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kk
begone discord demon
oh fuck true
that's actually big tech
i haven't even done that yet and we're fucking 150 pulls deep
lmao
First 2 mythic bosses down with guild and we chillin on top of meter 
might be terrible. repot back 
I'll give it a whirl Monday lmao
What the fuck am I reading
a congregation of geniuses at work
we got this
THIS MY FRIEND, IS THEORYCRAFTING AT ITS FINEST!
Big fan
Im actually not sure if rupturing the shielded drones on mugzee is correct, surely its not right? The rupture isn't doing damage but you are getting energy back
yhea if you stand on the goon cage's corner and shadowstep into someone close to it you'll get out of it
During the race I come up with something, they do it for like 0.3% gain, I get told I don’t know anything cause I’m not progging the actual fight
Then later people cook some demon shit that no one does and I once again don’t know anything

I missed this whats the tech captain?
I mean dotting the adds can be a small gain
But we’re talking indistinguishable unless you’re doing >2500 pulls
Small adds as in rocketeers, drones, or bombs?
True xd
Anything that’s close and lasts close to the full duration of rupture
Like bombs are fine to rupture if you’re getting 25 seconds of rupture out of it
And then gg Grats on 0.2%
I mean your intuition was more correct than it was wrong
It’s very easy to just rupture random mobs and not get the damage back
Don't trust your gut, your gut is a moron.
Yeah in m+ i assume 12ish seconds for rupture value
Realistically you can try to optimize it for 0.2%, fuck it up, and then lose 0.4% instead
So if your intuition says “probably not worth”
Probably good
Always err on the side of “probably not worth”
don't think i'd want to be in melee range of bombs anyways 
Dawg what
Yeah that's me after running 100 sims on my craft/ vault update
Rupturing the ones that you break is def good
Smart people can tell you it’s not, but I’m telling you it is
Idk about yall but my rupture does all its dam in 3 seconds
Simply an issue of skill
I think our definition if normal is different
Normal ppl play fury?😂 you stoned bruv
4 buttons and they are always lit up
You calling me abnormal
more than you think and used to be,been years 
Assassination is legit melee bm hunter in raids atm and we still find ways to overthink it
Top notch stuff
Okay but what if I hold my shiv outside of lingering for a dn during vexie’s damage amp
Huh?
Checkmate bozo
its the outlaws lingering essence,slowly fading
in this channel
i think another sub buff would do
they would leave this place completely
I'm not gonna lie. I'm just here so I stop killing myself with Killing Spree
"if I have no HO proc, and am below 3 pistol shots, but under 30 nrg, with 14 seconds left on my adr, technically it's best to use shiv instead of sinister so long as I use it within the next global. Using a perfect rotation this should occur ever 3:22 seconds
This should account for approx a .003% gain! This should be in the guide"
those outlaw cooks are fucking WILD
Gotta minmax duuuude
I'm reading the channel on occasion thinking like
there is no realm of existence in which my eyes could look at all those factors inside of a global let alone process and perform it
i used to do it,its ok,its just the mindset and toxicity thats unbearable
why the F should you ever live in such environment
It's called abuse, you can call us for help
I appreciate it. I need help with what to run in ToP. Bleed build seemed pretty bad (for that dungeon, not in general). Do I play hybrid?
but I do feel you, the specs are so diametrically opposed
if you didn't enjoy bleed in ToP you won't feel better as hybrid, it just adds more things to be concerned about and less throughput for doing it
top has more prio in general so sub makes more sense
ToP is just kinda shit, but yeah I agree, Sub is the play there
Ah. K guess I'll learn that next
Sub is the happy and yet still depressed medium between ninja and pirate
sub doesnt rly have outlaw traits at all
you have a few seconds of nothing, followed by a flurry of everything everywhere all at once
just talking apm
sub is all about knowing everything and planning ahead
I'm ngl though, inc scorching take:
I
miss
shadowdust
Quick and maybe stupid question. Does wound poison work on reducing the Yes Man heal?
The last 4 mobs in cinderbrew.
I haven’t tried it but I believe someone said it did
Idk if that got fixed or not though
I kinda didn't really think of it as a "heal"
more like a condition / activation dealio
It worked when I did it but without improved wound poison it was a bit ass
It’s probably possible
Devastation is the lowest apm spec in the game
And people overthink that
Idk how feasible it is though
I'm gonna manifest it I swear
It’s confirmed that it does work
But good like getting it to actually trigger
Bleed build MDI let's fucking go
You could probably get it to work on two relatively easy with some coordination
But idk I haven’t tried it so don’t know how hard it would actually be
I just fucking full aoe then when I get called out I say it’s funnel
the baguettes though!
I’m American
(Derogatory)
Im floridian
(Slur)
We hold House of Cards for Deathmark, right?
Yes

