assassination

[warm vortex]

I mean

Have you seen America atm

It appears to be true

[manic sphinx]

Man, i need to sleep soon, so i can wake up and check vault

I'm one of those 0 loot from raid guys, and relying on everything from vault :/

[fallow canopy]

Surely server is up before it is dark

[warm vortex]

I’ve gotten so much funky luck from vault

[fallow canopy]

[warm vortex]

If I had an M+ team I’d be so high rn

But pugs are pugs

And by that I don’t mean their skill I mean their consistency

[rotund oak]

ive tried on my rogue during bfa to push a bit but i didnt like it,we depleted like mad several keys,pushed them back up,depleted again

i didnt like it at all

[warm vortex]

I mean with resilient

It’s not that bad I believe

[rotund oak]

it is worse

than u think

and ive had a month's experience

and i didnt like it

it was the worse part of me in bfa

and i liked bfa

i hated that

[subtle tundra]

i need a prostate exam

[rotund oak]

like literally

or just for stimulation

[subtle tundra]

moaning allowed

[rotund oak]

i guess the later then

😂

[outer sundial]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

I’m disappointed in you

I’d never be pro state

[rapid dust]

Hi rogues, one fast question: Should I drop all my haste to win as much mastery as possible with the bleeds build?

[spice spire]

No

Haste is also good. Pins cover it pretty well

It’s not like super good but good enough to want some

[subtle tundra]

meow

[shy axle]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[tight sparrow]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[viscid spear]

Maintenance still going, huh
I wanna see people's Vaults. I can't open mine for another 6 hours

[nova aspen]

no one can

maint lasts another 6 hours

3pm PST supposedly

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[nova aspen]

[spice spire]

God bless

Make it 19 PST

[coral ibex]

mythic seaforium in my vault today

[subtle tundra]

good luck

[bleak sun]

I hope the same @spice spire

[cosmic sundial]

hey guys, i have a question about envenom, i know you use it before sending cds in single target, but it is required for aoe too ?

[spice surge]

You ideally want envenom up for all of kingsbane yes

[cosmic sundial]

okay thanks !

[spice surge]

But if youre not running kingsbane then obviously you dont need it

[cosmic sundial]

yes ofc :)

[viscid spear]

[warm vortex]

Btw is hybrid far behind or they like on par

[native heron]

are servers still down? Not near my computer

[viral linden]

^

[fallow canopy]

5hrs more of maintenance at least without the everlooming extended maintenance announcement ™️

[native heron]

Thank you. I appreciate you!

[runic hinge]

The maintenance is crazy long

I’m wondering if they’ve learned from their sins and are gonna say it’s really long and have them up early instead of saying it’s short and constant extendo

[fallow canopy]

I wouldn't count on it but hey I'm welcome to be pleasantly surprised

[hidden bay]

how long till NA servers, i want to see some sick vaults

[coral ibex]

6 hours

[hidden bay]

[native heron]

Honestly nothing in this patch sounds remotely fun. Like why the hell would you bring back visions….

That shit gives me PTSD. Lol

[hidden bay]

visions were fun

[fallow canopy]

they were

[rocky zodiac]

For Stix just normal cleave build or CT aoe?

[runic hinge]

depends on if the adds live long enough you can get ct value, if they die before they get near the boss probably not worth but if you can get the cast on them and the boss its good prio

[rocky zodiac]

ok i think i go CT then. absolutely not range in group

[sweet shard]

So what,corruption are we going with? (Sorry if it's updated on wowhead, haven't looked)

[spice surge]

its not coming out for several weeks

[sweet shard]

Oh, ok

[spice surge]

But void ritual, probably gonna get tuned before release

[dreamy rover]

Btw visions arent even coming out today

They have delayed it again

Cool

Company

[gloomy heart]

oh that makes me smile

saving my sanity

[nova aspen]

is the gear catchup thing coming today?

would like to try an alt at some point

[lethal arrow]

Gear catchup comes with visions

(I think, it's supposed to be free heroic gear)

[dreamy rover]

Yhea theres gear rewards in visions, but thats not the gear catch up for the season

[runic hinge]

Some today some later

[vivid mulch]

12 PSF

[dreamy rover]

We get 630 + gear today from hallowfall event

[spice spire]

No big demise

[vivid mulch]

:c

[nova aspen]

ok nice

[spice spire]

Thank christ too

My monk is 630 with 600 ilvl trinkets and 603 pants

[runic hinge]

My ret pally is rising

[spice spire]

Rogue is 667, warrior 665

We go for more

Got 4 portals in that rat last night

[rotund oak]

1 euro says its hybrid

also me love u

[spice spire]

KB not on there makes me thing not

[warm vortex]

Questio

nwhy don't people like the op embelish,ments

cause i think it would be cool to have back

[vivid mulch]

yeah it aint hybrid xd

bleed big boy dmg

[runic hinge]

Pally is 641

[hushed hearth]

heyo, does any1 know how much bone spike contribute to sudden demise?

[warm vortex]

Also does anyone know how to hide icons on a wa that i can't use? Like the rogue one i have rn is showing RTB and multiple vaishes

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[runic hinge]

30 seconds

[mental thistle]

there is any macro to meld + stealth ?

[kindred breach]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[worn geyser]

in the wa load options u can set it to show on specific talent active or spec, which if you select load ‘outlaw’ then it will not load as sin

[night cipher]

do we care about the new Arathi faction "set" ? Neck and stuff

[vivid mulch]

13 Brew

I messed up badly but we still timed

[viscid spear]

Where are the Vaults?

[spice spire]

3 hours queen

[vivid mulch]

what time does maint end for you NA peeps?

[storm forum]

Did they extend maintenance again?

