assassination

[dapper cradle]

[balmy condor]

it's likely, I use default bars I haven't needed to make stance macros in legit like a decade

[onyx coyote]

Question about talent build changes. Wowanalyzer is telling my raid i'm playing wrong because i no longer use improved garrotte. We were supposed to change to venomous wounds instead right?

[earnest heron]

google seems to think bartender offers stealth bar, maybe its a setting? idk. sounds like its bar 1 that changes by default though

[coral ibex]

yes

[balmy condor]

wowanalyzer sucks

[midnight mist]

[coral ibex]

you should ask your raid if they use hekili

[runic hinge]

Thank you fellow assa main

[midnight mist]

np cuh

[onyx coyote]

i'm grey parsing in heroic cuase i dont have 4 set yet. So they ran me through it

[haughty flicker]

uh

[balmy condor]

yeh tell them it isn't updated

[coral ibex]

i mean that's not why you grey parsed

[balmy condor]

and it's very wrong for anything other than the raw basics

[haughty flicker]

im also willing to bet thats not why you grey parsed

[coral ibex]

whats your ilvl

[haughty flicker]

but yeah wowanalyzer is not maintained for a lot of specs, sin included

[runic hinge]

Some of them I think it would help

[haughty flicker]

so they should probably be aware of that

[onyx coyote]

647 with priory champ and mechano from delve heroic

[dapper cradle]

The only reason I’m grey parsing is because I’m not 678 yet

[winged sun]

thats not what i wrote

[onyx coyote]

2 set of last tyear 3 set of this tier

[winged sun]

???????????

[onyx coyote]

but it was on bandit where i'm changing a lot

[winged sun]

see

get fucked bozo

[earnest heron]

bandit is pure chaos

[winged sun]

SEND LOG SEND THIS SEND THAT

[dapper cradle]

[gusty mirage]

Obviously my request to type in less lines went ignored

[onyx coyote]

i'm still learning the fight its prog btw

[winged sun]

@runic hinge get bozoed

[gusty mirage]

I don’t particularly enjoy being ignored

[iron vapor]

Stop changing. Stop it.

Just tunnel the boss.

The adds don't live long enough for your damage to ramp.

[vivid mulch]

WA for showing if stealthed or not infront of screen?

[onyx coyote]

i did 1.4 mil on bandit

[earnest heron]

wa like that is very easy to make tbh

[onyx coyote]

and it was a 9% parse

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor you know what would be a really cool feature instead of redesigning the discord UI 801238123128 times? If they allowed us to slowmode specific users instead of an entire channel

[vivid mulch]

I've never made WA's

Im a newgen to wow so

[onyx coyote]

i know you all say to tunnel but then i get told i'm not doing mechanics

[fallow canopy]

Surely something of the sort is on wago

[humble verge]

man

finally got pacemaker

[humble verge]

but i have energy drink

[iron vapor]

Show them how little damage you do to the adds, get them to check their meters.

[coral ibex]

i wont steal ur gold i promise

[iron vapor]

Because I guarantee you're doing next to nothing.

[balmy condor]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[balmy condor]

that command works with !barrel, !rik, and !adds

go wild

[coral ibex]

thank you king

[haughty flicker]

tldr swap to sub

[onyx coyote]

what is a good dps amount for bandit? is 1.4 mil quite bad?

with how i was having to swap

[balmy condor]

depends on your gear I guess

but 1.4 in this season

seems pretty bad

[iron vapor]

If you don't swap you'll do lots more

[onyx coyote]

i'm not 4 set yet

[coral ibex]

i mean based on the parse, 91% of assa rogues who killed it did more damage

[iron vapor]

4 set doesn't really do that much

[balmy condor]

respectfully we were doing 1.8-1.9 last raid

[coral ibex]

you really need item level more than anything atm

[fallow canopy]

its still pretty low :c

[onyx coyote]

was doing higher on the pure st bosses

[balmy condor]

you're like blue-purple parsing damage from last raid

that's not a tier set issue

[coral ibex]

how was your sprocket

[balmy condor]

that's either piss shit ilvl

or bad rotation

[coral ibex]

that's a pure ST fight

[south prawn]

guys do we vanish last 12 seconds of kb/dm for MA?

[coral ibex]

if you did poorly on sprocket you have rotation issues for sure

[balmy condor]

in m+ sure yeah

only on bosses though

[fallow canopy]

he mentioned early 647ilvl, so I think its a rotation issue

[iron vapor]

So on my last kill I did 1.97, which was a 59% parse.

[balmy condor]

vanish is aoe tool first and formost

[balmy condor]

yeah okay doomed

[runic hinge]

You got me. I got ksh already this season so I must be m+ gamer.

[south prawn]

so main prio is to spread bleeds in aoe ye?

[onyx coyote]

normal spocket i'm purple but i've only run it twice on heroic and am gray on heroic

[iron vapor]

But I did not switch targets ONCE, pure tunnel, just maintaining the rotation and doing my best to avoid mechanics

[haughty flicker]

me using vanish at the end of packs to cheese sudden demise on details

[little tulip]

get caustic spatter up after two garrote two rupture and start cleaving

don't gonga spread bleeds

[coral ibex]

for reference, and granted i have 16 ilvl on you which matters a lot, i did 900k more dps than you

[south prawn]

i know the rotation im just curious about MA optimization

[iron vapor]

The good/well geared players aren't clearing normal... That's probs why

[coral ibex]

on bandito

[little tulip]

but also un-garroted targets and wanna throw an envenom why not as a treat

[onyx coyote]

sprocket though when she pushes back we run in conveyor in middle so all my stuff falls off

[haughty flicker]

just shadowstep to the boss

[severe sparrow]

i havent raided on rogue in 2 weeks bc i had to emergency heal i wanna know what my numbers are now cuz i added like 12 ilvl

[iron vapor]

What!? Why?!

[gusty mirage]

Sounds like a classic case of getting griefed by your strat/RL

[unborn wharf]

i thought how it went down with 2 vanish charges was that 1 was linked with the deathmark set and 1 was basically just held for chaining like 1 or 2 additional times in the dungeon but we basically just wanna be vanishing for aoe spreads/boss damage deathmark?

