#assassination

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red schooner
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5 unless you have darkest night, then 7

subtle tundra
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im not sure i play monk

warm vortex
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We are saved

feral mason
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The cosplay is crazy

stuck knoll
midnight mist
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I'm good at it

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Since I'm an assa main

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It's natural for me

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Also I love my dog

stuck knoll
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Tbh the only reason I thought there was something sus was cuz you’ve the spaces between the words

midnight mist
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Oh

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Does he not

stuck knoll
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Nah

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Still nearly got me

midnight mist
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Alright

rotund oak
nova aspen
stuck knoll
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Well it was when I woke up originally

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And was like something isn’t right

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And then I clicked and saw it was zac

dapper cradle
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If he started talking about turning bussy inside out, he might have passed as quake

vestal wren
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The last message had me double ckeck if Ronkley is Ronkels or someone else inpersonating

manic quartz
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Does anyone know how much CT dmg is reduced past 5 targets?

quiet oar
static glacier
stuck knoll
manic quartz
static glacier
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Square root scaling

manic quartz
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ahh

static glacier
warm vortex
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When the tempest is crimson

quiet oar
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Im honest

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I miss aoe uncap

royal lantern
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Whent the Spatter is Caustic

quiet oar
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and aoe trinkets

mystic osprey
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
mystic osprey
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is it a bad thing if i have 5% haste

vestal wren
static glacier
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Ye I think ct would be

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Differently curved due to the 20% extra per t

warm vortex
golden loom
static glacier
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Probably a v sharp upward from 1-5

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Then a less steep line post 5

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A better question would be say you have a ct out on 5t

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Then you go and ct 5 others with another ct

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Would it be reduced by the cap or would it be counted as a separate spell / instance for cap purposes

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Since it snapshots, does the cap reduction aspect snapshot too

golden loom
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Also it snapshots the target count only for that cast right, as in you cant keep refreshing a 5+ target CT on a boss

static glacier
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Yeah

golden loom
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Would be sick on xalatath orb week

spice surge
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I think crimson is actually softcapped at 8, not 5 btw

golden loom
spice surge
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Since the other things as assa are capped at 5 i would assume its probably the right tooltip just not the right implementation

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But from my testing it seems like CT does the same damage at 5-8 targets, which it shouldnt by its tooltip

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It only starts falling of at 9 or more

golden loom
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fuck it, only CT implementation is correct, raise caustic etc to 8 targets aswell pepe_chad

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also with AP making shiv hit 8 targets it would only make sense

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bleed enjoyers blizzard

royal lantern
golden loom
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based

plucky canopy
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And everyone is happy

golden loom
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also make dance/symbols/blades be on GCD

warm vortex
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Btw UwU

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How’s Assa at top level

royal lantern
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UwU

golden loom
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yeah I am top level gaming for sure

royal lantern
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m+ or raid

subtle tundra
golden loom
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heck yeah I am

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3 tier 11 delves for 21 gilded crets or 2 m+ runs?

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you know where I am first thing every reset

subtle tundra
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offline?

warm vortex
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Tbh with my low ilevel on assa

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Might be seeing some brann tomorrow

golden loom
subtle tundra
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i wanna start paiting aaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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if we kill gally fast tonight, i know what im doing

golden loom
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need to do some m+ today..

subtle tundra
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wait you actually have tier 11 delves

quiet oar
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??

static glacier
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1 m+ slot

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Wut

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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painting!

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want a real hobby instead of wow

stuck knoll
quiet oar
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Varas is free like dobby

stuck knoll
golden loom
warm vortex
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I’m very lonely

quiet oar
golden loom
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well I was kinda out partying whole friday/saturday and been playing some classic again so didnt have time for m+

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also fuck m+!

royal lantern
stuck knoll
royal lantern
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tell them to party up inside a dungeon

golden loom
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was massive week long student event in town last week so I had to go out on friday/saturday even if I got done with school last summer

quiet oar
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TRUE

jade abyss
golden loom
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are gallywix pugs a disaster or no

sturdy mesa
static glacier
golden loom
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did not work last season cause i did one 10+ per week and ended season with a 626 skardyns

warm vortex
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I might try playing 3 chars this season

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BM, Assa, Destro

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And holy pally ofc

stuck knoll
lethal lynx
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how do I set up plater so it highlights my caustic spatter target green? PepoThink

subtle tundra
stuck knoll
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Big garf moment

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My dk has some special juice looted a warbound eye and house of cards

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Although it got to keep the house cuz I already had a HC one

spice spire
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Dog

midnight mist
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woof

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I do love my dog

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his name is george

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very chill dude

spice spire
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Something about Winnie the Pooh idk

quiet oar
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and emotes

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and mention Killing spree

blazing kayak
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My boss dmg is so bad in keeyyyysssss

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aaaaaaa

spice spire
nova aspen
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zac has never capitalized his Z

warm vortex
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zac

indigo sphinx
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Need to get rid of that deathstalker as well

spice spire
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Idc enough

midnight mist
midnight mist
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wrong color