[viscid spear]

Why am I seeing Details then

[acoustic roost]

EU

[vivid mulch]

Im eu c:

[fallow canopy]

3 hours more

[spice spire]

EU exists big dog

[spice spire]

It was 3 PST wasn’t it

[vivid mulch]

Yeah but at what time? :o

[viscid spear]

Idk why you find disgusting, answer the question

[spice spire]

[fallow canopy]

3pm pst

[acoustic roost]

[storm forum]

Oh no I thought it was 3pm EST

[vivid mulch]

ah ok

[spice spire]

We’re cooked king

[gusty mirage]

Well that’s a first

[spice spire]

Except it was always going to be 7 PST for me regardless

[viscid spear]

6pm for the superior timezone.
I get home right after they go back up.

[fallow canopy]

6pm for me as well

[storm forum]

I'm going to milk and cookies the pain away now

[spring stream]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[spice spire]

Gl Lanille and gl on vaults king

[storm forum]

Maybe run another load of laundry

[gusty mirage]

Which king

[viscid spear]

Burger King

[spice spire]

Yes

[keen spruce]

[half dawn]

friends, whats the general stat prio for assa? coming from outlaw gear

[dreamy canyon]

Does anybody know if there’s a way for rogues to get out of the mugzee prisons? I’m starting on the boss tonight

[coral ibex]

grip or velf racial

[dreamy canyon]

Priest grip I’m assuming?

[drifting cloud]

priest grip has like 0.2s margin for error or you just wipe the raid

[spice spire]

Velf

[royal lantern]

well, time for the priest to git gut

[drifting cloud]

if you wanna be velf for the p2 prison thats pretty good but its not required

and it doesnt matter in p1 at all since you stop dmg anyways

[dreamy canyon]

Okay fair enough, so no need to race change then?

[royal lantern]

mate, if you need to ask about stuff, you dont play on a level where it matter the slightest

sounds rude, i know, but its how it is

[drifting cloud]

its not needed no, but just depends how your guild deals with the p2 jails

[dreamy canyon]

Thanks for the info, appreciate you!

[shut hatch]

Hallo Team, is bubbling wax actually worth using or is it meh? I can't sim it to see so might as well ask here.

[spice spire]

Not good

[shut hatch]

Thanking you

[spice spire]

Was used early when whetstones were to the moon with pride

Whetstone best by a bit

[hidden bay]

just go voidelf, racial dmg wise makes no difference across all of em

[royal lantern]

"just pay 20bucks bro"

[hidden bay]

dont be poor

farm some gold

[lyric vale]

kekw

[lethal arrow]

@lyric vale wax is 0.1% DPS better

[royal lantern]

?? no ??

[lethal arrow]

[spice spire]

Why are we gaslighting homies asking real questions

[lethal arrow]

its just plausible enough to sound true

[dapper cradle]

crash by daughtry

banger song from that one bionicle commercial

[warm vortex]

Ok

Playing keys reminds me exactly why i don't play rogue atm

[spice spire]

Why’s that king

[royal lantern]

probs cus its melee

[keen spruce]

Rogue great pug m+ class

Can do so much useful stuff

[spice spire]

It’s true though. Lot of control in the class makes it a decent pugger

[warm vortex]

Stealth

[keen spruce]

Don’t say it

[royal lantern]

eh, to be a good pug class, you need BL

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

Not restealth

Idc about that

[agile osprey]

Chainpulling tanks tho...

[warm vortex]

Just random shit like the ML mines unstealthing you

Chainpulling is good>

[royal lantern]

oh ye, thats a tilter

[warm vortex]

That's why you run double vanish

[keen spruce]

Yeah random stealth breaks super annoying

[warm vortex]

A tank chainpulling badly

Is a good thing to be annoyed abt

[tall jay]

so, I am in desprate need of some gamer friends at the 3am-5am hour, Monday - Friday. Is anyone actually up at that time?

i guess on the NA side

[warm vortex]

Tbh

My breakdowns look correct i think

But tbh i'm just low geared

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

And also to give you an idea of how good the run was

[spice spire]

Needs more Denise

[keen spruce]

Idk what breakdowns are supposed to to look like anymore

[warm vortex]

we had 15 deaths before we killed a single mob in motherlode

[spice spire]

Demise even

[spice spire]

HUH

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-world-of-warcraft-dance-sergio-mendes-magalenha-wow-troll-male-gif-27495535

[keen spruce]

Sudden demised the key

[warm vortex]

Lemmie break it down for you

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

Silly late night with the boys

[spice spire]

Me running my rat 630 monk through 4 myth keys before reset

[runic hinge]

[spice spire]

Quaketwo has 4 keys timed and 1400 io

[sweet shard]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[warm vortex]

But eh we did a theatre and motherlode

Just being jumped on/charged to or focused by a mine and breaking stealth just feels eh

Also melee

Also not pressing envenom as much feels wierd

I'll still gear one though for shits and giggles

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

Until i giggle n shit i guess

[dreamy rover]

do we need lust as rogue?

[keen spruce]

Your group needs lust as a group

[dreamy rover]

ofc

what i mean is

[hidden bay]

where are the vaults guys

share them

[runic hinge]

NA still down

[dreamy rover]

should they give rogue lust

[bronze pike]

quake

[runic hinge]

1.5 hours

[bronze pike]

can i ping u here?

[keen spruce]

Oh probably not

[bronze pike]

for a sin fix

[keen spruce]

Rogue has plenty of other tools

[dreamy rover]

give us lust

[keen spruce]

And is always a competitive class most seasons

Even without it

[dreamy rover]

idk what they should call it "might of the shadowblade"

"the great vanishing"

shmeeps what would you call a rogue bloodlust

[keen spruce]

I wish they’d give tanks lust and healers brez

Uhh

[dreamy rover]

if you had to name the skill

[keen spruce]

Idk adrenaline rush?

[dreamy rover]

approved

great name

[dreamy rover]

this tbh

every tank should have lust and every healer brez

poison bomb pubert

no way

[hardy rapids]

Its me.

