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earnest remnant
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my race gets picked based on what does the most dmg / is needed for prog

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every tier

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i LOVED

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being a gnome last tier

solid pilot
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XD

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good thing back in tbc/wotlk/cata

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guilds didnt expect so much

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maybe from the top of the top

earnest remnant
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@balmy condor forgot to tell you but you will also need to do a lil bit of One Armed prog, our best pull is 8% so no pressure, OH and you are calling out adds on the fight

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so come prepared tyty

solid pilot
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😅

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have faith in your own skill cmon

earnest remnant
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im fine, i just dont wanna play

solid pilot
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the only excuse would be to look for that sugar mommy

earnest remnant
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exactly

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im going out hunting

solid pilot
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well, cleared of all charges

balmy condor
earnest remnant
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gotta find a way to dodge the miss's as well

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brb buying a new dog

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so she is distracted

solid pilot
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XD

balmy condor
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woof

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bark

solid pilot
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dogs are magnets

balmy condor
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bark bark

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woof woof

solid pilot
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for girls actually

earnest remnant
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if you moved in

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xD

balmy condor
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WOOF WOOF WOOF

earnest remnant
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oh shit not the barking in header text

balmy condor
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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

livid marlin
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Night guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️

solid pilot
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coton_de_Tulear

Coton de Tulear

The Coton de Tuléar is a breed of small dog named for the city of Tuléar (also known as Toliara) in Madagascar. This breed is thought to have originated from a group of small white dogs that swam across the Malagasy channel following a shipwreck. Known for its cotton-like coat, the Coton de Tuléar typically grows to no more than 18 pounds (8....

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not gona post mine, but wiki page

earnest remnant
solid pilot
livid marlin
earnest remnant
solid pilot
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or mornign

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since its 5.49

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in uk it will be 4.49 if im correct

earnest remnant
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UK is fake anyway

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made up place

solid pilot
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they wanted to be different

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from rest of europe

earnest remnant
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english people that cant english

solid pilot
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xD

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worked there for a bit

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the only people i got along with were either irish

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or scottish

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and those i did understand

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in London, while talkin to natives I had really hard time to understand what they were saying

earnest remnant
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dont talk to scouse people then

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gl

solid pilot
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I dont know which dialect it was

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but well , you might be on something with this

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further away from london people were nicier

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and actually talked well, a bit louder slower

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well of to game i go

strange python
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They were scousers

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They don’t get knocked out

rotund oak
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u will change ur mind

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very fast

solid pilot
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XD

rotund oak
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xd

solid pilot
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I think I had a guildie back in cata

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who was from there

rotund oak
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im half from north yorkshire

solid pilot
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tho he was cussing

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and quite well, creative at that also

rotund oak
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must be the exception

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😂

solid pilot
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yorkshire, the home of yorks

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or so they say

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never looked in to that actually

rotund oak
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yup

solid pilot
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ah so I wasnt lied to

rotund oak
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they also say somehting about the best pudding

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but thats

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debatable

solid pilot
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heard that

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tho I never had a pudding

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the way on the isles you have it

rotund oak
solid pilot
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yup, just checked

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and no never had it

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funny thing, what you call Pudding

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we call Budyn, and those are 2 different things

rotund oak
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that sounds

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nothing like UK

solid pilot
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or my definition of pudding word might be wrong all toogether

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xD

balmy condor
solid pilot
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if you knew how many songs, that we call classics now

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are subbed to what we Poles actually hear

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like that one song everybody know

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but just adding inappropriate words

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Btw, Is it worth doing delves higher than 8 ? In terms of looking for trinkets etc

balmy condor
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no

blazing pumice
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delver's bounty is the same drop %

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assuming you are after hero track

rotund oak
rotund oak
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or u stuck on mugzee like everyone

balmy condor
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yeah we cremated frosty

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oh

rotund oak
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.....

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im sorry for ur loss

balmy condor
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it's okay, I'm coping

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we're on sprocketmonger

somber sparrow
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we recently had to cremate our 12 year old cat Emmy

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he scratched our dog once and our dog (a border collie) was scared of him ever since lol

rotund oak
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we burried my old dogo he reached 15

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very old,very grumpy

coral ibex
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i miss my childhood dog

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she was such a good girl

rotund oak
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circle of life,it is what it is

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new one grows up a yapper

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its like outlaw channel,only live

solid pilot
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sorry for your loss

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in recent years

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I burried many close ones

rotund oak
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dw,he had a good life,im happy he reached to that age

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ok,lets skip that part

solid pilot
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my friend (Cat named Diablo), My father

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my best pal

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so i feel ya

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when I lose this one i dont know how I am gonna cope with it

waxen oyster
solid pilot
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a man can only lose so much

waxen oyster
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+7 from doing an 11

rotund oak
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gilded ye sure,the higher the better

waxen oyster
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Yeah if you have enough keys to farm fs

rotund oak
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ive got 14 and im spaming