Everything getting way more expensive but at least my bowling teammate is 70k down on their 401k
I feel so liberated
Keep talking and ill unleash florida man
AWOOOGAAAAAAA
with this pingpong going on i am not sure if i am broke or rich
more likely scenario
its ok you wont need money when you get drafted for the greenland wars
anyone have a dM mark border for plater?
the WA im using is super resource heavy for some reason
greenland has like 16k inhabs, not sure there is much fighting going on
yeah the 2nd biggest nuclear power will war denmark,a bunch of hippies with attitude

second?
Russia has more nuclears so 
does anyone know how remove this text when i get close to objects?? It used to be the interact icons but I installed a UI package and it fucked it up
the "S.C.R.A.P. Heap" text
says who? russia?
another example
i am pretty sure russia has some nukes, but i wouldnt bet any money its "the most" or even "most powerful"
Eight sovereign states have publicly announced successful detonation of nuclear weapons. Five are considered to be nuclear-weapon states (NWS) under the terms of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). In order of acquisition of nuclear weapons, these are the United States, Russia (the successor of the former Soviet Union),...
it has slightly more
ye i know those "tierlists"
even IF those nukes would go off
still deployed 
i bet the USA has the more modern means of deployment... the tech advantage is staggering
true U.S has definitely more advanced technology
yhea, thats the point
i mean, strategic weapons aside... the F35 is nuclear warhead capable and has the radar footprint of a golf ball... those things can enter enemy airspace and detonate shit and be long gone before the person who got sudden demised even realised they were there...
its not like russians or anyone doesnt know they cant war with that
you can have a bunch of nukes, but if you dont have advanced bombers it'll be useless
thats why they press the big red button
im sure the fact that we got the first strike will really feel good in the nuclear winter that follows
if any nuclear weapon is used, it will be smaller tactical warheads with smaller fallout radius
yhea they wont be sending a fucking tsar bomba type of warhead
the use of strategic nuclear weapons will certainly destroy almost all life on this planet 😄
i feel like thats what we need tbh
hard reset
let the fucking plants live idk
but the more modern weapons are more like nuclear scalpels
nothing survives,nukes are stupid,should only serve for producing energy,not wpns
Have you played fallout?
just blowing up one block instead of an entire city
no fam i didnt
not sponsored, just different
special needs
lol is it actually good?
yo im slacking off on my laptop while waiting for work toa rrive
never even seen 1 frame of actual gameplay
Does my damage just get cucked in low keys (like 6s and under)? I'm gearing my rogue and I keep just doing awful damage especially if there's someone overgeared 
I was pumping in the 2s though 
play bleed build
sure it isnt optimal but not the reason your dps is bad
i also dont know what you mean by awful damage
yes your wpns are fairly bad
parsing like 50 and below, granted there's just not a lot of parses in these low keys and I'm undergeared
you can craft 2 wpns right now 658
parses in keys are not a real thing
619 is worse than open world content
nothing drops me a dagger
but yeah I guess I could craft another weapon but it feels like a waste of a spark
if crafting a chest I'd want to go with rune-branded tunic right?
its not though,u rly need a MH asap.Crafting a MH with ascension on is the first thing u wanna do
then u craft boots with writhing
and then whatever u want
those two are obligatory for progress
yeah my 645 is crafted with ascension but I haven't recrafted it yet since I figured I could just wait til I'm getting gilded crests
thx for that amazing CT WA cook miss LE
do i cast ambush to proc deathstalkers mark in my m+ opener for bleed build?
Ye, unless you already have darkest night running
bot is sleeping
Then just go for garrotte and get a big DN envenom off before it expires
ok thank you
I am happy with the damage here obviously but does the breakdown look somewhat right for bleed build? It was a 13 priory
6’s are hilarious idk
I'm doing it wrong 
I noticed if I got a nice fat supercharged rupture and shivved
I did big dam
but 19% SD damage is crazy
I mean whisp has like
667
which is high gear for a 6
and thats why his Sudden Demise pops insanely
What build are you running where you have supercharger running? I know some people drop tea/vigor for it sometimes
yeah I dropped tea for it
that's fair, I guess I have barely even geared up past s1 ilvl at this point
I had this experience with arms too where I felt I was doing low dam and then I just geared up and it was fine 
need to stop looking at the numbers 
thats kinda how it works but yeah in low keys you need to leverage sudden demise to compete
Yeah cant compare 667 with 620
you know that supercharged rupture gives 0 direct dmg,right
its just more duration
That's relevant for SD no?
to be fair I was playing forced induction instead of thistle tea just to juice the shit out of sudden demise
or does it do literally the same damage just over a longer time?
which is 100% not correct
sure but its still only a dmg boost at the end of the pull
it's a 6 varas
It was a 6 every pull is immediately in end of pull range
Yeah context was low keys and I tried both FI and non-FI and get around the same damage
I'll just gear up more and re-evaluate
wrong, but fun
I popped a pack of mobs that were all at like 15% and it felt good
If we're multi specing is there a preference of focusing lens vs ascendance? Simming is about 0.2% either way so I guess it doesnt matter. Is one better on longer fights or cleave etc that would be worth considering? So far I've been running 1 of each haha
I just hate lens cause it's single target
very small effect yes
Is lens ppm capped so doesnt scale with target count?
im doing more damage than a boomie on rik... that is all
I mean is the proc rate capped. Ie certain amount per minute, doesnt matter how many targets you hit
yeah figured it was the case, ty
chicken jockey
hey guys, quick question: is there anything wrong with sudden demise? Feels a bit broken, in so far as that i have never witnessed it actually "executing" any mob recently...
have you got all your bleeds up on said mobs?
it's buggy as shit in delves/open world
world scaling makes sudden demise go insanely stupid
ok, but it works in m+?
yes
thx - was unsure because in M+ i don't have the mental capacity to actually track that, just noticed that it doesn't do shit in open world xD
fuck me, the change from Momentum of Despair to Follow the Blood is noticeable.
to your combo points? yep
did a couple of keys last night and noticed a signigicant jump
🤨 bro's noticing less than 1%
I dunno, in a big pull it's unusual that I end up getting less than 5CP from a FoK
I changed the talent and forgot about it immediately