[dreamy rover]

insane work dude

[hardy rapids]

I was gonna say a flavorful rogue lust would be a potion

like crimson vial in pvp can be AOE

for all members

[dreamy rover]

nice idea

[keen spruce]

Yeah a potion would be cool but doesn’t really make sense with the rest of the party

I think it would have to be pirate themed

[dreamy rover]

adrenaline injection: injects you and your party members with PURE ADRENALINE giving 30% haste for 30sec

[keen spruce]

Like some kind of rally thingy

[hardy rapids]

a potion could fit with assa and outlaw

[dreamy rover]

true

[keen spruce]

But a potion doest hit your group

[hardy rapids]

everyone drinks a potion :)

[dreamy rover]

@hidden bay blizzard doesnt want to turn on servers so no vault yet

[keen spruce]

Unless it was like a bomb you throw

[dreamy rover]

its supposed to come back in 1hr 30m

[hardy rapids]

You will drink the potion of adrenaline :)

[dreamy rover]

force it down their throats

[lethal arrow]

give rogue lust, a healthstone table where we give out vials, pve smoke bomb, a free use of mobility abilities and free poisons for everyone

[dreamy rover]

you WILL drink the adrenaline potion

[keen spruce]

Or some void themed lust

[dreamy rover]

pve smokebomb is actually pog as fuck

[keen spruce]

Gift of the void or something

[lethal arrow]

yeah thats never coming back

[keen spruce]

Everyone turns purple and gets lust

[hardy rapids]

Does sub use void magic? whats the deal with their shadow flavoring

[lethal arrow]

pve smokebomb was too good

[dreamy rover]

imagine insta LOS with pve smokebomb that would be insane

[keen spruce]

It’s kind of loosely shadow/void

[dreamy rover]

exactly

i'd say more shadowy than voidy

[keen spruce]

Well technically shadow but has a lot of void ish stuff

[warm vortex]

ALSO

If they bring back acro

[hardy rapids]

yeah, no way a non magical rogue is summoning shadowclones of themself

[warm vortex]

I'd wanna play this spec agian

fuck blizzard for removing acro

Idk why they did

[hardy rapids]

I just miss acro from all rogue specs

big ass arms

[lethal arrow]

removing 5 yards from all melee was evil

[keen spruce]

Wacky waving inflatable arm rogue was fun

[dreamy rover]

subtlety = shadow darkness guy
outlaw = pirate aggressive gambling crazy guy
assassination = poison bleed dot guy

[keen spruce]

But it wasn’t too bad getting used to stubs again last season

[lethal arrow]

really like having to hit the stupid ass candle boss from inside his ass

[dreamy rover]

so damage types are

[keen spruce]

Outlaw lust could be gamba related I guess too.

[dreamy rover]

shadow
physical
nature

respectively

but sin also physical w/ bleeds

[hardy rapids]

Sub theme and flavor are so cool but holy fuck I cant stand not doing anything outside of cds

[dreamy rover]

idk

[lethal arrow]

what u dont like pressing backstab every 6 gcds?

[hardy rapids]

NO

[warm vortex]

Btw

any way to check high pull counts in warcraft logs

i wanna see some high wipes

[lethal arrow]

yeah i gotchu

look up elitists queen ansurek

https://progstats.io/details/us/tichondrius/453684-Elitists/all/38-nerubar-palace

[warm vortex]

That isn't that bad

This

is what a bad quene looks liek

[lethal arrow]

they disbanded shortly after without killing it

(GM also took 8m out of the guild bank and dipped)

[coral ibex]

NA servers up

[lethal arrow]

ur a hero

[runic hinge]

Nooo

I’m omw to work

How tragic

[dreamy rover]

FUCK EYUSESE

FUCK YSED

[dreamy rover]

1k pulls extremely kek

[coral ibex]

fug

[dreamy rover]

give me 1 sec i send mine

[coral ibex]

time to sim 2m variations for my gv

[dreamy rover]

kek

kezan or belt

i already have a myth belt

hm

[dreamy rover]

@hidden bay here you go

[hidden bay]

eye

[dreamy rover]

this is fine

might be a 100% kezan angle

[hidden bay]

best drop for me would be mythic sprocket cloak

so i can spend crests for something else

[hardy rapids]

they gave me rat ankle and wombat testicles

[lavish wing]

Mythic signet, hc jastor or hoc pls pls pls

[warm vortex]

This one also stings to see

[blazing kayak]

i need HEP

is there any chance we take off our circlet as sin rogues in pve?

and also the jastor diamond

[hidden bay]

yes

[buoyant herald]

yeah, when sims say something else you have is better

[buoyant herald]

jastor will be one of those

[hidden bay]

take funhouse lense cuz it has fun in name

[buoyant herald]

nah take the amulet for the flavour text

[strange python]

lol

[blazing kayak]

because this is in my vault so im hella debating what to do now...

[indigo sphinx]

You can sim it, but considering bis sim is with jastor + circlet unlikely that is going to replace your circlet

[coral ibex]

robot says this is my best pick

[timber meadow]

is plater fucked for anyone else? didn't see an update available

[coral ibex]

literal stat sidegrade

[coral ibex]

yea, alpha version seems to be working

hopefully they push it to main soon

[timber meadow]

you can just grab this from their github?

