assassination

[runic hinge]

Got it

[vale lantern]

i play what we need at this point 😦

[vital flicker]

not to mention that OH weapon dps is basically non-existent

[balmy condor]

well yeh

[visual sun]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[balmy condor]

that's melee attack damage right there

big value

[vale lantern]

warlock gamer for the sprocket and one armed

[oak musk]

I'm having a lot of fun with the bleed build

[idle vine]

alr, ig I'll go bracers boots or waist then. I would prolly usually craft bracers/belt with crit/mast since my current ones have haste, but did I read now haste is wanted for bleed build?

[balmy condor]

more wanted than typical m+ builds yes

[vital flicker]

I just want to be wanted like the bleed build wants haste

[runic hinge]

You can add crafted gear in top gear now and see what your biggest upgrade is and check which stats you want

[idle vine]

Is there a way to make raidbots only pick one item? Cause if I compare waist boots and bracers for a craft with differing stats, it'll ofc say the top gear is to have all of them at 675 lol

[balmy condor]

it takes your crests into account

[runic hinge]

Can set your sparks to 1 as well

[balmy condor]

can't craft it cause the sim doesn't have 60 crests

[idle vine]

oh cool thx

are there any video guides of bleed build?

or still too fresh

[buoyant herald]

its like the first line of the first pin lol

[idle vine]

swear that wasnt there yesterday

lol

[buoyant herald]

you don't frantically check for new red dots on the pins?!?!

actually i think it was edited in to be fair

[balmy condor]

to be fair it was edited in 3 days ago

[red schooner]

First thing I do when I wake up. Check pins, then add reactions onto every picture in the pet thread

[balmy condor]

and it's the second video

[idle vine]

in summary, I am just blind

[buoyant herald]

i was trying to be generous and forgiving

[balmy condor]

I am not mercyful

[gritty needle]

Hello guys, hope ur are fine. I have an ask, do you have a macro for the openning ?

[balmy condor]

like

the entire thing?

[dreamy rover]

sleep time wisper

[balmy condor]

no sleep time

work time

1:40am is prime work hours

[golden loom]

cast sequence opener ⏸️

[dreamy rover]

what

[golden loom]

did I stutter?

[dreamy rover]

/castsequence reset=30 deathmark, shiv, kingbsane, fuck ass envendomoe, envoeneom, enovenemom, multitale

[balmy condor]

incredible work

[buoyant herald]

now i see why im not parsing 100s

[dreamy rover]

tbh this macro is worthy of a mention in the guide

[scenic kelp]

Hey guys, if we do big pulls in m+ Like First pull flood 12-15 mobs how many bleed and garrote do you maintain? All mobs or like 3 times bleed and garrote (=9mobs) then CT and Spamming envenoms with Caustic splatter?

[vital flicker]

/castsequence reset=5 Garrote,Garrote,Garrote,Fok,FOk...

[balmy condor]

improved garrotes on everything, rupture on everything important, CT, cds, envenom

[hollow saddle]

I would guess you'd just use the aoe bleed window, and after that go to castic but im just a clown so dont listen to me

[balmy condor]

very rarely do you ever need the full 12 seconds

[gritty needle]

the guid is wow head ?

[dreamy rover]

yes but ignore the macro its a joke O_O

[gritty needle]

Ah xd why

[balmy condor]

cause one macro for the full opener is really stupid

[scenic kelp]

So I start ambush for nightstalker then double garrote (=6mobs) into bleed (=3) again double garrote (=12) bleed (=6) fok->ct->env?

[balmy condor]

sounds good

[ebon olive]

MAybe i am doing something wrong but just tried on Gally LFR. Is Assa really that degen that i just mostly stand there and wait for energy keep bleeds up and just builder spender `? COming from Outlaw 😄

[balmy condor]

yep

spec is braindead easy these days

[ebon olive]

Im being anxious about competing with Hunters now in degen 😄

[scenic kelp]

Ty Master Whispyr! 🥲

[balmy condor]

maintain the things with a duration, line up cooldowns, spam envenom

gg assassination done

[ebon olive]

Sad Story

[balmy condor]

it's gotten VERY simplified over the last 1.5 years

pooling all but dead

tea is macro'd

[dreamy rover]

i go ambush > garrote > rupture > rupture (bone spike) > garrote > garrote... (depending on size of pack ill send more or less garrotes) > crimson tempest > shiv > deathmark + HoC > mutilate (spatter activation) > envenom the shit out of my main target, its it good

[balmy condor]

echoing reprimand and sepsis gone

bone spike passive on rupture

slice and dice gone

envenom uptime irrelevant

[dreamy rover]

bled build btw

[ebon olive]

I mean tbh i still hate the pooling, thats just not fun

[balmy condor]

what else did I miss

[ebon olive]

No need to keep track of bleed in AOE autp splits

[vital flicker]

bone spike was such a good covenant ability when it came out, I miss old bone spike

[dreamy rover]

kingsbane not even that relevant

[balmy condor]

pooling is fun when there's actual feedback and payoff for playing around your energy

the problem is that your energy doesn't mean jack shit

[balmy condor]

yeh that's fine

like I am thoroughly convinced that pooling can be a cool and fun mechanic, if it fucking mattered for more than 0.0000001%

there's a very satisfying payout holding your resources and then unloading it when you decide to go

[hasty viper]

The Fatebound tab in bleed build on wowhead is wrong, it's a repeat of the Hybrid build text below

[balmy condor]

rewards planning and knowledge of the class

like in theory, very good

[balmy condor]

ah fuck

[hasty viper]

;D

[balmy condor]

honestly just forget that tab exists

fatebound is unplayable in m+

idk why it's there

[ebon olive]

Who Fatebound anyxway YD

XD

[hasty viper]

Ofc, just clicked it out of curiosity

But if someone clicks it they might misunderstand

[balmy condor]

fatebound's good on sprocketmonger

:)

[hasty viper]

And think ,,Oh so it's better"

Right below it it says ,,Fatebound is very behind numerically" but as we know people can't read

[ebon olive]

Stuck on Rick so probably not gonna see for a long time 😄

[balmy condor]

poof its gone

[hasty viper]

You work fast

[dreamy rover]

yhea kinda sucks that advanced play and mechanics arent being rewarded lately, and braindead classes like hunters and pallys getting crazy buffs and reworks

