assassination

[rotund oak]

yup

[soft shale]

not this wang of numbers

[runic hinge]

When is the date

[royal lantern]

did they confirm ANYTHING about that yet

or is that just community speculation again

[soft shale]

not likely but initial findings point to may/june

as that is where you are around the 1x weeks for the gallagio club thingy

that they had shown at the beginning

like week 17-18 of course they did take them out from there

[blissful spire]

anyone else feel a lil dwarfed in dmg when it comes to high keys, i usually overall 3.5M but some of my teamates or even pug players are doing 4M +

im sure i could always play better but just ran a dungeon slice sim and im simming 3.41M

with bleed build

[harsh violet]

Doesn't bleed drop off at high keys cause you're not pumping from sudden demise

[zenith elm]

Blue post, saying they will import it in 11.1.5

i just saw a clip with bleed build, still viable in 13/14

[grim jay]

brotherman, whispyr already said its the move

roughly same ST and better aoe

[runic hinge]

Sudden demise isn’t accounted for in sims and they sim the same so I don’t think it falls off

[subtle tundra]

sim dps != real dps

the sim is used for gear and talent choices, not raw numbers

[blissful spire]

Ah okay good to know

[subtle tundra]

you could be doing more

[balmy condor]

dslice is a synthetic sim type

like there's no way to sim actual m+ dungeons efficiently or accurately

so you can think of dslice as a jumble of pulls thrown together

it's not supposed to be "a dungeon"

it's supposed to be "a bunch of dungeon-situations"

so the number it spits out at the end is kinda fake

[runic hinge]

All numbers are fake

[blissful spire]

Ig that’s a way to look at it

End of day just gotta play better 👍🏾

[subtle tundra]

well its not a way, its how you look at it

cause thats what it is

or rather meow meow meow meow. meow

[blissful spire]

Referring to the all numbers are fake comment

[subtle tundra]

oh. all numbers ARE fake

i play without details

whats a number

[blissful spire]

True still timing some of my keys

[runic hinge]

Theres only 1 or 0. Math is fake don’t let these nerds corrupt you.

[subtle tundra]

theres only true or false

[blissful spire]

One last question before I get some zzz’s

How do I get rid of fatebound outlaw

On my discord

lol

[grim jay]

@balmy condor dear lord whispyr, take it upon yourself to save thee from thy suffering

[blissful spire]

I’ve been sin this whole expac

[grim jay]

to stop seeing the badge of dishonor yourself, you shall purge it

[blissful spire]

Outlaw gave me carpal tunnel from all the spamming

[subtle tundra]

i believe you go on outlaw channel, on the pins, react and then unreact the fatebound one

should be the last pin

[radiant raven]

this is true math is fake

[grim jay]

you need to make it more dramatic

like I did

[subtle tundra]

jerk me off

[grim jay]

I will

[grim jay]

remember when they told you that math is important for your life

[radiant raven]

Yeah

then I did social sciences and I know it's a lie

[subtle tundra]

hamburger

meow

macarena

do the conga

https://tenor.com/view/happy-monday-monday-sunday-hsr-sunday-hsr-gif-11559738718341554839

[blissful spire]

ok fixed

thanks

[royal lantern]

"math is not important" mfs when they have to do basic math at work:

[grim jay]

jokes on you

I'm pretty confident that you could do without

[radiant raven]

the machines do the math for me

[grim jay]

yeah, like I could do everything just fine using a calculator in probably not much more time overall

for some things I need to use it anyways

[radiant raven]

Really though Math si very useful I just hate it, am bad at it, and decided it is my nemesis.

[grim jay]

I always liked math

and german

and english

[radiant raven]

Statistical math is cool

[zenith elm]

I prefer working out and just chilling at work

[radiant raven]

hell yeah

[zenith elm]

math not good for that

[grim jay]

well

you need to know how much weight you are using

so you gotta do basic math

[zenith elm]

No

If it feels good, its good

[grim jay]

couldnt be me, its only good if it hurts

[rotund oak]

and this is where religions kicked in

[zenith elm]

Thats the only way of working out, everything else is bonkers

[rotund oak]

rest is a world in flames

[zenith elm]

If it hurts, then its good

refer to basic rule number 1

[grim jay]

is it good if it hurts or does it hurt if its good

[zenith elm]

Yes

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

that was a philosophical question

[zenith elm]

I like how we workout while being avid wow players

[normal mist]

I'm pretty sure you have enough time between mutilates

Especially with VV now

[zenith elm]

I always do 50 pushup between mutilates

[normal mist]

10 push-ups per mutilate outside of CDs
2 push-ups per mutilate during CDs

LOL

Same fucking mindset

[zenith elm]

We'll be jacked

@balmy condor literally becoming a god of muscles with these rules

[normal mist]

Instead of muscles, he becomes prettier

[zenith elm]

^^^^^ this

[grim jay]

whispyr has a specific muscle thats pretty jacked

[normal mist]

[zenith elm]

Damn, i dont

So i gotta compensate, by working out

[grim jay]

same

atleast it has a visible vein tho

[normal mist]

Would be really bad if it didn't

[radiant raven]

so does a snickers bar

[grim jay]

I corrected it

[normal mist]

Good job 😛

[grim jay]

the question is what tastes better

[zenith elm]

mine doesnt have veins

[radiant raven]

Combine them

[zenith elm]

just a stick of wood

and being flappy too

thats why i like daggers, its short

[normal mist]

Doesn't matter, just keep flexing

[zenith elm]

if only there were even shorter blades

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/the-god-of-highschool-anime-muscle-power-flex-gif-17803646

[grim jay]

just have your daggers in reverse grip

[radiant raven]

they must go through a lot of money buying new clothes

[normal mist]

Part of the job

[zenith elm]

How it feels as assa on AOE

[weary spear]

Until you play with UHDK on big lust pull

[red schooner]

If there's an UHDK I just hold CDs for next pack

Cos I ain't getting to use them this pack before my mob gets fucking deleted

[eternal vortex]

Guys this might be an obvious question but does the priory trinket only good if mastery is my highest stat right? atm i have more crit than mastery which is why im asking, thank you

[soft shale]

even with mastery flask and circe ring?