[coral ibex]

probably didn't expect servers to be up 2+ hours early tbh

[timber meadow]

yeah thats fair

[coral ibex]

on curse you open up the plater page and there should be a slider orb

to enable alpha versions

like when you look at the version history

[gloomy heart]

ofc my mage gets jastor diamond

[restive falcon]

i got eye of kezan finally, i can replace pacemaker for bandit prog now

[timber meadow]

sounds good

[coral ibex]

oh its already pushed to main

[timber meadow]

still some errors it seems

[gloomy heart]

why couldnt my rog get this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192574852968747112/1364345910649163917/image.png?ex=680955a5&is=68080425&hm=c67b10a884c0ed7a7aa55ffd4ebac10a1b59c1081b2826bcd760dbef36a25d83&

mage vault

[low thicket]

plater already fixed

[timber meadow]

yours fine even at training dummies? mine was fine walking around dorn until i got close to training dummies

[shell kraken]

Question: I migth be on giga-bomb duty on Gallywix tomorrow - while carrying the bomb, is it safe to cloak to immune dmg or will I "drop the bomb"?
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=469362/charged-giga-bomb

[stable cove]

are we able to get another 3% in raid this week or nahj

[hallow glade]

any clue why evnenom and rupture are on the cd manager? they dont seem to do anything

[low thicket]

no 3% this week

[lusty surge]

anyone else's right click just randomly not working

[sick bramble]

I think I heard it's OPIE addon or another that's causing the issue

[lusty surge]

thx ill try that

[late niche]

First vault on my rat, myth track weapon acquired

[lusty surge]

ya it was Opie

[neat goblet]

why are the assa rogue sims so inaccurate?

[scarlet orbit]

What do you mean with that?

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/he-doesnt-know-what-hes-talking-about-james-engvid-he-knows-nothing-hes-ignorant-gif-24544026

[neat goblet]

well, enlighten me then

[normal mist]

What kind of information am i supposed to take by that image

instead of a image, send a link

[neat goblet]

that 1.3m is about 400k lower than the actual dps youre doing, its the same for raidbuilds

[normal mist]

m+ sims.... accurate...

[scarlet orbit]

You do realize that you also in m+ have some raid buffs also bosses being longer in execute etc matters

[normal mist]

I mean people simming 2.5 and then finishing runs with 5M yeah, M+ sims were never designed like taht

[scarlet orbit]

Pretty sure thats a singletargtet sim with m+ build but hard to tell without the sim

[neat goblet]

thats a patchwerk 5 minute sim, huh?

[normal mist]

what is

just send the link

[scarlet orbit]

Yes again do you have some raid buffs in a real m+ boss? Does the boss lasts exactlly as long as the sim and so much other stuff what can influenze dmg

Sims are great to compare gear and thats what they are mainly used for.

[neat goblet]

mea culpa, might actually be the case that raidbots didnt take any buffs into account

I didnt even think about checking that, because I never touched that

its was actually my unbuffed dps, my bad guys, thanks for the hint

[normal mist]

Tbf we don't do good ST dps in m+

[neat goblet]

yeah, but I was always wondering why it has been THAT low, I do not remember turning off every single buff, cause why would I

[shell kraken]

Bump. Anyone?

[twilit jacinth]

If i have just one charge of shiv, and i use deathmatk and kingsbane, do i hold shiv for the last 8 sec. Of kingsbane or do i press it at the beginning of the burst window?

[analog field]

last 8

[red schooner]

finally

now watch me get myth track one in vault tomorrow

[royal lantern]

yes you use it at the last 8 sec

[balmy condor]

I wasn’t in on sprocket

[twilit jacinth]

Thx!

[royal lantern]

tbh, playing sprocket as melee dps is not that different anyway

[red schooner]

Also Tryan, I've been spared from boomkin duty, I'm clean again

I'm safe

[fallow canopy]

another comcast L?

[red schooner]

They found somebody who actually knew how to boomkin

[royal lantern]

most exciting part is the "use gateshard during the knockback"

[royal lantern]

[red schooner]

Thank you to the other person who took the role of third chicken

God bless

[royal lantern]

probably more a "too many melee dps" thing

[balmy condor]

Was a Comcast L yes

[spice spire]

[timber meadow]

anyone know how to move the new cooldown management hud they added?

[pure bridge]

It probably isn't checked off in your advanced options in edit mode.

[hidden bay]

raid today?

[balmy condor]

Si

[hidden bay]

how long till stream

[balmy condor]

Will try and start up earlier for drop farming but not sure

[daring glen]

did they add dinars this patch?

[spice surge]

Not yet

[daring glen]

is it this week atleast?

[spice surge]

No

SoonTM

All theyve said is that they havent forgotten about it but have no details to share just yet

AKA not in the near future

[daring glen]

i heard somewhere that its supposed to be this reset

is this new patch just completely useless or what?

[iron vapor]

there's the cooldown manager that definitely won't just be worse than a WA

[daring glen]

that thing just looks comepletely pointless

[worthy rose]

Damn what are the chances

[iron vapor]

eh, for someone new to the game it's useful - one fewer addon

[worthy rose]

My great vault luck has been great

Both signet and seaforium myth track now

With some random 678 dagger

[iron vapor]

happy for you.

[worthy rose]

Super based

[iron vapor]

honestly. no resentment at all.

[worthy rose]

Both bis trinkets

😂 my friends all lost their minds when I showed them

[uneven plume]

God damn this vault bug

[hidden bay]

this looks like my vault tomorrow

[balmy condor]

Which one you taking

[night cipher]

Take trinkets for Transmog Catalyst xD

[tepid meadow]

are we using corruptions gang

[balmy condor]

Wdym are we

[red schooner]

Nah I'm pure

[balmy condor]

It’s a helm enchant, legit free damage

[red schooner]

Uncorrupted

[balmy condor]

Not that it’s out yet

But ya know

[tepid meadow]

i literally need things drip fed to me

[balmy condor]

Then do the content when it’s unlocked in ~5 weeks

[red schooner]

It's a weird patch, launch but have half of it only available in 5 weeks

[waxen oyster]

It seems weirdly like

[polar rampart]

i'm torn between taking 85 year tenure ring or wrists mast/haste wrists

[waxen oyster]

they're trying to do the amirdrassil helm enchants

another way

if its like 2-3% damage

[haughty flicker]

im just impressed with how much shit they've broken again

[gilded oasis]

[waxen oyster]

havent seen yet

[polar rampart]

thats why they dont release real content with it

[waxen oyster]

i have this thing called a job

[haughty flicker]

20 years of code held together by nothing but silly putty

[waxen oyster]

[rotund oak]

thats to be expected

its blizzard ya know

[polar rampart]

now til then is fix stuff

[modest apex]

do we open vault as outlaw loot spec when we got myth dagger already?