[balmy condor]

remember that I added this helpful chart

to tell people what to consider dropping

and then we've spent the last week telling people please don't drop lethal dose that would be stupid

I love world of warcraft pc edition

anyway

[dreamy rover]

just for some dude to say "drop a lethal dose point you'll be fine"

lol

[balmy condor]

it's a good thing I do a bunch of math and testing so that we can disregard it and make ignorant decisions regardless

[dreamy rover]

[balmy condor]

clicking and dragging and pressing delete is hardly worth mentioning

deleting is easy

fixing the information is the hard part

[vital flicker]

I mean, I am not saying it would be good but dropping a point of lethal dose to take IW for the bleed build would probably feel better than dropping second shiv or bone spike, it would just be a terrible choice

[hasty viper]

A lot of people just think that whatever they though of is always the smartest

Or they just like spreading misinformation

[balmy condor]

I'm not 4.8k io

what do I know

[hasty viper]

Yeah whispyr I think you should just give away your wowhead guide to someone else to maintain it

[balmy condor]

yeah, give it to an m+ guy that lives in dungeons and then won't update it

[ebon olive]

IM ele Main but i have 6k rio so probalby ez for me to do XD

[balmy condor]

6k rio? my oh my

I didn't realize I was in the presence of ROYALTY

[ebon olive]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

XD

[balmy condor]

please your majesty, have my moderator role

[dreamy rover]

whispor please send admin password for wowhead

[hasty viper]

,,Here we talent out of soothing subterfuge and without a trace to take Cold blood in our bleed build so we can use it on our first garrote"

🙂

[dreamy rover]

about to do some trolling in the hunter isle

[dreamy rover]

new tech alert

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

I need to sim that right away!

[dreamy rover]

CB + huge tempest

profit

[balmy condor]

okay hear me out right

what if we untalent the bonus cp talents

[hasty viper]

,,After we use this awesome tech play, we use CT instantly again so we can make the duration longer trust"

[balmy condor]

that way we have a max of 5

and then we can't mald about being on 6/7 for darkest night

and we get more darkest nights

thoughts?

[hasty viper]

I think you should use finisher on 4 cp then, makes sense

[obtuse robin]

get it done run the math

[balmy condor]

true

[ebon olive]

My inner Batman likes more Darkest Nights

[hasty viper]

And then fatebound becomes better so we go gambling

[ebon olive]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-justice-league-batman-mood-brood-gif-14855600461153137116

[balmy condor]

if we finish on 4, we'll never lose the mark again

it's a flawless plan

[hasty viper]

We stop all complainers at once

[ebon olive]

wouldnt that make it even more brainrot specc :D?

[dreamy rover]

[dreamy rover]

literally insane

less cp per finisher = less energy per finisher = more finisher = good

[little tulip]

open with cheap shot

whewre is the lie

[hasty viper]

No just open with mutilate, cast it manually instead of ambush

[little tulip]

i could bank a 14 cinder rn in 665

[hasty viper]

So you can still complain to the tank about no restealths cuz no mark

[little tulip]

right now

[balmy condor]

https://fixvx.com/DeepLeffen/status/1687155756859011072

Deep Leffen Bot (@[e-mail])

Sometimes it feels like my friends and family don't really understand how much blood, sweat, and tears it takes to be this mediocre at a game I don't really like.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 3, 2023, 5:37 PM

[vital flicker]

how much are the stratagem nodes worth? it feels like they are basically just there to eat a talent point forever and always

[balmy condor]

the eternal tweet

[balmy condor]

yeah, an insane amount

[hasty viper]

LMAO

[vital flicker]

deep leffen is a classic

[balmy condor]

I think about deep leffen a lot

[little tulip]

8 second ct

[balmy condor]

a gift to the world

[hasty viper]

That is literally me

[vital flicker]

literally better than the real leffen

[balmy condor]

and enough to piss off that piece of shit leffen

he set his twitter to private cause of it

thank god

-1 scum on social media

[dreamy rover]

big me

[balmy condor]

AI is healing the world

[ebon olive]

My Day is saved

i just realize coming from outlaw to assa i can finally use WoWAnalyzer ❤️

[balmy condor]

I don't wanna break your heart

[ebon olive]

Outdated... meh

Still better then no analyzer i guess XD

[balmy condor]

it's...... really bad

[vital flicker]

the fact that you want to use wowanalyzer breaks my heart

[ebon olive]

Well how would you try to get better ?

I cant tell myself how to get better if i dont know what im doing wrong XD

I breal your heart even more

[balmy condor]

we should've seen the whole warcraftlogs/archon turning into a capitalism supervillain thing when wowanalyzer happened honestly

[ebon olive]

I USE HEKILI

[sharp viper]

you read the guides, you look at your logs on your own, you ask for help in here

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[dreamy rover]

alright dude get him out of the discord

[ebon olive]

Cant understand the hate tbh logs are ok for not knowing wtf im doing 😄

[balmy condor]

I mean an automatic analysis tool? Who's maintaining it? Community members, out of the goodness of their heart, unpaid

[ebon olive]

SEE

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zQfqhVtwynRWaY6B?fight=last&type=damage-done

[balmy condor]

so that archon can take the ad revenue and sell their patreon?

we're living in hell

[dreamy rover]

fuck archon/murlok/wowanalyzer

all we fucking need is a website

[balmy condor]

amen david my goat

[dreamy rover]

called

warcraftlogs.com

and wowhead.com

[balmy condor]

bro is spittin

[ebon olive]

Im open for that

[dreamy rover]

maybe raider io but optional

[ebon olive]

Just need to figure out how to learn to compare and see my mistakes

[dreamy rover]

might've been the 1st time i've spattered in here

[golden loom]

wclogs the goat

[balmy condor]

you're twinklz obviously and parsed a 98 no issues gg

[vital flicker]

I just make my build purely off vibes and then I come in here to argue why my builds are better than what wowhead says

[ebon olive]

Thanks for the help XD

[balmy condor]

wclogs is literally like a "can you separate the art from the artist" moment

wclogs is the graduation to archon's kanye

maybe that's a bit too far

it's the uh

billie jean to archon's michael jackson

okay maybe that's too far too

uhhhhh

it's the

[sharp viper]

LFR parses

[dreamy rover]

hey you should do that manually! its pretty simple, compare your opener and rotation generally through the timeline and cast amounts