[iron vapor]

Yeah, if you're not stabbing the boss constantly you're never gonna parse well. Sprocket should be close to 100% uptime.

[cedar compass]

hey guys, when do you use house of cards? rip on cooldown or wait for deathmark? sorry if asked before, tried finding it

[fallow canopy]

always with dm

[iron vapor]

Macro it to death mark

[onyx coyote]

are we not even supposed to use caustic really? i find that it doesnt hit half the things

when we are on bandit

[iron vapor]

It's not on the GCD so just add it in to the macro

[cedar compass]

thanks!

[shell crater]

Spatter really doesn’t seem to do much to the gallywix adds

It doesn’t reach I don’t think 😦

[balmy condor]

yes

[iron vapor]

I did 20mil with caustic spatter on the last bandit kill. Probably not worth it.

[thorn thorn]

[hidden bay]

does that mean i should dot every barrel on rik?

[haughty flicker]

yes

[onyx coyote]

and we never clera the witnesses anymore right?

[severe sparrow]

the boss should probably be on an add on bandit, no?

[haughty flicker]

play double vanish ic on rik

[fallow canopy]

[severe sparrow]

you arent spattering 2 adds at a time tho no

[onyx coyote]

single targt i ment

[balmy condor]

I'm going to cut your face off and wear it as a mask

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[hidden bay]

i was so nice to not ping you!

[iron vapor]

Single target we don't CTW anymore. Maths don't math for it.

3 targets or more, spit on that thang.

[thorn thorn]

[soft shale]

remember to throw knife to the ones far away to send a message

that 12k dot from deadly

[severe sparrow]

raiding but replace mut with throw knife

[onyx coyote]

is there any good wy to shorten the opener for mugzee? I cnnot finish my opener in the time before the gaol happens.

[balmy condor]

you don't go into gaol

[soft shale]

dont go inside the gaol

[balmy condor]

you stay out

[iron vapor]

Start blue side

But if you're starting brown side you don't go into jail anyway

[balmy condor]

I don't think you can convince groups to just start blue lmao

[iron vapor]

Never switch. Just tunnel.

[shell crater]

If your raid leader tries to assign you to gaol tell em to kick rocks and suck eggs 🙂

[little tulip]

was popping mines on sprocket i mean it was okay

[iron vapor]

I dunno, we tried it both ways and starting blue side we had one less gaol to deal with

I do mines too, but only ever the one right next to the boss, if the tank has him positioned right you can stay in melee range and pop the mine.

[little tulip]

with caustic changes at least you can kill bikes/barrels/yeens by doing a bit of footwork

[balmy condor]

no you cant

[coral ibex]

i'm gonna be so sad on mugzee i can feel it

[iron vapor]

Caustic comes off boss

[little tulip]

but

[iron vapor]

Not up to you where it goes

[balmy condor]

the caustic changes do nothing on rik

[little tulip]

i thought it checked player unit circle for applying caustic to targets too

[balmy condor]

yeah but it has to overlap with the boss hitbox

[haughty flicker]

they also still have to be within boss hitbox

[coral ibex]

anyone know if your positioning with the new caustic change affects cleaving into the gaols

or is it just off the boss

i have been griefing heroic pugs trying to figure it out

[shell crater]

Any tips on improving consistency? I’ll do a 93 on one boss and then literally do a 50 on another boss. It’s infuriating

[balmy condor]

lemme explain this again with bad MS paint

[iron vapor]

We put the boss in between the gaols, I get 'ok' spatter damage

[coral ibex]

last 2 attempts ive gotten literally 0 spatter damage with the boss between the gaols

[iron vapor]

Buuuut, sometimes the tank fucks up and we wipe

[coral ibex]

regardless of my positioning relative to the gaols

[haughty flicker]

more whispyr art pog

[balmy condor]

red dot is gallywix, brown dot is you at max melee range

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[balmy condor]

gallywix has giga range right?

cause he's in the hole

so he's got a huge distance till max melee

[coral ibex]

i wish that were me

sorry continue king

[balmy condor]

hole

okay

[iron vapor]

25 mil spatter on our last kill

[balmy condor]

so now

[severe sparrow]

Ty for drawing the hole

[haughty flicker]

i should call her

[coral ibex]

i understand the caustic graphic, i'm asking specifically about gaol interaction

[balmy condor]

spatter part 1 is 12y from the center of the boss

not you

[coral ibex]

oh ok

sorry

got lost the sauce

[balmy condor]

so caustic part 1

is that green circle

doesn't hit adds

that was the problem

and why caustic got changed

so now the change, caustic part 2

I'm gonna move the brown dot closer to get a better scale

caustic part 2 is 12 yards from your center, but it has to overlap with the max range of the boss

[severe sparrow]

We kind of look like a spider

[burnt star]

Or a car

[balmy condor]

lets say blue circle is the max range where you can hit gallywix

[haughty flicker]

i think its a little horse

[burnt star]

Alsona rabbit

[little tulip]

neigh

[balmy condor]

red circle is the 12y from you

[hearty reef]

Is this a rorschach test?

[spare kayak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

so caustic will hit

this area

makes sense so far?

[hidden bay]

that doesnt make sense at all

can you make a video?

[dapper halo]

lol i got seaforium charge on first try

[haughty flicker]

[little tulip]

sold 2 for 300k so far

[iron vapor]

I think I would understand it better with different colours

[balmy condor]

mostly asking @little tulip for this

[little tulip]

dh hit a 99 parse

[haughty flicker]

WOLLMART PAY ATTENTION

[burnt star]

Real life adaptation video

[balmy condor]

okay so now we do the same thing but for rik instead of gallywix

[runic hinge]

Wollmart doesn’t have an attention span

He is an enigma

[balmy condor]

rik has tiny hitbox

[haughty flicker]

its average

[little tulip]

yeah it tracks thanks, in keys it's good to recall where i'm standing to maximize caustic

[balmy condor]

this is rik hitbox lets say

but that's like 9-10 yards

[little tulip]

pre pop sprint on him and sprocket to get clean uptime

[balmy condor]

so the caustic around rik actually is already like this

[coral ibex]

you drew some beautiful abstract titties

thank you

[balmy condor]

and so we can add the player range check back in the same we did before

but you'll already see

caustic part 2, the part they added

is this area

[severe sparrow]

Caustic don't hit behind the booty

[balmy condor]

which is already inside the original caustic area

so it does nothing

[little tulip]

yea its not the full player circle it's only the intersection

[severe sparrow]

Our booty

[little tulip]

so you do hard swap unless it's a very cute and cleavable barrel

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna scream

[haughty flicker]

hardswap to sub

[hearty reef]

Richard Reverberation

[haughty flicker]

dick vibrations

[iron vapor]

So what about CS from the barrels?

