assassination

[balmy condor]

he would be like 20 yards left

for no apparent reason

[grim jay]

Thanks eleem

[balmy condor]

padding uptime out of his fucking gourd

[grim jay]

Thank you so much

Now its in my head

[spice surge]

My group after asking them to not kill small adds so i get insane funnel value in keys

I see 2+ targets, i must starfall

[golden loom]

Mob on screen mob die

[zenith elm]

On second boss of rookery

See adds? Destroy adds, nothing for rogue

[subtle tundra]

brother and youre saying french arent

[zenith elm]

You've never seen a german belgian, and it shows

And a french belgian is like the opposite of arrogant, cause we are dumb

[midnight mist]

hey

[zenith elm]

They are mean

[subtle tundra]

i am real

[royal lantern]

you dont want the varas D?

[shadow belfry]

damn holy sheitza

@balmy condor this build feels soo good

avg 5m

[humble verge]

this is the bleed build right

[real pike]

Which one

[zenith elm]

Yes

[spice surge]

Imp ambush over tight spender

But yes

[midnight mist]

nono i do

[humble verge]

ya think sååå?

[real pike]

How do you use DM here? Just on a big target, any big target that'll live for the whole duration?

[humble verge]

from what i see yes

gonna try this in a 14 floodgate

wish me luck

kekw

[real pike]

Lmao gl

[humble verge]

well, pala didnt let the dh get aggro and died rofl

[warm vortex]

Guys

i found the HuD i want

[zenith elm]

Key lvl?

[humble verge]

14

ok

we got to big momma

lets see the dps

ass 72% uptime tho

idk

on CT

[warm vortex]

Damn 14

Big boy

[humble verge]

idk feel like playing the normal build

might be more worth to run this in pisslow keys

[warm vortex]

Yea

Feel like hbrid is better when it gets higher tbh

But yea i feel behind, nearly timed all 12s

[zenith elm]

I'll try the 12s this week and then 13, lets pray i do good 🫡

[warm vortex]

Bbf

*Tbf

assa is doing better than BM im p sure

So if i was plaing assa main id prolly be able to do hihger

But thatmight just be cope

[golden loom]

I ruined my page with a 11 top, all others 10

[real pike]

is this first pull

do 10-12 count as 'low' keys? I've been running hybrid in them but wondering if bleed would be better

[zenith elm]

apparently, yes

[humble verge]

it was yes

[zenith elm]

until 14

[real pike]

fed up with my guild's ret beating me on overall but that's probably just because I'm bad

[zenith elm]

Poor pala

[zenith elm]

Try to ask smth complex before key, that will fry their brain

[balmy condor]

“Low keys” are defined as “whatever key level you’re doing” by people with more io than you

Get fucking woke

[zenith elm]

So bleed build always better? noted

I'll only play bleed then 🙂

[balmy condor]

I mean I’m gonna be real

[real pike]

fk

[balmy condor]

Ye

It is better everywhere

[zenith elm]

Whuuuuut

[real pike]

bleed seems to be bigger dam at all levels from what I see

[balmy condor]

People play hybrid in giga high keys for boss damage

[real pike]

BUT is the prio damage from hybrid worth the smoler numbers

[balmy condor]

But hybrid does less boss damage

So

???

[zenith elm]

Really?

[real pike]

just to check this is not a typo

[balmy condor]

Bleed does the same or better prio damage get woke

[zenith elm]

more boss dmg and i dont have to think about kingsbane????

whuuuut

[red schooner]

I really need to try bleed build one day. I am bad with change.

[real pike]

fck this CT funnel

[balmy condor]

Correct

[zenith elm]

I have been awoken to the ways of the bleed

[balmy condor]

Blindside and zoldyck are strong

Ambush 40% buff is big number

Blindside good talent

[zenith elm]

Thank you King @balmy condor for showing the way

[red schooner]

How does it change the rotation for bleed build? I know we CT in ST in bleed build. AoE is it just bleeds up, do some spatter and shiv on cd?

I need to try it out

[shadow belfry]

went toe 2 toe with a 666 ilvl 3k io unholy dk i approve of november 2023 build

[balmy condor]

You CT in st, shiv in aoe for the bleed damage, and fok on 3

[zenith elm]

Do we try to shiv after 35 percent? for zoldick?

[balmy condor]

Sure

[red schooner]

Okay ty i'll give it a try.

[golden loom]

Shiv into refreshed CT into HOLY DEMISE

[balmy condor]

Yeah new build (November 2023)

Insane

[red schooner]

I'm not the best at trying new things, hence why I'm a one class one spec Andy for the most part

[zenith elm]

You are driving Whispyr insane

stop it guys

[balmy condor]

I’m already insane

[shadow belfry]

there we go fixed ^.^

[red schooner]

We did that a while ago

TBF

[golden loom]

Quick! Rik Reverb time!!!

[red schooner]

No

[shadow belfry]

boss dmg is kinda sleepy tho im ngl

[zenith elm]

R-r-r-r-r-r-r-riiiiiiiik REVEEEEEEERB

[rotund oak]

not my taste but if it works for you

[zenith elm]

Yeah, we cant pad on adds that much

[shadow belfry]

I did try to garrote backline off fresh vanish thinking i had iron wire lmao

[zenith elm]

Love that fight tbh

[rotund oak]

whispyr typing

[balmy condor]

It’s more apm and more damage in single target what is there to complain

Build is huge

[zenith elm]

Yes i wanna try the build, please i need to be home

[warm vortex]

663 fire mage btw

[zenith elm]

BIS spec

you dont understand

[rotund oak]

tank dmg fmage

did more overalls last patch

[balmy condor]

Prot war would’ve done 2.4

[zenith elm]

I'd be embarassed having as much dmg as BDK

[rotund oak]

bro doesnt FS or something

busts irl or something

[balmy condor]

Unbound combust

[rotund oak]

yeah that looks wrong

[zenith elm]

Damn

just HOW

[balmy condor]

Not working

[zenith elm]

Maybe he got not haste

[balmy condor]

Yep

[golden loom]

Stat issue

[zenith elm]

No*

[balmy condor]

Yeah the bdk got 3 more combusts

[zenith elm]

Damn, he on fire

He gave it to the BDK, thats kind

[warm vortex]