wasn't 5% for me, maybe I have been doing it wrong previously?
whats there to do wrong
I'm doing fewer FoK than I otherwise would be, so a talent that affects FoK has less value
hey man if you gaslight yourself your 1 talent change was a significant jump, then great
My demisemaxxxing score soared
anyone have opinions on the least resource intensive wa pack? I've used luxthos forever and really like it, but it just feels like it churns through my frames
I've made my own, if you are interested :>
!wa
Is Dungeon Slice a good sim for us?
Lisonna's is good
I commented on sin's low ST dps in this key and this guy goes "my friend does a lot" and now I'm questioning my sanity
his friend does not do a lot
yes
yes it is
provided u wanna produce a model simulating m+
Narrator: His friend, does indeed, not do a lot.
Plot twist. It was an imaginary friend
Double plot twist: it was the realest of them all
Anyone else think shadowmeld is dumb
Also omg just checked in ht royal
Meld is great when u get subterfuge from it, aka 2% of the time 
Good morning ven, hope you're having an amazing start of a day
Sin does a lot of ST if you got adds to generate energy
Else its just really mid, better or worse depending on cd Timing
I don’t mean using it for stealth
I mean using it to skip mobs that you aren’t supposed to
Yeye gonna go workout in a sec
You are top shelf for me, even without energy
Aka something every group can do anyways
Because what are you even doing if you dont have a nelf dh tank or boomy
Stop flirting with my friend u vile creature
Shiba photobomb right now!
Yea I think it’s stupid
Because they gave those mobs true sight specifically to make them forced kills
And idk just skipping it with a racial of all things feels silly
The last big one
That’s fine
I flirt with everyone i want here
True sight is kinda stupid anyways, since it kinda killed shroud being fun
Tbh blizzard ain’t gonna do much abt it
Because they over did it
And maybe I’m just salty from PUG DHs trying to meld without telling anyone
😍
And I’ve lost multiple keys cause of it
They just run in, do the meld incorrectly and then blame the team
optimal way to use stix trinket? off cd, only during lingering or hold for 30 stacks?
Had someone try and skip the double hobgoblins in the left corridor on cinderbrew
They literally
Man pulled them into the entire party
You burn them all during lingering
Ye its fucking stupid
Because it just killed a reason to bring a rogue
Like
Uhm akyually if every mwob had twueseite stealf would be useless 🤓 👆
And fucking up the BM opener
Somehow
Don’t forget that
Shroud is to screw over your BM hunters assuming the bug still exists
And to gather the ghosts in top easier for example
So minor things
Only reason I use it in raid
Tbh I don’t think it does anymore
Fuck the BM
But how did it even happen
Why even live
Yea fuck me I need more action anyway
Who cares about hunters in the first place
Yo could probably fuck and parse 99s on Bm at the same time
Fuck BM Hunters
If I can't screw up the hunter then why do I even play the game
73.185.234.90
I care about Survival
Based
The true Hunter spec
Also based
All I need for survival is you

