assassination

[quiet oar]

already

[balmy condor]

Ye he killed a couple days ago

[quiet oar]

Dobby is free

[runic hinge]

okay flying daggers is only 4.1% behind

[haughty flicker]

Cook king

[quiet oar]

But does it increase your fun, for more than this %

[subtle tundra]

mmmmmmmmmmmiau

[runic hinge]

We'll see how far behind FD and taking 2/2 in supercharger over Deeper is

[zenith elm]

Hello fellow gamers

[runic hinge]

5 combo point rogue is back

only 9.5% behind

[quiet oar]

Keep Cooking King

[runic hinge]

'

[zenith elm]

Daaaamn only???

we are so back to 5 combo points

[slim copper]

just how i like it

[zenith elm]

Daaaamn she THICC

[runic hinge]

okay we're gonna go 2/2 lethality and 1/2 alacrity now

Still flying daggers cause we're bleed build

okay worse

[pure moth]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[golden loom]

problem is you cant sim the usefulness of the extra range, which my rough napkin math equals around 7,3% overall

and in spread cleave raid scenarios (rik reverb) its an infinite damage gain

[royal lantern]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[runic hinge]

hybrid is better

[balmy condor]

math checks out

you only fok on 5 targets with raid build

if you take flying daggers

rik + 4 barrels

[haughty flicker]

stonks

[balmy condor]

that's +infinite% fok damage

[golden loom]

yeah I would never lie about math

[slim copper]

jumped over the edge after Ruhkran in Skyreach. turns out he doesnt give hugs

[haughty flicker]

works for stix too for when that bombshell is just outside of range

i think you're on to something

[golden loom]

eating schnitzel with fries and bearnaise sauce, sun is out and vacation starts in 4 hours again, life is good

[slim copper]

much mo betta

goodnight all!

[zenith elm]

I needed to change my build cause i had too much crit

now i have WAY too much mastery lol

[slim copper]

is that possible? lol did i over do it?

[red schooner]

Nah

[balmy condor]

nah

[zenith elm]

over do what?

[balmy condor]

I wonder what mines looking like though

yeh nah

[red schooner]

I think I'm sat at almost 20k mastery it's alright

Chilling

[balmy condor]

super chillin

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ole-gif-25598782

[slim copper]

once someone in my guild recrafts my amulet i should be about 18k mastery

[balmy condor]

weak

[grim jay]

sitting comfy at 23k

[slim copper]

https://tenor.com/view/work-out-excercise-spongebob-crossfit-zumba-gif-13093532

come at me bro @balmy condor lol

[golden loom]

haste gaming

[grim jay]

stabbing real fast

[slim copper]

https://tenor.com/view/razinon-tanner-dropshot-knife-stab-gif-18384339

actual footage of uwu 😂

[grim jay]

kinda looks like an outlaw main trying sin

[golden loom]

london build

[slim copper]

nah just look at my log above for that

[slim copper]

jesus christ lol

whats your ilvl tho

[balmy condor]

666

[zenith elm]

i'm at 22k and 9k ccrit

c

[red schooner]

Now never change it

[zenith elm]

crit* am i cooked?

[slim copper]

https://tenor.com/view/madea-tyler-perry-crazy-maniac-evil-gif-17180705

[quiet oar]

Ilvl Brother

[balmy condor]

I literally can't, I'm out of myth track pieces to put gilded into

[red schooner]

Nah just sim your gear it'll be alright

[balmy condor]

I'm sitting on 30 gilded and nothing to do with it

[earnest remnant]

tried looting stuff?

heard that helps

[balmy condor]

stix dropped token and two leather leg off pieces this week

THREE LEGS

I ALREADY HAVE LEGS

[red schooner]

665 ilvl but same, got 45 gilded and I'm begrudged to slam that into hero track gear

[earnest remnant]

667 0 guilded to spend

[golden loom]

666,75 ilvl

[red schooner]

So, we wait til next week I guess

[zenith elm]

664 and 60 gilded, hero track trinket and head or just wait for myth?

[balmy condor]

I "wasted" some crests on signet/pacemaker week 2

cause I know I ain't seeing it

but yeh dunno

[earnest remnant]

ive spent 0 crests on trinkets

all went into myth track items

[balmy condor]

I'm sitting on like 6 pieces of hero track

which would just burn gildeds

for fun

[zenith elm]

is pacemaker capable of messing up priory trinket ?

[subtle tundra]

hoe

[red schooner]

I still need a hero track signet or smth, got champ track house of cards from normal which I'm probably stuck with til we get dinars

[earnest remnant]

[balmy condor]

either that or I start putting gilded into a myth dagger

[zenith elm]

cause i feel like it did

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

of course

[subtle tundra]

your gear is dogshit

[balmy condor]

it gives crit rating

[slim copper]

@earnest remnant what main hand dagger is that? i dont recognize it

[royal lantern]

no jesters lol

[balmy condor]

rik

[earnest remnant]

3rd boss

[royal lantern]

fake stealthi

[slim copper]

ahhh

[zenith elm]

i got it myth track, and now i needed to drop crit a lot, cause of flasks proccing crit and this trinket

[earnest remnant]

what can do, no items drop

[zenith elm]

i need to be like 6.7k over in crit to be sure

[earnest remnant]

and when a piece i can use drop

its like 14k for me

and fcking 25+k for a monk or some dumb shit

[grim jay]

658 HoC?

are you even playing?

[earnest remnant]

why would i send guilded into it?

when ive got myth track tier pieces that gives me more

[zenith elm]

still better than hero track signet

[earnest remnant]

math aint mathin

[grim jay]

why didnt you loot it on mythic

smh my head

[earnest remnant]

we did

our mage took it

[red schooner]

When I simmed 665 signet v 658 hoc signet was a slight upgrade, like 0.3% or something

[grim jay]

filthy blue guys

[royal lantern]

@earnest remnant stab the mage

[zenith elm]

Damn really? i'll never take HOC on dinars then

ring all the way

[grim jay]

[marble hemlock]

whens the last time someone asked about bombdmg on rik?

[royal lantern]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[steel ridge]

i can do it

[red schooner]

WE WERE ALMOST AT A NEW RECORD YOU FUCK

SO CLOSE

[marble hemlock]

[grim jay]

the really important question is: when will they bring legion prepatch exsang back?

