assassination

[high walrus]

and didn't happen before 11.1

[solid pilot]

is it evga ?

[high walrus]

there's a ton of threads on forums

but no blizzard response

[solid pilot]

actually

its not their fault entirely

microsoft

xD

[high walrus]

I think people concluded that it's a windows update

yeah

[solid pilot]

they released not so long ago

a ray tracing direct x version

[high walrus]

h24 or h22 or whatever it 's called windows update fucked it

but I haven't noticed anything in other games

it's just wow that completely freezes for 10 seconds

[solid pilot]

im on win 10 still

afraid to upgrade to 11

[high walrus]

and then when it unfreezes it's like I'm holding alt until I pres it

very cringe

[storm zinc]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[solid pilot]

check for overheating mby

[high walrus]

it's not even 60c

it just happens out of nowhere

[solid pilot]

is it intel

or amd ?

[high walrus]

was gonna post my specs but idk how to get a full list without 3rd party on win11

[hollow river]

have heard of quite a few people with this issue

[high walrus]

amd

[solid pilot]

which one

[high walrus]

ancient technology

[solid pilot]

good cpu\

add some ram

[solid pilot]

nah

i got 5700x3d

same socket

tho i wouldnt uipgrade to that

[high walrus]

is it really just getting cucked by ram

[solid pilot]

if anything go for am5 with 7800x3d

i got 32

[high walrus]

I have a 1080 still

I have not had more than 100 fps in wow for like

10 years

[solid pilot]

my graphic

have 20% workload

while in raid

but hmm

the extra screen might cause some problems

[brittle shuttle]

y'all runnin cheat death or elusiveness in big keys like 15+? highest io rogues rn seem to run 1 or the other

[solid pilot]

its kinda old graphics

[high walrus]

idk enough about computers

you mean just having a 2nd screen plugged in?

[coral ibex]

yea

[high walrus]

does high ram workload cause god awful fps

[coral ibex]

having more than 1 screen reduces performance

[high walrus]

like drastically?

[coral ibex]

depends whats on the 2nd screen and how much power ur gpu has to give

[high walrus]

it's never anything else than my firefox

and if I lag at alll I just turn it off

and it gives me 0 noticeable fps

my GPU is also at like 30% usage at most when I'm at 10 fps in raid

CPU like 40-50

just memory is always at 95%

[coral ibex]

wow is cpu bound for basically everyone

unless you have a 9800x3d then maybe ur not

[solid pilot]

5700x3d is actually having no problem

I upgraded from 3700x

[viscid spear]

I have low self-esteem

[solid pilot]

its actually coz of all the graphic uplifts

on an old engine

we can compare wow to modded skyrim

[high walrus]

I didn't know high memory usage would cause fps drops

[pure moth]

I added ram because I always have windows open. Fixed issue.. but one of my ram ports isn't registering now. Rip

My amd is crashing though. I freeze then black screen for a few seconds then the and crash report. I just get lucky its not during combat lol

[high walrus]

I'm standing in dornogal just doing nothing rn

[hollow river]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/2i0aXYYKCs

[high walrus]

graphics settings seem to change absolutely nothing about how much fps I'm getting

[hollow river]

this was linked to me yesterday

numerous people experiencing the same thing

since 11.1 mostly

[high walrus]

yeah that's exactly what I'm getting

since 11.1

I tried every single one of the things he did except rolling back windows

so would getting 32gb of RAM actually increase fps

if it gives me even 20 fps I'll just do that right now

[solid pilot]

easen up

on the system

why dont you buy gpu ?

even 6700

amd pairs really well toogether

[hollow river]

i don't think it will do much for fps no

[plucky thistle]

Can i have 2x crafted daggers?

[high walrus]

I just feel like it's way higher effort replacing more than the memory, and idk anything about sockets or whatever anymore

[solid pilot]

you can

[hollow river]

it will help if you like to have multiple things going at once, like wow+a browser

[plucky thistle]

ty

[solid pilot]

but whats the point

[hollow river]

2nd weapon is kind of a waste of a craft

[high walrus]

I mean people are getting more than 10 fps in raid

you said you have a similar cpu

[solid pilot]

btw

[high walrus]

and my gpu usage is at 20% at most in raid

[solid pilot]

you might have a bottleneck

[high walrus]

probably, but what

[solid pilot]

gpu

tho it depends

on the model of 1080

if it was made by evga it should do just fine

if you can safle roll back to other point

[high walrus]

idk it's geforce

[solid pilot]

before updates

you can try

in free time

ill try to look for some remedy

for you problem

if i find something actually working

[high walrus]

I've just given up trying to fix the freeze, I've kinda accepted that nobody else has found a fix for it either

but my fps has been awful for

as long as I can remember

if you can help me with that instead I'd very much appreciate it

only reason I stopped progress raiding was because I couldn't afford to upgrade my pc at the time and now I can

[solid pilot]

tbh this processor you have

shouldnt have any bigger hiccups

I would blame the gpu actually

since that is ancient

[high walrus]

yeah I bought it in like

2016?

could that be completely fucking my fps despite it having that low workload

[solid pilot]

it might be actually it last breaths

yup

bottle neck

stronger component is doing the heavy work

[high walrus]

am I gonna have to change my motherboard and shit too for some new support

haven't bought a gpu since well, 2016

[solid pilot]

when you go full windowed mode

[red schooner]

Isn't wow super reliant on the CPU anyhow?