[balmy condor]

it's the good part of a shit company

[ebon olive]

Well got ID HC and Normal. and cant que up fast for mythic Gally XD

[dreamy rover]

you get a pretty good grip of whats going on doing that

[golden loom]

LFR parsing is beauty

[balmy condor]

no but like actually who are you

there's fucking 4 rogues in this bitch

[ebon olive]

Twinklz

sorry 😄

[balmy condor]

well then what's the issue

[vital flicker]

that's almost all of the rogues that play wow

[ebon olive]

No issue just wanted to trigger David that this is a Hekili Parse 😄

[balmy condor]

oh, sure

I mean hekili sucks ass

but it's unironically better than the vast majority of the monkey logs I've seen

[ebon olive]

Well i see when i get on RIck on MOnday and come back with questions on WC logs to improve :=)

[balmy condor]

basically purely because it gets the first ~20 seconds of the fight correct and doesn't fuck up cooldowns too bad

so you just kinda

get 95% of the way there

[vital flicker]

Hekili just won't actually help you understand what you're doing, you're just pressing buttons

[balmy condor]

which apparently is INSANELY hard

[dreamy rover]

ill out-parse you rn

[ebon olive]

XD

[dreamy rover]

jk lol im trash

[ebon olive]

PLEASE

[balmy condor]

it's true, but it's also a thing of beauty

[ebon olive]

IDK if my Raid would all use Hekili on all CLasses we would probably have a DPS gain of 40%

[balmy condor]

it's able to do an opener

already better than probably the majority of normal raiders

[golden loom]

noooo!!! I lost my rank 1 LFR gallywix

[dreamy rover]

already beats me

[balmy condor]

I've seen some atrocities man

I seen some shit

people just be slamming their head into the keyboard

[ebon olive]

I mean cant be hard to write a Rotation Helper for Assa as you said yourself. Its brainrot easy 😄

[balmy condor]

I mean

vanish into rupture

is definitely something

[golden loom]

[balmy condor]

but ya know

close enough I guess

[dreamy rover]

what

[balmy condor]

yeah surely

what could possibly go wrong

it's just a robot

[ebon olive]

Its probably either Vanish into Garrote or Ambush right ?=

[balmy condor]

[dreamy rover]

assa isnt really good for a rotation helper

whispyr how do i make the raid bots bot play for me

[balmy condor]

I want you to think about this

[sharp viper]

I want a whispyr bot to yell at me

[ebon olive]

Let me read a guide first XD

[balmy condor]

just open your talent page

[earnest remnant]

[dreamy rover]

YES

[balmy condor]

sit there for me

here

look at this

and think for me

take it in

[ebon olive]

ANything in particular i shoud look at 😄

[balmy condor]

you'll find it

[golden loom]

Try to look for what makes vanish a good button

[dreamy rover]

hint: it might kinda be in this section maybe

have i spoiled the fun of it?

[red schooner]

Ye

[balmy condor]

a little but I think it's unironically still difficult if you don't know what's going on

that's the magic of hekili

[red schooner]

I tried hekili once when I was learning feral druid and I legit couldn't handle it.

[sharp viper]

Hey guys, I am using guitar hero, why can't i start my own band?

[red schooner]

You get hyperfixated on the hekili section

[balmy condor]

also shadowheart is such a based take now that I'm looking at this

I didn't even realize

but my god

giga chad

[dreamy rover]

i just feel bad for the dude

[balmy condor]

no no

[dreamy rover]

hes not supposed to know it all 😦

[balmy condor]

this is character development

[dreamy rover]

oh yhea

look at it from that angle

[golden loom]

I think reading all your talents for any spec is a good thing

[balmy condor]

it's like throwing your 2 year old into a swimming pool and seeing the struggle

[red schooner]

He's in his training montage rn

[dreamy rover]

i've been clowned on a lot on here so

[red schooner]

Gonna emerge a week later covered in bruises but parsing 99s

[balmy condor]

it's not clowning if we're trying to foster growth

[golden loom]

when I am bored I look through talents of specs I would never touch just to understand more 😎

[balmy condor]

even clowns have to go through training my friend

remember that

[ebon olive]

I havent skilled that in my Gallywix build and i took that from Lorrgs?

[dreamy rover]

yhea it worked, went from gray/green parses on sub rogue to 85-95s

[balmy condor]

they got whole ass clown schools

[golden loom]

also I am currently watching wotlk rogue guides

[dreamy rover]

(after i was clowned on)

[red schooner]

The build is correct

[balmy condor]

yes, good

[golden loom]

I have never played wotlk, and its not coming out for like 4 years

[balmy condor]

so why is vanishing strange

you didn't take those talents in that cluster

the build is correct

[ebon olive]

Ah so pressing vanish is wrong not the rupture ?

[balmy condor]

well I mean the vanish itself is the thing we're chortling about yes

the rupture might've been fine to refresh I didn't really bother counting the seconds

[golden loom]

like vanishing doesnt hurt you, because it does not do anything

[earnest remnant]

the development is coming

[balmy condor]

we're actually so close

my balls are tingling

[sharp viper]

[balmy condor]

jealousy does not look good on you

[sharp viper]

[cunning needle]

dont listen to him, i think it really brings out your eyes

makes them pop

[balmy condor]

mods check hims pronouns

[sharp viper]

I can't remember when I last made his balls tingle

[balmy condor]

call him.

you can make things right

[sharp viper]

DM me your number

[balmy condor]

[dreamy rover]

whispir i think you should recolor the hair

get it to a crimson tempest red tone

would be insanely pog

go to the salon and tell them "sudden demise red"

[balmy condor]

I do it myself

but I will keep it in mind

[dreamy rover]

chad

im too scared of doing hair stuff on my own and ruining my hair

[sharp viper]

You are the maker of your destiny, go out there and ruin your hair on your own, on your term!