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but im doing alot of content

waxen oyster
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I found farming 11s on tank alts faster than runed

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from keys

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or anything

rotund oak
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yeah might be the case

waxen oyster
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its 11 runed even if you did it that day

solid pilot
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fuckin trinkets

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not existing

waxen oyster
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got sus energy drink on warrior

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and shaman

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got mechano core on rogue like 2nd delve of the season

solid pilot
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oh my

rotund oak
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the alt-effect

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like my mage

solid pilot
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i got Mechano-Core Ampl

rotund oak
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breathes and loots bis

solid pilot
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even tho its champion

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its gonna fit

waxen oyster
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nah main

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my dh got hero amp from first map of the season

solid pilot
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well my another rogue which i created, well coz i wanted to

waxen oyster
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Well delve trinkets not as relevant on main anymore

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not replacing myth pacemaker

solid pilot
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got everything, but had the same curse as the main

waxen oyster
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ever

solid pilot
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the trecherous transmiter

waxen oyster
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turbozap or whatever keeps dropping from my maps

solid pilot
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from map

waxen oyster
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have yet to see many necks from delves

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that arent crit vers

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or the vers haste one

solid pilot
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I wouldnt mind getting crit/mast xD

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i argued with friend yesterday

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that in m+ content there are only 2 necks

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and he didnt belive xD

waxen oyster
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heavy crit delve ring with mast is nice

solid pilot
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but didnt want to check

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last season i got great item from delve

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sacri dagger

waxen oyster
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sus energy drink seems the ritual knife of the season

solid pilot
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I wonder

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since I got this trinket

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will floodgate decide that I can have another one

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XD

solid pilot
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I might got any other delve besides the actually good ones

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I even got some weird gimmicky trinket

waxen oyster
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Yeah I forgot mechano core is rare

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I have it on 3 chars

solid pilot
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with minimazie and enlarge

waxen oyster
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and a warbound vet one

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Most of the direct damage trinkets suck

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from delves

solid pilot
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yup

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tho on OL turbodrain actually

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worked quite well

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but its a dot

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and up till now I used that one which gives on use either haste or crit

waxen oyster
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Yeah turbodrain is just

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mediocre

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instead of outright bad

solid pilot
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and this week's vault

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I had myth remnant

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since I couldnt get more than 1 slot in m+ last week ;/

low thicket
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its hard out here

solid pilot
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and neither are that good

waxen oyster
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sin is flexible

solid pilot
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thats actually good

low thicket
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I crafted neck with my 3rd spark

solid pilot
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that no stat is bad

mystic osprey
waxen oyster
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rik’s neck is bis with my current setup

solid pilot
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well call me a weirdo

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but ever since cata

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when they started to nerf rogue

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I started preping for other viable spec xD

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so atm I have 2 emb which are shared between

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sub and sin, and Outlaw wpn

waxen oyster
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warrior is most stable melee

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overall

solid pilot
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and I do like it a lot

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with warrior or Pally

waxen oyster
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lmao prot war rn is basically a dps

solid pilot
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but no time this exp

waxen oyster
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12% aoe nerf

solid pilot
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ye i saw

waxen oyster
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still do over 2m overalls

solid pilot
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and was loke

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like*

waxen oyster
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I only have 2p too kekw

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no free shield charge resets

solid pilot
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hmm

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you;'re tempting me to actually refresh my warrior xD

waxen oyster
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letting your alts collect delve tier is fun

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unt your poop alt getd 4p fist due to rng

solid pilot
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xD

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me in DF

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had pally alt

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got 4s before

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main

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in s2 i think

waxen oyster
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i could have but im just stingy

low thicket
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fury about to destroy my hand or keyboard

waxen oyster
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to send cata on non hero

solid pilot
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oh

waxen oyster
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was much worse

solid pilot
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my long lasting mythic raiding guild

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died before DF sadly

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tho we were struggling ever since end of mop

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and erasing 10m version of end game raids

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tho I do agree it was well

waxen oyster
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actually idk if bdk or prot war dam is higher

solid pilot
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weird some times XD

waxen oyster
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bdk skill ceiling is higher imo

solid pilot
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cant level dk

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I like the lore

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the fantasy etc

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always ended up at lvl 62-64

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and couldnt get past hellfire

waxen oyster
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they have the best tierset mog this season

solid pilot
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ye

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i know

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wonder when will brew come back from exile

waxen oyster
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equinox still plays it

solid pilot
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I wish blizz would do a balance like their SC team did all those years ago

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not in sc2

solid pilot
waxen oyster
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I still think bdk is the most consistent 5mans tank

solid pilot
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that dont give a fuck

waxen oyster
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due to mass grips

solid pilot
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he brings much

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to the party

waxen oyster
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and their entire design from the start has been being self sufficient

solid pilot
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yup

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they can heal in a pinch

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threat is never an issue, battle rez if needs arise