[solid pilot]

it is but r5 3600 is not a bad cpu

this was the series that were great

[hollow river]

the freeze is something i don't think you can fix on your own, at least like you said no one has found a way

[high walrus]

even if it was awful I feel like it's not 10 fps awful

[solid pilot]

but still for wow

[hollow river]

your fps is definitely just your hardware

[solid pilot]

I would recomend going for 3dcache cpu

[high walrus]

yeah for sure

[hollow river]

i'm also on r5 3600

[high walrus]

I just don't know what to get

[hollow river]

and i used to use a 1030

[solid pilot]

and its fine

iksnt it ?

[hollow river]

i was able to raid fine

[solid pilot]

yup

your gpu is most likely dieing

[hollow river]

with absolute minimum graphics settings

the only thing that would cause lag was hella nameplates

[solid pilot]

its way overdue

[hollow river]

like Sire p1

[high walrus]

my fps seems to not be affected by my graphics settings what so ever

[solid pilot]

for cpu to work properly and had minimal bottleneck

[hollow river]

sitting in a city?

or in content

[solid pilot]

cpu and gpu should be equally strong

[high walrus]

like just standing in dornogal isn't much of a test but with renderscale at 100% and renderscale at 50% I have identical fps

[solid pilot]

what addons/wa you have ?

[hollow river]

yeah sitting in a city it won't change very much

[high walrus]

I feel like standing in a city where nothing is happening I want 100 fps

but maybe that's a luxury

[solid pilot]

let me ask you this

[high walrus]

uhhh is there any way to get a proper list

[solid pilot]

just screenshot

from addons

XD

[hollow river]

i have a 1660 now and don't get that much

[vocal hedge]

is it fine to macro signet into deathmark or have it as a seperate bind

[hollow river]

in dorn

[solid pilot]

6gb?

[hollow river]

idr

i get like 50-70 in dorn

[solid pilot]

even if wow is cpu bound game

[hollow river]

i get 150+ outside dorn

[solid pilot]

remember that all the new shit they added to game

[high walrus]

doesn't remotely fit in 1 screenshot

[solid pilot]

is taxing on gpu render

[solid pilot]

something that might interact with ui

heavy

changing it etc

not elvui\

[high walrus]

it's just WA and Details

not using elvui

[solid pilot]

no plater?

or any other nameplate addon ?

[midnight arrow]

Yes just macro it

[high walrus]

oh yeah plater sorry

[solid pilot]

turn it off for a sec

oh

and before that

turn off friendly nameplates

[high walrus]

I set my details to update once every second instead of 0.3 and nothing changed

[solid pilot]

you dont need those

[high walrus]

they're off

[solid pilot]

any difference?

[high walrus]

you asked for plater off specifically?

[solid pilot]

yes

[high walrus]

does it matter rif I'm just in dornogal

[solid pilot]

yup

[high walrus]

with no enemy plates

[solid pilot]

yup

[dapper cradle]

bro sudden demise pumps

even in hybrid build

[high walrus]

yup as in I should go somewhere else

or yup it's fine

[solid pilot]

try moving around

and watch fps

[high walrus]

oh yeah I use cell too

turned it off sec

got like 2-3 fps ish

without plater

[solid pilot]

normally i would tell you to test te gpu in a benchmark

but i dont want to risk it

[dapper cradle]

imagine if you could patch to zoldyck easily in hybrid build

that shit would make me buss

[high walrus]

I did my weekly 10s on all my characters if it's gonna crash and burn from a benchmark then so be it

I just don't know what GPU to get

haven't bought one in 100 years

[solid pilot]

whats your budget

and which side of globe

[high walrus]

I'm in Sweden

idk like 500 bugz

[solid pilot]

you got swedish crowns

hmm

[high walrus]

less if I need to swap out ram and or motherboard to fit it

[solid pilot]

do you have discord

overlay running

in background ?

[high walrus]

it's off

[solid pilot]

k

had to try

[high walrus]

I had it on when they updated it like a few days ago but before that it was always off

didn't seem like there was a difference

[solid pilot]

4 998,64

that much you got ?

[high walrus]

yeah

[solid pilot]

k

[high walrus]

give and take some

not a hard cutoff

[solid pilot]

lemme have a look

[high walrus]

thank you

[spice surge]

Play bleed and become a certified demisemaxxer

[solid pilot]

if you could tell me

which markets

or shop with parts you got

I need to get a check on your prices

sweeden is considered expensive to live

but other things used to be cheap

if i remember

THo i was in sweeden only for a week while exchange

as part of NATO

[high walrus]

inet.se is probably where I bought most of it

idk if there's an english version of the site

https://www.inet.se/kategori/164/grafikkort-gpu

yeah living here is expensive but idk how it translates to stuff like PC parts

[dapper cradle]

the numbers I've seen for demise crits in bleed build are crazy

15-25 mill demises

[solid pilot]

@high walrus will check for sure one thing

since at this price range

[dapper cradle]

fake damage but whatever

still fun

[solid pilot]

there is one card

that dominated them all

and it was B580

12gb 192bit

[high walrus]

isn't there some site that combines logicalincrements and pcpartspicker where it shows what the next logical upgrade is

someone should get on that

[solid pilot]

its not about that

your cpu can actually

cover any graphics that isnt hard-end

its 5 3600

tho we first

[hexed frost]

How's the motherlode azerrite trinket?

[solid pilot]

have to actually

see if its the gpu problem

[spice surge]

Alright

[solid pilot]

I wouldnt want you to go and buy a gpu while it turns out

this one is just fine

and it was some other weird problem

[high walrus]

my memory usage just spikes to 95% as soon as I open wow

but idk how much that would change anything

[errant heath]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[errant heath]

!talents

!talent

[hidden bay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[solid pilot]

try runing memtest

[high walrus]

memtest86?