[little tulip]

but https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1355277457187668078/image.png?ex=67e857fd&is=67e7067d&hm=33b8616c595ccb97ae46cc1dd4faee8acab5119474ea10a0632fc296f4c1d5f3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=822&height=571

[severe sparrow]

Woll might be colorblind maybe you should start again using pattern fill

[runic hinge]

And blizzard said they cleaned up their act and was PC now

[hidden bay]

valid

[haughty flicker]

the sad part is it was actually a good explanation using visual aids

wasted

[balmy condor]

this would be caustic off boss, squares obviously being barrels

if you caustic off barrels instead

idk

pick one of them

the bottom right maybe

[iron vapor]

I was joking

Can you even get caustic from the barrels? Is there time?

Who knows. Someone else's problem

[balmy condor]

you would get this

barrels last 15 seconds

you could caustic

but you would probably need to pool cp for it

and it doesn't help

[iron vapor]

They don't last 15 seconds tho do they?

I mean... They could

[haughty flicker]

if they're whats wiping your guild then yes

[iron vapor]

It they shouldn't

[haughty flicker]

and thats kind of the whole reason this comment comes up in the first place

[burnt star]

The one that dont matter for this discussion does last long

U know the single one

[balmy condor]

I mean if they die before the 15 seconds then we don't need to talk about it

cause you don't wipe

[haughty flicker]

if they didnt last long enough to consider swapping to then nobody would be talking about it

[balmy condor]

they explode after 15 seconds

which is what wipes groups

which is why people want to swap

which is why this convo is happening 27x a day

[haughty flicker]

but yeah normally the one that lives is out of caustic range of anything else anyway

time to vanish to mark barrel

in big envenoms

[burnt star]

Time to play outlaw

Oh wait

Dont!

[haughty flicker]

no we hardswap sub here

no outlaw allowed

[balmy condor]

ye, sub is the swap

[burnt star]

U plan your cd around them anyways. And u kill them so fast your cd are still up.for the single 1

[iron vapor]

No sub. No swapping.

[haughty flicker]

time to play fatebound for big envenoms on single barrels

[runic hinge]

Gotta hope for that double tails flip

[iron vapor]

Big brain play.

BuT iF it sToPs a WiPe

[haughty flicker]

wait for tails to flip, stop dps, cb barrels for another tails then vanish for two more tails

dead barrel

ez

[runic hinge]

I love when the three melee barrels get cleaved down instantly and then the 4th barrel in Narnia is full hp with 8 dozen warlock pets still hitting the boss

[little tulip]

oh okay, i see the green circle around the boss is included for cleave

[iron vapor]

Rogue fault for not switching

[little tulip]

so it rewards good tank movement if im understanding this correctly

[haughty flicker]

the change to caustic basically only matters on huge bosses that dont move anyway

[iron vapor]

I believe that is the tag line for world of warcraft.

[haughty flicker]

normally bosses with hitboxes that big are ones off the edge of the arena/in a middle hole

[iron vapor]

'rewards good tank movement'

[little tulip]

well

gatekeeper

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[coral ibex]

if you were a team player you would press sprint and immediately go to the spread barrel

[balmy condor]

melee needs to swap

we will be hearing no arguments

[spice spire]

[haughty flicker]

sprint is on cd from running out to kidney the guy who got mced

[balmy condor]

the green circle around the boss is the original caustic yeah

[low thicket]

[balmy condor]

blurrier please

[low thicket]

Ok

[runic hinge]

Here’s the thing, I’m not a team player. I’m a rogue player

[low thicket]

Just going stealth

[tired girder]

do we still just not really care about thistle tea and just send all mutilates and let the auto use happen? or always save 1 for end 6s of cd windows?

[runic hinge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tired girder]

sooo hold for shiv timings?

[little tulip]

it's bad in high keys

you'll be using kingsbane on a trashpack and wish you had the tea for boss dm/kb combo

[midnight mist]

whispor, does my positioning matters on mugzee in regard to this, to hit the adds inside the jail

[runic hinge]

Make the macro and take tea off your bar

[sudden brook]

It's based on the tanks positioning

[tired girder]

tea gets used automatically when you're low energy

which happens about 1 min into a ST fight lol

[sudden brook]

Just turn damage numbers on, and tell your tanks you aren't able to hit both

[dreamy rover]

dude i need to learn like today how to play assassination in raids, where do i start besides wowhead guide

[runic hinge]

Right and that’s good. Most of the value of tea is in the energy

[dreamy rover]

how do i do this

[royal lantern]

read the guide and hit a dummy?

[dreamy rover]

is that all

[tired girder]

ya so my question was do just spam away and let tea just be used auto matically, or do i make sure to hold tea for my windows

[runic hinge]

Yes

[royal lantern]

what else can you do lol

[runic hinge]

Spam away make macro

[tired girder]

ahk

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

your windows at 1min and 2min

tea has 1min cd

you use a charge togheter with your CDs on pull if its macrod with shiv

[dreamy rover]

2 charges of tea during opener w/ kingsbane?

help me out dude

[royal lantern]

you ALWAYS have a tea for windows

[little tulip]

it's okay if you run out of teas but letting envenom buff during kingsbane is bad

[tired girder]

ya its a 1 min cd so if you use it in your first cds it'll be up again

[little tulip]

so if u can rupture some trash etc

[dreamy rover]

but 2 charges?