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tho healer's have hard time

waxen oyster
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Me when the mw panic coccoons me at 50%

solid pilot
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basicly if its puggers, the might lose a gcd

waxen oyster
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while i have a full runic bar

solid pilot
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😄

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reminds me of my 1st 10+

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in df as a pally tank

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barely any gear

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"lets go 10, ez pz quick key"

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in s1

waxen oyster
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ppal self healing is good

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but its still not bdk

solid pilot
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nokhund offensive

waxen oyster
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🤣

solid pilot
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I cried inside xD

waxen oyster
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its nice to heal pugs

wispy viper
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guys do we still run 2+2 until myth track

waxen oyster
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when your healer is kinda beans

waxen oyster
wispy viper
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i think i be simming wrong cuz its telling me some bogues rn

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kk cool thank you

solid pilot
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up to 18

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I could carry a healer

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and party, the heal is really good

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dont know now

waxen oyster
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ppal could carry bad groups way harder

solid pilot
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but back then, well I could be tank and heal in 1

waxen oyster
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than other tanks

solid pilot
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yup

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thats true

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but it could be exhausting

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depending on week and key

waxen oyster
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prot warr is just

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me get angy

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and hit things

solid pilot
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aye

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me smash

waxen oyster
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real hard

solid pilot
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hit very hard xD

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btw, shield block still amps shield slam ?

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dmg

waxen oyster
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No

solid pilot
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ah bugger

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it was fun

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especially on pvp

trail socket
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hey everybody, hope we're all having a good friday. Does assassination snapshot buffs for rupture? Like 2pc -> 4pc tier effect, can you snapshot rupture with full stacks, or is it dynamic?

waxen oyster
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still one of your biggest hitter

solid pilot
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yup

waxen oyster
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besides demolish

waxen oyster
trail socket
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lovely, the spec just became a lot more fun not having to worry about that, thank you 🙂

solid pilot
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i played a bit in s1

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i mean sin

waxen oyster
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You dont play around 4p

solid pilot
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and i actually didnt like dunno why

waxen oyster
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its just rando rng

solid pilot
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those bonuses from sets are actually

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dunno how to say it

waxen oyster
solid pilot
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just boring ?

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and kinda without any idea on what to do, lets give everyone simmilar shit

trail socket
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To each their own -- I hated snapshotting as any dot based class

solid pilot
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tho for outlaw it actually changed the playstyle

solid pilot
trail socket
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exactly the one I'm referencing lol

solid pilot
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i saw that beast on progress

waxen oyster
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The fuck is the point of a dot spec then

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so boring

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XD

solid pilot
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XD

waxen oyster
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snapshotting died after legion

solid pilot
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yup

waxen oyster
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Sin rogue nowadays your bleeds dont do shit

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ermm mop

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your bleeds exist to buff your envenoms

solid pilot
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your bleeds exist to buff your envenoms aaaand give energy

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oh and on low ilvl content to basicly

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erase any existance of living beings xD

waxen oyster
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Legion aff didnt really snapshot though

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you just malded when you didnt get harvester stacks

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to amp the entirety of your artifact tree

solid pilot
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it was funny

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how they created a mosnter

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and than tryed to contain it

waxen oyster
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I mean i called it

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from EN

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also called mark of the crane spiraling out of control

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on the legion beta

solid pilot
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that also did happen on live

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ye

waxen oyster
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I literall said

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"only thing stopping ww from being broken is blizz hates the class"

solid pilot
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funny how it takes sometimes 2-3 content patches

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to nerf a class

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when it comes to rogues, its almost instantly xD

waxen oyster
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Well they nerfed 2p 4p

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and then aurabuffed the spec

solid pilot
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yup

waxen oyster
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and gave it a real tierset

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then wonder why it was op

solid pilot
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ever since wotlk

waxen oyster
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turns out when you aura buff a spec 3-4x it might be good

solid pilot
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they had hard time trying to balance rogue as a whole

solid pilot
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took them some time tho

waxen oyster
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atp outlaw and sub get minimum 1-2 reworks per expac

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they have 0 clue whats going on with either

solid pilot
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in SL

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outlaw was actually fine

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and having healthy pop

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so was sub

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but asa up till 9.1.5 ?

blazing pumice
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that's cuz outlaw was strong in dps s3

solid pilot
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it was garbage

blazing pumice
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when they buffed

solid pilot
waxen oyster
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outlaw was good most of cn yes

solid pilot
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and mainly they added SND

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and conduits

waxen oyster
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arguably best spec since better cleave than sin

blazing pumice
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i think sin was better by the end of it

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for denathrius etc

waxen oyster
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maybe raw raw st

solid pilot
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sin was struggling early on

waxen oyster
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if you played venthyr

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denathrius you had the funny bug

solid pilot
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necro's were unplayable

waxen oyster
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where dead adds in p2 still counted to bonespike cp