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wrong icon

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lowercase z

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wrong pfp

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you absolute noob amateur

drifting cloud
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get pranked

soft shale
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apriled

spice spire
quiet oar
gusty mirage
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He’s also got negative bitches so

quiet oar
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and Quake was never named MakeItQuake

gusty mirage
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Oh I thought we were still making fun of actual quake

cloud basin
midnight mist
stuck knoll
golden loom
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okay I guess we just 1 shot gally in a pug

cloud basin
quiet oar
gusty mirage
warm vortex
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It took me so long

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You just made me realise

stuck knoll
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Same

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I went haha ninja spec that’d be cool what is this cringe

indigo sphinx
quiet oar
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i dont get it

stuck knoll
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It’s something to do with Ninja the streamer

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I WANT IT NOTED THAT I DONT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS REFERENCING

coral ibex
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imagine if ninja got elote parfait

golden loom
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LOOOOOOOW

stuck knoll
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@indigo sphinx do not heart

warm vortex
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I’m gonna heart

digital venture
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@balmy condor when new video about latest changes to rogue? Kappa

viscid spear
potent lance
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can anyone share m+ bleed build?

warm vortex
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It’s wow head

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Just go talent page and it should be under like

potent lance
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pls share it cant open site

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xDDD

warm vortex
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Alternative builds

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Oh lmao gimme a sec

potent lance
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❤️

viscid spear
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Hoping for a good vault, I need to push my 10s this week

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Don't need a cloak and bracer vault pls SCpray

warm vortex
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Best I can do atm

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On mobile haha

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Sorry

potent lance
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❤️

raven vapor
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!tott

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
coral ibex
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@golden loom got 3rd set on my stix clear, god is good

golden loom
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did u start sending on pull or nah

coral ibex
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hold

midnight mist
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proud of you

coral ibex
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thank you internet father

golden loom
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big bastard will surely die tomorrow

coral ibex
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also i'm pretty sure some people are like

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not picking up as much trash??

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if i check unfiltered damage

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some people's trash balls did significantly more damage

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HMMMMM

golden loom
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in ur kill?

coral ibex
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yea

golden loom
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honestly I kept my ball for a long ass times just incase a bomb or scrapdude wasnt dealt with

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so I was griefing my uptime extra hard

coral ibex
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im pretty sure its always good to pick up more trash bc it makes the next spreads and movement easier

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im usually rolling into the boss with 1-2s left on the timer

golden loom
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same

golden loom
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theres probably no way to not get a single ball right?

coral ibex
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not without killing before final set i think

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and you'd have to not get it before final set

golden loom
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I mean I got 3 in heroic

coral ibex
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it cycles in mythic

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can't get it more than once

golden loom
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ye

coral ibex
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just a pray angle

golden loom
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cant pull my 0% debuff uptime in mythic tho probably

plush iris
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what's the difference in m+ rotation when i play bleed

golden loom
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we hate rolling!

plush iris
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i usually play hybrid

spice spire
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Also you shiv on cd with Ct up

golden loom
stuck knoll
plush iris
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okok

stuck knoll
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I ofc do not know how this could happen

golden loom
stuck knoll
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😇

golden loom
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Does someone else get it then or wat

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do u just miss out on a ball

stuck knoll
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No you just insta roll into boss

golden loom
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oh yeah

stuck knoll
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Don’t do it

golden loom
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thats what my 3 balls with 0% uptime was

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I just ran into boss insta kekdog

gusty mirage
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Healer problem

stuck knoll
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I haven’t actually ever intentionally trolled the mechanic

gusty mirage
stuck knoll
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Something about it fills me with an intense sense of anxiety

hard river
gusty mirage
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That’s why they call it an issue not an iss-me

stuck knoll
golden loom
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not my ball

stuck knoll
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@indigo sphinx you have also never insta balled a boss before right

stuck knoll
golden loom
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also there was no way I was not comitting to the bit when I got the 3rd ball of the fight

zenith elm
golden loom
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attack boss and spatter some adds garf_sit

zenith elm
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Only attack boss?

coral ibex
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we're assa

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you only attack boss

zenith elm
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not even bleed on some other adds ?

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for energy regen?

golden loom
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no

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u attack boss

zenith elm
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Damn

golden loom
coral ibex
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adds gotta live for more than 8s to make it worth bleeding

zenith elm
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i'll only do that from now on

red schooner
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Sometimes I bleed them even though I know it's inefficient, as a treat.

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I like to roleplay as a dot class

spice surge
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You could bleed a target, and then get refunded the energy so you can afford to build your combo points back up, but not much more than that

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But then you might aswell just envenom and do more damage than those 2 builders you get back

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And save the globals

zenith elm
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Noted

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i'll do that !