Imagine people still saying germans know nothing about love
And dont show emotions
Guten Morgen
Guten Morgen mein Freund. Wie geht es Ihnen?
We show them
Sehr gut, ich habe gerade ein schmackhaftes Mettbrötchen verzehrt, und ihnen werter Kollege?
how good is haste for us after mastery?
SAP
is it a banger stat?
yes my man shoot
I wish parses didn't exist on HC reclears my guild just goes full parse mode and fucks us
Sap
I WAS PARSING 99 ON A FUCKING 0.8% WIPE
We fucking wiped 6 times on gally HC
Do you wann hear something funny
aint no way u lost this
Easy
yup
No parse only mechanics
hunter gaming
shoot babe
I played Survival yesterday on Gally HC, pressed Coordinated Assault and pressed W
i died
Because of the hole
Das freut mich sehr. Ich habe mir einen Proteinshake und ein Gouda-Brötchen zu Gemüte geführt, dementsprechend auch bestens, danke der Nachfrage.
That’s just hunter brain no?
The hole in the middle?
When you play hunter you lose IQ
i accidently blinked in that hole on my mage
Yes
Why think when after me is smart
and died to standing on zappin' areas coz cba moving
becasue Coordinated Assault charges you to the enemy
But ye idk just do mechanics and ignore the parse, throwing a bomb in the pit ain't gonna kill you
Our BDK fell down that twice last night
Again just do both