[balmy condor]

Sure

[waxen oyster]

Idk how people are doing content on tuesday resets

unless most wow players are wfh

or unemployed uni students

[balmy condor]

You’d just get one handed weapons then

[haughty flicker]

im just going off of wowhead articles at this point

[balmy condor]

But yeah go for it

[red schooner]

Every bug can only be fixed by sacrificing a member of the qa team to the eldritch gods at this point

That's how deep in we are

[haughty flicker]

i logged in for vault and found out opie makes my mouse clicks just stop working

and logged off

[waxen oyster]

You think rogue has a qa team?

Probably one summer intern

[polar rampart]

they arleady all gone

[waxen oyster]

at best

[red schooner]

They'll move onto the interns

[waxen oyster]

Or hell

Just slide the janitor a 5% payraise

to spend 30 minutes every patch

on rogue

[hidden bay]

[polar rampart]

killing spree sounds good to me, ship it

[waxen oyster]

that isnt a rogue

[viscid spear]

So how are they handling this?

[hidden bay]

dont open your vaults guys

i mean, i would like to see some vaults

but you may run into this

[waxen oyster]

wait are these real

not shopped

[balmy condor]

Yes

[hidden bay]

yes dude

[polar rampart]

yeah

[hidden bay]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/great-vault-may-contain-repeated-rewards-in-patch-11-1-5-april-22nd-376486

[haughty flicker]

yeah this is a great patch

[red schooner]

The content was the bugs we found along the way

[waxen oyster]

You guys don't understand

blizz is a small indie dev

they dont have resources

[polar rampart]

it's hard to make a working video game bruh

[haughty flicker]

end of worldsoul saga needs to be bahamut nuking the game so they can remake it without 20 years of tech debt

[hidden bay]

you guys can find bugs so EU gets up smooth

[fallow canopy]

front page of wowhead is basically "bug this bug that"

[red schooner]

The £60 longboi money is being put to good use

[polar rampart]

they will milk it as is til the money dries up :p

[viscid spear]

• Oblivion Remaster
• Still has all the bugs
• to celebrate, Blizzard added bugs to WoW this week
  

[hidden bay]

[red schooner]

Wait is the oblivion remaster buggy as shit?

[polar rampart]

intended

[red schooner]

Not looked into it

[viscid spear]

So I've heard

[haughty flicker]

its a bethesda game

of course its buggy as shit

[red schooner]

I saw it launched, saw the £50 price tag, went nah

[haughty flicker]

i bought it immediately

[red schooner]

Gonna be great when I nab it for £15 in a sale in a few years

[haughty flicker]

i dont even care that im being scammed and my nostalgia is being used as weapon against me

oblivion is the goat

[viscid spear]

Also the skip to Bandit is currently missing

[mighty vine]

If you cant play it on Ultra, it honestly doesnt look that great

[red schooner]

Same with cyberpunk, but 3 years post launch for a fraction of the price with big fixes

[red schooner]

Yeah apparently they removed it

For some reason

[drowsy hollow]

probably cause it was added after PTR went up and they didn't roll that hotfix into the patch

[haughty flicker]

yeah nowadays its better to buy new games a year later because companies have realized they can get away with selling unfinished garbage and people will excuse it

[viscid spear]

Unintended I think

[haughty flicker]

i say now but its been like this for years at this point

[polar rampart]

do i take bracers over ring since we will eventually get a dinar?

[haughty flicker]

i mean the announcement might be we dont get dinar for another 5 weeks lmao

[red schooner]

TBF I'm also a cheapskate who is paranoid about spending money so I just... Wait.

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I was pissed they didn't have the giant robot chase in RE4 Remake.

[red schooner]

Gaben shall provide

[kindred timber]

did vault bug gonna fix for EU or we must wait

[polar rampart]

5 weeks isnt that long :x

[viscid spear]

I want to open mine now

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/it-forever-liza-miller-younger-eternal-for-the-rest-of-your-life-gif-21230341

[hidden bay]

just do it

[viscid spear]

I don't want two Darkflame trinkets and a cloak

[red schooner]

Ye,best case scenario you get good things, worst case we get a screenshot to at

[hidden bay]

do it for the homies

[red schooner]

Ye, we desire content

[kindred timber]

i dont want 3 head and wrist

[red schooner]

Also there's like 5 people here waiting for a vault screenshot so they can immediately reply "SIM it"

[kindred timber]

after 5 week still no house of cart and if get bugged iam out

and coocked

[red schooner]

Are you gonna deprive them of that?

[viscid spear]

[polar rampart]

you'll get 3 HOC if you open now

[kindred timber]

damn

[viscid spear]

I don't want HoC

[red schooner]

More house of cards than we got patch note lines goddamn

[haughty flicker]

i got 3 useless myth track items and a heroic hoc in my vault

so i might just take hoc instead of socket

for sub

[red schooner]

Correction: you got a socket in your vault

[viscid spear]

I'm doing it!

[red schooner]

Getting my armed and ready

[viscid spear]

Probably taking the chest and converting

[runic hinge]

Assa gets painful for downtime and you wanna subject yourself to sub?

[red schooner]

Hell yeah

[viscid spear]

Everything else is already 6/6 Hero, the trinket is garbo, and the neck has poor stats compared to what I already have.

[hidden bay]

🙏

[viscid spear]

Now to hope for Jastor or Eye in raid

[hidden bay]

theres only 4 items left for me to get from mythic on base ilvl to be an actual upgrade

any of this and i am happy

[viscid spear]

Wha-bam

[runic hinge]

Enchant it

[viscid spear]

[runic hinge]

Proud of you

[viscid spear]

[worthy rose]

Gratz

[viscid spear]

Trying to get a dagger crafted

[waxen oyster]

reminder

[worthy rose]

The everforged stabber?