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only attack boss, simple strategy

golden loom
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also when there are very many adds alive you dont need much energy anyways

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just do some fokin and hope to crit

coral ibex
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one fok is full cp yea

golden loom
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or fok 5 times in a row and alt f4

zenith elm
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Noted

coral ibex
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if i fok twice and dont have 7cp i just start mutilating

zenith elm
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i think i try to dot too much, i guess its only attack boss strat, lol

coral ibex
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fuck that

red schooner
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I'm committed now

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Next FoK is the one

zenith elm
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So if i understand correctly, its always always hit boss for this raid ?

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since i dont see much adds surviving more than 8 sec

red schooner
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Your raid leader may tell you otherwise

golden loom
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we are very bad at target swapping, and also thinking about ads is extra thinking and thinking is bad for dps

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hit boss!"

red schooner
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But just do it anyhow it'll be fine

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The bench just means you have more free time for fun activities

zenith elm
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I was a DH main in DK

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DF

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so not thinking about adds feels weird

red schooner
indigo sphinx
red schooner
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I'm now not used to swapping

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And it ruins other classes for me

zenith elm
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Damn, i feel you brother

golden loom
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I mean the only thing I played before assa, was classic rogue which somehow is worse at target swapping cause your combo points are tied to the target

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so makes sense in my brain to hit boss

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boss spawns totem? not my problem

zenith elm
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Just cleaving into it then, i guess

red schooner
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That bind shall never be replaced

stuck knoll
indigo sphinx
coral ibex
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why would you

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they die almost instantly on heroic

misty holly
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Has anyone been able to decipher what the patch notes mean for us? Will ninja be available for all 3 specs?

coral ibex
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waste of energy and cp

stuck knoll
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I mean tbh in a fight like Stix the biggest log gain you can get is your other dps not doing damage

latent umbra
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Guys i got a question, for like m+ aoe. Is it we do this?

Stealth>ambush>garrote(same target), garrote(same target), rupture(same target), rupture (same target)

Stealth>ambush>garrote> tab target garrot> rupture> tap target rupture?

coral ibex
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!carnage

prisma monolithBOT
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Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

  • The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
  • You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

lost wharf
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Is there a way to macro Rupture, so that I cast it normally if I press the macro, but can mod:shift it so, it's mouseover?

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I mean I can obviously make an extra keybind for it, but I was wondering if it works in a macro

mint valve
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

coral ibex
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if you enable mouseover casting in general you can just use it as mouseover when needed

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i dont use a modifier macro

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i just mouseover nameplates when i need to spread

mint valve
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anyone have a good mouseover macro for rupture?

latent umbra
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!rupture

prisma monolithBOT
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Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.

You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently

lost wharf
latent umbra
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What about ST? we do ambush den garrote twice and rupture once?

coral ibex
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!guide

teal elk
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I just wish Feint didn't cost energy

coral ibex
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read the guide

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it is explained

gusty mirage
wide ferry
gusty mirage
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Where I pulled a pack on the other side of the room and pulled a gatekeeper with it in necrotic wake

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Instantly remove the mouse over after

coral ibex
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understandable, i play with a big yellow circle around my cursor so its really hard to lose

gusty mirage
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Best part is they blamed the mage

coral ibex
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i mean they deserved it

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they're a mage

gusty mirage
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TRUE

coral ibex
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bro should have had the gatekeeper sheeped of course

gusty mirage
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I just muttered uh oh to myself as I watched a bone spike go behind me and to the left

lost wharf
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Precisely why I wanted to have a macro to turn on mouseover on demand, but I guess I just have to make an extra bind

gusty mirage
lost wharf
gusty mirage
lost wharf
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Pretty sure I can find one on wago, if it is a WA

coral ibex
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its a weakaura

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idr which one exactly

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probably just search cursor on wago

stuck knoll
wild horizon
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You can also download the addon cursortrail

split willow
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Looking for tips to greatly improve my caustic spatter damage
!log

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!log

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

coral ibex
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its that simple

lost wharf
stuck knoll
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It is a good idea tho

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I am just too lazy normally

orchid talon
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hey everyone i was checking my simc and noticed this

How come the sim is suggesting to send kingsbane with only 37% energy? how can we mantain 100% uptime like this?

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this is mid fight a you can see from the timer on left side

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also sometimes (cannot replicate always for some reason) the sim gives less prio to shiv and at some points even skip it

gusty mirage
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I probably fucked something up but try this, edit the mod to whatever key you want @lost wharf
. /cast [mod:alt,@mouseover,harm,nodead][mod:alt]Rupture ;[nomod,harm,nodead][]Rupture

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Feel free to toss a #showtooltip at the top too

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Writing macros on mobile isn’t very fun

lost wharf
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Lul I'm an idiot

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I tried to do it with mouseover, but I was still in subterfuge, so now I don't know if it actually mouseovered and aoed my target or I hit my target and aoed my mouseover

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It actually works! Thank you

gusty mirage
spice surge
lost wharf
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Now I do the same for Kick and Garrote, download some weakauras and I'm on my way to 4k rio not get invites into keys.

orchid talon
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oh okay i read the edit now

spice surge
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Delaying and/or trying to pool excessive energy for kingsbane is not showing as a gain

orchid talon
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i see so even if uptimes are lower is still better

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but wouldnt that cause to have low energy until next thistle tea?

coral ibex
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what do you mean by uptimes are lower

orchid talon
spice surge
orchid talon
spice surge
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So you always have it during kingsbane

pallid wind
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Is macro shiv and tea a bad idea?

spice surge
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Nop

orchid talon
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afaik no

lost wharf
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Wasn't there a command for it too?

