#assassination

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haughty flicker
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so just refresh in pandemic

stable cove
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kk

balmy condor
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My favorite

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“Trust me it’s better”

vague raft
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begone discord demon

fleet pagoda
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mutilate the adds at low health to proc blindside instead

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🧠

vague raft
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oh fuck true

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that's actually big tech

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i haven't even done that yet and we're fucking 150 pulls deep

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lmao

upper wraith
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First 2 mythic bosses down with guild and we chillin on top of meter dorkiSmirk

fleet pagoda
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might be terrible. repot back kekw

vague raft
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I'll give it a whirl Monday lmao

balmy condor
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What the fuck am I reading

fleet pagoda
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a congregation of geniuses at work

solar wyvern
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Mutilate the boss for boss dps > 15% more chance to blindside

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Hmmmmm

fleet pagoda
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we got this

dreamy rover
balmy condor
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Big fan

thorn thorn
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Are we spreading misinformation

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I love doing that

solar wyvern
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Im actually not sure if rupturing the shielded drones on mugzee is correct, surely its not right? The rupture isn't doing damage but you are getting energy back

dreamy rover
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yhea if you stand on the goon cage's corner and shadowstep into someone close to it you'll get out of it

balmy condor
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During the race I come up with something, they do it for like 0.3% gain, I get told I don’t know anything cause I’m not progging the actual fight

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Then later people cook some demon shit that no one does and I once again don’t know anything

solar wyvern
balmy condor
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I mean dotting the adds can be a small gain

nova kelp
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Stay in your lane Whispyr, that's what people are saying

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lol

balmy condor
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But we’re talking indistinguishable unless you’re doing >2500 pulls

solar wyvern
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Small adds as in rocketeers, drones, or bombs?

drifting cloud
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its big gains tho

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you get to stop dps earlier

solar wyvern
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True xd

balmy condor
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Like bombs are fine to rupture if you’re getting 25 seconds of rupture out of it

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And then gg Grats on 0.2%

solar wyvern
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I see i see. So my intuition was incorrect then

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Good to know

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.2% is .2% hehe

balmy condor
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I mean your intuition was more correct than it was wrong

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It’s very easy to just rupture random mobs and not get the damage back

nova kelp
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Don't trust your gut, your gut is a moron.

thorn thorn
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Thinking is a dps loss

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Turn brain off and crank

solar wyvern
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Yeah in m+ i assume 12ish seconds for rupture value

thorn thorn
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If you think you know better

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You dont

balmy condor
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Realistically you can try to optimize it for 0.2%, fuck it up, and then lose 0.4% instead

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So if your intuition says “probably not worth”

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Probably good

dreamy rover
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thats literally me all day

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trying to implement these rotation optimizations

balmy condor
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Always err on the side of “probably not worth”

thorn thorn
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Reminder that nothing matters on this spec

grand trail
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Only thing which matter is having fun

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And crafting shoulders

fleet pagoda
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don't think i'd want to be in melee range of bombs anyways monkahmm

balmy condor
grand trail
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Yeah that's me after running 100 sims on my craft/ vault update

vague raft
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Smart people can tell you it’s not, but I’m telling you it is

nova kelp
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idk about you guys but my rupture is GIGANTIC dps

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absolutely grenormous

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yuge even

thorn thorn
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Idk about yall but my rupture does all its dam in 3 seconds

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Simply an issue of skill

nova kelp
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what an oddly formed man

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that guy clearly plays warrior

rotund oak
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u mean dh or outlaw

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normal ppl can play warrior

thorn thorn
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I think our definition if normal is different

distant plinth
low thicket
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4 buttons and they are always lit up

spice spire
rotund oak
balmy condor
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Assassination is legit melee bm hunter in raids atm and we still find ways to overthink it

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Top notch stuff

spice spire
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Huh?

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Checkmate bozo

rotund oak
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its the outlaws lingering essence,slowly fading

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in this channel

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i think another sub buff would do

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they would leave this place completely

boreal radish
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I'm not gonna lie. I'm just here so I stop killing myself with Killing Spree

rotund oak
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called it 3 months ago^^

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deathparsing pirate

nova kelp
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"if I have no HO proc, and am below 3 pistol shots, but under 30 nrg, with 14 seconds left on my adr, technically it's best to use shiv instead of sinister so long as I use it within the next global. Using a perfect rotation this should occur ever 3:22 seconds

This should account for approx a .003% gain! This should be in the guide"

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those outlaw cooks are fucking WILD

distant plinth
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Gotta minmax duuuude

nova kelp
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I'm reading the channel on occasion thinking like
there is no realm of existence in which my eyes could look at all those factors inside of a global let alone process and perform it

boreal radish
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You get used to it

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Sin feels like my keyboard is covered in mud

rotund oak
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i used to do it,its ok,its just the mindset and toxicity thats unbearable

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why the F should you ever live in such environment

nova kelp
boreal radish
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I appreciate it. I need help with what to run in ToP. Bleed build seemed pretty bad (for that dungeon, not in general). Do I play hybrid?

nova kelp
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but I do feel you, the specs are so diametrically opposed

nova kelp
rotund oak
nova kelp
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ToP is just kinda shit, but yeah I agree, Sub is the play there

boreal radish
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Ah. K guess I'll learn that next

nova kelp
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Sub is the happy and yet still depressed medium between ninja and pirate

rotund oak
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sub doesnt rly have outlaw traits at all

nova kelp
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you have a few seconds of nothing, followed by a flurry of everything everywhere all at once

rotund oak
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nor sin

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its completely unique

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idk what u boys ar eon

nova kelp
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just talking apm

rotund oak
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ah eh

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idk about apm

nova kelp
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sub is like 2 apm for a bit, then 4394939843762 apm foor a bit

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then 2 again for a bit

rotund oak
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sub is all about knowing everything and planning ahead

nova kelp
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I'm ngl though, inc scorching take:
I
miss
shadowdust

rotund oak
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it can be very

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challenging

cyan surge
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Quick and maybe stupid question. Does wound poison work on reducing the Yes Man heal?

nova kelp
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Yes Man?