Yea one of the most important things to craft

[waxen oyster]

Craft everforged dagger

[viscid spear]

I was going to craft the Stiletto

Everforged would be better?

[spice surge]

Yes stiletto is awful

[true tapir]

hey do we know if sanguine blades double procs venomous wounds??

it sorta feels like it does?

[spice surge]

It does not

[proud pelican]

Ty for reminder

[viscid spear]

So bracer/belt with Dawnthread/Writhing would be better for embelishs?

[hidden bay]

you should prolly sim

but no. ascension and darkmoon bla bla is better

[spice surge]

Droptimizer is gonna tell you stiletto is good because its dumb and doesnt know that it counts as an embellishment

[pastel roost]

Silly droptimizer

[hidden bay]

why the fuck did Whispyr not fix it yet????

[haughty flicker]

also make sure you craft agi version and not int

[barren yarrow]

so bleed build seems good still

[viscid spear]

What slots should I sim for those?

[waxen oyster]

ascension is weapon only

[hidden bay]

dagger and second based on what items you have

[waxen oyster]

cloak/bracers/boots/belt are the usual armor patch candidates

[viscid spear]

Oh so Everforged with Ascension?

[waxen oyster]

that most people use

[hidden bay]

yea

[viscid spear]

Ah, there it is.

[hidden bay]

if you play mainly mythic+, maybe dawnthread twice could sim better

[viscid spear]

Where's the Darkmoon one?

[waxen oyster]

i thought m+ liked weapon grip

[buoyant herald]

double dawn or dusk or blessed weapon wrap are all fine for m+

[barren yarrow]

sooo bleed build still?

[buoyant herald]

any combo of those

[viscid spear]

What's the other one?

[viscid spear]

Oh yeah, duh. Your post made it seem like I should sim for another Darkmoon sigil

[hidden bay]

oh yea, for mythic+

[austere bramble]

Anyone else have faded champion ring sim the best for them?

[hidden bay]

but then again, only like if you play it mainly

[viscid spear]

Dawnthread for M+?

[hidden bay]

if it sims higher why not

[west crown]

Is it against the rules to spread exploits here?

[viscid spear]

Oh, I didn't include it in that sim

I only had Writhing on belt/boot/bracer

But Ascension is a must, right? Then it's just a matter of choosing between Writhing and Dawnthread?

[vapid parcel]

anyone else's bars / WAs showing multiple timers overlayed?

[vapid gorge]

so wowhead shows bleed build as best talents but archon is showing a hybrid?

[hidden bay]

raidwise you will play ascension and writhing

anything else is a sim angle

[viscid spear]

M+ Ascension & Dawnthread? Or Writhing & Dawnthread?

[kindred timber]

guys shoudl you stay above 50% energy on single target too?( bleed build)

[timber meadow]

https://addons.wago.io/addons/cooldownmanagercustomizer found this addon that allows you to customize the cooldown manager they added this patch if anyone is curious to test it out

[worthy rose]

You might have to sim it

But I recall double dawn being the best

Assuming you have two 678 myth daggers

[zenith tree]

Nobody in my retail guild can log in

[worthy rose]

I’m running ascension + dawn at the moment

[proud pelican]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[viscid spear]

Unless I get super lucky in future Vaults or I somehow can down Mythic Rik, I'm certain I'll be stuck with what I have for a while

[worthy rose]

Yeah I think you could consider running ascension on weapon and a writhing with it

Or just one ascension one dawnthread

[zenith smelt]

Does annyone have a mouseover kick macro?

[worthy rose]

Difference is not gigantic but you may need to sim

Coz dawnthresd also relies on your healer being good to give u the effect 😂

And also avoiding a lot of random damage

[worthy rose]

If ur creating two daggers you can have one with ascendance and one without so you can swap to a 678 vault drop dagger like I did eventually

Statistically you should be able to see a 678 dagger drop in vault eventually during the season

[viscid spear]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[autumn frost]

Do I take the ring or do I take socket and wait to use dinars

[vapid gorge]

so are we still rocking bleed build or is the archon build better?

[normal mist]

Whatever you want

There were no rogue changes so bleed is as strong as it was last week

[haughty flicker]

is it as strong as it was two weeks ago though

[normal mist]

[haughty flicker]

as an actual answer the FI build you see on archon has contention about whether its actually worth running or not

and even one of the people running it has said to definitely not use it in anything but very high keys

[normal mist]

aka 17+ right?

[haughty flicker]

so bleed or the normal hybrid build on wowhead are kind of your choices

[normal mist]

or something around those key levels

[haughty flicker]

ye

[vapid gorge]

that makes sense. Im guessing the health pool is so high at 15+ it makes sudden demise not worth

[haughty flicker]

15s are low keys in this context

[normal mist]

lol

[hidden bay]

frfrfr

[haughty flicker]

people have posted some nutty sudden demise numbers in 14s-15s still

[worthy rose]

What’s the easiest dungeons to 13 if I’m pushing for 3k

As an assassination rogue

I’m guessing priory dfc and rookery?

Bleed build probably

[buoyant herald]

dfc, workshop, rook yeah

[worthy rose]

Oh mechagon u say

Interesting

[buoyant herald]

i find it easy

[worthy rose]

Priory has mad aoe

Mechagon I can kinda see it too

Big aoe

I’m at all 12’s atm

2950

[buoyant herald]

definitely rook and dfc

[worthy rose]

Prob need 3 really good 13 times

Or 4 13’s

[scarlet sequoia]

did any of u noobs see 3x same thing in vault

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814238610819383346/1364378476630769754/GpKzSNCWMAAcSci.png?ex=680973f9&is=68082279&hm=9da563f65d2ab14f96cba165d0a9e4f2d87195beb2e9d4f38eb1b1090adec0c6&

like this

[buoyant herald]

it's a known issue

[pliant remnant]

yeah

noob

[deep gyro]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[buoyant herald]

a mate of mine had 2 x same wrists

the chances of 3 of the same thing are insanely low

[worthy rose]

Low but never zero Apparbelty

I got a signet the week before then a shadowskeean 678 dagger then today I got a seaforium

All mythics

Pretty based

But I have no gilded this week to craft my cape

[scarlet sequoia]

never seen any1 spell apparently so rouhng

[coral ibex]

apparbelty rouhng

[worthy rose]

Apprbanyly

[coral ibex]

finally...