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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

lost wharf
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Ah yea 😄

high walrus
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is there any way of telling how big CA aoe range is? is it at all related to the circle under the target

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can't tell if it's hitting adds on gally hc

spice surge
orchid talon
spice surge
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The red circle in the pin is not necessarily the same as the one ingame

orchid talon
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you basically need to stand close to the adds there right?

west crown
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your positioning matters yes

high walrus
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the boss seems to have a weirdly small hitbox for how massive he is

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like how close you need to stand to hit

orchid talon
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what if my tank is pulling them away? is it better to CA one of the adds or we try staying as close as possible and cry

coral ibex
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i'd wonder why your tank is pulling adds off the boss

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tbh

high walrus
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I've just been vanish ambushing one of them and rupturing one or two for energy

orchid talon
golden loom
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dropped a lil bomb on a +10 motherload 🔥

spice surge
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Demisemaxxing Prayge

golden loom
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we had 0 deaths before the final hill climb where we died like 6 times kekdog

midnight mist
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You guys are so cute today

wet ruin
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speaking of demise does it proc on a bleed tick or something like that?

spice spire
spice surge
lost wharf
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https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBQRVVRihFDQRQNVUVVFEYFQFKFUBEEVVVUCEA I saw this build that Casualaddict uses for his crazy high end keys and wonder at what point it becomes better than the "normal" Hybrid M+ build? Taking out a lot of stealth value and putting it back into Supercharger and TTK probably boosts single target a lot, which seems to be the main reason he does it.

chrome mirage
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Hybrid or bleed for m+

spice surge
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Were talking like -15% aoe for +4% ST

twin hull
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+hes not looking to top meters..he just there to maximize funnel dmg to lieutenant mobs

spice surge
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Which this does significantly worse at than both bleed and hybrid

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Its literally only pure ST with no adds

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Where its slightly better

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But its massively behind in every other scenario

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Its not good

chrome mirage
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Is there a defacto M+ build or is it just play your own preference between bleed and hybrid

spice surge
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But theyre pretty much the same

chrome mirage
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Fair enough, thank you.

wide ferry
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Been running bleed, absolutely loving it, went back to hybrid for a +12, fucking hated my life lol just feels like shit to me after

spice surge
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Just dont need to worry about KB targets dying or kb not lining up with deathmark etc as bleed

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You just send

quasi coyote
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bleed is lowkey fun af

chrome mirage
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I exclusively hang out in the 10-12 range, so am baby

quasi coyote
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and st damage aside i heckin love blindside

wide ferry
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Stacking DM + Shiv + all bleeds + target below 30% is just nasty

quasi coyote
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for 10's bleed is probably better imo, especially if the other ppl are pumpers

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a lot of sudden demise value

lost wharf
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The boss damage felt attrocious tho when I played bleed the last time.

spice surge
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Its the same as hybrid

wide ferry
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im still rocking skardyns lol

twin hull
spice surge
quasi coyote
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honestrly the st damage feels p much the same to me

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deathmark + 2 shiv goes crazy

wide ferry
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50 trinkets and they all sim worse

spice surge
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Blindside good

quasi coyote
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but outside of dm on bleed its just the same shit as hybrid + blindside whitch is pog

wide ferry
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Doing 6+mil on aoe then 950k on st lmao f it

quasi coyote
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yea i mean

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its fun

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who cares

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assa st recently hasnt been special anyways

twin hull
quasi coyote
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just part of the spec

quasi coyote
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big momma epic boss battle

wide ferry
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orthe big rock bastard in ML

quasi coyote
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but then the bomb boss comes

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and i hate my life

twin hull
quasi coyote
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yea a lot of M+ bosses with funnel adds this season tbh

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even gorechop in top

twin hull
wide ferry
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big mommas damage phase w bleed, we vanish then dm, imp garrote, shiv, blast?

quasi coyote
#

p much yea

#

if ur saving for the amp that is

merry tapir
#

I have hero priory + hero pacemaker, should i take hero mechano core amplifier over a myth tier set?

quasi coyote
#

but on bigmomma ur already doing that anyways lol

chrome mirage
blazing kayak
#

i think this is obvious but figured i ask anyway

#

i picked this last week

#

and this is my vault now

#

do i just go with signet

quasi coyote
#

i mean signet is based

blazing kayak
#

even tho ik ideally ml chest is bis

desert crest
#

Trinket is huge???