I mean he had 8 minutes of combust

no idea if thats low or not kek

[balmy condor]

My joke didn’t hit

[rotund oak]

8mins doesnt mean they are good busts though

[zenith elm]

depends about the overall time of combat

[rotund oak]

no haste is slower gcs

means less casts into bust windows

[warm vortex]

Im p sure the fucking

Yknow the massive non elite pack

[zenith elm]

i can bust after

[warm vortex]

before the lutenant

[balmy condor]

What if he just stands there and hard casts pyro

[warm vortex]

He ran up, got agro, shadowmelded and killed the group

As we were sitting there

[balmy condor]

Ever thought of that

[warm vortex]

Idk has the fire mage ever thought of playing the fucking game right

Also i only just noticed

"caaptainblud"

[zenith elm]

Maybe he likes hard busting pyroblast

[balmy condor]

Harsh words from a rat

[rotund oak]

he doesnt for sure,that much i can tell

[zenith elm]

You're playing BM

that aint playing

[warm vortex]

agressive squaky noises

I mean tbh i'm having to focus more on my rota as BM than assa

[vapid sierra]

I heard assass rotation is easier than ever

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-dance-gif-gif-7064682401296407403

[warm vortex]

prolly cause the rota has been burned into my brain

[balmy condor]

True

[zenith elm]

And with bleed build

its even easier

and i love it

[rotund oak]

we hybrid though

[warm vortex]

Bleed is the exact same rota no?

[vapid sierra]

What about min maxes/getting the most out of the spec

[balmy condor]

We don’t do that here

[zenith elm]

Never do that, too much work

[warm vortex]

Also

My rats nearly outdpsed him

My fucking rats

[red schooner]

No pooling, just hit buttons

[zenith elm]

Please

[balmy condor]

Min-max doesn’t exist on this spec

[red schooner]

Life is okay

[zenith elm]

i wanna see the third name

[balmy condor]

It just plays itself

[warm vortex]

It's just the hero tree summon

Lmao

[zenith elm]

Ooooh

[iron vapor]

No pooling, just spending.

[zenith elm]

i love assa tbh

[warm vortex]

Imo pretty weak

and needs a buff

Bear not strong enough

[vapid sierra]

Interesting, I find that my dps/parse is hard stuck in the 70-80’s with proper rotation

Could be outlaw gear and trinks at that point

[rotund oak]

bear is idk,how do we even sspawn it

[zenith elm]

How often do you have Bear ?

[rotund oak]

like 3 BWs

[rotund oak]

or something

[zenith elm]

Whats your stats ?

[balmy condor]

I love assa too but mostly cause there’s so much talent variance possible, rotation is absolutely brainrot as fuck though

[warm vortex]

Beastial wrath makes it skip 25 sec

And kill command reduces it by like 0.5 seconds

[rotund oak]

yup

autopillot spec

[vapid sierra]

18% haste and the rest of it vers

[warm vortex]

So the entire gamplay loop of bm rn is trying to cycle through your BWs as fast as you can

[zenith elm]

Mastery?

[warm vortex]

He is outlaw

[vapid sierra]

14% I think? I’m outlaw geared

[warm vortex]

Im sure its just crit vers gaming

Yeas

[zenith elm]

Yeah, thats why as assa you do no dmg

[warm vortex]

But to asnwer you question bel

Idk

[zenith elm]

You need at least 18k

[warm vortex]

I just try and get the bear out as much as i can

[little tulip]

38% crit 41% mastery reeee

[warm vortex]

And if the pack is about to die i hold

[zenith elm]

more like 20k/21k

[vapid sierra]

Guy mentioned yesterday stats on sin don’t matter, I assumed ilvl+ agi were the big things

That would makes sense

[warm vortex]

It's moreso like

so you don't just brainlessly pile on stats

[balmy condor]

I mean yeh that’s why you’re 70-80 already

[warm vortex]

That's what it means i think

[zenith elm]

i just discovered my trinket got rekt by my other trinket

[rotund oak]

guy was right,they dont but try to favor some mastery outside that whatever

[warm vortex]

BM stats

[vapid sierra]

I’ll honestly probably craft a neck and get some side gear going

[balmy condor]

Are you using a signet of the priory

[vapid sierra]

Eventually

[zenith elm]

yes

[balmy condor]

Not you

[zenith elm]

oooh sorry

[vapid sierra]

Me?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[rotund oak]

thats alot of crit

[warm vortex]

Also guys

have a rat group photo

[warm vortex]

ea

*Yea

Bm likes crit

[vapid sierra]

I’m running gooner + magnet but I have beebuzzer, and vexie trink

[warm vortex]

Tbh BM likes haste/crit/mast

Vers is yucky stinky

[balmy condor]

Holy fuck yeah you’re cooked dawg

[vapid sierra]

Lmao

[rotund oak]

yeah i thought more haste/mast but im cooking my crafts soon,gonna push some crit in

cool cool

[warm vortex]

I'd still suggest simming of course but yea

[vapid sierra]

I’ll farm the big dps items (neck, trinket,weapon and ring)

[warm vortex]

also vex im just imagining your character as your pfp

[rotund oak]

outside vers being bad bm doesnt rly care ig

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[warm vortex]

Just exact same amount of polygons

[balmy condor]

You’ll be aight

[zenith elm]

are we using cinderbrew neck if we have too much crit ? i have like 14k versus 18k mast and sometimes when trinket proc + flask proc, i get priory as crit for my pull

[warm vortex]

ideal outlaw gamer

[balmy condor]

Sim

[warm vortex]

Cuase its:
more pet damage / more pet damage / more pet damage

[rotund oak]

yup

[warm vortex]

It's why PI is insane

[zenith elm]

and vers dosnt ?

[warm vortex]

It's more pet damage

Gives less pet damage than the others

But i guess it's better than literally nothing because it's still pet damage

But not as much pet damage as the other 3

[rotund oak]

pet dmg also scales from wpn dmg

aight?

[radiant raven]

ratpack, 10/10

[fickle light]

how does spatter work on mugzee? do i need to stand in a specific spot or is it all down to boss position?