[grim jay]

its a sim question

and the question isnt what is good

the question is if its your best option

if you cant proc mastery with signet, probably only house of cards is better

[zenith elm]

Idk how you can have higher crit than mastery with circlet

thats like, nearly 6000 in mastery alone

[drifting cloud]

high crit ring and pacemaker can get you pretty close

[subtle tundra]

also circlet has a mechanic where it gives you stats based on the highest stat

so not true giving 6k mastery

[eternal vortex]

well, i have the darkflame cleft neck so thats 4.6k crit, like i can re-gem and re-enchant one of my rings which would get me around 600-630 mastery i guess

[grim jay]

you should just farm different gear potentially

(if it sims higher)

[eternal vortex]

eh, re-gem+-re-enchant seems to fix the issue

[soft shale]

yea usually it is not that far

just remember to check if circe is mastery or crit mostly

it is not dynamic just when you log in and sometimes depending on which zone you change

if stats are close

just unequip then equip

[red schooner]

I've had it swap values based on an unequip and re-equip before

[eternal vortex]

yeah, i took it off and put it back on and it was ok

i have nearly equal crit and mastery so that probably was the reason

also dont have the house of cards which is why i asked my question mainly

[velvet vault]

does super charges combo counts as extra combo for our finisher
(9combo points)or it's always maximum 7 combo points ?

[zenith elm]

Its even 10 combo points

no mb, its only +2

[tall atlas]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[zenith elm]

so yeah, 9

[golden loom]

with forced induction its +3

[zenith elm]

i correct myself, i was right all along

[zenith elm]

so its 10 max

[velvet vault]

oo laaa laa
so that means we always have to use finisher on 6 or 7 combo points with super charge for max benefit ?

[balmy condor]

we ignore supercharger

you finish on 5 like normal

or on 7 with darkest night, like normal

[velvet vault]

oh ok
what about keep our envenom buff up only with 1 stack during fight when we have no KB and DM ?
it can save more energy for us also save the tea for the cd's

[spice surge]

Nop not worth

Just mash the buttons

[balmy condor]

we macro tea

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

if it auto-procs it auto-procs and you don't care

cause it's dps neutral

so it's just a macro and ignore

[velvet vault]

but then i will lose my tea's on cd
also sometimes i almost have 30 or 50 energy during fight

[balmy condor]

correct

[velvet vault]

idk
i just wanna suffer myself with more complicate rotation here 🫠 😂

[warm vortex]

Ok might give some assa keys a go

What's this dry shiv thing

[balmy condor]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[warm vortex]

Whispy

Is this the dry shiv

[red schooner]

That is the dry shiv with darkest night ye

[warm vortex]

Ah aight

So we send a shiv even in aoe with it

gotcha

[red schooner]

I need to send that first bullet point to the tanks I run with

[warm vortex]

Also this is bulk standard right

Usually i would drop db and sbs for TTK and DS but i feel like shit will ide too fast in 10ws

[red schooner]

Consider the bleed build

[warm vortex]

Could do tbh
I remember it was fun last season when SD was doing all of your damage

But idk, spatter go brr

[red schooner]

You also spatter a bit in bleeds but at least you're not worried about mobs dying before you can get spatters out

[warm vortex]

Fair ig, still the exact same rota right

[red schooner]

Ye just no kingsbane

[warm vortex]

Get 5 rups gar, maintain ct, spatter,

Yeye fair

Gonna need to gear up a bit first

[red schooner]

Make sure to shiv as soon as you see any of your teammates popping cooldowns

For sudden demise maxing

Gotta beat the other DPS on the meters somehow

[warm vortex]

Bro assa does that even without demise maxxing tbf

Also why does the wowhead bleed build run cheat death

Stinky eww

[red schooner]

Ye but more demise is fun

[warm vortex]

True

Have to equip a haste vers neck for ilevel XD

Need to gear now

delving gamer rq brb

Also last thing

ct on st w bleed right

[oak tangle]

god i hope not

[balmy condor]

yes

[rigid tartan]

can't believe i've forgot about the dry shiv gain change until now

[rotund oak]

my hunter already 77

im cookin'

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[warm vortex]

POog

MM or BM or SV

[rotund oak]

i think BM is the safe play i can play all 3

hunter looks so easy man

u can multitask

[warm vortex]

BM is mainly about cycling rn

[rotund oak]

such an easy class

yup

bm is cycling 24/7

[warm vortex]

Like i went a bit thinking i should wait until BW was over to cast another BW

But nah

[rotund oak]

no rotation

[warm vortex]

You just constantly cycle through BW as fast as you can now

[rotund oak]

yup

anyone can play BM and pump

it does silly dmg

[warm vortex]

Meh i dunno

I see a lot of people play it as a KC simulator

Which would normally work but now it doesn't

and tbf your saying this as if assa is like rocket science

when it's also sorta just button mashin

[rotund oak]

its both u prio BW 24/7 though

its the ''ADR'' for hunters pretty much

just for dmg though

and crit

leader or dark ranger btw?

[warm vortex]

"It's about cycling bears"

"Leader or dark ranger"

you sure you know what your on about X)

Just pack leader

Dr is like

25% behind aoe
30% behind st

[hearty seal]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[hearty seal]

oh that's the wrong one

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
• Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
• Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.

[barren yarrow]

Hey guys quick question. For rotation outside of CDs or “normal rotation” is that just keeping up mut and spending on envemons until we get CDs back?

[red schooner]

And rupture/garrote

[barren yarrow]

Gotcha 👍🏼 thanks!