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we profesional wrestling up in here?

cyan surge
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The last 4 mobs in cinderbrew.

nova kelp
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HELL YEAH BROTHER

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oh, I somehow doubt it

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but I can't say I've tried at all

balmy condor
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I haven’t tried it but I believe someone said it did

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Idk if that got fixed or not though

nova kelp
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I kinda didn't really think of it as a "heal"

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more like a condition / activation dealio

haughty flicker
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It worked when I did it but without improved wound poison it was a bit ass

red schooner
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What if Demise gets them all at the same time though

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Is this the strat

haughty flicker
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It’s probably possible

thorn thorn
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And people overthink that

haughty flicker
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Idk how feasible it is though

red schooner
balmy condor
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But good like getting it to actually trigger

red schooner
haughty flicker
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You could probably get it to work on two relatively easy with some coordination

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But idk I haven’t tried it so don’t know how hard it would actually be

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I just fucking full aoe then when I get called out I say it’s funnel

haughty flicker
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Doesn’t matter the class either

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Press starfall on that shit

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No ethics

thorn thorn
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Starfall being funnel

thorn thorn
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Im floridian

spice spire
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(Slur)

turbid sandal
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We hold House of Cards for Deathmark, right?

snow hamlet
balmy condor
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Everything getting way more expensive but at least my bowling teammate is 70k down on their 401k

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I feel so liberated

thorn thorn
subtle tundra
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AWOOOGAAAAAAA

rotund oak
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murica

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f@ck yeah

steel ridge
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with this pingpong going on i am not sure if i am broke or rich

rotund oak
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prolly the first

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that applies even when u think u are rich

steel ridge
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more likely scenario

haughty flicker
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its ok you wont need money when you get drafted for the greenland wars

cerulean nest
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anyone have a dM mark border for plater?

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the WA im using is super resource heavy for some reason

steel ridge
rotund oak
steel ridge
haughty flicker
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i mean denmark is in nato

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and we may not be soon lmao

rotund oak
dreamy rover
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does anyone know how remove this text when i get close to objects?? It used to be the interact icons but I installed a UI package and it fucked it up

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the "S.C.R.A.P. Heap" text

steel ridge
dreamy rover
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another example

steel ridge
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i am pretty sure russia has some nukes, but i wouldnt bet any money its "the most" or even "most powerful"

rotund oak
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it has slightly more

dreamy rover
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poggies

steel ridge
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ye i know those "tierlists"

dreamy rover
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those nukes wont even go off

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old ass

steel ridge
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even IF those nukes would go off

rotund oak
steel ridge
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i bet the USA has the more modern means of deployment... the tech advantage is staggering

rotund oak
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true U.S has definitely more advanced technology

dreamy rover
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yhea, thats the point

steel ridge
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i mean, strategic weapons aside... the F35 is nuclear warhead capable and has the radar footprint of a golf ball... those things can enter enemy airspace and detonate shit and be long gone before the person who got sudden demised even realised they were there...

rotund oak
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its not like russians or anyone doesnt know they cant war with that

dreamy rover
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you can have a bunch of nukes, but if you dont have advanced bombers it'll be useless

rotund oak
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thats why they press the big red button

haughty flicker
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im sure the fact that we got the first strike will really feel good in the nuclear winter that follows

steel ridge
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if any nuclear weapon is used, it will be smaller tactical warheads with smaller fallout radius

dreamy rover
steel ridge
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the use of strategic nuclear weapons will certainly destroy almost all life on this planet 😄

dreamy rover
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hard reset

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let the fucking plants live idk

steel ridge
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but the more modern weapons are more like nuclear scalpels

rotund oak
steel ridge
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just blowing up one block instead of an entire city

rotund oak
dreamy rover
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i click on your profile and this is what i see

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are you sponsored?

steel ridge
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not sponsored, just different

rotund oak
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no but im a bigboi in raid,doing all highend content

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included pvp

steel ridge
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special needs

dreamy rover
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lol is it actually good?

rotund oak
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yo im slacking off on my laptop while waiting for work toa rrive

dreamy rover
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never even seen 1 frame of actual gameplay

rotund oak
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what do u want me to do

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yeah its fine

lethal lynx
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Does my damage just get cucked in low keys (like 6s and under)? I'm gearing my rogue and I keep just doing awful damage especially if there's someone overgeared PainChamp