[balmy condor]

tldr no

[tired girder]

feels like a waste to use 2 teas during your opener cause you'll max out on energy probs

[balmy condor]

mugzee ain't fat enough

[tired girder]

but who knows

[dreamy rover]

jaoil

[runic hinge]

You’re maxed energy in dm anyways

[midnight mist]

ye make sense

[dreamy rover]

epic jaoil monment

[runic hinge]

And you wanna get a charge rolling

[midnight mist]

i wasnt sure

[balmy condor]

the whole self-positioning thing only works when the melee range of a boss is giga

[little tulip]

i haven't used tea with dm/kb for a while and just send tempered potion and call it even

[balmy condor]

so like your bloodbound horror, rashanan, gallywix

type things

[little tulip]

shift z > ctrl z > t

[dreamy rover]

whispyr do i use

WHISPYR

[midnight mist]

are you going into jails, idk how the jail assign works, as if you kinda have to cause number of people or not, i was thinking of asking to keep rogues outside for the cleave

[balmy condor]

whispyr do I use whispyr?

[dreamy rover]

do i use 2 charges of tea during opener

[midnight mist]

like im going on 2nd and third set

[balmy condor]

do not use me

yes

you macro tea and shiv together

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[royal lantern]

make me stop

[dreamy rover]

dang doesnt feel worth

[dreamy rover]

yhea thats how i've been doing it

[balmy condor]

yeah

you macro and then ignore tea

[warm vortex]

Nah Whispyr is bis

[balmy condor]

do not track do not energy manage

just spam away

[warm vortex]

Like yknow those monkeys that brann summons

THat;s what whispyr does

[balmy condor]

real

[warm vortex]

Just replace the bannanas with monsters

He just jumps around screaming, throwing monsters everywhere

[dreamy rover]

thank you very much whispyr for always being active and answering our dumbass questions

thanks

[sudden brook]

I'm doing p2 jail

But rogue doesn't even do that much damage to the adds anyway

[thorn thorn]

But my parses, misusing tea loses 10% damage and costs me my 100

[sudden brook]

Like it's decent but like, it's not a lot lol

[midnight mist]

i mean im doing z dps going in but

thats kinda what i meant

why not just stay out and cleave 2 adds instead of doing 0 damage on one

[balmy condor]

I was considering a mini fridge but my dad rolled his eyes

So I don’t think I’m doing a mini fridge

[midnight mist]

but idk if that cause issues with assign, will ask raid leader

[sudden brook]

Cuz eventually everybody has to go in

[warm vortex]

Monster reveal???

[little tulip]

purple monster ?_?

[warm vortex]

Can't just be here with your monster out whispyr...

[balmy condor]

grape my beloved

[royal lantern]

how many times did you piss out kidneystones btw

[spice spire]

Where are your rehabs brother

[dreamy rover]

mini fridge is HUGE, insane value

[balmy condor]

0, they're all sugar free

[spice spire]

Think of the electrolytes king

[balmy condor]

rehabs have sugar

[little tulip]

we got mango madness and america fruit punch here

[spice spire]

3-4g

[little tulip]

but rehabs are delicious, green tea 😦

[thorn thorn]

Enough to make his own limestone countertop

[spice spire]

Kidney stones are not from sugar. It’s calcium intake + dehydration

[haughty flicker]

yeah but when you drink 30 a day that adds up

[balmy condor]

yeh I guess that's fine

[warm vortex]

God i still have never drunk a monster

[spice spire]

Dog who is drinking 30 a day

[balmy condor]

fuck you what are you, some health worker?

[dreamy rover]

you said kidney shot?

[warm vortex]

And whispyrs crippling addiction makes me curiou

Can't belive they named an organ after a rogue ability

Shocking

[haughty flicker]

insert gif of whispyr shotgunning a monster

[warm vortex]

Iconic even

[thorn thorn]

You gotta be an addict to be a guide writer

[dreamy rover]

insane

[spice spire]

Yes

[thorn thorn]

How else do you deal with the idiots

[dreamy rover]

they put in a wow skill in human body

crazy

[spice spire]

Also someone who produces kidney stones

[balmy condor]

oh ok

[severe sparrow]

Hey there's protein kidney stones too aren't there?

Protein shake but make it with monster

[warm vortex]

Monster shake

[balmy condor]

average medium sized panera charged lemonade

[warm vortex]

or even

Monter

[spice spire]

Learned that calcium intake has a large cause of it when I was taking like 3g of calcium a day

[spice spire]

They used to have this

[little tulip]

im just saying chug jug

[haughty flicker]

just drink water

[little tulip]

also french press only appears in 1 liter size which is hella downers 😦

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/haiti-president-hydrohomies-water-un-gif-1394585770745639078

[severe sparrow]

I think they still do? I feel like there's a single gas station by me with it still 🤔

[balmy condor]

I don't think I'm at risk of calcium turning into kidney stones considering the only suplements I take are a multi-vitamin and potassium

and I don't even know where calcium comes from

[warm vortex]

People who say "i don't like the taste of water" are

Just

[severe meadow]

I got 4 kidney stones last year when I was drinking 1-2 redbulls a day, changed that diet quickly

[warm vortex]

Gross

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

Like

[severe sparrow]

You sound like my husband

[warm vortex]

Genuine reaction when someone tells me that

[balmy condor]

none of my monster zeros even list calcium anywhere

think I'm good

[little tulip]

yea every day red bull sounds bad that's not for vitamins

[dreamy rover]

Am i done for? did 6+ redbulls a day for quite a while

[little tulip]

thats cause u caffeine enjoyer

[severe meadow]

Brother is your heart okay

[warm vortex]

Ok

thoughts on raw dogging marmite

[dreamy rover]

yes im rehabilitated

[warm vortex]

Like just taking spoonfulls out of ti

[dreamy rover]

dont drink redbull anymore

[spice spire]

It’s the lack of hydration that’s usually the culprit

[warm vortex]

And washing it down with fanta or smth

[spice spire]

For me it was both

Drink water and ur good

Doesn’t matter

[balmy condor]

oh so just drink another monster

gotcha

[severe sparrow]

Marmite and fanta?

[thorn thorn]

How is your heart not a tissue

[little tulip]

i saw dog with kidney stone once size of irish spring soap bar

[warm vortex]

My water is orange and looks like it has chunks

[little tulip]

actually impressive

[warm vortex]

Is chunky water good for you?