[marble hemlock]

exsang -> i sleep

[runic hinge]

[royal lantern]

how can you sleep, you have to reapply your bleeds for exsang

[grim jay]

#voteforexsangchoicenodeonkb

#bleedmaxxing

[runic hinge]

Wake up sleepy. It’s time to reapply bleeds again

[subtle tundra]

i need my hands held

havent had them in a while

[runic hinge]

[subtle tundra]

i miss the feeling of a warm, soft hand

[quiet oar]

Sit on one hand and piss on the other and hold your own hands

[subtle tundra]

not a bad alternative

[zenith elm]

Good idea tbh

[shrewd night]

Imagine having to do barrel damage

DISGUSTANG

RANGED SLACKERS

FUCK RANGED

[runic hinge]

[limpid lava]

guys should i go cleave build for sprok ?

[balmy condor]

sprok?

the raid boss that's full single target?

[limpid lava]

i havent seen the fight yet

first time

[balmy condor]

it's the only fight in the raid with 0 adds

[limpid lava]

ok ok ty

[quiet oar]

Based on my experience on the rekill attempt yesterday

The Boss definitely has some extra adds

Called raid member

[shrewd night]

Bad Tiramil

Bad.

[quiet oar]

Im sorry koffing

But people standing in Mine spawns

While it gets called

To not stand in it

[shrewd night]

HAVE YOU EVER HAD POLARITY SWAP PEOPLE STAND STILL IN OPPOSITE CAMP HOMIE??

[quiet oar]

Yes

Thats not as Bad

As literally

[shrewd night]

[plucky canopy]

Wdym

[shrewd night]

wha-

[quiet oar]

Well

Maybe its equal

Because both gets called

And you just have to Listen

[red schooner]

Lock mythic looks terrifying, gonna be chain reactions fucking everywhere

[shrewd night]

Mine triggers, everyone dies
Polarity swap, people get knocked off, soulstone disappears

How are these equal

[quiet oar]

I mean with jumper cables

Soulstone Thing is kinda meh

Tbh

[shrewd night]

Im saving my jumper cables for bandit prog

[quiet oar]

But i See your point

I mean the self resurrect

Koffing

[shrewd night]

Those are also called jumper cables

But you know

[quiet oar]

Ye

[shrewd night]

So Im still saving my jumper cables for bandit prog

[quiet oar]

Jokes in you

[shrewd night]

IN ME?

[quiet oar]

When you wipe 2 hours on lockenstock

[bronze pike]

[quiet oar]

You dont need to save them

[quiet oar]

Yes in you

Not a typo

I mean it

[shrewd night]

Damn, why you selfburning like that

No wait, thats not you

Thats quake

[royal lantern]

we wiped 1hour on rik yesterday cus suddenly nobody does mechanics anymore

[quiet oar]

Nice

[shrewd night]

Fuck rik

[quiet oar]

Thats how you Do it king

[shrewd night]

I love being a singletarget monster class, but forced to do adds

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/revolution-gif-23599290

[grim jay]

you can rik my roll

[quiet oar]

We btw call rik reverb

[royal lantern]

"we have 2 bad barrels, melee swap to the one over there after you cleaved the melee barrels down"->literally nobody except me and the DH moves, not even a single ranged attacks it

[quiet oar]

Richard Rückkopplung

[grim jay]

dang

[royal lantern]

richard reveberation?

[grim jay]

I like it

[quiet oar]

Better than rik Resonanz

[royal lantern]

and ofc cant forget

[quiet oar]

For Sure

[royal lantern]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[quiet oar]

Kind of Streisand effect

Isnt it

[plush iris]

can u have too much crit on assa?

im looking at murlok and i feel like i have waaaaay more crit then a lot of the players up there

[grim jay]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

normaly no, assa doesnt care about stats

but if you use priory trinket, you need mastery as your highest secondsry cus it increases your highest secondary

and priory trinket + pacemaker is 1 of the best trinket combinations

and pacemaker gives crit rating

so it ends up with people having lower baseline crit, cus otherwhise pacemaker will make priory trinket give you crit

[plush iris]

yeeeeeeee i use priory and i have more crit then mastery

and i have pacemaker

so might have to change my stats around

without any pots or anything i got 18k crit and 15k mastery

=(

[tacit hedge]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bronze pike]

i need to parse

so i will be ignoring barrels

[shrewd night]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[stable pasture]

Looking at warcraftlogs is a mixed bag of builds, are most people playing bleed in keys?

[runic basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

probably

its atleast recommended

[stable pasture]

Fuu build runs twist the knife, sanguine blades vs master assasin and wire, is that just to get the utility from wire?

[grim jay]

idk what build he has in the sims

all the info you need is in the wowhead guide tho

as its written by whispyr

[vast shuttle]

do all my spells do more dmg if i have more crit?

[grim jay]

if something crits it does more dmg

[steel ridge]

[golden loom]

More crit equals more chance to crit which does damage, also leads to more combo point generation from seal fate
At the same time you will be trading other stats that increase your damage for that crit so its not always crit = big dam!
Also with darkest night you are guaranteed a crit with that envenom so it loses all its value for that one cast every 4 finishers!

But crit good, other stats good, whatever the sim tells you is better between gear pieces with different stats is also good 🙂

[vast shuttle]

ye ok got the signet of pirory first try so wanted to know when to use

[golden loom]

Ideally you want signet to give mastery, but in all cases you macro it with deathmark

[vast shuttle]

huhh i should have more crit then mastery? havent seen the top sins have more crit?

[golden loom]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[normal mist]

Answer is Yes

[golden loom]

But also no

[normal mist]

More stats = more good

[vast shuttle]

do i want crit flask then?

[normal mist]

"is this really more good?" Sim it

[stable pasture]

I just dont see anyone actually running whisyprs build in keys

[steel ridge]

assassination works with whatever you throw at it usually

[golden loom]

You want signet to give you mastery, running crit flask would make that more unlikely

the trinket gives you the stat that you already have the highest raiting of, so lets say you have 20001 crit and 20000 mastery, it would give you crit when you press the trinket

[grim jay]

there are a ton of builds out there and some strictly follow what sims best for them

some tailor a build to their needs

others ignore that sudden demise has value thats not reflected in sims

[golden loom]

ideally you woud want it to give mastery, so in that case you would want it the other way around as in 20000 crit and 20001 mastery

[balmy condor]

Me and eleem played bleed build in 14’s

[grim jay]

go to bed grandpa

[balmy condor]

That’s 2 people

[grim jay]

that was ages ago

[stable pasture]

Scroll through logs all kingsbane andys

[balmy condor]

Yeah fucking losers

They aren’t enlightened

[normal mist]

LOL

[stable pasture]

kek

[red schooner]

If you have two bleed build rogues in the same key which rogue gets the sudden demise damage

[grim jay]

I'll use your build and force KB into it just for the sake of it

[balmy condor]

The one who gets to it first

[royal lantern]

they saw trought whisps evil lies

[normal mist]

The one that ticks it fastrr

[steel ridge]

the one with the larger bleed

as in the one with the larger dong

[balmy condor]

You’re ugly and your hairline is receding

[grim jay]

how did you know?