[zenith elm]

boss position

[warm vortex]

Actually i have no idea

[zenith elm]

he need to be in the middle

[warm vortex]

I'll have to ask

[zenith elm]

of both prison

[fickle light]

is it super tight positioning?

[warm vortex]

Just play fire mage and do that insane double tp

[vapid sierra]

Not far off

Or at least that’s how it look in raid when I fuck up a mechanic

[warm vortex]

Haha

Also i know ive said this before but fuck killing spree

They could make it so much cooler

but they don

[zenith elm]

if its in the middle no, if the prison are too far apart, yes

you got 5 m radius starting from the boss

[fickle light]

ty

[little tulip]

it'd be better if you could cast a few spells like rtb/kir/evasion while it's sending

[half igloo]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[half igloo]

@ember kindle

[little tulip]

sucks that i still can't get rid of cyrces tho u_u

[half igloo]

think assa will wear it the rest of patch

the wayit is rn

[little tulip]

what a cursed and sus ring

[half igloo]

(I could be lying)

[soft shale]

ring is good big mastery

[warm vortex]

I mean that ring kinda lookin....

[little tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-emblem-karel-lloyd-blazing-blade-fe7-gif-14949585599083316120

ye need 2 myth track rings to delet

😦

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[amber brook]

Master splinter?

[warm vortex]

Haha yes

[amber brook]

Hopefully shredder doesnt appear

[warm vortex]

They have a 100% damage taken debuffs from the mechs in floodgate

Ik that is a diff kind of shredder

But it counts

[zenith elm]

i reaaally wanna get home and try the bleed build tonight

[cold zealot]

dumb question but is there work around thistle tea auto use ?

[amber brook]

dont proc it

thats it

[cold zealot]

F

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter much if you auto proc it

Most of the value comes from the energy anyway

[zenith elm]

@spice surge how did you do that much sudden demise in your clip btw?

[spice surge]

Thats just what it does

When you have deathmark up you have more bleed damage

[zenith elm]

So you deathmark at what? 70 percent/ 50 percent?

for end of deathmark sudden demise?

[spice surge]

No

[ionic hill]

bleed build on +12 priory just now ❤️

[spice surge]

You dont deathmark for demise

Its just, if it happens it happens

Dont delay it

[royal lantern]

prioriy is the ultimate pad dungeon with cinderbrew, but allright

[ionic hill]

I just wanted to shit on boomkins tbh

[royal lantern]

based

[ionic hill]

[royal lantern]

fuck boommins

[cold zealot]

i alt boomy 😦

[zenith elm]

Dang you pumped, boss dmg? how is it looking?

[ionic hill]

never ask a man his salary
a woman her age
an assassination his boss damage

tbf hybrid boss damage is nice but I was on bleed build lol

[harsh wraith]

Truth was spoken.

[versed gulch]

Yeah man my damage is boss but not boss damage if you know what I mean

[royal lantern]

i mean

it isnt

they do the same

assa boss dmg is not great no matter what you do

[ionic hill]

doesnt KB help a little 😦

[little tulip]

i mean if you can get uptime with cloak or like

good sprint usage

you can do alright

parked caustic on 3 barrels and dps'd rik today lmao

[royal lantern]

what are you talking about

[ionic hill]

sadge

[royal lantern]

not really

assa is like unholy dk

good aoe, bad st

[lethal heart]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rocky zodiac]

When you play Sanguine Blades in m+ hybrid build, do you play around it or just play normally?

[royal lantern]

the "builds" just shuffle dmg around a bit, not change how much dmg you do

[latent umbra]

what r the macros command here?

anyone can help me out?

[zenith elm]

Apparently it does more dmg in boss dmg? for bleed build

[spice surge]

Blindside good

[spice spire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[latent umbra]

thank you

[mystic osprey]

Any log reviewers in chat

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pxdJMD7XHc8V2GQP

Hugsnstabs

[subtle tundra]

WRONG.

demise maxxing

[spice surge]

TRUE

My bad my bad

[spice spire]

No

[royal lantern]

you dont play wow anymore

[spice surge]

I only got a 25M hit in the last key i did, gotta step it up

[subtle tundra]

i still have a sub

i subbed on monday fuck my life

[hardy dagger]

It's like exang gotta get max duration bleeds up

[hardy dagger]

[golden loom]

punished gg

[subtle tundra]

shoulve done more 11s dummy

[golden loom]

I dont even want the crit mastery cloak cause I like my dumb jetpack..

[subtle tundra]

i have no idea what youre on about

[ionic hill]

thats a nice belt if you spec into subtlety every now and then

[golden loom]

I already crafted belt sadly

[lethal heart]

i wish my weekly 10 pug tanks were more predictable

so i can ditch double vanish

[subtle tundra]

so sorry man, youre still playing

[lethal heart]

why?

[drifting cloud]

varas dont be that guy

[ionic hill]

this sims higher than any other cloak for me lol, plus the added "wee" ability is nice

[lethal heart]

did you quit?

or did you reroll

[drifting cloud]

that talks about his gametime for a month straight

[subtle tundra]

no i wont!!!!!!!!! i swear

[subtle tundra]

[drifting cloud]

[subtle tundra]

i do need poe....

[hardy dagger]

Y'all have to quit with me

[drifting cloud]

1 or 2

[royal lantern]

and take what else instead

[lethal heart]

idk even lethality

[dense cove]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[lethal heart]

but at the end of last season i liked

[subtle tundra]

pulls are way too short in 10s for double vanish, but tanks are too bad to ditch it

[lethal heart]

but that was for the 16s/17s last season

coz iwas big pusher ofc (no)

[subtle tundra]

you were dont downplay yourself. title gamer

[lethal heart]

[ionic hill]

wait does bleed build take blindside now

[royal lantern]

iirc supercharger is fairly worse in m+ now

[subtle tundra]

so was last season

[royal lantern]

man, if we had pins or a guide, would be cool right

[lethal heart]

it was worse in sims for overall damage i think but at least i liked that few extra inches of st

preference for me

i hated not playing the double envenom shit too

felt so fking bad

[royal lantern]

extra inches?