[worthy rose]

Damn I’m jealous

Fk it takes 4 13’s

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[coral ibex]

dfc/brew/flood/work are all free on 13 i think

[worthy rose]

Ok bet

Bleed build right

[coral ibex]

yea

[worthy rose]

Coz those are all mad aoe I think

Also depends if tank lets you stealth to do the insane bleed spread opener

I met many racist tanks so far

Racist to rogues

[fallow canopy]

grats king

[midnight scroll]

does anyone else find themselves severely energy starved at times on fights like gallywix?

[tall atlas]

What is this archon build I’m hearing g /w’s of

[stable cove]

is the arterial precision radius as wide as caustic? asking for mythic cauldron

[frigid pilot]

so we all swapping to cooldown manager right?

[pliant remnant]

Yes

Every single one of us

[frigid pilot]

u 1st

[buoyant herald]

people pushing the highest keys need more boss damage than bleed can manage, but the cost is some aoe, it's not recommended unless you actually NEED that boss damage to beat the boss

[stable pasture]

i did like 1.4m to swampface on a 16 in bleed build

i feel like thats ass dam

[buoyant herald]

sounds about right

we're talking like NEED need i.e. with lower boss damage you'll literally run out of cds / healer runs out of mana and you wipe

not "ooo i'm helping" levels of boss damage in your weekly 10

but to be fair everyone should understand that the top key pushers will often be using different builds due to unique requirements at those key levels, not because it's "best" and they know something you (and guidewriters) don't

[viscid spear]

They fix the Bandit skip?

[amber brook]

Anyone tried the CD tracker?

[hidden bay]

yes

This has been fixed, however players now need to click the "We've handled tougher" choice in order for the High Roller Suite option to appear.

[viscid spear]

Good, we're about to start

Though some of the team is on a cruise

One of which is the RL, so I'm not sure how this week will go

Might have to pug to reclear on the weekend or something

[gloomy heart]

i did the tw quest

W

[stable cove]

uhhhh

is envenom ttk rfresh buged rn

with poison bomb

sometimes it max refreshes both envenoms

or am i trippin

[spice surge]

It pandemics the lowest duration of your two buffs

[viscid spear]

I just want to down Gallywix again, since he's the only one that has loot I want.
But this group is very suspect

[cinder geode]

What haste do yall play at ? I'm at 15% haste but haste mast is simming quite a bit higher than crit mast for me atm

[worthy rose]

Yolo pray for dinars

[manic sphinx]

Hmmm, heroic Jastor Diamond in vault 😮

[buoyant herald]

don't sim stat weights, sim top gear

[novel star]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[viscid spear]

When is that again?

[winged sun]

big pump or?!?!?

i died 4 times cuz i ate a big ass kfc meal before the run and didnt know we'd do m+

could've ended 6.5m-7m

[cinder geode]

I'm not simming stat weights I simmed the crafted gear with crit mast vs haste mast

[unborn wharf]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[stable cove]

on first boss mythic - do u have to press a button when u have oil or u just run over the bike?

[tall atlas]

Run over

[tall atlas]

You got a log of this

[jaunty sky]

[winged sun]

idk

i dont log my keys

i think my friends do

will see

[manic sphinx]

Niceeee, what build you playing?

[quick pumice]

you think they're gonna ban people doing the rep exploit?

[tall atlas]

Ye same

Just wanna see your decisions n cd usage n stuff

[sour marten]

is it safe already to open vault?

[winged sun]

u do need the log?

i can ask if u rly need

[winged sun]

i dont recommend this hybrid build in low keys btw

[tall atlas]

I mean it’s not a necessity

[winged sun]

just play bleed build

for low keys

[tall atlas]

Just like to see it

[winged sun]

im just playing this cuz i need funnel and more burst

[manic sphinx]

what do you define as low keys now? I was trying a 12, and a monster lock and shammy joined. Normally I do hybrid in 12s, and bleeds in 10s. And I just couldnt do any dmg whatsoever in that 12, lol

[winged sun]

bleed is good in 12s

[manic sphinx]

ok ty

[gloomy heart]

why maghar

i saw u as it

[winged sun]

u can play hybrid np

i like hybrid more personally

[manic sphinx]

yep, thx

[winged sun]

bleed does alot tho so its up to you

i dont do +10s

and +12s

so

[jaunty sky]

I assume it depends on what ppl do with it

[charred mango]

can someone check out this H one armed bandit log rq and let me know what im doing wrong? first raid night after swapping to assa from sub https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gP1FhpkQ74bqTmR8?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=19

[viscid spear]

Yeah, saw there was no date yet

On Gallywix right now though, let's see

[manic sphinx]

fair 🥲

[nova kelp]

bleeds good in high keys too, both builds are good, please stop this dumb stuff

[viscid spear]

So far Bandit and Mug'Zee have dropped crap

[jaunty sky]

I don't do mythic raid, all i "need" rn is the very rare cloak from hc and that's it

Would love to actually get the dinars

[flat leaf]

Dumb question, but whats different between the bleed and hybrid? Im just curious i know both of them are Viable

[winged sun]

[jaunty sky]

Or at least know what they're planning with them

[winged sun]

bleed build in +18s

thats mega cope

[nova kelp]

stop dude, it's embarrassing

[winged sun]

what key levels are u doing

im curious

[nova kelp]

that's more embarrassing

[winged sun]

because u legit lose 2 mins worth of time by going subterfuge in priory its that bad

ur just completely clueless

its crazy

[quick pumice]

a bunch of people in my guild accidentally proc'd it by logging in to alts

[winged sun]

idk why im even arguing with someone who doesnt play keys

literal argue with a wall

[quick pumice]

so like 75% of my guild has renown 20/20 now

[manic sphinx]

One focuses on bleeds, the other focuses on Envenom. In lower keys, i find i can't do my ramps enough for envenem caustic to really do dmg, so bigger bleeds with sudden demise killing stuff, is kinda fun. That's my lowbie explanation

[winged sun]

is it because they have alot of alts?

or why?