[spice spire]

All heart is made of tissue silly

[balmy condor]

a monster a day keeps the kidney stones away

[thorn thorn]

Its ice

[thorn thorn]

[warm vortex]

Really? The chunks are like

Super soft and hairy

[dreamy rover]

idk to be fair i was experiencing a few moments of chest pain

but im good now

[little tulip]

golden words for invites to key are sup an hey

[warm vortex]

Nono

Insult everyone the second you get in

I give up

[dreamy rover]

"o/"

classic move

[severe sparrow]

I downed a quad shot in one go right before getting on the bus once

[little tulip]

[severe sparrow]

Felt like i was ascending to the beyond

But also like i was gonna puke

10/10 would do again

[warm vortex]

-->wake up
-->Go downstairs to eat like 200g of flour
-->sleep
-->wake up feeling funny

[thorn thorn]

Mold

[little tulip]

ye like years ago no one carried water flask it was just disposable poland spring bottles

chug was the same but game was weaker

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-drinking-water-bottle-cat-gif-25382084

drink water

[warm vortex]

acc tbh

[haughty flicker]

bring it back

[warm vortex]

Idk if that has anythng bad so ill delete that

No

[balmy condor]

I'll let you know in a second

[warm vortex]

Ok cheers bb

Have this instead

Posted htis 5 times already

But idc

Can watch this while you wait for the boobies

[balmy condor]

it only has 81 frames

[warm vortex]

Ah god damn it

[balmy condor]

(the gif lasts 65 seconds total)

[thorn thorn]

I coulda swore I got a ping from here but its gone

[warm vortex]

Why is everything a lie

[warm vortex]

It was a gif that was just

[thorn thorn]

Do you have cameras for eyes

[warm vortex]

"boobs in 1 hour"

and it was a video of a clock

Hold on

[warm vortex]

Wait

[balmy condor]

that's the gif

[warm vortex]

Oh lmao

I thought it was a diffrent one that just went all the way to the end XD

Like to 0

[balmy condor]

no

I just sped it up 1500%

[warm vortex]

But yea, i mean i think it's just there to see who would actually wait Xd

[balmy condor]

I wonder how fast I can go

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-me-up-big-boobs-gif-27267448

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[thorn thorn]

[unborn wharf]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[warm vortex]

I love this

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-goes-insane-whose-toes-are-those-monkey-glitch-gif-27073059

[warm vortex]

That's a wierd looking cat

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-cat-burger-eat-funny-gif-3517609115164313112

[warm vortex]

I might have just fucked up my computer

I misclicked a file

Idk what type it was

but it's just called "ham"

[spice spire]

I love big boobs (the cat)

[molten crow]

are we running standard hybrid build for 10s?

[warm vortex]

Guys

Also just run w/e you prefer when it's only a 10

If you go high just run hybrid tho

[little tulip]

sorry but im playing rogue goalie

[warm vortex]

But did you guys know in skyrim if you sell multiple items at once, you gain the same amount of speech xp as if you sold 1

I just leant that

And my entire world just shattered

[dapper halo]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-happy-monday-good-morning-happy-monday-morning-mondays-gif-5553444776281017562

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[haughty flicker]

i love hodd toward

[little tulip]

even if rogue sits on the rik fella there are better classes that provide more damage

[warm vortex]

He look like the sort of guy that has garrote as his highest DPS output in hybrid build

[little tulip]

roll sub

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-todd-howard-watch-it-what-did-you-just-say-what-did-you-say-to-me-gif-22673491

[warm vortex]

Yea todderson howard

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-chess-club-todd-howard-elder-scrolls-oblivion-gif-27500592

[royal lantern]

we all do

Godd howard

[balmy condor]

surely this is going to hit a corner eventually right, you wouldn't just post that and have it be unresolved

[little tulip]

im happy the work my fury warrior frien put in is showing up on the meters

[rain coral]

anyone can help me with some weakaura issues?

[normal mist]

Lisonna is usually the GO TO with those kind of issues

[rain coral]

no i have found one, that i like just some icons work somehow weird

[balmy condor]

whats that mean specifically

[normal mist]

It almost looked like a letter soup to me

[warm vortex]

Omg royal hi

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-yo-hi-bonjour-hello-gif-16110993206874302841

[warm vortex]

Is flame vent off GCD just curious

How’s it going mister monster hunter

[normal mist]

Waiting for the first Title update aka patch for more content, in a few days

other than that, i've been devouring anime

[warm vortex]

Hello my name is anime

[manic sphinx]

my rl asking me to swap. so i have to learn sub this weekend, else i get benched to continue reverb prog on monday (which is no big deal, we got plenty of ppl queuing up :/ )

[normal mist]

You're too young

[manic sphinx]

i finding sub cds really confusing tho, hard to get the muscle memory in

[warm vortex]

Bro you say that like I’m 12

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/xinging-xinging-monkey-monkey-monkey-speech-xinging-speech-bubble-gif-17417339258175886022

[coral ibex]

663 BM hunter doing SEASON 1 DAMAGE bro

PLEASE

[normal mist]

I'm 30

[coral ibex]

VEN EXPLAIN THIS

[normal mist]

you're 12

[warm vortex]

Shut the fuck up

Don’t expose me like this

Show breakdown

[coral ibex]

662* SORRY

[warm vortex]

Also I have a muscle knot in the wierdesr place ever

It’s on my like pelvis

[winged sun]

@midnight mist @hard river zac

someone's calling ur name

tompelvis alert

detected

[coral ibex]

i just want to go fast

[hard river]

[warm vortex]

I don’t think he was pressing his buttons

[winged sun]

@runic hinge overall police show up

[warm vortex]

Like he might have just taken 2 sec between all his buttons

Cause his dps breakdown looks like that

[winged sun]

15 priory

we had 2 wipes

and had to kill 1 mob for 2 mins

cuz all other dpsers were dead walking from mars

[runic hinge]

Please save your detail posting for the outlaw thread. Thank you for your cooperation at this time

[coral ibex]

im exposing a hunter this isn't about my overall

[runic hinge]