[solid pilot]

and try running diagnostic tools for windows

[solid pilot]

try the windows one first

[high walrus]

Windows Memory Diagnostic I'm guesing?

[solid pilot]

ye

[high walrus]

alright sending it

[solid pilot]

and tell me

what program

or process

does spike

as for the card

amazon delivers to sweeden ?

since I dont really know

since basicly buying from side of my country

lemme check delivery

[vast shuttle]

why is my whistle tea using itself without me clicking on it?

[high walrus]

Ran it and now I'm just sitting here looking at a black monitor

[keen spruce]

Us that’s how it works

Cuz

[solid pilot]

it started y?

not gonna ask if you have wow on m2 disk

[high walrus]

It's definitely on but my Mobo has a yellow light

[spice surge]

Because you dropped below 30 energy

[high walrus]

I think it's on my M2 drive, it's on that or another ssd

[hardy rapids]

people dont like stonevault?

I fucking loooooooooved stonevault

[keen spruce]

Stonevault was a banger

[spice surge]

People only like dungeons that were piss easy

[keen spruce]

People just like ez

[fleet pagoda]

SV good

[keen spruce]

Yeah

[fleet pagoda]

I'd vote for Floodgate if we didn't have it this season. great dungeon

[hardy rapids]

stonevault is the only hard dungeon I liked if im being fair

[solid pilot]

btw I found a shop near you

[spice surge]

As is evident by the love for mists and shadowmoon

[keen spruce]

People would put smbg on a top dungeon list too even though its would of the worst to ever do it

Can u stop

[hardy rapids]

mists is so LAAAAAAAME

[high walrus]

Think my PC just decided to not start and my Mobo has a yellow light

[keen spruce]

Eleem

[spice surge]

[high walrus]

This happened once when restarting normally though

[keen spruce]

Taking the thing I’m gonna say

[solid pilot]

ProShop

[solid pilot]

what

[keen spruce]

[solid pilot]

sound

any sound ?

[high walrus]

Just sounds like it does when it's on

[warm vortex]

Stonevault is horrid

[high walrus]

I can just press the power button twice and it's gonna start normally

Happened before

Just idk why

[hardy rapids]

weirdo.

[keen spruce]

The only stinky part of SV was skarmorak

[hardy rapids]

:)

[keen spruce]

And the dk requirement

At high keys

[solid pilot]

it should

be in a sequence

long long

short long

etc

etc

what mobo

you have

[spice surge]

Def wouldnt say it was a requirement, but ye dk made it easier

[haughty flicker]

not to be rude or anything but can the tech support go into dms

[high walrus]

There's definitely no sound, just fans spinning normally

[haughty flicker]

we only talk about cats here

[solid pilot]

@high walrus can you link me a photo

of inside the box

[keen spruce]

Idk some comps felt kind of cursed at 17+ on that fight

[solid pilot]

so i can see manufacturere

[haughty flicker]

stonevault sucked

[spice surge]

Assa+enhance was fine

[high walrus]

I'll dm

[keen spruce]

But my buddies did it with pirate, fury, ele

[spice surge]

Just needed to actually use cds on shield

[keen spruce]

Ig

[solid pilot]

k

since now it can also be another thing

[spice surge]

But you could also just have a good healer heal through a lot of it

[solid pilot]

or rather 2

[keen spruce]

Tru tru

[solid pilot]

either Mobo died, tho doubt it

or psu

or gpu

[keen spruce]

Dk was just a cheat code tho

[spice surge]

But ye i wouldnt say stonevault was a banger, but it was decent

[solid pilot]

since if you dont have gpu working, giving signal it wont turn. But it would give sound

[warm vortex]

Nah im the sane one

[spice surge]

Floodgate and dawn def my favourites from this expac

[haughty flicker]

is any dungeon in tww a banger

i think floodgate is pretty cool

[keen spruce]

Dawn was gud

[sullen mural]

bleed build enjoyers rise up

[hardy rapids]

nuh uh

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[warm vortex]

Uh huh

[hexed frost]

This is anything but bleed

[copper pine]

does anyone know why my ST in some keys is the biggest shit on this planet ? Rerolled to Assa and its wild

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ndqQahRXmb1CVc2F?fight=last&type=damage-done&target=177&source=15&pull=10

[warm vortex]

Assa St is dogshit

[hexed frost]

Because assa st is diarrhoea poop

[hardy rapids]

you played assa

[thorn thorn]

[spice surge]

Idk i like most of them besides city of threads

[haughty flicker]

i dont hate any of them

[keen spruce]

I liked city a lot

[hardy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/капибара-gif-15656021286497190682

[keen spruce]

Except the RP area

[haughty flicker]

but banger is a strong word for any of them i think

[warm vortex]

Yeathats me

Avarage SV disliker

[copper pine]

i know but my st dmg is way more dogshit then it should be 😄

[haughty flicker]

floodgate and dawnbreaker are probably the best i think

[keen spruce]

Tbh

[hardy rapids]

Stonevault was sooo cool though

[haughty flicker]

just because they're kind of unique

[warm vortex]

This

[thorn thorn]

The only ones I dislike were City of Threads and Stonevault (healer opinion tho)

[spice surge]

Meadery is good too

[keen spruce]