Also a good one
BM life
Also on the big aoe where you shadowstep and it just turns you around
Can somehow carry the bomb and shoot my bow
That one is glorious
Maybe my rats are carrying them
I was, tell that to the 50% of the raid team who, after 6 wipes, had ZERO FUCKING BOMBS PICKED UP
I Remember raszageth
where you shadowstepped
and when the Boss turned for whatever reason
it was yeeting time
yup its 
Easy just fuck them in the ass
Thatl show them
If I could shove them down the pit in the middle I would have
in intermission 1, i stepped on the boss when it appeared mid air behind me and the hitbox covered my entire screen
Omg does anyone remember the dude in sub rogue chat that made a song with her voice in it
Was fucking amazing
No I was exclusively sinning
idk was pretty frontloaded
Like P1 and Intermssion 1
And even if I play sub I am always in here
Holy shit it’s this
And Gul Dan
Wait that worked
Imagine how much time he must have spend on that
Legend
The one he made about our other rogue said something like "the eternal number two behind Dom"
Dom is me
Dom a Family man
Also kinda wanna go back to Assa for some at fun but I wanna push on my hunter and maybe even try a bit of destro
Thats why I'm always in here
I miss brainrotted envenom spam
!fuu
god i need my balls tortured
gz my man
Im free from the HoC prison on sin
Had mythic signet yesterday
So I only suffer in heroic HoC prison on sub
Waiting for the mythic one to come
i got a song about my rogue aswell, pretty funny because his name is mettmeister
ai songs are pretty funny
Ok and?
I mean I find Assa as easy as BM rota wise
this guy kekw
Tbh it felt easier cause I didn’t have to worry about my defs as much
Just press feint and you most likely won’t die
Then again prolly cause I played it for like all of S1 and shit but idk
Oh yea isn’t bleed like better now or is it still hybrid
i mean blizzard knows the drill
Cause I remember Whispyr making a new thing on it
Idk, playing bm optimally is probably the easiest thing ever, even easier than ret and fury
Ye bleed is better
Oof
Not saying BM isn’t piss easy
Just personally, in my opinion I think Assa is either as easy/easier than BM just due to surving atm
I feel a lot safer as Assa than BM
Also sin has two different difficulties, its arguably straightforward in raids, but its definitely on the harder side to play optimally in m+
Fairs
Also this season is much more melee unfriendly
So I get what ya mean
Anyway my opinion sways a lot so I’ll prolly think differently like the next day
No oof, bleed is fun
I mean I say Oof as if they have wildly different rotas
I was hesitant about trying it because I am resistant to change but ye, it slaps
God this is me
For me
Changing is super difficult
Even if it’s a minor change
The concept of changing it makes me super anxious and stuff
Maybe it’s an autism thing but idk
Is that why you went BM hunter, for the emotional support rats
I mean ye same for me probs
I like doing the same thing every day routinely. Even if it means nothing
Like every work day for the past like few months
I always go to the same potion poolside for the first hour
Even though I know the other 2 options and 1 is much easier
I’m just used to going to that place
Lmao true
But Yeye maybe I can get a wa to track the CDs of my homies so I can play build
Cause it’s prolly a good idea to shiv when they use their CDs most likely
I send it when they send so I can steal their damage with demise
Maybe I could try MM
Seen ES hit for 20 mil or higher
Payback for S1 and them blowing up my deathmark mob
Haha
Yea
Tbh I am missing feint
Like when someone tell me to lust I either lose dmg mid pull or risk being squishier
Feint good though it feels a little bit bad in raid single target build
Because god damn is my energy regen fucked
Tbh the other hunter hero tree had goated defs
Worth it not to die
Like I don’t miss the rota but I miss the defensive
But also, I would like to hit a damage button please
TLDR: when you used survival of the fittest you would use exhilaration and vice versa
It felt so nice
So your damage shield would come w a heal and heal would come w a damage shield
That sounds alright. Sometimes I feel a bit stuck defensive wise on rogue. Like if it's a non-feintable ability and cloak/evasion is down it's just... OKAY THEN
I should run elusiveness but cheat death feels safe
Because I know what I'm like and I don't trust myself
Sry mag frost will be better on aoe m+ and st raid or rogue assa?
what
I always run elusive in keys
Fuck it imma try bleed
The problem is getting alts geared
Once you have good score you can just mash stuff like you do on your main
bleed fun
Ye I got my druid to 660 without too many issues
wait should you reforge hast crit on item ? why does my crit literrally goes last stat on sim weight in dj slice as well :/
The SIM works in mysterious ways
I nearly had a subconsciou reaction of "caustic should behigher"
But i forget bleed
EZ. Don’t play alts
cause its not as good
probably cause envenom isnt as strong -> being able to do fok into envenom reliably isnt as important
in aoe
True
Bleed is life
Guys i'm hella confused why archon is saying that the overall top parses on assa rogue is putting haste as the lowest stat when its simming crazy good?
imagine switching from sub and beating all the natives 😄
sub trully the master race 😄
youre acting as if playing assa is some rocket science
rogues adept and flexible to play every spec. hnnnnng. 
I play sin because who tf has 2 sets of eyes to watch a weak aura and avoid 9,000 mechanics simultaneously. Maybe its the 35 y/o in me
mechanics are for ranged. slam boss.
Ive just read this... and idk. I just see so many ppl in High Keys not playing this Talents in M+. They just play like the "old" Bleed Build or am i missing something?
I cant really follow this logic tbh. Can somebody explain?
😏
i swapped to ww before i changed to sub
green rogue
I say this ironically of course when I was on bird duty in Firelands/add tank on Nefarian, and the hero runner for bell on the blind dragon boy
because its just a different build. with different damage breakdown
What my 3% haste gearset is preventing me from playing assa? 
takes time for things to propogate out as well, people just don't all instantly switch overnight
hax
GUyssss I hgave 12% haste is this too much?!
no one plays rogue anyways. I swear half the people in the sub channel have the wrong gems in circlet
hey
ur so real for that
also most played builds are a popularity contest which is usually heavily influenced by streamers. if casual swapped to bleed youd see how fast it changes
why u outing us like that

wait we dont play kingsbane on m+ right now?