[rotund oak]

yes there is a reason behind dark ranger,im very curious to sim the ST diff

[warm vortex]

all of the loot i've gotten from delves so far is tier slots :(

[rotund oak]

its not that simple when it comes downt o absolute numbers

[warm vortex]

That's results from a sim

[rotund oak]

pre-post buffs?

[warm vortex]

Ok i was off on ST

post

i belvie

Was me simming it i think after the buffs but yea

They removed the only thing that made it good

[rotund oak]

cool cool

[soft shale]

maybe try mm dark ranger and just omegahighroll

imagine playing bm

[rotund oak]

yeah im thinking MM as well

DT and blow up eveyrhting

😂

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[stone charm]

Guys I was looking to take up an assa rogue but I'm very confused by the number of builds there are, I've tried to look both wowhead and Casualaddict builds on his top runs, but i'm more confused, is there a video guide from someone that is up to date and factual?

[tight sparrow]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

Haven’t made a video yet but wowhead is very in depth

[grim jay]

what's your rio?

does it back up the facts?

[subtle tundra]

he did a 13

[balmy condor]

It lefts up the right square triangle up down up down start

[grim jay]

dang it's the Era of the great Pushspyr

[balmy condor]

13 two weeks ago mind you

Internet fix when

[grim jay]

is it like dead dead

[stone charm]

oh man this is the spec that everyone wanted, that can flex the talents everywhere. #headspin

[grim jay]

or "fuck whats that ping" dead?

[balmy condor]

The latter

Or the “guess I’m offline for the next 15 minutes” dead

[subtle tundra]

so whispyr what do you think giving up vigor+tea in bleed m+ build

[soft shale]

message could not be loaded

[subtle tundra]

[balmy condor]

wtf

[subtle tundra]

sorry for making you read my messages

i did that once in s1

[balmy condor]

More cursed than casual taking supercharger

[subtle tundra]

ok but in my perfect world it makes more sense

than him

cause its bleed build so we're shivving

in aoe

[balmy condor]

Your delusions are fascinating

[soft shale]

the 1 envenom that changed the world

[subtle tundra]

👎

[soft shale]

the charged one the chosen one

[subtle tundra]

i fuck with my ideals

nvm i simmed, its worse

tea good...

i shrimmed

[grim jay]

we could possibly learn something by studying varas's brain

[balmy condor]

Who up glorpin they shleemus

[subtle tundra]

the oscillations human intelligence

tralalalallalalalaa

I WANNA GO HOME

[nova aspen]

[grim jay]

Excuse me what

not even google can help me with that

it just throws a new word at me

"shmungus"

[nova aspen]

thats one step away from shungus and shungite

[grim jay]

even chatgpt cant help me

[warm vortex]

Isn't that like

Illegal

[grim jay]

whispyr is literally talking about things human intelligence cant solve

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

She never gnorked on your kamip till you tweenzed and it shows

Jealousy is a disease

[grim jay]

whats up with that lingu

I'm too old

[nova aspen]

he is glorping

[subtle tundra]

yeah it is and im sick

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

Mackop bingzoid

[subtle tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1310434269478391809/tuuh.gif

[red schooner]

People glorping, nobody garfing

[nova aspen]

nothing better to do at 8 am on monday

[subtle tundra]

20 minutes until i leave

[rotund oak]

no u just need some to leave u unable to get up after

you know

[subtle tundra]

then i go home. and then i go to prison. then i become free. and then im back to prison. then i go to sleep. and then the prison cycle repeats

life is prison

[warm vortex]

Also

How are we all doing today

[subtle tundra]

AWFUL

[rotund oak]

fine i guess

[subtle tundra]

I COULDNT FALL ASLEEP LAST NIGHT

[nova aspen]

just close your eyes

[rotund oak]

i mean if u f@p'd all night

[nova aspen]

and dream of better days

[warm vortex]

why?

Also how is mythic gally going

[subtle tundra]

we have 3 pulls

[grim jay]

you just made me google glorping and stuff

on my work pc

[balmy condor]

And it’s not dead?

[subtle tundra]

almost dead

i looked up the fight today

so basically done

[balmy condor]

True

[grim jay]

how many pulls did they have in the rwf on gally?

[nova aspen]

liquid had like 60 or 100? blind ofc

[subtle tundra]

like 100, echo 49

[nova aspen]

echo copied liquid and did it in like 35

yea i knew it was like half

[grim jay]

alright so you'll get it on your next raidday

[subtle tundra]

i fully expect us to kill it in 1 raid night( i am coping )( there is no shot) ( i set myself up for dissapointment)

[grim jay]

unless you arent a Gamer

Just Varas

if it doesnt die

in 1 night

[tired yacht]

does anyone know if that wowhead article https://www.wowhead.com/news/aoe-in-patch-9-1-5-the-math-behind-aoe-soft-caps-and-square-root-scaling-324101 is still up to date? or did the math behind soft caps change after 2021?

[rotund oak]

impossible standars to meet

[subtle tundra]

my grand plan was to finish the raid on friday. too bad we didnt kill mugzee with 50 pulls and then gallywix in 30

[rotund oak]

even if u copy u need to test first

[grim jay]

cant wait to meet Just Varas

[subtle tundra]

idk i think im more of a gamer than ever

fyi in my whole wow playtime ive never finished at a worse WR than the tier before

only climbed

😎

[subtle tundra]

yes im bragging

cause youre friends

[grim jay]

I'm not your friend

[subtle tundra]

ok amigo

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/love-family-gif-24307274

[grand trail]

Guys should I play assa on bandit? I saw that one log and i must to say I'm most impressed.

[subtle tundra]

erm its worse than sub for the only thing that matters on prog

[grand trail]

[lavish wing]

did that one log swap to adds?