Oh okay

Real

[winged sun]

im exposing a hunter this isn't about my overall

[coral ibex]

forgive this trangression

[dawn kelp]

what build hybrid or bleed gang

[warm vortex]

What was the instant ❌ for lmao

[winged sun]

hybrid cuh

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[coral ibex]

posting overall is cringe

[winged sun]

no cap no cap

[runic hinge]

Based

[winged sun]

cringe as hell holy shit

[royal lantern]

we just wiped in a +14 darkflame because nobody did interupts on king

[warm vortex]

Tbf my dps is shit on BM too

[warm vortex]

That everyone includes you

Get better at the game dragon

[royal lantern]

on king

the fight

with 1 interupt

[winged sun]

all sin rogues have fried takes

no cap

wtb 1 sane sin rogue

[royal lantern]

everytime i had to run out, nobody did it and we got feared

[winged sun]

impossible edition

[midnight mist]

i do more as outlaw

you should be ashamed

[winged sun]

no !

[midnight mist]

i litteraly do

[coral ibex]

bleed build goes hard

[midnight mist]

[winged sun]

outlaw bad go away zac

[warm vortex]

Sounds like a you problem

[winged sun]

no one pinged you here zac

[thorn thorn]

Outlaw is for people on fent

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/sing-it's-time-to-play-the-game-gif-7562505771395435875

[winged sun]

based

[severe meadow]

Glad you're excited for it....

[runic hinge]

Outlaw is good you should try it

[runic hinge]

@spice spire

[warm vortex]

I assume he is the agent

[normal mist]

There's nothing else for me to do currently, since i'm not a speedrunner

i already 100%ed it + all endemic

[warm vortex]

You could come back to woowwwwww

:D

[severe meadow]

Lagiacrus

[warm vortex]

New goblin raid

Kinda funnnnn

Could do keys with me we could be a hunter rogue team !!!!

[normal mist]

I didnt play before world, so my MH experience is purely 1000 hours world + 250 rise (and whatever hours i've put in wilds already)

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-nodding-disbelief-friends-ross-geller-gif-16596956776751194090

[haughty flicker]

only 1250 hours of monster hunter what a casual

[severe meadow]

Underwater fight, was cringe

But idk if it will be in Wilds

[warm vortex]

Also eyyyy just noticed the details name

[normal mist]

I doubt we'll have underwater there

[spice spire]

[warm vortex]

:( it would be fun

[warm vortex]

Oh hi fbi agent

[normal mist]

You're fun

[severe meadow]

Super hyped they're adding the one goober you fight during story

As a hunt

[warm vortex]

Yea!

I’m fun

[unborn wharf]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[normal mist]

Zoh, yeah! hopefuly it's armor doesnt suck

[warm vortex]

Fun is actually my middle name

[severe meadow]

It better look cool or Imma crash out

They did Rey wrong

[normal mist]

didn't you see the armor already? has been showcased

[severe meadow]

I didn't actually, only have been told stuff so far

[severe meadow]

Okay hold on

[normal mist]

Armor "activates" in combat, wings pop out, nothing really special

[severe meadow]

I fuck with it

[normal mist]

Aight sorry assassination chat, turned this into a MH channel for 2 minutes

[static glacier]

I also activate in combat 🙂

[unborn wharf]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[unborn wharf]

what are teh shiv rules again in aoe?

[normal mist]

wink wink or no wink?

SO WAKE ME UP WHEN IT'S ALL OVER

WHEN I'M WISER AND I'M OLDER

[runic hinge]

It’s ot 2.0 anyways

[normal mist]

AVICII was such a goat

[warm vortex]

This is as far as my MH knowledge goes

[normal mist]

Probably took him the whole class to do it

My character is currently cosplaying Esil, from solo leveling

[unborn wharf]

in aoe how important is it if at all to envenom before deathmarking? are you guys just sending the deathmark after crimon tempest and caustic is up?

assuming targets will generally live and you dont need to accelerate that much

[coral stump]

worse meme than the one where the kid shows his teacher a pic of a goblin

[subtle tundra]

cringe leveling

[coral ibex]

envenom before cds is a gain for your cds

[runic hinge]

If you don’t have kb cause you’re running bleed it’s whatever

But if you do have kb is pretty necessary

[gritty laurel]

first, what Tony said. second, you're gonna be using envenom anyway and should be using DM on something that'll live for the full duration of KB, so it's pretty important to maximize

[runic hinge]

I’m trying to be better about not using ambush on every opener and so you’re gonna wanna consume darkest night before cds anyways

Unless you’re noob like me and open with ambush on every pack

[haughty flicker]

hey are you me

[runic hinge]

Yes

[unborn wharf]

sounds good guys ty

[runic hinge]

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[warm vortex]

Wait show

Goblin lady’s with the goblin pics

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/penis-goblin-stealing-penis-goblin-gif-26157191

[coral stump]

dude why does this always happen

i reference a meme

and then i cannot find it

yeah i legit can’t find it

[coral ibex]

what is the meme

[coral stump]

it’s this guy in college maybe abt to show his professor a picture of a goblin n then he gets kicked out

[warm vortex]

That was me holy shit

I was the goblin

[fossil eagle]

switching back to sin and wondering if there is a minimum haste point i should be at in ST, was thinking like 8%

[coral stump]

cute

[coral ibex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[coral stump]

unfortunately that’s smth you live ur whole life with

[warm vortex]

Found @spice spire

Holy shit he changed his nickname

[fossil eagle]

thanks didnt know that I could use that command to answer my question

[warm vortex]

Tricky do you know what the nickname is referring to lmao

[warm vortex]

This

[coral stump]

yeah i’ve made love to my fbi agent too

only way i got off the terrorist watch list

[warm vortex]

It’s not blackmail if you enjoy it

[coral stump]

that’s coercion not blackmail

[spice spire]

About to coerce my balls on your chin

Sorry

[coral stump]

have at it

[spice spire]

The voices won

[coral stump]

it’s ok it was funny

the voices r great

[warm vortex]

Voices are good
Voices are great

Voices are saying to masterbate

[coral stump]

everyone should listen to their voices

[winged sun]

@spice spire hello dear friend

is this trinket undersimming because of lingering?

or?