[balmy condor]

I've told this story a million times

but have you heard the story of the first time I dyed my hair david

[dreamy rover]

no lol

epic moment inc

[balmy condor]

so in june, I will have been with my gf for 10 years

we got together junior year of highschool

senior prom rolls around the next year

[vital flicker]

time to get a new model

[dreamy rover]

cute

[balmy condor]

the night before prom

taking my shower and stuff

and I'm like

what if I just like

dye it blue

my dad is like you're a dumbfuck for that fr

[sharp viper]

he's not wrong yk

[balmy condor]

my mom was there that day, she looked at it and was like "man you're a dumbfuck for that fr, BUT if you wanna, lets do it, yolo"

so we dye my hair

[dreamy rover]

dyeing you own hair a day before prom is DIABOLICAL

[balmy condor]

I do not tell my gf any of this btw

we're supposed to be in a rose garden for pictures that morning

for pictures

I still have not told her

she's already there waiting for me

I still have not told her

[balmy condor]

I get out of the car and I'm like "hey what's up"

[dreamy rover]

with a blue head of hair lol

[sharp viper]

did you have blue hair dye on hand?

[balmy condor]

yes sir

[balmy condor]

I did

well, kinda

my mom got some

[dreamy rover]

what was the reaction

[red schooner]

Turning up to prom looking like a half-assed sonic cosplay

[balmy condor]

she thought it looked great

[dreamy rover]

yhea GG that might be reason why you're still together

you found the one mr

[balmy condor]

very happy

great day

[radiant raven]

That's adorable

[balmy condor]

10/10

[vital flicker]

that's how you know she's the one

[red schooner]

Very cute

[radiant raven]

That's a real good shade of blue, damn. 10/10

[sharp viper]

wife material

[dreamy rover]

i call that 2019 ninja blue

[sharp viper]

also wife material

[balmy condor]

yeah except it was 2016 and I did it first

[dreamy rover]

RWF WINNER HERE

blue hair CE

what is the defias brotherhood rank and how do i become one, i want red name...

[subtle kiln]

Sub main.

[balmy condor]

it's the patreon role (that is the only reward)

(the patreon has been inactive for a while)

[dreamy rover]

idk if i qualify though, got a couple mutes and a warning on my record

[balmy condor]

(idk why they give us money)

[limber lion]

When are you proposing?

I promise I won't tell birdgirl

[balmy condor]

this year but I can't say when cause she's in here

[sharp viper]

for the red names

[limber lion]

Heheh

Cute

[dreamy rover]

nice

[sharp viper]

[dreamy rover]

ill pre-pull the congratz

gz whispyr

[balmy condor]

ty

[dreamy rover]

well my wow clock tells me enough balance gearing after today's tuning notes

so good night people

[sharp viper]

the day just started!

[left abyss]

do you play follow the blood with KB / DPB?

[vital flicker]

my WoW clock tells me to gear a set to play outlaw rogue after today's tuning notes, I think my clock is broken

[balmy condor]

no

[left abyss]

ty

[rotund oak]

U have a nice taste 🤘

nice couple

[rotund oak]

more like mom material

weirdo 😛

[vestal cliff]

omg whispy you look so happy thats so cute

that picture just made me happy too

[little tulip]

ye very 🙂

[rotund oak]

true question is

little whispyr when

[whole stratus]

Ppl usually say the bleed build does more ST dmg in m+ but my sims say otherwise. And yes I have separate gear sets for both builds. What could be the reason? Maybe sims doesn’t account for the execute dmg or something like that?

[balmy condor]

Link the sim

[whole stratus]

10ish minutes, I’m afk and on phone right now

[balmy condor]

np

[little tulip]

kids or monster fridge

100 dollars monster fridge

https://tenor.com/view/jasper-cat-jam-monster-punch-gif-19481630

[copper hazel]

vs 100k+ dolla for kid, i know what im going for

[ebon olive]

THanks guys i feel enlightend. Might have been my fat finger as i switched Multilate from E to R and Vanish on E now as i had it like that on Outlaw.

[balmy condor]

GROWTH

love to see it

[forest mountain]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[little tulip]

yeah im trying to get better at ideal mouseover positioning this week

not moving enough to line up a free rupture or two as pack transitions to new pack

and i already refreshed ct/caustic is near 10 sec

and u refresh a 20 sec rupture :vom:

[indigo ginkgo]

did the sims change something from yesterday to to day ? i lost like 40k dps

[last hinge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

bug fix to deathstalkers mark yeah

[indigo ginkgo]

thank you !

[restive hawk]

do stats change in aoe with new build?

[balmy condor]

haste is better than before

[indigo ginkgo]

riviseted the fatebound single target 45 k up wtf

same time ago deathstalker went upfront

[balmy condor]

well a bug fix that makes deathstalkers mark weaker will make fatebound look stronger, yes

[indigo ginkgo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ism1qWUTgYzWeGfyT3Dqcb

[balmy condor]

yeh

[indigo ginkgo]

when you sim for the rest of the bosses you use what config ?
add cleave ?

[balmy condor]

nah

you just sim single target

cause caustic does all the work anyway

[indigo ginkgo]

ok! thanks

[balmy condor]

fatebound only playable on sprocketmonger

sucks everywhere else

[sharp viper]

why sprocketmonger? what's different there

we are still on stix, so haven't tried the fight yet

[balmy condor]

pure single target

[indigo ginkgo]

full single

[balmy condor]

fatebound nerfs itself with more targets

that's why it's magically like 2% ahead in single target

but -26% in dungeons

half the talents are literally just written in a way that says "if you have more than 1 target, this talent doesn't do anything"

[prime hull]

Do we have any pi sims with the bleed build im trying to convince my group to PI me haha.

[balmy condor]

raidbots.com

[prime hull]

Is there a way to submit an aoe profile to bloodmallet, i saw it was using a pure single target build for the 5t sim.

[balmy condor]

yeh I'm workin on it

the issue is that

even if I submit a profile

[prime hull]

Ah, cool!

[balmy condor]

there's 20 other specs on there that also have single target profiles

so whats the fucking point

[prime hull]

We show up on top and snipe the PIs 😎

[balmy condor]

we don't though

even if I were to submit a profile we'd be like

third

and technically if I was being totally ethical, bleed build kinda blows at 3t and 5t

so I wouldn't even be submitting a bleed build to begin with

realistically outside of niche situations like single target execute or a very important prio target or the uhdk not having cooldowns

you just don't give us PI

the dk will always be better with it

PI is feast or famine

you're either the best with it, and you get it

or you're not

and we're not

[golden loom]

just play in double priest no DK groups 😎

[royal lantern]

bro it will allready be a torture to convince my RL that Pi is good on me for Mugzee

[balmy condor]

why are you getting a pi on mugzee

[indigo ginkgo]

they should tranform the talent into to a target x players random or something, or grup buf but less powerfull

[balmy condor]

that sounds

insanely cancer

[golden loom]

lets not change PI

its a cool spell

[royal lantern]

lets delete Pi

its a headache

[balmy condor]

I mean I'm ngl

[indigo ginkgo]

for me its a delete

[oak musk]

I like PI. I dislike how some people use it.