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which was....

solid pilot
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and bonespike was buggy

blazing pumice
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ye that was tits

solid pilot
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and than came the rework of talents

waxen oyster
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yeah venthyr outlaw was not real

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until blunderbuss builds

solid pilot
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and in the same expansion outlaw got 1 major rework

waxen oyster
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of sepulcher

blazing pumice
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outlaw m+ problems are 99% blade flurry related

solid pilot
blazing pumice
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5 cap for no apparent reason

solid pilot
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not fun in the end

waxen oyster
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i actually kind of liked

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that tier bonus

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idk why

solid pilot
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I disliked it only coz of rogues that I met

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and well, werent either good nor bad

waxen oyster
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sub rogue tier bonus was

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what the fuck

solid pilot
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spiked higher

solid pilot
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its now a passive

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but yeah

waxen oyster
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nah

solid pilot
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that was funy

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well half of it

waxen oyster
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shadowtech is nowhere near as bad

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as rando yeeting shadowstrikes

solid pilot
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idd

waxen oyster
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0 consistency

solid pilot
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and to add up

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it also hited aoe

waxen oyster
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also if you procced weaponmaster on the proc shadowstrike

solid pilot
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i had times with sick opener

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and high dmg

waxen oyster
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pure comedy was just sin's tier bonus

solid pilot
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and times where it was normal opener 🤣

waxen oyster
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made nf relevant for 1 week

solid pilot
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dont even remind me that

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XD

waxen oyster
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mostly for pvp trolling

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because umm

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resto shaman had no poison dispel

solid pilot
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that was cancer

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and pvp forums

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were blazing

waxen oyster
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they do anytime rogue is good

solid pilot
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they fuck it up

waxen oyster
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Ever since sub got dance cdr, that spec has been a pvp boogeyman.

solid pilot
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well actually one of few classes

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that penetrate the armor

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  • shadow dmg
waxen oyster
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shadowy duel was kinda imba yeah

solid pilot
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yup

waxen oyster
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esp with the trolling of if you had a teammate that had big damage aoe

solid pilot
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basicly if rogue knew what he was doing

waxen oyster
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it hits inside the duel

solid pilot
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it basicly meant gg

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I think that was on yt

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in meme pvp shits

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back in cata

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there was a trinket in dragonsoul

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normal trinket one would say

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it just required a rogue to show its full potential, meaning 1shoting people in pvp full geared

waxen oyster
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yeah vial

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vial and daggers were a done deal

solid pilot
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yup

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it still was a fuckin bis trinket

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but just not 1shoting anymore

waxen oyster
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well

solid pilot
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but it was wotlk apr again

waxen oyster
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they toned down trinket heavily

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after legion

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in terms of power

solid pilot
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yup

waxen oyster
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nowadays most are just

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boring stat sticks

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some are tuned higher than others

solid pilot
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remember withered jim's trinket ?

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🤣

waxen oyster
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Yeah i got 2 on my rogue

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dps loss because haste

solid pilot
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I liked SL in terms of gameplay and how they handled kinda important things

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learning from legion with legendarys

waxen oyster
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People forgot the caster bis trinket legion s1

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was a wq one

solid pilot
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from azsuna was it

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or

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i dont remember the name

waxen oyster
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devilsaur shock baton

solid pilot
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ah

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that one

waxen oyster
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just titanforge it

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mythic ilvl

solid pilot
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if you were lucky

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but actually titanforgin and other versions of it

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was fun and bad for the game

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since it felt unrewarding in the end

waxen oyster
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i like how the season they removed it

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they added rng corruption procs

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on gear

solid pilot
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didnt play BFa

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but I did hear few things

waxen oyster
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some corruptions super overperformed

solid pilot
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sub getting nerfed s1

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corruptions being too good

waxen oyster
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and the gear could just randomly roll one

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from any content in the game

solid pilot
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I did few visions at the end

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of the patch

waxen oyster
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i mean corruptions are why

solid pilot
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dunno i played 2 weeks before

waxen oyster
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that boe scanner site exists

solid pilot
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they squished the lvl

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but I did saw some really

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weird shit XD

waxen oyster
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Yeah if you got a gushing wounds boe

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you were insta rich

solid pilot
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now they want that part of content in .5 patch

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tho the gear will be mostly champ//warbound

waxen oyster
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highly doubt they bring corruptions back

solid pilot
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nah

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they bring head enchants

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instead

waxen oyster
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imo the main thing corruption showed is how stupid classes could get

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with infinite haste

solid pilot
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infinite stats

waxen oyster
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like huge amounts of haste changes gameplay for most classes

solid pilot
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or loops always made for funny shits

waxen oyster
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the other 3 are.....wow damage number go bigger

solid pilot
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yup

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even those that dont hate haste

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but are not hot for it would benefit

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but warrior with shit tons of haste

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is just destroying that button

waxen oyster
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enhance

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that spec is already spammy

solid pilot
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yea i heard enhance actually