[spice spire]

Let me check before I leave

One sec

[winged sun]

also whispyr says a "20% buff"

is lingering a 20% or 30

oh

he means

20% buff to the trinket that we had

right

kk take ur time cuh

[spice spire]

use_item,name=junkmaestros_mega_magnet,if=cooldown.deathmark.remains>=30&!dot.deathmark.ticking&(!talent.deathstalkers_mark|buff.lingering_darkness.remains<10)|fight_remains<=10

Is what it has on APL

So it’s accounting for it

It’s not under simming

Ok we go home now glhf homies

[iron vapor]

Going back in time a bit, how the F are you getting nearly 5mil overall?! Like, I can maintain that for a burst window on cleave dummies in dornogal without any mechanics to worry about.

[cinder steppe]

hi is it possible that siphoning stiletto is simming the most as my next craft?

wasnt it shit before?

[iron vapor]

What're you doing that I'm not, what's the secret sauce? Or is it just being super diligent about keeping everything up and blasting?

[runic hinge]

He’s got a good tank

[runic hinge]

Droptimizer doesn’t care about how many embellishments you have

[vast shuttle]

hey guys what should i do for getting gear for mythic + go dwelves or heroic dungeons? iam not so familiar with war within barely played

[cinder steppe]

ohhh thats why then

[iron vapor]

gotta be more to it than that surely? If I can't maintain those numbers on dummies I must be doing something wrong

granted I'm probably a bit lower on iLVL, but still!

[vocal basalt]

Can anyone run a 1 minute parse on the 5 cleave dummies in Dornogal and provide the results?

[sand sigil]

14.7m dps

[vocal basalt]

Whats your ilvl?

[royal lantern]

the pulls make up 80% of your dmg mate lol

[copper pine]

i saw casualaddict is running m+ without double vanish. Is it worth to play without double vanish in m+ ? Is the only one i see in the top 20 without double vanish

[jolly lion]

Any idea why i won't get my 3rd craft this week guys?

[uneven plume]

No double vanish is more ST

[winged sun]

Press buttons, learn what button does more dmg

[copper pine]

but less aoe/overall or ?

[vast shuttle]

hey guys what should i do for getting gear for mythic + go dwelves or heroic dungeons? iam not so familiar with war within barely played

[uneven plume]

Fuck you need more aoe on sin for

[brazen sluice]

guildmate bye bye to sub? XD or did u recraft ur shit to crit/mastrey?

[uneven plume]

XD

[blazing pumice]

delves if you can finish them on high enough level

[uneven plume]

You need ST not more aoe

[blazing pumice]

and have keys

[uneven plume]

But yes, less aoe

[vocal basalt]

Ideally you should be doing everything you can. Delves/Mythic 0s/ LFR Raiding

[winged sun]

Why delves

[iron vapor]

very helpful, thankyou

[winged sun]

Sin is not that simple to play in m+

Current hardest spec probably out of the 3

[winged sun]

I play all specs

[runic hinge]

Hero track in vault hero track from map. Champ gear from chest

If you have zero gear it’s not a bad start

[vocal basalt]

Devles are least impact to sanity

[uneven plume]

Sin the only spec where you can lose your most important hero talent randomly

And have no damage for a good period of time

[winged sun]

Anything good in there I feel like nothing is useful or

[blazing pumice]

heroic dungeons drop adventurer gear

[brazen sluice]

me too but im asking about ur crafted gear coz i saw ur neck been crit/mastrey how do u maintain gear for all 3 specs for m+ ? do u sim Dslice or is it a gifted talent to know which stats

[blazing pumice]

waste of time

[runic hinge]

Don’t copy casual he is in a coordinated group doing big gamer stuff

[uneven plume]

Casual not always on coordinated group

[vocal basalt]

There's two trinkets that are pretty good in delves

[winged sun]

I recraft whenever I swap specs I spend a lot of gold

[runic hinge]

Couple hero trinkets are pretty good

[uneven plume]

He still plays forced induction

[winged sun]

Forced induction is cooked in some keys

[brazen sluice]

holy moly GL kazzak elon musk ❤️

[uneven plume]

Because sin ST worse than s1 enh dps

[runic hinge]

+2% st for minus 9% aoe

[uneven plume]

Without pi

Sin doesn’t need aoe danage

We have crackhead aoe damage

And we always on group with dk boomy

[winged sun]

i think

for now

[blazing pumice]

you know the point of m+ is aoe damage

[brazen sluice]

100 % agree

[uneven plume]

No it’s not

It’s prio damage

[blazing pumice]

yes it is

[brazen sluice]

the moment where u afk in st is ridiculous

[winged sun]

sin does the highest overall dps apart from unholy dk in some dungeons

[runic hinge]

Yeah let’s all do what the best rogue is doing in keys most of us won’t touch lmao

Streamer meta so cringe

[winged sun]

i think sin can do more thn udk in some keys

[winged sun]

everything u do in high keys is the same as low keys

[spice surge]

Sin doing 12M every pull regardless of CDs

[winged sun]

u may just garrote less in low keys

[brazen sluice]

in m+ yeh but how about raid , i feel like sin is competing against sub in raid build not sure

[spice surge]

I dont think so, just let demise do its thing

[winged sun]

idk about raid didnt try sin yet

[brazen sluice]

yeh thats what i like about sin

[winged sun]

will try when we raid next time

[winged sun]

yea i guess they're all just the same xd

[brazen sluice]

i did a sim its like 20-30k dps diff having bis gear ( eye + ring from last boss + hoc )

[copper pine]

if you have a tank who always chainpulls double vanish should be by far the better option i guess

[winged sun]

wait

i didnt try simming HoC for sin

is it bis

is it stronger than priory trinket

or

[spice surge]

The same roughly

[brazen sluice]

for me it simmed higher than prio

but idk if sim use it only with DMs

[spice surge]

Yes you use it with DM

[brazen sluice]

yeh i do use it with dm but im asking about the apl does it only use it with dms?