[viscid spear]

Eye, Jastor, and Pacemaker are all I need.

[nova kelp]

it's just slight shifts in what you prioritise, bleed has some benefits in huge aoe, and single target
but hybrid has slight benefits if you need more sections of burst or low target funnel

some people will argue this to the ends of the earth but numbers are numbers

bleed is arguably chiller, because you don't have to worry about desynching and such, but realistically that's not an issue at all if you're playing at a decent level

[flat leaf]

Is it worth to take internal bleeding over caustic spatter or no? I apologize for asking bunch of questions. Appreciate the help

[nova kelp]

anyone suggesting that either is a bad option, regardless as to their level of play is either trolling, or stupid

[gleaming bough]

Is it possible when simming to pick multiple stat priorities for crafted gear?

[manic sphinx]

No, I think you still need caustic

[silk sundial]

What's the rep exploit?

[nova kelp]

well... or they're comparing us to unhDK lol

[quick pumice]

sry was in a pull

yea so

log into an alt that you haven't played in s2

[flat leaf]

Word. Thank you

[quick pumice]

and it will give u max gelagio rep

[nova kelp]

internal bleeding is PURELY for single target

[jaunty sky]

Yeah just click recraft to other stats

And then have both selected

[silk sundial]

I do have a lv 80 warlock I haven't logged into this season

[flat leaf]

Would it hurt your aoe to much to take it for a little more ST?

[nova kelp]

it would SIGNIFICANTLY hurt your aoe for a VERY MINOR minor st gain

[quick pumice]

first one got me to rep 17, second one i logged into got me to rep 20

[flat leaf]

Notes. Thank you

[vivid lodge]

M+ pulls with around 10 mobs do you guys put rapture + garrote on all targets (bleed build) before you start with the rest of the rotation? Espically when its the first pull with bloodlust and all cds poping around?

[jaunty sky]

I should grab an eye to try it out in m+ at least once

[haughty flicker]

do not drop spatter for ib

lmao

[nova kelp]

general idea, is if it's not a PUUUUUUUUUUURE st situation you always take spatter, eg even cauldron is a spatter situation just because of the phases where they stand next to eachother

[jaunty sky]

Even tho i dropped crit everywhere bc pacemaker gves so much

[winged sun]

i have to log on it like

as first char?

or doesnt matter?

cuz like idk what to do on that alt like

do i go to a raid or

just login and i get 20?

[quick pumice]

just log in

[winged sun]

has to be lvl 80?

[quick pumice]

think some guys were 70

[thorny lion]

can be 60 or 70 also

[winged sun]

oh rly

insane

then how are u guys saying

75% of ur guild had it

[thorny lion]

but i guess they fixed it already

[winged sun]

25% dont have alts

or what

oh

no way

aintnoway EU is fucked or?

[viscid spear]

[thorny lion]

some guys saiud they didnt get anything

so i guess its fixed

[nova kelp]

they're in the middle of fixing it already

[winged sun]

thhat would be SO sad if only NA players have it

should just give to everyooone at this point

[quick pumice]

some people didn't wanna cheat so not everyoen did it

[nova kelp]

I'd be concerned about people getting pinged in some way for it at this stage

[quick pumice]

we think it has to be on a character that you haven't logged into in s2 yet

[winged sun]

well

6% dmg buff vs 18%

[lethal arrow]

nice knowing everyone

[winged sun]

is ALOT

because

you legit get

to kill last 2 bosses

within 1 week of prog

[quick pumice]

u also get that spicy buff

[lethal arrow]

blizzard has chosen me to die

[winged sun]

cuz 18% is ALOT of dmg

and healing too

[quick pumice]

which does a lot

[winged sun]

legit craziness

[winged sun]

WAHT IS THAT

??????????????????

[quick pumice]

from the track as well

[winged sun]

rly

renown?!?!?

[haughty flicker]

its from like rank 10 or something yeah

[winged sun]

ok

ngl

[haughty flicker]

i definitely wouldnt have accepted the quests

lmao

[winged sun]

blizzard is amazing for adding those buffs

[manic sphinx]

Oh, this is scuffed

[sonic schooner]

zero stop cooking in assa channel

now

[haughty flicker]

but its blizzard so probably nothing will happen anyway

[winged sun]

like

im so glad

they are adding so many powers

for reclears

so good

no cap

[oak eagle]

is it still more damage to hold a shiv for the first DN after Deathmark?

[winged sun]

legit

[sonic schooner]

during lingering yea, the "dry shiv" is still a thing

[oak eagle]

okay cool

wanted to make sure

been a bit since i played this spec wanted to make sure nothing changed on me

i was forced to sub prison by my guild

[nova kelp]

bout the only things that changed was ambush got gooder, execute damage got a lot gooder
and bleed is now also big good in keys

[oak eagle]

raid build didnt change at all, right? since the VV buffs?

[nova kelp]

I disagree with the representation of sub being a prison, sub is a good spec

[oak eagle]

i just dont like Sub much

thats why it was prison

[nova kelp]

lol

[oak eagle]

and the fact that for the most of it

i was still using a transmitter

[nova kelp]

raid builds haven't changed from what's in the pins, which should still be largely similar to the VV build if you were present for that
about the only thing that's altered is the gaps between each version of ma or vv builds

they sorta wax and wane depending on your gear

[oak eagle]

ok so its just a sim thing

got it

[nova kelp]

there's the reintroduction of FB sin for PURE single target bosses only
but like
fuck Fatebound