its just there r too many of those gems
kingsbane used to be the most fun and thematic spell assa had
@spice surge cook up a raid bleed build please and thank you.
Now it's demise
Very fun and just executing a target, very assassin like
I always thought the killshot mechanics since blindside were thematic of an "assassin." kingsbane is lore shi from Garona.
So the posted Build is the way to go for best results atm? Idk it just feels crazy to drop Kingsbane for example 😄 and dragon tempered blades and poison bomb u know 😄 and we just play single target like we would do with the other build and just dont have kingsbane? it seems crazy 😄
Single target we use crimson tempest, but ye no kingsbane but we take blindside and zoldyck
its envenom the Spec
More like kingsbane feels crappy to press
nah i said it seems not that it is 😉
truth told I miss when blindside was baseline to all sin builds.
play it and come to your own conclusions
dont be a sheep and blindly follow everything
I hate having to give something up to get something I love.
play whatever you like
what
kingsbane literally does less dmg then a DN envenom
maybe you like being an caustic spatter bot with kingsbane
So WW monk?
i didnt like play ww yesterday
i mostly didnt want to play at all
sub run out?
But in Raid we still play Kingsbane, no?
3 more weeks...
ye
yes bleed is purely a m+ thing
ok ill give it a try 😉 how is our ST compared to the old build?
Higher
same
Better
faster
Or ye like +1%
stronger
So mostly same
so ST same/better and AoE just better? 😄
its not simply just better
theres differences where your damage is
one is frontloaded
one is backloaded
its a different build with different talents

can you put a load on my back 
i only have 7,01% Haste... is it too low for that build?
I have 4%
For the uneducated: Since forever.
For the educated. Never
Assa wants to aim for High Mastery and then Crit then Haste from my perspective and after that vers... i dont want to have high vers like a sub rogue... or why i cant see assa rogues with high vers or low crit or like whatever 😄 so ofc we do care a bit about the direction of our stats
I just stick items in SIM and equip if number is bigger
Life is easy
y thats correct
but low crit for example feels horrible cause in a lot of cases it is an extra button in the opener in ST 😄
mastery is damage, crit is damage, haste is damage, vers is damage, agi is damage
its all damage nothing matters
Ask the robot, it knows all
Ok why there is no high ranked assa with Vers/Haste as best stats? i dont get it if we just dont care about stats u know? 😛 that makes no sense to me 😄
Because some stats are worth 0.5 dps more than the others 😄
Ok 😄
Theres practically no vers+haste items this season
I was mostly trolling with that comment btw 😄
Praise our robot overlords, who in their benevolence have imparted unto us a holy tool - A tool that instructs us on all things DPS

explain why all of this gear has vers and haste then, including the crafted gear having vers and the ring having haste then
also he's playing a bleed build
reading up on the conversation
unless world #7 isn't a "high ranked assa"
i guess its because he main sub
Whispyr, you're telling me, for the 999x time, stats barely matter in the end of the day??
so he dont craft 2 neck
one crit/mastery
one versa/mastery
i do same
that not mean its better
Shin is always a sin player, right? I have vers/mastery gear because I came from sub
Y'all overrate stats too much
They rather play outlaw
literally you cant do a key above 15 without perfect stats
you dont care. the sim cares. you sim
Only truth i know that Stats dont matter, but you matter a lot to me
If it's varas saying this I agree
holy fucking cope man
If you don't have whispyrs full bis list equipped I'm not inviting you to my +10 key
Sim EPeen is important don’t ya know
insert romantic music
you all would do more dps matching whispyr’s hair color vs worrying so much about your secondary stats.
How much of a DPS gain is dying my hair though
5%
Are you still playing sub in keys?
Not enough
"high ranked assa doesn't have vers or haste"
here's high ranked assa with vers and haste
"okay but he's a sub main"
he only plays it in theater, hasn't done a different push key on sub in over a week
I do his hair colour in 40 years
you right, lets go full haste/versa!
what else we got
Yeah but I only do weeklies so it doesn't matter what I play
move the goal posts again
I'm ready
I got nothing to lose
it's 3:40am
fuck it
what other cope we got
+200% since it forces you to 
hahahaa, touché
Bleed build rogue is just a shaved feral druid so it doesn't count
people worry about stats when they should worry about dodging a frontal or standing in range to autoattack the boss 
+202% if you have correct circlet gems
Let me think.... Oh right, WHISPYR!! I can totally feel 7% haste vs 12%
Restealth matters in bleed build because you only Do bleeds
"he logged out in sub gear for that key"
it's a verified key, they ran with the addon
I can shave a cat and put a jacket on it and go, "behold, a rogue"
what else can we come up with
yeah bro we all know the people pushing early in the season are also the people you should follow 100% and nobody else matters
no but bro shindig is main sub
he wont swap mastery/crit on neck
for assa
I'm pretty sure outlaw also likes vers and haste. So could he be a closeted outlaw main?
its work too