quasi coyote
#

but i play both sub and assa

chrome mirage
#

Signet goes hard

quasi coyote
#

so i just use house

frigid kestrel
blazing kayak
#

LOL

quasi coyote
#

if ur just an assa guy take signet prob

blazing kayak
#

twinsies

chrome mirage
#

gah damn at the signets

#

fuck happy 4 yall

frigid kestrel
#

Hmmm

#

Drop my House of Cards for Signet, or Get That Mythic Chest to replace my Champian Chest

#

I thin the obvious choice is Signet

chrome mirage
#

Remember bois, you can buy a house of cards in 11.1.5

#

Play the long game

quasi coyote
#

i mean isnt house and signet p much identical in keys

#

think house might b better in raid

frigid kestrel
#

Funny thing is, Magnet is BIS

lethal arrow
#

🤮

frigid kestrel
#

Mythic Magnet is BIS for sin

lethal arrow
candid geyser
#

Took Myth Gloves last week vomitpepe

peak lake
#

🙂

chrome mirage
#

Why not both

spice spire
#

You have 2

#

🙂

chrome mirage
desert vault
#

Hmmm, already had mythic dagger so did outlaw, now mythic weapon too! but the neck, the tier ... feel like might be chest cause prolly best to craft neck maybe

chrome mirage
#

My vault is going to bless me with myth pacemaker, so HoC and jastor are on my list to santa

spice spire
#

Thing about necks

#

Is there’s only 4, 5 including the boe from raid

#

This tier

stuck knoll
chrome mirage
#

The boe is crit/mast as well

#

juice

spice spire
#

Yeah but my ass is not dropping 1.xm on a temp piece of gear

quasi coyote
#

imagine having 1.xm

stuck knoll
haughty flicker
#

not taking it but kind of funny to get socket and tertiary on the same item in vault

midnight mist
stuck knoll
#

Think about it in $ you not gonna spend 100 bucks on a neck from raid

chrome mirage
coral ibex
#

im cooked

#

taking avoidance wrists

stuck knoll
haughty flicker
#

he's evolving

blazing kayak
spice spire
#

Big jailer parser

quasi coyote
#

oh look its zac the outlaw guy

#

sup bro

stuck knoll
#

It’s about what will give you the best increase now bis isn’t something to hard force or focus over other upgrades as of right now

spice spire
spice spire
#
  • 2m + provides benefits to others
midnight mist
spice spire
#

Ty

stuck knoll
#

Even if Signet was only decent and not comparably a bis trinket

midnight mist
stuck knoll
#

I would still advise it over a “bis” chest when you already have a mythic one

spice spire
midnight mist
#

I could ye, im quite buff

stuck knoll
#

Tbf how many mes could quake bench I wonder

midnight mist
#

you guys want a pic of me naked?

stuck knoll
#

Absolutely

midnight mist
#

alright check dms lil buddy

stuck knoll
static glacier
#

I’m faaaaairly sure that neck is bis candidate

#

Like almost any neck is for sin kekdog

midnight mist
#

Only thing looking spicy here is my ass after what I ate for lunch today

static glacier
#

Also looks bis candidate for OL

spice spire
static glacier
#

Something’s wrong with Zac

midnight mist
#

Woke up early, I'm on my yes life arc nowadays

static glacier
#

He said dog

midnight mist
#

Dog

static glacier
#

😳

kindred breach
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
midnight mist
#

I had spicy meat balls for lunch

static glacier
#

I wonder what the regular users think when they come into this channel

midnight mist
#

I love balls

spice spire
#

I bet you do you sick fuck

midnight mist
#

I am indeed sick, and I would let you fuck me without hesitations

coral ibex
stuck knoll
spice spire
#

Yeah dude is sick in the head

#

Needs to get laid

#

Or whatever

static glacier
spice spire
#

0:00 French time cannot come soon enough

spice spire
desert vault
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
feral mason
#

be happy i didnt swap with zeross

midnight mist
#

what you gonna do at midngiht zac dawg

feral mason
#

woulda been crazy

golden loom
#

had to post this +10 meadery aswell, holy bleed

spice spire
midnight mist
#

Ok you failed the cosplay

#

This is unacceptable

#

It's tacos

#

With an s

#

Otherwise it's not a french tacos

#

It's a taco

plush iris
#

pretty aight first dungeon on bleed

midnight mist
#

Which is litteraly not the same shit at alll

spice spire
plush iris
#

feels so much better in lower keys

tired oyster
#

Bleed nerf inc

golden loom
#

got like 1 or 2 restealths the entire dungeon it felt like

tired oyster
#

Crimson tempest damage reduced 70%

midnight mist
gaunt tree
#

Apex Perforator myth on vault is pretty much an easy choice right?

plush iris
#

outlaw

midnight mist
#

wtf

#

how did you steal my joke

golden loom
#

quake would never touch outlaw!

feral mason
#

ouwlaw TE_FeelsStrongMan

plush iris
#

joke?

spice spire
#

Quake should have said prot warrior

#

Smh

plush iris
#

full realness

coral ibex
#

ouwlaw

feral mason
#

@midnight mist thoughts on ouwlaw players?