[red schooner]

Okay so hypothetically, if both rogues reach it at the same time, how does the game decide. I'm curious

[chrome harbor]

For m+ bleed build, do I shiv on ST outside of deathmark?

[red schooner]

Like it's pointless information

But I still wanna know

[steel ridge]

if you are gonna cap on stacks and get it back for dm, yes

why wouldnt you

[grim jay]

they cant, everyone has different stats and procs

and durations

[red schooner]

Sir it's a hypothetical I know it won't happen in actual gameplay, but what if.... It did

[grim jay]

the universe will collapse

[red schooner]

Neat

[golden loom]

Player UID or whatever its called would probably kick in at that point?

[grim jay]

its a situation that wont happen

[hardy dagger]

Same been bleedmaxxing in 14s 🤝

[balmy condor]

Well in the hypothetical where both have the same amount of bleed damage remaining, sudden demise calculates on bleed tick, so it would then fall on who gets the first tick that triggers the sudden demise kill. But I’ll take it one step further than that, if both rogues have the exact same remaining bleed damage, and their killing-tick happens on the exact same thousandth of a second, the game would go by player UID

[grim jay]

what if they have the same UID because one hacked the game?

[steel ridge]

thats oddly specific

[balmy condor]

If they had the same UID they’d both get disconnected from the server

[grim jay]

dang you know everything, dont you?

[golden loom]

Whispyr would never win the demise war against another rogue cause comcast ping would be too high!

[red schooner]

Okay this is good to know. Pointless information but I like pointless info sometimes

[balmy condor]

I had a guy out today, so it’s fixed

We think

Possibly

[grim jay]

perchance

[balmy condor]

I didn’t crash during todays stream

[grim jay]

mayhaps

[balmy condor]

So

Good sign?

[grim jay]

fingers crossed

[earnest remnant]

sending my raccoon army to sabotage it

[balmy condor]

It’s only been 4 months of headaches and pain and support calls

[grim jay]

cant you like

sue them

[balmy condor]

Could’ve been worse

[grim jay]

because america

[balmy condor]

I could, yes

[grim jay]

you could be rich

[balmy condor]

I also could send a complaint to the fcc

[grim jay]

I mean, money rich, not rich in terms of love because you got us

[grim jay]

whats the fcc?

[balmy condor]

Government agency in charge of internet providers

As well as radio and all that

All communication related stuff

[royal lantern]

fcc deez nuts

[balmy condor]

You can send a complaint and be like hey Comcast is being a bunch of fucking dickweeds

And they aren’t actually giving me what I paid for

And when I ask them to fix it they make it extremely hard

And don’t want to

So fuck those guys

[red schooner]

Isn't it a case of most areas are only covered by one provider in the states or some bullshit

[balmy condor]

And in theory the fcc opens an investigation and makes a big mess of it

And then maybe they force Comcast to fix it and give me money and then we’re all pissed

[balmy condor]

I have 2 providers and 1 of them sucks insane ass

[grim jay]

sounds fair tbh

[red schooner]

So pretty much one provider but legally not a monopoly

[golden loom]

Forced monopoly based

[balmy condor]

Like Comcast offers me 1300/40 for 120 a month, the alternative is also 120 a month but I get 300 or 400 down and 5 up

(Twitch stream uses between 6-8)

[steel ridge]

that sounds rather expensive

[grim jay]

the most you'd get around here is your money back for the missed service and the right to cancel the contract, so you can change your provider

[real pike]

All I know is they won't let me be

[balmy condor]

Well I live in one of the most expensive places on earth so yes that kinda makes sense

[steel ridge]

true that

i hope your income reflects that my dear

[earnest remnant]

think i pay 50 dollars for 1k-1k

around that mark

[steel ridge]

my neighbours are literally cattle and i pay 80 euros for 1000/250

[balmy condor]

It very much does not

[earnest remnant]

that number is crazy to me

[grim jay]

1000/500 mbit for 70 a month

[steel ridge]

i read that you are considered below living wage in san francisco if you make less that 120k or something

[red schooner]

500 down idk the up speed for £35 a month, it's alright

[stable pasture]

imagine not paying £25 for 3gig up and down

[balmy condor]

I am by all metrics a tiny twitch streamer, I get maybe 30 viewers on a given day, but the twitch/youtube income is legit paying for my food atm so that’s neat I guess

[balmy condor]

Correct

[grim jay]

400 euro a month?

[balmy condor]

Poverty line in my area is under 108k a year I think

[high walrus]

where my eurochads at? paying 15 euro for 1000/1000

[red schooner]

Whispyr escaping from California when?

[balmy condor]

Not quite that much but I also don’t eat anything crazy

[stable pasture]

you on the west coast or something?

[steel ridge]

does that mean you are eligible for social security or something or are you just getting the stick and starve ?

[balmy condor]

I think twitch and youtube combined atm is around 290-370 a month depending on view count

[grim jay]

try to guess the poverty line around here

[balmy condor]

10.2 rework did around 550 just on youtube

Like it’s not insane, but it’s not nothing

[steel ridge]

thats alot of ramen!

[balmy condor]

Cupertino California, I can walk to the Apple campus

[balmy condor]

Well, yes, but no

It’s complicated and I luckily live with my dad so im not like homeless or some shit

[red schooner]

Over 100k dollars being the poverty line is fucking wild though.

[grim jay]

it is indeed

cost of living is high tho

[stable pasture]

Cali is most expensive place on earth

[red schooner]

Im lucky I live in the cheap part of my country, if I lived in London on my wage I'd survive but it'd be rough

[steel ridge]

with that kind of money you would be living like a king around here

[golden loom]

yeah the numbers are just mind blowing to me

[red schooner]

Yeah same.

[grim jay]

@balmy condor poverty line around here is ~14796 after taxes. A year.

