was on vacation this week, so we didn't have him last night. We killed Vexie, did the skip, one-shot Bandit & Mug'Zee, then got some people AotC.
On a normal week when he is here, we usually wipe to bombs on both Bandit & Mug'Zee until we trim down to almost a 10-man so we can kill Gallywix. He must be livid irl.

subtle tundra
drifting cloud
balmy condor
#

through*

viscid spear
subtle tundra
#

bad calls

balmy condor
#

great players are not automatically great raid leaders

drifting cloud
balmy condor
viscid spear
# subtle tundra bad calls

Who's that one streamer guy that yells all the time? "It's push week" and stuff?
Our RL is so close to that.

balmy condor
viscid spear
#

"WHEN MUG'ZEE SUMMONS THE BOMBS ON EVERYONE JUST MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE AND DON'T TOUCH THEM"

royal lantern
sturdy python
#

Has anyone gotten the Junkmaestro trinket? Are we binding that to a macro (say, shiv for example) it's got this weird 20 sec on use thing and I've just gotten a myth one in vault, trying to gauge if bloodmallet is accurate about it, both sims + bloodmallet suggest it's very nice, but that on-use has me a little sus

viscid spear
#

5 seconds later 💥

balmy condor
viscid spear
buoyant herald
#

got a bit lucky on vexxie tonight :0

sturdy python
balmy condor
#

yes

sturdy python
#

Vid or typing?

#

I'll go dredge it up

balmy condor
#

and in the guide

sturdy python
#

Ooof, mb

#

Tyvm PepeKiss

drifting cloud
#

I bet he didnt even report the interaction

#

but poor outlaws had to suffer!

balmy condor
#

I did actually during PTR garf_sit

#

and I mentioned lingering being a silly goober in 11.0 as well

#

difficult fix I guess

dawn kelp
#

Benched cause I was too late to renown bug gg

balmy condor
#

that's fine, the renown stuff got reverted anyway

golden loom
# royal lantern for me its like first 2 are first 2, kinda w/e rick is a boss that is just ann...

Vexie: Damge amp slaps (duh) but outside of that, fuck the oil and whatever else, annoying
Cauldron: Dino side kinda fun, clash kinda neat, gorilla side less fun and boss seems to be a fiesta more often than not
Rick: Barrels spawning in naria ruin what could be a decent fight, sikran 10x better 3rd boss kekdog
Stix: Awful Awful Awful
Lockenstock: I had a good time so idk I liked it, took us way longer than it should've done tho
OAB: Too early to tell, but I already think the fire tornadoes are giga cringe

balmy condor
#

guildies were losing their bugged effects between bosses like 10 hours ago

golden loom
#

there was some raid renown exploiting?

balmy condor
#

people were logging in and getting insta max renown

drifting cloud
#

ban all the exploiters

viscid spear
drifting cloud
#

logging in with malicious intent

balmy condor
#

true

golden loom
#

omg btw @subtle tundra I forgot that its reset day, that means tier 11 delves!!!!!!!!!

#

theres even a quest now that gives 15 extra gilded crests!!!!!!

drifting cloud
#

(that requires you to do a key)

golden loom
#

as in a mythical dungeon?

royal lantern
jaunty hill
#

Simbot wants me to swap out Seaforium for Mega Magnet on the Same I.Lvl. I mean yeah but no?

obtuse ruin
#

whats the dps difference between momentum of despair and follow the blood?

red schooner
sturdy python
#

interestingly that trinket sims pretty shit, despite what bloodmallet says

scarlet sequoia
#

rly out here using bloodmallet for ur sims

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

which trinket sims shit

sturdy python
#

junkmaestro

balmy condor
#

those look pretty good to me

#

it's simming as your highest?

sturdy python
#

yeah but 0.6% overall increase versus a 1% increase with vault boots instead

balmy condor
#

I mean yeah

subtle tundra
#

i do kinda wanna play warlock/priest but i dont have them leveled at all so i cant be bothered

balmy condor
#

trinkets aren't all that impactful

drifting cloud
#

costs more crests tho

balmy condor
#

what does that have to do with the bloodmallet list

jaunty hill
#

Is the Magnet a simtrap or sim seaforium ass in st?

golden loom
balmy condor
#

what is happening

subtle tundra
sturdy python
#

this suggests to me that magnet is more than 0.6% better than hero track pacemaker

#

a myth magnet

jaunty hill
#

Damn the Magnet might be bettern than I thought it is

balmy condor
#

bloodmallet doesn't sim a second trinket slot