[subtle tundra]

em its all in your brain

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[subtle tundra]

subterfuge is good too for st

[ionic hill]

yee I just saw on guide

rip tight spender

[lethal heart]

same

but new league wont be there till like june or sth

[royal lantern]

play poe instead

they just made offical turnbased mode for poe1

[subtle tundra]

i refuse to pay for poe2

considering ill dislike the gameplay a lot

[lethal heart]

i might play poe2 a bit on friday if lots of my friends log in

but im certified hater so

[hidden bay]

[subtle tundra]

i need to know how much similar last epoch gameplay is to poe

[royal lantern]

it says funhoude, where is my fun

[ionic hill]

gz!

[hidden bay]

i worked hard for this!

[zenith elm]

668 house of card daaaaman

[little tulip]

cool website but we always hold shiv for 2 charges even when it's just kingsbane?

[sonic willow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[shy axle]

how do you do your st opener with the bleed build? i guess the start is like normal with ambush (if needed), gar -> build cp with fok/mut -> rupture, but then i would not build to 5 and cast env before using dm + kb, would i just build those 5, use ct and deathmark then? or Dm asap after bleeds up?

[dense cove]

I keep trying to decide if I like bleed or hybrid build, I just can’t decide

[royal lantern]

its literally the same gameplay wdym

[spice spire]

Look at the dry shiv tech in the pins

[royal lantern]

just that 1 presses kingsbane and the other doesnt

[snow hamlet]

how about use raid talent in TOP?

[royal lantern]

if you wanna be ussules, sure

[dense cove]

Yeah but they feel different to me for some reason. Not the gameplay in particular. Not sure what it is. Maybe overall damage comparing between the two

[snow hamlet]

[dense cove]

Doesn’t feel like any simple way to compare my performance between the two. I’m 50/50 on which I like.

[lethal heart]

[little tulip]

marble soda

[royal lantern]

flip a coin

then decide

[ionic hill]

bleed build is superior and you know it deep down

[undone flame]

what is the proc rate of eye of kezan

[ionic hill]

embrace it

[spice surge]

4 rppm

[spice surge]

Yes, apply rupt, gar and ct then send dm

No need for envenom, the envenom is for kb

which you dont have

[shy axle]

ok thank you

[undone flame]

thanks

[shy axle]

i guess in st you just use the 2 shivs to cover dm, in aoe on cd as long as ct is on the target iirc?

[spice surge]

I got them confused, its 5 rppm. (its 4 minutes to stack it up)

[little tulip]

i miss kingsbane already 😦

[zenith elm]

I dont

[coral ibex]

https://x.com/ForeverGuy5/status/1907257175124148682 thanks guy, my RL cares about my existence now

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[iron vapor]

AHH yes, people have begun to understand the zoldyck recipe!

They know our execute POWER

[spice spire]

@sudden brook doing the lord’s work

[spice surge]

I mean assa is decent but its still getting crushed by some other specs in p2+intermission boss damage on logs

[urban iron]

is there like a haste min requirment for assa ST? sims now shows haste as huge dps increase now got only 4%

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[golden loom]

Guess my sim just loves crit

[spice surge]

No PI on the assas, but the top log for warrior is doing like 550M in last phase, top unholy is at 520m and top assa is at like 450m

Obviously only public logs

[iron vapor]

Question about sims: dungeon slice, 6 mins - gives me just over 3M DPS. How does that number come about, because factoring in shit (1.1-1.2M) on single target boss fights I'm not getting particularly close to 3M overall.

Is the dungeon slice just 6 mins of trash packs? Because if so 3M seems low.

[coral ibex]

its a boss then a big pack then a small pack iirc

[iron vapor]

AHH ok, 3M seems about right then I guess.

[spice surge]

Its ~2 minutes of boss and then it randomly spawns randomly sized waves of adds at random intervals

Sometimes it drops combat for a little bit if theres no targets etc

[spice spire]

Has your crit cratered like mine?

[golden loom]

22380 mastery 10026 crit 6800 haste 3455 vers before taking anything from vault

[dense cove]

@spice surge could I send you 2 mythic fight logs for when you get free?

[iron vapor]

My crit has gone through the roof in the last few weeks, I'm on 38% with only 41% mastery. Even playing death stalker though Sims aren't recommending I switch out gems/etc for more mastery.

[golden loom]

funny thing is that my current ring is 4600 crit 2200 mastery so maybe my sim loves haste..

[spice spire]

It’s also very strange (but not really) in m+ my st is still begging for haste, but in raid spec it’s still going for crit mast

I have a decent amount of haste too

[golden loom]

I only ever sim for raid

[spice spire]

I do all 3

Only raid one day a week no sense in gearing solely around that

[coral ibex]

wanting haste in m+ seems strange no?

[little tulip]

so are we still running a hybrid build above a 10? im watching the yapp video but it's unclear

[coral ibex]

i thought haste was basically worthless in aoe

[little tulip]

right like we're doing blindside in raid etc

[golden loom]

I only care about 10s in m+ so I just dont really care if my stats are "optimal" or whatever

[spice spire]

For m+ st

[coral ibex]

ahh

[iron vapor]

Hoop of the blighted?

[coral ibex]

yea makes sense

[golden loom]

venture co seal

[iron vapor]

Ahh yeah

[acoustic sky]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[acoustic sky]

thanks buddy

[coral ibex]

anyone else digging up trash to get rep for this jacket https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166998410910498826/1355288458750459984/image.png?ex=67ee50fc&is=67ecff7c&hm=714705aeaa511acf402f26e5148f7ea3d7c51a803982b2bddc9d9c08745bcda9&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1037&height=584

[amber brook]

the unupdated wow analyzer is still useful right?

[coral ibex]

its as useful as an out of date analysis tool can be

its going to say incorrect things

[iron vapor]

It'll tell you the basics, is rupture/garotte/etc up enough, are you using KB/DM on cooldown, shiv at the right time etc.

But it'll also say you missed a load of CTW and that's bad, but it's actually good.

[iron vapor]

Nahhh fuck that, rep grinds are soooo 2005.

[viscid spear]

I feel like I'm close to doing it, maybe next week

[amber brook]

Also, do we cast CT at 5 or 7?

[dry cradle]

Question.. can I just spam garrote and rupture without swapping targets out of stealth to spread it or does that not work without losing dps

[golden loom]

u always finish on 5+, unless u have darkest night where u force 7

[coral ibex]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[dry cradle]

Thanks!