[winged sun]

while i agree some shit is abit sus with streamer bullshit but when it comes to rogue

literally nothing is "streamer meta"

for now atleast

[runic hinge]

Yes

[spice surge]

Yes

[runic hinge]

Why would the apl send a naked on use trinket on sin

That’s crazy

[brazen sluice]

aha kk

[brazen sluice]

idk im just asking if , an idea of using it with naked kb pumped to my head so

[runic hinge]

But it’s a 1:30 trinket. What kb would it use with it naked?

[brazen sluice]

the 3mins use

[winged sun]

i can see why a HoC can be used naked but a human cant guess that correctly at all

its probably 10 times rarer than sending a naked kingsbane when dm is coming up in 30 sec or someshit

[runic hinge]

Sending it with no cd to send with shitty no dm kb is

[brazen sluice]

its not wrong to ask

[balmy condor]

what

did I fuck up

what trinket

[winged sun]

nothing fucked up

[runic hinge]

No

[winged sun]

go back to bed it was a microwaved question

[copper pine]

when do you use the priory trinket ? Always with DM ? So you can macro it ?

[balmy condor]

yeah

house of cards and priory macro'd to dm

[copper pine]

kk ty

and another question big discussion with my mates 😄 Is it worth to play a pull till the end to give a restealth before the next pull or always chainpulling ?

for time in m+

[balmy condor]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[copper pine]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[brazen sluice]

Dslice is always a 6mins sim right? so thats why eye is simming higher? or how do i calc the correct value of passive trinkets for m+?

[balmy condor]

dslice is always 6min yes. Eye drops stacks between packs in m+, while dungeonslice generally will stay in combat and chain a fair amount

so if you're in a chain heavy group it can be okay

but otherwise you drop combat and it loses its stacks and then your trinket is dead

[brazen sluice]

does mdt sim gives me a more passive trinket accurate value? or is it a battle between eye and pacemaker only? coz i got both

[balmy condor]

mdt is probably less accurate im ngl

[brazen sluice]

xD oh rly

then pacemaker its

[balmy condor]

I mean they both have their issues

dungeonslice's issue is that it's not a real dungeon but instead just a bunch of different situations stitched together

it's basically like a chicken nugget

[royal lantern]

i like chicken nuggets

[brazen sluice]

LOL

[royal lantern]

even more when its dino nuggets

[balmy condor]

there's a lot of stuff in there and it kinda blends together but it's still meat

[royal lantern]

[winged sun]

mdt sims are microwaved

[brazen sluice]

well thats a very detailed answer ty

[balmy condor]

mdt is the exact opposite, it's precisely this one route in this one dungeon with no variance and no changes or alterations or anything

so with the meat analogy mdt would be like a very expensive rare cut of a himalayan mountain goat that's halal and kosher at the same time and if you overcook it even a little bit the sherpa that raised the goat will show up at your house and slap you

great tool if you're a fan of halal himalayan mountain goat meat

but if you're just trying to figure out what to eat for a snack

maybe not the move

I also think I'm maybe just hungry

[runic hinge]

Same

[brazen sluice]

i was about to say u should go eat at this point and ty

[balmy condor]

point is, dslice very generalized, very varied, lots of shit mixed into one pot and it spits out whatever

mdt very very specific and it will hallucinate random garbage because it's got no variation at all

[keen spruce]

U can Himalayan mountain gargle my balls

[runic hinge]

[cinder geode]

Why don't we run sanguine blades anymore? on m+ or st

[balmy condor]

We don’t run it in single target cause it’s 0 dps

We do run it in m+

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/girafficonical-onion-crab-gif-26865858

[fresh kelp]

mdt sims are also scuffed because the sim does not simulate boss mechanics or damage amps and such things. for example, if you tried to sim everbloom back in df s3, it would assume you were fighting the last boss natty for the entire hp bar (instead of having the 300% dmg amp), and would optimize everything for pure single target since it was thinking it would be like a 15 minute fight

if you tried to mdt sim DFC this season, it would probably simulate fighting the darkness all the way down to 0% hp for example

[winged sun]

ty friend stay safe

[hollow lily]

yo, im looking for assa rogue thats progressing mugzee and streams or will post kill vid soon, any knowers?

[runic hinge]

Maybe guy

[hollow lily]

hmm i dont think i ever saw him stream

[nimble vector]

Depends what you’re looking for but if you look at my vods there’s a mugzee rekill from Tuesday

[hollow lily]

found it, thanks! looking for positioning and seeing how to make spatter work

[unreal tide]

stand on boss ass, done

[nimble vector]

Spatter isn’t that relevant people have too much damage for jails anyway

[unreal tide]

and if tank moves boss too far or people drop the cages too far not a ton you can do to correct for it spatter wise

[balmy condor]

if you're seeing how to make spatter work, you don't

it's 12 yards from the center of the boss

and that's it

you have no control over where the boss is in relation to the adds

[hollow lily]

thanks for the tips, im looking for info/vods beacuse im propably going to have to decide what class to play on it

[balmy condor]

either the boss is in the right spot or it's not

[nimble vector]

For what it’s worth, the only thing relevant on the fight is healing and execute damage, and assa is good at execute 🙂

[balmy condor]

+17% good at execute

big number

[primal carbon]

so how much crit do we want as assa before we go maxing out mastery ? 😄

[balmy condor]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[hollow lily]

ye but its propably going to be between warr/rogue for me, so hard decision for execute i think? but since im bad at arms im leaning towards assa

[primal carbon]

ty

[balmy condor]

I'm pretty sure assa does more damage during execute than warriors

not by much

but after the buffs this week I think it's gotta be slightly ahead

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2koRdtn3MyqWTgnZRaAzbx man difference between max hero pacemaker and max champ hoc is 500~ dps :(

[balmy condor]

equal trinkets that do the same thing at the same amounts are equal

more news at 10

[humble verge]

oh yea

they are actually equal at those ilvls

but still

[balmy condor]

also you meant to say signet and hoc

not pacemaker and hoc

[humble verge]

oh yea

signet yea

[balmy condor]

yeh

[humble verge]

you know

its me whisp

what you expect

[balmy condor]

nothing less

love you

[humble verge]

and im yet to try to do anything here

like

i already have a socket in my belt