[indigo ginkgo]

i still remmenber us getting way nerfed in las expansion because pi on rogues maked us went way up in the logs , and then nerfs us to the ground, so players that never got the pi in the 1 place got screwwd even more

[balmy condor]

the biggest headache about PI, in order of biggest headache to least headache:

1. People cooking ways to "fix" it in just deranged ways
2. The minmaxers going "okay but if 3 moons of jupiter align to form a lunar eclipse and I pressed deathmark 3 seconds ago but the dk is holding for the boss and the boss is 3 minutes out, then we get pi surely no?"
3. "BLIZZARD IS NERFING OUR SPEC CAUSE OF PI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
4. "I can't parse cause of PI in the logs"
5. idk
6. PI itself

[buoyant pilot]

We don’t sand bag enough for that, Warlocks need to teach us

[oak musk]

That first one seemed a little targeted kek

[balmy condor]

they're all targetted

[royal lantern]

#4 should be "the endless discussions you have with Pi during raids"

[balmy condor]

just a question of who's the target

[ashen nimbus]

is there a macro that stop your from dubel clicking tea?

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[ashen nimbus]

ty*

[balmy condor]

it's always entertaining how much the wow community will run themselves into the ground worrying about shit that doesn't matter

raaaaaa pooling so important

nooooooooooo give the pi to meeeeeeeeeeee

+4 grim batol AUG ONLY

[golden loom]

+6 YOUR KEY TRINKET HR LUST + AUG

[balmy condor]

NO LEAVER IF YOU LEAVE I WILL KICK YOU

[golden loom]

Still think its insanely crazy to say +6 your key but the trinket is HR to me cause I made the group in the group finder

[buoyant pilot]

HR on personal loot is a beautiful thing

[balmy condor]

wow players 🤝 mental illness

like peanut butter and jelly

[royal lantern]

sooo......

a american thing only?

[balmy condor]

no one asked you

[royal lantern]

[golden loom]

think my favorite thing ive seen though is
LF4M Tank healer DPS Start live - good group so far

[indigo ginkgo]

ahhahaha

[golden loom]

Good group when ur alone in the group is very based

[buoyant pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[balmy condor]

I saw a group at the start of tww that was something along the lines of "community keys, my carry"

and it was a streamer with legit 7 followers

[golden loom]

gigachad

[balmy condor]

very optimistic

[whole stratus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9fzdff51xojbvSHSx9KQzB Bleed
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oKktje1vUG4Dx8W78diJzr Hybrid
1 target, 3 minutes with lust
The difference seems to get bigger as the fight length goes on

[balmy condor]

oh yikes

yeah I mean if you're simming THAT version of hybrid

[royal lantern]

the "its actually just what we use in raids" thing

?

[balmy condor]

yeah forced induction ttk

[royal lantern]

bro

[prime hull]

why not this build

[balmy condor]

because he's playing the gigachad +25 push only need 2% extra boss damage build

where you just give up a fuck ton of aoe for fun

to squeeze out a bit more boss damage

on a spec that doesn't have boss damage

[prime hull]

It is pretty sad I'm being gapped on bosses by 640 monk alts but doing 5 mil overall haha.

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

such is the life of an aoe spec

we're not in keys for boss damage

[red portal]

Guys - stupid question... but the wowhead guide on talents for M+ is not getting Kingsbane, does this makes sense?

[red schooner]

ye

[red portal]

the aoe rotation remains the same?

[red schooner]

Pretty much just we shiv more in AoE due to arterial

[red portal]

aight - thank you

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/meaw-gif-1134719172642368181

[whole stratus]

I guess thats my bad but I went with those talents because I thought boss damage could seem unacceptable at times which I hated and I didn't like the other build so went with the more ST focused one. But the forced induction row ofc didn't "fix" the ST issues anyway :/ But bottom line is I won't have more boss dmg with the bleed build than what I had before I guess

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean you're simming basically the biggest single target build, sacrificing your aoe for it

and bleed is basically neutral

so to me

that sounds like just an upgrade

[gusty mirage]

Not our fault your tastebuds don’t appreciate perfection

[balmy condor]

you do the same single target but you get way more aoe cause you're not just throwing aoe talents into the dumpster for it

[royal lantern]

what jam would you even put on it

[gusty mirage]

Boysenberry personally

[warm vortex]

Tbh if you want single target

Just fuckin swap to sub

[balmy condor]

reaL

[gusty mirage]

Or play WW Monk or DK

And have it all

[royal lantern]

i let ww and brewmaster monks have their time on the sun

[whole stratus]

Got almost 3200 with Sub and I feel like it's time to go back to Assa, especially in some specific keys if I want to push further.
I guess the reason I took forced induction was because I was so used to the Sub boss dmg 😛

[royal lantern]

they get ignored often enough by blizz

[royal lantern]

assa does no boss dmg in m+

[warm vortex]

Just play mage and have a meta spec most seasons

[royal lantern]

like, if you want consistent high aoe dmg, you play assa, bt boss dmg is kinda mid

if you want good boss dmg you play sub, but aoe is not great

if you want to be good at everything, play a top meta spec

[warm vortex]

Then you’ll never have to worry about being mistreated by bliz

[royal lantern]

thats why they are top meta

[whole stratus]

I have a balance druid ready, should be fine

[gusty mirage]

True

Even when they cry about being bad they’re still better than 70% of classes lmao

[warm vortex]

True

And plus they play like dogshit

This was a cinder

Up to ipa

Mage died like 10 times and “”Dced”” the second we pulled ipa

I was pumping D:

[royal lantern]

you have to be fluent in "Mage" to understand that

when mage players say "bottom tier spec" they mean "at the bottom of the top 5"

[warm vortex]

Or bottom of the dps meter cause they are playing it wrong and wanna whine and blame the game

It’s like I remember talking to someone and they went

“Yea Assa is the worst rogue spec at the moment cause you are so dependent on restealth

I was just

What???