plush iris
#

if u don't play outlaw ur a liberal sissy

midnight mist
#

only guy with redeeming qualities

#

is that zac guy

spice spire
#

ty can’t wait to kiss later

haughty flicker
midnight mist
stuck jacinth
#

took myth legs last week I am waiting to cata, crafted neck, hero track bp if i take to catalyze I cant do pants too helpme

static glacier
spice spire
#

Zac is whatever Zac wants to be

pliant jay
midnight mist
golden loom
#

u send shivs but not much else

midnight mist
pliant jay
inland escarp
#

I love the duality of this channel. Full degen convo going on and randomly in the middle it’s like “when should I press my shiv?”

feral mason
#

this is what outlaw is like daily

shy stream
#

how do you guys usually sim vault gear for M+?

feral mason
#

probably more 70% degen / 30% useful though

spice spire
teal elk
#

We better stop showing how much damage CT is doing or Blizz will come knocking

shy stream
spice spire
violet jackal
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
golden loom
#

Oh shit, you hyped for MoP classic assa Zac?

#

must be crazy nostaliga for you right

spice spire
shy axle
#

is bleed really just the same as hybrid with the exception of shiv? some say you do try to do more gar but idk how that should work different to hybrid

spice spire
#

So bleeds end up doing more

#

Also blindside for st feels nice

shy axle
#

yeah thats clear

#

just rotation wise

spice surge
#

Keep CT up on ST

haughty flicker
#

wtf zac is so knowledgeable about sin

spice spire
#

Yeah you do more with bleeds so you’ll do more garrote spread likely ends up being the same from opener fwiw

shy axle
#

thank you

spice spire
feral mason
#

zac hates hidden opportunity

spice spire
#

Yeah I hate it because I have no hoes

pliant remnant
#

heh

#

i get it

#

good one

blazing kayak
#

is there like a minimum or maximum % haste u want as sin rogue in keys?

hollow river
#

nope

blazing kayak
#

wat r most people at

#

for haste

normal mist
#

0%

coral ibex
#

probably whatever haste % their best gear gives them

#

there's no reason to chase any particular amount

blazing kayak
#

does that apply for every stat? cuz i have this vers haste belt with a socket and was thinking about replacing my crit mastery belt but

#

felt wrong to lose crit mastery for vers haste

coral ibex
#

sim it

median sigil
#

depens on your stats now

ember mural
#

Wait is zac doing log reviews

spice spire
#

No that’s quake’s job

#

Hello

normal mist
#

He's the Chad

#

Hello french guy

#

Who doesn't log review

spice spire
#

Bonjour

normal mist
#

J'aime Les croissants

#

Oui

warm vortex
#

Je mange ass

#

Or is it mangé

#

That’s I ate

normal mist
#

Tres Bien

warm vortex
#

And mange is eat

#

I think

#

I was gonna say thanks in French but I realised I couldn’t spell the second word

#

And I’d rather not get killed by Zac

rotund oak
#

traitor ven

warm vortex
#

Bro I’m maining hunter this tier

#

Took you this long

rotund oak
#

ik im trolling

#

wanted to point out the obvious

warm vortex
#

Cause im obv holly pally

#

Yknow

spice spire
#

Traitor

warm vortex
#

Not holy

#

Holly

#

Awe shit

#

Next up you’d find out I’m in destro

#

Acc I think I’ve talked in DH but the most I’ve said is “world of Warcraft” or something

tidal laurel
#

hey peeps. im trying to sim on raid bots with the vault i have but it keeps getting this. is there any way to bypass this? so i can sim properly?

rotund oak
#

destro pumps like a mfker

rotund oak
#

and i like the fact that u rng demons

spice spire
#

That’s an option for top gear

tidal laurel
#

i did. and it still gave me this message and will not sim with it...

spice spire
#

Select your other set of gloves

midnight mist
#

Send link

spice spire
#

Oh

#

You don’t have other gloves selected do you

manic sphinx
tidal laurel
warm vortex
shy axle
#

kezan trinket is no simbait, its real, right?

warm vortex
#

Destro is the other one rn

#

I think

warm vortex
autumn frost
#

A qr code is super dangerous especially on discord, who decided to use a qr code to sell merch XD

warm vortex
#

If your M+ tank makes it so you have little time between pulls it’s good

spice spire
#

What is the date

gilded oasis
#

🗓️

warm vortex
#

Otherwise/with pugs eh

rotund oak
spice spire
manic sphinx
warm vortex
#

So I gotta change my name again

shy axle
#

@warm vortex on what? its the normal 5 min st sim. Was just surprised to see it sim 2k more than mechacore with that low of a fightlenght

spice spire
warm vortex
#

It’s good raid tea

#

*yea

#

Thought you meant M+

spice spire
#

Eye gets a lot better the longer the fight tho

gilded oasis
spice spire
#

Their surprise is warranted

warm vortex
#

O fuck the squad

ancient pendant
#

guys, can you please send me a working kingsbane tracker by notter?