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I was pumping in the 2s though COPIUM

subtle tundra
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play bleed build

lethal lynx
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I am aware

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maybe it's my scuffed 645/619 weapons

subtle tundra
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sure it isnt optimal but not the reason your dps is bad
i also dont know what you mean by awful damage

rotund oak
lethal lynx
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parsing like 50 and below, granted there's just not a lot of parses in these low keys and I'm undergeared

rotund oak
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you can craft 2 wpns right now 658

subtle tundra
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parses in keys are not a real thing

rotund oak
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619 is worse than open world content

lethal lynx
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I did get punched by the 3rd boss and die instantly though ICANT

lethal lynx
latent grove
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if crafting a chest I'd want to go with rune-branded tunic right?

rotund oak
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then u craft boots with writhing

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and then whatever u want

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those two are obligatory for progress

lethal lynx
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yeah my 645 is crafted with ascension but I haven't recrafted it yet since I figured I could just wait til I'm getting gilded crests

rotund oak
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well u can upgrade it to 658

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and then recraft it again

slate crown
rotund oak
grave eagle
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do i cast ambush to proc deathstalkers mark in my m+ opener for bleed build?

rotund oak
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!guide

red schooner
rotund oak
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bot is sleeping

red schooner
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Then just go for garrotte and get a big DN envenom off before it expires

grave eagle
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ok thank you

dreamy rover
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!wa

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moroes still dead huh @prisma monolith

red schooner
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Which one of you killed him?

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Admit it

serene solar
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I am happy with the damage here obviously but does the breakdown look somewhat right for bleed build? It was a 13 priory

lethal lynx
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I'm doing it wrong PES4_FlowerPensive

quiet oar
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Bleed build

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is legit infinite DPS

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its illegal

lethal lynx
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I noticed if I got a nice fat supercharged rupture and shivved

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I did big dam

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but 19% SD damage is crazy

quiet oar
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I mean whisp has like

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667

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which is high gear for a 6

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and thats why his Sudden Demise pops insanely

red schooner
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What build are you running where you have supercharger running? I know some people drop tea/vigor for it sometimes

lethal lynx
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yeah I dropped tea for it

lethal lynx
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I had this experience with arms too where I felt I was doing low dam and then I just geared up and it was fine ICANT

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need to stop looking at the numbers PES4_FlowerPensive

buoyant herald
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thats kinda how it works but yeah in low keys you need to leverage sudden demise to compete

quiet oar
subtle tundra
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its just more duration

lethal lynx
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That's relevant for SD no?

balmy condor
lethal lynx
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or does it do literally the same damage just over a longer time?

balmy condor
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which is 100% not correct

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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it's a 6 varas

red schooner
subtle tundra
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who fking knows what type of demons there are

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in that key

lethal lynx
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Yeah context was low keys and I tried both FI and non-FI and get around the same damage

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I'll just gear up more and re-evaluate

lethal lynx
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I popped a pack of mobs that were all at like 15% and it felt good

balmy condor
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yeah that's just regular sudden demise

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FI demise was like 25% KEKW

dusky vault
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If we're multi specing is there a preference of focusing lens vs ascendance? Simming is about 0.2% either way so I guess it doesnt matter. Is one better on longer fights or cleave etc that would be worth considering? So far I've been running 1 of each haha

balmy condor
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I just hate lens cause it's single target

quiet oar
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Embelishments are literally whatever

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They dont even scale with ilvl right?

buoyant herald
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very small effect yes

dusky vault
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Is lens ppm capped so doesnt scale with target count?

balmy condor
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dog what

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in the word salad

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it's a single target effect

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it hits 1 target

pure moth
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im doing more damage than a boomie on rik... that is all

dusky vault
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I mean is the proc rate capped. Ie certain amount per minute, doesnt matter how many targets you hit

balmy condor
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I mean

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yeah

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that's just every effect

dusky vault
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yeah figured it was the case, ty

subtle tundra
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chicken jockey

brazen tide
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hey guys, quick question: is there anything wrong with sudden demise? Feels a bit broken, in so far as that i have never witnessed it actually "executing" any mob recently...

buoyant herald
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have you got all your bleeds up on said mobs?

balmy condor
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it's buggy as shit in delves/open world

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world scaling makes sudden demise go insanely stupid

brazen tide
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ok, but it works in m+?

balmy condor
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yes

brazen tide
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thx - was unsure because in M+ i don't have the mental capacity to actually track that, just noticed that it doesn't do shit in open world xD

iron vapor
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fuck me, the change from Momentum of Despair to Follow the Blood is noticeable.

grim jay
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What did it do to you

subtle tundra
iron vapor
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did a couple of keys last night and noticed a signigicant jump

subtle tundra
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🤨 bro's noticing less than 1%

iron vapor
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I dunno, in a big pull it's unusual that I end up getting less than 5CP from a FoK

grim jay
iron vapor
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wasn't 5% for me, maybe I have been doing it wrong previously?

subtle tundra
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whats there to do wrong

iron vapor
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I do tend to refresh CS early a lot of the time

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so more mutilates and fewer FoK

subtle tundra
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what

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what 5%
what does cs have to do with those two talents

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what

iron vapor
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I'm doing fewer FoK than I otherwise would be, so a talent that affects FoK has less value

subtle tundra
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hey man if you gaslight yourself your 1 talent change was a significant jump, then great

cerulean nest
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anyone have opinions on the least resource intensive wa pack? I've used luxthos forever and really like it, but it just feels like it churns through my frames

grim jay
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Whispyrs feels fine to me

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Potentially base afenars

brazen tide
tall jay
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!wa

lethal lynx
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Is Dungeon Slice a good sim for us?