but its probably not better
it's like talking to a brick wall
its kinda nice that i can pretty much have the same gear for assa and sub with just switichng some ring to play sub if im forced to do it in raid
Surely playing Vers to survive mechanics instead of doing dam 
It's really cool that you can use whatever and still blast though.
didn't I just say
My neck is haste crit because it simmed higher /shrug I do what bot tells me
dont tell this guy you can just play with a disc priest and never take damage
If I don't take damage how will I get a high healing parse though?
Spec Outlaw, press KS on Cauldron
I give my party mass panic attacks on big momma and sludgman in floodgate with KS 😄
Stat weights 
I thought sub was vers/mast
maybe you are not secret sub main not doing sub keys
like shindig?
buff offhands
The sim wants me to stack versatility now so I just do what it says.
you're probably actually an outlaw player from 2 expansions ago
Hahaha
Mf stacking crit+vers so skarn bomba trinket does more damage
I think last time I played combat for any extended period of time was HArP build
Tried another spec, assassination purity tainted, doesn't count
we need to follow our robot overlords 
The ideal key is trio of OTP rogues each on their best spec.
Combat > oUtLaW
We only have 2 specs mate
2 specs and a mistake
and a fury warrior with a gun then
Do we have any tips to do high damage from demise ? I did average about 4-5%
doesn’t seem sudden enough
If you ever get called out for sending shivs purely for demise, just lie and say that you're maximising shiv with zoldycks
Because it's true but I'm purely aiming for demise here
It isn't padding it's optimal play
I need one of you MFs to run bleeder on rik and see how quickly you can pad / blow up the adds.
Nah I run bleed on Rik purely to demise mind controlled allies
Barrels are an afterthought
also acceptable
How else are you going to train the raid to not get mind controlled
kidney
If it needs to die, it ain't pad
- Ret main
teammate gets mindcontrolled?
Vanish sap, cheap shot, marked for death kidney, dance, rupture evis blind the healer cheap shot
Nah the lesson isn't harsh enough
ret players spamming divine storm the second 2 pixels of a second enemy appears in their field of vision:
We had some add problems on rik at the start of the saison. I looked at logs and noticed that our furry warry refused to press whirlwind on that boss and played PURE SINGLETARGET
i normaly liked them but i had to keep my cool to not flame the hell out of them. Always thought they had the same retri mindset. 2 healthbars = aoe lets go
On HC our warrior had less barrel damage than a healer
same on our mystic kill 
and i got forced on sub because the adds didnt die 

"boomkin, you did less dmg on the barrels then Holy Word:Chastise" was my favorite drop from the RL
Warrior got bullied and we ended up killing it with 2 sins and a fire mage so it's fine
wait you fire mage did dmg to them? What dark magic is that....
Does the Cinderbrew neck actually exist cuz im bout tohave 2 crafted daggers and a crafted neck.....
yes
2 crafted daggers is unfortunate
I guess game is waiting for me to kill Rik on myth to give me bis one
i crafted one and the other I got from the hidden trove in the first week
(as in crafting the second dagger was a bad choice since its the worst slot, crafting anyhting else wouldve been a better choice)
Nah me, the other sin and the fire mage did poor add damage but the others did it
guys does this message matter
Yes
Doesn't matter if you don't read it 
I CANT READ YOU FUCKER
Woah, agi is your worst stat. Gotta drop ilevel for crit
O shit mastery no longer bis fucking drop that shit now
omg where can I find a chest item with weapon stat
See that your stat values are really close, so, they tend to fluctuate a lot and it can change with a single piece of gear
Nah mastery bad I've seen the numbers now
You mastery sheep can't indoctrinate me any more
I'm free
Crit > Haste > Vers > Mastery is the new play
Nahh Versa>=Crit> Haste >>Mastery
I need crit
link stat weights or I don't believe you
Drop agility equip strength