[balmy condor]

So my parents built this house in 1998 for 135,000, and last year we had an inspector and an appraiser go over it and they said that the landscaping brings the value down a couple hundred grand (me and my dad are tech nerds, not garden nerds, so it’s been a bit unkempt and a little jungle-y)

Appraisal came back at 2.85 million

[grim jay]

good investment

[red schooner]

[balmy condor]

It’s… kinda silly

[red schooner]

Mortgage on my house was £105k

2.85 mil is mental

[balmy condor]

I’ve been with my girlfriend for nearly 10 years now, in highschool we went on dates to like lil restaurants nothing too fancy but like regular here’s a menu and a waiter and whatever the hell

In highschool that was like 60$ for the two of us

Now I don’t expect less than 100

[grim jay]

think mine went from 180 to around 800, so not as crazy

[earnest remnant]

how much is a regular pepperoni pizza going for?

[golden loom]

I live in like the 10-15th biggest city in a country of 5,5 million people so even trying to compare anything to the US is just fried

[grim jay]

I live close to one of the biggest cities in germany

and its still fried

[earnest remnant]

i live in the 4th

[tawny geyser]

I am in Germany, 1 hour from Munchen.
Small town, pizza costs between 11-14€
Doner Kebab is 7-9€

[limpid lava]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[golden loom]

like to me the city feels decently big and we are a massive 70k people spread out over quite a large area

[balmy condor]

And with any luck the us economy is about to blast its brains out with a shotgun so who knows, maybe lunch dates are gonna be like a trillion dollars and I’ll need to personally suck off Elongated muskrat toes using a Russian Twitter integrated robot so I can get a bowl of soup delivered into my neurolink

[balmy condor]

From like dominos?

[earnest remnant]

yeh

just a reg pizza chain

or smth like that

[grim jay]

that would be like 11€ here

so probably 30 dollar

[earnest remnant]

its like 10-12 dollars

right next to my house

[golden loom]

the regular pizza I would order home is 16 euro + delivery fees and shit

[tawny geyser]

Cant be 30 wdym xd

[red schooner]

Cali prices

[balmy condor]

27-30 dollars if you pick it up

[red schooner]

[earnest remnant]

[tawny geyser]

What?

[red schooner]

What in the actual fuck

[earnest remnant]

thats like 200dkk

[balmy condor]

With delivery gets closer to 35-40

[earnest remnant]

for a fcking pizza

[balmy condor]

Yeh, medium pizza

[steel ridge]

i can get it cheaper with express delivery straight out of napels man

[golden loom]

fly in a pizza from italy

[tawny geyser]

Wtf.. you need to work 2 hours to buy a regular sized pizza?

[novel star]

what’s the advantage of living here

[shadow belfry]

Crimson Tempest on 1 target bleed build?

[balmy condor]

Minimum wage here is up to 19.00 I think

But yeh

[golden loom]

yeah

[balmy condor]

Yes

[tawny geyser]

Which state?

[balmy condor]

Seeing my family and my girlfriend is nice

[balmy condor]

California

[subtle tundra]

omg internet speed talk

im romanian so im automatically the best here

[tawny geyser]

How much does a Forklift driver earn in Cali?

[balmy condor]

Uh

[novel star]

take girlfriend somewhere else and save enough for family flights in a month of living elsewhere

based

[shadow belfry]

kk ty i love you

[golden loom]

heard a forklift operator talk on Atriocs stream and he made minmum wage + like a dollar extra for being certified in cali

[red schooner]

The real reward is being forklift certified

[balmy condor]

Quick lookup says 21-23 an hour

[earnest remnant]

im not even scissor certified

[tawny geyser]

Got 3🤣 one made in Croatia, one in Ireland and my last one in Germany

[golden loom]

and he was working alone in the warehouse pretty much without being allowed to use his phone or have any music or anything

[earnest remnant]

dont trust me with any equipment ever

[steel ridge]

if you think about it 1998 was before the likes of google, amazon and apple even began to take off... so it kinda makes sense for the real estate to skyrocket around that time

[red schooner]

Damn, living your best life

[balmy condor]

Can go up to 25?

[tawny geyser]

Chilling atm🤣

[steel ridge]

the relation of wages to real estate prices are ridiculous tho

[balmy condor]

Don’t have to convince me

[novel star]

who do i gotta talk to pal

[steel ridge]

i make close to 30 euros an hour and rent around here is like 7-8 euros per m²

[tawny geyser]

Yeah, its a bit higher than here in Germany.
Its around 20€ here. Depends if you’re in production factory or simply a warehouse.
Warehouses pay less, but if you’re in a production then its way higher.

[vast shuttle]

just got the apex perorator after 10 runs so fking nice

[steel ridge]

wouldnt you just craft a main hand anyway until you get a mythic weapon from vault?

[vast shuttle]

i have a main hand craft

needed second

[balmy condor]

54 m2 studio apartment with a bathroom, how much do you think

In my area

[tawny geyser]

Thats like 1500+ for sure

[golden loom]

with a bathroom makes me scared that there is an option without it

[steel ridge]

5k

[novel star]

2k

like

2.2

or something

[golden loom]

from memory it was like 3800 last we talked about this

[novel star]

surely not

[grim jay]

4200

[red schooner]

2600

[steel ridge]

i heard of people living in tents in backyards

[balmy condor]

54.3 m2

[novel star]

fuck me

[tawny geyser]

Thats just insane… if you live alone its impossible to pay it. You literally have to work whole month just for the rent.

[grim jay]

suck me dry

why am I so good

[vast shuttle]

started this week so have only got 1 vault no dagger in it. so needed to grind for a 675 dagger

[steel ridge]

its your lot probably, you sly bastard

[golden loom]

you have to work 3 jobs to be able to afford rent for a place you have no time to live in

[balmy condor]

And now you know why poverty line is 108k

[steel ridge]

ye thats whats crazy to me

[red schooner]

That's 9 times more than my mortgage on a house

[balmy condor]

When rent alone is 50,400

[grim jay]

I wish it was, dont have any apartments left, just my house

[steel ridge]

i mean ofc whispyr has a solid position with family owned real estate, otherwise he would probably have to leave the area asap

[placid mist]

Similar unit is ~$700 here in MI, wtf

[tawny geyser]

600€ for a 70m2 Germany.
Small town tho, in Munchen you cant find anything below 1.5k

[balmy condor]

[runic terrace]

Holy shit dude. And I thought Switzerland is expensive 🤔

[grim jay]

well with a poverty line of below 15000 after taxes a year, you'd still need to pay 7200 for that apartment

[steel ridge]

my last appartment was 4.5 euros/m² and even had heated floor.