[grand trail]

Thanks guys for confirmation, we go assa tonight and we blast

[subtle tundra]

youre goated

play assa so its not your job

[grand trail]

Yeah fuck playing cringe pvp trinket when i have mythic signet

[subtle tundra]

whats that emote bro

[royal lantern]

idc, assa time

[subtle tundra]

fair

GO BLAST

[grand trail]

I would have to check how that assa adds dmg look like first

But I bet it's rather ass

[subtle tundra]

yes its assassination

[grand trail]

Because the fixed adds

All dmg is me and monk

Nobody else have cds there is guees

And than you can vanish fixate and blast

[solar thunder]

What can I do when tanks just deny restealths?

[royal lantern]

play the gane

cus it doesnt matter

[rotund oak]

^^

i was trying to write why but that works too

im too old to bother

[golden loom]

already had this but the weekyl quest gave me on with speed

I really have to waste money on new sockets I guess

[solar thunder]

Then how are you gonna spread dots?

[royal lantern]

by pressing tab

[rotund oak]

is gold ever a problem

[grand trail]

But sir I have focus kick on tab

[rotund oak]

thats cursed

[solar thunder]

Then what’s the point of taking indiscriminate carnage

[grand trail]

It's good passive

To have

[royal lantern]

because you get stealth and it speeds things up, and vanish exists

[solar thunder]

Not if tank doesn’t give restealth

[nimble vector]

!restealth

Fuck what is the command

[royal lantern]

"i can NEVER stealth >:c" is just not a thing, stop acting like it is

[nimble vector]

!stealth

[rotund oak]

its impossible to utilize it to the fullest,it just wont happen.Restealths dont matter that much if u cant restealth u fok=>rup until u get the scent stacks and continue to pump according to rotation

[nimble vector]

I give up

[steady swan]

i have a little question, so this talent Twist the Knife, will make me have 60% poison weapon chance + 21% if i play doble lethal weapon poisons... like 81% prob weapon poison? and give me double rapid injection buff, like 20% envenom damge?

[hollow phoenix]

you have two vanish charges

[warm vortex]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[nimble vector]

Thanks

[warm vortex]

I just want gear on this alt man

[hollow phoenix]

nice eye tho

[warm vortex]

Im so squishy but iu think i could do 7s with ease
I mean feint + elusiveness is like

nut

Thanks

Thought i'd start gearing an alt as my main is

Like

max they can be rn

Nothing sims more than like 0.0% or 0.1% sometimes from m+

Also

Had this happen for the first time

How tf were we supposed to grab beer lmfao

[steady swan]

any can help with that? i only need if it aplies

[royal lantern]

by not tanking the boss in the middle

[warm vortex]

I know

I moreso meant if that tank does that

Haha

Tryan im not THAT stupid

i think

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats how it works, all envenom benefits stack cus you badically have envenom 2x active

idk about the poison chance tbh

bad at math

[warm vortex]

Come on Tyran your supposed to be smart!

[royal lantern]

what

[warm vortex]

You heard me

Anyway time to not have fun

[steady swan]

ty soo much

[rotund oak]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[agile nest]

Is our single target really that bad or I may be doing something wrong? Im always like 20-25% behind every dps in pure ST fights

[warm vortex]

In m+

?

or raid

[iron vapor]

In raid you shouldn't be that far behind. In M+ you absolutely could be.

Few % here and there in raid depending on the fight - some bosses favour different classes. We do great on Stix for example.

[tropic hull]

In purely ST in m+, it really feels bad ye

[royal lantern]

in m+ yes, assa is doing kinda bad boss dmg there

kinda the tradeoff for its big aoe

[spice spire]

[pliant remnant]

[royal lantern]

[warm vortex]

[red schooner]

[agile nest]

Yeah m+

[steady swan]

how much targets mutilate and how much targets knive storm?

[hollow river]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[slate crown]

[hollow river]

[red schooner]

Oh neat there's a ! command for it now

[spice spire]

Yeah fok is a reader too

[hollow river]

Heyo, someone asked me “would it be possible to make a weakaura that would show exactly how much health someone would need to drop to in order to die to sudden demise?”

Any thoughts on whether that’s even possible?

[spice spire]

Back to the WA dungeons

[slate crown]

The internet was a mistake

[hollow river]

[slate crown]

Addons were a mistake

Bring me back to shadowpanther spreadsheets

[hardy dagger]

Assa whenever there is 5+

[spice spire]

Lack of compliance will key you the most inhumane punishment possible

Healing quakewar in a cinderbrew

[golden loom]

alright when will we be able to transmog daggers to dreadblades, I wanna walk around with my thunderfury

[slate crown]

Also no way to know how much in bleeds are wracked up way too dynamic

Also why

[hollow river]

Yeah

[slate crown]

why would you need to know this

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[devout mist]

U dont

[hollow river]

It’s been bugged as fuck

In pvp

[spice spire]

Pvp is a mistake

[hollow river]

Just doesn’t proc like 90% of the time when it should

[devout mist]

When i kill some1 in pvp he doest drop loot. Therefore pvp is useless

[royal lantern]

doesnt it have a CD in pvp

[hollow river]

I can buy all my loot

[hollow river]

Nah I don’t think so, its values are just nerfed to 10% hp and 250% more bleed damage than their remaining health

[mystic osprey]

sin rogue is big

[hollow river]

But we’ve seen many instances of people with like 10-50k hp, multiple bleeds going and no procs

[royal lantern]

aka "cant really happen"

[hollow river]

It can

[royal lantern]

how much % is 50k hp? 2%?