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got from their knees

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after legion

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and being more paper than cloth users

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I wonder for how long pally gonna be such a beast as it is now

mental thistle
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Hey guys, how good is Eye of Kezan these days? I mean, for raid and mythic+

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i saw in wow head that is B tier, but in bloodmallet say that is bis

solid pilot
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from what I saw people saying, kezan is not that good for m+ since it loses on downtime

spice surge
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When you have high stacks of it its really good

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When you dont its not good

solid pilot
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dont have one myself so cant say anything other what people wrote here

spice surge
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So in a fight that is long its good, if you dont leave combat much or for only short periods of time its good in m+

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If the fight is short or you leave combat/die a lot in m+ its really bad

mental thistle
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got it, thx

bronze needle
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Mugzee caustic spatter on bruisers?

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I was seeing it get applied through the goals. Not sure why

balmy condor
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if they're within 12y of the boss yeah

bronze needle
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Shouldn't goals block?

balmy condor
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idk, I guess

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but they don't

bronze needle
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It might be the like the ignite trick that RTWF was doing with fire mages where reapplying caustic spatter works

balmy condor
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I mean the rogues did it too

bronze needle
#

It was inconsistent for me today

#

Trying to figure out why

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On pull

balmy condor
#

cause the positioning is tight

bronze needle
#

Weird

balmy condor
#

I mean caustic's range is 12y

#

it's big but it's not insane

#

if the boss is off by just a little or someone didn't place the gaol exactly close enough

#

the add is just not in range

#

same thing with rik barrels

#

is what it is

round cypress
#

Hi all, just to be sure that I'm not crazy, the current Xalatath affix break stealth right ?

solid pilot
#

yes

polar rampart
#

it would be nice if it didn't though, that would be too hard tho

timid haven
#

Is there a best m+ comp for us?

mystic osprey
#

!log

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

mystic osprey
#

!logs

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

mystic osprey
#

🖕

spice spire
#

Just post ur log

#

We manually thread

mystic osprey
#

ahh

cerulean walrus
#

Bro was flipping off the bot

spice spire
#

Real tbh

mystic osprey
mystic osprey
timid haven
#

Is there a best comp for us in keys?

blazing pumice
#

no

#

unless you mean classes that can simp for you

runic hinge
#

prot for shout, enhance for WF and to carry your shit ST, monk for touch, priest to give you pi for fun

blazing pumice
#

i didn't want to commit to anything, not sure if pi is better than motw

balmy condor
mystic osprey
runic hinge
#

Probably motw is better. Pi kinda not amazing

balmy condor
#

motw is 100% better

#

pi is shit lmao

blazing pumice
#

is monk touch better than dh?

balmy condor
#

minorly yes

#

kind depends on build though

cerulean walrus
#

Bleeds are physical damage SMILERS

balmy condor
#

like if you're full on spatterin

#

then probably equalish

runic hinge
#

yeah im playing bleed

balmy condor
#

if you're bleedin then monk is 100% better

runic hinge
#

is all melee bad this season in any dungeons? can't think it's too late

blazing pumice
#

rookery

runic hinge
#

yeah that second boss is a bitch

blazing pumice
#

it's a little bit cancer in top as well

runic hinge
#

feels like a 0 uptime boss

mystic osprey
#

first boss

#

oh god

cerulean nest
#

i've been playing rogue a long time. and I will truly in my heart of hearts never understand people's inability to simply stand in a shroud and walk forward

#

it baffles and confounds me to my core

runic hinge
spice spire
#

Silence spriest main

runic hinge
#

You should be sleeping

drifting cloud
runic hinge
drifting cloud
solid pilot
#

XD

runic hinge
timid haven
#

Bleed build viable past 12s?

balmy condor
#

yes

timid haven
#

nice ty

#

im gonna try it

patent gust
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fossil sand
#

why do people play bleed build in 12's, just curious im playing hybrid w/ TTK atm

soft shale
#

they like going ehehe when they use shiv and everything explodes

blazing pumice
#

hybrid build with ttk is kinda cringe atm

old lily
#

is there a "correct" rotation to use to more easily stack kings bane (m+ spec)

#

i feel like i get poor value on KB sometimes

balmy condor
#

90% of your kb stacks come from auto attacks

#

only other thing that affects it is having the envenom buff up cause more poisons

#

but like envenom buff + auto attack = kb

#

there's not much else there

old lily
#

alright then

balmy condor
#

other thing to note is that deathmark is an insane buff to kingsbane

#

so if some kingsbanes look good, it's probably the ones in deathmark

old lily
#

because of the double bleeds right

balmy condor
#

the off-deathmark kingsbanes are pretty dogshit terrible

#

I mean double bleeds, double poisons

#

stacks twice as fast, more lethal dose stacks means more damage

old lily
#

cheers!

solid pilot
#

I gave up on setting plater

#

Nothing was looking as I wanted

heady drum
#

tips on figuring out what sim options i put in to figure out what passive trinket i want in m+?