[royal lantern]

thats a very very very very very common mindset

like, i even have to remind my raidmates sometimes that they can just pull

only let me restealth when its like, a really big dangerous pull you dont wanna do a chain into anyway

[warm vortex]

Yea

But like I wouldn’t complain if a tank still checks and doesn’t do stupid pulls

But it’s not required, just a nice bonus yknow?

Like
“Hey wait rogue needs stealth”

I mean
I won’t say no? (Unless it’s overly obnoxious)

[prime hull]

To be fair, WW monk kinda is meh in keys, they don't have that much aoe. I do more overall on my 650 Assa rogue than my 665 Windwalker.

Boss damage yeah insanely good.

[warm vortex]

Have you guys seen MM btw

Fucking slot machine simulator

“Do I hit lock and load or sit here psising my pants”

[earnest remnant]

i had a tank ask me after a weekly key a few days ago
"did assa get buffed or smth, whats up with that dmg"
"yeah a bit"
"BTW why werent you mad that i kept chainpulling i usually have rogues screaming at me"
"cuz i dont care ill do good dmg anyway as long as you dont just drag a low hp mob into a new pack its fine"
"noted"
random shammy in the group
"he is just a god gamer at rogue"
had to include the glaze i got xD

[warm vortex]

Bro getting glazed both inside wow and outside of wow feels great

Whenever someone says smth like

“A hunter that actually knows how to play the game”

I just get the biggest smile on my face

[royal lantern]

shammy was right tbh

[earnest remnant]

i am no god

im above avg

[worldly loom]

Hey guys, im new to sin rogue. What do we do if we cant stealth between packs and got no vanish up? Do we manually dot every mob?

[balmy condor]

Sim Bugfix

Due to an issue with Mutilate not correctly consuming Deathstalker's Mark in Sims, some players may notice their simdps has dropped. Additionally, builds without Vicious Venoms have become slightly better, as has fatebound (still only in pure single target). You should make sure to sim your character on LATEST to see the differences for yourself and make the decision between VV and ImpGar/MA. Here are the strings for reference:

Fatebound (Only sprocketmonger, full single target with internal bleeding)CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmBDAAAAAAzCsMDAAAAAAttNzMmZmxYmZWmtZmZMwYmZmxMb2GzAYgFYGjGzGIbDYD
As a reminder for fatebound we take cold blood instead of supercharger. Macro cold blood to kingsbane. Use vanish during the cold blood in deathmark. This wil double flip edge case coins. Otherwise rotation is the same

Deathstalker VV (With Caustic as we take it on 7/8 fights)CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZDWmBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwCA
Deathstalker MA (With Caustic as we take it on 7/8 fights)CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmx2MAAAAAAMbwyMAAAAAA022MzgZGjZmZZ2mZmxAjZmZGzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

Additionally an issue has been identified regarding the on-death energy refund from venomous wounds. Not only is the on-death refund bugged in game and giving 25% more energy than intended, but sims are not reflecting the effect properly as well. This will most likely cause a shift in "rupture snipe" logic, but this will require some changes. More information soon

[balmy condor]

yep, but you're supposed to hold vanish for those moments so the best advice is "don't get to that point to begin with"

[worldly loom]

Got it, thank you 🙂

[static glacier]

hey you want whispyr to crash out?

[static glacier]

does this mean we rupture the rik barrels

[balmy condor]

yes

[static glacier]

LOL

[golden loom]

[static glacier]

!ricardo vibrations

https://tenor.com/view/sahnap-cat-cat-meme-eye-shy-gif-13190993575020735089

[balmy condor]

turns out blizzard hasn't changed the logic of venomous wounds since 6.1

and sims haven't changed it since then either

[static glacier]

all ima say is rupture sniping normally gives like 200 energy

[balmy condor]

that would be a 40 second rupture

quite impressive

you're doing like a FI rupture?

[static glacier]

im sorry if ur rupture is shorter than mine

[golden loom]

so rupture -> bonespike combo point rupture -> bonespike combo point rupture on some richard barrles?

[static glacier]

[balmy condor]

possible, but it depends on how soon the barrels will die

like it's not just hurrdurr rupture

[golden loom]

ye

new rupture build

[balmy condor]

how's it feel knowing you wouldn't have been even top 10 with that

[static glacier]

are you ready to bow down to your warlock overlords?

Would you like the new pin in song format?

with creative liberties taken

[near valley]

How creative?

[balmy condor]

I'm already bracing for "whispyr but you said rupture sniping was bad"

because I didn't consider that it could be using numbers from 2012

I mean I did fuck up in that regard, it's true

[golden loom]

Have you checked that the sim is at hit cap and fully worldbuffed?

[balmy condor]

I could've been more diligent in digging for that

so yes

mistake made

and I was dumb for that

[hidden bay]

[balmy condor]

but I mean cmon man why the fuck do I need to dig back 13 years on a passive

[golden loom]

What was the mutilate issue

[balmy condor]

game is spaghetti

[tall atlas]

what is the ideal expertise % we need?

[balmy condor]

so deathstalker mark is supposed to buff your next mutilate cast, but because mutilate works off of a container system, where you're casting a dummy spell that casts the actual main hand spell + off hand spell, the issue became that the spelldata the sims scrape from the game points to a different spell than the spell the sim was casting

so it never got removed

essentially leading to a perma mut buff

[golden loom]

oh wait yeah thats a thing that mark does

[balmy condor]

yeh

not overly convoluted debuff btw

[golden loom]

atleast I dont gotta go back

[balmy condor]

it's very strange

cause it's -0.8% for you

and when the change came in I didn't think it mattered

cause it's also -0.5% for me

I tested it a little and it didnt' make any of my test profiles want to swap

[wise whale]

thank god

[balmy condor]

but then earlier today some people were like hey why does impgar sim +0.7% now

and I'm like

[hidden bay]

you are not making me change talents again!!!!!!

[wise whale]

cba i got used to it on cauldron

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah, you can just stick to it

it's very strange though

I'm not entirely sure why it's so good for some and so bad for others

[wise whale]

do you think its dependant at all on crit values?