[split veldt]

Does gear compare still work? can i trust this?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c69rTtPV8MNEcUxdRzkx5x

[royal lantern]

should work, but like, just use topgear

[spice surge]

Yes but its redundant as top gear does the same thing but better and faster

[split veldt]

oh, guess ive never tried to sim different embellis on top gear

whoops

oh lmao, you just hit the + button

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-a-smart-man-but-i-know-what-love-is-forrest-gump-gif-11576648

[radiant raven]

blasting, hell yeah

[warm vortex]

Damage so far on a 7 FG

642 ilevel

This class is silly

[split veldt]

well, top gear says it's better than gear compare did, so i guess i swap

[warm lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tiny vessel]

Is caustic spatter bugged? Is that why it can go thru the walls on Mug’zee when other abilities can’t?

[royal lantern]

idk if its a bug?

its a cleave from the boss with 12y range

and its not the only ability that goes trought

[spice surge]

One of the only ones

[royal lantern]

iirc some healer stuff goes trought aswell

except for hpaladin

[tiny vessel]

Yeah I was comparing logs and noticed it.

[warm vortex]

Get a bit of an ego boost which is nice

We had a lot of deaths tho

So i didn't get to do to much lmao

[red schooner]

Did you bleed build it?.

[royal lantern]

low lvl keys and people not understanding SD

[warm vortex]

Yuppers

[royal lantern]

name a more iconic duo

[warm vortex]

Wasn't too much SD
Still a handful tho

[solid pilot]

I hate drivers that came to Poland recently...

[iron vapor]

Fuck me, must've been some BIIIIG pulls for CT to go that high over CS

[warm vortex]

No

just regular bleed build

keep in mind it was a 7

[iron vapor]

Ohhhh, I run hybrid exclusively, almost never get CT at the top

[warm vortex]

Fair, no reason to run hybrid at both this low ilevel and key you feel me

[iron vapor]

For sure. I'm smooth brain tho so just ran hybrid the whole time.

[warm vortex]

I prefer hybrid

Also

So nice not having to worry about if smth can kill me or not

cause unlike bm

i have an easy, no concequences CD def

[iron vapor]

Bleed in boss fights is SNOOOZE

[red schooner]

Hit feint, life good

[vast shuttle]

what should i craft with my spark of fortunes i have 3

[zenith elm]

Yeah it doesnt feel good bleed on boss fights

[warm vortex]

Sium

But embelishemnts

[red schooner]

Dunno, what gear do you need?

If you don't have a good weapon, 675 dagger is a good shout

[iron vapor]

Dagger and boots or bracers is always a good shout

[fresh pelican]

dagger, boots then sim

[iron vapor]

Unless you're already rocking a 678 perforator

[vast shuttle]

what is sim?

[iron vapor]

In which case, put th crafted dagger in your offhand

[warm vortex]

Oh you poor innocent soul

[vast shuttle]

XD

wtf is it lol

[warm vortex]

Its hard to explain

But tldr

It's something that looks at your gear, and decides what items are upgrades

And by how much

[vast shuttle]

ehhh

idk what u mean xd

oh i understand now

[red schooner]

A simulation is a simulated version of your character, so you can use that to test our gear upgrades/talent changes etc.

[zenith prairie]

Is boots beat craft just cause the other options suck

[warm vortex]

sim

[red schooner]

Nah just boots don't give that many stats and the wowhead guide needed a bis list

[vast shuttle]

how do i do it?

[red schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot

[fresh pelican]

real answer is dagger then sim, some boots are okay depending on your other stats

[zenith prairie]

What?

[red schooner]

The website above, but there's probably guides out there. I'm on mobile so a little bit limited

[zenith prairie]

Yeah I digured it was just a bis list thing I’ll craft bracers

[warm vortex]

Bis lists suck

Don't use em

also omg @fresh pelican that pfp brought back smth i haven't thought of in years lol

"locked and loaded!"

[steady swan]

its worth to use crimsom tempest on single boss in M+ ?

[warm vortex]

If you are running the bleed build yet

[steady swan]

with that

[warm vortex]

That aint bleed so nah

But if any mobs spawn during boss use CT

Btw quick explanation

[steady swan]

like first boss on teatre of pain

[warm vortex]

Ye

[steady swan]

oki ty soo much ^^, im very new with rogue so i have many questions XDD

[warm vortex]

No problemn

This is why tho

[steady swan]

mmm like 60% on that triple boss

[zenith prairie]

Are we sending vanish when we get a non stealth opener

I hate running 2 vanish

[zenith elm]

Only if its a really big pack

[zenith prairie]

So just send with cds and second one is for a messed up pull if big enough

Thanks

[nova kelp]

why do you hate running double vanish?

[coral ibex]

muh damage talents

[midnight atlas]

2x vanish spec sims higher at least for me

[nova kelp]

I don't understand, we spend years going "MUH RESTEALTH" and now when it's bis to run double vanish peeps keep coming in like "lol 2 vanish so nub"

[midnight atlas]

its always the angry ppl who are the loudest

[spice spire]

So like

It will always sim higher than in practice

Because that’s the nature of an additional 2m cd in a 6m window

I’m a wat enjoyer tho

[coral ibex]

Gm quake

[spice spire]

GA

[warm vortex]

People before subter change
"Yea i run double vanish! I know it's a dps loss but i need the iron wire silecne"

People after:

"I don't wanna iron wire it's a dps loss"

Also dam the 2pc is really shit huh

Simmed

[subtle tundra]

no man dont explain it

[nova kelp]

it's no wonder whispyr goes nuts sometimes lol

[warm vortex]

Btw deja im back on playing this fucking stupid spec lmao

It's so dumb how much damage it does in aoe XD

[analog field]

hello guys, we have 3 rogues on mug heroic (i am assa and the other 2 sub) and i see that they are put into jails and they do very poor dmg. What classes do you think are the best for this kind of thing , as i think we have dps problem on this boss (apart from some mechanics going wrong). I think the 2 subs should be outside right ?