night cipher
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I'm Devlin one fan

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so yeah, try them all 😄

lethal lynx
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I commented on sin's low ST dps in this key and this guy goes "my friend does a lot" and now I'm questioning my sanity

haughty flicker
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his friend does not do a lot

quiet oar
rotund oak
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provided u wanna produce a model simulating m+

normal mist
night cipher
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Plot twist. It was an imaginary friend

normal mist
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Double plot twist: it was the realest of them all

warm vortex
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Anyone else think shadowmeld is dumb

warm vortex
regal cloud
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Meld is great when u get subterfuge from it, aka 2% of the time Surebud

normal mist
grim jay
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Else its just really mid, better or worse depending on cd Timing

warm vortex
warm vortex
quiet oar
warm vortex
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P sure my 99 parse on gally got locked in

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But idk

grim jay
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Because what are you even doing if you dont have a nelf dh tank or boomy

rotund oak
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Shiba photobomb right now!

warm vortex
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Yea I think it’s stupid
Because they gave those mobs true sight specifically to make them forced kills

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And idk just skipping it with a racial of all things feels silly

grim jay
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You also can skip many of those by just running

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Like in top

grim jay
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The last big one

warm vortex
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That’s fine

quiet oar
grim jay
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True sight is kinda stupid anyways, since it kinda killed shroud being fun

warm vortex
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Tbh blizzard ain’t gonna do much abt it

grim jay
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Because they over did it

warm vortex
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And maybe I’m just salty from PUG DHs trying to meld without telling anyone

warm vortex
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And I’ve lost multiple keys cause of it

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They just run in, do the meld incorrectly and then blame the team

ruby moss
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optimal way to use stix trinket? off cd, only during lingering or hold for 30 stacks?

warm vortex
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Had someone try and skip the double hobgoblins in the left corridor on cinderbrew

quiet oar
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They literally

warm vortex
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Man pulled them into the entire party

quiet oar
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gave every mob

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Truesight

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so skipping is almost never an option

grim jay
grim jay
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Because it just killed a reason to bring a rogue

quiet oar
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Like

warm vortex
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Uhm akyually if every mwob had twueseite stealf would be useless 🤓 👆

quiet oar
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Shourd is only used for speed now

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as sub

warm vortex
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Somehow

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Don’t forget that

red schooner
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Shroud is to screw over your BM hunters assuming the bug still exists

grim jay
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So minor things

red schooner
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Only reason I use it in raid

warm vortex
red schooner
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Fuck the BM

warm vortex
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But how did it even happen

red schooner
warm vortex
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Yea fuck me I need more action anyway

grim jay
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Who cares about hunters in the first place

warm vortex
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Yo could probably fuck and parse 99s on Bm at the same time

quiet oar
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Fuck BM Hunters

red schooner
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If I can't screw up the hunter then why do I even play the game

warm vortex
quiet oar
warm vortex
quiet oar
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The true Hunter spec

warm vortex
grim jay
warm vortex
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Guys just kiss already

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Oml

quiet oar
warm vortex
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Also unless “not locked in” is hidden on mobile

grim jay
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Imagine people still saying germans know nothing about love

grim jay
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And dont show emotions

vestal cliff
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Guten Morgen

grim jay
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Guten Morgen mein Freund. Wie geht es Ihnen?

vestal cliff
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Sehr gut, ich habe gerade ein schmackhaftes Mettbrötchen verzehrt, und ihnen werter Kollege?

rotund oak
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i hate that fight so much

novel arrow
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how good is haste for us after mastery?

warm vortex
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SAP

novel arrow
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is it a banger stat?

warm vortex
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SAP

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WANNA HEAR SOMETNING FUCKED UP

rotund oak
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yes my man shoot

red schooner
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I wish parses didn't exist on HC reclears my guild just goes full parse mode and fucks us

quiet oar
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Sap

warm vortex
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I WAS PARSING 99 ON A FUCKING 0.8% WIPE

red schooner
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We fucking wiped 6 times on gally HC

quiet oar
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Do you wann hear something funny

warm vortex
red schooner
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Because fuckers trying to parse

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Pls

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Cease

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5 people did 90% of the bombs

warm vortex
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Just do both

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Parse and mechanics

rotund oak
warm vortex
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Easy

rotund oak
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yup

red schooner
rotund oak
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hunter gaming

rotund oak
warm vortex
quiet oar
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i died

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Because of the hole

grim jay
warm vortex
grim jay
warm vortex
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When you play hunter you lose IQ

rotund oak
quiet oar
warm vortex
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Why think when after me is smart

rotund oak
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and died to standing on zappin' areas coz cba moving

quiet oar
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becasue Coordinated Assault charges you to the enemy

red schooner
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But ye idk just do mechanics and ignore the parse, throwing a bomb in the pit ain't gonna kill you

warm vortex
quiet oar
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and thats the edge of the hole

grim jay
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Because hitbox

quiet oar
warm vortex
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BM life

grim jay
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Also on the big aoe where you shadowstep and it just turns you around

warm vortex
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Can somehow carry the bomb and shoot my bow

grim jay
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That one is glorious

warm vortex
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Maybe my rats are carrying them

red schooner
quiet oar
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where you shadowstepped

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and when the Boss turned for whatever reason