[tawny geyser]

Meh, Swiss Gehalt is over 5k 🤣

[balmy condor]

Heated floor in California LMAO

[static glacier]

Yo that’s mad cheap

[golden loom]

I would kill for heated floor

[steel ridge]

ye well xD you know germany, its getting quite cold here 😄

[static glacier]

That’s less than a single months rent even

[golden loom]

have it at my parents house ofc but not in my apartment

heated floor in the bathroom might be gods gift to man

[grim jay]

quite cold he says

its probably really average

[runic terrace]

I live in a 4 1/2 bedroom flat with 2 bathrooms, 112 m2, new building, ground floor with garden for $2600 O_o

[static glacier]

Wait that size is 4K a month?

[red schooner]

The forklift guy earning 23 bucks a year would need to work 54 40 hour weeks a year to just pay rent, what even is your state?

[static glacier]

America is cooked

[runic terrace]

And earn $140k/year

[static glacier]

This shit is more expensive than London

[red schooner]

And even London prices upset me

[balmy condor]

Diese ami schwanzlutscher haben nicht mal ne Ahnung das so was gibt Alter, hab mal zufällig in ner konvo über Rollladen geredet und die penner hats vom hocker gehauen

[red schooner]

Though as a northerner most things London upset me

[steel ridge]

LOL

[static glacier]

For £3k you can live central in like 100m sq

[runic terrace]

Oha, Deutsch 🤨 😂

[red schooner]

Yeah nah fuck that

[grim jay]

das land der technologie und des fortschritts

[runic terrace]

Since when does Whysp speak German?

[grim jay]

always

he is partly german

[balmy condor]

26 years

[runic terrace]

I did not know that

[steel ridge]

he even talks german on stream sometimes

its glorious

[golden loom]

Wow I worked 40 hours every week for a year and I am 2 weeks behind on rent!!!!!!!!!!

[runic terrace]

Noooo way?!

[balmy condor]

Next set of videos will have German counterparts too most likely

[runic terrace]

Das muss ich hören @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Cause I’ve seen some viewership metrics and god fucking damn

[runic terrace]

Please tag me

[steel ridge]

biiiiiig

i hope you will have erika as the intro music

[balmy condor]

Wowhead.de gets the same traffic as like the entire English ret guide (a fuck ton)

[golden loom]

I mean there is a reason that a lot of league streamers that easily could stream in english choose to stream in german

[balmy condor]

[steel ridge]

too soon?

[red schooner]

Yeah it's wild

[balmy condor]

Idk if I can monetize that

[royal lantern]

was???

fenster abdunkeln können???????

[red schooner]

Imagine needing to do over 40 a week JUST for fucking rent

[balmy condor]

MIT’M MOTOR?

GIBTS NETT

[golden loom]

I mean I moved into my apartment 7 years ago when I started studying, so I've only had to make the money to pay my rent myself this last year

[steel ridge]

did you tell em about the "kippen" function of our windows?

[balmy condor]

Yeh I had the convo cause it gets hot in the area, like 35c+ and I’m like yeah you could get Rollladen and just have them go down when the sun hits them there’s like sensors for that and whatever you can set that up

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/fenster-kipp-fenster-auf-kipp-window-air-gif-27665524

[steel ridge]

cause we like to lüften?

[royal lantern]

time to scare NA people

[steel ridge]

perfection

[balmy condor]

And they were like YOOOOOOOO WHAT I THOUGHT THEY JUST DID THAT IN LIKE CANADA FOR THE SNOW

[steel ridge]

this channel is now under german occupation, please remain calm and get back to work

[red schooner]

But I come to this channel to escape the mundanity of work

Pls

[balmy condor]

Idk what the fucking English word is for Rollladen lowkey

[steel ridge]

tja

[golden loom]

Blinders?

[steel ridge]

shades?

roll down the shades

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah but they’re motorized shades

Shutters?

[warm vortex]

Whispyr idk if it was here we mentioned it but isnt there smth going on in Germany rn about nuclear power

[steel ridge]

MECHANIZED SHADES

[balmy condor]

For the last like 30 years yes

[warm vortex]

Oof

anyway i need to do maths work

[balmy condor]

Germany has been arguing back and forth about nuclear power for decades

[warm vortex]

perfect time to do the 10 hour trench coat farm

[steel ridge]

we dont have any nuclear power anymore

[balmy condor]

And shut it down

[golden loom]

its the most insane thing ever done

[warm vortex]

Bro isn't it just factual that nuclear power is good tho

[steel ridge]

we have hamsters in our basement for electricity now

[golden loom]

its not good, its the best

sim it

[balmy condor]

Well yeah but the German government also heavily subsidizes solar panels on every new home

[golden loom]

but its not about solar

[balmy condor]

So they’ve replaced a big chunk of that with renewable

[royal lantern]

tbf, i can atleast SOMEWHAT understand that one, even if its still stupid

if you are in a country where having a AC everywhere is kinda normal, it can sound weird when you see other "solutions" for the first time

many people here think that having a AC is just wastefull and could not imagine them being so widespread

[golden loom]

you can do solar wind and nuclear at the same time

[warm vortex]

Ah, least thats better than burning coal and shit

[steel ridge]

people in germany are kinda brainwashed into thinking nuclear power is bad and we cannot have it anymore, while everyone in europe has it and builds new ones

[grim jay]

there is the usual debate over nuclear waste, but the green boys in germany are pretty mental

[golden loom]

but what they are doing is shutting down their nuclear TO FOCUS ON COAL?????????

[balmy condor]

I agree nuclear is good

But that’s just how it is idk

[tawny geyser]

How much do you all pay electricity a month?

[balmy condor]

Take it up with the German parliament

[golden loom]

I might just have to

[grim jay]

we even buy off of countries that use nuclear power

[royal lantern]

it is, but we also have this weird movement where people act as if its a magical solution to everything with 0 problems, which is also not true

[steel ridge]

yes and we have the highest electricity rates in the entire world 😄

[grim jay]

130-ish euro

[tawny geyser]

You’re in Denmark?

[grim jay]

germany

[steel ridge]

we have pretty low rate at 30 cents per KWh

some places go as high as 60 or even more

[soft shale]

holy guacamole

[tawny geyser]

Ah, same. I pay 142€
Its so much man 😦
my fucking Trockner is the big spender

[warm vortex]

Shoutout to patron orders

[golden loom]

also kinda funny how germany decides to shut down their nuclear, the US goes and blows up the Nordstream

[subtle tundra]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

[steel ridge]

during the initial crisis when ukraine started, new contracts where sometimes even 80 cents because of the uncertainty about energy

[warm vortex]

THANKS FOR THE SHOUTOUT!