[nova kelp]

spend several years mathing out "here's why restealth not so big deal"
peeps constantly refuse to accept it
finally the overall comfort and use case scenario of 2 vanish just straight makes sense
and people have finally decided that the old math maths

[soft shale]

rogue usually does not go into gaols

also in hc you just change to metal after 1 set of adds

[coral ibex]

shouldn't matter for sub, they dont care about target swapping

[warm vortex]

I remember a fire mage didn't want to go in the cages

Idk how big it is for fire

Ik you can do the stupid nutty thing of like

[soft shale]

lul fire mage is cooked as f

[warm vortex]

Snapping in and out of all 3

But idk

[soft shale]

i mean you actually need to know how to do the alter blink displace thing

not everyone knows how to

[warm vortex]

Yea

And even if you explain it

[soft shale]

also you need the cages put at both sides of the boss

[warm vortex]

It's still probably not the easiest XD

[soft shale]

lots of people put them whenever

[coral ibex]

why would you put the cages away from the boss

[warm vortex]

Yeye just put markers down

[soft shale]

if they are more than 10y away ignite wont go up again

[analog field]

we are doing that pretty well i think

[warm vortex]

Also

Got a lot of gearing on this to go

[soft shale]

well sub should be fine for gaols

[warm vortex]

Got eye of kezan at least

Sub seems p good for it tbh

[soft shale]

yea you can always get a dance in

[analog field]

we probably do shit dmg overall but i am thinking that maybe we are doing this wrong too.

[warm vortex]

Your still in opener on the first one so can't you just melt the add with your 2nd/3rd dance

Yea

[soft shale]

but not much more than that

[analog field]

we don't start from there, we start on the other side

[nova kelp]

pity about the ST, but hey, it is what it is

[coral ibex]

there's really no excuse for sub rogues to complain tbh

[soft shale]

yea metal start is better

[coral ibex]

like idk maybe you guys are really low ilvl

[soft shale]

because you can clean ice shoes

[warm vortex]

Do you havelogs

[coral ibex]

but heroic mug shouldn't be an issue

[soft shale]

well that too we know nothing

[warm vortex]

Got this earlier

[analog field]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ab3Nct9mvj2rzd4w?fight=last&type=damage-done
this is the last wipe

[warm vortex]

On a 7fg

[soft shale]

as far as we know we did it at 640 ilvl

and got to enrage almost

[analog field]

we are having an issue on OAB also

[warm vortex]

Oh good

yea

[analog field]

i think it was hgarder than mugzee will be

[warm vortex]

your dps is low

[high walrus]

any m+ players unbind tea from their shiv? single target on bosses in m+ feels genuinely miserable when walking up to a boss with 0 tea charges

[soft shale]

damn im sorry to say but yea

[coral ibex]

yea i mean this is just a tough look

[warm vortex]

Everyones is

[soft shale]

those sub rogues are a bit weak

[warm vortex]

Lemmie get our one

I don't think our was good

ALSO

IM STILL SALTY

THIS IS THE ONE FUCKING PULL WHERE I WASN'T TOP DPS

[analog field]

yeah i am just tryoing to understand if we are splitting groups the wrong way etc

[soft shale]

although they did die

[warm vortex]

AND OFC IT'S THE KILL

Acc

Yea our dps was super low too

[analog field]

or if we just play badly, surely not a hard core guild but most people are pretty ok

[warm vortex]

looking at it

I was hunt for ref

[nova kelp]

it's always the way

you never get to pump on the kill

[warm vortex]

Tbh i 100% understand

[coral ibex]

like there's a demon hunter doing less dam than the blood dk

[warm vortex]

I'm in the same sorta guild

Like

where 2-4 dps are the ones doing all the grinding and heavy liftyingh

Explains yesterday

[analog field]

where is this pic from ? do i have acces to my wipes like this ?

[warm vortex]

No this is just our gally wipes

[coral ibex]

yes it is in your wipe log

[warm vortex]

If you go to the log itself you have dropdowns of each boss

[analog field]

aaaah right didnt see it ty

[coral ibex]

im looking at all the wipes and there are some people who are just fundamentally playing their class incorrectly

[warm vortex]

"Get a facefull of what the boys have been working on!"

nuts

[analog field]

also we were getting boss to 40 % right before the 2nd jail so we were stopping doing dmg for like 10 sec so jails dont go with the first charge, this is a dps issue again ?

that we get him to 40 at that point so it's shit

[coral ibex]

these folks need rotational help for sure

[warm vortex]

Like how

do you play BM like that

Even if you don't know you are m3eant to cycle

[haughty flicker]

if kill command is off cd press kill command

if barbed shot is off cd press barbed shot

[coral ibex]

it is going to be difficult to prog when half your raid is literally bottom 10% performers

[haughty flicker]

if neither is off cd press cobra shot

profit

[coral ibex]

it would be infinitely easier if they were like

30-40% parsers

[warm vortex]

Uhm actually

[haughty flicker]

this is to play at a baseline level dont uhm actually me

[warm vortex]

Oh yea nvm

[haughty flicker]

doing those things gets you at least 70 parse lmao

[warm vortex]

Your right then

[analog field]

yeah i am not shaming as i dont think i am good either. Trying to think how to progress

[haughty flicker]

[coral ibex]

frankly if everyone in the raid performed at your level the boss would be dead

you may just need more poeple in the gaols

[warm vortex]

I relate to that on a personal level

I remember someone in the hunter discord saying smth like

[coral ibex]

like if the goons arent dying just put more people in gaols

[warm vortex]

"Your guildies are trash, why don't you just fully pug heroic or tell them to play better"

XD

[nova kelp]

I mean, I know it's not ENTIRELY wrong but I never really liked the whole "do basic get 70%" coz like by the nature of a percentile it's impossible that's an absolute truth

[coral ibex]

boss dam outside the execute doesn't matter anyway

[copper mural]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[copper mural]