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it was yeeting time

rotund oak
warm vortex
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Thatl show them

red schooner
steel ridge
grim jay
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Liked the fight alot

warm vortex
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Was fucking amazing

grim jay
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No I was exclusively sinning

quiet oar
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Like P1 and Intermssion 1

grim jay
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And even if I play sub I am always in here

quiet oar
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were the progress

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and the rest was piss

grim jay
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I like weird fights anyways

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I freaking loved sylvanas

warm vortex
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Holy shit it’s this

grim jay
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And Gul Dan

warm vortex
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Wait that worked

quiet oar
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You are my weird Prince

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and thats ok

grim jay
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Imagine how much time he must have spend on that

warm vortex
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Ok I found the right one

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This one goes fucking hard

grim jay
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A guy in my guild made songs about most of our members

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With this AI Song creator tool

warm vortex
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Legend

grim jay
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The one he made about our other rogue said something like "the eternal number two behind Dom"

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Dom is me

quiet oar
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Dom a Family man

warm vortex
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Also kinda wanna go back to Assa for some at fun but I wanna push on my hunter and maybe even try a bit of destro

grim jay
warm vortex
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I miss brainrotted envenom spam

grim jay
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You literally named 2 specs, classes even, that are closer to maximum brainrot

thorn rampart
#

!fuu

subtle tundra
#

god i need my balls tortured

keen mantle
#

Algorithm reads I’m on vacation

#

Vault is a scam

rotund oak
#

gz my man

grim jay
#

Im free from the HoC prison on sin

#

Had mythic signet yesterday

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So I only suffer in heroic HoC prison on sub

#

Waiting for the mythic one to come

vestal cliff
grim jay
warm vortex
#

I mean I find Assa as easy as BM rota wise

neat shell
#

this guy kekw

warm vortex
#

Tbh it felt easier cause I didn’t have to worry about my defs as much

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Just press feint and you most likely won’t die

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Then again prolly cause I played it for like all of S1 and shit but idk

warm vortex
rotund oak
#

i mean blizzard knows the drill

warm vortex
#

Cause I remember Whispyr making a new thing on it

grim jay
#

Idk, playing bm optimally is probably the easiest thing ever, even easier than ret and fury

grim jay
warm vortex
#

Oof

warm vortex
#

Just personally, in my opinion I think Assa is either as easy/easier than BM just due to surving atm
I feel a lot safer as Assa than BM

grim jay
#

Also sin has two different difficulties, its arguably straightforward in raids, but its definitely on the harder side to play optimally in m+

warm vortex
#

Fairs

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Also this season is much more melee unfriendly

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So I get what ya mean

#

Anyway my opinion sways a lot so I’ll prolly think differently like the next day

red schooner
warm vortex
#

I mean I say Oof as if they have wildly different rotas

red schooner
#

I was hesitant about trying it because I am resistant to change but ye, it slaps

warm vortex
#

Where it’s just like

#

-KB and you shiv more

warm vortex
#

For me
Changing is super difficult

red schooner
#

Change is scary I like the comfort zone

#

It's so comfy

warm vortex
#

Even if it’s a minor change
The concept of changing it makes me super anxious and stuff

#

Maybe it’s an autism thing but idk

red schooner
#

Is that why you went BM hunter, for the emotional support rats

red schooner
warm vortex
#

I like doing the same thing every day routinely. Even if it means nothing

Like every work day for the past like few months

#

I always go to the same potion poolside for the first hour

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Even though I know the other 2 options and 1 is much easier

#

I’m just used to going to that place

warm vortex
#

But Yeye maybe I can get a wa to track the CDs of my homies so I can play build

#

Cause it’s prolly a good idea to shiv when they use their CDs most likely

red schooner
warm vortex
#

Maybe I could try MM
Seen ES hit for 20 mil or higher

red schooner
#

Payback for S1 and them blowing up my deathmark mob

warm vortex
#

Haha

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Yea

#

Tbh I am missing feint
Like when someone tell me to lust I either lose dmg mid pull or risk being squishier

red schooner
#

Feint good though it feels a little bit bad in raid single target build

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Because god damn is my energy regen fucked

warm vortex
#

Tbh the other hunter hero tree had goated defs

red schooner
#

Worth it not to die

warm vortex
#

Like I don’t miss the rota but I miss the defensive

red schooner
#

But also, I would like to hit a damage button please

warm vortex
#

TLDR: when you used survival of the fittest you would use exhilaration and vice versa

#

It felt so nice

#

So your damage shield would come w a heal and heal would come w a damage shield

red schooner
#

That sounds alright. Sometimes I feel a bit stuck defensive wise on rogue. Like if it's a non-feintable ability and cloak/evasion is down it's just... OKAY THEN

#

I should run elusiveness but cheat death feels safe

#

Because I know what I'm like and I don't trust myself

gray pecan
#

Sry mag frost will be better on aoe m+ and st raid or rogue assa?

blazing pumice
#

what

warm vortex
#

Fuck it imma try bleed

The problem is getting alts geared
Once you have good score you can just mash stuff like you do on your main

grim jay
#

Its rather easy with the discount

#

If you can do keys with guildies

red schooner
sharp trellis
#

wait should you reforge hast crit on item ? why does my crit literrally goes last stat on sim weight in dj slice as well :/

red schooner
#

The SIM works in mysterious ways

warm vortex
#

But i forget bleed

subtle tundra
#

probably cause envenom isnt as strong -> being able to do fok into envenom reliably isnt as important