Agi fucking worthless
Stamina is most important stat cause being dead is a massive DPS loss
Real and true
I had two vaults ago but forced myself to take priory trinket and the fucking dagger did not drop from 5 riks kill
I hate being forced into taking signet
Yo pawn? 
stat weight
is 100% feelscraft
I sometimes sim it to see what's up
I sim weights, then change a piece of gear, sim again and realise I don't know why the fuck I did it
Crit mastery > vers haste so I equipped a 200 ilvl item from transmog runs
Guys don't forget to craft your shoulders, it's approved by me
woah, u r RL in ur raid team, arent u? 😄
Why you think so
cause u got it all 😄
Can't be forced into taking signet if your vault never gives you signet
That's the actual play
Italicized quotations throughout are from my old raid leader Sebudai, well-known for his efforts to teach his raiders to be better at playing WoW. I’ve written many WoW guides over the past years, largely covering the details of min/maxing a particular class, but I always knew I was addressing a narrow slice of what makes a good raider. While...
that shoulder craft hurts my eyes lowkey
From all items you can see i got only bracers from raid
juicy
u got jasper in vault???
No, it's champ warbound drop
that's the arathi shoulder
I had one at start of S1
Cos I had 4 set but never got a fucking shoulder drop so I sent it
and Kezan?
Tier shoulders are so nicely statted
It was best upgrade i can get and by time we leave progress i will have another two crafts ready probably:D ( no longer reclearing)
Kezan was my first vault
first boss even drops shoulders for you to catalyze
dude u lucky af 😄
I cringe so fucking hard crafting crit mastery over crit mastery
like at this point what else would you use a spark on I guess
outlaw/sub gear KEKW
Transmog
die
you use last seasons sparks for that
based
Don't tell me what to do 
sup goat
baaaaaaa
now I'm gonna do it even more, go to your room after you've finished your vegetables!
Next craft probably cloak since it's hero track, can't wait will be juice 0.5% gain maybe
What vegetables we talking?
hmmm, brokkoli and brussel spouts, fried with bacon withs and almond splinters
brocockli
You can keep the sprouts but broccoli, bacon, almonds sounds goated
how close are you guys on mug'zee?
had 6hrs so far, got to the prisons in p2 once
Stream when
literally first boss i raided this tier

Nice vids @balmy condor ty 😘
bigger number better person
ye
pure skill too as usual
higher rio = bigger penis too
ty
mine has shrunk considerably since i stopped pushing keys
Question, i got already two crafted pieces(weapon and boots), i was thinking of crafting wrists and maybe ring. Can i add another dawnthread to the wrist? or it wont work since i already have 1 in the boots?
this bleed build is quite pumping indeed, and i find smoother to play.
is there anychance to find a more mono target bleed build for raid, especially Lib of undermine is mostly multitarget ?
You can do 2x dawn
why do potatoes grow roots so fucking fast man
they crash economies fast too
Oh nice. Thanks. So the limit is 2 of every emb?
No. You re limited to 2 total
no bleed build is not a raid build and cant be
Hello, do you recommend using Dungeon Slice for M+ in SimulationCraft?
yes!
bought them 3 days ago and theyre already going crazy
What type?
Have you ever heard Rhubarb being forced?
id say depeneds a lot on the storage, i guess its very humid
mad cause bad
i have 0 potato knowledge
Ok. So since i got the Blessed weapon grip and 1 dawn i cant have another emb?
So for my 3rd craft i need to do it without emb right?
Thanks @subtle kiln . Gotta put my order then 🙂
Ye, I live right near the rhubarb triangle
With the sheds
nice, dead next raid then
surely
since i have 0 luck with vault raid and M+, do you think it's cringe to craft a 2d wep ?

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