!whisper

[nova kelp]

if everyone did the same variance would still put someone at 1%

[haughty flicker]

well but the point is that people dont do that

[warm vortex]

Tbh with how popular BM is

[copper mural]

what was the whispyrs youtube channel

[warm vortex]

And how stupid people are

[haughty flicker]

if everyone did then sure you'd be right, but also that 1 would be as good as a 70 now

[warm vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdpGDTwuSqRBdXYnMBF1ayg

[haughty flicker]

so standards change

[coral ibex]

if you literally just youtube search "whispyr wow"

you'll find it

[copper mural]

thanx

[coral ibex]

you could have typed less than you did in here

[warm vortex]

Hey hey shhhh he is an outlaw

Don't expect much

[severe sparrow]

ngl half my social side guild parses like this. in addition to rotational stuff they probably have never heard of a sim, are missing enchants and gems, etc

"wow these legs are bis" (dropped from a heroic boss)

[nova kelp]

but yeah, obviously the GENERAL rule of thumb worksish, it's just that people come out of conversations thinking that it's a hard n fast rule
then they wonder why they don't compete with say their feral druid or w/e where the spec is filled with almost exclusively one tricks

[warm vortex]

"Oh i cba to sim i use the BIS list"

[coral ibex]

yea there are a lot of players that fundamentally Just Don't Care That Much

[warm vortex]

Literally yea Lynari

[red schooner]

same for my guilds social raid, it be how it be, social prog is slow.

[haughty flicker]

thats all fine in a social guild tbf though

if the expectation is just to chill

[warm vortex]

Yea

and tybh

[haughty flicker]

but people do that in guilds where the expection is to prog

[red schooner]

our social raid is just one day a week so, eh, nothing much was expected.

[coral ibex]

wiping to heroic mugzee for 2 hours isn't really chill tho

[warm vortex]

I'd rarther have a long heroic prog and a tiny bit of mythic

As opposed to being stuck on a mythic boss for 10+ hours and the guild being deleted

[haughty flicker]

it can be depending on the raid environment

if im hanging out with the boys i'll wipe for 3 hours straight and still have fun

[warm vortex]

Yea exactly bel

[nova kelp]

ah man, I love heroic prog groups though
some of my best ever raid memories have been with heroic prog crews

[haughty flicker]

but if the expectation is to prog and we're wiping for 3 hours because people wont do basic things

[warm vortex]

But i feel it's bad if its like 0 prog

[haughty flicker]

[coral ibex]

if my boys trapped me in 3 hours of heroic prog i'm gonna crash out and fight them irl

[warm vortex]

Yea, they do learn eventually

[dapper cradle]

damn I thought you guys were talking about mythic mugzee

wiping on heroic????

[warm vortex]

No lmao

[nova kelp]

also you know. it's always good to be a gigantic fish in a fish bowl

[warm vortex]

Yea

[coral ibex]

i disagree actually

[warm vortex]

Tbh i feel like me mythic raiding would be smth i would think i want, but i wouldn't

[red schooner]

details ego though

[warm vortex]

TRUE

[coral ibex]

i only stayed in my current guild bc there's a rogue who's better than me

[warm vortex]

seeing that you are constantly #1

[coral ibex]

so i have someone to compete with

[warm vortex]

Ofc there is Newj

that wont ever change

JkJk

[nova kelp]

I'm the only rogue in my guild now

[haughty flicker]

details ego only goes so far when you're sitting there for 50 wipes waiting for everone else to finally learn the fight

[nova kelp]

it makes me sad

[red schooner]

when you get #1 on sprocket as sin, feels good.

[coral ibex]

taking the raid to gapplebees and still wiping makes me wanna sewerslide tbh

[nova kelp]

I have to stare at logs in "compare" to get my competition edge

[warm vortex]

True bel, but consider that you also have other people on your tail

Hey a 99 is a 99

:3

[haughty flicker]

maybe if i was actually good enough to have an ego

but if im better than people then something is wrong in the guild

[warm vortex]

Tbh i onl;y have 1 99

and it's the boss that's the easiest to get a 99 on

so it's shit

but hey it's my least fav boss

[nova kelp]

when you get number 1 sin on sprocket you get scrutinised by whispyr lol

"suddenly he can play, suspicious much!?"

[red schooner]

Nah it was a 97 log overall, but #1 in my raid AND I'LL TAKE IT BAYBEE

[warm vortex]

Certified junk gamer

Also

Stix clips are coming up on VDH clips in terms of how funny and common they are

[coral ibex]

i CANNOT parse mugzee man

[haughty flicker]

stix clips are pretty great

[coral ibex]

boss positioning moment

[red schooner]

Idk I view myself as a solid but not exceptional player, so, I'm happy when I get my time at the top.

[nova kelp]

dude, I have a straight up mind block on stix in heroic...
I legit constantly press my fucking cds as he phases, and i just wana un*install

[warm vortex]

Bro it's so bullshit that you have two 99s and our avarae is so close

I know how like

That's literally how avrages work

But still XD

[warm vortex]

Funninly enough

The BM build there has no cooldowns as it's just the M+ build

[coral ibex]

DOO DOOO DOO DOOOO MAX VERSTAPPEN

[warm vortex]

DOO DOO DOO DOO

MAX VERSTAPPEN

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

absolute cinema

[warm vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/782985651150651412/1346984406908141609/ezgif-5e6f7bb7ccd5c1.gif?ex=67eb21fc&is=67e9d07c&hm=a0b0aa195699b6dd8bc64fd653ac3b400f51e7e3f9e8a429b7a148a02e581e78&#

[coral ibex]

famed slayer of ansurek

[golden loom]

I mean we spent 3 hours wiping on stix yesterday, I would rather wipe to heroic mugzee for 3 hours