#

i used before, but since 11.1 it's not working :C

spice spire
#

Notter isn’t playing currently

ripe umbra
#

!wa

spice spire
#

So he’s not updated

prisma monolithBOT
haughty flicker
#

and kingsbane doesnt do any damage anyway

spice spire
#

LE has one in their group

digital spindle
#

should we just basically completely abandon Kingsbane forever?

rotund oak
#

they kinda went too far with it

warm vortex
#

Filthy bleed builders…

rotund oak
#

i think

haughty flicker
#

we need an envenom tracker if anything

rotund oak
warm vortex
#

I’m actually mainly doing CoTW atm

#

Plus nobody plays BS for the bleed

rotund oak
warm vortex
#

Yea

#

You play it for the extra KC damage

#

Cause it puts a debuff on the boss

#

But why bleed with Assa when caustic envenom exists

rotund oak
#

thats a good point

tidal laurel
warm vortex
#

Debating if I can be a hyper rat and run a 10 on my 606 lock and be carried by guldies

#

That vault would be juicers

shy axle
#

pepe_chad yes

warm vortex
#

Idk if I’ll even play destro but like we really need a lock

#

Like

#

really

#

Especially for next tier

#

But I bet just like BM the second I go to lock, our slacking ones gonna start playing again

small mirage
#

yo anyone got a m+ build that has a bit more ST?

versed gulch
#

Did an entire raid tier without a Lock for summons once. Do not recommend

versed gulch
warm vortex
#

Its gonna be shit either way

#

Might as well just go full on the air

#

*aoe

subtle tundra
#

theres no assa build that will do st in m+

warm vortex
#

Actually

#

Raid ST would

#

But then you literally have no aoe

#

Kek

#

No crimson tempest, only spatter

versed gulch
#

Definitely. Can't imagine the M+ group where the play when we need more ST is have the Assassination rogue go Pure ST.

#

Probably just swap to Subtlety and burst it all down.

warm vortex
#

Assa is just

#

The massive aoe spec of rogue

#

I guess the other two also are

versed gulch
#

Sub just gives up way less ST in its AOE build. Assassination gives up something wild. 20 percent maybe?

warm vortex
#

But Assa just melts everything in aoe

#

Sim

golden loom
#

It got nerfed sadly

#

so its currently bad

warm vortex
#

Still just sim it

versed gulch
golden loom
#

If you have new tier 4 piece just use it

#

and forget about old tier

spice spire
#

Idk I’m a sin one trick

warm vortex
#

*no trick

twilit flint
#

eh?

torpid sparrow
#

!riq

spice spire
#

!richard

fervent willow
#

does anyone have weakauras to track amount of targets with garrote/rupture? for example, in a pack of 6 target 3 have rupture like: 3/6

spice spire
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
#

Plater is best bet

#

Imo

warm vortex
nova aspen
warm vortex
#

I think it’s only like

#

10% for BM rn

#

Can sim when I’m home

#

It’s annoying tho

#

Usually if a raid fight has cleave

#

I just need to make my 2 min the only effective cleave

#

And my bear

#

The bear is most likely why it’s not that bad anymore

torpid sparrow
#

!command

twilit flint
#

i dont like when the sim tells me what i dont want to hear

golden loom
#

dont sim then

spice spire
torpid sparrow
#

the riq command to make my friends laught :p

golden loom
#

!richard

spice spire
#

!rik

prisma monolithBOT
#

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtletly.
torpid sparrow
#

thx

spice spire
#

Ahh

#

!dick

#

No dick vibes command

#

Damn

subtle tundra
#

dick vibing

spice spire
#

Rik reverb aka Richard reverberation aka Dick Vibes

coral ibex
warm vortex
#

Dick vibrations

#

Holy Richard

dapper cradle
#

didn't dick vibes get caught with a minor?

storm forum
#

once again i gotta choose between champ track BiS item that sims better but im going to use a Dinar on (house of cards) vs a myth track dungeon thing im going to use forever. RabbitDead

dapper cradle
#

waiting on dinars

storm forum
#

i could also get it at heroic

dapper cradle
#

brother we'll get dinars like one week before next season

storm forum
#

surely they come in the .5 patch

dapper cradle
#

Clueless yeah surely for sure 100%

storm forum
golden loom
#

Dinar for gally ring gonna go hard

barren yarrow
#

I’m just lost lol.

azure dirge
#

I def wouldn't take that trinket, it's pretty butt long term

barren yarrow
#

Ok

#

ring neither?

azure dirge
#

What's stats on ring?

barren yarrow
#

It’s got a bunch of haste

azure dirge
#

Ya I'd def just go for the tier

barren yarrow
#

Word

#

thanks sukake

azure dirge
#

Since you'll never replace it and those you eventually would

#

Np bud

barren yarrow
#

yeah I thought the same thing

coral ibex
#

it should be illegal to post phone pictures of monitors in 2025

barren yarrow
#

…. Well I’m on a shit laptop that can’t run discord and wow at the same time.