[grim jay]

I still have hopes for the new gov to get them back up

[golden loom]

yeah I mean it fucked it up for everyone cause europe was so reliant on german energy

[balmy condor]

Also @runic terrace Before I go back to bed, I was a licensed translator like 8-9 years ago but I didn’t renew it cause I don’t write much in German and don’t speak German in professional like legal settings and shit so yeh

[grim jay]

I've paid 480€ a month for gas bro

[steel ridge]

i think most of them are demolished beyond repair already

[golden loom]

like it even made sweden who also was very against nuclear to reconsider

[steel ridge]

would take considerable money to reactivate them

[royal lantern]

Erinnerung das viele sachen aber auch nicht richtig durchgegeben werden oder leute falsch verstehen

z.b zu Kernkraft, wir haben nicht plötzlich alle Kraftwerke abgebaut, die sollten so oder so abgebaut werden weil sie alle auf ihre maximale zulässige haltbarkeit gengangen sind, wir haben halt keine neue gebaut danach

ist halt leicht anderst wie das "die bösen grünen haben uns die kraftwerke abgerissen"

[grim jay]

well there is new technology anyways

like tryan said many were old

[steel ridge]

ye but you know our "mindesthaltbarkeitsdatum"... our nuclear powerplants were industry leading, they could have been prolonged like 20-30 years without problems

[shy axle]

@royal lantern danke

[grim jay]

and the future move for nuclear plants seems to be going towards small facilities

[golden loom]

Theres been a whole bunch of fkin problems getting our plants built but I think we are completely self sufficient now

[shy axle]

building new ones is 40 mrd+

look at gb

not worth it

[runic terrace]

Interesting. Being bilingual could open many doors in the US I guess

[lavish wing]

I dead ass tried importing that word as a talent loadout

[balmy condor]

Hablo un poco español también, pero es más malo que los otros idiomas :3

[runic terrace]

🤣

[royal lantern]

i understand :3

[steel ridge]

whispyr is atleast 4 lingual (english, german, spanish and raidbots)

[lavish wing]

laughs in Balkan, instant 5 languages...

[grim jay]

die bösen grünen ist trotzdem n schönes statement

[steel ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wegen-merkel-merkel-schwurbler-gif-24086787

[shy axle]

i can hear that gif

[balmy condor]

Es suficiente para hablar en la mayoría de las conversaciones, incluso si es lento

[steel ridge]

legend has it, he is still yelling

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-gif-6930705070173779193

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

50+ jährige wenn Grün

[shy axle]

his yell alone is enough to power german electricity for 1000 years

[steel ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/politik-markus-söder-csu-die-grünen-grüne-gif-9442946641540028691

maggus darf nicht fehlen!

[shy axle]

der gude alde foodblogger

[balmy condor]

I think there should be an age limit on voting, like you can’t be younger than 18 or older than 55

[steel ridge]

gottkaiser maggus von bayern, landesvater.

[soft shale]

that would make a lot of sense

kinda only "active contributing" can vote but then there are a lot of problems

[balmy condor]

You lived your life stop fucking voting for dumb shit that won’t impact your life anymore and let people vote for their own future you old fucking twats

[soft shale]

slippery slope

[golden loom]

I loved reading american reactions to when we appointed a 34 year old woman as our prime minister

[lavish wing]

voting should be a privilege not a right, at 18 you should pass a simple test about governance to obtain it

[steel ridge]

very

[steel ridge]

and who holds those tests? prone to abuse.

oh you didnt pass, sorry

[static glacier]

Democracy

[golden loom]

There should be a age limit on leaders though, just fkin retire bro

[static glacier]

Genuinely we’re too far gone - not every voice should hold equal weight

[lavish wing]

i mean if u need to pass a test for a license to run a car, running a country should also require one

[balmy condor]

80 year olds voting for 80 year olds to make it harder for non-80 year olds to vote

Fuck this planet

[static glacier]

Eg why should my views on class design for frost dk hold the same weight as a main of 10 years or their TC

[shy axle]

wegen merkel

[golden loom]

eh I mean that player of 10 years might be jaded and deluded

[static glacier]

Regardless, idk shit about the class

[steel ridge]

drivers license in germany is too complicated anyway

[static glacier]

And I have little to no stake in it

So why should my vote be equal?

[golden loom]

Because you interact with it in one way or another (wow class is a bad example here, more realted to governance)

[static glacier]

Heck why should my vote on vaccination laws be equal to my mother’s - a doctor of 30 years

[balmy condor]

True, I say we make assa single target slower

[lavish wing]

you guys are about to enter the topic that is as old as democracy

[steel ridge]

might aswell get rid of drivers licenses tbh and just allow it at the age of 18 with restrictions on horsepower and lift that restriction by age...

[static glacier]

I say we add some kinda mini game for st sin

Needs more complexity

[golden loom]

one thing we can all agree on, let americans drink before 21

[static glacier]

Or min max

[steel ridge]

wouldnt trust a 18 year old with a 700 hp ferrari or whatnot

[golden loom]

I would trust a 18 year old over a 80 year old in that situation

[royal lantern]

hell no, they allready do enough dumb Stuff over there

[balmy condor]

If only our resources had gameplay but instead blizzard decided to just make it slow

[golden loom]

there was a guy from my village that got his license renewed at 101 years old

I do not wanna see that guy on the road no matter what test he passed

[steel ridge]

ye thats kinda crazy

[golden loom]

sadly he died at 107, goated guy

[lavish wing]

not in a car crash, i suppose

[golden loom]

was still biking around the village at 100+, complete chad so no offense meant to the previous statment

[steel ridge]

uncle of my sisters husband bought a new bmw at 95 years old or something

[balmy condor]

What if he passed a cock inspection, I think that would be impressive, I mean he’s obviously got huge fucking balls to be driving around at 101

[steel ridge]

cause his previous E46 coupe was rather uncomfy

[shy axle]

i love those old chaps in my little city

[steel ridge]

[golden loom]

he was like a pastor, and wanna know how old he was when he released his first CD? at 96

[shy axle]

everyone worked at basf and they just jabber about die anelin all family outings

[lavish wing]

a cd?

[golden loom]

with songs

[balmy condor]

Jesus Christ is my

Nvm

[subtle tundra]

i approve

[golden loom]

pretty neat thing though, he lived until 107 and my great-grandmother lived like 100 meters away from him and she lived until 105

[lavish wing]

so u saying theres smth in the ground

[balmy condor]

So what you’re saying is you have a long time to be miserable

[steel ridge]

°_°

[golden loom]

idk she had a great time I think, when she moved to the old people home when she was 101, she had a glass of brandy every evening

[steel ridge]

whispyr always the positive sunshine guy

[balmy condor]

Sorry my German came out

[steel ridge]

[lavish wing]

I guess she wasnt rogue main

[shy axle]

undead main

[lavish wing]

bruh

[golden loom]

[lavish wing]

cheat death proc

[balmy condor]

SPAẞ IS FÜR SPATZEN

[steel ridge]

i read that in your grandmothers voice

[lavish wing]

I read that in... nvm...