Ara was my least favorite du grin of s1

[sullen mural]

what else is it if not bleed

[hardy rapids]

dawnbreaker is the WORST

[keen spruce]

By a pretty wide margin

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[keen spruce]

DB was fun

[hardy rapids]

I hate it with a passion thats undescribable

[wild lily]

i covered myself in red food coloring

[keen spruce]

Creative routing

Fun tech

[warm vortex]

Gratz on the cancer

Soz to hear

[keen spruce]

A few big lulls

[wild lily]

it spilt everywhere

[hardy rapids]

red 40

[keen spruce]

Pulls

[hexed frost]

Someone in this discord is definitely thinking about putting their peepee in it's poopoo

[hardy rapids]

:/

[viscid spear]

[warm vortex]

Dandy

That is assuming we don't do that to eachother

Have you seen how we act towards eachother

[viscid spear]

TWENTY-EIGHT SECONDS

[hexed frost]

Ravenholdt centipede

[hardy rapids]

its already happening to each other

[viscid spear]

[thorn thorn]

[viscid spear]

I lagged super hard twice, one of which I DCed.

[hexed frost]

Sometimes I post such unhinged degen garbo that I feel like God put on earth as punishment

For everyone

[warm vortex]

Not really

you havent seen both varas and quake then

[viscid spear]

That's only the second portal I've gotten ever since they introduced them.
My first was Court in Legion

[haughty flicker]

ven if i start playing my bm hunter how often will i fall asleep mid key

[thorn thorn]

A lot

[warm vortex]

Genuinly if you track it not too much

Having like -2 defensives keeps you on your toes

[hardy rapids]

bm hunter will make you snooze asap

[haughty flicker]

is that no cd build the meta

[warm vortex]

Compared to the defs of rogue

Yes it is

You mainly do dps by tracking your bear

[haughty flicker]

its ok i play boomkin and refuse to use bear form

[lucid silo]

are people running numbing or atrophic in m+ this season

[haughty flicker]

im used to not having defensives

[warm vortex]

Na

This aint that fake bear shit

[haughty flicker]

thats a big bear

[thorn thorn]

Wait, cotw is dropped for M+?

[warm vortex]

Yea

No CoTW

[thorn thorn]

Lame

[warm vortex]

Rn you just wanna cycle through as many Beastial wraths as you can to pop out as many bears as possible

[haughty flicker]

at least you have dire beast

[warm vortex]

cause for some reason, pack leader comes with 2 useless pets in comparison to the bear

The boar and wyvern

[thorn thorn]

Love the rework

[warm vortex]

Bear is considered a dire beast so it gets cleave

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[warm vortex]

Genuinly so much better yea

[thorn thorn]

I almost played BM cuz I was excited for the rework until I realized that pack leader was just "bear summon the hero talent"

[warm vortex]

So much more flavour than "Every other KC is stronger ig"

BM stands for bear master after all

[thorn thorn]

Now I play WW cuz I am fotm scum

[viscid spear]

Got a chest in my cache, wonderful /sarcasm

[thorn thorn]

[warm vortex]

Be grateful

There are some lootless losers out there

That can't even play wow

[dawn seal]

how do people do 4 million dps on first boss

on heroic

🤔

[haughty flicker]

damage amp op

[warm vortex]

On details?

[thorn thorn]

[dawn seal]

nono logs

[warm vortex]

Damage amp

[fleet pagoda]

• short kill time

[warm vortex]

Just do so much big dick damage that it starts dragging on the floor and causing you to trick

[fleet pagoda]

and they blast

[dawn seal]

do I hold my dm if the boss phases at 1 min 30 secs

[viscid spear]

Was hoping to replace more Champion gear

[warm vortex]

Why...

wouldn't you

You do more damage if the boss takes more damage

[dawn seal]

yeahh

makes sense

whoo

[warm vortex]

Skill issue just get luckier

[dawn seal]

woo

[warm vortex]

I think at least idk i don't fucking play assassination anymore

But i just think if you don't hold your 2 mins for that

You are Troll

[viscid spear]

🐈‍⬛

[warm vortex]

No i said LUCKIER

not less lucky

Dork

[thorn thorn]

[runic hinge]

the damage amp lasts long enough you can send on pull and get dm back for it

dont hold

[warm vortex]

Wait fr?

Ok nvm ignore me

im a fucking rodent ig

[thorn thorn]

We spread a little misinformation

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-3417245934051922481

I'm sorry

[runic hinge]

yeah its like 45 seconds and it'll only phase at exactly 1:30 if everyone is perfect on bikes/oil

[warm vortex]

OIk i lied aparently

Mb

[rough rapids]

do i just macro priory with Deathmark and forget about it?

[runic hinge]

yes

[dawn seal]

its heroic

its heroic

[warm vortex]

Oh so still hold

Because people are stinky

[runic hinge]

no

[warm vortex]

No
rewmember priory

[runic hinge]

don't hold

[warm vortex]

For it gives you power

[dawn seal]

okay

[warm vortex]

But what if you have sloppy shit teamates like dinkler the disc priest that has his thumb in his asshole every pull and tries to hit his teammates with the bike instead of the boss

[cursive sphinx]

Is garrote cleave "smart"?
Let's say I have 6 enemies grouped closely. I apply the talented (cleave) garrote on one target. It applies to 2 others. Now I choose another target without the dot, and cast garrote again.

Will it cleave to those without garrote?