[warm vortex]

Oof

Just failed a 12 priory that was going super well

Tank froze mid boss

[coral ibex]

unlucky

[round coyote]

That’s clean what rep? One of the cartels?

[coral ibex]

its the hidden 5th cartel

they care about trash

you gotta dig in the dirt

[amber brook]

Not envenom but im asumming you meant ct at 5

[coral ibex]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/patch-11-1-cartels-of-undermine-renown-guide#darkfuse-solutions

[jade abyss]

Is it a bug that cloak doesnt prevent the debuff from the soakcycle from second boss priory?

[coral ibex]

so you need 8400 rep for exalted and you get 14-16 rep for doing a scrap dig drop

[red schooner]

I take it the trash piles are the best way to farm that one, I'm still neutral with them but one turn in off friendly

[amber brook]

or farm using the totems

[sage basin]

don't know if it's a bug but, if you want to soak multiple you have to cloak after debuff is applied

[shell crater]

should I do my other wep as my third craft? Don't really know what to craft when I get the sparks lol

[normal mist]

Negative

[sage basin]

offhand is 0 dps, not worth

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are boot/wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" overall, but Blessed Weapon Grip + Dawnthread can be VERY VERY slightly better in m+

Always craft a dagger for at least an offhand. Put Ascencion or Blessed Weapon Grip on it. Additional Crafts should be Boots/Cape/Wrist/Belt for your second embellishment, after that whatever low item level slot is fine, necks can be good crafts.
If you have a myth track weapon in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[shell crater]

ah, wasn't sure if it buffed mutilatel ol

[normal mist]

0 x 0 is still nothing

[sage basin]

you'll get way better value off of any other craft, sim it

[lethal heart]

what is the optimal usage of this

[shell crater]

ooo neck might be good for me

since I have the haste one atm

[normal mist]

It barely matters but sure

Ilvl> stats

[golden loom]

just every finisher, CT/Rupture/Envenom

its just a general finisher rule for us

[candid nacelle]

hey guys one question:
Do you prefer Archon over wowhead bis list?

[normal mist]

No

[golden loom]

oh boy

[normal mist]

Both suck

[candid nacelle]

or just sim?

[normal mist]

Just sim

[jade abyss]

Yeah i know, and i know as dk it works that the debuff doesnt apply thats why i ask

[ionic hill]

im curious of what peeps went with after crafting dagger and boots

[normal mist]

Whatever their lowest ilvl was

[sage basin]

Yeah, it's dumb not justifying how it works currently and didn't know if you knew

[sage basin]

most people just simming to see what their best options are and considering availability of that slot from whatever content they're doing

[ionic hill]

can anyone with raidbots premium help a fellow rogue out this wednesday queue is brutal

trying to see dungeon droptimizer 😦

[viscid spear]

How much is Premium anyway, I always mean to look into it

[ionic hill]

I think its like 5 bucks per month

[jade abyss]

I thank you for your response ❤️

[viscid spear]

Well I already pay the guys here that

[sage basin]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[red schooner]

Just need to bind the first bullet point to a macro

[little tulip]

without a trace is great for last boss on theatre of pain with iron wire, but also having rupture up on multiple targets makes reapplying caustic spatter easier

[devout mirage]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[onyx linden]

Trash was slower then grinding the beach btw

[coral ibex]

you can do the beach?

[onyx linden]

Yeah you get a group of 5 or 4x2 pop the potions and siren pillars and grind 1000s of mobs

Its like 2-3x faster than trash

took me something like 8-9h total

[gusty mirage]

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/W75IozA.png

champion house of cards is better then myth signet of priory?

[viscid spear]

[onyx linden]

Not for me. signet maybe giving you wrong stat

[coral ibex]

which potion is that?

[viscid spear]

We should require the black cloak as mandatory to post in a spec channel

[onyx linden]

The Darkfuse vendor has a potion that gives more drops of the rep item, halves hp and give you a dps buff. At friendly he sells sirens that increase mob dmg but also increase drops

[royal lantern]

the worst Thing about that, is that Guy is still using Twitter

[viscid spear]

Reminds me of the Ordos shenanigans on Timeless Isle

[coral ibex]

huge ty

[viscid spear]

Any particular setup you were doing? Like did you do it as Sin, did you have a specific talent to help, etc

[acoustic roost]

best to do as sub or outlaw for 1hr long trickster tricks

[burnt venture]

Should we be running bleed build on low keys over the hybrid build in like 10-11s? Hybrid Sims higher on DSlice, but I am not convinced.

[acoustic roost]

camp either the left side or ride side and just tag mobs so they get directed to the tank/someone in the middle

[grim jay]

They both are around the same

But one has sudden demise, where the execute is missing in sims

So bleed is probably better everywhere now

[viscid spear]

What is this "tank" you speak of? I meant solo

[acoustic roost]

beach farming isnt a solo thing

there's constantly groups 24/7, at least a week ago there was

[burnt venture]

Thanks lad!

[south prawn]

Advice appreciated

[spice spire]

[south prawn]

Simming is a psyop

[viscid spear]

Calling things a psyop is a psyop

[south prawn]

Calling psyops a psyop is a psyop

[dapper cradle]

bruh bleed build is so fun

[subtle kiln]

How quickly are you psyopping mythic lockensproken?

[south prawn]

Aite u lost me bro i barely know what psyop means

[split veldt]

chest is bis off piece and prolly not gonna see it in vault again

i took it when i saw it week 2 over a tier piece

[gusty mirage]

How is a pig even typing with those hooves?

[split veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[gusty mirage]

Checks out

[south prawn]

oh shit i didnt even consider it

cause i got myth tier chest

wait nvm that cant be right

we shouldnt be using head tier piece no?

haste vers

[split veldt]

you need a little bit of some other stats

but in the grand scheme of things, prolly doesnt matter what tier pieces you use

[viscid spear]

Have you seen what the boys have been working on?

[split veldt]

was just saying that off piece is technically bis

but if you already have myth tier chest

just use the myth tier chest

[subtle kiln]

i has not

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/gallywix-goblin-wow-undermine-gif-16081194718480083741

[stray pilot]

hey all, the advice in here has been a great help but i'm struggling with maintaining energy in a ST boss fight in M+, what are common mistakes that you'd notice in this regard?