#

patch 4t 40 sec or something?

balmy condor
#

Dungeonslice

heady drum
#

kk ty

warm vortex
#

A wet noodle

#

Just slappin em with your slightly poisonous wet noodle

subtle tundra
#

MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

balmy condor
golden loom
#

Meooow

grand trail
#

I'm ready for KB buff

#

Kb itself feel so weak

subtle tundra
#

no thanks

grand trail
#

It's like pressing air

jolly vault
#

!up

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
#

Need week1 of df kingsbane

#

Df s3***

spice surge
#

Crimson tempest go brrrrrr

fading wigeon
#

guys whats dry shiving?

#

nvm found it

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
latent umbra
#

please anyone got a weakaura that plays sound when kingsbane is at 8 duration?

foggy torrent
#

For crafted gear, should I just always do crit/mastery for secondary stats? or what is the best way to determine

normal mist
foggy torrent
#

Yes

normal mist
#

CRIT Mastery and call it a day

foggy torrent
#

okay thanks ❤️

normal mist
#

Otherwise it's a simcity

red schooner
#

I just sent crit mastery due to being lazy

#

It'll be fine probably

dense cove
#

Any opinions on when to run bleed build vs hybrid build? Certain key threshold?

versed gulch
#

I'd add a caveat that if you're bad at calculating Kingsbane and you time it wrong or the target dies or the tank pulls it out of range, Bleed probably wins there too. But that's just feelycraft.

static glacier
#

it just depends on the dungeon more than anything else

#

floodgate for example is a bleed key imo

robust light
latent umbra
dense cove
#

Makes sense. When do you send shiv if bleed build? Just whenever big pack or mini boss?

versed gulch
#

Also, can we get a QOL change where if there isn't a Deathstalkers Mark up and Darkest Night isn't active Mutilate will apply it to the target?

#

It feels bad when your entire Hero tree is negated for potentially a minute plus of a fight due to a bug, slight mismanagement of a boss phase change, just screwing up.

royal lantern
#

its thematic

#

like parry

versed gulch
normal mist
#

Parry DN

royal lantern
#

swing them in my direction

normal mist
versed gulch
#

Also, missed opportunity that they didn't retune Fatebound to be the play during the gambling season.

#

Our tier bonus even gives a chance to cheat the odds and keep our winning streak going.

polar sinew
#

!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

void vortex
#

2 embelshments or ansension on dagger and 1 embelshment is better for m+

normal mist
#

!CRAFT

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are boot/wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" overall, but Blessed Weapon Grip + Dawnthread can be VERY VERY slightly better in m+

Always craft a dagger for at least an offhand. Put Ascencion or Blessed Weapon Grip on it. Additional Crafts should be Boots/Cape/Wrist/Belt for your second embellishment, after that whatever low item level slot is fine, necks can be good crafts.
If you have a myth track weapon in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

normal mist
polar sinew
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#
  • Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
  • Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
  • Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
copper pine
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

!cute

copper pine
#

How can i write a mouseover for rupture apply. So Mouseover rupture and if no target on mouseover it should take my current target

livid marlin
#

This is the thread will send x

#

The link seems about rude, but I literally typed in mouseover macros ahah😅

tired oyster
livid marlin
#

I think it was the person who posted the thread dissed themself, but now it looks like we’re getting dissed ahha

livid marlin
#

And u don’t need macros then , however if you play caustic splatter it’s abit tricky to keep on track of your mouse , I turned it off cause of that , but I am a noob so u might cope better x

analog field
amber brook
#

^ possible

timber meadow
#

why is mechano core listed as bis trinket on wowhead? i dont really use wowhead much but I noticed that and thought it was odd. there's so many better trinkets based on whysper's recent vid or bloodmallet or just simming myself

frigid niche
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
stuck knoll
timber meadow
#

I see, that makes sense - assume it was just sorta put up there initially and not updated

stuck knoll
#

and he probably just missed updating that

#

Becaus most of the other stuff I can see he's changed it

timber meadow
#

assuming people who it actually matters for can prob just tell that it's not right and sim themselves

stuck knoll
#

he just missed that 1 tab

static glacier
stuck knoll
#

Also what Mo said

timber meadow
#

but that doesn't really change anything

#

it's not possible to get it at an ilevel that makes it bis regardless of how good it is for its ilevel

static glacier
#

at 665 it's litterally the best passive trinket

image.png
#

compared to all others at same ilvl

timber meadow
#

correct

#

ig i can just copy paste my previous comment

static glacier
#

fwiw

#

whispyr HATES

#

bis lists etc

#

only does it bc guide site demands it

timber meadow
#

yeah that makes sense

static glacier
#

feel bad for him ngl

#

bro getting tilted on the daily

stuck knoll
#

bro spends all this time and effort providing information and tools for people to understand the gear better