#

And my house flooded so I’m in the hotel

dapper cradle
#

rip im sorry king

barren yarrow
#

🤷🏽‍♂️ life goes on

versed gulch
coral ibex
#

but discord is just a web app and so is raidbots

barren yarrow
#

Anyways thanks @azure dirge

vast shuttle
#

anyway other then rading to get excessively bejeweled curio? ilvl 638 and i dont have a single peice of my set

bleak sun
#

Just catalyst

#

We have like 3/4 charge now ?

vast shuttle
#

i see but should i wait and use it on hero gear or champ?

full spire
#

Most people won’t be spending gilded on hero pieces anyway so there’s no difference in a maxed out champ and a 4/6 hero

vast shuttle
#

so i should use the catalyst on my champion gear have 2 pecices who is maxed

full spire
#

I would personally.

vast shuttle
#

did it now the 2 set seems to do some nice dmg to it

cerulean nest
#

ez game

errant heath
#

Myth track pacemaker is beaten by myth track legs? fully upgraded? Does that look right? Thinking i'm doing something wrong

dapper cradle
distant helm
#

do we consume clear the witness in st if we are talented in VV?

hidden bay
earnest remnant
hidden bay
earnest remnant
#

i literally just asked whispyr that 2min ago

#

xD

errant heath
hidden bay
#

If you raid mythic and play the later bosses sim for 8-10 minutes

prisma monolithBOT
#

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

  • Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
    Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
  • Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
    Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
  • Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

errant heath
#

Yeah do raid mythic, just on stix right now. let me try a 9min run

hidden bay
#

And question is, would you see any tokens in raid?

#

Cuz pretty sure trinket is way more rare to get

errant heath
#

That's my thought as well

hidden bay
#

Stix drops token and normal pants

hollow sphinx
#

!build

errant heath
#

can always cata myth legs next week or get token in raid

hidden bay
stuck jacinth
#

I can't see how you'd take legs there

errant heath
#

I agree the trinket is rare. I can get the legs on reclear/ cata

cerulean nest
#

yeah my mega magnet is beating pacemaker too rn

coral ibex
#

mega magnet goes hard tbf

balmy condor
#

Pacemaker prolly fucking up your signet

hidden bay
#

That aswell

coral ibex
#

oh question about raidbots and trinket order - why does it think swapping my trinket order is a damage gain

#

wouldn't that mean it wants to use the mega magnet first?

cerulean nest
coral ibex
#

assuming hoc and magnet

balmy condor
#

Well magnet is handled manually

#

So swapping slots won’t matter

coral ibex
#

is it hallucinating

#

or just margin of error

hidden bay
#

What???? Aren’t you supposed to always use trinket in first slot???

balmy condor
#

That’s margin of error

hidden bay
coral ibex
balmy condor
#

Unless the number is green

#

You don’t care

coral ibex
#

it always thinks magnet is better first fwiw

#

in all my top gear combinations

balmy condor
#

Blue number = worthless

hidden bay
#

Gain is a gain disappointment

spice surge
#

Unless its green its not a gain

dapper cradle
#

what if it's red

spice surge
#

Then its not a gain either

tame tangle
#

is tier still bad until high lvl or did buff effect that

balmy condor
#

They nerfed the old set

tame tangle
#

good i deleted it

subtle tundra
austere willow
#

does anybody have the new updated talent sheet for mythic+

balmy condor
#

Wowhead

real siren
#

is there a channel with assa weak auras?

haughty flicker
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
real siren
#

ty!

twin hull
#

is signet better than house of cards for sin? at 665?

red schooner
west crown
keen tundra
#

I know it's sim but out of curiosity for m+ if u had to pick between signet and house of cards, it's house right? It straight up gives more mast then signet would

twin hull
gusty mirage
#

Maybe now Xfinity will love you again

spice surge
balmy condor
gusty mirage
spice surge
spice surge
#

Indeed, that badboy was on repeat during yesterdays raid when we wiped to bandit

gusty mirage
#

You just unlocked core memories from my childhood

#

I’m older than the original @spice surge

spice surge
#

It is what it is

drifting cloud
red schooner
cerulean nest
#

so in raid if youre ever holding a cd for something, and pacemaker gets desynced

#

is it that detrimental

coral ibex
#

its definitely worse than being align

#

getting more crit outside our cds isn't that great, but its not exactly bad

fleet pagoda
#

it's probably okay

#

since all our dmg is from envenom anyways

dawn pollen
#

has anyone else been hearing branns voice when you play keys and stand in shit, or am i going crazy

fleet pagoda
#

it might be me you're hearing, i'm quoting him to an extent that my gf may soon fight me

polar rampart
#

its gtfo april fools day, you can turn it off in gtfo options :p

dawn pollen
#

Oh thank god

sterile crest
#

I noticed a lot of high io sin rogues are swapping master assassin and iron wire for sanguine blades and twist the knife in m+. What is the reasoning behind this? I thought it might be to increase ST but its simming lower for me in ST.

true rapids
plucky canopy
#

Without MA/imp ga is there any reason to vanish inside of dm?

fleet pagoda
#

just to juggle deathstalker mark at that point

spice surge