[warm vortex]

Yes

It does the same with rup

[viscid spear]

Quake knows, I have zero self-esteem so I don't push myself

[thorn thorn]

Vote kick

[runic hinge]

then the intermission will be later and your cds will fit inside perfectly if you sent on pull

[warm vortex]

What if i can't kick

2 broken legs

[thorn thorn]

Gquit or find another group ig

[warm vortex]

Sure buddy

[vast hound]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[warm vortex]

tbh i just save my CoTW for it anyway but i might try that nextime

If we aren't stuck on mugzee hell

[runic hinge]

sent every cd on cd, its fine

[warm vortex]

Aight bet

Acc whats your highest parse

My ones this season

[dawn seal]

even my pooti,on

[runic hinge]

I am only 4/8 cause i only raid 3 hours a week

[dawn seal]

or do I hold potion for amp

[vast hound]

how much AOE can a 656ilvl rogue do like thats the optimal for a big m+ pull?

[warm vortex]

Bro what sort of question is that

There are so many variables

Idk damage?

[vast hound]

i know but the highest i got was like 7m

couldnt get it higher

7m dps*

on cinderbrew first pull of trash

[warm vortex]

What dungeon, what comp, what build, what level, with lust?

[onyx gyro]

Assassin best rogue spec now. Notice on Warcraft logs in top 5 for all fights now

[haughty flicker]

ok im convinced

sin is just melee bm anyway

so time to play bm bm

ven teach me

[runic hinge]

you can have my normal parses for free

[warm vortex]

Normal zzzzz

[vast hound]

cinderbrew with priest pi and BL 656

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[warm vortex]

Okay that seems pretty low?
At least id think so

Idk tho

[vast hound]

idk what im doing wrong xD

[haughty flicker]

where lfr parses

[vast hound]

i spread garrote and rupture to as many targets as possible then crimson tempest and spam FoK and envenom

[runic hinge]

unlcuky

[warm vortex]

Just make sure Cleave is up 24/&
BW top prio
use KC or BS (whatever is closer to max stacks)
use dire beast if either KC or BS is on 1 charge

Theres the hyper basic version

[warm vortex]

Ah

found the problem

[fleet pagoda]

lots of non elites in that room. they die fast, you're a dot class. if they get your random bleed applications from carnage then

[warm vortex]

Just get 5

Then mash envenom and spatter

[vast hound]

but do i use mutilate when i have more than 2 targets?

[thorn thorn]

Tell your co-dps to stop pumping so you can parse

In aoe you just use mutilate to upkeep spatter

[vast hound]

just to get it correctly u mean 5 targets with garrote+rupture?

[haughty flicker]

you use mutilate whenever you need to refresh spatter

otherwise press fok

[vast hound]

oh good to know thanks alot for the tips everyone 😄

[thorn thorn]

If you have IC you just spread it to a couple of targets

Then in aoe you spatter something and slam fok and envenoms

The bleeds are mostly for energy regen

[vast hound]

these are the talents i use for M+

[thorn thorn]

And mainstat

[fleet pagoda]

pay attention to those targets though. if they all die and the elites have no bleeds, bleed 'em up. happens in brew and rookery a lot to me

[vast hound]

if a pull is big enough is it worth to vanish and reapply empowered garrote?

[fleet pagoda]

without the conditions being outlined, that's pretty hard to answer

[vast hound]

optimally when should i use vanish+garrote only on bosses?

[runic hinge]

i use vanish for iron wire

keep them bitches silenced

[warm vortex]

I just used vanish for MA when i was playing as

[runic hinge]

SILENCE VEN

[haughty flicker]

im a gigachad and dont use iw

[runic hinge]

lmao gottem

[vast hound]

i dont use ironwire ;p

[haughty flicker]

so i use vanish for whatever i want

[runic hinge]

I do because pugs are apes

[vast shuttle]

is it usal that i jaberly have energy when i do raides?

[runic hinge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[vast shuttle]

ty

[runic hinge]

you're welcome

[vast hound]

when i pop cds do i use Shiv before Deathmark or it doesnt matter?

[runic hinge]

dm>shiv>kb

[fleet pagoda]

if it's in aoe you only shiv if that's a high prio target or if you have Arterial Precision talented

[warm vortex]

Wiat

No running our of energy in raid ST is harder no?

Or does VV make it harder

[sudden brook]

ur constnatly out of energy on sin

Theres no pooling so u just spam

[lavish wing]

Rip tea 🤣

[red schooner]

VV means I'm almost always energy starved outside of CDs

Normally burn through all teas in the first minute

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mookiebetts-ladodgers-dodgers-celebrate-dodgerdance-gif-8540955867918769234

[raw crane]

Is there a recommended video guide?

[normal mist]

Maybe WHISPYR has stuff on his channel

Otherwise is mostly written

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/bryce-harper-philadelphia-phillies-bryce-harper-gif-26972943

[thorn thorn]

Is Sin

[haughty flicker]

yes

[thorn thorn]

Is sin washed

[cerulean nest]

you see what he did last night?

[haughty flicker]

yes

[raw crane]

lol, the m+ video by whispyr is 1.5 hours

[normal mist]

A short one in whispyr terms

[coral ibex]

he's a grade S yapper

[normal mist]

(me, who just posted that gif because I found it funny and was on the "trending" gifs) bro fuck yeah it was so funny

https://tenor.com/view/dodgers-gif-3624115776049113682

[thorn thorn]

Yappachino

[viscid spear]

Sin is my underwear

[thorn thorn]

Oh so its dirty

Unlucky

[viscid spear]

Unwashed you dingus

Don't make me leave you voicemails of me meowing

[thorn thorn]

My cats leave me tons of voicemails already

[viscid spear]

Oh, you keep in touch with Will still?