[warm vortex]

https://imgur.com/a/gjN9d9U

[nova kelp]

this shit makes me so sad for peopl elol
it's like the whole
if you build 100 bridges, and suck 1 dick. Noone remembers you as "the bridgebuilder" you're the "dick sucker"

[warm vortex]

If you suck 100 dicks and build 1 bridge you are a whore

[analog field]

the issue is we were wiping for 2 hours on bandit on wednesday then 2hours mugzee yesterday

[coral ibex]

you only built those bridges to get to the dick you wanted to suck

[analog field]

ilvl will carry us eventually

[coral ibex]

that's dick dedication

"i'd build 100 bridges just to suck that dick"

i miss her

[warm vortex]

What if you suck dick to build bridges

[nova kelp]

listen, I don't mean to make you guys horny or anything
but I've built many a bridge in minecraft

[warm vortex]

Bro

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-rock-gif-23559354

[golden loom]

Yeah was a bit of a hyperbole sorry, I just hate stix

[warm vortex]

you have foot lady pfp

TF you mean

[coral ibex]

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-licks-slime-gif-7826310196799265789

[coral stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049809985602867250/1234538348580966512/first_RLP.gif

[warm vortex]

Omg it's the anime guy from pintrest

[coral stump]

oh my god

[coral ibex]

https://i.redd.it/otk4cwzoqh3e1.gif

[coral stump]

fuck prot paladins

[nova kelp]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[nova kelp]

awe man that's rough

[warm vortex]

Fixed

[coral stump]

true i hate all those holy power skanks

[warm vortex]

OMG SAME

[nova kelp]

the only thing that could have made that clip better is if gnomes could be pallies, and he did a flip on death

[warm vortex]

Fuck ret
Fuck prot

and

F U C K

Holy pally

[coral ibex]

i get to prog stix for another 3h tonight!!!

[coral stump]

hpals don’t even exist to hate on them

[golden loom]

HECK YEAH

[nova kelp]

nah look, I'll give ret something, it has sick asf visuals

[coral ibex]

WE LOVE STIX

[cedar flicker]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[nova kelp]

dogshit mog for tier, they always look like rejects from an 80's space academy

but sick visuals for skills

blade of justice or whatever has some mad anime power

[golden loom]

atleast I was top dam over 34 pulls yesterday, wooooo!

[coral ibex]

clappers dude

[golden loom]

WE LOVE SPATTER

[nova kelp]

I fucking hate stix

[coral ibex]

i was too on wednesday

[nova kelp]

what a stupid fucking boss

[golden loom]

AMEN

[nova kelp]

imagine if you could CHOOSE who gets the balls and where from

suddenly, good fight

[coral ibex]

i lied i lost to a fury

[coral ibex]

boss dies in 15 pulls, it would be a joke

[golden loom]

imagine if there wasnt 10 gazillion fires and trash and melee fire circles and shit and awful shit and AHHHH

[nova kelp]

just retune it

solved

but as is it' sjust a dogshit boss

[coral ibex]

we also have uhhhh

[nova kelp]

with dogshit mechanics

[coral ibex]

8 melee

xd

[nova kelp]

yeah same

[coral ibex]

i just stack on the tank for fire circles

[nova kelp]

it's a rough night with a stacked melee group on it

[coral ibex]

its a miracle any trash is left

[warm vortex]

Fuck stix

and his probably unwashed asshole

[nova kelp]

epsecially when youre taking the burned quarter ball from DEEP back

and peeps just eat all the trash with fire

and the trash that ISN'T on fire gets eaten by everyone getting to their quadrants

[coral ibex]

i regularly got assigned the quadrant the boss is currently in and full of fire

so no trash for me

[nova kelp]

then peeps are like "why scrap shoot?!?!!"

[golden loom]

mistweaver and holy pal are counted as melee right? cause we are 10

[nova kelp]

"BRO!

[coral ibex]

believe so

[golden loom]

i am standing in lava!!!

[nova kelp]

36 pulls deep on the boss and someone gets the ball for the FIRST time

BRO

WHAT A SHIT BOSS

[coral ibex]

we have

warrior
rogue
rogue
ret
ret
ret
dk
enh
enh
tank
tank
mw
(rsham)

[nova kelp]

oh my word

where's your ww?

[coral ibex]

he's a mistweaver

xd

[nova kelp]

you know ww is quite stronk right now

[coral ibex]

our comp is omega balls

[nova kelp]

quite quite stronk

[coral ibex]

there's no defending it

[golden loom]

tank tank
rogue rogue
warrior
ww
udh
mistwear holypal
enhance

[dapper halo]

if i wouldve known that rouge is so complicated later on i wouldve started with something else in 2005

[warm vortex]

Where boomie

[coral ibex]

what's a boomie

[golden loom]

atleast we have 1 boomie

[coral ibex]

doesnt he play for liquid

[nova kelp]

dam

[warm vortex]

Boomie these nuts

[warm vortex]

Get fucked

[golden loom]

we have a crazy strat of the boomkin

he taunts to get first ball

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[haughty flicker]

they press starfall and you win

[haughty flicker]

ye thats the play if you only have one

first ball set dies without them anyway

[golden loom]

so that he doesnt get ball later on DUMB BOSS

[coral ibex]

our locks are on bombshell duty

they don't like it!

[nova kelp]

I wouldn't mind not having 2 ww in my crew on stix

spatter would go even more brrrr

[haughty flicker]

meanwhile we have a grand total of 0 boomkins

[coral ibex]

yea no WW just infinite ret paladins

[haughty flicker]

0 not 9 lmao

2 warlocks who i guess will have to just do everything

[coral ibex]

imagine our rik prog

[haughty flicker]

so im sure it'll go well

[coral ibex]

bad barrel spawns is literally gg go next

[golden loom]

one of our best players is a ret paladin aswell but his pc was broken yesterday

[nova kelp]

also yeah

[warm vortex]

Rate gally comp

[nova kelp]

fuck rik