[swift roost]

Warum

[balmy condor]

I read it in English, whys it say spab

[golden loom]

ive forgotten how to write the ss on keyboard

[subtle tundra]

i want prozac

[balmy condor]

Alt + 255

Or 225

One of those

[swift roost]

ẞ ß

[steel ridge]

well its an actual key on my qwertz keyboard

[subtle tundra]

𓀐𓂸

[steel ridge]

right of 0

[lavish wing]

https://tenor.com/view/german-little-gif-11677190

[steel ridge]

ß superiority

[swift roost]

German keyboard rühls hart

[winged sun]

[steel ridge]

cherry made in germany ofc

probably china tho

its 99% china

[swift roost]

Kina?

[steel ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-gif-284632875632280687

atleast it says "designed in germany" on the back, so i guess that counts

[hearty reef]

!mistakes

[steel ridge]

gz you are perfect

[grand trail]

coimming back

[shrewd night]

Imagine paying for something you can just loot

[grand trail]

yeah imagine not looting anything in one motnh of mythic raiding

btw that circlet is not replaceable right for assa?

[subtle tundra]

what even is that

[earnest remnant]

boots

[grand trail]

mythic boe boots

[subtle tundra]

oh lol

L

1.8 mil?

[grand trail]

yeah

[subtle tundra]

for some fucking boots?

holy L

[golden loom]

I have 200k on all my chars combined

[grand trail]

they go for lot

[subtle tundra]

yeah L

[shrewd night]

Shame I got mine while they were still bop

[grand trail]

and they were like 1,2% for me

you are gamer koffing 😄

[subtle tundra]

bruh

[grand trail]

we got one mythic boe so far

and it was bound

[shrewd night]

Think we looted like

4

[subtle tundra]

we had 3

all first week

then NONE

[red schooner]

0 so far

The fuck

[grand trail]

are you doing some extra trash for that or what

[golden loom]

I think we are at 0

[subtle tundra]

what extra trash

they only drop from the elites

so like 10 mobs in the whole raid

[grand trail]

yeah idk about that

not even sure if we killing those or not

[subtle tundra]

they are mostly in the way of bosses

[shrewd night]

We didnt go out of our way to kill elites, but if there were some nearby when we passed trash or were stopping for the day, wed just go do them

[grand trail]

cool

[subtle tundra]

idk 1.8 mil gold for 45 mythic crests does not seem worth

[shrewd night]

It will be a great contribution to our slushfund for cauldrons and vantus runes

[spice surge]

Poor man detected

[grand trail]

it isnt but /we

i was sitting at 664

[subtle tundra]

we mythic boost i aint poor

[grand trail]

now im 665 very pog

[golden loom]

soon you are rich in real life aswell when sub runs out

[subtle tundra]

im rich with experiences

by living my life

[shrewd night]

[grand trail]

i like to to support blizzard

really like their games

very pog

[shrewd night]

we mythic boost

I live my life

Pick one

[subtle tundra]

erm

im quitting

[golden loom]

im rich by currently drinking a very tasty pint of beer that was left here by a friend last week (free beer infinte money hack)

[spice surge]

(not asked for)

[subtle tundra]

i hope its not beer left in the open

[grand trail]

im getting head too not sure if under 3m is realistic this week tho

[golden loom]

no it was left in my fridge ofc

i am not a psycho

[subtle tundra]

erm i want to drink this weekend too

buy its ughgmhmgmhm

race week

in the morning

[golden loom]

8 am wooo

[grand trail]

race will be crazy this week

i can feel lit

it

[spice surge]

Is that some wroom wroom f1 type shit

[golden loom]

atleast its back to normal times after this race

yeah f1 wroom wroom car around in circle

[subtle tundra]

its more of a soap opera

nowadays

[spice surge]

So ive heard

[stiff badger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[earnest remnant]

this aint nascar buddy

this aint CIRCLES

[golden loom]

true my bad

[grim jay]

Watching races is close to watching soccer, but I can atleast respect the athletes in racing

So its boring but not as bad

[shrewd night]

When you say races

[golden loom]

I just watch to see my goat max win

[shrewd night]

What do you actually mean

Because weird brits would say thats horses

[grim jay]

Im german

Races are full of gasoline

[soft shale]

horse racing is also big here but i have never watched one

[grim jay]

And the smell of burned rubber

[soft shale]

but people also love motorcycle ones

[golden loom]

my uncle has horses and goes over to sweden a lot to race them, or atleast used to

[grim jay]

Horse races are some peaky blinders shit

Do people even watch those?

[golden loom]

im billy kimbaaa

[grim jay]

Not old people*

[earnest remnant]

cars go vroom

[soft shale]

think most people bet more than watch

[golden loom]

the best basketball player in the world watches horse racing so it must be good

[grim jay]

He and I have something in common

We dont know who the other person is

[golden loom]

Nikola jokic the goat

[grim jay]

Fair

[grim jay]

Nikola sounds like a girl

[golden loom]

only reason I would wanna be in the us is that it would be easier to follow the nba

[lost wharf]

For a second I thought this whole conversation was about to become a ToS-nightmare.

[grim jay]

Meownar collects feet of all races

He aint discriminating

[shrewd night]

For legal reasons, I am not collecting races. Slavery was abolished many, many years ago.

[earnest remnant]

[grim jay]

Pretty sus that the first thing you say is that

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fbi-federal-bureau-of-gif-8514161478359178167

[subtle tundra]

tralalallallalla SHOOT ME

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/billie-joe-amstrong-green-day-smile-bizarre-water-pistol-gif-20607450

[grand trail]

any big brains around https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eCyH2AD3bxJKcttUrEYggi

how strong is the circlet for assa?

i though its like bis not replaceable

[quiet oar]

Ill give you a backshot

[subtle tundra]

check if its giving you mastery

its really important you have mastery as your highest stat for both circlet and signet

[grand trail]

damn u r right

i have like 15k crit and 15,05k mastery 😄

so the alchermy shit can fuck me up

[unique solstice]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[steady sphinx]

guys do we still play bleed build in +12? Or when do we switch to hybrid?

cinderbrew f.e.