[thorn thorn]

Yup

[viscid spear]

I see him in raid chat sometimes

I'll be doing my usual AYAYA routine and suddenly he'll just MEEEEOOOOOWWWW in chat

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

[limpid blade]

Hi all, is there any weak aura to track "jackpot" procs from tier set?

or in our case winning streak

[balmy condor]

Probably is on wago somewhere but it’s pointless to do so

[haughty flicker]

there is no reason to track it

[onyx gyro]

What should an assassin rogue track on their weak auras ?

[normal mist]

His sanity

[bleak dune]

Hi guys , is it possible to carry 2x craftet dagger? 1x with embellishment and 1x without ?

[normal mist]

Yes

[fervent fog]

Hi yes you can

[normal mist]

You can have your whole gear be crafted

[normal mist]

Rupture/garrote/caustic/shiv and CDs probably

[bleak dune]

but idk if this is a smart idea^^

[normal mist]

It isn't no

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are boot/wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" overall, but Blessed Weapon Grip + Dawnthread can be VERY VERY slightly better in m+

Always craft a dagger for at least an offhand. Put Ascencion or Blessed Weapon Grip on it. Additional Crafts should be Boots/Cape/Wrist/Belt for your second embellishment, after that whatever low item level slot is fine, necks can be good crafts.
If you have a myth track weapon in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

Read above @bleak dune

[bleak dune]

i have dagger mainhand and boots with embellishment , after this its "free to go" if i get it right xD

[normal mist]

Anything but offhand

(in case you have a crafted already)

[bleak dune]

iam confused ^^

[normal mist]

You want an embellished dagger.

[bleak dune]

i have one

[normal mist]

Then you don't want to craft a second dagger

Just because there are probably better crafts you could do rn

[bleak dune]

but its my lowest itemlvl and i have over 15x mechagon trips after me

[normal mist]

Have you simmed crafting a dagger VS anything else?

[bleak dune]

i was planing it , but i dont understand how to put gear in the sim you dont have

[normal mist]

In top gear there's an option on the top to basically add gear

And you can choose statsz sockets, emb, etc

[bleak dune]

ahhh i see

[balmy condor]

second dagger craft is an insta ban

[haughty flicker]

[viscid spear]

You have to have it to lose it, son

[bleak dune]

woot? but i did 15x Mechagon already this dagger dont drop -.-

[normal mist]

Offhand DPS is basically 0

[balmy condor]

offhand daggers are zdps yeh

[severe meadow]

Our offhand is basically our least important slot

Don't worry about it as much

[bleak dune]

Okay, but pugs are like : meh itemlvl low bla bla

[grand trail]

its very important slot to me

[nova shadow]

its not ilvl pugs ppl want for a +10 to be 3k

basically they want to be carried

[viscid spear]

[thorn thorn]

I wasnt aware of this until after I crafted 2 daggers last season

[balmy condor]

[bleak dune]

okay , then i will sim all other slots ^^ Thanks guys :*

[dawn seal]

did we get the buffs ?

[nova shadow]

675 chest piece is pretty solid imo if yours like champion it is around 2k agi diff

[dawn seal]

are t hey live on eu

[nova shadow]

1k*

[bleak dune]

Have the motherload 665 chest already

[nova shadow]

thats solid then like hands/head

[balmy condor]

wdym by "the buffs"

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[grand trail]

Did whispyr said buffs? I'm so ready

[strange tundra]

it was like 3% dmg

[grand trail]

https://tenor.com/view/round2round-two-gif-8817934

[lavish wing]

We get more buffs?

R they in sims

[thorn thorn]

Buffs?

Sims updated?

[grand trail]

Ello?

[thorn thorn]

Do buffs change talents

[dawn seal]

like the vicous venoms

[thorn thorn]

Or prio

[strange tundra]

please more buffs need to beat uhdk

[dawn seal]

I see most people do vicous venoms

did we get the buff yet

[balmy condor]

yes? they've been active all week

[lavish wing]

Cant see anything on wowhead, gotta delete cache

[dawn seal]

what

D:

I am dumb

[grand trail]

Damn sub fell off

[balmy condor]

god I hate this

[grand trail]

I'm ready for another 5.7%

[strange tundra]

outlaw is better for safe chain pulls assa we need risky really big pulls

[nova shadow]

isnt this unplayable if ur like 5 % haste

[grand trail]

And buff CT in meantime

[nova shadow]

full stacked on crit mastery

[lavish wing]

Solid 5.7

[spice spire]

I’m ready to get pinged 690 times for rat key reviews

Just for them to say “why my st bad”

[runic hinge]

I'm sending you my log after this key

[balmy condor]

please stop I can't separate the trolls from the actual noobs

[grand trail]

Purge then

[strange tundra]

i have 69% mastery

[spice spire]

How about you take my hog pal

[lavish wing]

Nice

[nova shadow]

I'm actually considering myself a noob I do dps but my rogue is less then a month old

[balmy condor]

yeah but you don't gotta do all that baiting about haste and shit

I can't take it

[spice surge]

Blizzard is gonna see this (or their internal data which should be similar) and buff BP for sub

Which is probably the absolute dumbest solution

[nova shadow]

Please explain why is it bait dont you run dry on energy

[spice surge]

Well haste doesnt make you run out of energy much less

[nova shadow]

yes but this talent makes so your multilate cost 5 more energy even less drier

[spice surge]