#

in aoe

warm vortex
#

True

spice surge
#

Bleed is life

worthy fable
#

Guys i'm hella confused why archon is saying that the overall top parses on assa rogue is putting haste as the lowest stat when its simming crazy good?

buoyant herald
#

probably sub refugees

#

who avoid haste like the plague

lavish wing
#

imagine switching from sub and beating all the natives 😄

#

sub trully the master race 😄

subtle tundra
#

youre acting as if playing assa is some rocket science

halcyon grail
#

rogues adept and flexible to play every spec. hnnnnng. duck_twerk

wide ferry
#

I play sin because who tf has 2 sets of eyes to watch a weak aura and avoid 9,000 mechanics simultaneously. Maybe its the 35 y/o in me

halcyon grail
#

mechanics are for ranged. slam boss.

warm vortex
#

Might sound like cope but i genuinly enjoy doing mechanics

#

as BM at least

final star
#

you should be able to play both assa and sub

#

outlaw is irrelevant ofc

fierce sigil
#

Ive just read this... and idk. I just see so many ppl in High Keys not playing this Talents in M+. They just play like the "old" Bleed Build or am i missing something?
I cant really follow this logic tbh. Can somebody explain?

final star
#

😏

subtle tundra
final star
#

green rogue

halcyon grail
#

I say this ironically of course when I was on bird duty in Firelands/add tank on Nefarian, and the hero runner for bell on the blind dragon boy

subtle tundra
subtle kiln
final star
final star
#

GUyssss I hgave 12% haste is this too much?!

subtle kiln
#

no one plays rogue anyways. I swear half the people in the sub channel have the wrong gems in circlet

lavish wing
#

hey

final star
#

ur so real for that

subtle tundra
crisp burrow
#

wait we dont play kingsbane on m+ right now?

subtle kiln
lavish wing
#

its just there r too many of those gems

halcyon grail
#

nobody ever played kingsbane, kingsbane played US.

final star
#

kingsbane used to be the most fun and thematic spell assa had

subtle kiln
#

@spice surge cook up a raid bleed build please and thank you.

red schooner
#

Very fun and just executing a target, very assassin like

halcyon grail
#

I always thought the killshot mechanics since blindside were thematic of an "assassin." kingsbane is lore shi from Garona.

fierce sigil
royal lantern
#

why is it crazy

#

kingsbane doesnt really do big dmg

red schooner
royal lantern
#

its envenom the Spec

subtle kiln
#

More like kingsbane feels crappy to press

fierce sigil
#

nah i said it seems not that it is 😉

halcyon grail
#

truth told I miss when blindside was baseline to all sin builds.

subtle tundra
halcyon grail
#

I hate having to give something up to get something I love.

subtle tundra
#

play whatever you like

royal lantern
subtle tundra
#

maybe you like being an caustic spatter bot with kingsbane

subtle kiln
subtle tundra
#

i mostly didnt want to play at all

subtle kiln
#

sub run out?

fierce sigil
#

But in Raid we still play Kingsbane, no?

subtle tundra
royal lantern
subtle tundra
fierce sigil
#

ok ill give it a try 😉 how is our ST compared to the old build?

spice surge
#

Higher

subtle tundra
#

same

subtle kiln
#

Better

lavish wing
#

faster

spice surge
#

Or ye like +1%

royal lantern
#

stronger

spice surge
#

So mostly same

fierce sigil
#

so ST same/better and AoE just better? 😄

subtle tundra
#

its not simply just better

#

theres differences where your damage is

#

one is frontloaded

#

one is backloaded

final star
#

kingsbane is a shell of what it once was

#

Bring back agonizing poison KB

subtle tundra
#

its a different build with different talents

final star
royal lantern
fierce sigil
#

i only have 7,01% Haste... is it too low for that build?

royal lantern
#

since when does assa care about stats

grand trail
#

Damn why is my spatter so much higher

#

What I'm doing wrong 😄

subtle kiln
#

I have 4%

subtle kiln
#

For the educated. Never

fierce sigil
#

Assa wants to aim for High Mastery and then Crit then Haste from my perspective and after that vers... i dont want to have high vers like a sub rogue... or why i cant see assa rogues with high vers or low crit or like whatever 😄 so ofc we do care a bit about the direction of our stats

red schooner
#

Life is easy

fierce sigil
#

y thats correct

#

but low crit for example feels horrible cause in a lot of cases it is an extra button in the opener in ST 😄

golden loom
#

mastery is damage, crit is damage, haste is damage, vers is damage, agi is damage

#

its all damage nothing matters

granite leaf
#

Ask the robot, it knows all

fierce sigil
#

Ok why there is no high ranked assa with Vers/Haste as best stats? i dont get it if we just dont care about stats u know? 😛 that makes no sense to me 😄

granite leaf
#

Because some stats are worth 0.5 dps more than the others 😄

fierce sigil
#

Ok 😄

spice surge
#

Theres practically no vers+haste items this season

granite leaf
spice surge
#

But like, just sim your shit

tawdry halo
#

EZ

granite leaf
#

Praise our robot overlords, who in their benevolence have imparted unto us a holy tool - A tool that instructs us on all things DPS

balmy condor
#

also he's playing a bleed build

#

reading up on the conversation

#

unless world #7 isn't a "high ranked assa"

tepid breach
normal mist
#

Whispyr, you're telling me, for the 999x time, stats barely matter in the end of the day??