[blazing pumice]

my grandma can do +12s

just play bleed

[spice surge]

Idk dont think theres a reason to not play bleed anywhere

[tacit hedge]

I think bleed makes sense in open world or lower keys

[stuck knoll]

Fantastic gif

[tacit hedge]

where mobs die too fast for your full roation

[stuck knoll]

Bleed is absolutely fine in high keys

It does big dam

Or well higher keys idk I’ve not done 16/17 so idk what is up there

12 is absolutely fine to play bleed

[royal lantern]

it does higher Boss dmg aswell

well, its still assa m+ boss dmg, so nothing great

"hybrid" is more for focusing 1 guy in a big pull down

[spice surge]

Theres very little difference in any sort of damage profile

[royal lantern]

apply bleeds, spatter from a big guy

keep bleeds up

[spice surge]

Pretty much every buff theyve done since s1 has been more beneficial to bleed than the others

Which is why its started to get more attention now, and why the old "its mostly for low keys" things dont apply anymore

[stuck knoll]

@indigo sphinx was pumping in keys with it

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[indigo sphinx]

[steady sphinx]

fine, thanks ❤️

[stuck knoll]

[spice spire]

Blindside my goat..

[grim jay]

I was pleasantly surprised

Its really well made

[stuck knoll]

The ai cat ones just make me laugh so much

[soft shale]

i have a weakness for the ai wizard cat ones

idk why

im a simple man

[coral walrus]

Best assa talents in your opinions in keys 14-16?

[hidden torrent]

Bleed talents

[red schooner]

Crab build

[coral walrus]

what's crab?

[red schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-crab-knife-mg-excelsus-gif-26926901

[red schooner]

You assign points on your talent tree so that it resembles a crab

[hexed pumice]

just a quick question, cuz i'm trying to get a deeper understanding especially for boss damage to include lingering darkness, cuz I guess lining that up with deathmark combo would be really good? but when I'm standing in front of dummy doing the rotation for 4 minutes with break, it only proced once? How does it exactly work? Consuming 3 stacks of the mark or 'expiring' the 30s buff doesn't do anything right now xD

[versed gulch]

Then the knife talents are the optional ones?

[red schooner]

Lingering darkness is applied when deathmark ends

So you can't line up lingering with another deathmark window

[versed gulch]

Should I be sending the magnet trinket during Lingering Darkness every time regardless of stacks? Feel like I waste stacks a lot either forgetting them or saving them for an amp moment.

[spice spire]

Yes

[hexed pumice]

oh yea holy nvm

im sick and i confused deathmark with darkest night xD

[versed gulch]

Ty. That makes sense. It was my shower thought this morning when I realized I had probably been using it wrong for weeks.

[spice spire]

[red schooner]

Ye nw it happens!

Get better soon

[versed gulch]

Also, I'm having a rogue existential crisis. My parses in raid are beyond bad. Though I do well enough at least in relation to the group in M+

[spice spire]

Why is that

Like why do you think they’re bad

[stuck knoll]

You need to max out your combo points and envenom to consume buff and reapply mark

It’s a really big hitting envenom

[hexed pumice]

yea i got it already as i wrote above, ty;p

[versed gulch]

Honestly, no clue. Definitely not perfect with the rotation. But I understand it and execute it better than a 20 gray parse. Or I'm just inconsolably bad.

Granted I'm looking at a fight like Heroic Mugzee and I doubt we do the fight in a way that lends itself to parsing

[stuck knoll]

You could send a log to have people look at it

[versed gulch]

No PI, often no shaman buff. We run the gaols out 80 yards and expect everyone to participate

[red schooner]

Yeah quake loves reviewing logs

[stuck knoll]

Wait everyone goes in the gaols every time?

[versed gulch]

We're special like that.

[stuck knoll]

That will also not help cuz you’re kinda meant to just hit boss and spatter the gaols

So if they’re not nearby and you’re not on boss it is quite pepehandos

[hexed pumice]

is there any special thing we can do with the lingering darkness buff in m+? cuz I know u can dry shiv in raid with double shiv, hmm but now i think even with one shiv u could line it up with darkest night and lingering darkness

[stuck knoll]

No double shiv doesn’t actually matter for dry shiving

[hexed pumice]

yea i figured it out as i was writing that xD

[versed gulch]

That makes me feel better. Boss is almost never close enough to the adds to hit with any AOE. I can hit high 60s to low 80s on the earlier fights.

[red schooner]

Not sure, I don't think it really changes our playstyle a whole bunch. We'd be sending shiv anyhow because sitting on a shiv for 30s would be pointless.

[stuck knoll]

Ye assa spatter works through the walls so all the other logs will be done with the rogue getting to stay on boss and spattering 2x at the same time

Going into the gaols + no spattering is uh no beauno as they say

[versed gulch]

I basically gave up and swapped to pure single target. Figured it was the better option the way we killed it

[red schooner]

I convinced my raid leader to let me spatter then I got selected as the gaol target for half the remaining pulls that night

The game is punishing me for my hubris

[spice spire]

Real

[versed gulch]

We're working on Gallywix now. But that one doesn't seem like it's going to take more than another night or two.

I have been getting used to Sub and Outlaw too. Figure when we get to Richard Assassination is going to be a lost cause.

[red schooner]

I mean our guild killed it with 2 sin rogues and a fire mage

So, ye

It's fine

[versed gulch]

I don't mind. It's nice that all 3 specs work. I abandoned my hunter because every tier BM was the play.

[grim jay]

Mostly depends on how dented the people on the specs that can do barrels are

[red schooner]

Our raid leader had to threaten violence but they eventually learnt

Both rogues were meant to be benched that night for it but then other people had to drop out, so, we adapt

[grim hornet]

About this, i was wondering yesterday. Do generate to 7 CP even with the shiv buff so its a 10 CP envenom? I have been finishing at 4 so its 4+3 from supercharger, but don't know if this is the go to

same with the rule of finishing at 5+ cp w/o darkest night, if i have supercharger i just finish at 2cp just to cicle asap to the next darkest night

[spice surge]

Nah finish as usual

Not worth playing around superchargers

[midnight atlas]

is the bug where if you got DN and you ambush you apply DM but the stacks wont be consumed until DN expires still present?

[spice surge]

Yes, you cannot consume any marks when DN is up

[midnight atlas]

good to know

[grim jay]

That isnt a bug tho iirc

Wasnt it added that way?

[midnight atlas]

just because it was added doesnt mean its not a bug.

if i was working on it i would try to make it so that if you ambush with DN up you apply DM to target and lose DN so you can consume stacks correctly

[stuck knoll]

What Eleem said re: super charger