#

and then is forced to make the most hated thing that undermines it all

spice surge
#

Also if youre saying mechano hero is unreasonable to get then myth track of dungeon trinkets are as well, since theyre actually harder to get

timber meadow
#

mechano core literally doesn't drop myhthic

#

its impossible not just unreaonsable

stuck knoll
#

it doesn't need to

static glacier
#

realistically speaking it only loses out to zee's (which is st only) eye (long fights only) and seaforium at myth ilvl

stuck knoll
#

when HC 665 competes with mythic trinkets

spice surge
#

Ofc, but it doesnt need to

static glacier
#

I think his tier ranking is fair

timber meadow
#

it is very good for its ilevel. It is not bis at its ilevel relative to myuthic trinkets you can get

static glacier
#

and I say this as a previous trinket guidewriter

timber meadow
#

thats all i was asking about

#

the question was answered, tbh i literally dont know what it is being argued at this poiknt

static glacier
#

also it's not listed as bis is it?

timber meadow
static glacier
#

bruh

#

conflicting info xddd

stuck knoll
static glacier
#

time to troll him again

timber meadow
#

i got thee answer

#

i was responding to the other people responding about other stuff

static glacier
#

dw man, Ill make him pop a gasket later

timber meadow
#

didn't mean to make a thing about it, was just curious

static glacier
#

dw man, you're good

timber meadow
#

like i literally base nothing off of wowhead anyway xD

static glacier
#

tbh with you I think bis lists are by far the most pointless part of the guides

#

rotation section are what matter

#

and undermine tips + builds are useful too

stuck knoll
#

It is funny I have managed to get mechano core to be a sim downgrade over equal ilvl trinkets (do not ask what those trinkets are they are a secret)

warm vortex
#

Yoyo

timber meadow
#

the only thing i use like bloodmallet for is that our loot council wants us to put "bis" for certain thigns which i really hate

warm vortex
#

how are all the assassins doing today

timber meadow
#

so i just wanan find some arbitrary source of info for whether something is bis

warm vortex
#

Bis is a myth

static glacier
#

you can just do that or droptimiser

warm vortex
#

All my homies sim

timber meadow
#

and like sims change

warm vortex
#

Also loot council is just

#

higher ups decide who gets what right

stuck knoll
#

I just droptimiser and if I don't see another item higher I slap a bis on it

spice surge
#

Everyones bis is eye of kezan if youre talking for progress on later bosses

timber meadow
spice surge
#

Because once the fights are like 7+ kezan starts stomping

timber meadow
#

you can say you wanna be on loot council and you'll prob be on it

#

but being on it sucks

stuck knoll
static glacier
#

stuff like rik downtime denies you being able to stack it

warm vortex
#

Fair i just use dkp

#

And idc what you say about it

#

It's not THAT bad

spice surge
stuck knoll
spice surge
#

But usually 5 or more minutes

#

Or if theres some execute value

warm vortex
stuck knoll
spice surge
#

You win some you lose some

stuck knoll
#

I can't find it now but I don't remember when the original Onyxia Wipe Animation came out

#

but I think the video might be older than you Ven

timber meadow
stuck knoll
#

Ye but it's actually not that many fights that long in the raid

#

like even sprocket is hardly over 5 minutes now

spice surge
#

Ye its only the last 2/3

#

But like, bandit p2 seems insanely free once you get there cleanly

stuck knoll
#

Ye

#

Bandit p1 is most of the fight

#

(Free me)

spice surge
#

How many pulls do you have

stuck knoll
#

uhh

#

40-50ish

#

We have gotten past the 3rd attendants like twice

warm vortex
#

Hope this isn't your mugzee btw

#

Or hope your mugzee won't be like this

stuck knoll
#

nvm

#

we have 60 pulls

warm vortex
#

Actually

spice surge
#

ic ic, we are at 74

warm vortex
#

have you seen how stupidly high some chinese guilds have got on mugzee rn

spice surge
#

So kill is possible next raid, but probably not

warm vortex
#

I remember last season i was just looking at queen kills

stuck knoll
#

Ye

warm vortex
#

And on guild had 1000+ wip[es

stuck knoll
#

The hope is we kill this week

#

would be big

warm vortex
#

First p3 was like 400

stuck knoll
#

but idk we played kinda meh on Thursday tbh

spice surge
#

A lot of chinese guilds tend to have insanely high pull counts, not sure why

warm vortex
stuck knoll
#

Where's the Tindral one

#

with like 1.6k pulls

timber meadow
#

that was craazy

warm vortex
#

Lmao what

#

Tbh that doesn't surprise me

timber meadow
#

but also that was such a bad tier i hope they never make last two bosses that hard again just not enjoyable at all

warm vortex
#

I'm still so salty i didn't time the FG yesterday

#

Fucking killing the boss and missing like 0.3% or smth

#

Btw we have some rando inour guild called weedman

#

Hes a resto druid and his note is just

#

20g per 1g of regrowth

teal ruin
#

Guys how to maintain energy on long raid bosses? And also do u use Fan of knives? If yes, why?

static glacier
#

its barely better than seaforium

#

if you have seaforium chill

#

also seaforium is reliable

#

that trink is more rng

ebon geyser
#

hello friends is the playstyle on rogue the same as season 1 ?

static glacier
#

pretty similar ye

#

only changes are listed in the newest pins

#

we take VV now

slate crown
# warm vortex

is this saying that their pulls.... are 3.6 * 10^11???? huh?

spice surge
prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

left abyss
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
#

also guys am i dreaming?