[golden loom]

The mutilate thing is benefitial to both builds tho so shouldnt be a crazy diff, one casts more mutilate the other casts harder hitting ones

[balmy condor]

vicious and imp gar are both mastery-influenced talent picks, and master assassin is just generic crit that doesn't cause any overcaps

so like

who fucking knows

at first I was like okay maybe characters with more haste cause then imp gar more ticks during deathmark and so more important blah blah

but it oddly seems WORSE with haste

so hell if I know what's going on

[golden loom]

I mean yeah I have a huge amount of haste

[balmy condor]

yeh

[golden loom]

like 10 or 11k

[balmy condor]

there seems to be at least some trend towards more haste = more vv

but I can't begin to explain what's happening

[earnest remnant]

glad it was a habit of mine that i never could get rid off

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean it did always feel great

I always sniped shit constantly

and then right after I'd go "ah fuck that wasn't worth"

but dunno

we'll see when sims get fixed

[static glacier]

but man u get two more muts of dopamine

[golden loom]

so atleast the fix is a vibes gain

[static glacier]

and the sicko mode rupture animation

vs lame envenom thats not even dn

[golden loom]

rupture + bonespike going out feels very good

[balmy condor]

I can't wait to have to put in a rupture snipe line into the APL that accounts for bone spike resets and shit god it's gonna suck so bad

if talented into bone spike and less than 5 adds and also you're under 150 energy and you don't have giga energy regen and and and and and

then snipe

smile

[hidden bay]

NOOOOOOOO

[static glacier]

YOO

who was that loser who flamed fatebound earlier today

i manifested this shit

[golden loom]

I did not even bother simming fatebound, I aint playing it on sprocket either way

[balmy condor]

yeah too bad you add a second target and fatebound falls off a fucking cliff

[earnest remnant]

wish i did as well

[red schooner]

real

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/blud-gif-2232788265298867531

[hidden bay]

yea no. i rather play current build, fuck the 10k dps

[balmy condor]

like repeat this sim with fatebound running caustic, and then sim 1 target cleave add with fatebound running caustic as well

[static glacier]

maybe i could cosplay pre-spatter sin

where we didnt touch adds ever

[golden loom]

I only played fatebound during my heroic adventures on sikran/kyveza and it just always felt like it did less damage

[static glacier]

I will say one thing

[balmy condor]

just RNG more?

whats the issue

highroll

[static glacier]

blizz hasnt let sin be bad for an entire tier for a while now

[hidden bay]

i had wrong gear equipped but thats fine

[static glacier]

we always get buffed late#

if we start out shit

[balmy condor]

okay, but problem

I'm gonna run out of random 10+ year old bugs to find

[warm vortex]

Huh?

[golden loom]

Think I had like a 14 or 15 coin streak in an opener once and then it just fell off a cliff during the rest of the fight anyways

[balmy condor]

the fatebound experience

[golden loom]

or WAIT NO I REMEMBER

[golden loom]

I had a 15 coin opener on mythic sikran, AND GOT 3 SHADOWS

SHIT HERO TALENT

[warm vortex]

Genuine skill issue tbf

[hidden bay]

noticed this like a few weeks ago that it gives more energy than it should

[warm vortex]

Idk why you didn’t just troll and sit in melee

[balmy condor]

and you said nothing

[hidden bay]

i am cooked bro

[balmy condor]

I noticed a few weeks ago that you a lil bitch and your mom a hoe

how bout that

I'm studious like that

an observer

[hidden bay]

[balmy condor]

call me a pidgeon the way I'm built by the government to spy on people and sit on power lines to recharge

[hidden bay]

its true

[static glacier]

Moooom whispyr / whipigeonsyrveilance going conspiracy murican again

[balmy condor]

it's not a conspiracy, why do they bob their heads like that

THINK

they're taking a lot of pictures very rapidly

the head bobbing is the shutter

WAKE UP

an animal has no reason to bob their head like that

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-bird-shake-hands-gif-10870907

[balmy condor]

but an action shot on a camera?

these pidgeons are taking 35 pictures of my balls in 4k HD in a fraction of a second

and no one cares

[tall atlas]

whats the rationale between switiching to AP + VV and MA + TTB

[balmy condor]

think about that

[golden loom]

still have no idea if that gif is real or not

after like 10 years

[balmy condor]

you wouldn't play MA + TTB ever

so idk

[tall atlas]

its russia bro theyre all genetically trained

[balmy condor]

rational is that one of those two options sucks

[static glacier]

what matters isn't if it's real or not, it's that it's plausible enough for you to be unsure

[tall atlas]

the MA Build in the pins doenst take ttb?

[balmy condor]

I mean now I'm fucking paranoid

and will check

but I hope to god it doesn't

[tall atlas]

i didnt look i just have 2 builds

[balmy condor]

yeah no

it's not ttb

[tall atlas]

cool cool

[red schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156701568155009025/1360540975310704740/FB_IMG_1744448612105.jpg?ex=67fb7e06&is=67fa2c86&hm=b1cdbb3abefb912e6ba28aa09c178dc5c0671606e8c2fce3c34a0afd9f8605f7&

[tall atlas]

soz for scaring u

[eager pond]

Quick question: the only boss you dont take spatter is Sprocket? Or is there any else?

[balmy condor]

correct

[gusty mirage]

Nah that’s actually me not the pigeons

[eager pond]

The radius is big enough even on carnage? I didnt know that
I guess on mug same with rocket add

[balmy condor]

yes

[eager pond]

Im dumb then

[warm vortex]

I think it's moreso that

IB is like

Whatever

[eager pond]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[nimble vector]

IB is an impressively bad talent

[eager pond]

Ye, but on Sprocket theres no adds
So spatter does nothing

But ye, between IB and other thing....

I guess for Rik I will go sub or just suffer as assa
Rest its okay

[worthy fable]

!sprocket

Well that didn't work

[balmy condor]

!insteadofaskingaquestionIwillhammerarandomcommandintothechatandhopeitworks

shit

[worthy fable]

XDDDDD

@balmy condor What are the whispyrs of fatebound on pure st

[wicked mica]

!cauldron

[balmy condor]

is the pin confusing

idk what I'm supposed to say

fatebound single target has always been somewhat competitive, now it's more competitive

sim yourself, make a decision

[wise whale]

oh fuck IG/MA sims higher

how do i change this

[worthy fable]

Go more haste make it sim lower quick

[wise whale]

ok

[worthy fable]

Ah I cannot believe I forgot to do this

[hidden bay]

cant believe old build is simming higher again

12.5k with correct gear

[hearty reef]

VV dead

good day

[balmy condor]

VV dead for some people

[hearty reef]

me? im one of those

[wise whale]

i dont want to be some people

[balmy condor]

gz I guess

[hearty reef]

[balmy condor]

VV is sick

[wise whale]

whispyr change it again

[balmy condor]

I will be continuing to play it

[hidden bay]

ye will aswell

rather keep the vanish in case mark disappears for whatever reason

[worthy fable]

Wait but why is it simming better for some? Is it stat weights, is it ST or cleave?