[subtle kiln]

not understanding you have no energy for ST fights in m+ build

[spice surge]

You are going to run out energy

No matter what you do

[stray pilot]

noted

[spice surge]

Its not a mistake, as long as you keep rupture and garrote up on the boss youre getting all the energy youre supposed to be getting

[ionic hill]

yeah m+ st will have you starving its intended

[static glacier]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[spice surge]

Which is also why assa has such insane funnel if you can have other mobs around you

[static glacier]

if people complain about your pure st just say tank needs to pull mobs into boss

xd

[spice surge]

Since not only do you not have empty globals, you'd also get 20% agi from scent, more combo points from Fok AND singular focus value

[static glacier]

ct dmg too

[spice surge]

Ye CT too

[viscid spear]

If I can't Spatter, they don't matter

[static glacier]

it's a shame but I think this is what the devs want for sin

[spice surge]

In sims the bis m+ profile does like 1.9-2m on pure ST, but if you do 8 target cleave then the sim does roughly 3.5M priority damage (aka boss damage)

[static glacier]

if more st is all you want play one of the other specs

[subtle kiln]

if you don’t want to run out of energy, play outlaw

[shy axle]

the question i have in my mnd regarding bleed specc, garrote, ct and so on is - do you always try to vanish at like ~ X% mob health in a pack hoping to snipe a instakill from the talent as soon as possible, or is it normal to just have the 5 ruptures and ct active at the end of the (longer) pull

[static glacier]

you vanish for ic

[spice surge]

Which afaik completely dwarfs any other spec in how much value extra mobs provide

[static glacier]

id argue it's bad to vanish for sudden demise

[stray pilot]

ok thanks for all the input and advice!

[static glacier]

if dots already out don't vanish

[spice surge]

Yes you dont vanish for sudden demise

[subtle kiln]

Yeah it’s pretty insane when done right

[vestal cliff]

just had a rogue in my key saying he looses 50% dmg when i chainpull lol

[static glacier]

potentially if your chain is bad, but probably closer to 30

[spice surge]

Its definitely not that high

[subtle kiln]

Sub rogue trying to get TFD up

[coral ibex]

are you chaining or are you dragging 1 mob with 5% hp left to the next pack

[spice surge]

But yes if you pull the next pack while on mob has 2% health left then its not great

If you pull the next pack with 3 mobs at 40% left its fantastic for assa

[coral ibex]

good chaining is literally poggers for us

[static glacier]

they either commit a vanish or they're stuck with ct and manually rupturing

before being able to spatter

• missing gar

[vestal cliff]

yeah ofc thats bad , it was like - the danger is dead > next pack

[spice surge]

Stealth gives us faster bleed applications, but if you chain well you'll already have bleed on the previous mobs

[static glacier]

if there were like 4-5 mobs alive

[spice surge]

So the stealth isnt necessary

[static glacier]

he would be fine unless he was lazy / had no bleeds out

on the mobs that were alive

[coral ibex]

yea idk the rogue was probably complaining more than he should but i also really dont trust tanks that say "nah i chain good trust me"

[static glacier]

best trick I can give to tanks is

check if they have vanish

[spice surge]

Obviously it would be nice to get the stealth, but its not worth standing around killing mobs that do nothing for 30s

[static glacier]

if they do chaining is 100% legal

if they don't give a restealth

guaranteed no complaints

[vestal cliff]

yeah , i main rogue so i think i did it pretty ok

[viscid spear]

Most tanks I've seen understand how Rogues work and are mindful, which I appreciate

[vestal cliff]

i mean with without a trace its pretty easy to fly through

i watch out for our brothers but i still get complains kekw

[static glacier]

tbh with you it takes a lot of chaining for us to run out of vanish and to struggle

[shy axle]

so 5 ruptures and ct is just the standard at the end of a pull?

the value from Sd is not mostly garrote? (buffed ones)

[coral ibex]

what is the concern about the end of a pull

[static glacier]

depends on length of pull / number of mobs

[onyx linden]

I did it as sin bleed spec with fatebound. But it barely matters. As long as you have 2 people pulling 1 per side and preferably a tank in the center, just aoe everything down

[static glacier]

personally if I know a pull is gonna go on for ages I over-dot rupture into pandemic

[coral ibex]

i think you're worried too much about maximizing sudden demise

[static glacier]

so I dont have to reapply rupture to spatter DN on dying mobs

[coral ibex]

just keep your 20 scent stacks and CT up

[shy axle]

i just do not know what the standard is

thats what i am doing

[coral ibex]

then you're doing the standard

[shy axle]

thats fine then, thank you

[coral ibex]

[static glacier]

standard start of pull is 5 rups + spread gar

[spice surge]

Sudden demise exists to prevent you from losing damage. Instead of a target dying with a dot left on em you get 66% of the value the dot had when it dies

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I never thought to look in the group finder.

[static glacier]

standard end is hard to guarantee

[spice surge]

Note that its 66%, not the full 100%, which means that its typically not worth to game around, as there are other things you could be doing that does more

[static glacier]

at least 1 rup 1 gar and ct

[coral ibex]

yea if you spend time rupturing mobs that are about to die at the end of a pack then you're just wasting cp and energy that could be envenom spattering to kill them faster

[onyx linden]

Also the potion buffs range from extremely OP to useless. So you might want to fish for the better potion buff, but also doesn't matter too much. You can get all three buffs if you really feel like it, but its strange and when the first buff expires, all the rest do as well. THey have a 5 min cd

[coral ibex]

its ok for the last 3-5 seconds of a pack to not be optimal, we're a prio damage spec that is bad at dealing with low hp shitters

[static glacier]

highkey, I just send the envenoms dry

if there's like no mob hp and no rup

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I'll have a lot of time next week to really grind it out

[wanton spear]

Highly recomend for m+ to get a nice bleed tracker

[dapper cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/dry-kinky-gif-5075064

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

Did your chaining prevent him from pressing buttons?