tepid breach
#

so he dont craft 2 neck

#

one crit/mastery

#

one versa/mastery

#

i do same

#

that not mean its better

granite leaf
normal mist
#

Y'all overrate stats too much

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
quiet oar
normal mist
#

If it's varas saying this I agree

balmy condor
#

holy fucking cope man

red schooner
#

If you don't have whispyrs full bis list equipped I'm not inviting you to my +10 key

subtle kiln
normal mist
subtle kiln
#

you all would do more dps matching whispyr’s hair color vs worrying so much about your secondary stats.

radiant raven
normal mist
#

5%

subtle kiln
radiant raven
#

Not enough

balmy condor
#

"high ranked assa doesn't have vers or haste"
here's high ranked assa with vers and haste
"okay but he's a sub main"
he only plays it in theater, hasn't done a different push key on sub in over a week

red schooner
tepid breach
#

you right, lets go full haste/versa!

balmy condor
#

what else we got

radiant raven
balmy condor
#

move the goal posts again

#

I'm ready

#

I got nothing to lose

#

it's 3:40am

#

fuck it

#

what other cope we got

subtle kiln
radiant raven
red schooner
golden loom
#

people worry about stats when they should worry about dodging a frontal or standing in range to autoattack the boss garf_sit

subtle kiln
#

+202% if you have correct circlet gems

normal mist
#

Let me think.... Oh right, WHISPYR!! I can totally feel 7% haste vs 12%

quiet oar
balmy condor
#

"he logged out in sub gear for that key"
it's a verified key, they ran with the addon

red schooner
#

I can shave a cat and put a jacket on it and go, "behold, a rogue"

balmy condor
#

what else can we come up with

subtle tundra
#

yeah bro we all know the people pushing early in the season are also the people you should follow 100% and nobody else matters

tepid breach
#

he wont swap mastery/crit on neck

#

for assa

granite leaf
tepid breach
#

its work too

granite leaf
tepid breach
#

but its probably not better

balmy condor
#

it's like talking to a brick wall

scarlet orbit
#

its kinda nice that i can pretty much have the same gear for assa and sub with just switichng some ring to play sub if im forced to do it in raid

loud hearth
radiant raven
#

It's really cool that you can use whatever and still blast though.

balmy condor
#

didn't I just say

normal mist
#

Matching your Tmog is way more important than caring about assa stats

#

Fite me

granite leaf
#

My neck is haste crit because it simmed higher /shrug I do what bot tells me

subtle tundra
radiant raven
#

If I don't take damage how will I get a high healing parse though?

loud hearth
granite leaf
subtle kiln
#

it don’t matter

granite leaf
#

Stat weights Cringe

balmy condor
#

maybe you are not secret sub main not doing sub keys

#

like shindig?

subtle kiln
#

amazing how gear changes it

#

Weird right?

golden loom
#

buff offhands

radiant raven
#

The sim wants me to stack versatility now so I just do what it says.

balmy condor
radiant raven
#

Hahaha

spice surge
#

Mf stacking crit+vers so skarn bomba trinket does more damage

subtle kiln
red schooner
scarlet orbit
radiant raven
#

The ideal key is trio of OTP rogues each on their best spec.

granite leaf
#

Combat > oUtLaW

subtle kiln
red schooner
radiant raven
cedar flicker
#

Do we have any tips to do high damage from demise ? I did average about 4-5%

subtle kiln
#

doesn’t seem sudden enough

red schooner
#

Because it's true but I'm purely aiming for demise here

#

It isn't padding it's optimal play

subtle kiln
#

I need one of you MFs to run bleeder on rik and see how quickly you can pad / blow up the adds.

red schooner
#

Barrels are an afterthought

subtle kiln
#

also acceptable

red schooner
#

How else are you going to train the raid to not get mind controlled

royal lantern
#

kidney

granite leaf
#

If it needs to die, it ain't pad Yep - Ret main

golden loom
#

teammate gets mindcontrolled?
Vanish sap, cheap shot, marked for death kidney, dance, rupture evis blind the healer cheap shot

red schooner
royal lantern
scarlet orbit
royal lantern
#

i like furry warrys

#

:3

scarlet orbit
#

i normaly liked them but i had to keep my cool to not flame the hell out of them. Always thought they had the same retri mindset. 2 healthbars = aoe lets go

red schooner
scarlet orbit
#

and i got forced on sub because the adds didnt die besad

royal lantern
red schooner
scarlet orbit
wide ferry
#

Does the Cinderbrew neck actually exist cuz im bout tohave 2 crafted daggers and a crafted neck.....

lavish wing
#

has anyone got a dagger in the vault, actually

#

this season

spice surge
#

yes

spice surge
lavish wing
#

I guess game is waiting for me to kill Rik on myth to give me bis one

#

i crafted one and the other I got from the hidden trove in the first week

spice surge
#

(as in crafting the second dagger was a bad choice since its the worst slot, crafting anyhting else wouldve been a better choice)

red schooner
final star
#

guys does this message matter

granite leaf
#

Yes

red schooner
subtle tundra
final star
#

RUNNING SIM

#

!!!!!!!!