#

First try, timed 12 today

#

:D

slate crown
warm vortex
#

Failedl ike 4 or 5 12 rooks the other day and had a good tank

coral ibex
#

Gm

mental thistle
#

abt the house of cards, how should i use it ? every 1.5m even i dont have deathmark or should i delayed and use with deathmark ?

coral ibex
#

you need to use it 1s after you press DM

#

so it covers the end of kb

devout fiber
#

in the bleed build for M+

image.png
#

do u not got Kingsbane?

coral ibex
#

kingsbane isn't a bleed

warm vortex
#

It's like i never left assa

#

2 highest dps are DoTs

devout fiber
solid pilot
#

6 or 7th flood

#

Trinket drops

spice surge
#

But otherwise ye

devout fiber
coral ibex
warm vortex
#

Hey newj

coral ibex
#

you play it for mega AOE

warm vortex
#

Just fixing your message

spice surge
#

Bleed is practically the same at everything as hybrid

warm vortex
#

You don't play assa at all for m+ st

solid pilot
#

Hunter wins pepehands

warm vortex
#

Speaking of hunter wins

coral ibex
#

well you could play hybrid with ttk for some reason

warm vortex
warm vortex
coral ibex
#

but bleed build mega cranks even up to 11's for me

spice surge
#

Bleed is better at like 2-6 targets, slightly worse on like 10+ targets and roughly the same at other target counts (including ST)

warm vortex
#

I just dropped DB and SBS for DS and TTK

coral ibex
#

i dropped db and sbs for kingsbane and iron wire

#

xdddddd

solid pilot
warm vortex
#

1

coral ibex
#

ive seen pacemaker 5 times now

#

"sorry i need"

#

every time

warm vortex
#

Tbf i immediatly had to do 24 ToPs for a ring

#

But ignore that

solid pilot
#

🥲

#

I remember geting my phial on SL s1

devout fiber
solid pilot
#

Week before S2 starter

coral ibex
#

probably higher keys

#

idk

#

havent felt a need to change up to 11's so far

spice surge
warm vortex
coral ibex
#

im not much of an io pusher tho

warm vortex
#

Isn't bleed behind

#

Or nah

spice surge
#

Not really no

solid pilot
#

And it didnt drop for me, whole stack xD

coral ibex
#

i mostly like it because all my bleeds are doing omega damage while the tank holds adds in literally every aoe imaginable

runic hinge
solid pilot
#

Well atleast i got hang of how to play

coral ibex
#

so im doing big dam even if im not actively hitting

warm vortex
#

If you wanna drop for KB why not just run hybrid

coral ibex
#

anecdotally i believe hybrid is less damage in the keys i do

spice surge
#

Demisemaxxing Prayge

coral ibex
#

and i just like kb as a button

#

i dont do any m+ content where one talent point is making a difference in timing vs not

#

nor do most!

warm vortex
#

Don't talk to me or my son ever again

image.png
warm vortex
spice surge
#

I prefer bleed too, i think people just havent tried it because it seems bad

warm vortex
#

IB instead of CS

coral ibex
#

and like

spice surge
#

But it turns out that after some extra APL changes its actually alright

coral ibex
#

arterial is cool

#

aoe shiv is cool

#

i like that

warm vortex
#

Y'know what elsei s cool

#

Bm

#

:D

coral ibex
#

yea i think pooping is cool too

#

big shits OP

warm vortex
#

True actually

#

Laxatives should be banned in Comp imo

#

Feels kinda unfair

coral ibex
#

there was a splits helper for liquid back in amirdrassil

#

called legitpoopoo

runic hinge
#

AP is a great feeling plus it makes your shiv hit stuff super far away

coral ibex
#

never forget

warm vortex
#

Only 12s i need are FG, CB and priory

#

Then i get resiliant keys pogger

haughty flicker
errant heath
#

Is there a way to submit log reviews? If so how?

runic hinge
#

Ping quake and make him look at it

warm vortex
#

Oh

#

nvm

#

Tony made the joke already

spice spire
#

Let me sleep wtf

runic hinge
#

I am already awake. Why not you

errant heath
#

Not sure if it’s a joke or I should actually message @spice spire

spice spire
#

Just post log