Yes

[haughty flicker]

you are going to run out of energy either way

haste does not make you suddenly gain infinite energy

its just how the spec plays

[balmy condor]

if you want to not run dry on energy, you would need 75% haste without vicious venoms and 90% with

[coral ibex]

you dont get how little haste increases energy regen

[balmy condor]

I mean

does haste help? sure

[haughty flicker]

75% haste pog

[balmy condor]

but also no

it doesn't lmao

[haughty flicker]

me making priory give haste and only using it outside of cds

[balmy condor]

like by all technicalities, haste makes you not run out of energy as fast

but you'd need so much fucking haste

to even make a dent

[coral ibex]

you'd have 0 of every other stat

[balmy condor]

I mean forget 0 of every other stat

it's not achieveable with gear

[dawn seal]

so wait

[nova shadow]

I mean I know you wont be having infinite energy going haste but my thoughts are it will compensate the 5 energy increase the talents adds, like you are already very low on energy and st and you'd rather not make yourself any more slower idk

[balmy condor]

not just this patch, but any patch

[unreal tide]

so if i'm hearing you right, cursed hate enchants = winning?

[dawn seal]

I read and watched ur video but I am in a raid I am sorry for asking this whispyr

[balmy condor]

unless they bring back stat corruptions

[dawn seal]

but what does it change in rotation I just dont fok

righty

untill 4 targets

[balmy condor]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[dawn seal]

does anything else happen with vv

[unreal tide]

you don't vanish for damage cause no MA

[balmy condor]

yeah sure it compensates, but why would you compensate when there's other stats that are better

like you could get an extra 1 mutilate every 5 minutes

or you could just do more damage

[coral ibex]

if you dont like playing a slow, resource-negative spec, play a different spec

like definitely dont play assa, the slow boomer spec literally known for pooling at many points in history

[haughty flicker]

play bm, based on this lfr run your energy bar is cosmetic

[nova shadow]

xd

No I wont play bm or anything I love my rogue

I was just giving a noob take on this the vv talent

infact bm is the most boring shit out there

[haughty flicker]

im ngl

[nova shadow]

played a bit in legion

[haughty flicker]

i dont think sin has any room to speak about that in its current iteration

[nova shadow]

aint no way sin is the most fun spec so far

[haughty flicker]

but hating hunters is based

and yeah i still love sin

[nova shadow]

and probably one of the hardest to play

its challenging

[coral ibex]

assa is still playing fast considering past specs, no?

[balmy condor]

what exactly is challenging about assa these days

[haughty flicker]

yeah uh

[nova shadow]

Doing 5m overall like the top rogues

[haughty flicker]

its just melee bm

[nova shadow]

thats challenging no

[coral ibex]

remembering to hold my cds until 38 secs on stix bunkjunker

i wanna press em so bad

[balmy condor]

"doing as much damage as #1 player" is challenging on every spec though

and most of that comes because they fucking double pull and chain pull out of their mind

[nova shadow]

not as the #1 man literally every single of the top 1 - 100 maybe are pulling numbers

[balmy condor]

yeah

they're not doing anything different

[coral ibex]

yea if your tank pulled exactly around your cooldowns

you'd do 5m overall too

[balmy condor]

turns out being in combat with like 10 mobs perma is good for dps

[coral ibex]

i'm really in love with your bleed+kb build whisp

huuuuuuuuge dam even in 12's

[balmy condor]

if you haven't simmed it yet there was an update I pushed last night

[coral ibex]

funny seeing CT as top dam contributor

i havent

[balmy condor]

also did a quick check, you can get the APM back that was lost with vicious venoms

at the low low cost of 20% haste

or around 11k rating

[coral ibex]

i'm not far off that tbh

esp with haste effect from flask

[balmy condor]

no no

an ADDITIONAL 11k rating

[nova shadow]

wow 11k is a lot

[balmy condor]

not 11k total

whatever haste you have already

[nova shadow]

thats clearly unreachable it would result in massive dps loss

[balmy condor]

+11k

[coral ibex]

OH

lmao

[balmy condor]

like this random sim I had

had 9k haste

I had to push it to 20k haste

to get it where it is without vicious

[nova shadow]

so 17k haste xd ye nvm

[lavish wing]

At what point gcd goes to 0 🤣

[nova shadow]

btw are you guys pulling better numbers with different builds but the one classic with master assasin kingsbane double vanish

[unreal tide]

i'm a sucker for the classics

[balmy condor]

no class can go below 1s gcd baseline

[shy axle]

what update did you make? wowhead still shows the old one for me

[balmy condor]

I think it's just outlaw with adrenaline rush and time distortion effects from stuff like the nighthold bosses

[balmy condor]

well yeh I didn't update wowhead

there's no update needed

just changed some sim stuff

cause bleed builds weren't simming entirely correct

[shy axle]

good to know, ty!

[midnight arrow]

I thought that the 1.5 sec gcd classes could go to .75 sec gcd at 100% haste

[balmy condor]

don't think so but maybe

that seems weird to me

not that that's achieveable anyway

[wooden perch]

can anyone link me a weakaura that yellls focus or kick

when ur focus target casts

[magic thorn]

Are the sim changes already live Whispyr ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[magic thorn]

Nice

[runic hinge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3VDbkRGT1nKXzyMw?fight=last @spice spire

[haughty flicker]

[spice spire]

Mf had more vanish casts than kick

[haughty flicker]

infinite iw value

[balmy condor]

wdym, vanish is my kick

[spice spire]

Kicking less than once every two minutes king?