granite leaf
#

Woah, agi is your worst stat. Gotta drop ilevel for crit

red schooner
lavish wing
#

omg where can I find a chest item with weapon stat

vocal widget
#

See that your stat values are really close, so, they tend to fluctuate a lot and it can change with a single piece of gear

red schooner
#

You mastery sheep can't indoctrinate me any more

vocal widget
#

Oh yeah true lol

#

Drop mastery

red schooner
#

I'm free

granite leaf
#

Crit > Haste > Vers > Mastery is the new play

scarlet orbit
#

Nahh Versa>=Crit> Haste >>Mastery

final star
#

I need crit

granite leaf
red schooner
#

Drop agility equip strength

granite leaf
red schooner
#

Agi fucking worthless

golden loom
#

Stamina is most important stat cause being dead is a massive DPS loss

grand trail
golden loom
#

I hate being forced into taking signet

final star
#

omg downloading pawn again

#

goated addon!

granite leaf
#

Yo pawn? pogey

scarlet orbit
#

stat weight TacoRiot is 100% feelscraft

grand trail
#

I sometimes sim it to see what's up

granite leaf
#

I sim weights, then change a piece of gear, sim again and realise I don't know why the fuck I did it

golden loom
#

Crit mastery > vers haste so I equipped a 200 ilvl item from transmog runs

grand trail
#

Guys don't forget to craft your shoulders, it's approved by me

lavish wing
grand trail
#

Why you think so

lavish wing
#

cause u got it all 😄

red schooner
golden loom
red schooner
#

That's the actual play

granite leaf
# golden loom Stamina is most important stat cause being dead is a massive DPS loss
It's Dangerous to Go Alone

Italicized quotations throughout are from my old raid leader Sebudai, well-known for his efforts to teach his raiders to be better at playing WoW. I’ve written many WoW guides over the past years, largely covering the details of min/maxing a particular class, but I always knew I was addressing a narrow slice of what makes a good raider. While...

balmy condor
#

that shoulder craft hurts my eyes lowkey

grand trail
#

From all items you can see i got only bracers from raid

sharp viper
lavish wing
balmy condor
#

I've never even seen this icon

grand trail
sharp viper
#

that's the arathi shoulder

red schooner
#

I had one at start of S1

#

Cos I had 4 set but never got a fucking shoulder drop so I sent it

lavish wing
golden loom
#

Tier shoulders are so nicely statted

grand trail
#

Kezan was my first vault

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

I mean I get it

sharp viper
#

first boss even drops shoulders for you to catalyze

subtle tundra
#

imagine not having crafted chest

#

lol

lavish wing
#

dude u lucky af 😄

balmy condor
#

but also crafting shoulders just seems so doomed

#

idk

grand trail
#

I cringe so fucking hard crafting crit mastery over crit mastery

balmy condor
#

like at this point what else would you use a spark on I guess

quiet oar
#

I mean you fill the low parts in your gear

#

with mythic crafts

sharp viper
balmy condor
sharp viper
balmy condor
oak eagle
#

oh shit

#

its my goat whispyr

granite leaf
oak eagle
#

sup goat

balmy condor
#

baaaaaaa

sharp viper
grand trail
#

Next craft probably cloak since it's hero track, can't wait will be juice 0.5% gain maybe

sharp viper
#

hmmm, brokkoli and brussel spouts, fried with bacon withs and almond splinters

subtle tundra
#

brocockli

granite leaf
#

You can keep the sprouts but broccoli, bacon, almonds sounds goated

lethal heart
#

@marble hemlock

earnest remnant
marble hemlock
#

outskilled

marble hemlock
rotund oak
marble hemlock
#

literally first boss i raided this tier

rotund oak
bleak sun
#

Nice vids @balmy condor ty 😘

marble hemlock
#

also back to RLing on this boss again

rotund oak
#

we need selistream

#

idc

#

vanishcheapshot you

#

cant say no

lethal heart
marble hemlock
#

pure skill too as usual

#

higher rio = bigger penis too

balmy condor
lethal heart
#

i mean kezan be cooking on that fight late on

#

for sure

marble hemlock
#

mine has shrunk considerably since i stopped pushing keys

willow mason
#

Question, i got already two crafted pieces(weapon and boots), i was thinking of crafting wrists and maybe ring. Can i add another dawnthread to the wrist? or it wont work since i already have 1 in the boots?

lethal heart
#

having 3k more agility than other trinket

#

helps

oblique flume
#

this bleed build is quite pumping indeed, and i find smoother to play.
is there anychance to find a more mono target bleed build for raid, especially Lib of undermine is mostly multitarget ?

marble hemlock
#

why do potatoes grow roots so fucking fast man

subtle kiln
#

they crash economies fast too

willow mason
#

Oh nice. Thanks. So the limit is 2 of every emb?

subtle kiln
#

No. You re limited to 2 total

subtle tundra
strong fern
#

Hello, do you recommend using Dungeon Slice for M+ in SimulationCraft?

marble hemlock
#

bought them 3 days ago and theyre already going crazy

subtle kiln
#

What type?

granite leaf
subtle tundra
oak eagle
subtle tundra
#

i have 0 potato knowledge

willow mason
#

Ok. So since i got the Blessed weapon grip and 1 dawn i cant have another emb?
So for my 3rd craft i need to do it without emb right?

#

Thanks @subtle kiln . Gotta put my order then 🙂

red schooner
#

With the sheds

earnest remnant
#

surely

oblique flume
#

since i have 0 luck with vault raid and M+, do you think it's cringe to craft a 2d wep ?

marble hemlock
lethal heart
#

that means