[worthy fable]

MA is simming 18k worse for me huh

[hidden bay]

LOOK THATS ME

[timber meadow]

damn did a 10 priory.. SD almost as much as my spatter 🤣

[worthy fable]

yyyy i read this, but i tried simming with recrafting and switching around all stat weights but its putting haste vv 20k above MA

[hidden bay]

[worthy fable]

and fatebound 25k lower 💀

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wdjmUwun7mPi5iYC5wedKZ

[balmy condor]

I knew it

snapcast

third eye open

[hearty reef]

uh oh

[worthy fable]

ohhhh

[hearty reef]

mister didnt put latest

[balmy condor]

bro is simming the past

💀

[worthy fable]

cheeky 💀 sim

ma still dead GBless

[balmy condor]

I'm from the future davve quick call the police, they're gonna hit the pentagon!

[hidden bay]

6 minute sim!!!!

[worthy fable]

yeah im simming for our sprocket next week

[balmy condor]

also there's gonna be this thing called bitcoin

invest in that

[worthy fable]

nah i'm going to short the stock market in 08

[red schooner]

Lets see what the robot says

Do I VV or do I MA (not trying fatebound fuck fatebound all my homies hate fatebound)

[worthy fable]

VV > MA

I think?

[red schooner]

Shit MA simming higher

[worthy fable]

nah aint no way

send the sim

[red schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hzyhuBkR9uVhNrX8id8ppT

[timber meadow]

wait no i had a specific fight highlighted ez 10% for overall

[worthy fable]

Ah you're not simming patchwerk

or?

[balmy condor]

[red schooner]

wait i'm not?

[timber meadow]

25 mil max hit

[balmy condor]

davve your glasses

[worthy fable]

Ah wait forgot my glasses

[balmy condor]

[worthy fable]

I dno this discord makes me into giga pepega

[red schooner]

so yeah MA looking like the play but its within a % either way so

its fine

probs

[worthy fable]

thats so weird why mine is simming -20k

[red schooner]

me doing .8% more damage ain't gonna make or break things but this is good to know

[raw crane]

Does this impact m+ as well?

[balmy condor]

whats your definition of impact

it impacts deathstalker

we play deathstalker in m+

so yes, it impacts m+

but that should be pretty obvious I would think

[worthy fable]

But we run MA with the bleed build anyways right?

[balmy condor]

what

[worthy fable]

what

[balmy condor]

what's this got to do with MA

[raw crane]

No VV

[worthy fable]

ohhh vv

Nah I need to start thinking before i write i swear

[balmy condor]

this is deathstalker's mark not perma buffing mutilate in sims anymore

so mut is weaker

[worthy fable]

also, what is that weird bug where vanish ambushing applies a perma 3 stack deathstalkers mark?

[red schooner]

I might go back to MA just because I like hitting buttons more and VV means I hit buttons a little bit less

[raw crane]

Change in recommended M+ build?

[worthy fable]

and it doesnt go down until u reproc DN envenom

[balmy condor]

no

[red schooner]

But, small difference either way

[balmy condor]

we don't take VV in m+

or mut talents at all for that matter

[worthy fable]

like it has to be a bug?

[balmy condor]

it's technically considered a bug, but it exists because of a fix to darkest night

I wonder if that old ass command is still around

uhhhhhhh

!dn

maybe I got rid of it

[worthy fable]

so its a bug caused by fixing another bug?

[native turret]

did our single target build change overnight, what yall yappin bout

[balmy condor]

either way, you used to not be able to have darkest night and a mark

and that pissed people off

so now you can have both

but you can't iterate the mark until you consume the darkest night

so you run into situations where you're just at 3 and have darkest night and it's "stuck" at 3

[worthy fable]

why u saying "stuck" though? Because it's literally stuck isn't it?

[balmy condor]

if it wasn't stuck, you would be able to do some interesting manevours like back to back darkest night envenoms

or overwriting a darkest night with a darkest night

so it's kinda stuck on purpose

like is it a "bug", maybe'

but at this point it seems kinda intended to work this way to prevent other headaches

[worthy fable]

Aha okay, but it is technically applied? But you just cant consume stacks for empowered mutilates?

[balmy condor]

yes, the mark and the darkest night work fine individually

you're just not allowed to consume stacks on the mark while darkest night is up

[balmy condor]

read pins btw

maybe name change time

[golden loom]

Shiv supercharger into back2back DNs hoooly

[balmy condor]

don't say it too loud, the pvpers might jizz themselves

[worthy fable]

Ohhhh so its darkest night thats causing it. Okay now I gotchu

[balmy condor]

where ping huh

I look away for 5 seconds

[hearty reef]

simmed without DTB and got an heart attack

[native turret]

was my bad, was thanking you for telling me about pin

[balmy condor]

np

[native turret]

didnt want to @ you

[balmy condor]

I'm used to it

it's only 6am

ping me at 7am though and I'll kiss you on the lips passionately

[native turret]

oh baby

sign me up

[hearty reef]

Freedom triumphed today

[balmy condor]

alexa set timer for 1 hour

bro really wants to vanish

[worthy fable]

Just let me vanish for ambush, nothing more please

[hearty reef]

honestly i'd drop MA too if it wasnt for gates

[gusty mirage]

Did it though

[hearty reef]

really liking TTB

[golden loom]

I need vanish for threat management after they fix the mark stuff and I get double DN

[peak lake]

sprocket sim fate vs vv/internal :
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9PD9LL7NQhaGr6fWUPxDGu meeeh

[worthy fable]

wait how do u get double DN im confused

[balmy condor]

the eternal struggle of the assa channel, inside you there are two wolves. One of the wolves wants to vanish for bigger burst cause raidbots says funny number go up, the other wolf wants to sit in a discord channel and bitch about needing to vanish for dps after needing to vanish for dps for the last 20 years

[golden loom]

just joshing around, u cant