[runic hinge]

there aint shit to kick in there

that i cant iron wire

[vast shuttle]

" which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane". dont understand this pooling? is it that i shouldnt use abilites until kb?

[runic hinge]

correct

pooling means dont push buttons

[vast shuttle]

ty

[gentle jewel]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

17 feints

[runic hinge]

0 deaths

no wasted energy

[spice spire]

Yet you casted crimson vial 15 times while only using pots twice

Curious

[cerulean walrus]

God I love red drink

[runic hinge]

i could only cast pot 4 times if i did it on cd lol

[spice spire]

Erm 6 times actually

[dawn seal]

OMG

GUYS

[spice spire]

25/5 = 5 + 0 minute

[dawn seal]

YAY

ILVL PARSES

[spice spire]

Grats king

[dawn seal]

thanks

woo

[spice spire]

Solid bit

[nova shadow]

@balmy condor Do you run any diff build for top

[balmy condor]

nah just hybrid

[nova shadow]

like might this vv build work there

[balmy condor]

oh god no

there's still aoe

[dawn seal]

is swaping to bandit add my job

[balmy condor]

you give up an insane amount of damage not using scent of blood/sudden demise/shrouded

[dawn seal]

[balmy condor]

probably not

[dawn seal]

oka oka

[balmy condor]

swapping to adds isn't really out job

[fleet pagoda]

i give up an insane amount of damage by being bad at the game

[balmy condor]

based and real

[dawn seal]

why do people dont play tiny toxic blade on bandit

[balmy condor]

there's adds

[dawn seal]

ohh yeah

[unique mirage]

@balmy condor what type of build would you play for rik reverb mythic when you need strong fast AOE for barrel dmg and barrels need to die in about 10 sces

[runic hinge]

at least i cast red drink

[balmy condor]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[coral ibex]

!cancelrant rik -8h

[spice spire]

I do as well when every other option is used. You also overhealed 33% of your cv

Suspect padding mister nugz

[haughty flicker]

the build is called sub

[runic hinge]

my healer was too good

[balmy condor]

target swapping on a spec that literally can't

[spice spire]

Your healer died twice to normal mechanics

[wicked mica]

do we have an ideal stat percentage spread for raid or mythic plus? not sure the best way to sim if I have a bunch of diferent gear pieces/enchantment options

[spice spire]

It wasn’t heal diff

[runic hinge]

it was i swear

[balmy condor]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[dawn seal]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[lavish wing]

So does assa have similar Rik problems on Gally, with adds?

[balmy condor]

those typically reach

see second pin

[runic hinge]

that was her second ever flood gate

[spice spire]

Oh I’m not flaming the healer

But it wasn’t heal diff’d

Some unethical padding of cv casts

[lavish wing]

So basically tanks have to pull adds now to melee range so we can hit em too?

[spice spire]

I’m still dogshit at it

[balmy condor]

they spawn in melee range

[haughty flicker]

they will normally be within range

[balmy condor]

you just stand on top of em

[haughty flicker]

the ww will blow them up anyway but at least caustic will hit them

[lavish wing]

Of boss? Im a bit confused rn

[haughty flicker]

boss in his big hole

adds spawn around boss

adds group up

stand on adds and hit boss

[lavish wing]

Im pretty sure we got adds almost near the edge once, the spawn that overlaps woth the soaks

[haughty flicker]

that does happen

[ashen scroll]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[lavish wing]

The first adds r around the boss, yes

[haughty flicker]

most adds are around boss

that one set isnt

i just died in lfr to type that

[runic hinge]

this spec is sooo fun in keys tho

[lavish wing]

Aye, got it now

[haughty flicker]

im cod you the repair bill

[runic hinge]

why am i playing anything else

my defenisves and kicks are bad, my damage is mid but im having fun

[lavish wing]

Why u in lfr this is like 4th week

[haughty flicker]

because i want to do lfr on an alt

good way to refresh how to play

[spice spire]

Damage is fine

[velvet temple]

good evening, 2 questions:

1. I sometimes notice that I just don't take damage from some hits and dodge them, anything that causes this or any way to play around it?
2. the regular hybrid build feels good in all dungeons, but in higher keys (13+) ToP feels kinda awful on assa with 5 bosses and a lot of minibosses. is there any reason to use some cooked up raid build with indiscriminate carnage for just that dungeon?

I've checked some top assa logs for that dungeon and all of them played with a version of the hybrid build, but I'd presume they were playing with a premade and a more thought out comp

currently joining other people's keys a lot, so don't really have a say in the comp, so I'd just assume that there'd be value in at least some of the raid talents, as there's just so many big guys there

[balmy condor]

1. you can't dodge basically anything targetted or important mechanically so idk what abilities you're referring to
2. definitely not

[dawn seal]

how does seaforium work

does it give another extra 3k crit

[balmy condor]

it procs once a minute and give you some crit for 15 seconds

and in that time, you crit a bunch

so it extends another 15 seconds

[dawn seal]

ohh

so its like every 30 sec

[balmy condor]

it's 30s of crit every 60s

[dawn seal]

ohh

[velvet temple]

at least in ToP, the minibosses that have the blue circle around them and a lot of brown circles with some unavoidable aoe, I've at least twice just not taken the unavoidable bit of damage with the "dodge" text appearing on my frames

[balmy condor]

then you can probably evasion those

[spice surge]

Yes you can dodge whirlwind from those mobs

[velvet temple]

might have used evasion for the large blue hit and it just lasted until that bit?

[balmy condor]

probably