Losing 50% damage is impressive

[south prawn]

100% true push the agenda

[vestal cliff]

unplugged his pc with every pack

[nova aspen]

exaggurating

[gusty mirage]

Honestly based

The only time I get mad at chaining is when the tank waits for 1 mob to be at like 10%

Like please chain earlier

[vestal cliff]

yeeep

[fleet pagoda]

yarp

sit up in the chair moment when you're goin into a new pull completely dry

[gusty mirage]

I just do tank damage and carry on with my life

We’re chillin

[fleet pagoda]

can't sleep at the wheel

[gusty mirage]

I mean I’m the same guy who murdered a warlock because I was reading a text during the vine boss on floodgate

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

He said left and I kept going right

Unlucko

I didn’t even know the mechanic went out

[vital haven]

public service

fuck wizards

[fresh mica]

i just did an +14 ML and on the second boss i felt so useless any tips ?

[still ore]

How the heck does one do damage on ST w a m+ build? I run out of energy 24/7

[coral ibex]

thats the spec

[zenith elm]

You run out, but you still hit kinda ok

Thats assa rogue for ya

[still ore]

i hit like wet noodle

[zenith elm]

if there is two target or three target? ooooh boy we are pumping

but one solo target, except in bleed builds at 35 percent we dont do much, except on cooldowns ofc

[still ore]

can barely break 1M on solo bosses

meanwhile rogues on twitch hang around 1.7+

[coral ibex]

absolute numbers are hard to give

definitely an ilvl issue in part

[sonic willow]

Hi, anyone by chance know a weakaura to show total combo points that considers supercharger and forced induction?

[coral ibex]

you can always sim urself in m+ talents on patchwerk with no buffs

to see what ur m+ ST should be

[still ore]

true i'll try that

[quasi coyote]

the rock boss ?

bro that boss has adds

i slam that boss hard

just dot them and send envenoms into boss u have infitine energy when adds are in a boss fight

[fresh mica]

ah okay

just wiped on it

i tried swapping when i could with darkest nighjt

[red schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309952798900752484/1357006900360642740/image.png?ex=67eea2a9&is=67ed5129&hm=e0881fc46e710757641f6a63d6ed5c07c7f5a6228e13a70e43b0f5991215c0fb& Now we await the sims

[fresh mica]

my mistake maybe

[peak bobcat]

guild cant kill bombs on OAB making me play sub gg time to quit

[gusty mirage]

I already miss you Tyler

[haughty flicker]

[peak bobcat]

rogue getting asked to kill shitter adds man what happened

this isnt the class i love

[gusty mirage]

Same

[fallow canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/124169701881282560/1110305168328765440/6an3o7.gif

[idle inlet]

Do we still get the new dinars through renown or is it some other way?

[high walrus]

does dungeon slice sim trinkets correctly?

thought eye of kezan would be awful in m+

[royal lantern]

iirc dslice doesnt drop combat

but not 100% sure

[primal turret]

Hey, does anyone have a plater profile that shows the "prio target" of the packs?

[high walrus]

whatever, eye of kezaning it up for ST

fuck a socket

[nova kelp]

you can get some odd results but generally it's good

I should say unexpected

[high walrus]

is this the Oprahwindfury of our generation

[humble verge]

man

i feel like mechagon is the only dung where i just suck at the opening of the dung

too many low health target

no real main target sadge

[west crown]

Most of what I do on those pulls is just shiving for damage and lots of iron wire to make sure the pull goes smooth

Deathmark feels useless

[little tulip]

my hero signet fully upgraded simmed higher on patchwerk 5 min, but also simmed with no raid buffs etc

[little tulip]

send it anyway one less bomb tonk to kick etc

[spice sentinel]

Is signet set to sim with no other signets in group?

[little tulip]

also a lot of the time rogue can hang back as old pack dies to catch a restealth

just blink in and resume chunking adds

just kinda vibe with ur healer/ranged for a second or two as last add dies

[static glacier]

just gar gar rup ct then keep spreading gar rup

you can beat a lot of classes playing for demise as bleed build

AP shiv lets you snipe demise

[gusty mirage]

There’s parameters in simc for it, but I’m pretty sure you have to manually set them

[spice sentinel]

Thank you. Tbh id rather sim it with none and just know its juicing harder in raid or groups

[spice surge]

No way as of now. Possibly in .5 or .7

[neat jacinth]

.7 would be way too late imo. Then Blizzard can save themselves the trouble, because then there's hardly any point. In my opinion, the crucial point is that you get a BiS item mid-season that you might not otherwise be able to get hold of - because you don't raid mythic, for example, or because everyone wants it or because of bad luck.

[vital haven]

sin has to be good in OAB right?

cause you can chain the darkest night

[humble verge]

its ok

[vital haven]

have you played it on mythic

[humble verge]

still progging on sprock

[royal lantern]

no

the opposite

[spice surge]

Not particularly, the adds live long enough that you cant just darkest night them down and get resets but not long enough that youre actually getting good value by swapping to them

Boss damage is great for sure, especially last phase

[keen mantle]

Does anyone know a way to trade my enhancement trinkets to my rogue?

[humble verge]

ask a CM

[spice surge]

And the bomb set at ~1:50 is really hard unless you have people that do good damage to them, which sub is one of the few specs that can reliably burst them down (another is windwalker)

[gusty mirage]

You’re stuck on the totem class now bud sorry

Time to reroll

[keen mantle]

My bamkin got crazy loot from weekly quest too

every char gets juice except my rogue

[weary spear]

It’s irrelevant to track because there’s no playing around it

[sudden brook]

No spec is doing that much p2 damage while also killing adds in jail

It's just good

[spice surge]

How did bro manage to cook like 20% more damage onto the boss on a spec that doesnt have much to think about, just 🐐 ig

I did say afterwards that it was based on the public logs available

[sudden brook]

I really am just goat

My gear is so ass too

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter player diff baby

[sudden brook]

If I had jaster eye hoc I'm doing 3m no cap

[runic basin]

which weekly quest?

[keen mantle]

last week's

[spice surge]

I figured it out

Its the mog

[lunar pond]

Is it possible to actually shroud through the last area before the last boss in DFC? Was in a 13 the other night and tank asked for this last minute as we got the area. All of 2 seconds before a creeper pulled someone in the group out.

I was super skeptical but he also over pulled on the way to the 1st boss and in the cart area

[quasi coyote]

u prob gotta take a gamer route through

[spice spire]

Don’t creepers have ts

[spice surge]

Creepers have truesight yes

[lunar pond]

They do yeah

[quasi coyote]

its def possible but like

[spice surge]

Practically every big mob have truesight these days

[lunar pond]

A shit ton of them in there

[spice spire]

Yeah so like it’s an insane route to go around creepers +’pats

[quasi coyote]

everyone has to be right on top of u while u maneuver through

[spice spire]

Idk I usually need % there because I don’t pull entire first area

[sonic willow]

so I should still get to the max max points to consume the darkest night? and in the normal rotation i should always get 5 points regardless how many charged points?

[spice spire]

Usually 2 creepers + shitters hit it

[lunar pond]

Yeah pulled it all lol we had 3 big boys in the first area in one pull

[haughty flicker]

yes

supercharger does not change finisher rules at all

[warm vortex]

All 12s done les go boy

[quasi coyote]

now get all 17's

[haughty flicker]

time all 20s or no balls

[sonic willow]

thanks appreciated

[warm vortex]

Aight bet

[warm vortex]

Flap those wings darlin'!

[haughty flicker]

expecting to see you in mdi

[warm vortex]

Accelerant the BM

Keep that name in midn

Imagine tho if i acc got in
Would be pog

[haughty flicker]

my dream is to get into mdi as one of those teams that nobody expects to do well and then lose 0-3 twice and go home first day

then again its tgp format now so i guess i can be one of those teams that nobody expects to do well then they spend the entire day wiping on an 18

[fallen fable]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm vortex]

My severs so dead i think im top 5 dps X.X

[haughty flicker]

huge

i was like top 10 assa rogue on area-52 for the first two days

before people started playing

so i think im ready for mdi

[spice spire]

Think I hit 14

On a52

I’m still kinda meandering tho cba

[little tulip]

honestly 3k an then just hit grim batol one time

recede its whole hairline pls

[midnight atlas]

yay hope it sims well i missed this trinket

[haughty flicker]

at least it would give me something to do other than pick my nose during opener

step to the left once

[spice surge]

That on-use gives roughly the same amount of stats as hc house of cards btw

[haughty flicker]

[spice surge]

But its -2k agility

So prob kinda shit

[quasi coyote]

https://i.imgur.com/J5q5WvC.png YES BRO POG TRINK

[midnight atlas]

we farming everbloom TW boys

[quasi coyote]

we up so good rn

[spice surge]

I mean its not good

But its not horrible

[quasi coyote]

u know what i miss the most tho

https://i.imgur.com/C2P9JuB.png

this

[little tulip]

i think honeybuzzer is a slightly nicer trinket than geargrinder's spare keys

[quasi coyote]

based trinket bro

[little tulip]

shame they don't do cool stuff like extra stats for hits on enemies

[spice spire]

Tww dragonflight ass trinket

[little tulip]

there goes my smile 😶

[quasi coyote]

bro

dont remind me

of court of stars pls

[midnight atlas]

grieftorch + whetstone meta

[quasi coyote]

whetstone took me like 60 runs if not more

was by far the worst trinket grind ive ever had

[midnight atlas]

and then 50 more for the ring

[quasi coyote]

also nick of time took me like 50 runs

but that dung was fun so it was w/e

[midnight atlas]

i gave up on knick of time, havent seen it whole xpac but got 2 mounts from boss

[quasi coyote]

shii

yea funny thing is the vault after i got one it gave me a myth one

so i waqs just farmed by blizzard

[little tulip]

got a mydas touch and then another one to drop for some random rogue a week later in df s3

but then again not that rare it's just that sureki zelot insignia neck drop chance or whatever

[quasi coyote]

https://i.imgur.com/a0pqcGI.png

still have it

[midnight atlas]

this started my trinket collection lol

[quasi coyote]

bro wtf is that thing

7 agi is large

[midnight atlas]

ooker dooker is op

[quasi coyote]

sounds like a beast

[vapid sierra]

Ooker Dooker

Is my goat

[haughty flicker]

thats a bigass dagger

[wanton nest]

That is terrifying

[quasi coyote]

ooker dooker aint playin around bro

[vapid sierra]

Yall were sleeping on ooker dooker

Yall thought he was some lil corny bitch

Don’t sleep on him

[green oasis]

so stupid question I can get a good ring to drop and have decent enough gear in everything else would it be a decent move to craft one with my 3rd spark until I can get to gallywix on heroic?

[dense cove]

quick question so i don't have to go diving through the guide to find it - CT on 2 targets with hybrid build?

[wind totem]

Don't. We get dinars at the end of the month and you can get it there.

[green oasis]

guessing that starts this month then?

[wind totem]

It's extremely likely

[green oasis]

awesome I appreciate it

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[wind totem]

Ifyou dont have a myth track dagger - just get 2 daggers and an off piece for the nerubian embelishment buff

That's what I did

[green oasis]

yeah I crafted a everforged stabber at myth track and runebranded kickers at myth as well ring is the one thing I am having issues getting

[wind totem]

There are like 4 crti mastery rings in the dungeons

You can get one

2 of them are in ToP, one in Meadery and one somewhere else I dont remember where

Rookery

[idle inlet]

does signet of the priory choose the stat based on the stats you get from gear or does it also include buffs like flask and lust and skyfury

[wind totem]

includes buffs

[idle inlet]

I need to just get a deck of cards this trinket makes me want to alt f4 life

[golden loom]

Well it goes according to the rating so lust wouldnt affect it

[wind totem]

True but the rest does

[idle inlet]

is rating the number or is it the percent?

[golden loom]

The number

[idle inlet]

got it

[tired oyster]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[tired oyster]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[lethal mortar]

just finished up my season with getting all 8 portals woot.

assassination still feels pretty good

might play it the whole expac not likeing sub and their 90 sec CD windows atm

[haughty flicker]

i just realized that command says subtletly instead of subtlety

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[tired oyster]

Outlaw time baby 🙌

[spiral pasture]

do we fok on 2t with raid build like the attendants on oab?

[spice spire]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[lethal mortar]

just not a fan of Outlaw plays style and never have been, Sub is my favorite spec in the game and Ass is number 2

[tired oyster]

Sub is ok, Ass is life

[deep gyro]